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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: How do the wed how be heal? What in the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand You were? Jack tam Over a decade of

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Speaker 2: experience under their belts has seen Australian pop dance royalty

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Speaker 2: the Jungle Giants grow from simple lovers of music to

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Speaker 2: fully fledged artists on the world stage. They had our

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Speaker 2: Bananas year last year, a massive year playing shows, headlining

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Speaker 2: festivals from Hemisphere to Hemisphere, and now they are bringing

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Speaker 2: their positive energy to New Zealand with shows in Wellington

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Speaker 2: and Auckland. Jungle Giants frontman Sam Hales as with us

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Speaker 2: this morning, held.

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Speaker 3: A good morning. How are you man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very very good, Thank you man? You knowed the kyoda?

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Speaker 2: Well done. They've spoken like a man who knows his audience.

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Speaker 2: But how how do you find that your reception here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand? How do you distinguish it from being

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Speaker 2: at home?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's really nice and every time we come

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Speaker 4: to New Zealand we've just been saying people coming at

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Speaker 4: every show, which is actually really lovely.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously in New Zealand people love music. You

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Speaker 4: can tell like culture. It's really awesome. I've got a

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Speaker 4: couple of Manti friends that live for their music, and

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Speaker 4: you can really tell when you go people like remember

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Speaker 4: every lyric, everyone's always dancing. It's always a great reception.

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Speaker 4: So for us, every time we get to New Zealand

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Speaker 4: is an actual huge pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have had a pretty significant eighteen months or so.

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Speaker 2: Those fans have been waiting a wee while for new

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Speaker 2: music and you have just released something which I know

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Speaker 2: everyone has delighted about. But how are you physically because

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Speaker 2: you had a pretty rough experience on a jet ski right?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, well that was like was that

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Speaker 4: like a year and a bit ago now? But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was shooting a film clip with some friends for

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Speaker 4: a Bank of confidence man, and my job for the

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Speaker 4: day was to ride a jet ski wearing like a

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Speaker 4: hat and like overalls and boots, which turned out to

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Speaker 4: be the dumbest idea of all time. And yeah, all

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Speaker 4: I had to do for the morning was just circling

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Speaker 4: yacht at high speed.

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Speaker 2: And say that, you say all I had to do?

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Speaker 2: All I did was circle a yacht at high speed?

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Speaker 2: Am I an experienced ski rider?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: What could possibly get wrong?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and like it was like it was the

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Speaker 4: best morning of my It was like sunrise circling yacht

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Speaker 4: high speed. I also loved to go far as jet

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Speaker 4: ski is really fun. It was like the second time

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Speaker 4: I've ever been on a jet ski as well. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I came off with like high speed because I was

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Speaker 4: just loving the speed of this thing. Anyway, boots are

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Speaker 4: for anyone out there. Boots are the worst idea on

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Speaker 4: a jet ski. I didn't know that, but it is.

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Speaker 3: So Yeah. Ended up having to get.

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Speaker 4: A full reconstruction of my my ankle and I was

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Speaker 4: I was were filming at the Gold Coast, so I

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Speaker 3: It was it was hectic, but I did all my rehab.

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Speaker 4: I did everything I need to do, and now that

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Speaker 3: It's like titanium leg.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's a really full on experience. And I

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Speaker 2: did you like, was that kind of like from a

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Speaker 4: It definitely was like I was about to go on tour,

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Speaker 4: so that was a that was kind of hard to stomach,

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Speaker 4: creatively pretty stifling, like you know, when kind of bedridden,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to feel inspired. But I luckily I was

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Speaker 4: really nice, Like the band are so lovely, and a

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Speaker 3: They got all my microphones everything that I like to

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Speaker 4: Just dropped off everything. So I said, I'm kind of

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Speaker 4: and also just I gotta I got an Xbox because.

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Speaker 3: At a time like that, it's like all you can do,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was at my mum's place in a

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Speaker 4: while and she she loved watching it because it's just

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Speaker 4: like beautiful horses.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was like a lot of just like

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Speaker 4: making music as most they could, and they're just gaming,

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Speaker 2: Obviously it worked out. If your ankle now is stronger

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Speaker 2: than the other one, then the knit result of this

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Speaker 2: experience is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to talk to us a little bit about about

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Speaker 2: the relationship you and your bandmates have, because it seems

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Speaker 2: to me a pretty real thing to meet so young

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Speaker 2: and then to endure as you guys have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel really lucky.

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Speaker 4: Like we all met at school, I was the great

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Speaker 4: above all the other guys, and when I left school,

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Speaker 4: I was going to start a band, but I couldn't

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Speaker 3: But I can. I met the guys before. They're all

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Speaker 3: hit them up. And we were fifteen and sixteen at

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Speaker 4: And we realized the other day that we've been in

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Speaker 4: a band from like half of our lives, which is awesome,

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Speaker 4: and we're as close as ever, like we're all best friends.

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Speaker 4: Jasira's like been my best friend for like fifteen years now,

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Speaker 4: and I feel really lucky because no matter what happens

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Speaker 4: it's quite lovely. And no matter what happens, we know

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Speaker 4: how to support each other. We don't how to press

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Speaker 3: And I think it really affect the music as well.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's so supportive and like we see eye to eye,

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. Tell me how explain to us a bit

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's just nice to know that it's

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Speaker 4: And what I kind of naturally discovered was it just

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Speaker 3: They were like, just do what feels good. We got

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Speaker 4: And for me, knowing that support network is there makes

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Speaker 2: So that's really interesting because I can imagine that there

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Speaker 2: because you know, in some respects, having some tension is

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Speaker 2: That that's must be liberating.

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Speaker 3: It is great and.

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Speaker 4: Like, and don't get me wrong, like we do, you know,

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Speaker 4: we do offer insights and constructive criticism to each other.

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Speaker 4: Like I remember when when I made heavy Hearted, which

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Speaker 4: I remember Andrew, my bass player, was like, dude, like,

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Speaker 3: I know. Like, yeah, I think we're doing dance music now.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I think that's the best

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's honest, which is what people want. It's authentic. Right,

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're all the exact same people. I

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Speaker 4: will say, maybe Keeling, our drummer. Yeah, he's a very

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Speaker 4: his pilot's license. Yeah, he's like he's just like the

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Speaker 4: He likes bows and arrows, he loves going on like

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Speaker 2: He should probably have been the one on the jit

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Speaker 3: He would have been fine too.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you guys said that writing residency in LA recently, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How was that?

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Speaker 3: It was great? Yeah? Yeah, I spent like, I think

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Speaker 4: It kind of went in with just the plan to

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Speaker 4: really fun. They spent a lot of time writing with

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Speaker 4: Chroma Sparks over there What's so not as well, and

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Speaker 4: And then experimental part of the record was trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out, you know, maybe there'll be some collabse I'll

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Speaker 4: figure it out as they go and actually hold my hand.

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Speaker 3: The new single was a product of that. Chip. There's

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Speaker 4: Named Running Touch from Oz and he comes from more

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Speaker 4: So that was like one of the first kind of

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Speaker 3: It's like a successful trip, I think.

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Speaker 2: And if you compare that to the safety of creating

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Speaker 4: It's you know, it can generally feel the same depending

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Speaker 4: I think for me, it's like it's like a date,

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Speaker 4: And again, it's just the same thing as like, bully

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. Still there's no kind of barriers to

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Speaker 3: So expect that. Bring your Sonnies, I guess.

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Speaker 2: fan tested. Well, we're delighted to have you here. I'm

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Speaker 2: really pleased that you are back releasing music. I'm really

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Speaker 2: pleased that you're that your ankle is better, and we

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Speaker 2: can't wait to have Jungle Giants here very soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Ben.

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Speaker 2: There to Sam Hales from Jungle Giants. They're playing Auckland

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