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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from NEWSTALKZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Just show of the year and what a year it's been.

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Speaker 2: So today it is the Weekend Sport Year in Review show,

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Speaker 2: as we look back at some of the great sporting

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Speaker 2: moments of twenty twenty four, some of our favorite guests,

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Speaker 2: some of our best sporting performances both here and abroad,

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Speaker 2: the big stories of the last twelve months, the issues

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Speaker 2: that captured our attention and got you talking, which you

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Speaker 2: certainly did across the year. We are spoilt for choice.

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Speaker 2: It was a huge sporting year, so plenty of the

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Speaker 2: highlights to come over the next three hours while we're

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Speaker 2: doing that, but a live sport on the boxing day,

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Speaker 2: Test Day four underway, India resumed at three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty eight for nine, trailing Australia by one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixteen runs. They've added five runs this morning for no

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Speaker 2: they'd be all out, wouldn't they. They're behind by one

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Speaker 1: Sport on your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 2: So we're going to start the Year in Review show

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Speaker 2: with the biggest events of the sporting year, the Paris

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Speaker 2: Olympic Games, our most successful Olympic Games ever ten gold medals,

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Speaker 2: seven silver, three bronze for a total of twenty who

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Speaker 2: are here from a number of those medalists over the

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Speaker 2: next little while, I wanted to start with kayaking and

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Speaker 2: Alicia Hoskin, who joined an exclusive group of Kiwi athletes

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Speaker 2: with Dame Lisa Carrington, Tara Vaughan and Olivia Brett. She

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Speaker 3: They are six meters ahead. Ah, They're flying the Kiwi crew.

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Speaker 3: There is no stopping Charrington and Hoskin. They are heading

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Speaker 4: Ahead of the opposition.

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Speaker 5: Charrington and Hoskin a boat length and a.

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Speaker 5: Two golds in two days for the dynamic duo.

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Speaker 2: Dame Lisa Carrington of course going on to win a

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Speaker 2: Alicia Hoskin shortly after she had returned from Paris and

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Speaker 2: how they quickly forged such an effect of K four combination.

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Speaker 7: Every girl brings sort of that unique quality to the boat.

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Speaker 7: So like someone like Olivia is an extremely powerful athlete,

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Speaker 7: So that's sort of like a big part of her

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Speaker 7: There's paddles everywhere, there's water flying everywhere. So the more

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Speaker 7: So yeah, everyone sort of brings there you unique quality

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Speaker 8: So yeah, everyone has a unique role.

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Speaker 8: So a lot of my responsibility is also within the communication.

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Speaker 2: Up my role brilliant. So in the lead up to Paris,

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's why it was so important for our

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Speaker 8: But it is a tricky thing and it's.

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Speaker 7: Not easy to be able to feel like all boats

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Speaker 2: So the K four gold medals locked away. The next

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Speaker 2: By contrast to the K four finally absolutely dominated the

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Speaker 8: But yeah, at that point, it was just incredible. It

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Speaker 7: And to have that many girls fighting behind us and

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Speaker 2: That's Alicia Hoskin, double gold medalist at the Paris Olympic Game.

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Speaker 2: She will go again. We wait to see whether Dame

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Speaker 2: round again for another Olympic cycle. Reviewing the year in

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Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics, Hamish Kur was another gold medalist, of course,

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Speaker 2: in that dramatic high jump final, which required a jump

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Speaker 2: off before he finally claimed the gold medal. The backstory,

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Speaker 2: of course, is the Hamish cur almost didn't make the final.

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Speaker 2: In qualifying, he missed twice at a height he would

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Speaker 2: normally comfortably clear two meters twenty. He had one more

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Speaker 2: if he can't get over here.

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Speaker 9: He needs to clear this distance or he is eliminated

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Speaker 9: in a high jump.

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Speaker 2: Qualifying Little smile on the.

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Speaker 9: Face of Hamish kur orang shoes flashing right handed approach.

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Speaker 2: He's over comfortably.

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Speaker 10: Why did we have a doubt?

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Speaker 9: Hands to the face of Hamish cur More through relief

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Speaker 9: than elation and gives the crowd a bow. No idea

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Speaker 9: what happened in his first two attempts at two twenty.

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Speaker 9: But he's up over two thirty easily there so we

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Speaker 2: When Hamish Kerr got home, I had a chat in

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Speaker 2: the third and qualifying it to twenty and how he

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, qualifying That's what I'll never forget as well

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Speaker 11: that feeling of sitting there after that second attempt. So

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Speaker 11: the first attempt was just about jump, you know you

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Speaker 11: of sitting there, going this has happened. The two previous

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Speaker 11: so this would have been even worse. And it's the

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Speaker 11: one that I was an amazing shape going into. And yeah,

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Speaker 11: the emotions. Those those emotions don't really mean anything on

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Speaker 11: And yeah, I just looked at my coach and he

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Speaker 11: of course you are, like you've done this, this is

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Speaker 11: being able to look at him and know that, I mean,

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Speaker 11: I was already crying, like it was. It was just

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Speaker 11: like such an emotional time for me. And yes, it's

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Speaker 11: just so weird because it's you know, that was probably

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Speaker 11: it probably it probably would have been the end of

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Speaker 11: my career if I hadn't cleared that. And yet you know,

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Speaker 2: That is incredible insight, man, because all the stuff you've

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Speaker 2: Well, whoever was making these decisions certainly got it right today.

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Speaker 2: It's Lydia Coe who earlier this week was awarded the

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Speaker 2: you from the Boxing Day Test where in the have

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Speaker 1: On News Talks VP, The Tough Questions Off the Turf,

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty eight on News Talks EDB and Our Year

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Speaker 3: Now, Alice Andrews on the inside, and but she's got

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Speaker 2: Once Aleise Andrews got home, I had a chap to

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Speaker 17: You just have to go full.

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Speaker 18: But you know, we've done a lot of work on

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Speaker 18: that two hundred in the last little while, and so

439
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Speaker 18: I knew that if I could get that right and

440
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Speaker 18: nail that, then I would qualify further up in the field.

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Speaker 18: So that was the first box to tick, and then

442
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Speaker 18: from from that point on, it was just you know,

443
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Speaker 18: focusing one race at a time. And yeah, I wasn't

444
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Speaker 18: a favorite. It was definitely an upset that I was

445
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Speaker 18: in the final ahead of some of some of the

446
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Speaker 18: other girls, but yeah.

447
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Speaker 17: It's just the way it happens.

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Speaker 2: I think some of my favorite images of Paris are

449
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Speaker 2: you staring down Leah Friedrich before the sprint final. Do

450
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Speaker 2: you do you enjoy that side of the event that

451
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Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's psyching someone out or do

452
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Speaker 2: you do you enjoy that sort of thing?

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it is.

455
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Speaker 18: Sprinting is a very interesting sport and interesting you know, discipline,

456
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Speaker 18: and you know that is part of it. And I

457
00:22:55,867 --> 00:22:58,467
Speaker 18: think it's not always just like freak someone out, you know,

458
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Speaker 18: like I do have to have eyes on my opponent

459
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Speaker 18: at all times, and I think for me that's like

460
00:23:03,027 --> 00:23:07,307
Speaker 18: a nice mental switch is to have that have that

461
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Speaker 18: moment where you roll up to the to the start

462
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Speaker 18: line and you are looking at your opponent because that's

463
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Speaker 18: what you're going to need to be doing to be

464
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Speaker 18: aware of where they are on the track, and so

465
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Speaker 18: that's part of it.

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Speaker 19: But then also knowing that.

467
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Speaker 18: You know it is that sort of mental mental game

468
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Speaker 18: side of it as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Can you give us some insight

470
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Speaker 2: into the influence of your coach, your dad, John.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Oh yeah, for sure.

472
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Speaker 18: He came on board less than a year before the Games,

473
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Speaker 18: after our previous coach Neck had to move back to

474
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Speaker 18: Australia with his family. So that was a real surprise

475
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Speaker 18: and probably reasonably truthful at the time to think, you know,

476
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Speaker 18: we are coach lists going into the Games. But you know,

477
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Speaker 18: it just worked out really well that John had just

478
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Speaker 18: been Australia coaching over there and then finally come back

479
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Speaker 18: to New Zealand and was working an art consultant contractor

480
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Speaker 18: role sorry, and so it just worked out that he

481
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Speaker 18: was able to apply to the job and come on board.

482
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Speaker 18: So yeah, it's been great to have him on board.

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Speaker 19: It's been really special.

484
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Speaker 18: It's been such whirlwind of a time, I think him

485
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Speaker 18: coming on board, especially because of how late he came

486
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Speaker 18: on and the piece, but I think we've been able

487
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Speaker 18: to do some really great work together.

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Speaker 2: That's Elise Andrews two golds and a silver from the

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Speaker 2: Paris Olympic Games twelve thirty four. This is our year

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Speaker 2: in review. I think we've all heard of Elise Andrews,

491
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Speaker 2: and as I say, when she arrived in Paris, she

492
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Speaker 2: was heavily favored to pick up the medals that she did. However,

493
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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that many of us had heard

494
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Speaker 2: of Finn Butcher before the Paris Olympic Games, but we

495
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Speaker 2: certainly knew his name after this.

496
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Speaker 5: Finn Butcher with about a boat length advantage now as

497
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Speaker 5: the Britz Clark makes in Rhodes. He's around gate five

498
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Speaker 5: years to go across the grain here, Butcher through gate six.

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Speaker 5: Two gates to go through seven for you, all important

500
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Speaker 5: upstream gates. For Finn Butcher just says to navigate it

501
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Speaker 5: safely and the gold medal is his. Finn Butcher is

502
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Speaker 5: an Olympic champion. Can you believe it? Carve his name

503
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Speaker 5: into New Zealand's sport history. The Butcher delivers the Goods

504
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Speaker 5: in Paris.

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Speaker 2: Tremendous commentary from a man Nick Beuley there as part

506
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Speaker 2: of our coverage of the Paris Olympic Games. After Finn

507
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Speaker 2: Butcher had had kayaked his way into our consciousness, I

508
00:25:42,587 --> 00:25:44,467
Speaker 2: had the chance to chat to him and that's what

509
00:25:44,627 --> 00:25:47,067
Speaker 2: was going through his mind as he was at the

510
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Speaker 2: top of the course waiting to be dumped into the

511
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Speaker 2: water at the start of a kayak cross race.

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Speaker 20: I guess I can I can probably go through from

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Speaker 20: from ten minutes before you've got to be us going

514
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Speaker 20: through the prestart. So we've got a big ten to

515
00:26:02,947 --> 00:26:06,187
Speaker 20: the top with pre start and you collect your colored

516
00:26:06,427 --> 00:26:09,947
Speaker 20: urb and choose your lane and then wait for the

517
00:26:09,947 --> 00:26:12,107
Speaker 20: previous heat to go and then go up the ramp.

518
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Speaker 20: And actually it was pretty cool. So Kelly Bailey, who's

519
00:26:17,267 --> 00:26:21,427
Speaker 20: from Wanaka, she was judging there and she was actually

520
00:26:21,427 --> 00:26:24,787
Speaker 20: the pre starter and so I've kind of grown up,

521
00:26:26,347 --> 00:26:29,147
Speaker 20: you know, with with her and in the community and

522
00:26:29,427 --> 00:26:32,187
Speaker 20: Central Target, and she's been judging a lot of races

523
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Speaker 20: and been around the show and organizing a lot.

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Speaker 21: So it was quite cool to just have you know,

525
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Speaker 21: she was.

526
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Speaker 20: Very professional in her role at the games, but you know,

527
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Speaker 20: every round I was coming up and just sort of

528
00:26:42,187 --> 00:26:45,027
Speaker 20: just given her a we hid nod and we just

529
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Speaker 20: just acknowledge each other.

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Speaker 21: So that was kind of the first part.

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Speaker 20: And then you through the prestart and just have a

532
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Speaker 20: chat with my coach and make sure I knew what

533
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Speaker 20: lane to peck and just almost a little yarn like

534
00:26:57,667 --> 00:27:01,147
Speaker 20: nothing nothing too serious, and we just give each other

535
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Speaker 20: a little first pump and so a few words and

536
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Speaker 20: and then yeah, I choose the choose the lane, wait

537
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Speaker 20: for a bit and then we go up the ramp

538
00:27:09,227 --> 00:27:11,907
Speaker 20: and they start playing. Once you get in, they start

539
00:27:11,947 --> 00:27:15,507
Speaker 20: playing sort of heartbeat, like the heart beat sound, and

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Speaker 20: it's sort of like sitting up on the ramp, you know,

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Speaker 20: quite high above the water, you know, four or five

542
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Speaker 20: meters above the water and just steering out to this

543
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Speaker 20: massive crowd with the heartbeat.

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Speaker 21: And sound going that's pretty you know, you're sort of like,

545
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Speaker 21: just drop me off now, we.

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Speaker 6: Just send us.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, so you know, and then when when.

548
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Speaker 20: The the process starts, so they they sort of go

549
00:27:40,067 --> 00:27:42,227
Speaker 20: in position, and then after that you're not not allowed

550
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Speaker 20: to move. So so I just wanted to be leaning

551
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Speaker 20: back as far as I could and then basically listen

552
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Speaker 20: for the start beat and react as fast as I

553
00:27:53,307 --> 00:27:57,507
Speaker 20: could throw myselfward and then almost let my all my

554
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Speaker 20: practice take over and just trying to land as good

555
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Speaker 20: as I could and get a good few strokes and

556
00:28:05,387 --> 00:28:07,987
Speaker 20: and just basically all I wanted to do was was

557
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Speaker 20: that was as much intense as possible, because you know,

558
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Speaker 20: that's the first part of the race, and it's basically

559
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Speaker 20: the only part you can control is how fast you

560
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Speaker 20: react to the ramp and how you can slide down it,

561
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Speaker 20: and anything else is like I.

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Speaker 21: Said before, you just play it how it lies.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, pretty much just really focused on the start,

564
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Speaker 20: waiting for that beep and then just wrap into it

565
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Speaker 20: as hard as that kid.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think about the final, I think probably the

567
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Speaker 2: British peddler Joe Clark probably the favorite. I guess if

568
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Speaker 2: you were going to, you know, list out who was

569
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Speaker 2: the gold medal favorite. But man, that that final, man,

570
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Speaker 2: you just gummed it from the start. Were never you know,

571
00:28:46,027 --> 00:28:48,067
Speaker 2: no one even challenged you. Was that like almost a

572
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Speaker 2: perfect race for you? The final?

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Speaker 20: Yeah? I mean, I guess any any race that you

574
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Speaker 20: wins the perfect race, but in this crazy, crazy.

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Speaker 21: Sport it is.

576
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Speaker 20: But I mean when I look back, I actually I

577
00:29:04,587 --> 00:29:07,227
Speaker 20: actually let go of my paddle when I landed off

578
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Speaker 20: the ramp.

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Speaker 2: Wow, which I.

580
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Speaker 20: Didn't even realize when I was in the race, But

581
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Speaker 20: when I look back and watched the slow mo, yeah,

582
00:29:14,947 --> 00:29:17,067
Speaker 20: my sick and strokes. I landed on the right stroke

583
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Speaker 20: and then my left stroke went in the water and

584
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Speaker 20: came up underneath the guys beside me his boat, and

585
00:29:22,627 --> 00:29:24,227
Speaker 20: so my hand came off and then I did a

586
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Speaker 20: right stroke and then grabbed it again. So I think

587
00:29:26,587 --> 00:29:30,027
Speaker 20: that was just like the zone I was in and

588
00:29:30,067 --> 00:29:32,507
Speaker 20: how much intent that I really I wanted to head

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Speaker 20: it with I did. I just was zoned into too

590
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Speaker 20: just going and yeah, I mean the two beside me, Joe,

591
00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:45,427
Speaker 20: who was probably the favorite, and then the German guy

592
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Speaker 20: no wah, just clash padals a little bit, and then

593
00:29:48,427 --> 00:29:49,987
Speaker 20: that gave me a bit of free water and I

594
00:29:49,987 --> 00:29:53,427
Speaker 20: could just build a lead from there, and from there

595
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Speaker 20: I could back my like my technique and my fittinness

596
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Speaker 20: as well. So you know, we've done almost ten days

597
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Speaker 20: of racing until that day. But I knew that I

598
00:30:04,827 --> 00:30:06,947
Speaker 20: was in really good shape and I've got a good,

599
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Speaker 20: good fatness space behind me. So yeah, basically going to

600
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Speaker 20: the finish, I knew that if I could just hold

601
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Speaker 20: enough of a gap in front of Joe and get

602
00:30:16,187 --> 00:30:17,707
Speaker 20: around that last up stream.

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Speaker 21: Before him, it would be It'll be all mine.

604
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Speaker 20: But yeah, if I think about it, it's quite funny

605
00:30:23,707 --> 00:30:26,227
Speaker 20: because you know, going into the last up stream, I

606
00:30:26,267 --> 00:30:29,667
Speaker 20: know I'm leading the Olympic Games, and if I execute that,

607
00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:31,547
Speaker 20: then I'll be the Olympic Champion.

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Speaker 21: And it's sort of like all of those.

609
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Speaker 20: Things are just trying to pull yourself out of the moment,

610
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Speaker 20: and and you know, I'm really proud of the way

611
00:30:42,027 --> 00:30:44,867
Speaker 20: that I could really focus and stay in the moment

612
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Speaker 20: and actually execute that, and then afterwards let myself realize,

613
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Speaker 20: because yes, it's pretty easy to lose track of focus

614
00:30:55,507 --> 00:30:57,467
Speaker 20: and just you know, for a split second, and then

615
00:30:57,907 --> 00:30:59,267
Speaker 20: things can go wrong pretty fast.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, I'll say it all the perfect race.

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Speaker 2: That's Fan Butcher, a gold medalist for New Zealand and

618
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Speaker 2: kayak cross at the Paris Olympic Games. As I say,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure the vast majority of New Zealanders knew

620
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Speaker 2: who he was before the Olympics. I think everybody knows

621
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Speaker 2: who Finn Butcher is. Now nineteen away from one. We're

622
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Speaker 2: back in the moment with more in our year in

623
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Speaker 2: review and back to Paris and our sole Paralympic gold medalist,

624
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Speaker 2: Ana Grimaldy After this.

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Speaker 1: The biggest Thames in sports are on Weekend Sport with

626
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Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gunnerhomes, New Zealand's most trusted home

627
00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,227
Speaker 1: builder News Dogs they'd.

628
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Speaker 2: Be sixteen away from one following the Paris Olympic Games.

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Speaker 2: The Paris Paralympic Games took place, New Zealand coming home

630
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Speaker 2: with nine medals, four bronze for silver and the gold

631
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Speaker 2: won by Anna Grimaldi in the t forty seven two

632
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Speaker 2: hundred meters. That's three gold medals for her now, after

633
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Speaker 2: back to back long jump golds at the last two

634
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Speaker 2: Paralympic Games. When I caught up with Anna Grimaldy one

635
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Speaker 2: she'd got home, I asked what she would have said

636
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Speaker 2: if someone had suggested she'd be coming home with gold

637
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Speaker 2: in the two hundred meters.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think I thought about this a lot. If

639
00:32:07,747 --> 00:32:10,067
Speaker 22: someone had said coming home from Paris with the gold,

640
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Speaker 22: I would have seed. I would have thought it was

641
00:32:12,867 --> 00:32:15,867
Speaker 22: in the long jump, like it was not. It wasn't

642
00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:17,787
Speaker 22: really on my radar to be winning the two hundred.

643
00:32:17,787 --> 00:32:21,987
Speaker 22: I thought maybe we had a good shot at doing okay,

644
00:32:22,267 --> 00:32:27,587
Speaker 22: and yes, being a being a crazy like a whipplash

645
00:32:27,627 --> 00:32:29,827
Speaker 22: actually because at least the long jump didn't go so well,

646
00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:33,427
Speaker 22: and then coming away with sort of the goal, but

647
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Speaker 22: like in a completely definitely mean it was. It was incredible.

648
00:32:38,707 --> 00:32:41,307
Speaker 22: I think I'm just blown away by the time, and

649
00:32:41,987 --> 00:32:44,827
Speaker 22: that I was able to step up, like do two

650
00:32:44,947 --> 00:32:47,827
Speaker 22: races in the same day and run quick at both races,

651
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Speaker 22: and yeah, I don't know, I'm just really proud.

652
00:32:51,267 --> 00:32:54,587
Speaker 2: That's funny, you should be proud. It was an amazing achievement.

653
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Speaker 2: Didn't you drop the two hundred from your program for

654
00:32:57,667 --> 00:33:00,067
Speaker 2: a while after you got a fracture in your foot

655
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Speaker 2: or something Back in twenty seventeen.

656
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Speaker 22: Yeah, in ten hours right after where I was having

657
00:33:04,707 --> 00:33:08,627
Speaker 22: a bit of trouble. Was my first time. We sort

658
00:33:08,627 --> 00:33:10,507
Speaker 22: of pushed on for it. We had World Champs and

659
00:33:10,987 --> 00:33:13,987
Speaker 22: London and I did the heats of the of the

660
00:33:13,987 --> 00:33:17,027
Speaker 22: two hundred meters was up first and I ran and

661
00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:19,947
Speaker 22: I hobbled off the trap. I could mean one walk

662
00:33:20,027 --> 00:33:23,427
Speaker 22: and we had to withdraw from the tree hundred final

663
00:33:23,547 --> 00:33:25,827
Speaker 22: in the one hundred and try and selverage it for

664
00:33:25,867 --> 00:33:28,427
Speaker 22: the long jump. And when I got home, we sort

665
00:33:28,427 --> 00:33:31,827
Speaker 22: of decided, like a lot something's got to given this program.

666
00:33:31,827 --> 00:33:34,227
Speaker 22: There's too many things but beings putting a lot of

667
00:33:34,267 --> 00:33:37,147
Speaker 22: pussure on my foot, which was fondle and found out

668
00:33:37,307 --> 00:33:40,387
Speaker 22: was actually when I got home, and so yeah, I

669
00:33:40,467 --> 00:33:42,947
Speaker 22: just put it on. I put it out of my mind.

670
00:33:42,947 --> 00:33:46,627
Speaker 22: Actually I really liked running the two but it just

671
00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:49,507
Speaker 22: I had to I had to, you know, start to

672
00:33:49,547 --> 00:33:51,467
Speaker 22: find something to keep the program going and to be

673
00:33:51,587 --> 00:33:54,547
Speaker 22: healthy again, and so I just actually never thought about

674
00:33:54,587 --> 00:33:57,987
Speaker 22: either running again. And then we thought I saw the

675
00:33:58,067 --> 00:34:02,267
Speaker 22: final from the stand World chance last year and this

676
00:34:02,427 --> 00:34:05,347
Speaker 22: is my character and I was like, oh, this race

677
00:34:05,427 --> 00:34:07,867
Speaker 22: is just reen Ran. I just watched it. I think

678
00:34:07,907 --> 00:34:10,907
Speaker 22: we could do that. We need to give a discussion

679
00:34:10,947 --> 00:34:13,467
Speaker 22: about it. And he's like, oh, he already talked to

680
00:34:13,467 --> 00:34:15,467
Speaker 22: a couple of people about maybe doing the two hundred

681
00:34:15,507 --> 00:34:18,267
Speaker 22: a game, so we were all on the same page.

682
00:34:18,547 --> 00:34:22,387
Speaker 22: And I think, yeah, I just felt like this big

683
00:34:22,507 --> 00:34:26,507
Speaker 22: full circle moment, like I finally trusted my body again

684
00:34:26,627 --> 00:34:28,427
Speaker 22: and what it could do, and then it was strong

685
00:34:28,627 --> 00:34:34,107
Speaker 22: and yeah, I think I entered the two hundred. To me,

686
00:34:34,547 --> 00:34:37,227
Speaker 22: I think in Paris, you know, it was just a

687
00:34:37,227 --> 00:34:41,347
Speaker 22: personal project to see maybe a direction we might want

688
00:34:41,347 --> 00:34:43,627
Speaker 22: to go after the game, and yeah, to have it

689
00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,027
Speaker 22: work out so well, it's so yeah.

690
00:34:46,027 --> 00:34:49,267
Speaker 2: Incredible, amazing. So in the long jump you were fourth,

691
00:34:49,467 --> 00:34:52,187
Speaker 2: just off the podium the event you won golden in

692
00:34:52,227 --> 00:34:55,227
Speaker 2: the last two games. How do you reflect on the

693
00:34:55,307 --> 00:34:57,107
Speaker 2: long jump in Paris?

694
00:34:57,707 --> 00:35:00,947
Speaker 22: Yeah, Look, it's hard, and I think I'm still in

695
00:35:00,987 --> 00:35:03,667
Speaker 22: the process of sort of proceed sing it all rictually,

696
00:35:03,747 --> 00:35:09,507
Speaker 22: and I think for so long, like I think if

697
00:35:09,587 --> 00:35:12,947
Speaker 22: I had come forth in Tokyo, I think I would

698
00:35:12,987 --> 00:35:16,867
Speaker 22: have that would have devastated me. And I think it's

699
00:35:16,907 --> 00:35:19,427
Speaker 22: a big testament to the work we've done over the

700
00:35:19,467 --> 00:35:22,827
Speaker 22: last three years to now be able to come away

701
00:35:22,827 --> 00:35:26,667
Speaker 22: from Paris. And though, you know what, like I'm I'm

702
00:35:26,787 --> 00:35:29,587
Speaker 22: still a two time Paralympic champion in the long jump,

703
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:33,547
Speaker 22: I'm still really great at long jump. I just had

704
00:35:33,547 --> 00:35:35,507
Speaker 22: a bad day out there. I just couldn't get it together.

705
00:35:36,027 --> 00:35:38,627
Speaker 22: And these days happened, and unfortunately mine was the one

706
00:35:38,707 --> 00:35:40,267
Speaker 22: day and the four years you don't want it to

707
00:35:40,307 --> 00:35:45,827
Speaker 22: go wrong, and yeah, I'm obviously still a bit guffed,

708
00:35:45,947 --> 00:35:48,347
Speaker 22: Like I wanted to put my best forward there and

709
00:35:48,387 --> 00:35:54,827
Speaker 22: I just couldn't do it. But I think it's just, yeah,

710
00:35:54,827 --> 00:35:58,027
Speaker 22: it's been nice knowing that the work we've done around

711
00:35:58,067 --> 00:36:03,067
Speaker 22: identity and sort of finding Anna away from the Golds

712
00:36:04,067 --> 00:36:08,267
Speaker 22: has obviously played a big and being able to recover

713
00:36:08,387 --> 00:36:12,187
Speaker 22: from the four from the long jump and coming forth,

714
00:36:12,267 --> 00:36:17,467
Speaker 22: and yeah, it just makes me really proud that I

715
00:36:17,587 --> 00:36:22,987
Speaker 22: still feel life I'm a champion, regardless of how this

716
00:36:23,107 --> 00:36:25,067
Speaker 22: one wins. I think for so long I was worried

717
00:36:25,107 --> 00:36:27,587
Speaker 22: if I didn't keep doing it. Yeah, for some reason,

718
00:36:27,627 --> 00:36:29,987
Speaker 22: it just makes the other one loose ballad, But that's

719
00:36:30,027 --> 00:36:31,827
Speaker 22: not true at all, And I think it's nice to

720
00:36:32,427 --> 00:36:36,547
Speaker 22: have now gone through that and really felt that.

721
00:36:35,867 --> 00:36:39,507
Speaker 2: That's a Ane Grimaldy Paralympic gold medalist in the two

722
00:36:39,667 --> 00:36:44,227
Speaker 2: hundred meters eleven away from one one final Olympic medallist.

723
00:36:44,267 --> 00:36:45,987
Speaker 2: When we come back as part of our Year in

724
00:36:46,067 --> 00:36:49,587
Speaker 2: Review show, Maddi Wishy, who won silver in the women's

725
00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:50,787
Speaker 2: shop put after.

726
00:36:50,587 --> 00:36:53,707
Speaker 1: This when it's down to the line. You made a

727
00:36:53,747 --> 00:36:59,507
Speaker 1: call on eight Weekend Sports with Jason Hine, News Talk ZV.

728
00:36:59,947 --> 00:37:02,067
Speaker 2: And our Year and Review show one of our seven

729
00:37:02,307 --> 00:37:05,387
Speaker 2: silver medallists at the Paris Olympic Games, Maddie Wishy, who

730
00:37:05,387 --> 00:37:07,947
Speaker 2: won silver in the women's shop. But I spoke to

731
00:37:07,987 --> 00:37:10,147
Speaker 2: her shortly after that to see how she was feeling.

732
00:37:10,307 --> 00:37:13,787
Speaker 23: I'm pretty happy, you know. I like this feeling throwing

733
00:37:13,787 --> 00:37:17,027
Speaker 23: a pebe at the Olympics and getting a silver medal,

734
00:37:17,067 --> 00:37:20,227
Speaker 23: though I would have liked the gold. Yeah, these are

735
00:37:20,227 --> 00:37:22,747
Speaker 23: the moments, These are the reasons why I do the sport,

736
00:37:22,787 --> 00:37:25,747
Speaker 23: being in such high and intense moments and such a

737
00:37:25,787 --> 00:37:29,467
Speaker 23: competitive field, and in Paris at the Olympics. Yeah, it's

738
00:37:30,347 --> 00:37:31,787
Speaker 23: a bit surreal right now.

739
00:37:32,307 --> 00:37:34,547
Speaker 2: Did you think you'd won it with your nineteen eighty.

740
00:37:34,307 --> 00:37:39,667
Speaker 23: Six I didn't, you know, I going into this predictions

741
00:37:39,667 --> 00:37:41,827
Speaker 23: with that woman's shot, we're going to be one with

742
00:37:41,907 --> 00:37:44,587
Speaker 23: the twenty meters. So I knew that someone was going

743
00:37:44,627 --> 00:37:47,347
Speaker 23: to pop think big and knew me was the one

744
00:37:47,387 --> 00:37:49,747
Speaker 23: to do it, and unfortunately I couldn't pull through in

745
00:37:49,787 --> 00:37:50,107
Speaker 23: the end.

746
00:37:50,427 --> 00:37:53,227
Speaker 2: But what an incredible was the fifth round, wasn't it?

747
00:37:53,267 --> 00:37:55,627
Speaker 2: She threw it out there and said, hey, laid down

748
00:37:55,667 --> 00:37:58,067
Speaker 2: the challenge for you. You pulled out the big nineteen

749
00:37:58,147 --> 00:38:00,947
Speaker 2: eighty six. Well can you just reflect on that moment?

750
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:02,747
Speaker 10: For us?

751
00:38:03,107 --> 00:38:06,067
Speaker 23: I had a bit of nerves going into that fifth throw,

752
00:38:07,147 --> 00:38:10,107
Speaker 23: knowing that, you know, I'd kind of been perped and

753
00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:14,027
Speaker 23: I needed to get my spot back, and yeah, it's

754
00:38:14,147 --> 00:38:19,067
Speaker 23: kind of muscle memory took over and training worked and yeah,

755
00:38:19,107 --> 00:38:19,747
Speaker 23: and here we are.

756
00:38:20,107 --> 00:38:21,627
Speaker 2: I was going to ask about that, how much did

757
00:38:21,667 --> 00:38:24,987
Speaker 2: you rely on your prep and trust your processes today?

758
00:38:26,987 --> 00:38:29,587
Speaker 23: One hundred percent? The whole way through was me trusting

759
00:38:29,627 --> 00:38:32,027
Speaker 23: the process. My team worked so hard to get me

760
00:38:32,067 --> 00:38:34,267
Speaker 23: on this big stage and help.

761
00:38:34,107 --> 00:38:35,667
Speaker 13: Me achieve some pretty big dreams.

762
00:38:35,707 --> 00:38:39,587
Speaker 23: And yeah, it was it was all trust the process

763
00:38:39,667 --> 00:38:43,627
Speaker 23: and training had been going well and qualifiers work to

764
00:38:43,627 --> 00:38:46,267
Speaker 23: get the big Q was good confidence. So yeah, it

765
00:38:46,307 --> 00:38:49,827
Speaker 23: was this is everything is prep work.

766
00:38:50,027 --> 00:38:53,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, smashing out the nineteen two five to automatically qualify.

767
00:38:53,227 --> 00:38:56,347
Speaker 2: How pleased were you to be able to do that yesterday?

768
00:38:57,107 --> 00:38:59,627
Speaker 23: Super happy to be able to get the big Q

769
00:38:59,787 --> 00:39:01,747
Speaker 23: and qualifications my first big Q.

770
00:39:01,987 --> 00:39:03,267
Speaker 13: Usually I'm down at.

771
00:39:03,187 --> 00:39:05,747
Speaker 23: The bottom of the ranks and then in the finals

772
00:39:05,747 --> 00:39:08,907
Speaker 23: I'm kind of suck in the lower part of top eight.

773
00:39:09,067 --> 00:39:11,547
Speaker 23: And so to be amongst the top girls and such

774
00:39:11,547 --> 00:39:15,187
Speaker 23: a competitive time and Woman's Shop put yeap super trussed.

775
00:39:15,427 --> 00:39:18,227
Speaker 2: You always look so relaxed, Maddie. Is that part of

776
00:39:18,267 --> 00:39:18,867
Speaker 2: your secret?

777
00:39:20,507 --> 00:39:21,067
Speaker 4: I think so.

778
00:39:21,387 --> 00:39:23,107
Speaker 23: I think it's just a part of who I am.

779
00:39:23,187 --> 00:39:26,387
Speaker 23: I try not to take things too seriously and at

780
00:39:26,387 --> 00:39:28,067
Speaker 23: the end of the day, this is just sport and

781
00:39:28,067 --> 00:39:29,667
Speaker 23: there's a lot of things that are bigger than this.

782
00:39:29,827 --> 00:39:33,307
Speaker 23: So to be able to do my passion and to

783
00:39:33,387 --> 00:39:37,547
Speaker 23: travel the world, yep. Can't be too stressed and can't

784
00:39:37,547 --> 00:39:39,827
Speaker 23: be too big headed about anything.

785
00:39:39,987 --> 00:39:40,227
Speaker 24: Well.

786
00:39:40,307 --> 00:39:42,347
Speaker 2: I mean the other part is that you encourage the

787
00:39:42,387 --> 00:39:44,907
Speaker 2: other throwers as well. I don't think I've ever seen

788
00:39:45,027 --> 00:39:49,507
Speaker 2: that you're geeing up those who are who you're you're

789
00:39:49,507 --> 00:39:51,947
Speaker 2: throwing against. It's an incredible thing that you do.

790
00:39:53,747 --> 00:39:55,947
Speaker 23: We were all doing it. It wasn't just me, And

791
00:39:56,027 --> 00:39:58,787
Speaker 23: that's at every single competition, we're all cheering for each other.

792
00:39:59,187 --> 00:40:01,427
Speaker 23: You do your best and then you can beat the best,

793
00:40:01,467 --> 00:40:04,667
Speaker 23: and then that's a great competition. And that's why women's

794
00:40:04,667 --> 00:40:07,587
Speaker 23: shotput at the moment is so competitive. Not only are

795
00:40:07,587 --> 00:40:11,627
Speaker 23: they amazing people, but they make the infield so much

796
00:40:11,707 --> 00:40:14,507
Speaker 23: and so much more enjoyable when we can both banter

797
00:40:14,787 --> 00:40:17,547
Speaker 23: and compete as strong, powerful woman.

798
00:40:18,107 --> 00:40:20,227
Speaker 2: Where do you assess with that we're shotputters right now?

799
00:40:20,267 --> 00:40:22,747
Speaker 2: Are we looking at some twenty one twenty two's in

800
00:40:22,747 --> 00:40:23,947
Speaker 2: the not too distant future?

801
00:40:25,267 --> 00:40:25,507
Speaker 6: Yeah?

802
00:40:25,547 --> 00:40:26,107
Speaker 10: I reckon.

803
00:40:26,107 --> 00:40:28,547
Speaker 23: We've got so many women on the cusp of twenty

804
00:40:28,547 --> 00:40:31,347
Speaker 23: one meters and once you're at twenty one, then twenty

805
00:40:31,427 --> 00:40:34,547
Speaker 23: two and then the world records in the the arena.

806
00:40:34,707 --> 00:40:37,707
Speaker 2: So why not as Mattie Wishy a silver medallist in

807
00:40:37,787 --> 00:40:40,467
Speaker 2: the women's shop put at the Paris Olympics, that wraps

808
00:40:40,507 --> 00:40:43,867
Speaker 2: our hour of Olympic memories. I know there were many,

809
00:40:43,907 --> 00:40:46,227
Speaker 2: many more, just a few there of the medalists in

810
00:40:46,867 --> 00:40:50,667
Speaker 2: Paris at the Paris Olympics and Paralympic Games. After the

811
00:40:50,707 --> 00:40:53,667
Speaker 2: news at won, our year and review show continues as

812
00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:56,107
Speaker 2: we focus in on rugby. Some of the big rugby

813
00:40:56,187 --> 00:40:58,747
Speaker 2: stories of twenty twenty four, and again there were plenty.

814
00:40:59,027 --> 00:41:02,147
Speaker 2: Australia twenty without loss in their second innings now lead

815
00:41:02,187 --> 00:41:04,947
Speaker 2: by one hundred and twenty five runs in the Boxing

816
00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:07,867
Speaker 2: Day Test in Melbourne. Our yet and review continues after

817
00:41:07,907 --> 00:41:10,627
Speaker 2: one our next weekend. I guess to kick off twenty

818
00:41:10,667 --> 00:41:13,147
Speaker 2: twenty five, but for now it's a chance to look

819
00:41:13,187 --> 00:41:14,907
Speaker 2: back at some of the big sports stories of the year,

820
00:41:14,987 --> 00:41:17,147
Speaker 2: some of our best guests and some of the big

821
00:41:17,427 --> 00:41:22,027
Speaker 2: talking points we spoke Olympics last hour. Let's get into rugby.

822
00:41:22,067 --> 00:41:24,267
Speaker 2: We got great access to the All Blacks this year.

823
00:41:24,347 --> 00:41:27,027
Speaker 2: I chatted to a number of players and coaches on

824
00:41:27,067 --> 00:41:30,827
Speaker 2: the show across the international season, and probably the highlight

825
00:41:30,907 --> 00:41:32,867
Speaker 2: was at the end of June we were given the

826
00:41:32,987 --> 00:41:35,947
Speaker 2: chance to spend an hour with new All Blacks head

827
00:41:35,947 --> 00:41:38,987
Speaker 2: coach as he was then Scott Robertson, just a few

828
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Speaker 2: days after he had unveiled his first squad in the

829
00:41:42,547 --> 00:41:45,307
Speaker 2: top job. So we set up a studio at the

830
00:41:45,427 --> 00:41:48,267
Speaker 2: nzed Cis and Upper Hut where the All Black squad

831
00:41:48,307 --> 00:41:50,667
Speaker 2: were based as they prepared for the first couple of

832
00:41:50,667 --> 00:41:53,547
Speaker 2: test matches of the year against England. Scott Robertson came

833
00:41:53,587 --> 00:41:56,307
Speaker 2: and joined us and we chatted about a wide variety

834
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:58,947
Speaker 2: of topics. Took lots of your calls as well. So

835
00:41:59,027 --> 00:42:02,347
Speaker 2: here are some of Scott Robertson's comments. This of course,

836
00:42:02,387 --> 00:42:05,147
Speaker 2: remember as before he had coached the team at all

837
00:42:05,467 --> 00:42:08,787
Speaker 2: in a Test match. He talked first about the quality

838
00:42:08,907 --> 00:42:11,507
Speaker 2: of the loose forwards at his disposal.

839
00:42:12,147 --> 00:42:15,987
Speaker 25: Oh, the quality of the depth, the different skill set.

840
00:42:16,027 --> 00:42:18,227
Speaker 25: You know, your trademarks have got, you know, things that

841
00:42:18,267 --> 00:42:22,147
Speaker 25: they go back to their strengths, you under the head

842
00:42:22,147 --> 00:42:24,667
Speaker 25: of the game. And you know, a beet of like

843
00:42:24,827 --> 00:42:28,307
Speaker 25: I as a prime example, what a season breakout season

844
00:42:28,347 --> 00:42:31,507
Speaker 25: for him, both break great, both sides of the ball,

845
00:42:32,267 --> 00:42:35,307
Speaker 25: so quick in the line out. But to pay seven,

846
00:42:35,387 --> 00:42:37,467
Speaker 25: eight and two positions. And that's a great thing about

847
00:42:37,627 --> 00:42:40,587
Speaker 25: the loose food ward group that we've got here. They

848
00:42:40,627 --> 00:42:45,867
Speaker 25: all can play two positions, you know, especially if you're

849
00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:47,947
Speaker 25: going to be on the bench, if you're going to

850
00:42:47,987 --> 00:42:49,547
Speaker 25: come off the bench, you've got to play a couple

851
00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:50,667
Speaker 25: or three.

852
00:42:51,187 --> 00:42:52,947
Speaker 2: Are you Do you think the data of the lock

853
00:42:53,027 --> 00:42:55,667
Speaker 2: loose forward utility you're gone or is that still a thing?

854
00:42:55,827 --> 00:42:56,067
Speaker 26: Yeah?

855
00:42:56,507 --> 00:42:59,187
Speaker 25: Look, I think Shendon Frazel was on the prime example

856
00:42:59,227 --> 00:43:01,347
Speaker 25: of that. Some a penny female can can do it

857
00:43:03,387 --> 00:43:06,027
Speaker 25: all the other way around. You know, can go to

858
00:43:06,067 --> 00:43:10,827
Speaker 25: six required, which is done many times just because you're

859
00:43:10,907 --> 00:43:13,587
Speaker 25: you're locking stock. So yeah, look you've still got hybrid players.

860
00:43:13,587 --> 00:43:15,187
Speaker 25: You've got players you can play in a couple of positions.

861
00:43:15,227 --> 00:43:16,827
Speaker 25: Look at the South afric and you can go number

862
00:43:16,867 --> 00:43:20,147
Speaker 25: eight and hooker. And I think it's really critical as

863
00:43:20,147 --> 00:43:22,907
Speaker 25: you get closer to World Cup cycles. You know you're

864
00:43:22,947 --> 00:43:26,907
Speaker 25: thirty three, that you're picking the versatility and the ability

865
00:43:26,947 --> 00:43:29,347
Speaker 25: to play two or three positions will get you in

866
00:43:29,347 --> 00:43:29,747
Speaker 25: the squad.

867
00:43:29,947 --> 00:43:31,187
Speaker 2: You mentioned the World Cup there and I had that

868
00:43:31,267 --> 00:43:33,467
Speaker 2: written down. How much of what you do in twenty

869
00:43:33,507 --> 00:43:36,147
Speaker 2: twenty four is with an eye to the next Rugby

870
00:43:36,187 --> 00:43:37,907
Speaker 2: World Cup and twenty twenty seven.

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00:43:39,947 --> 00:43:42,707
Speaker 25: Look, I think the importance of the bee jersey is

872
00:43:42,747 --> 00:43:46,987
Speaker 25: you win and develop. There's a little bit of expectation

873
00:43:47,147 --> 00:43:49,867
Speaker 25: that comes with that and I'm well aware of that,

874
00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:51,107
Speaker 25: and so.

875
00:43:53,107 --> 00:43:54,227
Speaker 12: It's important.

876
00:43:55,547 --> 00:43:57,227
Speaker 25: The win the test batch in front of you, but

877
00:43:57,307 --> 00:44:01,547
Speaker 25: grow people, give them opportunities, get them in combinations and

878
00:44:02,707 --> 00:44:06,107
Speaker 25: so they over you set them up to succeed over

879
00:44:06,107 --> 00:44:09,707
Speaker 25: the four years, try them. Are they test footballers. Can

880
00:44:09,747 --> 00:44:12,707
Speaker 25: they handle it? Can you? The weeks have big, the

881
00:44:12,787 --> 00:44:15,147
Speaker 25: expectations high, the pressures are and we get them ready

882
00:44:15,147 --> 00:44:16,987
Speaker 25: for it, and then the opportunities for them when we

883
00:44:17,067 --> 00:44:19,947
Speaker 25: find out and in some people surprise you.

884
00:44:20,427 --> 00:44:23,467
Speaker 2: What about guys who you aren't sure will make it

885
00:44:23,507 --> 00:44:26,267
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty seven? They're you know, they're in their thirties,

886
00:44:26,507 --> 00:44:28,627
Speaker 2: and there is some guys in your squad with you know,

887
00:44:28,667 --> 00:44:32,187
Speaker 2: a lot of experience, who might Who is everybody who's

888
00:44:32,427 --> 00:44:36,147
Speaker 2: been picked this week? Do you think that they'll be

889
00:44:36,707 --> 00:44:42,787
Speaker 2: eligible or available in twenty twenty seven? All going well, oh.

890
00:44:42,467 --> 00:44:46,347
Speaker 25: It's a good question without going through the food. God

891
00:44:46,427 --> 00:44:49,147
Speaker 25: that we're here off the top of my mind. Oh, look,

892
00:44:49,827 --> 00:44:55,827
Speaker 25: it's amazing how old you can get, you know, no

893
00:44:55,947 --> 00:45:00,387
Speaker 25: joint injuries in your career, The longevity can get after

894
00:45:00,427 --> 00:45:06,107
Speaker 25: looking after your body, the you know, the sports science,

895
00:45:06,707 --> 00:45:10,147
Speaker 25: the recovery is incredible. And they're playing good Arabian look

896
00:45:10,147 --> 00:45:11,907
Speaker 25: at look at the South African team. They had a

897
00:45:11,947 --> 00:45:17,307
Speaker 25: lot of goal older mature players that had great leadership

898
00:45:17,747 --> 00:45:20,387
Speaker 25: and in the last all back squad that went over,

899
00:45:20,747 --> 00:45:21,827
Speaker 25: you know, it's still playing good footy.

900
00:45:21,867 --> 00:45:22,267
Speaker 12: Denld.

901
00:45:22,267 --> 00:45:27,227
Speaker 25: Look at us Dan cultures to look at his you know,

902
00:45:27,307 --> 00:45:29,587
Speaker 25: contribution on and off the field, so you need them

903
00:45:29,627 --> 00:45:32,427
Speaker 25: for sure. Look i can't answer there right now four

904
00:45:32,507 --> 00:45:37,187
Speaker 25: years out, but I'm sure there are in any way, just.

905
00:45:37,107 --> 00:45:39,627
Speaker 2: A couple of more if you take a break, how

906
00:45:39,707 --> 00:45:42,347
Speaker 2: much of what was so successful for you at the

907
00:45:42,387 --> 00:45:47,747
Speaker 2: Crusaders is transferable into the all blacks environment, all the.

908
00:45:47,747 --> 00:45:50,187
Speaker 25: Culture and leadership stuff and like on field coaching. That's

909
00:45:50,187 --> 00:45:52,187
Speaker 25: how I sort of break it up those three areas.

910
00:45:53,107 --> 00:45:56,187
Speaker 25: You've got to get your game right along with your

911
00:45:56,227 --> 00:46:00,387
Speaker 25: leadership how they how do they drive the team on

912
00:46:00,507 --> 00:46:02,267
Speaker 25: and off the field. And then also the cultural but

913
00:46:02,507 --> 00:46:05,187
Speaker 25: you know which identity, who you are, where you're playing for,

914
00:46:05,667 --> 00:46:09,747
Speaker 25: what do you care ab out any roles in responsibilities?

915
00:46:09,747 --> 00:46:11,747
Speaker 25: And then there comes to the culture the people side

916
00:46:11,787 --> 00:46:14,307
Speaker 25: of it. So a lot of that transference comes along.

917
00:46:14,347 --> 00:46:16,787
Speaker 25: And it's a black jersey. We're taking it to a

918
00:46:16,827 --> 00:46:22,027
Speaker 25: whole country now. You know, we've got a great responsibility

919
00:46:22,187 --> 00:46:25,027
Speaker 25: that we've been given by you know, our ancestors and

920
00:46:25,027 --> 00:46:27,307
Speaker 25: the people that have played in our juwsey before and

921
00:46:27,347 --> 00:46:30,587
Speaker 25: all the fans that have been with us along along

922
00:46:30,587 --> 00:46:30,907
Speaker 25: the way.

923
00:46:31,027 --> 00:46:35,947
Speaker 2: So it's just a lot bigger. If I'm just trying

924
00:46:35,947 --> 00:46:37,187
Speaker 2: to think of the right way to ask this question.

925
00:46:37,227 --> 00:46:40,467
Speaker 2: But if someone looked down from above and wasn't able

926
00:46:40,507 --> 00:46:42,267
Speaker 2: to see whether you were the Crusaders coach the All

927
00:46:42,307 --> 00:46:44,747
Speaker 2: Blacks coach, well they notice a difference. Do you think

928
00:46:44,747 --> 00:46:47,267
Speaker 2: you'll be different in an All Blacks environment than you

929
00:46:47,307 --> 00:46:48,747
Speaker 2: were in the Crusader's environment.

930
00:46:49,347 --> 00:46:50,027
Speaker 12: What do you think?

931
00:46:50,067 --> 00:46:51,827
Speaker 2: Well, I think they probably will be. I think they

932
00:46:51,827 --> 00:46:54,267
Speaker 2: probably will be. Like I'm interested to know how though.

933
00:46:55,067 --> 00:46:57,627
Speaker 25: Look on I'm still the same person. I'm not going

934
00:46:57,707 --> 00:47:00,587
Speaker 25: to You know that the energy I bring every day

935
00:47:00,587 --> 00:47:02,227
Speaker 25: and the enjoyment of it, and you know that we

936
00:47:02,387 --> 00:47:05,227
Speaker 25: just hit a couple of hours training and I'm walking

937
00:47:05,227 --> 00:47:10,307
Speaker 25: around observing chipping and when I need to giving a

938
00:47:10,307 --> 00:47:14,227
Speaker 25: little bit of feedback to the coaches to just using

939
00:47:14,267 --> 00:47:17,067
Speaker 25: my eye. But because of the breadtham with the you know,

940
00:47:17,147 --> 00:47:19,307
Speaker 25: the on field and off field stuff. You know, we've

941
00:47:19,307 --> 00:47:23,387
Speaker 25: got a commercial manager now and a rugby manager. You know,

942
00:47:23,387 --> 00:47:26,147
Speaker 25: we've got two CEOs in our organization. There's a couple

943
00:47:26,187 --> 00:47:29,627
Speaker 25: of hundred staff, so it's bigger to give you a context.

944
00:47:29,667 --> 00:47:33,507
Speaker 25: You know, I don't know for seven lawyers. You know

945
00:47:33,547 --> 00:47:40,347
Speaker 25: we've got it's big, So you need incredible coaching group

946
00:47:40,387 --> 00:47:43,827
Speaker 25: around you and incredible management and they have to be

947
00:47:43,867 --> 00:47:46,787
Speaker 25: world leading. They truly do. So you know, I'll do

948
00:47:46,907 --> 00:47:48,787
Speaker 25: my thing, but you have to give ownership and trust

949
00:47:48,787 --> 00:47:51,787
Speaker 25: to so many people to go and and own their

950
00:47:51,867 --> 00:47:54,947
Speaker 25: role and make the base, will get the past prepared for,

951
00:47:56,907 --> 00:47:57,907
Speaker 25: you know, to be the best they can.

952
00:47:58,387 --> 00:48:00,947
Speaker 2: Last question before the break is around how big it

953
00:48:01,067 --> 00:48:03,747
Speaker 2: is and how little time you have? How do you

954
00:48:04,387 --> 00:48:07,387
Speaker 2: work out the best use each day and each hour.

955
00:48:07,467 --> 00:48:09,267
Speaker 2: I mean, you've given us an hour. This is incredible.

956
00:48:09,307 --> 00:48:11,107
Speaker 2: I know you're so busy, but how do you work

957
00:48:11,147 --> 00:48:13,107
Speaker 2: out the best use of every hour in your day?

958
00:48:14,587 --> 00:48:16,907
Speaker 25: Look, you've got to have time for people.

959
00:48:17,027 --> 00:48:17,747
Speaker 2: It's number one.

960
00:48:18,307 --> 00:48:23,507
Speaker 25: And you've got to get your planning done early, and

961
00:48:23,547 --> 00:48:28,947
Speaker 25: then it's getting time in front, eyes on, eyes around

962
00:48:29,107 --> 00:48:32,347
Speaker 25: the opportunities when you're eating their connection piece on and off,

963
00:48:32,587 --> 00:48:35,427
Speaker 25: being a steppy head looking not what that day is,

964
00:48:35,507 --> 00:48:37,707
Speaker 25: but the next week is in a couple of weeks.

965
00:48:38,027 --> 00:48:39,907
Speaker 25: You know, when you start getting into the MPC and

966
00:48:39,947 --> 00:48:44,947
Speaker 25: you've got guys playing, you're looking at the schedule for

967
00:48:44,987 --> 00:48:46,987
Speaker 25: the NPC, You've got all your injured guys that are

968
00:48:46,987 --> 00:48:49,867
Speaker 25: coming back and forward. You know you're starting to work

969
00:48:49,907 --> 00:48:53,867
Speaker 25: with Clayton McMillan around the eight or backs fifteen. You're

970
00:48:53,907 --> 00:48:56,627
Speaker 25: starting to share, so there's a lot of big picture

971
00:48:56,707 --> 00:48:59,587
Speaker 25: stuff that comes along with it. And I love it.

972
00:48:59,667 --> 00:49:03,707
Speaker 25: I like, I really enjoy it. I love forecasting being ahead,

973
00:49:04,347 --> 00:49:09,427
Speaker 25: not just like I said, from now until the end

974
00:49:09,467 --> 00:49:09,827
Speaker 25: of the year.

975
00:49:09,987 --> 00:49:13,747
Speaker 2: That is Scott Robertson, some of his comments during a

976
00:49:13,827 --> 00:49:16,107
Speaker 2: very enjoyable hour we spent together at the back end

977
00:49:16,147 --> 00:49:19,987
Speaker 2: of June. Hopefully we can repeat that in twenty twenty five.

978
00:49:20,107 --> 00:49:23,467
Speaker 2: Some interesting comments and the hindsight of them as well,

979
00:49:24,147 --> 00:49:28,387
Speaker 2: having now endured that's the wrong word. Enjoyed the first

980
00:49:28,427 --> 00:49:32,267
Speaker 2: year under Scott Robertson as All Blacks head coach. Starting

981
00:49:32,307 --> 00:49:35,827
Speaker 2: with rugby. Earlier in the year, a World Rugby report

982
00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:40,947
Speaker 2: revealed the extent of online abuse during last year's Rugby

983
00:49:40,987 --> 00:49:44,027
Speaker 2: World Cup. It was carried out after the tournament and

984
00:49:44,147 --> 00:49:49,907
Speaker 2: included nine hundred participants' social media accounts across referees, players, coaches,

985
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:56,467
Speaker 2: teams and organizations, and of the abuse targeted directly at individuals.

986
00:49:56,947 --> 00:50:00,307
Speaker 2: English referee Wayne Barnes, who retired after the World Cup,

987
00:50:00,627 --> 00:50:05,707
Speaker 2: received a third of all of the abuse online. It

988
00:50:05,867 --> 00:50:09,827
Speaker 2: ranged from on match fixing and corruption, accusations to violent

989
00:50:10,027 --> 00:50:14,547
Speaker 2: and family related threats, and over two thousand posts from

990
00:50:14,667 --> 00:50:19,387
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred separate accounts were identified as have been sending

991
00:50:19,427 --> 00:50:22,827
Speaker 2: abuse or threats across the Rugby World Cup last year.

992
00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:27,907
Speaker 2: It was quite troubling and a real eye opener. After

993
00:50:27,947 --> 00:50:30,587
Speaker 2: the report came out, I spoke to All Black's assistant

994
00:50:30,627 --> 00:50:34,387
Speaker 2: coach Jason Ryan to get his reaction to it. Initial

995
00:50:34,427 --> 00:50:35,227
Speaker 2: thoughts to me was.

996
00:50:35,427 --> 00:50:43,427
Speaker 27: Really quite sad, to be honest, embarrassing, disrespectful and you know,

997
00:50:43,587 --> 00:50:48,427
Speaker 27: really I think it's the findings that they've gotten and

998
00:50:48,547 --> 00:50:52,387
Speaker 27: what's been happening with messaging and threats that have been

999
00:50:53,187 --> 00:50:58,147
Speaker 27: sent to referees their families is discussing and it's something

1000
00:50:58,147 --> 00:51:02,867
Speaker 27: that needs to be cracked down on at the highest level.

1001
00:51:03,107 --> 00:51:05,387
Speaker 27: You know, when you get a guy like you know,

1002
00:51:05,427 --> 00:51:08,907
Speaker 27: Wayne Barnes, probably one of the most experienced referees in

1003
00:51:08,947 --> 00:51:12,027
Speaker 27: the world, just go and chuck the game in and

1004
00:51:12,267 --> 00:51:14,907
Speaker 27: maybe not even give back to it. I'm not sure

1005
00:51:14,907 --> 00:51:17,267
Speaker 27: what he's up to. Well, it's a sad state of affairs,

1006
00:51:17,307 --> 00:51:20,747
Speaker 27: and the sooner it's done, something has done about it

1007
00:51:20,987 --> 00:51:24,907
Speaker 27: at the highest level, whether or not that's through the law,

1008
00:51:26,187 --> 00:51:30,027
Speaker 27: criminal offenses or world rugby. That has to stop because

1009
00:51:30,067 --> 00:51:32,507
Speaker 27: it's not good enough for our game, and it's not

1010
00:51:32,547 --> 00:51:34,067
Speaker 27: good enough at all.

1011
00:51:34,067 --> 00:51:37,747
Speaker 2: Really, were you surprised, Jase at the at the volume

1012
00:51:38,107 --> 00:51:42,427
Speaker 2: and the level of abuse that that referees have been receiving.

1013
00:51:43,387 --> 00:51:45,347
Speaker 21: Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was.

1014
00:51:45,667 --> 00:51:48,707
Speaker 27: I think I think that that was the one that

1015
00:51:48,747 --> 00:51:51,347
Speaker 27: probably threw me the most, Jase, to be fair, I think,

1016
00:51:51,947 --> 00:51:56,467
Speaker 27: you know, and it's just it's been constant and some

1017
00:51:56,507 --> 00:51:58,227
Speaker 27: of the messages I've got and they want to probably

1018
00:51:58,307 --> 00:52:02,507
Speaker 27: repeat them again on the phone, like of what was said.

1019
00:52:02,547 --> 00:52:05,307
Speaker 27: I think people have seen it. The worst case scenario.

1020
00:52:04,867 --> 00:52:08,107
Speaker 17: Is that's just that's just awful.

1021
00:52:08,587 --> 00:52:10,867
Speaker 27: Surely that's going to be a criminal offense type thing,

1022
00:52:12,547 --> 00:52:15,507
Speaker 27: and I really feel for the referees that are doing

1023
00:52:15,547 --> 00:52:17,627
Speaker 27: a tough job. But do you know what, I don't

1024
00:52:17,627 --> 00:52:21,147
Speaker 27: actually think those sort of messages would be coming from

1025
00:52:21,227 --> 00:52:26,587
Speaker 27: genuine rugby people, people that are embraced in the game,

1026
00:52:26,867 --> 00:52:29,067
Speaker 27: that love rugby for what it is, whether or not

1027
00:52:29,107 --> 00:52:35,227
Speaker 27: that's through the local rugby club volunteers. That these people aren't.

1028
00:52:35,267 --> 00:52:37,507
Speaker 27: They aren't those people. I'll be very surprised they are

1029
00:52:37,507 --> 00:52:40,187
Speaker 27: because the game of rugby and the people that are

1030
00:52:40,227 --> 00:52:43,747
Speaker 27: involved in rugby. Good people are running it and good

1031
00:52:43,747 --> 00:52:45,427
Speaker 27: people are involved in it, So I don't think it's

1032
00:52:45,427 --> 00:52:46,347
Speaker 27: coming from most people.

1033
00:52:46,387 --> 00:52:49,387
Speaker 2: No, one hundred percent agree. One of the other findings

1034
00:52:49,467 --> 00:52:51,947
Speaker 2: of the report was there was clear evidence of a

1035
00:52:51,987 --> 00:52:57,107
Speaker 2: correlation between postmatch comments from players and coaches triggering abuse

1036
00:52:57,107 --> 00:53:00,187
Speaker 2: of match officials by the general public. So how much

1037
00:53:00,227 --> 00:53:03,707
Speaker 2: responsibility do you feel as coaches not to fan the

1038
00:53:03,747 --> 00:53:05,067
Speaker 2: flames of abuse.

1039
00:53:06,427 --> 00:53:09,627
Speaker 27: I think it's a good point. Look, I look, I'll

1040
00:53:09,667 --> 00:53:12,507
Speaker 27: just talk on myself in a personal note. If I've

1041
00:53:12,547 --> 00:53:14,347
Speaker 27: got an issue or I want to have a chat

1042
00:53:14,387 --> 00:53:16,787
Speaker 27: to referee, I'll have a chat to the referee.

1043
00:53:16,907 --> 00:53:17,707
Speaker 21: I'll pride myself.

1044
00:53:17,707 --> 00:53:20,427
Speaker 27: I've never really I've had a crack in public. I

1045
00:53:20,627 --> 00:53:22,667
Speaker 27: like to go and have a chat to the referee.

1046
00:53:22,787 --> 00:53:25,867
Speaker 27: Work with the referee. He's not working for me and

1047
00:53:25,907 --> 00:53:29,027
Speaker 27: I'm not working for him. We're working with each other

1048
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:31,707
Speaker 27: around areas of the game, and I understand there's going

1049
00:53:31,747 --> 00:53:34,307
Speaker 27: to be a mistakes, and I'll be honest, I've had

1050
00:53:34,307 --> 00:53:38,427
Speaker 27: some good, healthy conversations on the phone with refs and

1051
00:53:38,467 --> 00:53:42,027
Speaker 27: officials and the guy's high above trying to sort things out.

1052
00:53:42,067 --> 00:53:45,347
Speaker 27: But when you do it publicly and have a real crack.

1053
00:53:46,507 --> 00:53:49,107
Speaker 27: It can be anigally one and it can fill the flame,

1054
00:53:49,707 --> 00:53:52,907
Speaker 27: I guess, and that's you know, that's where I think

1055
00:53:53,027 --> 00:53:54,507
Speaker 27: everyone can be better and say, look, we've got to

1056
00:53:54,507 --> 00:53:56,827
Speaker 27: have a yarn about this. But on the same side

1057
00:53:56,827 --> 00:54:00,667
Speaker 27: of that, the referees and officials we're all in together.

1058
00:54:00,987 --> 00:54:03,507
Speaker 27: They've got to be approachable. It's got to work both ways.

1059
00:54:03,507 --> 00:54:05,147
Speaker 27: So we can actually do that and have a yarn.

1060
00:54:05,227 --> 00:54:08,867
Speaker 27: It's not going in there absolutely ripping there. That's out

1061
00:54:08,867 --> 00:54:11,587
Speaker 27: of someone. It's having a conversation and going through the

1062
00:54:11,587 --> 00:54:14,427
Speaker 27: facts and then reflection saying, look, we could have done

1063
00:54:14,427 --> 00:54:15,907
Speaker 27: this better, what more can you do?

1064
00:54:16,187 --> 00:54:19,827
Speaker 2: That's Jason yinl Blacks Assistant coach on the issue of

1065
00:54:20,227 --> 00:54:24,187
Speaker 2: referee abuse. The ongoing issue of referee abuse one twenty one.

1066
00:54:24,227 --> 00:54:26,787
Speaker 2: It is back with more in our year in review

1067
00:54:26,867 --> 00:54:29,547
Speaker 2: show in just a moment, just updating you from the MCG.

1068
00:54:29,787 --> 00:54:32,787
Speaker 2: Australia have lost their first wicket of the second innings.

1069
00:54:33,267 --> 00:54:36,027
Speaker 2: Sam Constance has been bobed by just breed Bomra for

1070
00:54:36,107 --> 00:54:39,507
Speaker 2: eight Australia one for twenty three. That's how they sat

1071
00:54:39,547 --> 00:54:42,147
Speaker 2: over there twenty three for one of course, it's how

1072
00:54:42,227 --> 00:54:44,387
Speaker 2: we say it over this side the one of the

1073
00:54:44,427 --> 00:54:47,707
Speaker 2: apupshots exactly the same. Australia have a one hundred and

1074
00:54:47,827 --> 00:54:52,347
Speaker 2: twenty eight run lead. They've been going for about an

1075
00:54:52,387 --> 00:54:54,307
Speaker 2: hour and twenty minutes an earlier start at the MCG.

1076
00:54:54,387 --> 00:54:57,467
Speaker 2: Today Australia twenty three for one in their second innings

1077
00:54:57,467 --> 00:55:00,147
Speaker 2: back with more on our Year in Review show on

1078
00:55:00,147 --> 00:55:01,427
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport right after this.

1079
00:55:01,867 --> 00:55:05,587
Speaker 1: Don't get caught offside eight hundred eighty ten eighty weekends

1080
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1081
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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder news Dogs.

1082
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Speaker 2: NB coming up one twenty five on Weekend Sport and

1083
00:55:14,627 --> 00:55:18,747
Speaker 2: Our Year in Review were in our Rugby segment of

1084
00:55:18,787 --> 00:55:21,947
Speaker 2: the Year in Review and April, Jordi Barrett re signed

1085
00:55:22,307 --> 00:55:26,027
Speaker 2: with New Zealand Rugby until twenty twenty eight. I believe

1086
00:55:26,067 --> 00:55:30,187
Speaker 2: that he is the player with the longest contract right

1087
00:55:30,187 --> 00:55:32,467
Speaker 2: through until beyond the next Rugby World Cup and to

1088
00:55:32,507 --> 00:55:35,107
Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty eight. The unique part of

1089
00:55:35,147 --> 00:55:39,387
Speaker 2: this was a sabbatical with top Irish club Leinster, which

1090
00:55:39,467 --> 00:55:42,347
Speaker 2: Jordy Barrett is currently in the midst of. I spoke

1091
00:55:42,387 --> 00:55:44,907
Speaker 2: with him after he had revealed his future and asked

1092
00:55:44,907 --> 00:55:47,907
Speaker 2: about the sabbatical with Leinster and how it had come about.

1093
00:55:48,147 --> 00:55:51,107
Speaker 6: It's quite an interesting one really. I think eyes for

1094
00:55:51,147 --> 00:55:56,147
Speaker 6: the sabbatical were really heading towards Japan and having all

1095
00:55:56,187 --> 00:55:59,347
Speaker 6: Eastern there. But then I guess Leinster putting off a

1096
00:55:59,427 --> 00:56:03,587
Speaker 6: Ford and basically just the prestige of their club and

1097
00:56:03,627 --> 00:56:06,907
Speaker 6: what they've done in the past and what direction heading

1098
00:56:07,267 --> 00:56:11,987
Speaker 6: in the future really stuck out and excited me. So yeah,

1099
00:56:11,627 --> 00:56:14,387
Speaker 6: it was an offer dived a wee bit deeper into

1100
00:56:14,427 --> 00:56:16,027
Speaker 6: and he had got to the end of it and

1101
00:56:16,147 --> 00:56:18,507
Speaker 6: managed to land to deal with him. So I'm bloody excited.

1102
00:56:18,947 --> 00:56:21,307
Speaker 2: Just expand a bit on that for us. What is

1103
00:56:21,347 --> 00:56:24,627
Speaker 2: it about Leinster and playing an island that was attractive

1104
00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:24,907
Speaker 2: to you?

1105
00:56:26,947 --> 00:56:30,387
Speaker 6: Yeah, they have most of the Irish team which helps

1106
00:56:30,387 --> 00:56:33,107
Speaker 6: her a bloody good side, and Leo Cullen and great

1107
00:56:33,107 --> 00:56:37,747
Speaker 6: coaches Jaqueson and Naba. Tyler Blindell from the Hurricanes is

1108
00:56:37,787 --> 00:56:42,547
Speaker 6: just joining them now. So yeah, I think also going

1109
00:56:42,627 --> 00:56:46,227
Speaker 6: up in the sort of the climbing of my career.

1110
00:56:46,227 --> 00:56:49,227
Speaker 6: I'll be twenty seven going twenty eight at the end.

1111
00:56:49,187 --> 00:56:50,147
Speaker 21: Of the year.

1112
00:56:51,107 --> 00:56:52,667
Speaker 6: I just feel like I should be playing some of

1113
00:56:52,667 --> 00:56:55,947
Speaker 6: my best rugby there and the challenge of playing Champions

1114
00:56:56,027 --> 00:57:00,267
Speaker 6: Cup and UC Finals is something that I'd love to

1115
00:57:00,307 --> 00:57:03,507
Speaker 6: walk towards and I feel like it'll grow my game

1116
00:57:03,627 --> 00:57:11,827
Speaker 6: so more, I guess development perspective going into Ireland and

1117
00:57:12,027 --> 00:57:16,827
Speaker 6: a different team environment, culture, and it's just something new

1118
00:57:16,867 --> 00:57:21,267
Speaker 6: and a great new challenge. So all very positive things

1119
00:57:21,507 --> 00:57:23,187
Speaker 6: when I when I considered the option.

1120
00:57:23,627 --> 00:57:25,947
Speaker 2: When you start thinking about a sabbatical as part of

1121
00:57:25,987 --> 00:57:28,427
Speaker 2: your your rugby journey, I guess we can call it.

1122
00:57:28,707 --> 00:57:33,347
Speaker 2: How keen were you to ensure that you grew your

1123
00:57:33,427 --> 00:57:35,067
Speaker 2: game during your sabbatical.

1124
00:57:36,827 --> 00:57:38,907
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's a bit of a balance. Whether I

1125
00:57:38,947 --> 00:57:41,627
Speaker 6: mean in the past, the sabbaticals have been in place

1126
00:57:41,667 --> 00:57:45,067
Speaker 6: for the all Blacks that have played X amount of tests,

1127
00:57:46,187 --> 00:57:50,467
Speaker 6: and it was almost time just to re energize, change up,

1128
00:57:52,067 --> 00:57:54,627
Speaker 6: just to come back and see yourself better to play,

1129
00:57:56,987 --> 00:58:00,107
Speaker 6: I mean, to add longevity to your career and to

1130
00:58:00,267 --> 00:58:02,267
Speaker 6: add value in the orb that jersey when you come back,

1131
00:58:02,307 --> 00:58:05,667
Speaker 6: and and that was the forefront of my decision as well.

1132
00:58:05,707 --> 00:58:07,267
Speaker 6: But I just saw it was a great opt didn't

1133
00:58:07,267 --> 00:58:12,027
Speaker 6: need to go and go to a place where I

1134
00:58:12,107 --> 00:58:14,387
Speaker 6: believe I'll come back a bit of rigby flayers, So

1135
00:58:14,627 --> 00:58:15,427
Speaker 6: I'm as exciting.

1136
00:58:15,627 --> 00:58:19,507
Speaker 2: That's Jordi Barrett upon his re signing with New Zealand

1137
00:58:19,547 --> 00:58:21,787
Speaker 2: Ruby and his sabbatica with Leinster, which by the looks

1138
00:58:21,787 --> 00:58:24,107
Speaker 2: of things is going pretty well for him. One twenty

1139
00:58:24,147 --> 00:58:28,627
Speaker 2: eight another All Black, well former All Black and former

1140
00:58:28,827 --> 00:58:31,787
Speaker 2: top level coach in fact current top level coach who

1141
00:58:31,867 --> 00:58:34,907
Speaker 2: is plying his trade overseas as Tony Brown. He has

1142
00:58:34,947 --> 00:58:38,587
Speaker 2: spent this year as a tech coach with the spring Box,

1143
00:58:38,627 --> 00:58:42,027
Speaker 2: which is an absolutely plumb job. It's a job which

1144
00:58:42,307 --> 00:58:45,067
Speaker 2: he'll be in through until the next Rugby World Cup

1145
00:58:45,347 --> 00:58:48,387
Speaker 2: and it included, of course this year the rather unique

1146
00:58:48,467 --> 00:58:52,307
Speaker 2: experience for Tony Brown of coaching against the All Blacks.

1147
00:58:52,467 --> 00:58:54,747
Speaker 2: I caught up with him just a month or so

1148
00:58:54,787 --> 00:58:57,067
Speaker 2: ago and asked what that was like coaching against the

1149
00:58:57,187 --> 00:58:58,747
Speaker 2: side he used to play for.

1150
00:58:59,987 --> 00:59:01,147
Speaker 4: It was definitely different.

1151
00:59:02,267 --> 00:59:08,067
Speaker 28: It's something there, especially the Johannesburg match, the All Backs

1152
00:59:08,147 --> 00:59:10,787
Speaker 28: versus South Africa. It was just amazing to be a

1153
00:59:10,787 --> 00:59:13,827
Speaker 28: part of that Test match, even though I was coaching

1154
00:59:13,987 --> 00:59:18,027
Speaker 28: against the All Blacks. I just the reason why I

1155
00:59:18,067 --> 00:59:20,787
Speaker 28: took the South African job was to be coaching on

1156
00:59:20,827 --> 00:59:23,707
Speaker 28: the biggest stage and the biggest test matches, and for

1157
00:59:23,787 --> 00:59:25,707
Speaker 28: me that was probably the biggest one that I've coached

1158
00:59:25,707 --> 00:59:27,787
Speaker 28: in so far, so pretty amazing.

1159
00:59:29,547 --> 00:59:31,227
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's just rugby.

1160
00:59:32,787 --> 00:59:35,307
Speaker 28: You know, one day maybe I'll be coaching the All Blacks,

1161
00:59:35,347 --> 00:59:38,027
Speaker 28: but at the moment I'm just fully committed to South Africa.

1162
00:59:38,427 --> 00:59:39,947
Speaker 2: You're still hard at that ambition.

1163
00:59:41,427 --> 00:59:41,827
Speaker 4: Always.

1164
00:59:42,547 --> 00:59:47,547
Speaker 28: You know, I played for the All Blacks obviously from

1165
00:59:47,547 --> 00:59:51,387
Speaker 28: New Zealand, played for New Zealand Maldi, so you know,

1166
00:59:51,467 --> 00:59:54,427
Speaker 28: one day definitely want to be able to coach the

1167
00:59:54,427 --> 00:59:55,587
Speaker 28: All Blacks at some stage.

1168
00:59:56,827 --> 00:59:58,987
Speaker 2: How do you assess where they are after nine tests

1169
00:59:59,107 --> 01:00:03,707
Speaker 2: of this year under their new coach, Scott Robertson's tough

1170
01:00:03,707 --> 01:00:04,027
Speaker 2: for me.

1171
01:00:05,627 --> 01:00:10,747
Speaker 28: Too to give you a proper opinion. You know, I

1172
01:00:10,787 --> 01:00:13,827
Speaker 28: think this is starting to find their way as a

1173
01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:15,027
Speaker 28: coaching team.

1174
01:00:15,187 --> 01:00:16,227
Speaker 10: The players are.

1175
01:00:16,467 --> 01:00:19,467
Speaker 28: Potentially look starting to believe in the coaches a little

1176
01:00:19,467 --> 01:00:23,427
Speaker 28: bit more. And if if they can get those two

1177
01:00:23,467 --> 01:00:27,027
Speaker 28: things working really well, then you'll see the players being

1178
01:00:27,027 --> 01:00:32,107
Speaker 28: able to I believe, and they'll get better better.

1179
01:00:31,947 --> 01:00:36,627
Speaker 2: Quip and uh, we see the public face of Rassi

1180
01:00:36,667 --> 01:00:40,067
Speaker 2: Erasmus a lot, we might cow you know, we we

1181
01:00:40,187 --> 01:00:42,627
Speaker 2: obviously enjoy seeing him in media situations and that sort

1182
01:00:42,667 --> 01:00:45,027
Speaker 2: of thing. What does he like to to work alongside.

1183
01:00:46,547 --> 01:00:51,347
Speaker 28: He's very good, one hundred percent honest. You know, he's

1184
01:00:52,347 --> 01:00:58,347
Speaker 28: He's got the South African players one hundred percent committed

1185
01:00:58,707 --> 01:01:01,947
Speaker 28: to South African rugby and committed to the country. And

1186
01:01:02,387 --> 01:01:05,227
Speaker 28: you know, especially in professional sport nowadays, it can be

1187
01:01:05,267 --> 01:01:10,627
Speaker 28: easy to be He's selfish in certain times, but he

1188
01:01:10,827 --> 01:01:15,107
Speaker 28: makes sure that everyone is fully committed and everyone understands

1189
01:01:15,147 --> 01:01:18,427
Speaker 28: that if you're not playing, you're still committed to helping

1190
01:01:18,467 --> 01:01:22,267
Speaker 28: the other players prepare. And you know, he just wants

1191
01:01:22,307 --> 01:01:24,067
Speaker 28: to plays. To be one hundred percent honest with him,

1192
01:01:24,547 --> 01:01:28,747
Speaker 28: and he's created this environment where I believe the South

1193
01:01:28,787 --> 01:01:33,187
Speaker 28: African players would literally lie down and die for the team.

1194
01:01:33,347 --> 01:01:36,547
Speaker 2: That's Tony Brown attack coach. Now with the spring Box

1195
01:01:36,867 --> 01:01:39,027
Speaker 2: he would have endured, I'm sure the two Test matches

1196
01:01:39,227 --> 01:01:41,187
Speaker 2: against the All Blacks, even though as he outlined there,

1197
01:01:41,227 --> 01:01:44,667
Speaker 2: it was a rather unusual situation for him coaching against

1198
01:01:44,707 --> 01:01:47,787
Speaker 2: his former team. Two tight test matches in the Republic

1199
01:01:48,027 --> 01:01:51,627
Speaker 2: this year, of course, the first in Johannesburg thirty one

1200
01:01:51,827 --> 01:01:54,907
Speaker 2: twenty seven, the spring Box coming out on top of

1201
01:01:54,947 --> 01:01:56,867
Speaker 2: that one, and then a week later in Cape Town

1202
01:01:57,227 --> 01:02:00,147
Speaker 2: they were victors by eighteen points to twelve ahead of

1203
01:02:00,147 --> 01:02:04,907
Speaker 2: that little bracket of matches, those those two test matches

1204
01:02:04,907 --> 01:02:07,307
Speaker 2: between the All Blacks. In the spring Box, I caught

1205
01:02:07,387 --> 01:02:09,787
Speaker 2: up with one of our greats, former All Blacks captain

1206
01:02:09,867 --> 01:02:13,147
Speaker 2: Sean Fitzpatrick, and spoke to him about his memories of

1207
01:02:13,267 --> 01:02:16,347
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. First of all and winning a series

1208
01:02:16,347 --> 01:02:19,027
Speaker 2: in South Africa with the All Blacks for the first time.

1209
01:02:19,787 --> 01:02:27,387
Speaker 29: Nineteen ninety six was an unbelievable experience. I'm just going

1210
01:02:27,427 --> 01:02:29,587
Speaker 29: to South Africa. Being in South Africa now to watch

1211
01:02:30,187 --> 01:02:34,027
Speaker 29: the play now, I'm just so excited because it's a

1212
01:02:34,027 --> 01:02:38,547
Speaker 29: big challenge and John Hart and his management team and

1213
01:02:38,627 --> 01:02:41,347
Speaker 29: the thirty six players. It was a big touring party

1214
01:02:41,387 --> 01:02:44,627
Speaker 29: in those days to go to South Africa and winnters series.

1215
01:02:45,587 --> 01:02:49,747
Speaker 29: It's as good as anything that I achieved. And I

1216
01:02:49,747 --> 01:02:52,627
Speaker 29: always love the telling the story of Don Clark. A

1217
01:02:52,667 --> 01:02:56,347
Speaker 29: great fallback embraced me in the tunnel loft as Verse

1218
01:02:56,427 --> 01:02:59,947
Speaker 29: felt and said thank you, and he was crying, saying

1219
01:02:59,987 --> 01:03:03,467
Speaker 29: thank you so much for doing something that no other

1220
01:03:03,507 --> 01:03:06,907
Speaker 29: All Black team has done. He said, I can die happy, man.

1221
01:03:07,107 --> 01:03:10,627
Speaker 29: That's what it meant to past All Blacks and that's

1222
01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:14,507
Speaker 29: why I'm so excited for Razor and this current team

1223
01:03:14,747 --> 01:03:16,707
Speaker 29: that they've got a real opportunity over the.

1224
01:03:16,747 --> 01:03:17,507
Speaker 13: Next two weeks.

1225
01:03:17,947 --> 01:03:21,707
Speaker 2: Those images at the end of you sprawled on the

1226
01:03:21,747 --> 01:03:24,547
Speaker 2: grass there, you'd made a tackle in the final play

1227
01:03:24,747 --> 01:03:27,387
Speaker 2: the Horreheree, you had blinded up, you'd won the game.

1228
01:03:27,787 --> 01:03:29,507
Speaker 2: You were just lying there and then got up on

1229
01:03:29,587 --> 01:03:32,907
Speaker 2: all four thumping your fist into the turf. A couple

1230
01:03:32,947 --> 01:03:36,747
Speaker 2: of times those images are burnt into our memories. How

1231
01:03:36,907 --> 01:03:40,307
Speaker 2: empty was was your tank at the end of that

1232
01:03:40,347 --> 01:03:41,147
Speaker 2: particular game.

1233
01:03:42,427 --> 01:03:46,707
Speaker 29: It just it's a very intimulating place to go, Jason,

1234
01:03:47,867 --> 01:03:50,507
Speaker 29: and to go there you have to go with an

1235
01:03:50,547 --> 01:03:54,227
Speaker 29: attitude that we're going to dominate. We're going to dominate

1236
01:03:54,267 --> 01:03:56,827
Speaker 29: the opposition because they like they like to dominate you.

1237
01:03:57,227 --> 01:04:01,827
Speaker 29: And the thing is, Jason, that we're very similar. We

1238
01:04:01,907 --> 01:04:04,547
Speaker 29: have huge respect for each other. We play a very

1239
01:04:04,547 --> 01:04:09,907
Speaker 29: similar game. And when they come to New Zealand, it's

1240
01:04:10,027 --> 01:04:12,587
Speaker 29: a huge challenge for them. But I think going to

1241
01:04:12,627 --> 01:04:15,227
Speaker 29: South Africa and going up up to aldershow to the

1242
01:04:15,307 --> 01:04:19,347
Speaker 29: High Veult, playing in Johannesburg, playing in Victoria, it just

1243
01:04:19,467 --> 01:04:24,867
Speaker 29: adds that extra edge and they are hugely passionate and

1244
01:04:25,107 --> 01:04:26,547
Speaker 29: you know, the All Blacks have been there for a

1245
01:04:26,587 --> 01:04:29,387
Speaker 29: week now and they would have experienced what it's like

1246
01:04:29,427 --> 01:04:32,907
Speaker 29: to be in South Africa playing the spring Box off

1247
01:04:32,947 --> 01:04:38,747
Speaker 29: the field because the fans are relentless day in day out, morning,

1248
01:04:38,867 --> 01:04:42,067
Speaker 29: night time. They're telling you how the spring Boks are

1249
01:04:42,107 --> 01:04:46,507
Speaker 29: going to beat you. And you know, for me, I personally,

1250
01:04:46,547 --> 01:04:50,107
Speaker 29: I loved that because it's you know, as New Zealanders

1251
01:04:50,107 --> 01:04:53,907
Speaker 29: which recently like playing away from home as too much

1252
01:04:54,107 --> 01:04:56,387
Speaker 29: as we love playing at home and to go there

1253
01:04:56,427 --> 01:04:59,227
Speaker 29: and silence the crowd, and that's what this current team

1254
01:04:59,267 --> 01:05:00,747
Speaker 29: is going to have to do. It's going to have

1255
01:05:00,787 --> 01:05:04,907
Speaker 29: to take them on physically, you know, historically and currently

1256
01:05:05,187 --> 01:05:08,867
Speaker 29: they are a big team, bigger than us. We know that,

1257
01:05:10,547 --> 01:05:13,427
Speaker 29: but it doesn't mean that we can't we can't get

1258
01:05:13,427 --> 01:05:14,987
Speaker 29: on top of them as soon as they get on

1259
01:05:14,987 --> 01:05:16,547
Speaker 29: top of and that's what they've been doing over the

1260
01:05:16,627 --> 01:05:19,907
Speaker 29: last few years. They are just bullying teams. You know,

1261
01:05:19,947 --> 01:05:24,667
Speaker 29: they bring on this this reserve bench that just dominates

1262
01:05:24,947 --> 01:05:28,027
Speaker 29: a game after sixty minutes. So you know, it's a

1263
01:05:28,027 --> 01:05:30,227
Speaker 29: big effort. And you know, I look at the team

1264
01:05:30,267 --> 01:05:33,667
Speaker 29: that that that the All Blacks are picked and it's

1265
01:05:33,707 --> 01:05:36,107
Speaker 29: a barring a couple of a couple of positions it's

1266
01:05:36,147 --> 01:05:41,267
Speaker 29: a hugely experienced team and to have stam Caine there,

1267
01:05:42,667 --> 01:05:45,507
Speaker 29: there's another added bonus that I'm sure Raiser. You know,

1268
01:05:45,547 --> 01:05:48,147
Speaker 29: I had had had that in the plans to play

1269
01:05:48,307 --> 01:05:49,187
Speaker 29: play this test match.

1270
01:05:49,747 --> 01:05:53,187
Speaker 2: What about playing at altitude chorn it? How different was

1271
01:05:53,227 --> 01:05:56,587
Speaker 2: it playing in the likes of Johannesburg and Pretoria compared

1272
01:05:56,627 --> 01:05:59,507
Speaker 2: to matches in Caketown and Durban for example.

1273
01:06:00,827 --> 01:06:05,307
Speaker 29: It just it burns you a bit, and it just

1274
01:06:05,827 --> 01:06:07,587
Speaker 29: you know, I think this current team is you know,

1275
01:06:07,747 --> 01:06:10,707
Speaker 29: admittedly they're not playing super rugby over there like they

1276
01:06:10,747 --> 01:06:12,867
Speaker 29: had been in the past, but most of this team

1277
01:06:12,907 --> 01:06:15,867
Speaker 29: would have experienced playing at altitude and you know, they've

1278
01:06:15,867 --> 01:06:18,827
Speaker 29: been there over seven days now, and I think that's

1279
01:06:18,867 --> 01:06:20,987
Speaker 29: the sort of the number that you know, you sort

1280
01:06:21,027 --> 01:06:28,027
Speaker 29: of acclimatized to the altitude and you know, it's it's

1281
01:06:28,147 --> 01:06:32,067
Speaker 29: it just it hurts that that's all part of that's

1282
01:06:32,107 --> 01:06:35,747
Speaker 29: all part of the challenge and and you just got

1283
01:06:35,747 --> 01:06:38,667
Speaker 29: to realize that it's the same for them. You know

1284
01:06:38,707 --> 01:06:40,747
Speaker 29: a lot of those players, a lot of them come

1285
01:06:40,787 --> 01:06:45,587
Speaker 29: from Cape Town or Durban, so you know it's it's

1286
01:06:45,587 --> 01:06:49,307
Speaker 29: an even playing field, and you know, you can't use

1287
01:06:49,347 --> 01:06:50,267
Speaker 29: that as an excuse.

1288
01:06:50,587 --> 01:06:52,187
Speaker 13: You know, we've got a we've got a very good bench.

1289
01:06:54,467 --> 01:06:56,667
Speaker 29: So I'm i'm I'm very relaxed playing at altitude and

1290
01:06:57,147 --> 01:07:00,907
Speaker 29: Alice Park is I so liked to call it Alice Parks.

1291
01:07:00,907 --> 01:07:06,627
Speaker 29: Alice Park, that's what what was historically named. And it's

1292
01:07:06,627 --> 01:07:09,587
Speaker 29: a cauldron. You know, there's only there's only sixty two

1293
01:07:09,707 --> 01:07:12,307
Speaker 29: thousand people. That feels as though there's one hundred thousand

1294
01:07:12,307 --> 01:07:15,667
Speaker 29: people on there, and that's intimidating.

1295
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Speaker 13: So you've got to deal with that.

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Speaker 29: And you know, as I'm sure Raises telling them, you've

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Speaker 29: got to embrace, embrace the challenge and do not let

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Speaker 29: them get on top.

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Speaker 2: Sean Sean Fitzpatrick giving us some insight into playing in

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Speaker 2: South Africa just ahead of the Rugby Championship tests over there,

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Speaker 2: both narrow losses for the All Blacks in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: twenty three away from two. Our year in review show

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Speaker 2: continues after this.

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Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call Oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty weekends forward with Jason Payne and GJ.

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Speaker 2: One forty enjoying a bit of a wander back over

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Speaker 2: the last three hundred and sixty odd days. It's our

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Speaker 2: year in review show here on Weekend Sport. Final piece

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Speaker 2: of rugby content for you was around the proposal of

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Speaker 2: the twenty minute red card. This continues to bubble away

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01:08:12,347 --> 01:08:15,707
Speaker 2: and bubble away, and their are arguments on both sides.

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Speaker 2: Everybody down this part of the world seems to want it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody up in the North seems to not want it.

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out on twenty twenty five, or

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Speaker 2: maybe we won't whether there'll be a global implementation of

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01:08:27,627 --> 01:08:30,947
Speaker 2: the twenty minute red card. During the year when this

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01:08:31,067 --> 01:08:33,547
Speaker 2: issue was bubbling along, I spoke to former top referee

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Speaker 2: Nigel Owens to get his thoughts on the idea of

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Speaker 2: a twenty minute red card.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think you have to take a step back

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Speaker 17: to svone. I'm trying to understand why people are calling

1323
01:08:44,067 --> 01:08:46,667
Speaker 17: for this, why it's been in place of Rugby Championship,

1324
01:08:47,147 --> 01:08:52,027
Speaker 17: and why he's coming in inter trial globally. And the

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Speaker 17: issue is, which is an understandable reason, is a lot

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Speaker 17: of people are getting frustrated with players being sent off

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01:08:58,547 --> 01:09:00,067
Speaker 17: early on in the game and then it feel that

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Speaker 17: the game is is boked when you have fourteen against

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01:09:03,387 --> 01:09:06,627
Speaker 17: fifteen or thirteen against fourteen, and he percent respeaches thirteen

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Speaker 17: against fifteen. So that's the reason why this has been

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Speaker 17: brought in. Now, the concerns and the worry that I

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01:09:13,027 --> 01:09:16,747
Speaker 17: have is it's not going to deal with the actual issues,

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Speaker 17: and the actual issues are the player safety. When we

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01:09:19,947 --> 01:09:24,067
Speaker 17: are still having a lot of head collisions, we're still

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Speaker 17: having players making up right tackles, shoulder making contact with

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Speaker 17: the head. We're still having really reckless, dangerous clearouts in

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Speaker 17: the contact area. We still have in US. We haven't

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Speaker 17: seen a change of player behavior despite the red cards. Now,

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Speaker 17: if you go back quite a few years, you remember

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Speaker 17: a lot of issues with contact in the air. Then

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Speaker 17: we have a lot of issues with spear tackling, and

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Speaker 17: then what happened. The referees went hard, it was a

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Speaker 17: red card and we change player behavior. But that hasn't

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Speaker 17: happened this time. And the issue is now we're still

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01:09:59,307 --> 01:10:02,347
Speaker 17: getting red cards and therefore a lot of people have

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01:10:02,387 --> 01:10:05,067
Speaker 17: been calling in for a twenty minute red card so

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Speaker 17: that it doesn't spoil the game. Now, the issue that

1348
01:10:07,507 --> 01:10:10,707
Speaker 17: I have is this a red card in rugby should

1349
01:10:10,827 --> 01:10:16,347
Speaker 17: only be for an act of total thuggery or total recklessness,

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Speaker 17: and what I mean by that is a player's defenses

1351
01:10:18,987 --> 01:10:24,467
Speaker 17: on the ground. And then you got charging in shoulder first,

1352
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Speaker 17: head first, split into the player, contact with the head.

1353
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Speaker 17: This reckless, it's really dangerous. You don't have any care

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Speaker 17: whatsoever about the player's safety who you are charging into.

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Speaker 17: That should be a red card, and then you should

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Speaker 17: not be replaced. The issue that I have then, and

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Speaker 17: I think this is the issue that they're not dealing with,

1358
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Speaker 17: is if you have a player and we've seen it,

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Speaker 17: who is unlucky to be sent off. It's accidental, the

1360
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Speaker 17: dynamics of the game of change this last second and

1361
01:10:53,707 --> 01:10:56,507
Speaker 17: every's gonna that's a bit tough, that's a bit harsh.

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Speaker 17: Then they shouldn't be a red card. So what I

1363
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Speaker 17: feel they should be doing is actually dealing with the

1364
01:11:02,267 --> 01:11:07,227
Speaker 17: issue itself, act of thuggery, active recklessness where you've got

1365
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Speaker 17: no concern about the player's safety that I'm sorry, a

1366
01:11:10,227 --> 01:11:12,827
Speaker 17: red card, you off and you stay off. And if

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01:11:12,867 --> 01:11:17,907
Speaker 17: then it's an issue where it's it's carelessness, it's accidental.

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Speaker 17: You try to do everything right, but the movement of

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Speaker 17: the game, the players affective thing in the last second

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01:11:24,187 --> 01:11:26,867
Speaker 17: then that shouldn't even be a red card. So what

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Speaker 17: I feel is happening is it's just papering over the

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Speaker 17: cracks to try and keep everybody happy, and in the

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Speaker 17: long run, you're not going to keep everybody happy because

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Speaker 17: you're still going to see these red cards which are harsh,

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Speaker 17: and you're also then going to see a lot of

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01:11:42,027 --> 01:11:44,267
Speaker 17: people and there's a lot of concern about then we

1377
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Speaker 17: are not then being strong enough with the deterrent to

1378
01:11:47,827 --> 01:11:52,827
Speaker 17: change players behavior and getting rid of this needless, dangerous,

1379
01:11:52,947 --> 01:11:57,707
Speaker 17: reckless high tackles or upright tackles or clear out. So

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Speaker 17: this is understandable why people are calling for it, but

1381
01:12:01,867 --> 01:12:04,827
Speaker 17: my concern is they're not actually dealing with the co

1382
01:12:05,027 --> 01:12:07,467
Speaker 17: issue itself, and that's why not a big fun of

1383
01:12:07,507 --> 01:12:11,067
Speaker 17: the twenty minute red card. I'd rather see them bring

1384
01:12:11,067 --> 01:12:15,107
Speaker 17: it in a red card total recklessness total February. If

1385
01:12:15,147 --> 01:12:17,827
Speaker 17: anything is accidental, you're unlucky, then it shouldn't be a

1386
01:12:17,827 --> 01:12:21,107
Speaker 17: red card in the first place. And then we look

1387
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Speaker 17: after the player safety, and people who are sent off

1388
01:12:24,187 --> 01:12:26,547
Speaker 17: are sent off because they totally deserve to be sent

1389
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Speaker 17: off and not because of an accidental dynamic of the game.

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Speaker 2: There you go Nigel Owens with some common sense around

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Speaker 2: not just the twenty minute red card, but red cards

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Speaker 2: full stop. Enjoyed chatting to Nigel Owens this year on

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport as well. One forty five. Perhaps the biggest

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Speaker 2: sports story of the year. Look, I know there's a

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Speaker 2: bit of competition, but I think it certainly warrants a

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Speaker 2: place in the conversation. Was the news just a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago that Liam Lawson will drive Formula One

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Speaker 2: full time in twenty twenty five alongside Max for Stepping

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Speaker 2: for Red Bull Racing. This was something which had been

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Speaker 2: I guess predicted a week way out and Liam Lawson

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Speaker 2: seemed as time went on to be the guy who

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Speaker 2: was going to partner for Stapping when they made a

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Speaker 2: change at the top of Red Bull. It has happened

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty five is going to be absolutely intriguing

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01:13:21,707 --> 01:13:26,667
Speaker 2: and terrific watching Formula One with Liam Lawson in a

1406
01:13:26,707 --> 01:13:30,907
Speaker 2: full time drive. He spoke to media after the decision

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01:13:30,987 --> 01:13:34,267
Speaker 2: had been unveiled and I was asked first of all

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Speaker 2: whether all the toil and hard work had been worth it.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, I think definitely, as much as obviously at times

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01:13:41,627 --> 01:13:45,507
Speaker 30: it's it feels like it's not. It's been a long

1411
01:13:45,627 --> 01:13:48,827
Speaker 30: journey and the last twelve months have definitely been the hardest.

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01:13:50,267 --> 01:13:52,227
Speaker 13: Obviously, before, if one, I never.

1413
01:13:52,147 --> 01:13:54,067
Speaker 30: Knew what it would be like, but then to get

1414
01:13:54,067 --> 01:13:57,627
Speaker 30: the opportunity to drive gave me a complete perspective of

1415
01:13:57,667 --> 01:13:59,707
Speaker 30: what it's like. And then to step back as reserve

1416
01:13:59,747 --> 01:14:05,027
Speaker 30: and basically spectate and wait for that opportunity was really tough.

1417
01:14:05,107 --> 01:14:08,227
Speaker 13: So I think it's been a tough twelve months.

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Speaker 30: But I always said to myself that at the point

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Speaker 30: that I was struggling with it, I always said to myself,

1420
01:14:13,987 --> 01:14:15,947
Speaker 30: if I, you know, if I got to the end

1421
01:14:15,987 --> 01:14:18,227
Speaker 30: of the year and you know, and I didn't get

1422
01:14:18,227 --> 01:14:22,467
Speaker 30: a seat, and I looked back and saw a bunch

1423
01:14:22,507 --> 01:14:24,187
Speaker 30: of different things I could have possibly done that, I

1424
01:14:24,227 --> 01:14:28,747
Speaker 30: would obviously never forget myself. So obviously, sitting here now,

1425
01:14:29,107 --> 01:14:31,107
Speaker 30: everything is is definitely worth it.

1426
01:14:31,267 --> 01:14:34,307
Speaker 2: What's Liam Lawson's mindset on driving in the same team

1427
01:14:34,347 --> 01:14:37,867
Speaker 2: as full time defending world champion Max for Steppen.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's.

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01:14:40,427 --> 01:14:44,587
Speaker 30: I'm definitely not working against them, so it's obviously an

1430
01:14:44,627 --> 01:14:47,947
Speaker 30: opportunity to be working alongside it. The biggest opportunity for

1431
01:14:47,987 --> 01:14:51,987
Speaker 30: me is the fact that he's won the last four championships,

1432
01:14:51,987 --> 01:14:54,347
Speaker 30: he's the best in the world right now. He's been

1433
01:14:54,347 --> 01:14:59,387
Speaker 30: in this team for.

1434
01:14:57,787 --> 01:14:58,467
Speaker 13: A long time.

1435
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:00,427
Speaker 30: I don't know how long now, maybe it's close to

1436
01:15:00,467 --> 01:15:05,627
Speaker 30: ten years, and so he knows you know everything about

1437
01:15:05,667 --> 01:15:08,827
Speaker 30: the car, you know thing about the team, and he'll

1438
01:15:08,867 --> 01:15:11,747
Speaker 30: always be pushing basically the absolute limits. And for me

1439
01:15:11,787 --> 01:15:14,547
Speaker 30: to be able to work alongside that, I get a

1440
01:15:14,587 --> 01:15:16,667
Speaker 30: lot more learning. I get probably the most learning I

1441
01:15:16,667 --> 01:15:19,147
Speaker 30: could possibly get out of it. So for me, it's

1442
01:15:19,147 --> 01:15:24,227
Speaker 30: an opportunity to basically become a bit of driver and

1443
01:15:24,227 --> 01:15:26,787
Speaker 30: and then obviously work with with the best team in

1444
01:15:26,827 --> 01:15:30,787
Speaker 30: Formula One and and have an opportunity to to fight

1445
01:15:30,827 --> 01:15:31,267
Speaker 30: at the front.

1446
01:15:31,587 --> 01:15:35,427
Speaker 2: Does Liam Lawson feel fully prepared for everything that comes

1447
01:15:35,467 --> 01:15:38,147
Speaker 2: with being a full time Formula One driver?

1448
01:15:38,667 --> 01:15:40,667
Speaker 13: That's I think it's part of part of being a

1449
01:15:40,707 --> 01:15:41,387
Speaker 13: Formal one driver.

1450
01:15:41,427 --> 01:15:45,467
Speaker 30: I think obviously you're never going to have everybody like

1451
01:15:45,547 --> 01:15:47,707
Speaker 30: you and and you know, I think for me, I've

1452
01:15:47,787 --> 01:15:51,947
Speaker 30: obviously had had experience of of coming into Formula One

1453
01:15:51,947 --> 01:15:54,907
Speaker 30: and the attention that comes with it, and you.

1454
01:15:54,867 --> 01:15:57,387
Speaker 13: Know, for me, I'm focused on on my on my

1455
01:15:57,507 --> 01:16:01,547
Speaker 13: job and on that side of it.

1456
01:16:01,587 --> 01:16:04,787
Speaker 30: I think everyone can have their own opinion and and

1457
01:16:04,787 --> 01:16:08,747
Speaker 30: and that's you know, free free to them. So it's

1458
01:16:08,787 --> 01:16:11,107
Speaker 30: not something that really bothers me. But obviously it's something

1459
01:16:11,147 --> 01:16:13,507
Speaker 30: that's I've sort of had a taste of and I'm

1460
01:16:13,507 --> 01:16:17,707
Speaker 30: definitely gonna gonna probably experience coming into into my first

1461
01:16:17,707 --> 01:16:18,267
Speaker 30: full season.

1462
01:16:18,427 --> 01:16:21,747
Speaker 2: Who is it that Liam Lawson takes his advice from.

1463
01:16:22,787 --> 01:16:23,667
Speaker 13: I would say.

1464
01:16:25,707 --> 01:16:29,267
Speaker 30: I think over the years I've learned, especially getting closer to.

1465
01:16:28,547 --> 01:16:31,547
Speaker 13: To Formula one and stepping into Formula one is.

1466
01:16:33,427 --> 01:16:37,547
Speaker 30: Although there's many amazing people that have you know, I've

1467
01:16:37,667 --> 01:16:41,187
Speaker 30: met and got to got to know over the years,

1468
01:16:42,827 --> 01:16:44,867
Speaker 30: and a lot more people sort of come into your

1469
01:16:44,987 --> 01:16:47,587
Speaker 30: sort of circle or to your group or almost want to.

1470
01:16:47,667 --> 01:16:50,267
Speaker 30: I think for me, it's it's speaking to people that

1471
01:16:50,307 --> 01:16:52,867
Speaker 30: have always been there for me. And obviously that starts

1472
01:16:52,867 --> 01:16:54,987
Speaker 30: from my family, so talking to my dad, He's been

1473
01:16:55,027 --> 01:16:57,107
Speaker 30: somebody that I've taken a lot of advice from since

1474
01:16:57,147 --> 01:17:00,547
Speaker 30: I was a kid. And it's yeah, people that are

1475
01:17:00,587 --> 01:17:05,627
Speaker 30: very close to me, not necessarily just in from drivers

1476
01:17:05,627 --> 01:17:08,147
Speaker 30: in the sport, but but yeah, people that are that

1477
01:17:08,187 --> 01:17:10,507
Speaker 30: I've met over the years, who I can who I

1478
01:17:10,507 --> 01:17:13,627
Speaker 30: can trust coming into it into a moment like this,

1479
01:17:15,227 --> 01:17:17,307
Speaker 30: and also within you know, within Rebel, there's people in

1480
01:17:17,347 --> 01:17:20,187
Speaker 30: the team that obviously have experienced these kind of moments

1481
01:17:20,227 --> 01:17:20,747
Speaker 30: in the past.

1482
01:17:22,107 --> 01:17:24,707
Speaker 13: And then there's you know, Christian and Helmets and.

1483
01:17:24,507 --> 01:17:27,107
Speaker 30: And obviously the other guys who are trusting me with

1484
01:17:27,107 --> 01:17:32,507
Speaker 30: a role like this, So speaking to them and you know,

1485
01:17:32,507 --> 01:17:35,507
Speaker 30: knowing that they trust me to do this, that people,

1486
01:17:35,547 --> 01:17:38,267
Speaker 30: that's that, Yeah, I would I would definitely take advice

1487
01:17:38,307 --> 01:17:39,467
Speaker 30: from for for for this.

1488
01:17:39,827 --> 01:17:43,107
Speaker 2: What gives Liam Lawson the confidence that he can succeed

1489
01:17:43,507 --> 01:17:46,107
Speaker 2: in in a full time Formula One seat.

1490
01:17:46,707 --> 01:17:48,947
Speaker 30: I think I just look at it like any other

1491
01:17:49,787 --> 01:17:54,227
Speaker 30: like any other seasonal or you know, role going into it.

1492
01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:58,547
Speaker 30: I think at any point in any professional athlete, whether

1493
01:17:58,587 --> 01:18:01,027
Speaker 30: you're a boxer or a driver, or a tennis player

1494
01:18:01,107 --> 01:18:03,507
Speaker 30: or whatever you are, if you're going into a match

1495
01:18:03,707 --> 01:18:06,187
Speaker 30: or a game or whatever and you're thinking that's some

1496
01:18:06,387 --> 01:18:08,107
Speaker 30: but he might be better than you, or that somebody

1497
01:18:08,147 --> 01:18:09,827
Speaker 30: might have the upper handle that you're not good enough,

1498
01:18:10,707 --> 01:18:12,667
Speaker 30: then you might as well not really turn up. So

1499
01:18:13,107 --> 01:18:15,547
Speaker 30: it's something that I think us as racing drivers, we

1500
01:18:15,627 --> 01:18:18,187
Speaker 30: have to sort of have that mindset. I'm lucky that

1501
01:18:18,227 --> 01:18:21,267
Speaker 30: I've had it since I was a kid, and it's

1502
01:18:21,267 --> 01:18:24,067
Speaker 30: stuck with me all the way through and although I'm

1503
01:18:24,067 --> 01:18:26,827
Speaker 30: not expecting to not expected to go in there and

1504
01:18:26,867 --> 01:18:31,427
Speaker 30: beat him, but you know, I obviously have a level

1505
01:18:31,467 --> 01:18:34,027
Speaker 30: of confidence and sort of my ability. It's what's got

1506
01:18:34,107 --> 01:18:37,587
Speaker 30: me to this point. And for me, it's more just

1507
01:18:37,627 --> 01:18:39,227
Speaker 30: exciting for the opportunity.

1508
01:18:39,267 --> 01:18:39,467
Speaker 6: I think.

1509
01:18:39,507 --> 01:18:41,387
Speaker 30: It's not I'm a really thinking so much about whether

1510
01:18:41,427 --> 01:18:43,547
Speaker 30: I can do the job. It's more I'm excited to

1511
01:18:44,227 --> 01:18:47,787
Speaker 30: be in this position, to have an opportunity to work

1512
01:18:47,787 --> 01:18:50,627
Speaker 30: with the best team in Formula One, against the best

1513
01:18:50,667 --> 01:18:53,667
Speaker 30: guy and learn from all of that and become, you know,

1514
01:18:53,707 --> 01:18:55,547
Speaker 30: the best basically driver that I can become.

1515
01:18:55,707 --> 01:18:57,707
Speaker 2: And finally from Liam Lawson when he looks a hit

1516
01:18:57,707 --> 01:18:59,587
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty five and all of the Grand Prix

1517
01:18:59,627 --> 01:19:02,267
Speaker 2: events he's going to be involved, and are there any

1518
01:19:02,307 --> 01:19:06,067
Speaker 2: in particular he's circled on the calendar or is particularly

1519
01:19:06,067 --> 01:19:06,867
Speaker 2: looking forward to.

1520
01:19:09,547 --> 01:19:10,587
Speaker 13: Melbourne is a big one.

1521
01:19:10,707 --> 01:19:13,387
Speaker 30: Honestly, there's a lot, like you know, from when I

1522
01:19:13,427 --> 01:19:14,907
Speaker 30: was a kid, there's a lot of tracks that are

1523
01:19:14,907 --> 01:19:16,787
Speaker 30: on the on the calendar stool I that I raced

1524
01:19:16,827 --> 01:19:21,147
Speaker 30: as that I raced on and Melbourne's one that's close

1525
01:19:21,187 --> 01:19:23,987
Speaker 30: to home. Obviously, one day I'd love to get New

1526
01:19:24,067 --> 01:19:26,787
Speaker 30: Zealand Grand Prix in there, but to have Melbourne it's

1527
01:19:26,827 --> 01:19:29,427
Speaker 30: it's very very close and I know the support there

1528
01:19:29,547 --> 01:19:33,587
Speaker 30: from home and from Australia will be very cool. Other

1529
01:19:33,667 --> 01:19:37,507
Speaker 30: than that, there's there's obviously minorco even some of the

1530
01:19:37,507 --> 01:19:39,187
Speaker 30: ones I've already done us in Singapore.

1531
01:19:39,307 --> 01:19:41,747
Speaker 13: Tracks like that are super exciting.

1532
01:19:43,587 --> 01:19:46,707
Speaker 30: So yeah, there's it's a it's a obvious a very

1533
01:19:46,707 --> 01:19:49,667
Speaker 30: full full calendar with a lot of tracks that that's

1534
01:19:49,747 --> 01:19:50,827
Speaker 30: I'm looking forward to driving on.

1535
01:19:51,067 --> 01:19:53,387
Speaker 2: That is Liam Lawson. We are looking very much forward

1536
01:19:53,427 --> 01:19:55,667
Speaker 2: to watching him drive all those tracks in twenty twenty

1537
01:19:55,707 --> 01:19:58,667
Speaker 2: five and he embarks on his first year as a

1538
01:19:58,667 --> 01:20:01,947
Speaker 2: full time driver in Formula One. Absolutely one to keep

1539
01:20:01,987 --> 01:20:05,147
Speaker 2: an eye on in twenty twenty five. Going to certainly

1540
01:20:05,347 --> 01:20:07,227
Speaker 2: make sure we cover that all for you on Weekend

1541
01:20:07,307 --> 01:20:10,187
Speaker 2: Sport when the new year rolls around seven and a

1542
01:20:10,227 --> 01:20:14,387
Speaker 2: half away from two news talks.

1543
01:20:11,907 --> 01:20:18,027
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the Epic Fails Weekend

1544
01:20:18,067 --> 01:20:21,267
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason yin News Talk ZB.

1545
01:20:21,667 --> 01:20:24,707
Speaker 2: Four minutes to two after two o'clock, our year in

1546
01:20:24,827 --> 01:20:27,067
Speaker 2: review continues one more hours. We'll look back at some

1547
01:20:27,107 --> 01:20:29,627
Speaker 2: of the big moments of the year, bit of variety

1548
01:20:29,667 --> 01:20:32,867
Speaker 2: for you after two, including I think probably the most

1549
01:20:32,867 --> 01:20:39,947
Speaker 2: extraordinary day we had in twenty twenty four. In fact,

1550
01:20:39,987 --> 01:20:44,107
Speaker 2: the whole weekend really sale GP in christ Church, where

1551
01:20:44,107 --> 01:20:46,947
Speaker 2: you'll remember that Day one was completely abandoned because of

1552
01:20:46,987 --> 01:20:50,227
Speaker 2: a dolphin on the race course. Sir Russell Coots sale

1553
01:20:50,227 --> 01:20:54,067
Speaker 2: GP Boss sat down with me after midday the next

1554
01:20:54,147 --> 01:20:59,067
Speaker 2: day and let Loose will remind you of that after

1555
01:20:59,147 --> 01:21:02,267
Speaker 2: two o'clock. Also our big cricketing feats of the year,

1556
01:21:02,427 --> 01:21:05,787
Speaker 2: the White Ferns winning the T twenty World Cup, the

1557
01:21:05,787 --> 01:21:10,267
Speaker 2: black Caps sweeping India in a series, Lulu Sun's run

1558
01:21:10,307 --> 01:21:13,707
Speaker 2: to the Wimbledon quarter finals, and the arrival of the

1559
01:21:13,787 --> 01:21:16,507
Speaker 2: new kids on the A League block. Auckland FC will

1560
01:21:16,507 --> 01:21:18,907
Speaker 2: cover all of that off after two.

1561
01:21:19,747 --> 01:21:22,667
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1562
01:21:23,067 --> 01:21:26,947
Speaker 1: and after fields, it's all on Weekend Sport with Jason

1563
01:21:27,067 --> 01:21:31,227
Speaker 1: Fade on your home of Sport New Talks.

1564
01:21:33,267 --> 01:21:35,867
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome into the final hour of Weekend Sports

1565
01:21:35,867 --> 01:21:38,667
Speaker 2: Summer Afternoons after three with Adam Cooper and the Chair

1566
01:21:38,787 --> 01:21:43,067
Speaker 2: to take you through the rest of this Sunday. Before that, though,

1567
01:21:43,107 --> 01:21:46,027
Speaker 2: we continue our year in review show the last hour

1568
01:21:46,227 --> 01:21:47,627
Speaker 2: of it as we look back on some of the

1569
01:21:47,627 --> 01:21:50,627
Speaker 2: big sports stories, our favorite guests and some of the

1570
01:21:51,467 --> 01:21:54,467
Speaker 2: more talked about issues of twenty twenty four in a

1571
01:21:54,507 --> 01:21:58,507
Speaker 2: sporting sense. Starting shortly with what I think was probably

1572
01:21:58,547 --> 01:22:03,067
Speaker 2: the most um I was going to say controversial piece

1573
01:22:03,107 --> 01:22:04,867
Speaker 2: of radio of the year. I'm not sure it was

1574
01:22:04,867 --> 01:22:07,267
Speaker 2: that controversial. I think a lot of people agreed with

1575
01:22:08,067 --> 01:22:11,507
Speaker 2: what Sir Russell Coots said on day two of sale

1576
01:22:11,507 --> 01:22:15,147
Speaker 2: GP and christ Church, but certainly an extraordinary piece of

1577
01:22:15,547 --> 01:22:18,507
Speaker 2: radio to be involved. And that's coming up. Just updating

1578
01:22:18,547 --> 01:22:23,267
Speaker 2: you from the Boxing Day Test where Australia are in

1579
01:22:23,307 --> 01:22:27,507
Speaker 2: their second innings against India and I think they've just

1580
01:22:27,547 --> 01:22:31,787
Speaker 2: gone to lunch, not quite gone to lunch. They are

1581
01:22:31,787 --> 01:22:34,027
Speaker 2: forty three for two Australia in their second innings, forty

1582
01:22:34,027 --> 01:22:37,027
Speaker 2: three for two. Osmond Kawaja has just been dismissed for

1583
01:22:37,027 --> 01:22:39,427
Speaker 2: twenty one. So Australia with a lead of one hundred

1584
01:22:39,467 --> 01:22:42,587
Speaker 2: and forty eight runs and eight second innings wickets in hand.

1585
01:22:42,987 --> 01:22:44,787
Speaker 2: Just keeping half an eye on this in the studio,

1586
01:22:45,347 --> 01:22:50,787
Speaker 2: and the Australian batsmen are being absolutely worked over by

1587
01:22:51,307 --> 01:22:57,107
Speaker 2: Jaspriek Boomrah and Mohammad Sarraj they are jumping all over

1588
01:22:57,147 --> 01:23:02,147
Speaker 2: the place. Sarraj got the wicket of Kuwaja and utterly

1589
01:23:02,227 --> 01:23:04,507
Speaker 2: deserved it. Every time I look up it seems as

1590
01:23:04,507 --> 01:23:07,147
Speaker 2: though the balls beating the batter it's bouncing off a

1591
01:23:07,147 --> 01:23:11,307
Speaker 2: part of the Australian batsman's bodies. It's tough going out there.

1592
01:23:11,867 --> 01:23:15,667
Speaker 2: The Marus Labasha and Steve Smith together at the moment. Smith,

1593
01:23:15,667 --> 01:23:18,907
Speaker 2: of course a century maker in the first innings, looking

1594
01:23:18,947 --> 01:23:22,707
Speaker 2: to extend Australia's lead and perhaps force of results on

1595
01:23:22,747 --> 01:23:25,827
Speaker 2: the fifth day of the Boxing Day Test tomorrow. But

1596
01:23:25,947 --> 01:23:29,507
Speaker 2: it is the year in review and as mentioned in March,

1597
01:23:29,867 --> 01:23:33,187
Speaker 2: we broadcast the show live from Littleton. For the New

1598
01:23:33,307 --> 01:23:37,107
Speaker 2: Zealand leg of Sale GP. Massive crowds turned up on

1599
01:23:37,147 --> 01:23:42,507
Speaker 2: the Saturday, the first day of scheduled racing. Unfortunately, no

1600
01:23:42,667 --> 01:23:46,227
Speaker 2: racing on day one due to the presence of what

1601
01:23:46,347 --> 01:23:50,387
Speaker 2: we later discovered to be a single dolphin in the

1602
01:23:50,467 --> 01:23:54,507
Speaker 2: race course area. It caused the entire days racing to

1603
01:23:54,547 --> 01:23:59,627
Speaker 2: be abandoned. It caused massive controversy and plenty of angst

1604
01:24:00,067 --> 01:24:02,107
Speaker 2: ahead of the second day of racing. This was the

1605
01:24:02,227 --> 01:24:07,107
Speaker 2: Sunday Sale GP boss Sir Russell Coots join me in

1606
01:24:07,187 --> 01:24:11,947
Speaker 2: our zb studio which we set up in Littleton and

1607
01:24:12,587 --> 01:24:15,987
Speaker 2: basically expressed his frustration with the whole thing.

1608
01:24:16,467 --> 01:24:19,707
Speaker 31: Sole GP operates all over the world and no doubt

1609
01:24:19,787 --> 01:24:22,867
Speaker 31: there are marine mammals in the water and all the

1610
01:24:22,987 --> 01:24:27,227
Speaker 31: locations that we race, and to date we've never had

1611
01:24:27,267 --> 01:24:30,747
Speaker 31: an incident in thirty five events. Our people and our

1612
01:24:30,787 --> 01:24:36,707
Speaker 31: athletes cared deeply about the marine environment, marine conservation and

1613
01:24:36,987 --> 01:24:38,027
Speaker 31: the overall environment.

1614
01:24:38,347 --> 01:24:40,347
Speaker 12: In addition to sole GP's.

1615
01:24:39,867 --> 01:24:45,787
Speaker 31: Normal marine mammal protocols, SLEGP have had this extreme marine

1616
01:24:45,827 --> 01:24:53,907
Speaker 31: mammal mandatory protocol forced upon it demanded by Department of Conservation.

1617
01:24:54,427 --> 01:24:58,987
Speaker 31: He can and Natifecki for this event. Otherwise SALGP would

1618
01:24:59,067 --> 01:25:03,267
Speaker 31: not be permitted to race here in Littleton. Other harbor users,

1619
01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:09,027
Speaker 31: including commercial users, are not subjected to such protocols. In particular,

1620
01:25:09,307 --> 01:25:14,227
Speaker 31: Guy Harris, the Harbourmaster, has been extremely restrictive in prohibiting

1621
01:25:14,587 --> 01:25:18,747
Speaker 31: practice for the international teams, including this morning where the

1622
01:25:18,747 --> 01:25:22,867
Speaker 31: international teams were desperately seeking his approval to allow them

1623
01:25:23,067 --> 01:25:27,187
Speaker 31: much needed time on the water. He refused without giving

1624
01:25:27,227 --> 01:25:31,107
Speaker 31: any reasons. Earlier this week he also stated to me

1625
01:25:31,187 --> 01:25:36,467
Speaker 31: that because SOLEGP is a commercial entity, other non commercial.

1626
01:25:35,987 --> 01:25:38,067
Speaker 12: Entities and views have priority.

1627
01:25:39,227 --> 01:25:43,107
Speaker 31: Unfortunately, yesterday was another example of there being almost no

1628
01:25:43,267 --> 01:25:46,907
Speaker 31: balance in the decision making, another example of New Zealand

1629
01:25:46,987 --> 01:25:52,547
Speaker 31: being handcuffed by unprecedented layers of bureaucracy and red tape.

1630
01:25:52,667 --> 01:25:55,907
Speaker 31: I find it astonishing the amount of influence that EWE

1631
01:25:55,947 --> 01:25:59,267
Speaker 31: have over authorities here in New Zealand. That Apartment of

1632
01:25:59,307 --> 01:26:03,307
Speaker 31: Conservation would not allow racing in Littleton unless SALGP had

1633
01:26:03,347 --> 01:26:06,387
Speaker 31: approval from the EWEI. I suspect most New zealand And

1634
01:26:06,507 --> 01:26:09,547
Speaker 31: just don't realize the full implications of such a stance.

1635
01:26:10,507 --> 01:26:13,627
Speaker 31: It's been my experience throughout my long career connected with

1636
01:26:13,787 --> 01:26:18,747
Speaker 31: the ocean that dolphins are extremely intelligent mammals and are

1637
01:26:18,907 --> 01:26:21,067
Speaker 31: inherently aware of boats around them.

1638
01:26:21,547 --> 01:26:23,547
Speaker 12: The Hector's dolphin is not an.

1639
01:26:23,467 --> 01:26:30,227
Speaker 31: Endangered species, as Otiga University professor Liz Slutin recently claimed

1640
01:26:30,587 --> 01:26:34,467
Speaker 31: that was a lie. Of course, with any decision like this,

1641
01:26:34,587 --> 01:26:37,347
Speaker 31: there needs to be a balance. For example, one could

1642
01:26:37,387 --> 01:26:40,307
Speaker 31: say that because there's a chance of a road death,

1643
01:26:40,347 --> 01:26:42,387
Speaker 31: that we shouldn't be allowed to drive on the roads.

1644
01:26:43,027 --> 01:26:45,667
Speaker 31: I suspect most people would conclude that such a stance

1645
01:26:45,707 --> 01:26:49,227
Speaker 31: would be far too extreme and not practical. Inherently as

1646
01:26:49,227 --> 01:26:51,747
Speaker 31: a society we accept an element of.

1647
01:26:51,747 --> 01:26:53,067
Speaker 12: Risk in our daily lives.

1648
01:26:54,187 --> 01:26:59,067
Speaker 31: The Department of Conservation e CAN and the Littles Important

1649
01:26:59,547 --> 01:27:03,347
Speaker 31: Company have enforced services on sal GP, which is an

1650
01:27:03,427 --> 01:27:07,427
Speaker 31: international company with its main offices in London and New York,

1651
01:27:08,107 --> 01:27:11,507
Speaker 31: services that are not required and not demanded anywhere else

1652
01:27:11,547 --> 01:27:14,787
Speaker 31: in the world, yet are nevertheless imposed as a condition

1653
01:27:14,867 --> 01:27:18,027
Speaker 31: for allowing the races to proceed in Lyttleton. The cost

1654
01:27:18,067 --> 01:27:21,427
Speaker 31: for those unrequired services total approximately three.

1655
01:27:21,267 --> 01:27:22,707
Speaker 12: Hundred thousand dollars.

1656
01:27:23,187 --> 01:27:26,467
Speaker 31: In addition to that, there are eleven so called expert

1657
01:27:26,187 --> 01:27:30,987
Speaker 31: dolphin observers that are being paid six hundred dollars per

1658
01:27:31,107 --> 01:27:34,427
Speaker 31: day each plus their expenses in a program that total

1659
01:27:34,547 --> 01:27:38,827
Speaker 31: seventy eight thousand dollars. It was demanded that those dolphin

1660
01:27:38,867 --> 01:27:42,547
Speaker 31: observers beyond site from Thursday onwards, despite the harbor Master

1661
01:27:42,947 --> 01:27:46,667
Speaker 31: reducing practice time for the international teams on that.

1662
01:27:46,627 --> 01:27:49,307
Speaker 12: Day to around eleven minutes of sailing.

1663
01:27:50,227 --> 01:27:53,507
Speaker 31: These are costs and services that SALGP doesn't face anywhere

1664
01:27:53,587 --> 01:27:57,867
Speaker 31: else in the world. In conducting this event, SALGP alone

1665
01:27:57,947 --> 01:28:00,827
Speaker 31: is spending approximately five and a half million dollars in

1666
01:28:00,907 --> 01:28:05,027
Speaker 31: the local economy. Of course, our international teams also go

1667
01:28:05,147 --> 01:28:08,107
Speaker 31: to considerable effort and expense to send their teams to

1668
01:28:08,147 --> 01:28:10,707
Speaker 31: New Zealand to compete, and it's fair to say that

1669
01:28:10,787 --> 01:28:13,107
Speaker 31: they are also not happy with the way.

1670
01:28:12,947 --> 01:28:14,427
Speaker 12: This program is being managed.

1671
01:28:15,267 --> 01:28:18,627
Speaker 31: So l GP distributes live broadcast the two hundred and

1672
01:28:18,667 --> 01:28:23,707
Speaker 31: twelve territories worldwide, and many of those broadcasters, including CBS

1673
01:28:23,747 --> 01:28:26,947
Speaker 31: in the United States, turned the feed off well before

1674
01:28:26,987 --> 01:28:30,707
Speaker 31: the conclusion of the live broadcast window. There are a

1675
01:28:30,787 --> 01:28:34,187
Speaker 31: lot of considerations in managing an event like this, yet

1676
01:28:34,187 --> 01:28:37,787
Speaker 31: almost none of those are being properly considered by the

1677
01:28:37,907 --> 01:28:42,147
Speaker 31: environmental and harbor authorities here in christ Church. The factors,

1678
01:28:42,227 --> 01:28:44,907
Speaker 31: almost all of the people here in christ Church are

1679
01:28:44,947 --> 01:28:48,987
Speaker 31: incredibly supportive and positive. I'd like to thank all of

1680
01:28:49,027 --> 01:28:52,827
Speaker 31: those people who made us feel so welcome here, and

1681
01:28:52,907 --> 01:28:56,827
Speaker 31: I feel sorry for the fans, local businesses and all

1682
01:28:56,907 --> 01:28:59,507
Speaker 31: of the people that are so proud of this incredible

1683
01:28:59,547 --> 01:29:04,707
Speaker 31: city that this event has been so disruptive. Let's hope

1684
01:29:05,267 --> 01:29:10,747
Speaker 31: we finish today with some great racing and so thank you.

1685
01:29:11,827 --> 01:29:15,147
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. How can this be

1686
01:29:15,187 --> 01:29:15,987
Speaker 2: allowed to happen?

1687
01:29:16,827 --> 01:29:21,267
Speaker 12: Good question? Yeah, I have no answer for that.

1688
01:29:23,227 --> 01:29:24,787
Speaker 2: You're not coming back to christ are you?

1689
01:29:26,507 --> 01:29:26,907
Speaker 12: I don't.

1690
01:29:27,827 --> 01:29:32,267
Speaker 31: The feedback I've had from the teams is that this

1691
01:29:32,467 --> 01:29:33,187
Speaker 31: just isn't working.

1692
01:29:35,587 --> 01:29:37,467
Speaker 2: How deep is your frustration about this?

1693
01:29:44,427 --> 01:29:44,907
Speaker 12: It's deep.

1694
01:29:46,227 --> 01:29:49,067
Speaker 31: Yeah, I'm an incredibly proud of what we do here

1695
01:29:49,107 --> 01:29:53,147
Speaker 31: in New Zealand and to have this happen is really disappointing.

1696
01:29:56,027 --> 01:29:59,627
Speaker 2: I can see, I can see how this isn't just

1697
01:29:59,667 --> 01:30:03,067
Speaker 2: a commercial thing for you. This is deep in your blood.

1698
01:30:03,147 --> 01:30:05,667
Speaker 2: Sailing is in your blood and in your home.

1699
01:30:06,427 --> 01:30:09,347
Speaker 31: Event well, this is an incredible showcase for New Zealand.

1700
01:30:10,267 --> 01:30:10,627
Speaker 12: You know this.

1701
01:30:12,907 --> 01:30:15,467
Speaker 31: The vast majority of people here are incredibly proud of

1702
01:30:15,867 --> 01:30:17,787
Speaker 31: our country, of.

1703
01:30:18,987 --> 01:30:24,307
Speaker 12: What we stand for. And uh, you know, I think

1704
01:30:24,347 --> 01:30:26,747
Speaker 12: that's that shared it. You know amongst most people.

1705
01:30:28,227 --> 01:30:31,067
Speaker 2: What range of emotions did you go through yesterday as

1706
01:30:31,107 --> 01:30:37,027
Speaker 2: you watched on and I guess you know, completely unable

1707
01:30:37,067 --> 01:30:38,187
Speaker 2: to do anything about it.

1708
01:30:40,547 --> 01:30:42,987
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just incredibly disappointing.

1709
01:30:44,547 --> 01:30:46,787
Speaker 31: You know, there's there's There's not much more I can

1710
01:30:46,787 --> 01:30:47,587
Speaker 31: add to that.

1711
01:30:47,587 --> 01:30:50,427
Speaker 2: That's Sir Russell Coots. That was on day two of

1712
01:30:50,467 --> 01:30:54,347
Speaker 2: sale GP at at Littleton. Thankfully we got racing and

1713
01:30:54,387 --> 01:30:57,707
Speaker 2: on the second day and and the Black Foils got

1714
01:30:57,747 --> 01:31:00,427
Speaker 2: the victory. But yeah, it was just astonishing sitting across

1715
01:31:00,467 --> 01:31:03,987
Speaker 2: that desk from Sir Russell Coots and and he was

1716
01:31:04,227 --> 01:31:11,187
Speaker 2: he was almost unable to control his anger. Incredible stuff.

1717
01:31:11,267 --> 01:31:13,387
Speaker 2: And I said to him, there, you're not coming back

1718
01:31:13,387 --> 01:31:15,907
Speaker 2: to christ Hetch. Well, that's obviously proven to be the

1719
01:31:15,947 --> 01:31:19,507
Speaker 2: case because the New Zealand Leg of Sale GP is

1720
01:31:19,587 --> 01:31:23,107
Speaker 2: now in Auckland, and I think we'll go back. I

1721
01:31:23,107 --> 01:31:27,347
Speaker 2: think we're confirmed to go back January eighteen nineteen in Auckland.

1722
01:31:27,427 --> 01:31:31,107
Speaker 2: So we look forward to broadcasting from sal GP Auckland

1723
01:31:31,267 --> 01:31:34,907
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. It's eighteen past two as we

1724
01:31:34,947 --> 01:31:37,667
Speaker 2: look back on the year in review. One of the

1725
01:31:37,707 --> 01:31:43,107
Speaker 2: most unexpected triumphs of twenty twenty four was the White

1726
01:31:43,107 --> 01:31:46,987
Speaker 2: Ferns winning the T twenty World Cup. If you'd suggested this,

1727
01:31:47,547 --> 01:31:50,867
Speaker 2: if you'd even dared to dream about it in the

1728
01:31:52,027 --> 01:31:53,947
Speaker 2: time leading up to the tournament, you would have been

1729
01:31:53,987 --> 01:31:57,307
Speaker 2: laughed out of town because the White Ferns came in

1730
01:31:57,387 --> 01:32:00,827
Speaker 2: with I think it was an eleven game losing streak

1731
01:32:00,907 --> 01:32:05,827
Speaker 2: behind them. Nobody had them really getting out of the group,

1732
01:32:05,907 --> 01:32:07,987
Speaker 2: let alone and getting through to the final, let alone

1733
01:32:08,027 --> 01:32:11,107
Speaker 2: winning the whole thing. But they did and it turned

1734
01:32:11,107 --> 01:32:15,467
Speaker 2: out to be a wonderful wonderful occasion for particularly the

1735
01:32:15,507 --> 01:32:17,947
Speaker 2: more experienced players in the team who had been through

1736
01:32:17,987 --> 01:32:20,307
Speaker 2: thick and thin, and there had been an awful lot

1737
01:32:20,347 --> 01:32:24,027
Speaker 2: of thin, as I say. Leading in the day after

1738
01:32:24,067 --> 01:32:27,747
Speaker 2: they won, I spoke to Sophie Devine, captain of the side,

1739
01:32:28,227 --> 01:32:30,627
Speaker 2: to get her reflections on it all, and asked her,

1740
01:32:30,667 --> 01:32:33,747
Speaker 2: first of all, what it was across this tournament that

1741
01:32:33,867 --> 01:32:36,947
Speaker 2: allowed New Zealand to win the World Cup with absolutely

1742
01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:39,907
Speaker 2: no form to speak of coming in.

1743
01:32:40,627 --> 01:32:42,747
Speaker 19: It's interesting to say that because you talk about form

1744
01:32:42,747 --> 01:32:45,827
Speaker 19: in terms of results. Absolutely we were a bit of

1745
01:32:45,827 --> 01:32:49,067
Speaker 19: a stinker for being completely honest. Obviously, teen losses in

1746
01:32:49,107 --> 01:32:51,147
Speaker 19: a row that we knew that the performances that were

1747
01:32:51,187 --> 01:32:54,427
Speaker 19: starting to put together were you know, the glimpses of

1748
01:32:54,427 --> 01:32:56,427
Speaker 19: it interest to then be able to pull it together.

1749
01:32:56,467 --> 01:32:58,787
Speaker 19: I think obviously the India game through staff was always

1750
01:32:58,827 --> 01:33:01,787
Speaker 19: going to be a crucial game for us. We've been

1751
01:33:01,787 --> 01:33:04,587
Speaker 19: tagging it for a very long time. But we also

1752
01:33:04,867 --> 01:33:06,587
Speaker 19: knew that the way that we had to play that

1753
01:33:06,587 --> 01:33:10,027
Speaker 19: we knew that we couldn't be reserved and you know,

1754
01:33:10,147 --> 01:33:12,267
Speaker 19: in our show, we need to go out and take

1755
01:33:12,267 --> 01:33:14,587
Speaker 19: the game on and that really took the for the

1756
01:33:14,587 --> 01:33:17,027
Speaker 19: rest of the tournament and how to play. Obviously the

1757
01:33:17,147 --> 01:33:20,427
Speaker 19: game against Australia was disappointing, but I mean looking back

1758
01:33:20,507 --> 01:33:22,307
Speaker 19: now it did it matter too much? Probably not, But

1759
01:33:23,267 --> 01:33:25,427
Speaker 19: yeah again these last couple of weeks, the way that

1760
01:33:25,427 --> 01:33:28,907
Speaker 19: we've been able to roll that performances and the thing

1761
01:33:28,987 --> 01:33:31,107
Speaker 19: for me is it's been a real team effort. We've

1762
01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:34,267
Speaker 19: been someone differently every game and stood up obviously nearly

1763
01:33:34,347 --> 01:33:36,427
Speaker 19: que winning player of the tournament as well last night

1764
01:33:36,667 --> 01:33:40,347
Speaker 19: with outstanding but the support, she said from his fellow spinners,

1765
01:33:40,347 --> 01:33:42,667
Speaker 19: but also the other bowlers. People would a bat Georgia

1766
01:33:42,667 --> 01:33:46,107
Speaker 19: Plummer has been outstanding. You know, these so many people

1767
01:33:46,107 --> 01:33:48,507
Speaker 19: that we could call out that have done a job

1768
01:33:48,547 --> 01:33:51,227
Speaker 19: and being asked for the World Cup trophy.

1769
01:33:51,827 --> 01:33:54,707
Speaker 2: I heard you and your Postmas interview, will one of

1770
01:33:54,707 --> 01:33:57,467
Speaker 2: them say that. I think it was the night before

1771
01:33:57,507 --> 01:33:59,747
Speaker 2: the final you let yourself think about what it might

1772
01:33:59,827 --> 01:34:02,867
Speaker 2: be like to hold that hold that trophy. I know

1773
01:34:02,907 --> 01:34:04,747
Speaker 2: you've always been very measured in the way that you

1774
01:34:04,827 --> 01:34:09,147
Speaker 2: approach your cricket, but what were the emotions like when

1775
01:34:09,907 --> 01:34:10,467
Speaker 2: when you won.

1776
01:34:11,507 --> 01:34:14,267
Speaker 19: It's funny because it was it still hasn't really sunk

1777
01:34:14,307 --> 01:34:17,147
Speaker 19: in to be here. I mean, it's sort of twelve

1778
01:34:17,187 --> 01:34:21,547
Speaker 19: hours since Sintu one, but it still hasn't really sunk

1779
01:34:21,587 --> 01:34:24,147
Speaker 19: in the magnitude of what was being able to achieve,

1780
01:34:24,187 --> 01:34:27,827
Speaker 19: I think because it hasn't just been the last couple

1781
01:34:27,867 --> 01:34:29,507
Speaker 19: of weeks, sort of in the last couple of years.

1782
01:34:29,547 --> 01:34:32,067
Speaker 19: If not, you know, my whole career building up to

1783
01:34:32,347 --> 01:34:35,947
Speaker 19: the boy being able to win a World come. Every

1784
01:34:35,947 --> 01:34:38,867
Speaker 19: privat's dreams is to win a trophy like this, So

1785
01:34:39,707 --> 01:34:41,827
Speaker 19: it hasn't spunk in. But to be able to spend

1786
01:34:41,867 --> 01:34:44,507
Speaker 19: it with the team, with a group with a huge

1787
01:34:44,547 --> 01:34:47,867
Speaker 19: family and friends last night was it was really special

1788
01:34:47,907 --> 01:34:50,627
Speaker 19: and it's going to take away while to soak in

1789
01:34:50,747 --> 01:34:53,667
Speaker 19: and we'll certainly do that. But we've also got another

1790
01:34:53,707 --> 01:34:56,667
Speaker 19: assignment in a couple of days times, so it's just

1791
01:34:56,707 --> 01:34:58,947
Speaker 19: the nature of the international schedule at the moment. But

1792
01:35:00,387 --> 01:35:04,707
Speaker 19: take the time to, yeah, things soaken for what was

1793
01:35:04,867 --> 01:35:06,227
Speaker 19: a pretty special couple of weeks.

1794
01:35:06,387 --> 01:35:08,267
Speaker 2: Are you going to reconsider your decision to step down

1795
01:35:08,267 --> 01:35:09,267
Speaker 2: as T twenty captain?

1796
01:35:10,227 --> 01:35:11,627
Speaker 19: No, it's not a chance. I mean, it's a pretty

1797
01:35:11,667 --> 01:35:14,747
Speaker 19: good way to bow out, but yeah, a lot. This

1798
01:35:14,867 --> 01:35:17,787
Speaker 19: decision has been a long time coming to me and

1799
01:35:18,267 --> 01:35:20,267
Speaker 19: I think it's just a great way to sign off

1800
01:35:20,307 --> 01:35:22,187
Speaker 19: and hand over to who the next kipt is.

1801
01:35:22,187 --> 01:35:22,627
Speaker 24: Going to be.

1802
01:35:22,667 --> 01:35:25,707
Speaker 19: So yeah, obviously still really keen and still have a

1803
01:35:25,707 --> 01:35:27,907
Speaker 19: lot more to give, both in the fifty over format

1804
01:35:27,947 --> 01:35:31,267
Speaker 19: but also T twins as well and just the playing capacity.

1805
01:35:31,347 --> 01:35:34,547
Speaker 19: So yeah, I think it's a great way to sign off.

1806
01:35:34,827 --> 01:35:38,267
Speaker 2: And what's the actual highlight spelling out Tawer with the

1807
01:35:38,387 --> 01:35:42,627
Speaker 2: Curse Sisters and Georgia Plumber up on the podium afterwards.

1808
01:35:42,947 --> 01:35:47,027
Speaker 19: Well, the embarrassing thing was was how long it took

1809
01:35:47,107 --> 01:35:50,387
Speaker 19: us to figure out how to spell. It was a

1810
01:35:50,427 --> 01:35:53,627
Speaker 19: little bit embarrassing from us, but no, look, I think

1811
01:35:53,667 --> 01:35:55,867
Speaker 19: it was so cool to be able to share that

1812
01:35:56,027 --> 01:35:59,427
Speaker 19: with people from Tower, to be able to you know,

1813
01:35:59,547 --> 01:36:02,947
Speaker 19: have that bond as pretty cool out in the middle

1814
01:36:02,947 --> 01:36:04,307
Speaker 19: of Two Way International.

1815
01:36:03,867 --> 01:36:07,547
Speaker 2: Stadium, Sophie Divine just twelves as you heard there after

1816
01:36:07,627 --> 01:36:10,307
Speaker 2: they had won the T twenty Cricket World Cup. The

1817
01:36:10,347 --> 01:36:13,707
Speaker 2: White Ferns, what a what a finish two are really

1818
01:36:13,787 --> 01:36:15,947
Speaker 2: challenging twelve to eighteen months for them to be able

1819
01:36:15,947 --> 01:36:19,067
Speaker 2: to hold that silverware high into the into the Dubai

1820
01:36:19,147 --> 01:36:22,507
Speaker 2: Sky two twenty three. It is we are a week now,

1821
01:36:22,547 --> 01:36:26,107
Speaker 2: It's a year. Our year in review, show continues. Surely

1822
01:36:26,107 --> 01:36:28,187
Speaker 2: a bit more cricket for you, But next up Lulu

1823
01:36:28,347 --> 01:36:33,267
Speaker 2: Sun again, a name that perhaps didn't resonate particularly much

1824
01:36:33,307 --> 01:36:35,427
Speaker 2: with us at the start of twenty twenty four, but

1825
01:36:35,547 --> 01:36:39,987
Speaker 2: her run to the latter stages of Wimbledon certainly thrust

1826
01:36:40,027 --> 01:36:43,587
Speaker 2: her into our consciousness. We'll get her reflections as part

1827
01:36:43,627 --> 01:36:45,507
Speaker 2: of our Year in Review show when we come.

1828
01:36:45,347 --> 01:36:50,547
Speaker 1: Back One Grudge Hold Engage weekends for It with Jason

1829
01:36:50,627 --> 01:36:53,827
Speaker 1: Paine and GJ. Gunnerhos new Zealand's.

1830
01:36:53,467 --> 01:36:56,907
Speaker 32: Most trusted home builder News Talk to Biley two twenty

1831
01:36:56,947 --> 01:36:59,067
Speaker 32: six as we look back on some of the highs

1832
01:36:59,107 --> 01:37:02,267
Speaker 32: of twenty twenty four in a sporting sense, and certainly

1833
01:37:02,547 --> 01:37:05,387
Speaker 32: what happened at Wimbledon qualifies for that.

1834
01:37:05,547 --> 01:37:09,547
Speaker 2: Kiw Tennis Lulu Sun lighting up Wimbledon with a dream

1835
01:37:09,667 --> 01:37:13,307
Speaker 2: run to the quarter finals that after coming through qualifying,

1836
01:37:13,947 --> 01:37:16,307
Speaker 2: and she became the first New Zealand woman to reach

1837
01:37:16,347 --> 01:37:19,867
Speaker 2: the Wimbledon quarter finals in the Open era, losing their

1838
01:37:19,907 --> 01:37:23,627
Speaker 2: two Croatias Donna Vika in three sets. I spoke with

1839
01:37:23,707 --> 01:37:27,267
Speaker 2: Lulusen lu Lusawn after Wimbledon to find out what her

1840
01:37:27,307 --> 01:37:30,347
Speaker 2: hopes were, first of all, going into the tournament.

1841
01:37:31,627 --> 01:37:38,147
Speaker 33: Well coming from already playing passing qualifying in Australian Open,

1842
01:37:38,867 --> 01:37:41,707
Speaker 33: I was hoping this time to pass the first round,

1843
01:37:43,147 --> 01:37:46,107
Speaker 33: so it could be better, you know, one more step

1844
01:37:46,427 --> 01:37:51,187
Speaker 33: than Australian Open. So yeah, I mean I didn't have

1845
01:37:51,227 --> 01:37:55,747
Speaker 33: a lot of expectations, but obviously, you know, you want

1846
01:37:55,747 --> 01:37:59,147
Speaker 33: to do well at the same time, so I was

1847
01:37:59,227 --> 01:38:03,347
Speaker 33: just taking it match by match, and after my first one,

1848
01:38:03,387 --> 01:38:05,507
Speaker 33: I was like, Okay, let's go go work on the

1849
01:38:05,547 --> 01:38:08,067
Speaker 33: next one, and then the next one and then the

1850
01:38:08,107 --> 01:38:13,507
Speaker 33: next one. So it kind of spiraled and I'm just

1851
01:38:13,867 --> 01:38:16,467
Speaker 33: super happy I was able to experience all that and

1852
01:38:16,467 --> 01:38:18,707
Speaker 33: against super players as well.

1853
01:38:19,147 --> 01:38:21,627
Speaker 2: How much confidence were you building during this time? How

1854
01:38:21,667 --> 01:38:24,467
Speaker 2: much how much more confident did you become with each

1855
01:38:24,587 --> 01:38:25,947
Speaker 2: match that you won?

1856
01:38:26,667 --> 01:38:31,107
Speaker 33: Definitely? I mean even with any win, you know, you get,

1857
01:38:31,187 --> 01:38:34,427
Speaker 33: you build up your confidence and your sureeness in your

1858
01:38:34,467 --> 01:38:38,667
Speaker 33: game and what you're doing, and it also brings up

1859
01:38:38,747 --> 01:38:43,187
Speaker 33: momentum to you as well, so I think it definitely

1860
01:38:43,587 --> 01:38:45,427
Speaker 33: brought up each round.

1861
01:38:45,547 --> 01:38:51,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, across the tournament, Lulu, what do you think contributed

1862
01:38:51,267 --> 01:38:53,907
Speaker 2: most to your success? What were you doing particularly well

1863
01:38:53,907 --> 01:38:56,587
Speaker 2: across all your matches at Wimbledon that got you all

1864
01:38:56,587 --> 01:38:58,347
Speaker 2: the way through to the quarterfinals.

1865
01:38:59,307 --> 01:39:03,427
Speaker 33: I think having an aggressive game was definitely helping, and

1866
01:39:03,667 --> 01:39:08,667
Speaker 33: obviously my servant forehand were you know, the the helpful

1867
01:39:09,867 --> 01:39:14,107
Speaker 33: strokes that I had in my game. So I mean

1868
01:39:14,147 --> 01:39:17,307
Speaker 33: on grass, obviously you have to be aggressive and come

1869
01:39:17,347 --> 01:39:21,907
Speaker 33: to the net because it you know, when you're aggressive,

1870
01:39:21,947 --> 01:39:24,427
Speaker 33: you get advantages more on the net. To be able

1871
01:39:24,467 --> 01:39:27,907
Speaker 33: to come in more opportunities as well, and to be

1872
01:39:27,987 --> 01:39:30,387
Speaker 33: able to finish in the net also helps you because

1873
01:39:30,427 --> 01:39:33,587
Speaker 33: sometimes if you don't, then the rally might continue.

1874
01:39:33,667 --> 01:39:37,747
Speaker 2: So yeah, but that's not an adjustment for you, is it? Necessarily?

1875
01:39:38,067 --> 01:39:40,187
Speaker 2: From what I can see and have read and have seen,

1876
01:39:40,747 --> 01:39:42,947
Speaker 2: that's your game, isn't it? The aggressive game, the serve

1877
01:39:42,987 --> 01:39:45,827
Speaker 2: and volley coming to the net, And it clearly worked

1878
01:39:45,867 --> 01:39:48,987
Speaker 2: for you at Wimbledon. So so this surface and this

1879
01:39:49,027 --> 01:39:52,027
Speaker 2: tournament probably probably searched your game, does it.

1880
01:39:52,587 --> 01:39:55,827
Speaker 33: Yeah, it does. I've I've played it only a few

1881
01:39:55,867 --> 01:40:00,867
Speaker 33: times before. So but I enjoy my time on grass

1882
01:40:00,867 --> 01:40:08,387
Speaker 33: always because it's a short, short season Montenna's unfortunately, but

1883
01:40:09,347 --> 01:40:12,747
Speaker 33: I enjoy each surface as well because you have to

1884
01:40:12,787 --> 01:40:16,387
Speaker 33: adapt a little bit on each surface, a little bit

1885
01:40:16,427 --> 01:40:18,907
Speaker 33: of your game, a little bit of how you move

1886
01:40:18,987 --> 01:40:24,267
Speaker 33: as well. So it's it's this adaptability game always, and

1887
01:40:24,347 --> 01:40:25,547
Speaker 33: so I really enjoy that.

1888
01:40:26,507 --> 01:40:30,347
Speaker 2: Tell us about the experience of center court, playing on

1889
01:40:30,547 --> 01:40:33,267
Speaker 2: center court for the first time, and not only on

1890
01:40:33,307 --> 01:40:38,347
Speaker 2: center court, but against local darling Emma Radakanu, who obviously

1891
01:40:38,427 --> 01:40:41,267
Speaker 2: had a whole nation behind her, but not only playing

1892
01:40:41,307 --> 01:40:44,587
Speaker 2: out there against her, but winning that match, what was

1893
01:40:44,587 --> 01:40:44,947
Speaker 2: that like?

1894
01:40:47,467 --> 01:40:51,147
Speaker 33: I mean, first of all, I was just really stoked

1895
01:40:51,187 --> 01:40:54,547
Speaker 33: to play on center and to be able to play

1896
01:40:54,587 --> 01:40:58,867
Speaker 33: in such a big of a crowd was amazing. And

1897
01:40:58,947 --> 01:41:02,107
Speaker 33: to play a player like Emma who was you know,

1898
01:41:02,627 --> 01:41:04,947
Speaker 33: even if I lost, I would I would take it

1899
01:41:04,987 --> 01:41:08,187
Speaker 33: all in and I would for a min So I

1900
01:41:08,347 --> 01:41:11,507
Speaker 33: just really came in to play each point at one

1901
01:41:11,587 --> 01:41:14,547
Speaker 33: hundred percent and until the very last.

1902
01:41:14,627 --> 01:41:15,147
Speaker 2: And so.

1903
01:41:16,907 --> 01:41:20,947
Speaker 33: I mean it was insane. But obviously with the roof closed,

1904
01:41:21,987 --> 01:41:25,987
Speaker 33: everything was echoing and it was hard to hear when

1905
01:41:26,107 --> 01:41:30,587
Speaker 33: people were applauding. But I kind of knew that was

1906
01:41:30,787 --> 01:41:34,827
Speaker 33: going to happen beforehand, So I think it was okay.

1907
01:41:35,147 --> 01:41:39,267
Speaker 2: Lulu soun Wimbledon quarter finalists there, and she will end

1908
01:41:39,267 --> 01:41:41,787
Speaker 2: the year and start the new one, presumably as long

1909
01:41:41,827 --> 01:41:45,587
Speaker 2: as she gets through tomorrow and the next day at

1910
01:41:45,627 --> 01:41:49,147
Speaker 2: the ASB Tennis Classic. She is the fourth seed. I

1911
01:41:49,147 --> 01:41:51,107
Speaker 2: think that's the highest in New Zealand has ever been

1912
01:41:51,107 --> 01:41:53,667
Speaker 2: at the ASP Classic in terms of their seating. She

1913
01:41:53,707 --> 01:41:58,747
Speaker 2: will open proceedings tomorrow at the ASB Classic, so let's

1914
01:41:58,787 --> 01:42:00,347
Speaker 2: hope that she can finish the year off and then

1915
01:42:00,387 --> 01:42:02,947
Speaker 2: start the new year with that with victory at the

1916
01:42:02,987 --> 01:42:05,387
Speaker 2: ASP Classic. It was great to catch up with Lulu

1917
01:42:05,467 --> 01:42:09,267
Speaker 2: Soun after Wimbledon this year twenty nine to three on

1918
01:42:09,467 --> 01:42:12,827
Speaker 2: our Year in Review show to Football and the Wellington

1919
01:42:12,867 --> 01:42:16,347
Speaker 2: Phoenix had a terrific twenty twenty three to twenty four

1920
01:42:16,427 --> 01:42:19,787
Speaker 2: season which took them to within one game of the

1921
01:42:19,787 --> 01:42:22,987
Speaker 2: A League's Grand Final. Unfortunately they couldn't quite get there.

1922
01:42:23,747 --> 01:42:26,747
Speaker 2: They met Melbourne Victory in a two legged semi final

1923
01:42:26,747 --> 01:42:30,267
Speaker 2: which went to extra time in Wellington before they were

1924
01:42:30,507 --> 01:42:34,307
Speaker 2: eliminated by Melbourne Victory, who went on to themselves lose

1925
01:42:34,787 --> 01:42:38,067
Speaker 2: to the Central Coast Mariners in the final. But probably

1926
01:42:38,467 --> 01:42:42,307
Speaker 2: an even even more significant development in the game of

1927
01:42:42,347 --> 01:42:44,627
Speaker 2: football in this country in twenty twenty four was the

1928
01:42:44,747 --> 01:42:48,147
Speaker 2: arrival of the new Boys Auckland FC, who have hit

1929
01:42:48,187 --> 01:42:50,667
Speaker 2: the A League with a bang, setting all sorts of

1930
01:42:50,707 --> 01:42:53,307
Speaker 2: records in their first few games. They eventually lost for

1931
01:42:53,347 --> 01:42:56,947
Speaker 2: the first time last weekend, but had to win last

1932
01:42:56,987 --> 01:43:00,307
Speaker 2: night against the Central Coast Mariners, and going into the

1933
01:43:00,347 --> 01:43:03,267
Speaker 2: new year, they are four points clear at the top

1934
01:43:03,307 --> 01:43:05,987
Speaker 2: of the A League Men's ladder in their very first season.

1935
01:43:07,027 --> 01:43:10,467
Speaker 2: And it was the derby matches which really captured the imagination.

1936
01:43:10,987 --> 01:43:13,947
Speaker 2: We had two of them. The most recent was in

1937
01:43:13,987 --> 01:43:16,707
Speaker 2: Auckland with the Auckland FC winning two to one. The

1938
01:43:16,707 --> 01:43:19,587
Speaker 2: first one was in Wellington in round three. What an

1939
01:43:19,587 --> 01:43:23,147
Speaker 2: occasion it was. Auckland FC came into town, smashed and

1940
01:43:23,187 --> 01:43:26,867
Speaker 2: grabbed and left with a two niel victory, both goals

1941
01:43:27,067 --> 01:43:30,187
Speaker 2: scored by Jake Brimmer, who came off the bench in

1942
01:43:30,227 --> 01:43:33,147
Speaker 2: the last twenty minutes to score those two late goals.

1943
01:43:33,347 --> 01:43:36,307
Speaker 2: The following morning I spoke to Jake Brimmer and asked

1944
01:43:36,347 --> 01:43:38,707
Speaker 2: him what he was seeing from the bench before he

1945
01:43:38,867 --> 01:43:40,227
Speaker 2: was introduced into the game.

1946
01:43:41,307 --> 01:43:44,427
Speaker 26: Luck obviously, you sit there and you watch, you watch

1947
01:43:44,467 --> 01:43:47,027
Speaker 26: the game and you look at how everyone's defending, how

1948
01:43:47,067 --> 01:43:49,467
Speaker 26: to keep his playing, and to be honest with you,

1949
01:43:49,507 --> 01:43:51,187
Speaker 26: I sort of noticed that he took a bit too

1950
01:43:51,267 --> 01:43:53,027
Speaker 26: long on the ball and he sort of.

1951
01:43:54,507 --> 01:43:56,067
Speaker 10: Second guess what he was going to do. A lot

1952
01:43:56,067 --> 01:43:56,827
Speaker 10: of the time and.

1953
01:43:57,187 --> 01:43:59,267
Speaker 26: If you watch the goal back the first one, I

1954
01:43:59,307 --> 01:44:02,227
Speaker 26: actually anticipated that he'd cut back inside. And you know,

1955
01:44:02,227 --> 01:44:04,187
Speaker 26: it's a game I have to take as well do

1956
01:44:04,307 --> 01:44:06,107
Speaker 26: A mean fact, ball goes through, they probably go up

1957
01:44:06,107 --> 01:44:09,307
Speaker 26: and counter attack us. So it was a chance that

1958
01:44:09,347 --> 01:44:12,467
Speaker 26: I took, and you know, luckily enough that it paid off.

1959
01:44:12,507 --> 01:44:14,507
Speaker 10: And yeah, it was just unbelievable.

1960
01:44:14,667 --> 01:44:17,587
Speaker 2: That's so interesting that you'd noticed that from watching. I mean,

1961
01:44:17,627 --> 01:44:19,187
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know this to be true, but

1962
01:44:19,227 --> 01:44:20,907
Speaker 2: I'm sure some subs just sit there and just wait

1963
01:44:20,947 --> 01:44:23,107
Speaker 2: to get the call without really taking hek got a

1964
01:44:23,107 --> 01:44:24,867
Speaker 2: lot of notice what's going on, but you'd noticed that

1965
01:44:24,987 --> 01:44:28,267
Speaker 2: from Phoenix goalkeeper Josh all Away, immy that it might

1966
01:44:28,307 --> 01:44:29,827
Speaker 2: be something you could capitalize on.

1967
01:44:30,667 --> 01:44:31,507
Speaker 10: Oh, without a doubt.

1968
01:44:31,587 --> 01:44:34,867
Speaker 26: Yeah. Look, I obviously was disappointed not to start the game,

1969
01:44:34,907 --> 01:44:38,507
Speaker 26: but that was the decision the gap had made. So

1970
01:44:38,667 --> 01:44:42,267
Speaker 26: for me, it's you know, there's always a chance to

1971
01:44:42,387 --> 01:44:44,467
Speaker 26: learn in the game, and to learn when you're watching

1972
01:44:44,507 --> 01:44:44,747
Speaker 26: as well.

1973
01:44:44,787 --> 01:44:45,667
Speaker 10: You know what I mean. You want to make a

1974
01:44:45,667 --> 01:44:46,427
Speaker 10: difference when you come.

1975
01:44:46,347 --> 01:44:48,107
Speaker 26: Off the bench so that you put yourself in a

1976
01:44:48,107 --> 01:44:50,827
Speaker 26: position to start every week. And you know, I've had

1977
01:44:50,867 --> 01:44:52,667
Speaker 26: I've had my ups and downs in pre season with

1978
01:44:52,747 --> 01:44:55,587
Speaker 26: injuries and stuff like that, but I think, you know,

1979
01:44:55,627 --> 01:44:57,427
Speaker 26: it was special to get those two goals, and you know,

1980
01:44:57,467 --> 01:45:01,667
Speaker 26: howefully my confidentious builds now and I can continue to

1981
01:45:02,347 --> 01:45:05,107
Speaker 26: provide those things in a lot more games to come.

1982
01:45:05,227 --> 01:45:07,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second goal with time just about up the

1983
01:45:08,027 --> 01:45:09,587
Speaker 2: icing on the cake. I guess how nice they to

1984
01:45:09,627 --> 01:45:10,747
Speaker 2: see that one rolling as well?

1985
01:45:11,427 --> 01:45:12,747
Speaker 10: I was just I was happy for Lewis.

1986
01:45:12,787 --> 01:45:15,187
Speaker 26: To me, I know he's been through a light as

1987
01:45:15,187 --> 01:45:17,387
Speaker 26: well with football, and you know football has its ups

1988
01:45:17,387 --> 01:45:21,227
Speaker 26: and downs, but he's sort of one young boy that's

1989
01:45:21,387 --> 01:45:25,627
Speaker 26: been you know, at Auckland that's impressed me the way

1990
01:45:25,627 --> 01:45:29,267
Speaker 26: he plays and the way he conducts himself to football

1991
01:45:29,347 --> 01:45:33,187
Speaker 26: and the professionalism he has, and for him to come

1992
01:45:33,227 --> 01:45:34,267
Speaker 26: on and make an impact that he.

1993
01:45:34,307 --> 01:45:35,907
Speaker 10: Did was I was very happy for him. So he

1994
01:45:35,907 --> 01:45:36,747
Speaker 10: put it on a play for.

1995
01:45:36,747 --> 01:45:39,427
Speaker 26: Me and look, I'm not I don't score many tap ins,

1996
01:45:39,427 --> 01:45:40,587
Speaker 26: so I can't complain.

1997
01:45:41,147 --> 01:45:42,507
Speaker 10: I cannot complain with that one.

1998
01:45:42,667 --> 01:45:44,387
Speaker 2: Oh they all can for one, mate. They all count

1999
01:45:44,427 --> 01:45:47,867
Speaker 2: for one. Three clean sheets as well, so you know,

2000
01:45:47,907 --> 01:45:50,747
Speaker 2: down the other end you remain unbreached. How pleasing is

2001
01:45:50,787 --> 01:45:52,627
Speaker 2: it to have those three clean sheets as well?

2002
01:45:54,067 --> 01:45:55,347
Speaker 10: Like you say the back for AP.

2003
01:45:55,747 --> 01:45:58,307
Speaker 26: You know, we talk about the defenders, but I think

2004
01:45:58,347 --> 01:46:00,667
Speaker 26: as a team, you know, you defend from the front,

2005
01:46:00,707 --> 01:46:04,267
Speaker 26: and I think it's in order to win championships in

2006
01:46:04,307 --> 01:46:07,347
Speaker 26: this league you need a good you need you need

2007
01:46:07,387 --> 01:46:07,947
Speaker 26: clean sheets.

2008
01:46:07,987 --> 01:46:09,987
Speaker 10: And you know we've done that in the past three games.

2009
01:46:09,987 --> 01:46:12,627
Speaker 26: We don't look like conceding and we're a bunch that

2010
01:46:13,067 --> 01:46:15,627
Speaker 26: are willing to work for each other and you know

2011
01:46:15,707 --> 01:46:17,667
Speaker 26: that can, like you said, think that can win your trophies.

2012
01:46:17,707 --> 01:46:20,627
Speaker 26: So yeah, we're doing very well back there, and you know,

2013
01:46:20,907 --> 01:46:21,867
Speaker 26: may we continue.

2014
01:46:22,227 --> 01:46:23,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was always going to be a challenging day

2015
01:46:23,867 --> 01:46:26,827
Speaker 2: for Alex Paulson for reasons we all understand, not as

2016
01:46:26,827 --> 01:46:30,347
Speaker 2: fold of course, but that's what football can throw up sometimes.

2017
01:46:30,387 --> 01:46:32,507
Speaker 2: How much extra support, if any, did you have to

2018
01:46:32,507 --> 01:46:34,227
Speaker 2: wrap around Alex Paulson this week?

2019
01:46:34,987 --> 01:46:37,907
Speaker 10: One hundred percent. You know, like I said, we go

2020
01:46:37,987 --> 01:46:39,227
Speaker 10: together with everything you do.

2021
01:46:39,347 --> 01:46:44,227
Speaker 26: And you know AP's he's a great kid, he's brilliant

2022
01:46:45,547 --> 01:46:47,227
Speaker 26: and like you say, the gaffer had words with this

2023
01:46:47,347 --> 01:46:49,587
Speaker 26: about it, and not that he needs it, but he

2024
01:46:49,627 --> 01:46:50,907
Speaker 26: knew that we had his back at.

2025
01:46:50,867 --> 01:46:52,427
Speaker 10: Any moment at in time of that game.

2026
01:46:52,507 --> 01:46:55,467
Speaker 26: And you know, credit to him, to the person he hears,

2027
01:46:55,707 --> 01:46:58,467
Speaker 26: he's harmless and he's such a good kid, so it

2028
01:46:58,547 --> 01:47:00,427
Speaker 26: was an extra special one for us to win against

2029
01:47:00,427 --> 01:47:00,947
Speaker 26: his whole team.

2030
01:47:00,987 --> 01:47:03,307
Speaker 10: Put it that way, absolutely.

2031
01:47:02,747 --> 01:47:05,667
Speaker 2: The occasion over twenty six thousand there yesterday, You've played

2032
01:47:05,667 --> 01:47:07,907
Speaker 2: in some big mel Albyn darbies, Jake, I know this

2033
01:47:07,947 --> 01:47:10,667
Speaker 2: one's only just started, but how big do you think

2034
01:47:10,667 --> 01:47:11,307
Speaker 2: it might get?

2035
01:47:12,387 --> 01:47:14,107
Speaker 26: Well, put it this way, if it was twenty six

2036
01:47:14,147 --> 01:47:15,987
Speaker 26: thousand to the first of a derby, is something going

2037
01:47:16,027 --> 01:47:16,547
Speaker 26: to get bigger?

2038
01:47:16,667 --> 01:47:19,267
Speaker 10: And you can see that rivalry already.

2039
01:47:19,387 --> 01:47:21,907
Speaker 26: And you know I mentioned it to Sky yesterday, Sky

2040
01:47:21,947 --> 01:47:24,627
Speaker 26: Sports that is, and I'd said that give it two

2041
01:47:24,627 --> 01:47:26,747
Speaker 26: three years. I'm telling you how this it will be.

2042
01:47:27,307 --> 01:47:30,067
Speaker 26: It's not the biggest derby in the league and that's exciting,

2043
01:47:30,107 --> 01:47:31,867
Speaker 26: you know for kiwei football. There's a lot of talent

2044
01:47:32,147 --> 01:47:35,547
Speaker 26: that I've noticed in Auckland, you know, and for the

2045
01:47:35,587 --> 01:47:37,547
Speaker 26: game and for the A League as well.

2046
01:47:37,587 --> 01:47:39,027
Speaker 10: I think it's just it's a beautiful thing.

2047
01:47:39,147 --> 01:47:42,107
Speaker 2: That is Jake Brimmer speaking to me the day after

2048
01:47:42,147 --> 01:47:45,587
Speaker 2: the first New Zealand derby. Since that they've met another time,

2049
01:47:45,627 --> 01:47:48,227
Speaker 2: as I say, in Auckland, with Auckland FC winning that

2050
01:47:48,267 --> 01:47:52,267
Speaker 2: one two to one. Both teams had wins yesterday, which

2051
01:47:52,347 --> 01:47:54,827
Speaker 2: was good to see the Phoenix snapping a three game

2052
01:47:54,867 --> 01:47:58,067
Speaker 2: losing streak beating the Newcastle Jets to one, and then

2053
01:47:58,307 --> 01:48:01,227
Speaker 2: Auckland f C bouncing back from a Fournel hiding last

2054
01:48:01,267 --> 01:48:04,267
Speaker 2: weekend to give the Central Coast to similar scoreline for

2055
01:48:04,507 --> 01:48:07,387
Speaker 2: one in Gosford. So as we stand Auckland f C

2056
01:48:07,507 --> 01:48:10,387
Speaker 2: at top of the pile a four point lead they

2057
01:48:10,427 --> 01:48:14,067
Speaker 2: will take into the new year. The Wellington Phoenix just

2058
01:48:14,107 --> 01:48:17,387
Speaker 2: outside the top six, but a confidence boosting win yesterday

2059
01:48:17,387 --> 01:48:20,867
Speaker 2: for them. If you haven't seen cost of Barbarusis's goal ever,

2060
01:48:20,947 --> 01:48:25,467
Speaker 2: look at it from the halfway line. Terrific stuff. Twenty

2061
01:48:25,467 --> 01:48:28,707
Speaker 2: three to three. We're reviewing the year. One of my

2062
01:48:28,747 --> 01:48:32,667
Speaker 2: favorite guests was Glenn Maxwell, the Australian cricketer. He had

2063
01:48:32,707 --> 01:48:34,347
Speaker 2: a book out and joined us to chat about that.

2064
01:48:34,427 --> 01:48:36,907
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask him though about the twenty fifteen

2065
01:48:36,947 --> 01:48:40,867
Speaker 2: Cricket World Cup when in that remarkable group game where

2066
01:48:41,227 --> 01:48:44,027
Speaker 2: Ozzie borel out for about one forty nine and New

2067
01:48:44,107 --> 01:48:48,147
Speaker 2: Zealand made very heavy weather of getting there, came Williamson,

2068
01:48:48,187 --> 01:48:50,067
Speaker 2: eventually hitting a six down the ground to give New

2069
01:48:50,147 --> 01:48:52,587
Speaker 2: Zealand the win. By one wicket. There was a famous

2070
01:48:52,707 --> 01:48:55,707
Speaker 2: moment during that game when as New Zealand wickets were falling,

2071
01:48:56,307 --> 01:48:59,267
Speaker 2: Glenn Maxwell turned to the packed crowd at Eden Park

2072
01:48:59,307 --> 01:49:03,667
Speaker 2: and gave it the choking gesture, which I thought was tremendous.

2073
01:49:03,707 --> 01:49:04,907
Speaker 2: I asked whether he remembered that.

2074
01:49:05,507 --> 01:49:08,147
Speaker 34: I remember being on that side of the ground for

2075
01:49:09,267 --> 01:49:13,547
Speaker 34: I reckon fifteen o's before that, and I was just

2076
01:49:13,707 --> 01:49:15,027
Speaker 34: copping it relentlessly.

2077
01:49:15,907 --> 01:49:16,707
Speaker 2: And then I went.

2078
01:49:16,627 --> 01:49:19,107
Speaker 34: Back out there when the I think it was the

2079
01:49:19,227 --> 01:49:22,947
Speaker 34: ninth wicket was lost and they were dead silent and

2080
01:49:22,987 --> 01:49:24,667
Speaker 34: they were just staring at me, and I was like

2081
01:49:25,827 --> 01:49:29,187
Speaker 34: Jesus gone quiet over here. And I did that, and

2082
01:49:29,427 --> 01:49:33,787
Speaker 34: oh my god, I just had instant regrets, like just instant,

2083
01:49:34,627 --> 01:49:37,387
Speaker 34: I just when the things you do when you're young

2084
01:49:37,427 --> 01:49:40,947
Speaker 34: and stupid around the crowd. But to be fair, the

2085
01:49:40,947 --> 01:49:43,347
Speaker 34: crowd took it really well, like they actually took it.

2086
01:49:43,387 --> 01:49:45,467
Speaker 34: They gave it back and end of the game we

2087
01:49:45,587 --> 01:49:47,307
Speaker 34: sort of like, I gave him a clap and said

2088
01:49:47,307 --> 01:49:48,787
Speaker 34: that it was pretty cool to be a part of.

2089
01:49:48,867 --> 01:49:51,307
Speaker 34: And but yeah, it was just one of those dumb

2090
01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:54,427
Speaker 34: things you're doing younger, and I hadn't I don't know

2091
01:49:54,547 --> 01:49:56,627
Speaker 34: first thing that popped in my mind that they were choking,

2092
01:49:56,707 --> 01:50:00,427
Speaker 34: and after all the grief I've been copping for the

2093
01:50:00,467 --> 01:50:02,187
Speaker 34: previous overs, I thought it was a good chance to

2094
01:50:02,227 --> 01:50:04,307
Speaker 34: get it back. And then came in and just goes

2095
01:50:04,387 --> 01:50:06,227
Speaker 34: bang and hits up for six and it's game over.

2096
01:50:06,667 --> 01:50:09,667
Speaker 2: No brilliant. I think all the reactions just probably helped

2097
01:50:09,667 --> 01:50:12,547
Speaker 2: that we won, But all the reaction afterwards was just brilliant,

2098
01:50:12,547 --> 01:50:14,067
Speaker 2: the fact that you could give it but also take

2099
01:50:14,107 --> 01:50:16,227
Speaker 2: it as well. The other one, other one was Wellington

2100
01:50:16,467 --> 01:50:18,947
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. You smashed one of the yellow

2101
01:50:18,987 --> 01:50:23,347
Speaker 2: seats at Wellington Stadium and the studium manager at the

2102
01:50:23,347 --> 01:50:24,907
Speaker 2: time got you to sign it auctioned at OFF for

2103
01:50:25,347 --> 01:50:26,747
Speaker 2: a charity. Do you remember that one?

2104
01:50:27,227 --> 01:50:27,427
Speaker 30: Yeah?

2105
01:50:27,467 --> 01:50:30,707
Speaker 4: I do, I remember that was was that Off one mate?

2106
01:50:30,987 --> 01:50:33,747
Speaker 2: There might have been Off Jimmy Nishan bound to have been.

2107
01:50:34,107 --> 01:50:38,027
Speaker 34: Oh, I hope it was. I got him to sign.

2108
01:50:38,187 --> 01:50:39,787
Speaker 34: I got him to sign one of his shirts and

2109
01:50:39,827 --> 01:50:42,667
Speaker 34: I had I think it was signed like four four

2110
01:50:42,787 --> 01:50:45,667
Speaker 34: six four four six four or something like that. Brilliant,

2111
01:50:47,827 --> 01:50:50,507
Speaker 34: But yeah, that was a strange series that I think.

2112
01:50:50,547 --> 01:50:53,587
Speaker 34: That was one of our first ones post covid Or.

2113
01:50:54,107 --> 01:50:58,507
Speaker 34: We definitely did a we did a quarantine I think

2114
01:50:58,507 --> 01:51:00,947
Speaker 34: on the way over to New Zealand, which looking back,

2115
01:51:00,947 --> 01:51:03,187
Speaker 34: scenes ridiculous. It's just literally just jumping over the back

2116
01:51:03,267 --> 01:51:05,347
Speaker 34: fence and going to see our neighbors and.

2117
01:51:07,067 --> 01:51:07,307
Speaker 17: There.

2118
01:51:07,507 --> 01:51:11,347
Speaker 34: To have that series in front of no one, especially

2119
01:51:11,387 --> 01:51:13,987
Speaker 34: after all our history and how much the crowd gets

2120
01:51:13,987 --> 01:51:16,787
Speaker 34: into those contests, it felt like a bit of a

2121
01:51:16,827 --> 01:51:19,147
Speaker 34: shame that we were playing in front of no crowds, and.

2122
01:51:20,707 --> 01:51:22,267
Speaker 4: I certainly remember that series being a bit of a

2123
01:51:22,267 --> 01:51:22,827
Speaker 4: strange one.

2124
01:51:22,947 --> 01:51:27,067
Speaker 2: That's Glenn Maxwell enjoyed chatting to him this year as well.

2125
01:51:27,107 --> 01:51:29,907
Speaker 2: Twenty to three. We'll get a breakaway when we come back.

2126
01:51:29,947 --> 01:51:32,827
Speaker 2: Our final couple of highlights from the year cricketing ones,

2127
01:51:32,907 --> 01:51:37,707
Speaker 2: including Will Young's reflections on New Zealand beating India three

2128
01:51:37,827 --> 01:51:39,987
Speaker 2: nil in the Test series over there just a couple

2129
01:51:40,027 --> 01:51:41,067
Speaker 2: of months ago. He's next.

2130
01:51:42,987 --> 01:51:46,907
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight eight

2131
01:51:46,947 --> 01:51:51,067
Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Pain and GJ Guvnomes, New

2132
01:51:51,147 --> 01:51:53,427
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder news talks.

2133
01:51:53,427 --> 01:51:56,387
Speaker 2: There'd be sixteen to three reviewing the year in sport.

2134
01:51:56,467 --> 01:51:59,627
Speaker 2: One of the more remarkable and unexpected achievements this year

2135
01:51:59,747 --> 01:52:03,107
Speaker 2: was the Black Caps sweeping India in a three Test

2136
01:52:03,187 --> 01:52:06,227
Speaker 2: series in India, coming as it did off the back

2137
01:52:06,227 --> 01:52:09,947
Speaker 2: of a two nil series loss against Sri Lanka, Nobody

2138
01:52:09,987 --> 01:52:13,867
Speaker 2: expected this incredible achievement. Will Young was man of the series.

2139
01:52:14,107 --> 01:52:17,227
Speaker 2: He averaged nearly fifty across the three Test matches. I

2140
01:52:17,227 --> 01:52:20,107
Speaker 2: spoke to him shortly after victory in the third Test

2141
01:52:20,187 --> 01:52:23,067
Speaker 2: and asked him if anything had changed after the two

2142
01:52:23,147 --> 01:52:24,587
Speaker 2: nil loss to Sri Lanka.

2143
01:52:24,947 --> 01:52:27,307
Speaker 35: We talk about, you know, sticking to what we know

2144
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Speaker 35: and you know, bringing our strengths to the to the

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Speaker 35: table and firing a shot. And you know, we tried

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Speaker 35: that in Shrilanka. But you know, you don't always succeed

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Speaker 35: in sport, and sometimes you learn more from your failures

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Speaker 35: than you do your successes. And so we went home

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Speaker 35: and we just had a bit of a regroup and

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01:52:45,707 --> 01:52:48,987
Speaker 35: just you know, tidy up a few things around, you know,

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01:52:49,267 --> 01:52:50,627
Speaker 35: what it is you want to bring to the team

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Speaker 35: as a bloke.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've all all good cricketers.

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Speaker 35: But you know, just remembering like who you're representing and

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01:52:58,067 --> 01:52:59,867
Speaker 35: that's the guy next to you, and you know, just

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01:52:59,907 --> 01:53:01,467
Speaker 35: little things like that, I think. And we went to

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Speaker 35: India and it's always exciting playing cricket over here, and

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Speaker 35: I think the guys just felt refreshed and red fire

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01:53:07,347 --> 01:53:09,907
Speaker 35: a shot. Really, we had nothing to lose and that's

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Speaker 35: the way we played. It was really special to be

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Speaker 35: part of a group with that sort of feeling.

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Speaker 2: There were some standout individual performances in the series, right

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Speaker 2: in Revendra's century in Bengalarue Mitchell Santna thirteen wickets and

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Speaker 2: pune aj S Pattel eleven in Mumbai, but it seemed

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Speaker 2: as though across the series there were important contribution from

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Speaker 2: everybody who took the field. Did this feel like a

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Speaker 2: true team effort?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it truly did.

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Speaker 35: Yeah, it seems like a while ago now, but you know,

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Speaker 35: the way Rutch embedded in Bungalore was incredible. You know,

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01:53:46,747 --> 01:53:49,187
Speaker 35: the seamas in that game got us into the game

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01:53:49,227 --> 01:53:51,067
Speaker 35: to start with, and then the spin came in later.

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Speaker 35: It was if you look at the averages of our

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Speaker 35: batters throughout the.

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Speaker 4: Series, you know, they're all right up there.

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Speaker 35: We've all contributed at different times and so personally like

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Speaker 35: I've come away with the player of the series. But

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Speaker 35: it feels a bit funny. You know, I didn't score

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Speaker 35: one hundred. I just sort of well, I guess just

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Speaker 35: quite consistent. And that's what we talked about, is as

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Speaker 35: a batting unit was coming in at different times, firing

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Speaker 35: a shot, building small partnerships, because those small partnerships really

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01:54:18,707 --> 01:54:21,147
Speaker 35: do add up over here. And if you can stop

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Speaker 35: that momentum and stop you know, to speaking cliches, you know,

2185
01:54:24,387 --> 01:54:26,987
Speaker 35: losing the wickets and clumps, you can put some pressure

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01:54:27,027 --> 01:54:29,587
Speaker 35: back on back on the Indians and that's what we

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01:54:29,627 --> 01:54:30,147
Speaker 35: managed to do.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it was so cool.

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Speaker 35: Like obviously this last game with the ball as well,

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Speaker 35: the way a Jazz Bold was incredible.

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Speaker 4: He certainly likes to bawl a Mumbai.

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Speaker 35: So as you say, Piney, you know, just yeah, awesome,

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Speaker 35: awesome contributions throughout and in the field too, you know,

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01:54:47,067 --> 01:54:49,387
Speaker 35: different guys stepped up at different times with the ball,

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Speaker 35: with the bat.

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Speaker 4: It was just, yeah, a real team performance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you talked about your consistency and in a

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Speaker 2: series where ball did dominate bat, the numbers would tell

2199
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Speaker 2: you one hundred and twelve wickets fell for two thousand

2200
01:55:01,867 --> 01:55:03,827
Speaker 2: and seven hundred and twenty eight runs. That's an average

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Speaker 2: of about twenty four runs per wicket. And amongst that

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01:55:06,427 --> 01:55:09,267
Speaker 2: you average nearly fifty. How happy were you with the

2203
01:55:09,307 --> 01:55:11,947
Speaker 2: way you batted and your contributions to the series win.

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01:55:13,747 --> 01:55:16,987
Speaker 35: Yeah, I was really pleased, you know, to come into

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Speaker 35: the side.

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01:55:19,187 --> 01:55:20,867
Speaker 4: After doing some really good training.

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Speaker 35: We're in India before the Sri Lanka series for a

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01:55:23,387 --> 01:55:25,627
Speaker 35: game that got washed out and then you had to

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Speaker 35: train away in Sri Lanka and you know, go about

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01:55:28,067 --> 01:55:30,547
Speaker 35: my bits and feel nice and prepared and relaxed and

2211
01:55:31,267 --> 01:55:32,627
Speaker 35: go out and do it and just do it in

2212
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Speaker 35: my own way, and you know, that's it's pretty awesome

2213
01:55:35,667 --> 01:55:37,667
Speaker 35: to be honest, And you know, I've had some really

2214
01:55:37,707 --> 01:55:41,627
Speaker 35: nice messages and things, and yeah, I guess that's that's

2215
01:55:41,667 --> 01:55:44,027
Speaker 35: cricket and I've just got to keep doing that over

2216
01:55:44,067 --> 01:55:44,667
Speaker 35: and over again.

2217
01:55:45,867 --> 01:55:49,227
Speaker 4: But no, it feels really special to contribute to this.

2218
01:55:49,307 --> 01:55:52,107
Speaker 2: Thing that is well young after the series win over

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01:55:52,227 --> 01:55:56,027
Speaker 2: India in India and finally on our review show, one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite guests this year was a cricketing guest,

2221
01:55:58,547 --> 01:56:01,747
Speaker 2: David Johnston. You probably haven't heard of him. He was

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01:56:01,747 --> 01:56:05,907
Speaker 2: one of Kane Williamson's first cricket coaches. He coached Kane

2223
01:56:05,947 --> 01:56:08,827
Speaker 2: Williams from the age of ten. I spoke to David

2224
01:56:08,867 --> 01:56:11,187
Speaker 2: Johnston this year and asked if he could tell there

2225
01:56:11,227 --> 01:56:14,187
Speaker 2: was something a bit special about Kane Williamson even at

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01:56:14,267 --> 01:56:15,547
Speaker 2: such a young age.

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01:56:15,707 --> 01:56:18,347
Speaker 24: His father, Brett coached him through his early years, and

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01:56:18,387 --> 01:56:21,307
Speaker 24: you're going to do the job of establishing some pretty

2229
01:56:21,347 --> 01:56:24,547
Speaker 24: strong foundations in his game. And once I got involved,

2230
01:56:24,587 --> 01:56:27,227
Speaker 24: it was very obviously early on that he was not

2231
01:56:27,347 --> 01:56:33,067
Speaker 24: only quite talented, but he had this prodigious desire to improve.

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Speaker 24: And I think it's the greatest thing about Kane is

2233
01:56:36,707 --> 01:56:38,987
Speaker 24: a desire to be better. And it's nothing to do

2234
01:56:39,067 --> 01:56:41,147
Speaker 24: with being better than everybody else. It's just been better

2235
01:56:41,147 --> 01:56:44,067
Speaker 24: than himself. And he used to practice harder than anybody else,

2236
01:56:44,187 --> 01:56:47,307
Speaker 24: even back then as the youngster, and those who know

2237
01:56:47,427 --> 01:56:49,987
Speaker 24: Caana and those who have thrown creatables to know the years,

2238
01:56:49,987 --> 01:56:52,387
Speaker 24: what a tift to the fact that he nothing's changed.

2239
01:56:52,427 --> 01:56:55,787
Speaker 24: He just loves to practice and loves to become better.

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Speaker 2: Was he inquisitive as well? Did he ask questions? Did

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01:56:59,667 --> 01:57:02,147
Speaker 2: he did he search for ways from you and other

2242
01:57:02,187 --> 01:57:03,107
Speaker 2: coaches to get better?

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01:57:03,987 --> 01:57:04,347
Speaker 12: Oh?

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01:57:04,427 --> 01:57:09,227
Speaker 24: Yeah, absolutely, he he this desire to and and the

2245
01:57:09,307 --> 01:57:10,867
Speaker 24: reality is, you know a lot of people have had

2246
01:57:10,907 --> 01:57:13,427
Speaker 24: input and came for many years, but he's actually his

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01:57:13,427 --> 01:57:16,747
Speaker 24: best coach because he's always looking two ways of improved,

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01:57:16,747 --> 01:57:18,907
Speaker 24: and he was asked, would ask questions, and he would

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01:57:19,387 --> 01:57:22,467
Speaker 24: watch people other players batting on TV and come back

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Speaker 24: and talk to you about how they did this this way,

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01:57:24,987 --> 01:57:28,307
Speaker 24: what you think? And so I remember I remember seeing

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01:57:28,387 --> 01:57:31,347
Speaker 24: him come back from a come back from his first

2253
01:57:31,427 --> 01:57:33,347
Speaker 24: tour when he first was sleeping from his Zealand, and

2254
01:57:33,387 --> 01:57:37,907
Speaker 24: he scored that amazing century and testabu and he was

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Speaker 24: he told me that the most important thing about learning.

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Speaker 24: They were standing at gully and watching session Tim Dolk

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01:57:42,867 --> 01:57:45,707
Speaker 24: and a rail Dravid bead and there were some characteristics

2258
01:57:45,707 --> 01:57:47,387
Speaker 24: at all of a sudden he adopted in his game,

2259
01:57:48,627 --> 01:57:52,827
Speaker 24: had even as even as a fledgling youngster when he

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01:57:52,867 --> 01:57:55,547
Speaker 24: first res in his Zealand, he was at his ability

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01:57:55,707 --> 01:57:57,627
Speaker 24: just to want to know no more about the game.

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Speaker 2: How did he deal with adversity? Because presumably there was

2263
01:58:01,987 --> 01:58:04,827
Speaker 2: some or was there just none? Was he that good?

2264
01:58:05,627 --> 01:58:05,667
Speaker 28: No?

2265
01:58:05,867 --> 01:58:08,787
Speaker 24: There was some of theirs. He had a patch it

2266
01:58:08,267 --> 01:58:10,947
Speaker 24: in his teenage years and not long after he made

2267
01:58:10,947 --> 01:58:14,787
Speaker 24: his debut for Northern Districts as a sixteen or seventeen

2268
01:58:14,827 --> 01:58:17,987
Speaker 24: year old. There are times it didn't always work. But

2269
01:58:18,027 --> 01:58:21,147
Speaker 24: the thing about Jason is that he wants to improve.

2270
01:58:21,307 --> 01:58:23,307
Speaker 24: So if you work as hard as what he did,

2271
01:58:23,467 --> 01:58:26,867
Speaker 24: and you and you'll find ways. In fact, I think

2272
01:58:27,307 --> 01:58:30,587
Speaker 24: just told I think his first game for Northern Districts,

2273
01:58:30,627 --> 01:58:33,507
Speaker 24: he actually got a peer playing against Auckland. You know,

2274
01:58:33,627 --> 01:58:35,627
Speaker 24: so as a as a sixteen or a seventeen year

2275
01:58:35,627 --> 01:58:38,867
Speaker 24: old bet in first job, I think it might have

2276
01:58:38,867 --> 01:58:41,627
Speaker 24: been Andre Adams might have got a LBW twice and ye,

2277
01:58:41,827 --> 01:58:44,667
Speaker 24: so right from the start. It didn't always happen, but

2278
01:58:44,827 --> 01:58:48,107
Speaker 24: the way he had this thirst for improvement, for knowledge

2279
01:58:48,147 --> 01:58:52,027
Speaker 24: and first to be better. So yeah, he dealt with

2280
01:58:52,027 --> 01:58:54,867
Speaker 24: it like well, better than anybody else. And that's why

2281
01:58:54,867 --> 01:58:57,307
Speaker 24: he's one of the great parts of today's pridet because

2282
01:58:57,307 --> 01:59:00,107
Speaker 24: he knew how to call himself. He is a fantastic

2283
01:59:00,187 --> 01:59:03,227
Speaker 24: problem solver. He will work out ways to make it work.

2284
01:59:03,987 --> 01:59:08,467
Speaker 2: Often prodigious. You know, schoolboy talents are you know, are

2285
01:59:08,827 --> 01:59:11,987
Speaker 2: a little bit separate, separate from that from their peers.

2286
01:59:12,027 --> 01:59:15,307
Speaker 2: They're obviously better than everybody else. And in some players

2287
01:59:15,307 --> 01:59:18,427
Speaker 2: that that, you know, can lend itself to some characteristics

2288
01:59:18,427 --> 01:59:20,547
Speaker 2: about being a little bit aloof or perhaps a little

2289
01:59:20,547 --> 01:59:23,987
Speaker 2: bit arrogant. Was Kane popular with his teammates, Oh.

2290
01:59:23,987 --> 01:59:28,387
Speaker 24: He's the most popular person as a child and through

2291
01:59:28,387 --> 01:59:30,987
Speaker 24: the through the age groups and now he's there wouldn't

2292
01:59:30,987 --> 01:59:33,387
Speaker 24: be anybody in the world cricket that have got anything

2293
01:59:33,427 --> 01:59:36,147
Speaker 24: bad to say. And he's just a genuinely top young

2294
01:59:36,227 --> 01:59:40,107
Speaker 24: man and everybody. Everybody loves Kane. He's just Kane and

2295
01:59:40,147 --> 01:59:42,427
Speaker 24: he's a fantastic guy. He's got a great sense of

2296
01:59:42,507 --> 01:59:45,907
Speaker 24: human and he's got very affable, loves a bit of

2297
01:59:45,987 --> 01:59:48,347
Speaker 24: music and just likes to be one of the boys.

2298
01:59:48,387 --> 01:59:51,147
Speaker 24: So I don't think there's any ever a time when

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01:59:51,187 --> 01:59:53,667
Speaker 24: there's any kind of feeling, you know, you're a bit

2300
01:59:53,707 --> 01:59:56,307
Speaker 24: of a loop or anything, because he just wasn't It's

2301
01:59:56,347 --> 01:59:59,467
Speaker 24: not paint or he's a genuinely good that is.

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Speaker 2: David Johnston, one of Kane Williamson's very first cricket coaches,

2303
02:00:03,467 --> 02:00:05,547
Speaker 2: very much enjoyed the chat with him this year eight

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Speaker 2: to three New Talks ITB.

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Speaker 1: The Good from the Track, Fields and the Court on

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Speaker 1: your home of Sport weekends for It with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: eNB five to three and that is us. That is

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Speaker 2: our year in review show. Thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: I hope it jogged a few memories for you. Mainly

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Speaker 2: good ones. I think we tended to focus positively across

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Speaker 2: the last three hours the main highs of the sporting year.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in. Huge thanks to Libby for

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Speaker 2: producing the show. Adam Cooper's on your radio after three

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Speaker 2: o'clock with Summer afternoons. I guess next time I talk

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Speaker 2: to you in a sporting sense, it will be the

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Speaker 2: New Year. So I hope your New Year's festivities, if

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Speaker 2: you are engaging in them, go well. Look forward to

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Speaker 2: a huge sporting year and twenty twenty five. Let's hope

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Speaker 2: that a year from now we're looking back on another

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Speaker 2: very successful twelve months of sport for Kiwis here and overseas.

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Speaker 2: Taking us out today. Well, a New Year's song I

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Speaker 2: think it even might have come from a movie called

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Speaker 2: New Year's Eve. Raise your glass from thank hope you

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Speaker 2: get the chance to do so. We'll see you in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Bob now.

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Speaker 16: Rety sorry, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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