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Speaker 1: The number of gang members charged in the forty one

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Speaker 1: hours since the Gang Patch Band came into effect is

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Speaker 1: now sitting at around about twelve. Among them the head

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Speaker 1: Hunter's president in west Auckland, who was arrested in his

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Speaker 1: pjas during an early morning raid this morning. Assistant Police

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Paul Basham's with me. Now, Hey, Paul, Hi, how

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Speaker 1: are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Paul? Do you reckon that the gangs were expecting you

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Speaker 1: guys to go this hard and actually track them down

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Speaker 1: to their houses to get the patches off them.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've said right from the very beginning through this

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Speaker 2: period of engagement that we would be consistent in the

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Speaker 2: way that we took in Frost connection time if we

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Speaker 2: could deal with it at the time, was subsequently when

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Speaker 2: it was safe to do so, well, when we were

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Speaker 2: following up reports of breaches of the Gangs Act. So

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Speaker 2: for us, this is us following through on exactly what

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Speaker 2: we said we were doing, sending a clear message that

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Speaker 2: the people are going to break the law or breach

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Speaker 2: the Gang Act in the way that he has secured

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Speaker 2: up to this point. We will follow through that they

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Speaker 2: can expect us to take enforced conection.

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Speaker 1: How Are you guys aware that they are doing this,

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Speaker 1: are you actually seeing are your officers seeing them, or

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Speaker 1: are you getting tips from the public.

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Speaker 2: It's a variety of things. It's a variety in the

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Speaker 2: way that all sorts of crime and incidents are reported

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Speaker 2: to us through sort of common channels. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: not just one thing. It comes in different ways. But

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Speaker 2: we've said that when this sort of stuff comes through,

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Speaker 2: we'll follow up as quickly as we can. In today's search.

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Speaker 2: Once is a case in point where something was reported

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Speaker 2: in the early hours after the law came into effect.

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Speaker 2: We were able to make those inquiries, sort of draw

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Speaker 2: those dots together, as it were, and get out and

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Speaker 2: do those once this morning.

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Speaker 1: Do you want us to do that? If we're driving

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Speaker 1: down State Highway one and we see a gang member

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Speaker 1: or a bunch of gang members being clowns about it,

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Speaker 1: do you want us to call it in?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? You know, it's like they're breaking the law, and

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Speaker 2: we would expect people to make good judgments, just like

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Speaker 2: they would if they observed any other breach of the law.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've been also sort of sending messages around

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Speaker 2: certainly if they are frightened or they're seeing something that's

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Speaker 2: kind of violent to arrest the safety they will start

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Speaker 2: a triple one. If it's something that's historical, they can

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Speaker 2: call one oh five or reported online. So all of

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Speaker 2: those normal channels and all those normal judgments that people

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Speaker 2: use all the time, and they make common sense decisions

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Speaker 2: around what they want to report to us.

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Speaker 1: How many of these cases and how many of these

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Speaker 1: cases have you found when you go around to the

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Speaker 1: house to get the patch, gangs, guns and other stolen

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Speaker 1: stuff and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Well it's literally in terms of you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: going down on the search WAPs. Most of the enforcement

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Speaker 2: action that we've taken to date, there's occurred in a

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Speaker 2: public place where we've been able to move to an arrest,

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Speaker 2: and we've seize the patch in a public place subsequent

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Speaker 2: to bet arrest. But you know, it's not uncommon for

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Speaker 2: us to go through the front door or the door

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Speaker 2: getting associated address for one reason and stumble across, you know,

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Speaker 2: or detect criminal offending on other grounds. So that's always possible,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think this is partly why members

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Speaker 2: are encouraged to make good choices. One because want them

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Speaker 2: to obey the law, but the particularly have an interest

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Speaker 2: in doing that because they don't really want the heat

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Speaker 2: and other parts of their criminal enterprise.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Hey, Paul, thanks very much, appreciate it. That's

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Speaker 1: Paul Basham, Assistant Police Commissioner.

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