1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So here is my take around the Digital Services 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Minister due to Collins's plan to introduce digital driving licenses 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: or driver licenses by the end of the year. Okay, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: so on its own, you wonder what's the point of 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: moving in this direction when we have perfectly good driver's 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: licenses in our back pocket. But it's not really about 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: the driver's license. It's about creating an app like New 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: South Wales has, which allows people to do a whole 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of government related transactions simply and easily from their phones. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Things like your car registration, are you waff paying road 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: user charges and road tolls, both of which we might 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: be doing a little bit more of in the future. 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Inland revenue and tax payments can be dealt with through it, 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: dealing with superannuation and benefit payments, even maybe paying parking tickets. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: You can do the lot right, which makes sense. We 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: deal with so much of this online already, why not 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: put it all in one place. So New South Wales 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: they rolled out the digital driver's License in two thousand 19 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: and nineteen and today over eighty percent of drivers use 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: their driver's license via the app. It is good to 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: see though that the Minister acknowledges. We need to have 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: choice around this. A digital license system can't exclude those 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: who don't have access to the necessary technology or simply 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: prefer to keep things offline. Groups like the elderly, rural 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: communities and areas with poor connectivity and people's low incomes 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: could be disproportionately affected by a full switch to digital, 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: So it's good Keywis will be given the choice to 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: go digital or stay with the plastic. Digital licenses may 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: be a modern, forward thinking move, but they do come 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: with privacy risks, and we're just sort of talking about this. 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: You can put all the security in place you like, 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: but no system is entirely immune to cyber attacks or 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: accidental or intentional leaks. As I mentioned, much of what 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: we do is already online, and I appreciate the IDs 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: will be decentralized and no data will be stored next 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: personal information, But as that use of the app increases, 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: will that remain the case. I am probably sounding a 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: little paranoid, but after having almost fallen for a sophisticated 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: scam which used hacked information, I'm not relaxed about the 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: amount of data I have online. So if we're going 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: to do this we've got to do it well. This 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: can't be rushed, and it must be the best version 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: it can be from the start. So I'm a person 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: who never buys the first version of a piece of tech. 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I always give a provided time to sort out the kinks. 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I like to buy the second or third generation version. 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: And I feel the same about the digital driver's licenses. 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: I can understand how practical they could be. I can 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: appreciate how bringing everything together could make dealing with numerous 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: government departments easier. It will even make creating fake licenses 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: harder for the kids to get into R and V. 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: So I'm well up for it as long as I 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: can make the move when I'm ready for more from 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live to news Talks 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: it be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: on iheartrate yo