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Speaker 3: It'd be well, good morning, j you welcome to your

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Speaker 3: Friday of the first full week of the year. You

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Speaker 3: made it. Coming up on the program today. Now, some

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Speaker 3: big Chinese warships are loitering off the coasts of Sydney.

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Speaker 3: What's China up to? We've got a foreign policy expert

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Speaker 3: in five. What's this weekend's big sporting event? Clue it's

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Speaker 3: not Rugby. How much had building costs gone up over

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Speaker 3: the past four years? Actually the number is described as staggering.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to a management expert who monitors the increasing

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Speaker 3: bills and child poverty rates in this country continue to

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Speaker 3: be high. We'll talk to an aid agency at the

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Speaker 3: frontline of poverty in New Zealand. We'll talk to correspondence

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Speaker 3: from right around New Zealand and around the world, and

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Speaker 3: we'll have news as it breaks and you can have

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Speaker 3: and the number is ninety two ninety two and it's

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Speaker 3: seven after five.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 3: So Friday, the twenty first of February, the Trump Visus.

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Speaker 3: Zelensky rift continues. The US presidents double down on his comments,

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Speaker 3: calling President to Zelensky a dictator and saying Russia holds

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Speaker 3: the cards and peace negotiations because it has taken a

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Speaker 4: A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move faster. He's not

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Speaker 4: going to have a country left. Got to move Gota

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Speaker 4: wove fast because the war is going in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 4: In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the

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Speaker 4: war with Russia.

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Speaker 5: I do I think the Russians want to see the

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Speaker 5: war end, and I do, I really do. But I

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Speaker 5: think they have the cards a little bit, because you know,

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Speaker 5: they're they've taken a lot of territory, all right.

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Speaker 3: And meanwhile, the UK and Norway have reinforced their joint

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Speaker 3: defense against Russia. The countries say they're committing to enhancing

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Speaker 3: their critical undersea infrastructure. As Russia's aggression across Europe continues

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Speaker 3: to grow.

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Speaker 6: We are able to send the message to any one

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Speaker 6: who may intend to cause harm to our critical national

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Speaker 6: infrastructure that we will see you.

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Speaker 7: We've said, as two European nations that we will step

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Speaker 7: up further the support we give to Ukraine. Ukraine is

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Speaker 7: still fighting. We must keep them in the fight. We

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Speaker 7: must try and keep them strong.

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Speaker 3: And it's a very difficult day for Israel. Her mass

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Speaker 3: is returning the dead bodies of four hostages. The Israeli

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Speaker 3: Defense Force have confirmed coffins have been taken to the

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Speaker 3: National Institute of Forensic Medicine, where identification of the bodies

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Speaker 3: has already begun. And while there has not been any

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Speaker 3: formal identification as yet, they are thought to be Shiri Bibas,

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Speaker 3: her two young sons, and an eighty three year old

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Speaker 3: Odd Lifshitz, who was a peace activist and a journalist.

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Speaker 6: People here in Israel have already begun the mourning for them.

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Speaker 6: I mean this ranges from the youngest hostage, who was

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Speaker 6: nine months old at the time that he was taken,

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Speaker 3: And finally, kiss Gate, Spain's former football federation boss Luise

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Speaker 3: Rubialis has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing

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Speaker 3: player Jenny Homosso without her consent. He was acquitted a

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Speaker 3: coercion for allegedly trying to pressure her Mosso into saying

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Speaker 3: publicly that the kiss was consensual. Spain's High Court has

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Speaker 3: lost his career. It's ten after five.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early

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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property

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Speaker 3: So the Kumar case is a classic. We've seen it

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Speaker 3: before in these visa cases that go all the way

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Speaker 3: unenvious position. If he said no, Chris Pink, you're cold

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Speaker 3: and heartless man. If he says yes, he opens up

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Speaker 3: the door to many others because he said a precedent.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen year old Damon Kumar's case highlighted that anyone born

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Speaker 3: his parents were overstaying, which means even though he was

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Speaker 3: still a tragedy for the family. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: The precedent has now been set and the question is

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Speaker 3: how many other damons are out there? And our public

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Speaker 3: servants don't have a clue. Immigration in New Zealand says

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Speaker 3: immigrats in New Zealand has a lot to deal with

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Speaker 3: who's overstaying. The Kumars flew under the radar for nearly

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Speaker 3: surprised the minister. It only came to light when a journalist,

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Speaker 3: Michael Mora brought it up. We should have known this.

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Speaker 3: People wonder why so many people don't rate the public service. Hey,

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Speaker 3: rugby's back on tonight. The Chiefs are up against the

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Speaker 3: Crusaders at seven and live on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: good are the Chiefs? Tonight I will be happily slumped

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Speaker 3: a pino noir, and hopefully I'll stay awake until the

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Speaker 3: last whistle. But the big sporting event involving a ball

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Speaker 3: is not the rugby. It's good old fashioned football. It's

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Speaker 3: the third Kiwi Darby in the A League, the new

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Speaker 3: rivalry between orcandef C and Wellington Phoenix. It's back at Auckland.

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Speaker 3: A big crowd is expected. This is a great success.

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Speaker 3: Auklan's won the first two favorite to three peat it

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Speaker 3: The secret is Steve Corriker, He's built a wall, watched

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Speaker 3: of course, Joseph Parker versus Daniel Dubois for the heavyweight

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Speaker 3: reckons that Parker is a forty five percent chance, Dubois

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Speaker 3: That's good enough for me. It's a thirteen minutes out

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Speaker 3: to five. So there's a couple of Chinese warships one

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Speaker 1: You've talked, said they.

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Speaker 3: It's sixteen minutes oufter five. So the New Zealand Defense

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Speaker 3: Force is monitoring activity by a Chinese naval task force.

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 3: to you, Jeffrey.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: What are they up to?

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Speaker 8: Well, they're conducting a routine patrol, you might say, which

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Speaker 8: it is significant. Two hundred and seventy eight kilometers off

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Speaker 8: Australian Defense Minister y Say Richard Miles said, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, the Chinese know the rules. And of course

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Speaker 3: So there's a bit of saber rattling happening out in

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Speaker 8: Yes, he there's a lot going on. I mean, I

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Speaker 8: don't think it's probably a direct response to that. You

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Speaker 8: had several close calls in the South China Sea, including

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Speaker 8: I think it's imperatives that New Zealand continue to uphold

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Speaker 8: all these matters. Because when you add and also what's

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Speaker 8: I think this be watched in Beijing and perhaps New

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Speaker 8: more for greater defense spending. Remember we're still waiting on

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Speaker 8: the defense Capability Plan that's coming out in the coming months,

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Speaker 8: and defense spending is going to go up to probably

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Speaker 3: What an excellent answer, Jeffrey. I have to say, you

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Speaker 3: just answered three questions that I was going to ask

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Speaker 3: you in one answer. So I thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for your time. That is Jeffrey Miller, foreign policy expert,

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Speaker 3: knows what he's talking about. But yes, Winston's going to China.

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Speaker 3: He's got to talk about the Pacific, not just the

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Speaker 3: Cork Islands. Yes, our defense spending is low, and now

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Speaker 3: we're going to have to talk about it because the

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Speaker 3: whole world is talking about defense spending. Interesting days. Though

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Speaker 3: I'm old enough to know that I'm worried about the

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Speaker 3: and so far it hasn't happened, and I remain hopeful.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: On the way you I believe just how much it

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Andrew, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still forty four percent more expensive than

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Speaker 3: All right, Mike, I thank you Mike Blackburn. He's a

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Speaker 3: So we had Winston. He's still banging on two days

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Speaker 3: all sorts of people are playing. Unbelievably, the Prodigy are playing.

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Speaker 3: another cravy train, Yes it is, and isn't that ironic?

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Speaker 3: Callum morning? Andrew So Environment Southland and wetland losses and

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Speaker 12: About Electric Avenue. Can you hear me the Andrew we.

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Speaker 3: Can now My question for you, are you going to

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Speaker 3: how's the weather for the weekend for Electric Avenue.

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Speaker 12: Well, today's not looking as good. Could be some heavy

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Speaker 12: and thundery showers this morning, westerlies turning southerly, clearing and

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Speaker 12: a high of eighteen, but things to improve tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Maxtel joined us from Wellington Helmx Good morning. A one

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Speaker 3: punch killer sentence to prison.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a very sad case. Twenty one year old Luke

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Speaker 10: Smith was killed in an unprovoked attack at the end

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Speaker 10: of a night out on Courtney Place in October. He

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Speaker 10: and his family had only eight months earlier emigrated to

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Speaker 10: New Zealand from South Africa seeking a better life. Yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 10: twenty nine year old Sally was sentenced at the High

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Speaker 10: Court in Wellington more than two years about two years

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Speaker 10: behind bars the man's laughter. He had apparently punched Smith

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Speaker 10: for no apparent reason. Smith's family were in court yesterday,

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Speaker 10: his father telling the court that the day Sally killed Luke,

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Speaker 10: he had killed them as well, the parents. The father

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Speaker 10: has since set up a foundation in his son's name. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: absolute tragedy.

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Speaker 3: All right, how'd your weather party?

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Speaker 10: Cloudy today with occasional showers getting up into the mid twenties.

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Speaker 3: Have a good weekend, Max and Neva leti man who

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Speaker 3: joins me from Aukland.

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Speaker 13: Hello, mourning.

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Speaker 3: So level crossings in Auckland, they are pain and the proverbial.

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Speaker 3: Now the government, the good line, wants.

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Speaker 1: To get rid of them.

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Speaker 13: Yes, well, look what's happening now is that it's planning

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Speaker 13: to spend up to two hundred million dollars removing level

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Speaker 13: crossings here in Auckland. So Chris Bishop, the Transport minister,

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Speaker 13: he's expected to announce the investment today, Andrew and that

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Speaker 13: would see like seven level crossings this hasn't taken in

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Speaker 13: and Glen Ennis removed. Now they'll be replaced by these

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Speaker 13: new road bridges and station excess bridges. So that work

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Speaker 13: is expected to be completed around the time the City

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Speaker 13: rail Link opens next year. Bishop says, Look, this should

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Speaker 13: be quite good because people can experience the CRL's full

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Speaker 13: benefits and these removals will allow the frequent trains to

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Speaker 13: travel more along those lines.

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Speaker 3: But this thing, I mean, I support this thing. It's

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Speaker 3: going to be a revolution. We're gonna love it for

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Speaker 3: the next twenty or thirty years. But it keeps on

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Speaker 3: getting more expensive every day.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 13: And what months?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 13: Like that's why we haven't actually said, you know, it's

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Speaker 13: going to open. It will open, but when? What months? When?

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Speaker 13: But that funding is subject to approval by the NZTA board.

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Speaker 13: That's going to happen in April.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Orkin's with it today.

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Speaker 13: Cloudy showers mainly those showers mainly this afternoon here in Auckland.

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Speaker 13: Today's hight twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And I thank you so much, Graham Rights Andrew. Two

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Speaker 3: days ago two houses burnt to Milldale in one fire

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Speaker 3: cause electric car charging. Health and Safety should ban them, really,

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Speaker 3: they're a major hazard. Or maybe they should just invent

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Speaker 3: a battery that doesn't actually blow up. And Joan writes

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of Indians like the Kumar overstairs,

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Speaker 3: and yes there are. And it's about time the immigration

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Speaker 3: department got on top of the thing. Sixteen minutes to six,

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Speaker 3: We're off to Europe in a moment with Vincent McAvennie

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Speaker 3: as the war of words continues between President Trump and

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Speaker 3: President Zelenski and before six the dire strait is the

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Speaker 3: dire state of child poverty in this country. And we'll

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Speaker 3: go to the front line and just hear just how

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Speaker 3: bad it is. Give for a place to retire in Aukland,

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Speaker 3: some Hellias. It's got beautiful beaches and great cafes. I

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Speaker 3: know this my mother in law retired there. He had

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Speaker 3: a lovely time. So this is where the Hellia comes in.

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Speaker 3: The Helia is by Oceania. The Hellia is a modern,

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Speaker 3: beautiful boutique retirement residence with a welcoming community and fabulous stuff.

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Speaker 3: Everything at the Helia is designed with you in mind,

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Speaker 3: from the premium amenities to the weekly wellness clinics and

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Speaker 3: the inclusive community activities. They have a team to look

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Speaker 3: doing the things you want to do, but if you

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Speaker 3: want to give a helping hand you can. Now this

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Speaker 3: is retirement living that you've been dreaming of in a

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Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, so it is within reach.

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Speaker 3: It is thirteen to six. Vincent Mecavini joins me from Europe. Hello, Vincent, Hi,

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Speaker 3: good morning. So what's the reaction to the war of

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Speaker 3: words between Presidents Zelensky and Trump.

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Speaker 14: Well, a huge reaction in what has been a world

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Speaker 14: wind week of diplomacy where Europe's sort of foundation belief

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Speaker 14: in the Transatlantic Alliance has really been shaken. So President

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Speaker 14: Trump numerous times now coming out and criticizing President Zelenski,

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Speaker 14: effectively trumpeting Kremlin propaganda lines, calling him a dictator, questioning

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Speaker 14: why he hasn't done elections, which is fully legal within

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Speaker 14: the Ukrainian martial law, saying that he's not very popular

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Speaker 14: when he does still enjoy a decent amount of popularity,

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Speaker 14: and saying Russia has all the cards sounding very sympathetic

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Speaker 14: to Vladimir Putin, and we know that. You know, Donald

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Speaker 14: Trump is trying to get as Zelenski to sign a

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Speaker 14: deal for rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine, which

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Speaker 14: could be something that you know, is a good card

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Speaker 14: for Ukraine to play. But simply Donald Trump wants those

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Speaker 14: minerals without any kind of security deal or backing. So

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Speaker 14: President Zelenski is in a very difficult position. But many

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Speaker 14: European leaders, including Sakir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister, and

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Speaker 14: German Charles the Schultz coming to his aid and saying

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Speaker 14: this is completely wrong. This is a lie.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it shows you that if you decide to

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Speaker 3: take on President Trump in a war of words, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't step back. In fact, he always wants the last

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Speaker 3: word and he's quite heavy to ramp it all up.

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Speaker 3: So well, welcome to the new reality. Okay, Spain's next

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Speaker 3: football boss, Luis Ruby Alie Hairs been fined. He got

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Speaker 3: guilty of some stuff and not guilty of other.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right. You might remember the Woman's World Cup

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Speaker 14: final down in sidneya you guys in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 14: where Spain's team won and the Federation Football Federation boss

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Speaker 14: Luise ruby Alis just sort of grabbed one of the

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Speaker 14: players and kissed her and she seemed quite stunned by

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Speaker 14: it and said afterwards that it made her uncomfortable. Well,

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Speaker 14: he has been found guilty of sexual assault for kissing

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Speaker 14: at Jenny Hormoso without her consents, and he's been ordered

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Speaker 14: to pay a fine of over ten thousand euros by

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Speaker 14: Spain's High Course. And this created, of course a lot

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Speaker 14: of conversation at the time about what behaviors are acceptable

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Speaker 14: and not and it's sort of spawned a bit of

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Speaker 14: a me too movement in Spain in the subsequent years.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it was a good thing

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Speaker 3: that had happened that you can see the final of course,

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Speaker 3: he's lost his career, but you know, asked for a

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Speaker 3: ysplus and I thank you so much. Have a great

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Speaker 3: week in Vincent Mecavini, Europe. The time is now ten

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Speaker 3: to six seconds. There has been no change to child

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Speaker 3: poverty in the last year. Data released yesterday by Stat's

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Speaker 3: New Zealand shows that seventeen point seven percent of all

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Speaker 3: children are in poverty and that is based on household

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Speaker 3: income after housing costs have been paid. So save the

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Speaker 3: Children in New Zealand's advocacy and research director as Jackie South,

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Speaker 3: who joins me.

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Speaker 9: Now, hello, Jackie Childer Andrew.

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Speaker 3: Did you have any confidence that maybe the figures will

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Speaker 3: be better or were you expecting this?

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Speaker 15: We were expecting this. We've we are coming off the

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Speaker 15: back of a period of very high living costs, high inflation.

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Speaker 15: We're also seeing that there's a lot of financial strife

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Speaker 15: out there and people.

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Speaker 8: Have lost their jobs.

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Speaker 15: People are really feeling the cost of living, and we

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Speaker 15: know that we're in a recession.

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Speaker 8: So we didn't expect a rosy picture.

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Speaker 3: Are you expecting it to give rosier or do you

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Speaker 3: think this will continue on in the medium term.

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Speaker 15: Well, Unlessie makes significant change to the way that people

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Speaker 15: can access housing and that make it more affordable, whether

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Speaker 15: renting or owning a home, and also lift the lowest

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Speaker 15: incomes of the lowest income families, particularly for soule parent families,

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Speaker 15: this is not going to significantly change.

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Speaker 3: So seventeen point seven percent of all children are in

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Speaker 3: poverty based on household income after housing costs have been

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Speaker 3: taken out of the equation. So does that show that

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Speaker 3: the housing costs are the real issue in this country?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely?

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Speaker 15: We can see that the families on the lost incomes

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Speaker 15: to spending more than forty percent of their income on housing,

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Speaker 15: and that compares to twenty percent as a national average.

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Speaker 8: And so quite simply, it's not affordable.

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Speaker 15: It doesn't leave enough money to pay for the other

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Speaker 15: necessities in life, such as the energy costs, food costs,

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Speaker 15: to be able to service your car and make sure

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Speaker 15: you've got a decent car, money to get you where

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Speaker 15: you need to go.

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Speaker 3: So look, I had an interview earlier this morning where

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Speaker 3: I was talking to a guy about the cost of building,

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Speaker 3: and it's gone up forty four percent over the last

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Speaker 3: four years. Housing's not getting any more affordable. We know

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Speaker 3: this is the problem. We have been trying to fix

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Speaker 3: it for an age. So do you have any great

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Speaker 3: ideas about how the government could tackle child poverty, because

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Speaker 3: so far, with all the will in the world, it

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Speaker 3: hasn't worked well.

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Speaker 15: I think we've seen some changes in the way we

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Speaker 15: build houses and the sort of houses we need. You know,

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Speaker 15: for a long type of decades we were building very

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Speaker 15: big homes, multi bedroom, very expensive, and we've seen that

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Speaker 15: people have gone towards and more lest the kits at home,

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Speaker 15: and they've really improved in quality, they're more compact, they're

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Speaker 15: cheaper to build, and you know, that's a potential way

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Speaker 15: of solving our issues as looking at how can we

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Speaker 15: build smaller, better, good quality homes but are definitely more affordable.

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Speaker 15: And the other thing is we need to look at,

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Speaker 15: you know, the lowest incomes and that's for our sole

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Speaker 15: parent families. They're struggling on forty six thousand per annum

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Speaker 15: disposable income and that's absolutely shockingly low by any measure

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Speaker 15: for a family to be trying to live on in

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Speaker 15: this day and age. Amongst the costs that we face

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Speaker 15: for base living.

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Speaker 3: Jackie, you faced and thank you for all the work

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Speaker 3: you do. Jackie is Save the Children, New Zealand's advocacy

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Speaker 3: and research director. And this is News Talks. Here'd be

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Speaker 3: It's seven to six and MICA's next.

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Speaker 2: The News you Need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 3: It be so earlier this morning. I compared the ability

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Speaker 3: of the state to find an oriental fruit fly in

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Speaker 3: a suburb compared to their ability to find an overstayer

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Speaker 3: who's been here for twenty four years, and that's, of

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Speaker 3: course the Kumar case. Sean writes to me. More, the

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Speaker 3: reason they can find a fruit flyer is because they

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Speaker 3: set a trap. If traps were set to find overstayers,

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Speaker 3: they'd likely find hundreds. And fair enough, you've got to say,

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Speaker 3: twenty four years. How on earth did they do it? Uh,

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Speaker 3: my costume joins me, Now, good morning.

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Speaker 16: The reason they did it. So we talked about that

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Speaker 16: earlier on and people were under the impression that departments

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Speaker 16: sheer information, which of course they don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't.

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Speaker 16: So when you pay your tax, if you set up

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Speaker 16: your own company, you come to the country, you set

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Speaker 16: up your own company, you pay your tax, the ID

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Speaker 16: receives your tax. I wonder if you're an overstay, you

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Speaker 16: don't think about that.

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Speaker 3: That's something to think about.

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Speaker 16: Well, that's well, how many reports over the years, because

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Speaker 16: you've been around long enough, how many reports over the

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Speaker 16: years that have gone into the public service have they done?

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Speaker 10: Going?

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Speaker 16: There's not enough sharing of information and so it's the

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Speaker 16: same problem.

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Speaker 3: With the computer systems are atrocious. Examine the Health Department,

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Speaker 3: the ancient the platforms that they're on ancient. It's going

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Speaker 3: to cost billions. Effects but that's just yet another problem.

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Speaker 3: I like your haircuts well, because you've got rid of

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Speaker 3: the summer mop.

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Speaker 16: No, no, last time. I don't want to name names,

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Speaker 16: and I won't, but my hairdresser was away, so the

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Speaker 16: sub came in. The sub came in, and he's done

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Speaker 16: it before, so I wasn't a sub on one off,

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Speaker 16: but he done it for any Unfortunately, at the end

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Speaker 16: of it, he went, actually, I'm really pleased with that,

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Speaker 16: not interested in what you think, and so you're there

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Speaker 16: to grow out. And so what happened was because I'm

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Speaker 16: doing it back to the mast. That was three weeks growth.

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Speaker 16: Three weeks ago. Yeah, so three weeks so Greg was back,

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Speaker 16: and so yesterday we.

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Speaker 3: Got back to you. I thought, you're getting rid of

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Speaker 3: the summer mop. And then I thought, now has he

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Speaker 3: got rid of the crocs?

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Speaker 16: How much I hate to think one eighty eight and

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Speaker 16: people ridicule me for that, but look at it.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go.

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Speaker 16: How good do I look?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Beautiful? Rudimentel Son comes up there playing Electric Avenue. I'm

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Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens. Thank you, Kensey. See you next week.

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