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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling. The breakfast show you can't miss. It's Andrew

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Speaker 1: Dickens on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced

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Speaker 1: the Impossible news togsa'd b.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, good morning and welcome to the

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Speaker 2: program for the twenty sixth of January. Today the tragedy

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Speaker 2: at the Mount Mayor Mayor the Mahi Draja on the

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Speaker 2: latest also a review the ultra richer buying up queens Stale.

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Speaker 2: Where are they coming from? We've got calls from new

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Speaker 2: rules for airbnbs to free up housing stock. Meanwhile, what's

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Speaker 2: happening to tenants with pets? We're going to ask if

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Speaker 2: our shops are open long enough. And the dad of

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Speaker 2: our most promising runner and generation, Sam Ruther, then is

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Speaker 2: joining us later, Richard Arnold's from the States. We've got

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Speaker 2: to Steve Price from Australia and you can have your say.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two is a number of small charge applies.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, Right, For a long.

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Speaker 2: Time, I've been somewhat supportive of the current American administration.

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Speaker 2: They won a mandate. I understood that the mandate to

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Speaker 2: improve America to be to bring jobs back to bring

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Speaker 2: manufacturing back to stop being take an advantage of on

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Speaker 2: the world stage. But he really went too far. Now

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Speaker 2: the President has claimed that NATO does nothing for America.

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Speaker 2: He has claimed that NATO troops avoided the front line

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Speaker 2: in Afghanistan. But the only time Article five has been

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Speaker 2: invoked was for America after nine to eleven. NATO came

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Speaker 2: to America's aid after they called, and in that war,

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Speaker 2: NATO troops and New Zealand troops died, and the President

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Speaker 2: claimed they were not on the front line. Ask Willie

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Speaker 2: What the President doesn't understand is that in modern warfare,

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Speaker 2: everywhere is the front line. Or maybe he thinks that

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Speaker 2: troops still line up and charge each other like they

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Speaker 2: did in the movie Braveheart. The fact is the current

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Speaker 2: commander in chief has no military smarts. He dodged the

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Speaker 2: draft five times, he spent the Afghanistan War swaning around

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Speaker 2: New York big noting. And the reason I feel strongly

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Speaker 2: about what he said about NATO and the troops and

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Speaker 2: the front line is there is a simple rule in

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Speaker 2: public life, do not abuse the people who give their

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Speaker 2: lives for your country. So over the weekend, the President

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Speaker 2: acknowledged the heroism of four hundred and fifty seven Brits

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Speaker 2: who died in Afghanistan. He did this on truth social

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Speaker 2: No other troops were acknowledged. It wasn't out of his mouth.

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Speaker 2: He never said sorry. I think the President's weaknesses that

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Speaker 2: he thinks he is the biggest game in town. Well

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Speaker 2: he is, but he also thinks he's the only game

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Speaker 2: in town, which he isn't. And the other big fish

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Speaker 2: who have faced the world alone for a lot longer

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Speaker 2: than American know this. You know who I'm talking about,

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Speaker 2: and they will exploit this if the President keeps up

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Speaker 2: his ad hoc shoot from the lip style. Meanwhile, Phil

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Speaker 2: Goff reckons that Winston Peters should call the President out

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Speaker 2: on this. Well should he? Or are there too many risks?

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Speaker 2: You can text week ninety two ninety two who news

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Speaker 3: Sir.

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Speaker 2: Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has been blocked by Labor to

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Speaker 2: run for MP at Starmar and Co. Reckon is because

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Speaker 2: they don't want to trigger a costly mayoral election if

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Speaker 2: he were to leave that job, not because he is

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Speaker 4: It's very deep seated factionalism inside the Labor Party and

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Speaker 4: people will do anything to hold on to power even

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Speaker 2: So the vote was eight to one against. Stammer still

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Speaker 5: When we know that it could cost four point seven

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Speaker 5: think I could justify that to my constituents as to

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Speaker 2: So to the states in christi nom is doubling down

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Speaker 2: on the ICU nurse for veterans being a danger to

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Speaker 6: I don't know of any peaceful protester that shows up

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Speaker 2: Amendment right to bear arms. But there we are. Keshpttel

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Speaker 2: has jumped on board too. As the judge rules that

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration cannot destroy any evidence related to the case.

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Speaker 7: You do not get to attack law enforcement officials in

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Speaker 7: this country without any repercussions. You do not get to

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Speaker 7: do that in Minnesota, La, or anywhere else. Trust Secretary, Nouns,

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, he has a bit of fun. Professional

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Speaker 2: rock climber Alex Honald has completed his climb of Type

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Speaker 8: It is tiring, but honestly it's way more fun. You know,

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Speaker 2: For he's mad. Took him an hour and a half.

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Speaker 2: The spectators loved it, well attacked.

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Speaker 1: You must have put in a tremendous amount of preparation

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Speaker 2: People abroad are probably just focused.

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Speaker 1: On how fast he'll finish, because there's no doubt he'll succeed.

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Speaker 1: To seeing it in person, there is a whole different

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Speaker 2: Oh come on, were they there for his success or

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Speaker 2: the possibility he might fail. I don't know. And as

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Speaker 2: France becomes the latest to look at bantning under sixteen

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Speaker 2: limiting screen time for kids is no longer enough. They

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Speaker 2: six thirteen, all right. I was trying to Cameron Baggery

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Speaker 2: dampner on the government's recovery party. So how real is

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Speaker 2: that threat? In the moment, Kelly Echold from Westpac will

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Speaker 9: It be.

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Speaker 2: Tex Sir Andrew sounds like Goff is in the running

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Speaker 2: for Tippy's job. Can't think of any other reason he

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Speaker 2: the President and NATO. Thank you, Alfie for your text. Alfie.

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Speaker 2: It might be that mister Goff was fired by Winston

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Speaker 4: Money.

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Speaker 2: It is six sixteen and we're joined by Kelly Echold.

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Speaker 2: Kelly is the respect Tief Economists. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So the old inflation means that we could be getting

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Speaker 9: Well, it's looking on the CAR. I mean, I think

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Speaker 9: it was the only one forecasting a rate rise in

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Speaker 2: Thank you, So Matt me onto the States. The US

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Speaker 2: President might go left field for the next FED chair.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, Well, there's been a spooky development on Friday actually,

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Speaker 9: where if you're aware, there's this poly market betting market

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Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, we're talking a lot about the feeding inside

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Speaker 2: That there might be another US government shut down because

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Speaker 2: of the Argibarji in Minnesota.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, well that's right. I mean, we've had a

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Speaker 2: That affects everybody. So hey, what's the numbers?

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Speaker 3: The numbers?

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Speaker 2: So Netflix has released the What We Watched Engagement Report

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Speaker 2: It's all back to normal. Let's talk houses, Let's talk queens.

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Speaker 2: Sound their economic boom continues. New data shows a six

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Speaker 2: A luxurious good morning to you, Cam.

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Speaker 14: Good morning Andrew.

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Speaker 14: A good question Of're not talking about a huge sample size.

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Speaker 14: So I've been We've gone from twelve to fifteen inquiries

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Speaker 2: And those jurisdictions what Ukraine, Poland and the Soviet Bloc.

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Speaker 2: So what are they looking for mansions or are they

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Speaker 2: And from what do you from what you've said to them,

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Speaker 14: So I think as much as as locals wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: Well, this is right, This is what everyone is worried

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Speaker 14: About sixty percent of the properties that they're buying aren't

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Speaker 2: So here's the cam Here's the thing though, what does

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Speaker 14: No? I mean the rich account for a very small

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Speaker 2: Good only came went a good day for business obviously

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Speaker 2: It is seventeen to seven.

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Speaker 2: What News Talks. He'd be Mahi Dreiser right after seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: They've announced a review that needs to find what happened

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Speaker 2: But to that off in the Saints, good morning to you,

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Speaker 17: So immigration agents with ice have used tea gas now

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Speaker 17: They find that he has a gun, which he was

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Speaker 17: legally entitled to carry. They take it from his clothing.

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Speaker 17: I've got the gun, says one agent. Pretty never brandished

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Speaker 17: that weapon. But after all this, shots are fired. Ten shots, ten,

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Speaker 17: including five where all the ICE agents are standing clear

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Speaker 17: of the body. So be warned. This audio was graphic.

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Speaker 17: It's disturbing. So life in Minneapolis. From another video of

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Speaker 17: all this, do I Well, the former police commissioner in

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Speaker 17: Philadelphia and thirty year veteran of the police force in Chicago, says,

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Speaker 17: in his view of all this.

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Speaker 18: They didn't know he was armed until he was on

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Speaker 18: the ground and they started to wrestle with him. Probably

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Speaker 18: felt the gun yelled gone. And then you see a

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Speaker 18: person agent in a like a gray colored jacket reach

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Speaker 18: in and remove the gun prior to the shots being fired.

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Speaker 18: Everything that they're saying right now is inconsistent with what

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Speaker 18: you're seeing in an idiot well.

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Speaker 17: Trump's former lawyer and now deputy HG. Todd Blench was

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Speaker 17: pressed on this today about how Alex pretty could be

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Speaker 17: labeled a domestic terrorist. A question is Christian Velkep of NBC.

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Speaker 13: Did you see him at any point brandish a gun.

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Speaker 13: Have you been told by law enforcement there on the

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Speaker 13: ground that at any point he brandished a gun, that

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Speaker 13: he threatened them with a gun. The video shows he's

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Speaker 13: holding up a cell phone.

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Speaker 4: Now you can't see what everything is happening.

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Speaker 17: State Senator Amy Kleobsham Democrats says in her take on

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Speaker 17: all of this.

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Speaker 10: Now, I was absolutely horrified.

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Speaker 17: Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o' harra says as well in

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Speaker 17: speaking of it.

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Speaker 11: People have had enough. This is the third shooting now

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Speaker 11: in less than three weeks. The Minneapolis Police Department went

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Speaker 11: the entire year last year recovering about nine hundred guns

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Speaker 11: from the street, arresting one hundred and hundreds of violent

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Speaker 11: of funders, and we didn't shoot anyone.

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Speaker 17: So a charge has issued in order our barring affairs

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Speaker 17: from destroying any evidence. There are moves on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 17: to stop government funding if it includes money for the

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Speaker 17: ICE Homeland Security Force. As for Alex Pretty, he was

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Speaker 17: an avid outdoorsman, his family saying he was a quote

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Speaker 17: kind hearted soul who worked in one of the toughest

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Speaker 17: healthcare arenas. That is apparent is taking care of dying

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Speaker 17: military veterans. Video has emerged of him now giving a

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Speaker 17: eulogy recently for one such vet who had died. Here

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Speaker 17: is part of it.

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Speaker 19: Today we remember that freedom is not freedom.

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Speaker 1: We have to work at it, nurtured, protected, and even

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Speaker 1: sacrifice for it.

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Speaker 6: I may we never forget and always remember our brothers

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Speaker 6: and sisters who have served so.

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Speaker 3: That we may enjoy the gift of freedom. So in

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Speaker 3: this moment we.

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Speaker 18: Remember and give thanks for their dedication and selfless service

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Speaker 18: to our nation.

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Speaker 17: So this man has been called a domestic terrorist.

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Speaker 2: All right, now, super quick on the weather. How's it

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Speaker 2: going there? There's a.

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Speaker 17: Tough times for two thirds of the country. A massive

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Speaker 17: storm is blanketing thirty four states. This storm is lashing

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Speaker 17: part of the US that usually is immune, including parts

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Speaker 17: of Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. It's causing extensive power failures.

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Speaker 17: It's also causing chaos for air travel. More than ten

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Speaker 17: thousand flights have been canceled for today. That's the most

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Speaker 17: for a single day since the COVID pandemic. The ice

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Speaker 17: of snow is expected to linger for some days, even

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Speaker 17: bringing blizzards and whiteouts to Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but skiers a happy bait. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know because they're all over the social media. Richard

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Speaker 2: adad from America. I think you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: It is nine minutes to seven. There's a thing are

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Speaker 2: you using the weight loss drug? There's some funny things

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Speaker 2: happening because of the weight loss drag. More on that next.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the mic, asking Breakfast with the Defender

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Speaker 1: and news togs dead.

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Speaker 2: B all right, Bartie drives our after seven. There is

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Speaker 2: a review been announced kirkhas is the investigation into the

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Speaker 2: tragedy going to look at the odors of the mountain

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Speaker 2: and what they did to mitigate risks. And I know

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Speaker 2: what you're talking about there. You're talking about Mali who

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Speaker 2: took over in two thousand and seven, so I know

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Speaker 2: some of the blame game over the weekend was on

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Speaker 2: co governance. Another textas says that you have not mentioned

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Speaker 2: the other big elephant in the room, how all those

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Speaker 2: trees got cut down to it like a city council

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Speaker 2: and active partner in the face of that. And this,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is a very important thing to talk

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Speaker 2: about because mini manga throughout Auckland have exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So we need to learn about that me and one

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Speaker 2: must says, we haven't even found the bodies yet at

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Speaker 2: the campground, so isn't it a bit disrespectful to be

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Speaker 2: talking about a blame game at the moment? What would

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Speaker 2: you think if it was your loved one in there?

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Speaker 2: But loved ones are looking for answers as to why

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Speaker 2: this happened, and I get that as well, And there

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Speaker 2: is the need to find meaning in the tragedy and

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Speaker 2: what happens if it rains tomorrow like it rained last

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Speaker 2: week and we make the same mistakes all over again.

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Speaker 2: I think it is time to start talking, and Mahidreza

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Speaker 2: will be talking after seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So the old weight loss drugs, the old zempic and

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Speaker 2: stuff causing a lot of different trends to emerge. So

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Speaker 2: University College in London looked at all the data. One

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Speaker 2: point six million people use the weight loss jabs in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. That's a lot, but how about this,

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Speaker 2: there's another six times that number who said they'd be

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Speaker 2: interested in trying the drugs. So anyway, the university looked

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Speaker 2: into the trends that have emerged. First is the grocery shop.

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Speaker 2: Apparently the food bill has gone down because people are

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Speaker 2: eating smaller meals and they're eating things like smoothies and

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Speaker 2: protein rich products and therefore they're buying nest in the grocery.

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Speaker 2: The restaurants are suffering and those are offering takeaways because

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Speaker 2: people just date eaten so much. The reports here's the

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Speaker 2: number of takeaways ordered at nights out at restaurants have

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Speaker 2: dropped significant and they contribute to both these weight loss

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Speaker 2: drest They say this is because of the weight loss jabs. Plus,

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Speaker 2: of course there's the economy. Restaurants like Heston Blumenthales that

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Speaker 2: are fat duck now have new menus, smaller portions geared

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Speaker 2: towards those who are in appetite suppressed. Its supermarkets losing

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Speaker 2: out on booze money because the quitting the booze at

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Speaker 2: the same time. So the food businesses aren't doing well.

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Speaker 2: Two sectors though, are first if you sell clothes, because

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Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of skinny clothes whose fat clothes

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Speaker 2: no longer fit an he wore, so that he made

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Speaker 2: a whole new wardrobe. And then of course, plastic surgery.

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Speaker 2: Data from the British Esthetic Plastic Surgeons showed an eight

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Speaker 2: percent increase in facelifts from twenty twenty four, and the

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Speaker 2: President says there's a pattern that they're seeing from weight

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Speaker 2: loss drug patients as they try to get rid of

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Speaker 2: all that loose skin because you lose all the fat

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Speaker 2: round the tummy and then your tummy ends out around

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Speaker 2: your knees, going with bly whob. You've got to cut

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Speaker 2: that off as well. So look at this everything, Everything

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Speaker 2: has unintended or sometimes even intended consequences, doesn't it. So

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Speaker 2: it's coming up what three minutes to seven, Mahi Drivesdale

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Speaker 2: is moments away later. We're going to talk about these

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Speaker 2: new rules about pets being allowed in rental properties. Is

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Speaker 2: it working because some people say at eight I'm Andrew

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Speaker 2: Dickins and for Mike Hosking, who's back to tomorrow? And

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Speaker 2: this is new steals been.

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Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't. Andrew Dickens on the my

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Speaker 1: asking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life, Your Way,

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Speaker 1: News Dogs head b.

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Speaker 2: So good morning to you. At seven after seven so

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Speaker 2: workers halted at the site of the Mount montinery slip

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Speaker 2: after concerns from geotechs around potential future slips. Six people

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Speaker 2: remain unaccounted for. Police have now shifted to a recovery phase.

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Speaker 2: Turtling and City councilors or also ordered an independent review

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Speaker 2: into the tragedy to establish and examine all the relevant

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Speaker 2: facts of Marhi Drysdale is the Turtling a mayor and

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Speaker 2: joins us Now, good morning to you, Mahi, good morning.

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Speaker 2: You had a tear in your eye on the telly

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 19: This is a gut wrencher, it as and you know,

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Speaker 19: I think, really you've just got to think what this

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Speaker 19: is like for the families of you know, Lisa Man's, Sharon,

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Speaker 19: Max Susan, you know, it's it's and sorry Jackville, and

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Speaker 19: you know it's it's incredibly hard all being and you

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Speaker 19: know we can feel it and our community can certainly

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Speaker 19: feel that pain.

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Speaker 2: I'll be lucky to see work resume in the slip today.

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Speaker 19: Very hopeful. So last night we had some specialist equipment

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Speaker 19: flown in from Wellington that has been set up last night.

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Speaker 19: The engineers are currently up there at the moment, just

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Speaker 19: ensuring that it's safe for the last thing we wanted

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Speaker 19: to do.

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Speaker 20: Obviously, is is put the rescue workers at risk.

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Speaker 2: There are concerns that the cordon's too big and it's

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Speaker 2: affecting businesses. Couldn't we open marine parade?

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Speaker 19: Look, that is something that we were acutely aware of.

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Speaker 19: We're working very closely with police and we would hope

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Speaker 19: that the cordon will be will be mate smaller over

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Speaker 19: the next couple of days, and you know, we're going

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Speaker 19: to get alongside, you know, some of those businesses and

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Speaker 19: help them out because this is obviously not something that

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Speaker 19: that is you know they're doing, and you know they're

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Speaker 19: they've been caught up in it. But you know, our

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Speaker 19: community has been absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 2: So you've ordered a review. Some say it might be

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Speaker 2: too early for a blame game because people are still

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Speaker 2: in the ground.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely, so we're not progressing that work until those those

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Speaker 19: six people. I mentioned earlier are all brought home to

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Speaker 19: their families. But you know, there is some some answers

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Speaker 19: that need to be sorry, some questions that need to

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Speaker 19: be answered, and you know, we're we're acutely aware that

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Speaker 19: we need to do something. We need to have a

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Speaker 19: good process and we need to get the facts out

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Speaker 19: there so so that those questions can be answered.

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Speaker 2: So what are the terms of references? Who's doing it

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Speaker 2: and will it be completely independent and wide ranging?

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Speaker 19: Be completely independent? We at this stage, we we don't

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Speaker 19: have someone to do it, and we're still working on

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Speaker 19: the terms of reference, so you know, out of respect

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Speaker 19: for the families, as as I said before, and until

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Speaker 19: we move on to the next phase, and the next

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Speaker 19: phase happens once we've returned the loved ones to their families,

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Speaker 19: then we will we will start to work. But what

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Speaker 19: I will give you as an assurances will stand that

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Speaker 19: up quickly once once we we've recovered those bodies. And

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Speaker 19: you know this, there's a lot of people, you know,

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Speaker 19: talking and having opinions, but we need to we need

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Speaker 19: facts and we need to see exactly what people knew

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Speaker 19: when and and look at the decisions that were made

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Speaker 19: around that. So that's that's very much, you know, for

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Speaker 19: the sake of the families, for our community, and you know,

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Speaker 19: for for ourselves, knowing that that everything was done that

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Speaker 19: that could be done.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people ask me why the trees were

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Speaker 2: cut down by the Toronto Council and the order of

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Speaker 2: among authority. Can you answer that now or is that

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Speaker 2: too early? Too uh?

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Speaker 19: That will be all all looked at along with you know,

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Speaker 19: the slope and stability. What did we know, what did

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Speaker 19: we not and you know what did we know in

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Speaker 19: the morning of the event. You know, was there a slip?

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Speaker 19: You know who who was notified about that? You know

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Speaker 19: what decisions were made, et cetera. So that there's there's

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Speaker 19: a lot of information, you know, but we are we

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Speaker 19: are just very clear. The terms of reference will only

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Speaker 19: be up until about nine twenty three when the slip happened.

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Speaker 19: Anything that happened after that, there'll be further investigations, I'm

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Speaker 19: sure by the the relevant parties, and clearly you know,

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Speaker 19: with with the sad loss of life, you know the

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Speaker 19: coroner will will also step in. We're not we're not

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Speaker 19: trying to get in the way of those investigations. Those

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Speaker 19: will happen, but you know, we want to know from

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Speaker 19: what happened up until the time of that slip, and

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Speaker 19: what have.

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Speaker 2: We learned for tomorrow, because allegations are fine that we've

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Speaker 2: had five years of extreme weather on the East Coast

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Speaker 2: and multiple occurrences of this kind of events and slippages

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Speaker 2: all over the place, and this could have been predicted.

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Speaker 2: So how can we be sure that places are safe

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Speaker 2: if it starts to rain like it rained last week,

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Speaker 2: but it rains like this tomorrow.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, look at the end of the day, we live

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Speaker 19: in a country of in stable soils, and you know,

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Speaker 19: hug do you look at any event we're going to

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Speaker 19: have slips. It's very hard in a lot of cases

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Speaker 19: to predict where and when those those may happen. And

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Speaker 19: you know, I think if we went and red stick

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Speaker 19: at every every house in the city that was around

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Speaker 19: a potential slip, you know, I don't think I don't

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Speaker 19: think that would satisfy. So you know, there is it's

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Speaker 19: about risk, it's about managing risk, and you know, unfortunately

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Speaker 19: sometimes you know, these sort of things happen. This is

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Speaker 19: that tragedy, and we want to know whether there should

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Speaker 19: have been more done, and you know, those those of

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Speaker 19: a sort of lessons that we need to take and

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Speaker 19: we need to learn and make sure that the community

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Speaker 19: is safe.

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Speaker 2: All right, Marty, you came carry on and I thank

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Speaker 2: you for your time today. That's Markey Drives now turning.

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Speaker 1: A mayor Andrew dickens, Well, we've.

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Speaker 2: Got some calls for changes to our short term accommodation

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Speaker 2: rules and a bit to free up housing stock. So

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Speaker 2: over the ditch in Sydney, they're reviewing restrictions on Airbnb,

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Speaker 2: including its one hundred and eighty day cat With around

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Speaker 2: five thousand homes currently tied up, Queen sounds feeling the pinch.

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Speaker 2: Around a third of the homes are empty on any

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Speaker 2: given night due to short term rentals like Airbnb. And

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Speaker 2: Ed McKnight is resident economist at op Ope's partner and

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Speaker 2: it's with us now, Ed, good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, is this any of our business. Surely people can

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Speaker 2: do what they want with their house.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's currently the approach with the government, so I

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Speaker 21: wouldn't expect to see too much change at the moment.

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Speaker 21: But I can understand why Sydney's bringing this up at

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Speaker 21: the moment. They're at a very different part of their

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Speaker 21: property cycle since the bottom of the markets that the

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Speaker 21: house prices are up ten percent. Up here in Auckland,

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Speaker 21: they're basically flat, haven't started increasing. In Willington, the property

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Speaker 21: market hasn't bottomed out. House price is still going down.

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Speaker 21: So because you see those pressures of higher higher house

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Speaker 21: prices over at Australia, you can see exactly why they're

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Speaker 21: talking about that at the moment. The one thing I'd

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Speaker 21: just say to the Mayor of Queenstown, who's quite interested

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Speaker 21: in bringing in some more restrictions, is you've just got

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Speaker 21: to remember if you take away AIRB and B in Queenstown,

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Speaker 21: it doesn't necessarily mean many many more houses available for

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Speaker 21: sale or available for renters because there are a bunch

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Speaker 21: of rich Australias and ach Auckland is their own holiday

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Speaker 21: homes in Queenstown.

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Speaker 9: You know it just down there.

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Speaker 21: A couple of weeks ago stated a very very lovely

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Speaker 21: short term accommodation didn't get it off. The Airbnb got

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Speaker 21: it off at different website. But if that website didn't

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Speaker 21: exist anymore, and this couple who owned the property couldn't

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Speaker 21: rented out. It's their holiday home. So it's not like

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Speaker 21: they're going to be renting it out for some Queenstown local.

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Speaker 2: So as New Zealand on the same sort of scale

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Speaker 2: as say, I don't know Barce and Loona and are

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Speaker 2: we heading that way.

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Speaker 21: I wouldn't say whether it's Barcelona, but it's very actually

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Speaker 21: similar to Sydney. About ten thousand airbn bear's at Auckland

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Speaker 21: about three types that in Sydney, and they've got roughly

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Speaker 21: three types of the population.

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Speaker 15: But I see it as.

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Speaker 21: Quite a small problem here, at least in Auckland, because

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Speaker 21: Auckland's a bit of a gateway city to the rest

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Speaker 21: of the country as opposed to a destination itself like Barcelona.

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Speaker 21: About less than two percent of dwellings or properties in

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Speaker 21: Auckland are on Airbnb at the moment, would make up

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Speaker 21: less than five percent of rental properties.

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Speaker 2: All right, Ed mc knight, I thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: Ed McKnight a resident economist at Oph's partner. And this

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Speaker 2: is news talk z be. So the rules on tenants,

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Speaker 2: while we keep with housing, the rules on tenants with

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Speaker 2: pets have changed, presumably to make it easier for people

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Speaker 2: renting and to have a pet, but has that really

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Speaker 2: changed the situation. We'll talk to a property manager. Next,

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Speaker 2: it's seven sixteen.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB. Rob writes Andrew Council's staff. We're there at

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Speaker 2: seven forty five. How come that woman was warning people

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Speaker 2: up to nine thirty? And what did the council do?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is what the review will answer eventually. But

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Speaker 2: remember people are still in the ground. That woman who

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Speaker 2: was warning people was Lisa mcclennan. Last hour, I mistakenly

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Speaker 2: caught her. Linda McLennan, Tracy noticed. I apologize. It was

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Speaker 2: a slip at the tongue. Lisa McLennan was warning people

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Speaker 2: all the way up to nine thirty and got caught herself.

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Speaker 2: Lisa mcclennan is a great hero. It's seven nineteen, right.

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Speaker 2: We've got some trouble brewing around the new rental rules

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Speaker 2: allowing pet tenants. The changes come into force in December,

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Speaker 2: requiring landlords to have reasonable grounds to refuse pets and

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Speaker 2: allowing pet bonds to cover potential damage, but many renters say,

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Speaker 2: actually nothing's changed. Landlords simply reject applications evolving pets and

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Speaker 2: avoid scrutiny. So Mike Atkinson is a spy, a properties

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Speaker 2: managing director. He's with us this morning. Good morning to your.

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Speaker 15: Mike, good morning, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: What is happening? Are landlord's rejecting people with pets even more?

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Speaker 19: Now?

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Speaker 15: I wouldn't say even more, but in terms of when

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Speaker 15: a tenant is actually looking for a rental property, the

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Speaker 15: landlord can always choose the lower risk tenancy and they

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Speaker 15: see that as someone that doesn't have a pet. So

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Speaker 15: there's nothing in the new law that prevents a landlord

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Speaker 15: from just choosing an application that doesn't have a pet.

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Speaker 2: And is it fair enough that they are rejecting pet owners?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 15: I think so they do carry it does carry extra

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Speaker 15: risk and landlords are just looking to remove that. Something

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Speaker 15: could be done in terms of maybe some better sarrance

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Speaker 15: policy protection that landlords could have, because it's just about

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Speaker 15: managing potential losses caused by pet damage.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we talked about the pet bond that's new. Does

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Speaker 2: that give or should that give home owners confidence and

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Speaker 2: taking on a tenant with a pet.

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Speaker 15: It does give them a little bit of extra confidence,

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Speaker 15: but you can have a situation where a pet can

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Speaker 15: damage the entire carpet of a rental property and that's

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Speaker 15: going to greatly exceed two weeks rent, and so people

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Speaker 15: are just trying to avoid that situation.

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Speaker 2: And are we hearing about tenants actually making an application

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Speaker 2: and then revealing the pet after they've moved in.

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Speaker 15: That hasn't happened to us yet, but if I know

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Speaker 15: eventually that will happen because the current law means that

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Speaker 15: once you've got the property, it's much easier to get

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Speaker 15: a pet, but it is still difficult to get one

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Speaker 15: with a tet. So it does make sense that eventually

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Speaker 15: people will start sort of gaining the system, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, but your advice will big still list the animals

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Speaker 2: on their application, and remember that the owners actually do

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Speaker 2: have some rights.

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Speaker 15: Absolutely, the owners have got rights. And it's a bad

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Speaker 15: way to start off a tenancy if you sort of

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Speaker 15: dishonest right at the start. Your landlord is going to

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Speaker 15: be annoyed if they think that you gained the new

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Speaker 15: law to get your dog or cat in, and that's

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Speaker 15: just not a great way to start a tendancy.

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Speaker 2: Mike, all the best, and I thank you for your

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Speaker 2: time today. Mike Atkinson has just joined us from us

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Speaker 2: by a property. He's the managing director. There it's seven

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Speaker 2: twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks B coming up seven twenty five. So the

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Speaker 2: tragedy at the mount it's heartbreakingly sad. And as soon

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Speaker 2: as it happened, protests broke out by climate activists aimed

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Speaker 2: at the Prime Minister. And the same day those protests

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Speaker 2: would then criticize as politicizing the tragedy. Surely that criticism

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Speaker 2: in itself was also an oblique way of politicizing the tragedy.

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Speaker 2: So was it any better? And then all weekend long

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Speaker 2: we had the blame game raging and the politicization continued.

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Speaker 2: The man who reckoned he saw the slips starting on

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Speaker 2: his morning walk asked why no one did anything, from

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Speaker 2: the council to the park operators, the social media players

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Speaker 2: who blamed the Maori who had been in charge of

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Speaker 2: the mountain since two thousand and seven. They spent the

834
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Speaker 2: weekend blaming co governance, the retards to the planning experts

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Speaker 2: said the problems have long been recognized and yet nobody

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Speaker 2: does anything about them. The cutting down of the trees,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Edwards hopped into the argument argued, it's not too

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Speaker 2: soon to blame, but in fact too late, because the

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Speaker 2: warning signs were historical and they should have been recognized earlier.

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Speaker 2: The blame game is played to find somebody responsible for

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Speaker 2: hurting us, But the people who carry the blame for

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Speaker 2: this tragedy is pretty much everybody. I've already mentioned in

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Speaker 2: the last minute. Everybody that in fact was blamed this

844
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Speaker 2: weekend had a little bit of blame connected to them. Collectively,

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Speaker 2: all the missteps contributed to the death of six people.

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Speaker 2: And we have a collective responsibility as well as a

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Speaker 2: personal responsibility, and we need to find out what happened,

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Speaker 2: and we need to fix it. And there will be

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Speaker 2: a review. We've heard that from Martin Dreisdale this morning.

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Speaker 2: But the fear is again the lessons won't be heated.

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Speaker 2: We've had this before, whether it's Pike River or Cave

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Speaker 2: Creek or the Wahine. After a time has passed, we

853
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Speaker 2: have a review, we get some ideas, but by that

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Speaker 2: stage the heat has gone out of the argument. Will

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Speaker 2: the lessons be heated? And one lesson I have for

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Speaker 2: you today is to trust your common sense the way

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Speaker 2: Lisa mcclennan did. She could see what was happening in

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Speaker 2: front of her own eyes. She took personal responsibility and

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Speaker 2: she warned people, don't go into the loose. Don't go

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Speaker 2: in there right now, look at that hill. And then

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Speaker 2: in doing that she lost her own life. If you

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Speaker 2: see something, if you can concerned, say something. If you're

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Speaker 2: a park operator and you think something might happen, well

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Speaker 2: it might happen, So do something. And maybe you should

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Speaker 2: not just blindly trust your fellow citizens who say, sweet

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Speaker 2: snaphappen before, don't worry about it. These are the lessons

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Speaker 2: we need to learn from the blame game. And yes

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Speaker 2: the blame game is early, and yes people are still

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Speaker 2: in the ground, but we need to learn the lessons because,

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Speaker 2: as I've said before, it could happen again tomorrow. Now,

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Speaker 2: do shops close too early in New Zealand? Are they

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Speaker 2: open at the right time for us to shop? We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about this in five and we'll talk about Sam Ruth,

874
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Speaker 2: the amazing running genius.

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Speaker 1: Tough on Power, shot up on Insight, Andrew Dickens on

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Speaker 1: the mic asking Breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the Impossible News,

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Speaker 1: Toms Dead b Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Sir Wayne Smith is leading New Zealand rugby. And

879
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Speaker 2: it's got nothing to do with if I believe with

880
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: the fact that Scott Robertson has lost his job, but

881
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: he had seen a rugby roll. He's going to a

882
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Speaker 2: new position overseas. We're not sure quite what, but this

883
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: is bad news for rugby. We're going to talk about

884
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 2: the losing of the professor with Andrew Saville and Jason Pang. Yes,

885
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Speaker 2: the commentary box is back after eight o'clock this morning

886
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Speaker 2: here on News Talks. Hebo We're shop here, We're shopping,

887
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Speaker 2: and the age old debate is back front and center.

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00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: Questions are being raised about whether our shopping hours and

889
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: retail system are fit for today's reality. Retail industry experts

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Speaker 2: argue store ours are stuck in the past, built for

891
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: a nine to five world that no longer exists, with

892
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Speaker 2: calls for retailers to adapt to change in consumer habits

893
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Speaker 2: and of course, tourism driven demand. So one Nita Neveltito

894
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Speaker 2: is a retailer marketing expert at the RX Group and

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Speaker 2: is with us this morning. One to You, one NCTA,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Andrew is ninety five.

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Speaker 10: Dead look new Zellain's early shopping times that we're experiencing

898
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 10: our retail system that we're designed really for the nineteen nineties.

899
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 10: If we think about how customers live now, they finish later,

900
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 10: they live digitally, and they expect functionality, you know, and flexibility.

901
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 10: So it isn't that every shop should stay open later.

902
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 10: It's just that many shops on open up at the

903
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Speaker 10: wrong times currently.

904
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Speaker 2: So what are the right times? I mean, should we

905
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: just flag away opening at nine because everybody is too

906
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: busy working? Should we actually say to everybody really should

907
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: open at ten and you should stay up until six

908
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Speaker 2: or seven?

909
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Speaker 10: Okay? I think what we've seen when it works well

910
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 10: is that store alone hours that align with how people

911
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 10: actually live works really really well, and when it doesn't,

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00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 10: it creates this enormous frustration for customers and unnecessary costs

913
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Speaker 10: for retailers. So I think there needs to be this

914
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Speaker 10: opportunity for people to really focus on the demand, stay

915
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Speaker 10: open when the foot traffic is there, and don't just

916
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Speaker 10: drive costs into your business.

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Speaker 2: Now that complained about trading hours has always been in

918
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Speaker 2: tourist hotspots, and you know, we've had continual debates about this,

919
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: concerns about workers, but also concerns about people just not

920
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: being able to buy stuff. This is a common complaint,

921
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Speaker 2: isn't it. Should our tourism hotspots be looking at opening longer.

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Look, I think absolutely they need to be looking at

924
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Speaker 10: what their trading hours are.

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Speaker 9: If you know there's a giant boat.

926
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Speaker 10: Coming into town, you need to be open there because

927
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Speaker 10: it's an opportunity. That's for traffic, and also there's an

928
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Speaker 10: opportunity for retailers in those areas to collaborate to make

929
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Speaker 10: sure that that like training works because you can't have

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Speaker 10: one store open and the others aren't. It's about a

931
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Speaker 10: cohesive approach for our tourists so that they come and

932
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Speaker 10: have the best experience possible and they'll spend money if

933
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Speaker 10: the stores are open.

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Speaker 2: Do we need to make rules and regulations or is

935
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Speaker 2: it more about you know, business people associations getting together

936
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Speaker 2: and doing what's right for their customers and also for

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Speaker 2: their workers.

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Speaker 10: Oh, you're one hundred percent right there. It's not rules.

939
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Speaker 10: It's about associations and collaborations. It's not about some sort

940
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 10: of revolution. It's recollaboration. It's about retailers getting together and

941
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Speaker 10: understanding their customers and not simply staying open longer because

942
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Speaker 10: it's a habit, you actually meet the demand and you

943
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Speaker 10: also create the demand. And we've seen that work in

944
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Speaker 10: many centers. And if we think about it, you know

945
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Speaker 10: places like min to ten open super early for tradees,

946
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Speaker 10: so de bunning. So some retailers have really got it

947
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Speaker 10: and they've expanded where it makes sense.

948
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Speaker 2: There are some businesses that have never opened on weekends.

949
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Speaker 2: Many pharmacies have never opened on weekends. What would you

950
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Speaker 2: say to them? Would that practice actually would that practice

951
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: be actually hurting them and their bottom line and their margins?

952
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Speaker 10: Look yet to know, you've got opening about the community

953
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Speaker 10: that you're in, and for some communities you've opening on

954
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 10: the weekend simply just doesn't make sense. And many of

955
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 10: these businesses are owner operators, so that would stretch them

956
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Speaker 10: to the limit. But if you have a look at it,

957
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 10: you know the growth of someone like a chemist warehouse

958
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 10: has come in and just acquired market share because they're

959
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Speaker 10: open at really early time nine pm at night, and

960
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Speaker 10: that's got to have an impact. So yeah, I think

961
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Speaker 10: it has hurt them.

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Speaker 2: I need to write thank you for your time. I

963
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Speaker 2: need a Neville Victo who is a retail and marketing expert,

964
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Speaker 2: and I've got a text through already from Sarah who said,

965
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Speaker 2: we have family over from Canada for the Christmas holidays

966
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Speaker 2: and they could not believe that nothing was open in

967
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Speaker 2: New Zealand. It just included restaurants and shops and they

968
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Speaker 2: thought it was very strange how we had such a

969
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Speaker 2: limiting limited shopping options. And this woman I need to

970
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Speaker 2: is absolutely correct. We need to get with the times.

971
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Speaker 2: And the comments I got from my family, says Sarah.

972
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Speaker 2: The ones that came from Canada said, this is like

973
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Speaker 2: twenty years ago. Do we want to be like twenty

974
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Speaker 2: years ago? Twenty years ago? It's quite cool though, really

975
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Speaker 2: it's quite comfy. No, we do not, says Glenn Okay

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Speaker 2: two ninety two. It is a text I always think

977
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Speaker 2: there and then I go to Australia and have you

978
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Speaker 2: ever tried to buy things on a Sunday in Australia?

979
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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 2: It's hard work? Is that it is hard works?

981
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

982
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Speaker 2: Fair enough? So it's that forty years ago in Australia.

983
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two is the text number. What do

984
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: you think a small charge does apply? This is news

985
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Speaker 2: talks hereb What about Sam ruth A? My god, this

986
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: kid is sixteen? He did a mile and three minutes

987
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Speaker 2: fifty three. Some of us are old enough to remember

988
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: Banister just breaking the four minute mile. This guy is sixteen.

989
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: He's doing it in three point fifty three. Oh, hold on,

990
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Speaker 2: I can remember John Walker's world mile record three point

991
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: forty nine point four. This guy was only four seconds behind.

992
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: He's sixteen. We'd love to talk to him, but we

993
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Speaker 2: can't because he's going to New York right now, because

994
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: you know he's an international phenomenon. We'll talk to his

995
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Speaker 2: dad before eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News talks a b.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so text through saying traveling around the United States,

999
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: we know to shops didn't open till ten or eleven

1000
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Speaker 2: in the morning, So that's interesting. Though another person has

1001
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Speaker 2: texted as head minimum wage in the States is twelve

1002
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Speaker 2: twenty five New Zealand equivalent. That's why they're open all hours.

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Speaker 2: Our employers couldn't afford it to be open longer. What

1004
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Speaker 2: do you think ninety two ninety two is the text number.

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00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: So on Friday, I went to Hamilton, I did the

1006
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Speaker 2: early edition show, then I finished that, got got up

1007
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: at three in the morning, then I finished that drove

1008
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: to the why Kado and I went there for a reason.

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Speaker 2: It was the first public performance at the brand new

1010
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Speaker 2: b n zed why Caato Regional Theater. So this is

1011
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: a theater that was built because Founders Theater, the big

1012
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: theater in Hamilton, had to close in twenty sixteen because

1013
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: it was an earthquake proof and so they had to

1014
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: close it. And they thought, we've got no theater. We've

1015
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: got global Box arena, that's all well and good, and

1016
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Speaker 2: we got outdoor stuff. We've got the stadiums, we've got

1017
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Speaker 2: great cricket ground. We have no theater. We have to

1018
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: have a theater. So the good people of the White

1019
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: Catto which had Riverley Theater. But that's just a little theater. Yeah,

1020
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Speaker 2: that's two hundred and fifty people. I mean, why we're

1021
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: talking about here is a fourteen hundred seater venue. Okay,

1022
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Speaker 2: So the good people of why Katto got together a

1023
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Speaker 2: commit de and the commit there started thinking about raising

1024
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: some money and a bit accounts of money and government

1025
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Speaker 2: money came in, but not not nearly enough because no

1026
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: one's got any money. And they started raising private money.

1027
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: And this committee faced so many uphill up, you know,

1028
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: down winds and up winds and wins from the left,

1029
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 2: winds from the right. Everyone was going, Oh.

1030
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 22: Why don't you just spend the money fixing up the

1031
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 22: Founder's Theater. I liked the Founder's theater. I saw I

1032
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 22: saw mister Morrison at the Founder's Theater with the whole

1033
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 22: Mildi quartet.

1034
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: Just fix up the Founder's Theater. But the theater was

1035
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: already rubble. Anyway, they went through all of this, people

1036
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: saying it's in the wrong place. It's in the middle

1037
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: of town. There's no parking in the middle of town. Yes,

1038
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: there was. What are you doing? This is just a waste.

1039
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: This is a nice to have, not a need to have. Anyway,

1040
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: they raised eighty million bucks and they built this theater.

1041
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: And the reason they built it was a lot of

1042
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: because of private donation and also a whole other guys

1043
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: who actually built the theater took a hell of a

1044
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: loss on it, and they knew they were going to

1045
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: take a loss on it because of COVID and everything,

1046
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: but they didn't mind because that was their contribution to

1047
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: the city. It was their legacy. And now it's finished. God,

1048
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: it is very probably the best theater in New Zealand.

1049
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: It is a work of art. It's behind the old

1050
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: Hamilton hotel that the queens stayed and they've kept the staircase.

1051
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: It's right in the middle of the town, right beside

1052
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: the museum, right beside the entertainment precinct. It's all glitzy.

1053
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: It's got beautiful bars, it's got a beautiful restaurant and

1054
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: the space of it itself. You walk in, it's like

1055
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: an old fashioned theater, so you've got your stalls and

1056
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: then it just goes up and you walk in and

1057
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: the first thing you realize is it's dead. And by dead,

1058
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean sound dead. It's like walking into a recording studio.

1059
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: It's incredible. And so we turned up for the very

1060
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Speaker 2: first public performance. It was by Tiaks, who is the

1061
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: New Zealand singer. Beautiful voice, extraordinary body. It only took

1062
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: two songs from before the good people of the Whitecadow

1063
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: started going take your shirt off. It sounded great, the

1064
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: venue was great, and I just want to congratulate everybody

1065
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: who fought against all the naysayers and all the people

1066
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: who say no. And how many of these have we had?

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00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: How long did it take to build the Kiddy to

1068
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: kind of a theater. I mean we had Tim Schabbolt

1069
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: talking about a stadium, indoor stadium in Auckland for years

1070
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: before for Victor Arena, now Spark Arena ever took place.

1071
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: Everyone has a reason why we should say no, but

1072
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Speaker 2: never a reason why we should say yes. And people

1073
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: would say, but it's a theater. This theater is going

1074
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: to buzz, It's going to bring a lot of famous

1075
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: people there. It's going to be the heart of the city.

1076
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Speaker 2: And I just think it's marvelous. And then driving home,

1077
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: I got down to one percent on my electric vehicle

1078
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: and only just managed to limp into the Bombay recharge thing,

1079
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: and boy I got it in the neck. About that

1080
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: my first ever bit of range anxiety. But do I

1081
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: regret an electric car?

1082
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Speaker 3: No?

1083
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Speaker 2: I do not. Does why Kadow regret their new theater?

1084
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: No they do not. Ten to eight. So there's a

1085
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Speaker 2: feather by the name of Ben Ruth and he is

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Speaker 2: the father of Sam Ruth and his son is a

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Speaker 2: rocket ship. Whether Ben is a rocket ship as well,

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Speaker 2: and it's genetic, I don't know. We'll meet Ben next.

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Speaker 2: Here are news talks.

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Speaker 1: Here be Andrew Dickins on the My Casting Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate news talk Zibby.

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Speaker 2: Texas says, Dickens, were you just trying to take on

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00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: Sir Tim Shadbolt just then? No, we're trying to take

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00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: on Tam Tambolt and be it'd be more like this.

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00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: That wasn't a very good one. I've done better Tim

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00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: Shadbolts in my life. But there we go. Now, what

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Speaker 2: I was trying to sound like was a white heat

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00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: a naysayer, So there we go. The dream continues for

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Speaker 2: a teen running sensation, Sam Ruth. He became the fastest

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Speaker 2: ever sixteen year old to run the mile following this

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Speaker 2: weekend's Cooks Classic. He stopped the clock at three point

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Speaker 2: fifty three point eight three. He was beaten by his

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Speaker 2: best mate, Sam Tanner, who's quite a bit older but

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Speaker 2: also a very fight and runner. Sam Tanner is not sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Sam Ruth is the run smashed the previous age group

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Speaker 2: record by one point five seconds. Who was just sent

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Speaker 2: by Ozzig by David cam Myers back in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Sam Ruth stad as Ben Ruth, who joins me, Now.

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Speaker 20: Okay, mate, here, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: He's a rocket ship.

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Speaker 23: It He just keeps surprising us.

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Speaker 20: Really we try and pick prick the time that he's

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Speaker 20: going to run before the race, and we always get wrong.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So where does this record put him in the

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00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: open men's categories? He's obviously the fastest team on the planet,

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00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: but what about amongst men and with the Olympics coming

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00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: up and all that carry on.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, and that's sort of his wife something too. He

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00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 20: doesn't really want to consider where he is ranked as

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Speaker 20: a youth athlete.

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Speaker 5: But the.

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Speaker 20: Commerce Games, for example, the standard to get the comweals

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Speaker 20: s gamess three fifty one point eight.

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Speaker 23: For the mile.

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Speaker 20: It's a mile this year for the first time I

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Speaker 20: think since the late sixties that there has been a mile.

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Speaker 20: So three forty round and eight is the standard. Nobody

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Speaker 20: who's run that fast in New Zealand since Walker I

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Speaker 20: think once in the early nineteen eighties. As a you know,

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Speaker 20: this day of professional athletes that are training the altitude

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Speaker 20: full time that those are their salaries. You're basically the

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Speaker 20: fastest handful of runner than the world if you're breaking

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Speaker 20: three fifty and so okay, so three, he's got some

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Speaker 20: work to do.

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Speaker 2: But he's only sixteen. In fact, are we actually sort

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Speaker 2: of pushing Hi?

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Speaker 3: Mine?

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Speaker 2: A bit too soon. I know we're not talking to

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Speaker 2: him because he's on his way to America. He's a

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Speaker 2: sixteen year old who's already running internationally. Is he getting

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00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: pushed or or is he being promoted too soon? Can

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: we just chill out a bit and he'll be even

1143
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: better if we take it slow or not?

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Speaker 20: I mean, as his dad, that's probably one of my

1145
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 20: magic concerns, right, So my wife and I decided that

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00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 20: we wouldn't let him do any training until he started

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00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 20: at tod Rom a boy's college when he was almost

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00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 20: fourteen years old. So he's only been training for three

1149
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 20: years and then I've imposed that question. But all he's

1150
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 20: really doing is he just wants to turn up.

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Speaker 3: And have a race.

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Speaker 20: The challenge with that, he's just got to race fast people.

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Speaker 20: So to hold him back to you race him against

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Speaker 20: people who are slow, or do you or do you

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Speaker 20: get him to enjoy it? Which is the battle and

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Speaker 20: the challenge, And I think I think so, Han'm but

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00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 20: keep been joying the sport. He just he needs the

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Speaker 20: challenge and he loves it and wants it. So yeah,

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Speaker 20: we just want to keep give him the opportunity to do.

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Speaker 2: What he loves Are you the first one or was

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Speaker 2: it the mun.

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Speaker 20: He described me the other day as an average runner,

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Speaker 20: and I think by his standard on well below average.

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Speaker 20: I actually ran the That was the fastest mile running

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Speaker 20: New Zealand for twenty years actually and twenty years ago.

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Speaker 20: The reason why it was a super fast mile twenty

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Speaker 20: years ago is because it's a come off games for

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Speaker 20: three weeks later in Melbourne and Nick Wallis Randy fifty

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Speaker 20: two and I was fortunate enough to be in that race,

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Speaker 20: but I ran mo farwre the full time. Little bit

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Speaker 20: Gold Midliss was in that race too, he came third.

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Speaker 20: But I ran four flat point one in that race

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Speaker 20: and never broke four.

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Speaker 2: Minutes, and I'm desperately running out of time. I want

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Speaker 2: to ask one question is is he been the fastest?

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Speaker 2: Because Daisy was fifth in the open Women's Smile at

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Speaker 2: the age of fourteen, who's the fastest? Ruth Well, we'll

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Speaker 2: find out.

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Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic Andrew Dickens on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate, Doing real estate differently since nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three News Talks Dead beas spot.

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Speaker 24: You can't take your eyes off this team at the

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Speaker 24: moment Newcastle will.

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Speaker 3: Do it again.

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Speaker 2: It's the jet spot de beating the Wellington Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Once.

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Speaker 25: They say history never repeats, well it has here.

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Speaker 2: The Central Coast Mariners for the second.

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Speaker 25: Time in so seasons have come to Walkland and taken a.

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Speaker 3: Share of the points.

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Speaker 2: Finds the gap for four more and then I'll know it.

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Speaker 1: Dominance from India once again, they have absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Demolished New Zealand. Here Loithy this evening.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box with Spears Finance Smart Asset

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Speaker 1: and Equipment Finance for Kiwi businesses.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens in the commentary book Today Andrew Saville

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Speaker 2: and Jason Pine, and gentlemen, good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Morning.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sam Ruth, we just talked to his dad,

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Speaker 2: Smashes the mild world record for his age. He's just amazing,

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01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: isn't he. Jason.

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Speaker 25: He is certainly something special, that's for sure, and just

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01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 25: continues to amaze us with the world records.

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Speaker 3: That he sets.

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Speaker 25: I think he's very lucky to have Sam Tanner around

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 25: at the same time as a as a training partner,

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Speaker 25: as a I guess in some ways a mentor. You know,

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Speaker 25: Sam Ruth probably doesn't break that sixteen year old world

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 25: record on Saturday Night of Sam Tanner isn't in the

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Speaker 25: same race. So look, but I mean, you only you

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Speaker 25: can only imagine what the future might hold. I'm not

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Speaker 25: sure when middle distance runners are supposed to mature and

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Speaker 25: reach their peak, but I'm almost certain it's not sixteen.

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Speaker 25: So yeah, an incredibly bright future for this young man.

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 3: So isn't it usually in their thirties.

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Speaker 2: Or late late twenties late twenties. Yeah, you've got to

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: be able to grow the main like John Walker and

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: you know, and and do the whole business and have

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Speaker 2: the huge oxygen and take sav But here's the thing.

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01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: Is he getting pushed a little too fast too soon?

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: He's off to he's flying to New York right now,

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01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: he's competing internationally. I mean, he's taking up every challenge

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01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: that's put in front of him, and his exceeding expectations

1224
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: every single time. But is it all happening too quick?

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 24: I don't think so. You don't want to waste a

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Speaker 24: kid's talent. And I'd imagine listening to his father, and

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Speaker 24: having having listened to his parents quite often the last

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Speaker 24: year or two, the former runners themselves, I think they'll,

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Speaker 24: they'll they're not what they're doing. And I'm sure as

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Speaker 24: he gets older and a bigger name on a global stage,

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Speaker 24: if he hasn't already, he'll have a he'll have a

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Speaker 24: fairly decent management team around him. The exciting thing, Andrew,

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Speaker 24: a couple of things here is that we get to

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Speaker 24: have a ringside seat in watching this kid over the

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Speaker 24: next ten to fifteen years, and assuming he doesn't have

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Speaker 24: any major injuries, we have a chance here to see

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Speaker 24: what could be a young man who's about to become

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Speaker 24: one of our greatest years of athletes. And we get

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Speaker 24: a chance to watch them as he matures and to

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Speaker 24: his late teens in the twenties, which is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is no pressure.

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Speaker 24: Unless you go to a track and stand trackside and

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 24: watch these guys and girls running around in the fifteen

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01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 24: hundred mile or eight hundred let alone sprints, you don't.

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Speaker 24: Sometimes the television doesn't really reflect on how fast they

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 24: are actually running, even the milers they sprint the whole way.

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Speaker 24: Basically it's staggering.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, as Sam's dad just came

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Speaker 2: on and you said, the comm game's mild quality time

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: is three point fifty one, which is enormously fast, and

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Speaker 2: the question is could anyone actually make that? And that

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01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: also brings into a question this young New Zealand sprinter

1253
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: who said to get to the Common Games, I have

1254
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: to run a ten second one hundred meters. All these

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Speaker 2: are the qualities too high?

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Speaker 25: Well, and there's always you can always have exceptions because

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Speaker 25: I'm pretty sure that some of the minor nations, you know,

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Speaker 25: send athletes for the experience having not reached those qualifying marks.

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Speaker 25: I mean, they're there for a reason to ensure that,

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 25: you know, you do have high quality fields once you

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Speaker 25: reach the sharp end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 25: I mean the Sam Tanner's been to two Olympic Games,

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Speaker 25: so you know that's the that's the rarefied. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 25: operating in respective or compared to others. Sam Ruth's not

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Speaker 25: far away. It will be great to see them both

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Speaker 25: go to the Calm Games this year, wouldn't it in

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Speaker 25: the eight or fifteen hundred meters? But yeah, there's there's

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Speaker 25: a lot of there's a lot of improvement to come

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Speaker 25: in Sam Ruth and Sav's right, we're going to get

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Speaker 25: the chance to watch it, you know, very very close.

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Speaker 2: Up is he even the fastest Ruth? Because I didn't

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: quite get the time to ask this of the dad.

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Speaker 2: Daisy Ruth came fifth at the same meat in the

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01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: open women's miles. He's just fourteen. He's fourteen. I mean

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: they're all freaks. I mean, we need to clone this family.

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Speaker 3: Have some great jeens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, amazing, Okay, poney. We got thrashed by India

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Speaker 2: in cricket and I thought we were doing so well

1280
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Speaker 2: in the end of the fifty over game where were great.

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01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: We come down to the twenty over, the T twenty

1282
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: and that's what the World Cup is in and we

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01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: get thrash. What's going on?

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01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1285
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: Real reality check? Isn't it for this side? Not just once?

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01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 25: But that's three now comfortable wins and this morning the

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01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 25: most comfortable you know, the this upcoming World Cup. I

1288
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 25: think there was quite a lot of optimism, probably off

1289
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 25: the back of that one day series actually that New

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01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 25: Zealand might go go quite well, and they might still,

1291
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 25: but look what did the guy get this morning? A

1292
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 25: fourteen ball fifty You know we're talking, you know now

1293
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 25: the T twenty game is now if you're not over

1294
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 25: two hundred even two ten two twenty. You're not even

1295
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 25: in the game anymore on these Indian wickets, you know.

1296
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 25: And look, there's there's obviously still time for New Zealand

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 25: to get there, get their act together and compete well

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 25: at this T twenty World Cup. But India in home

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 25: conditions are going to be very tough to beat in

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Speaker 25: this World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and save I see that Bangladesh have been replaced

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Speaker 2: by Scotland because Bangor just refused to go to India

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Speaker 2: because of trouble.

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Speaker 3: Plucky Scott say, they'll do well. I didn't realized they

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Speaker 3: had a cricket team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is for the T twenty World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Obviously scott Scotland's going to play instead of Bangladesh. But

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Speaker 2: there we go. Well, of course they've got it.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 24: The thing about the thing about this Indian series, look,

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Speaker 24: T twenty games can be sometimes a lottery, so you

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Speaker 24: wouldn't write the black Caps chances off of the World Cup.

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Speaker 24: But after three heavy losses, the last couple of floggings,

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Speaker 24: you'd have to wonder what sort of damage this is

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Speaker 24: doing to them, especially the younger guys and the team.

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Speaker 24: A couple of the younger bowlers have been flogged.

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Speaker 3: Games.

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Speaker 23: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: On the on the flip side, you have loved watching

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Speaker 24: some of these Indian batsmen who we don't know too

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Speaker 24: much about, some of these younger Indian batsmen and the

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Speaker 24: tea twitty beautiful timers of the ball. There's nothing to them,

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Speaker 24: but they hit these massive shots and it is certainly

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01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 24: entertaining to watch.

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Speaker 2: In the commentary box, we've got Andrew seven and Jason Pimer,

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Speaker 2: got heaps of rugby to talk about, including Sir Wayne Smith.

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Speaker 2: This the professor is leaving New Zealand, so what's that about?

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Speaker 2: And I want to talk about the Winter Olympics as well.

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Speaker 2: It is eight fourteen on news Talks at B.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It balks B. It's the Commentary Box with Andrew Sevill.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Commentary Box, which is Finances, Smart and Equipment

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Speaker 1: Finance for Kiwi businesses.

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Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, Sir Wayne Smith, age of sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: leaving his senior in New Zealand rugby role for a

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Speaker 2: new position overseas, a senior coaching leadership job. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what it's had, a professional club whatever. It's all

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: cloaked in confidential als, he said he's done as much

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 2: as he can do under the strictures of the enzied job.

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Speaker 2: So sav is this more great New Zealand and Rugby talant.

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Speaker 2: We are losing we anti Ara's losing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 24: It's a shame. I think his deal had come to

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Speaker 24: a conclusion anyway. However, you'd certainly look at or at

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 24: least asking him if he wanted to be in the

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Speaker 24: mix with the new head coach about to be appointed,

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Speaker 24: if not in a high performance role or carrying on

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Speaker 24: some sort of role.

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Speaker 3: He's just too good to lose. So that's a great shame.

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Speaker 24: Look, I think over the last couple of years he

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 24: was initially signed on to help when needed the All

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Speaker 24: Blacks and the Black Ferns, and I think over the

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Speaker 24: last two years he's been totally underutilized and I think

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Speaker 24: that hasn't gone down with some people, including probably Sirwayne himself.

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Speaker 24: And he's had enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Parney. I mean he's sixty eight and

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Speaker 2: he's still got hunger. Yeah.

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Speaker 25: And I feel as though if you can have Wayne

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Speaker 25: Smith in your camp, you have him in your camp.

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Speaker 25: There aren't too many better Rugby brains. As we know,

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 25: there's a reason they call him the Professor. He seems

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 25: to add value even you know, regardless of the environment

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01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 25: he goes into, he adds value to that environment.

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Speaker 3: And for him not to.

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Speaker 25: Feel as though there was a place for him here,

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Speaker 25: I always felt like the job was a bit vague,

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Speaker 25: and maybe it was kept that way on purpose so

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Speaker 25: that he could be brought in as and when required.

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Speaker 25: Maybe he wanted more structure. I'm not sure, but yeah,

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Speaker 25: look to not have Wayne Smith rounds I think.

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Speaker 24: As I think in Jason, I think in twenty twenty

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01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 24: four he was hardly used, yeah, by both teams, and

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Speaker 24: then twenty five.

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Speaker 3: We saw him pop up at the All Blacks a

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 3: couple of times.

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Speaker 24: One week he was with the All Blacks they went

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Speaker 24: on to beat the spring Box at Eden Park and

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Speaker 24: that big, big game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, just totally underutilized. I think, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Is the vagueness not actually from Wayne but from New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby. They're vague.

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Speaker 25: Well yeah, well, yeah, it's certainly not Wayne Smith that

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 25: he would have said, you know, yes, I'd love this job,

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Speaker 25: and it was probably sold to him along the lines

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Speaker 25: of being there as and when required, which probably quite

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Speaker 25: appealed to him, you know. But yeah, as and when

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01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 25: required is not one week here in a couple of

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 25: days there, you say, look, we're going to use here

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Speaker 25: for fifteen weeks this year, and here they are kind

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 25: of thing. That's the kind of structure I feel as

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 25: though he would have relished and wasn't given to them.

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 24: You give them what the all Blacks have been through

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Speaker 24: the last couple of years, Andrew, I think, and David

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 24: Kirk will know this.

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01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 3: He's a smart cookie. The new chairman.

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Speaker 24: They need to bring a lot of these guys back

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 24: into the fold, the guys that have been there, done that,

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Speaker 24: the guys that have huge connection with the all black

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01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 24: jersey and the all black culture of yesteryear. I think

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 24: they need to not necessarily constantly whind the clock back

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01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 24: because the game has changed, yes, but they need to

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01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 24: use this. They need to use the experience that just

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 24: seems to be constantly going out the door.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But meanwhile, talking about the commercial imperatives versus you know,

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01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 2: wanting to give the spectators the people that asked what

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: we want, the all backs in the spring box are

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: going to play the fourth test of this year's greatest

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: rivalry series in Baltimore, in the United States of America,

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: seventy thousand seat M and T. Banks Stadium. It's going

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: to happen on the thirteenth of September. Pliny. Many people

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: grumble about this, that this is not good for rugby.

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: It might be good for the coffers, but it's actually

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Speaker 2: not good for rugby.

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 25: Well, I think in a widest sense that there's probably

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01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 25: a bit of agitating from World Rugby here. We know

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01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 25: that the Rugby World Cup is in the United States

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 25: and twenty thirty one, so any opportunity they have to

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 25: World Rugby that is to promote the sport over there.

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 25: And you know, let's be honest, there's no bit of

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 25: promotion of test rugby than South Africa against the All Blacks.

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01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 25: It seems so odd, doesn't it that you know that

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01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 25: one week, you know, this greatest rival is going to

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 25: be in Johannesburg, and then all of a sudden it's

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01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:47,520
Speaker 25: in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's just.

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Speaker 25: The that's where we are now, you know, that's exactly

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Speaker 25: where we are. Yes, the coffers will be filled up

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 25: and the promotional box will be ticked. I mean, I

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01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 25: think we'd all prefer it to be back in the Republic.

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Speaker 25: If you play South Africa, you know, four times, who

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Speaker 25: want to play them four times in South Africa.

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Speaker 3: Just like they used to.

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Speaker 24: But you know, I just assumed it would have been

1435
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 24: in London given the huge xpact community in both countries.

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01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 24: So if you had have asked me a couple of

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01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 24: weeks ago to pick a city around the world where

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01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 24: this fourth test is going to be, Baltimore probably would

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01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 24: have been.

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: Five or six hundred. Absolutely bizarre.

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 24: It's got one of the highest crime rates in America

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 24: and you're sending two teams who have absolutely no affiliation

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01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 24: to Baltimore and the wider community. I just don't get it.

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 24: And the other thing is I've said it time and

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 24: time and time again. They can have a World Cup

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 24: in America, they can send me all blacks to the

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01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 24: Americas every second year. Rugby at a high, high level

1448
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 24: in America just will not work and hasn't for one

1449
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 24: hundred odd years.

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Speaker 2: Sam and Piney, I thank you very much. Piney back

1451
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 2: on Dick later on today because you know he's in

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: Wellington ate no anniversary day there. This is new talks

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Speaker 2: hed b. It is a twenty three.

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01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the Mic asking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement,

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Speaker 1: Communities News, togs head.

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: Be News talks head Be. The story of the day

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01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: obviously is a continuing tragedy at Mount Monlinui where they

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: have paused work because there are dangers at more slips

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 2: and they've announced a review. So the blame game has started.

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01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: And many people have texted me over the course of

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01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 2: this morning and saying it's too early for the blame

1462
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: game because there's still people in the ground. Warren writes Andrew,

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01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: as a Mount local, I think the voices and opinions

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: being raised need to continue. Far too often in New

1465
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: Zealand we play soft and let time remove the accountability

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01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: that should have happened. This was a deplorable failure by

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01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: the council. Have a read of the Canadian New Zealand

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: Joint study regarding the slip potential of the Mount done

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01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. This was preventable through long term mitigation

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01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 2: and through real time actions. Neither happened. Accountability hurts. This

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: tragedy is not shrouded and gray. There are facts abounding

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 2: that show incompetence and potentially criminal negligence. It's hard to

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01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: have these conversations now, writes Warren, but they need to happen.

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: He says. Our family feels sorrow for the family and

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: friends hit by this avoidable disaster. Our family and friends

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: in community also feel anger for a counsel and EWI

1477
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: that has ignored science, ignored common sense and found us all,

1478
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: especially for those families change forever. Conversations will continue and

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: we will continue to help people to account, because that's

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: what we are here to do, all right. I see

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01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: the Australian of the Year has been named. It's an

1482
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: astronaut by the name of Katherine Bennett PEG twenty twenty

1483
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: six Australian of the Year. Another Australian of the Year

1484
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: is Steve Price. He joins me soon enough, this is

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Speaker 2: the Breakfast Show. This is new salk V.

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the Breakfast Show.

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01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 3: You confess.

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01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 1: It's Andrew Dickens on the Mike asking breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life,

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: your Way, News, Talks Dead b.

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's talking. Anniversary day. Seventy percent of the country

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: is on holiday, but thirty percent are not. It's you

1492
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: and I and all the team here keeping this country

1493
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,480
Speaker 2: going and You're welcome. So Mike will be back tomorrow

1494
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: and he will be talking to the Prime Minister, who

1495
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: normally talks on Monday, but he's going to be talking tomorrow,

1496
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: doing the big old talk tomorrow. I would have liked

1497
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: to have talked to the Prime Minister today because of

1498
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: what happened in Mount Mntanuy, and I think it's time

1499
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 2: to go to a leader to have their thoughts. And

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Speaker 2: I like to read this text out from Michael saying

1501
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,919
Speaker 2: that the government should be setting the terms of reference

1502
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: for this review of what happened to Mount Monganuy, as

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01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: well as the review person in the committee, because the

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01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 2: Council will seek to reduce damage. Now this is a

1505
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: fair point, is it not? Because the Council is deciding

1506
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: the review, the reviewer and the terms of reference, and

1507
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: yet the Council are a party to what went wrong

1508
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: in all of this, so surely shouldn't the government do it.

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,520
Speaker 2: Michael goes on and says once again the wider implications

1510
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: of this for New Zealand civil defense and the way

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: we respond to active weather events needs to be considered.

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: And I would have to say I think I agree.

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Speaker 12: It is twenty two to night International Correspondence with ends

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Speaker 12: and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: All right to Australia, we go see Price. Good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, sir.

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Speaker 23: Gooday Andrew Public holiday here of course as well Australia

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Speaker 23: Day today.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about that because Kathy Freeman just got

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Speaker 2: an honor. But first, the coalition is looking for a

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Speaker 2: new leader.

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Speaker 23: Well since I spoke to Mike last week, and I

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Speaker 23: mean obviously the coalition has just imploded. The National Parties

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Speaker 23: walked away from their coalition partners, the Liberals, and the

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Speaker 23: Liberals are now sitting out there on their own and

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Speaker 23: they probably are searching for a new leader. Susan Lee

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Speaker 23: is not going to survive, that's pretty clear. And now

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Speaker 23: they've got to work out exactly who they want to install.

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Speaker 23: It either be probably Angus Taylor, who has been the

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Speaker 23: Shadow Treasurer previously, or Andrew Hasty, former SAS trooper served

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Speaker 23: in Afghanistan who's from WA. Part of the problem for

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Speaker 23: Andrew Hasty is that he comes from West Australia, the

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Speaker 23: other side of the country, and so that makes it

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Speaker 23: very difficult to have him installed as leader. But his

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Speaker 23: family today have endorsed the fact that he wants to

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Speaker 23: put his hand up to it and we back you,

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Speaker 23: so we will get a new opposition leader. Will it

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Speaker 23: happen before Parliament resumes in February. Probably not. It's much

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Speaker 23: easier to do these sort of things if everybody's in Canberra,

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Speaker 23: as they will be for the start of the parliamentary

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Speaker 23: year when February kicks off. So I'm suggesting that Susan

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Speaker 23: Lee will probably be deposed. That will mean I suspect

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Speaker 23: that she will walk away from her seat, which will

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Speaker 23: cause a by election. Now that's going to be very

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Speaker 23: interesting because, as I've told Mike before, one Nation is

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Speaker 23: on arise in this country, led by Pauline Hanson, and

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Speaker 23: there's one piece this morning that suggests if we were

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Speaker 23: to hold an election, say next weekend, and it's very

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Speaker 23: likely that one notion could actually pick up twenty four seats,

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Speaker 23: of which they only at the moment have single figure numbers,

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Speaker 23: and so if that was the case, they could become

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Speaker 23: the official opposition Australian politics at the moment, Andrew is

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Speaker 23: in a very very interesting state of flux.

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Speaker 2: Yes, going bravely into the future by mining the past,

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Speaker 2: you could have you could say so right as Australia

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Speaker 2: day to day. Now, one thing about this it means

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Speaker 2: that in the middle of the tennis we'll have a

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Speaker 2: bit of a stoppage while the fireworks goes off over Melbourne,

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Speaker 2: and that's always always frustrated the hell out of me.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing about Australia Day today is that

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Speaker 2: there's a new poll loud.

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Speaker 23: There is And look, we've had this debate in this

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Speaker 23: country for probably the last twenty years. Is the twenty

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Speaker 23: sixth of January an appropriate day to have Australia Data.

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Speaker 23: Of course, what it stands for, or what it recognizes,

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Speaker 23: is the day that Captain Arthur Philip ented Sydney Cove

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Speaker 23: and raised the Union jack and claimed Australia as a

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Speaker 23: colony of Britain and Indigenous Australians is not happy about that.

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Speaker 23: But there's a poll of ten thousand readers that the

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Speaker 23: News Limited papers have conducted over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 23: Three quarters of those people poul believe Australia Day should

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Speaker 23: still be celebrated on the twenty sixth of January. In

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Speaker 23: twenty fifty eighty seven percent said that the best thing

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Speaker 23: was celebrating the country, while six percent. In uniting as

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Speaker 23: a community, ninety percent of people were less likely to

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Speaker 23: support businesses. And this is really interesting for anyone running

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Speaker 23: a large corporation that thinks they might suddenly go whoa.

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Speaker 23: Ninety percent say they would boycott a business if they

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Speaker 23: did not recognize Australia Day. This came about after Woolworths,

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Speaker 23: I think, not last Australia Day, but the one before,

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Speaker 23: decided not to sell any Australiaday merchandise. That was in

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Speaker 23: twenty twenty four, and in fact there was a huge

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Speaker 23: backlash and a lot of people then said I'm not

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Speaker 23: shopping at Woo Worse, I'm going to go and shop

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Speaker 23: at our other big supermarket coles. And that's what happened.

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Speaker 23: And so suddenly big business is going whoops, we might

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Speaker 23: have read the room wrong here. And so Australia today

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Speaker 23: it will be marked. I must say that there will

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Speaker 23: be protests. There will be marches through the streets of

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Speaker 23: our major capital cities by Indigenous groups who are still

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Speaker 23: protesting the fact that the date should be changed.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm speaking about Indigenous Katy Freeman, given the highest

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Speaker 2: Australia Day honor.

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Speaker 23: Look at one of the greatest things I've ever witnessed

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Speaker 23: was her winning that four hundred meters at Sydney Olympics.

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Speaker 23: It doesn't seem like it was all the way back

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Speaker 23: in two thousand, but it was so. Now twenty six

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Speaker 23: years ago, she's been awarded the highest honor. She was

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Speaker 23: called by former AOC president John Coates said, look, you've

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Speaker 23: been given the AC which is the Companion of the

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Speaker 23: Order of Australia, and she said, oh, well, that's great.

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Speaker 23: She's very blase Kathy Freeman. She said, it's all down

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Speaker 23: to my mum is the one that's made me what

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Speaker 23: I am today. And she said it's a gift from

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Speaker 23: the Australian people. Her mother told her she was buoyed

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Speaker 23: by the fact that one of her idols, tennis Legendivon Carley,

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Speaker 23: had also been awarded the AC also Indigenous Sportsperson back

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Speaker 23: in twenty eighteen. Kathy Freeman's not seen very much publicly anymore,

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Speaker 23: but who could forget Andrew when she stood up in

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Speaker 23: the running suit and that caldron at the Sydney Olympics.

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Speaker 23: Obs amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course when she won the gold and

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Speaker 2: she ran around with the flag, that was an incredible

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Speaker 2: scene as well. It was all beautiful and thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Steve Price from Australia here on News TALKSB.

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Speaker 2: Another text through from Christopher says, the Council cannot be

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Speaker 2: in a position to set the requirements for a commission

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Speaker 2: of inquiry or any investigation. To allow this sort of

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Speaker 2: thing just means they're marking their own homework and that's

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Speaker 2: not acceptable. I mean, while someone else says, and this

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: is interesting, one one one should have an option for

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Speaker 2: civil defense. So imagine if that was in place already,

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Speaker 2: and that is a nationwide consideration, But imagine if Lisa

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Speaker 2: mcclearen had gone up there, had that feeling in her

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Speaker 2: bones and said right, I'm going to one one mon

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Speaker 2: this and told the civil defense and got everybody swinging

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Speaker 2: into action. She felt those he had to go and

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Speaker 2: warm people herself, and it appears that she lost her

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Speaker 2: life doing so. But maybe we should have a one

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Speaker 2: on one and we should have a civil defense option.

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

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Speaker 1: Sixteen tonight the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: Howard By News Talks that Be.

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Speaker 2: Pete writes, Andrew, where do you get that figure of

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Speaker 2: seventy percent of New Zealanders are on holiday today. Are

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Speaker 2: you referring just to Aucklanders with Auckland Anniversary Day? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not, Pete. It's also Northland Anniversary Day as well,

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Speaker 2: so in the Auckland region that celebrates the anniversary goes

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Speaker 2: way you down the North Island and in that whole

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Speaker 2: area taking holiday today seventy percent of New Zealanders. And

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Speaker 2: that's why, and that's why Mike's not here, but he

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Speaker 2: will be here tomorrow now. Over the weekend, Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: targeted what he called unelected globalist bureaucrats, and he criticized

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Speaker 2: international bodies, including the World Health Organization, and Winston question

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Speaker 2: whether the New Zealand to continue funding organizations that he

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01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 2: says exert too much influence over domestic policy. This is

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Speaker 2: an RFK Junior and Donald Trump sort of thing, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: But remember Winston's always said this sort of thing. But

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Speaker 2: I've got a question for Winston Peters, who are you

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Speaker 2: saying this as are you saying this as foreign minister?

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01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: In which case did you ask the Prime Minister for

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01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: permission to say this or did you ask m fat

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01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 2: about what your policy position is he actually posted all

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Speaker 2: this on a personal social media page, so we can

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Speaker 2: presume it's as Winston Peters professional politician, which is all

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Speaker 2: just a little bit rich when you consider his attack

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Speaker 2: of the Reserve Bank Governor Anna Bremham. And so I'd

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Speaker 2: like to ask you, Winston, what lane are you in,

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Speaker 2: foreign Minister, because what source for the goose is also

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Speaker 2: for the gander. It's eleven to nine.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on the mic hosking Breakfast with the Defender

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Speaker 1: and used togs B.

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Speaker 2: So text through Andrew go Winston dot dot dot dot dot,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. Another text says I agree with

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Speaker 2: him if he's talking about a self appointed world forum, Well,

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Speaker 2: well yeah, the World Health Organization is an organization that

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Speaker 2: you sign up to and this country has signed up

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Speaker 2: to it, so it's not self appointed. We actually then

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Speaker 2: went for the whole thing, and we contribute to the

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Speaker 2: whole thing, and they're supposed to listen to the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: But there we go. But that's by the bye. The

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Speaker 2: question is what how was he saying this is foreign

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Speaker 2: minister or was he saying this is Winston Peters? And

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Speaker 2: I think if he asked the question of a Brennemer.

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Speaker 2: He should the answer. He should be providing an answer

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01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: to us as well. So the Mainlander is back. This

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Speaker 2: is the long distance train service in the South Island

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01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: and it's a real hit. The first trip sold out.

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01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Demand has stayed strong. More seas journeys are being added.

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Speaker 2: Some are now asking should we have a proper commuter

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Speaker 2: rail service down South Well, No, the mainland is built

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Speaker 2: for tourism, not daily travel. Ye, people are into it.

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: Crists is growing, sure, but this is still a scenic

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Speaker 2: train and I don't think the numbers are quite there

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Speaker 2: for it. Meanwhile, up north, the future of to Whoia

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Speaker 2: is back in the spotlight. The regional council there is

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Speaker 2: asked NCATA to extend the services trial by one more year.

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01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: They say patronage is improving, they want time to see

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Speaker 2: if the impact of the Auckland City Rail Link helps

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Speaker 2: it all. The ncfta chair by Cybn Bridges, will make

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Speaker 2: the funding call in February. And so for now, to

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Speaker 2: Whuia keeps running Hamilton to Auckland. Apparently some days it

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Speaker 2: has up to five hundred passengers. And for me, to

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01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 2: Huia started too soon because passengers had to change trains

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01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: and the journey took longer than a car. But despite that,

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Speaker 2: people got into it. Five hundred people every now and

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Speaker 2: then the journey that when they're in the train, that's

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Speaker 2: bonus office time because it can still work on the laptops.

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Speaker 2: So to who, he is not a wild success as

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Speaker 2: a commuter train, certainly, ain't no scenic train bless. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I love Franklin County, I love the White Kaddow, but

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Speaker 2: ain't no scenic train. So it is a commuter train.

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Speaker 2: It's not a wild success, but nor is it a failure.

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Speaker 2: So this is an experiment that happened before its time,

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Speaker 2: and maybe I think maybe it does need to be

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Speaker 2: given a chance. It is six minutes to.

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Speaker 1: Nine trending now with chemis Wells great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: Right, we want to take you to the tour down Under.

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: This is a big old cycle race, one of the classics.

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01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: It's around Adelaide and the McLaren Vale. It's the opening

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Speaker 2: event of the UCI World Tour. It's big. It's been

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Speaker 2: won by an Aussie cyclist called Jay Vine. So he

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Speaker 2: went into the final leg with a lead of one

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Speaker 2: minute and three seconds and all was good. But then

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Speaker 2: it wasn't because Jay crashed, and he crashed because of

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Speaker 2: wild life crash and the peloton.

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Speaker 16: Kangaroo has jumped into the wide shot and just you

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Speaker 16: see the crash has happened there. You haven't seen the

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Speaker 16: kangaroo initially coming in.

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Speaker 3: He's in the middle of the road.

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Speaker 2: Oh do yeh.

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Speaker 3: That's tragic.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and he's also took a knock as well.

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Speaker 2: The kangaroo. Yeah, the he didn't hit he didn't hit

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Speaker 2: the room. The roo hit him. Rus are angry creatures.

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Speaker 2: My theory is they're angry because their front arms are

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01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: too small. Glenn has the same theory about who t rexes.

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Speaker 2: T Rexes little arms, little arms, big teeth, angry, don't

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Speaker 2: go near them. Rouse little arms, big legs, don't go

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Speaker 2: near them. But Jay still got on. He was lucky

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Speaker 2: that the kangaroo and crash actually caused these three other

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Speaker 2: riders to have to quit because of injury, and so

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01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: Jay got back on his bike, had to change bikes

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Speaker 2: twice and eventually rejoined the peloton, and he ended up

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Speaker 2: winning by one minute and three seconds despite all the

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Speaker 2: damage that the rue tried to do. All right, time

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Speaker 2: for me to go and we'll get into our anniversary

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Speaker 2: day show for the whole nation. Seventy percent on holiday,

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Speaker 2: thirty percent not so After me, there will be John

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Speaker 2: McDonald's and Wellington Nick Mills this afternoon, Matt and Tyler,

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Speaker 2: and we'll find out just how buff these gentlemen have come,

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Speaker 2: because that was this summer, That was this summer pledge?

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Speaker 19: Was it not?

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Speaker 2: Drive today Heather is still away in the Corimandel, but

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Speaker 2: Jack Tay is going to have a crack at the show.

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine on Sports Talk, We've got Marcus Sush all

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Speaker 2: nights and then tomorrow Tuesday, the twenty seventh, everybody is

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Speaker 2: back and working hard, and I am finished, and I

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Speaker 2: am on holiday, and the weather is always better in February.

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Speaker 2: So yahvoo. Thank you so much for joining me on

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Speaker 2: the Summer Breakfast and right the way through January and

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Speaker 2: the large part of December as well. I have fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Mike, I'm Andrew. If you liked it, my

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Speaker 2: thanks to the production team Glenn and Sam and set

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Speaker 2: up of course, mister Duff, thank you so much. See

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Speaker 2: you when I see you with a glorious time.

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Speaker 22: You set my heart from the fat of

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