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Speaker 1: So yet another round of disruptive strikes has been announced,

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Speaker 1: this time from the secondary school teachers. They're going to

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Speaker 1: hold rolling strikes from Monday to Thursday after rejecting the

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Speaker 1: Education Ministry's new pay offer. Chris Abercrombie is the president

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Speaker 1: of the PPTA.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Chris, good, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. So what was the proportion

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Speaker 1: of support for the decision to go ahead and strike?

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Speaker 3: Overwhelming support from our teachers to do this industrial action,

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Speaker 3: to reject the offer and.

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Speaker 2: Engage in industrial election.

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Speaker 1: What is overwhelming?

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Speaker 3: Oh, we don't release our figures. It's just one of

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Speaker 3: our policies, but it was. It was overwhelming support for

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Speaker 3: the rejection of the offer and for the industrial election.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why are you refusing to agree to the callback days?

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Speaker 1: Why is that a sticking point?

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Speaker 2: What was this one of many sticking points?

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Speaker 3: There's issues around partial care, around support for curriculum leads,

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Speaker 3: et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So it's just one of many areas that still need

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Speaker 2: some work.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what's the problem with the callback days.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's two aspects to it.

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Speaker 3: One is the increase, so it's a callback on our terms,

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Speaker 3: and the other is that they're taking away the re

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Speaker 3: embarrassment of expenses related to that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if the expenses came back, would it be okay,

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Speaker 1: would you agree to the callback days?

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Speaker 2: Well, it'd be up to our members to decide that.

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Speaker 3: But that is a key part of it is something

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Speaker 3: that the teachers.

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Speaker 2: I've visited schools literally today.

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Speaker 3: As one of the key things teachers that told me

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Speaker 3: about is they're concerned around the callback days, the removal

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Speaker 3: of reimburrassements, but also the lack of government to recognize

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Speaker 3: partial care allowances, curriculum leads, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because it was am I getting this right? It

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Speaker 1: was ten to eighteen days. Currently ten callback days would

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Speaker 1: be moved to eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the parentove from the government.

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Speaker 1: And these are Chris days that teachers are already paid

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Speaker 1: to work. The only request is that they are paid

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Speaker 1: to work in the office, not at home those days.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: It's anytime the school's closed for instruction, so anytime after

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Speaker 3: four thirty or weekends or.

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Speaker 1: Holidays, yes, but they are as in those are days

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Speaker 1: that the teachers are already paid, and they would be

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Speaker 1: simply required to be at school on days at that

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Speaker 1: paid well.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily the case.

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Speaker 3: Some sometimes yes, but like not paid for Saturdays, not

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Speaker 3: paid for evenings.

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Speaker 1: Do they ever happen on a Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Or they might do That's that's the thing they could

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 3: So it's and it does say again in evenings as well,

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Speaker 3: So it's not just as clear cut as as you

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Speaker 3: want it to be.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. Chris ever CHROMVPVTA president.

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