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Speaker 1: But now, Gavin Gray, are UK correspondent, should be with

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Speaker 1: us now, Gaven you there? Hi? The hell, good stuff. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm good to talk to you. Now. What did you

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Speaker 1: guys make of Lydia Thorpe over in Australia yelling at

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Speaker 1: King Charles. Yeah, I think Look, I think they've kind

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Speaker 1: of expected one or two things in this trip. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it'll be the last either. I think it

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Speaker 1: was the fact that timing seemed to catch people out,

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Speaker 1: because potentially that might have come as he was giving

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Speaker 1: a speech or something, the idea. It was just towards

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Speaker 1: the end when he was rejoining Camilla back on the stage,

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Speaker 1: sitting at the stage when she started shouting. I think

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Speaker 1: caught a few people by surprise. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a tough visit for them.

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Speaker 1: I think the King was desperate to go to Australia

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Speaker 1: because he wanted to sort of seal his succession to

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Speaker 1: the throne. He hadn't been since he had been coronated,

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Speaker 1: so consequently, I think this has always better be one

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Speaker 1: of these tricky things. I don't think the media, although

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Speaker 1: they're running it big here, I don't think the media

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Speaker 1: is surprised by it. They're certainly not suggesting that the

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Speaker 1: King and his party was surprised by it. And I

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Speaker 1: just think it goes to underlining just the state of

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Speaker 1: affairs in Australia at the moment seeming to be quite

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Speaker 1: a rise of republicanism. Listen, why do we think that

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Speaker 1: Lucy Liby may have actually killed more babies? Evidence has

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Speaker 1: now emerged that another baby might also have been poisoned

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Speaker 1: within hours of her taking over the boy's care. So

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Speaker 1: Lucy let Be is Britain's in modern history, Britain's biggest

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Speaker 1: baby killer. She was found guilty of murdering seven babies

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Speaker 1: in attempting to murder seven others in a neonatal unit

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Speaker 1: in the northwest of England in just a one year

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Speaker 1: period between June twenty fifteen and June twenty sixteen. Now,

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Speaker 1: medical records are revealing that in another instance, the infant's

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Speaker 1: blood sugar level absolutely plummeted, with lab results later indicating

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Speaker 1: that he had suspiciously high levels of insulin. And that

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Speaker 1: was all Lucy let Be, who was taking over the

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Speaker 1: boy's care. The BBC is also reported that potentially life

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Speaker 1: threatening incidents involving infants almost occurred on almost a third

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Speaker 1: of her shifts while she was training at Liverpool's Women's

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Speaker 1: Hospital in a three year period. There has been huge

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Speaker 1: amount of criticism of the prosecution of the earlier case

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Speaker 1: seven murders and seven attempted murders, with some saying that

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Speaker 1: this is just the way evidence was portrayed. With the statistics,

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Speaker 1: there was no hard and fast evidence and indeed a

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Speaker 1: lot was really circumstantial evidence that she always seemed to

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Speaker 1: be on duty when people young babies died in unexpectedly.

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Speaker 1: So maybe this additional evidence will help, But calm the

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Speaker 1: nerves of the judicial system. What about jk Rowling, a

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Speaker 1: woman who turns down two peerages, yes, and said that

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Speaker 1: if she was offered a third she would do exactly

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Speaker 1: the same. Again, this is all because Kemmy Badanock, she

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Speaker 1: is one of the two hopefuls left potentially to take

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Speaker 1: over as leader of the Conservative Party now that Rishie

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Speaker 1: Sunak has stepped down, because Kemmy Badenock said that she

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Speaker 1: would give jk Rowling a peerage for her stance on gender.

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Speaker 1: Now this is something of course. Jk Rowling has been

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Speaker 1: prolific in her particular opinion about gender and trans people,

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Speaker 1: and she has said that some have accused her of

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Speaker 1: being transphobic, and now some are accusing Kemmy Badanock of

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Speaker 1: being transphobic by deliberately suggesting she would give the author

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Speaker 1: jk Rowling a peerage, so jk Rowling saying on X

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Speaker 1: that she'd been offered peerages quote once under labor, once

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Speaker 1: under the Tories, adding she still wouldn't take it if

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Speaker 1: honored for the third character. Kevin, thanks very much mate,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in two days time. Again. That's

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Speaker 1: Kevin Gray, a UK corresponding For more from Hither duplessy Ellen.

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