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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News talks ed by doing up the house, distorting

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Speaker 1: the garden, asked Pete for ahead The Resident Builder with

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Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcamp Call eight hundred eighty US talks edb.

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Speaker 2: The house sizzle even when it's dog, even when the

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Speaker 3: Too old to bar.

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Speaker 4: And when you're sitting at the table trying not to

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Speaker 4: start hose sissor home even when we again, even when

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Speaker 4: you're there alone, house is a long even when there's

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Speaker 4: golds given when you go around from the ones you love,

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Speaker 4: your molls.

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Speaker 3: Scream broken pans.

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Speaker 5: Pen in front of.

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Speaker 2: Locals, wesb when they're going to leaving.

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Speaker 5: Them, even when wean, even when you're in theirlone.

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Speaker 3: Well, a very good morning and welcome along to the

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Speaker 3: Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me peep Off Camp,

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Speaker 3: the Resident Builder, and this is a show all about

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Speaker 3: our houses, our homes, about building them in the first place,

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Speaker 3: about looking after them, about the rules and regulations that

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Speaker 3: govern what we can build and where we can build it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe some tips and advice for you as you decide

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Speaker 3: that you're going to crack into a task because to

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Speaker 3: be fair, houses always need something doing on them. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I've said this before, but whoever came up

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Speaker 3: with the idea of maintenance free kind of should be,

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Speaker 3: you know, sued for misrepresentation. Nothing is maintenance free. So

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Speaker 3: there's always something to do. And if you've got a

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Speaker 3: task that you are either undertaking and it's going okay,

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Speaker 3: but you've still got a couple of questions, or as

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Speaker 3: sometimes happens, you've got a task that well you've started

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Speaker 3: and it's not going particularly well, or we can work

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Speaker 3: with you on that as well. So the lines are open.

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Speaker 3: The number to call is eight one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty. You can text as well, that's nine to

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Speaker 3: nine to two from your mobile phone, and if you'd

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Speaker 3: like to send me an email, you're absolutely welcome to

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Speaker 3: do that. It's Pete at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz.

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Speaker 3: So Pete at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot Nz coming

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Speaker 3: up nine minutes after six. Of course, as always, Client

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Speaker 3: pass will join us at about eight point thirty today

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Speaker 3: on the show. Don't think I've got any other guests

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Speaker 3: lined up. I've got sort of a long list of

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Speaker 3: people that we will be talking to because much is changing.

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Speaker 3: The Granny Flat legislation is now in place. There's been

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Speaker 3: a great deal of conversation about it prior to it

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Speaker 3: becoming law. Now that it's law and people are actually

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Speaker 3: working through the practicalities of it, I guess there's a

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Speaker 3: growing sentiment of just how many of these types of

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Speaker 3: buildings will be able to take full advantage of the

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Speaker 3: intent of the legislation, which is to reduce the amount

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Speaker 3: of compliance, speed up the process, and so on. And

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Speaker 3: then a story that, to be fair, I haven't had

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Speaker 3: a lot of time to dig into this week around

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Speaker 3: the government sort of removing guarantees and warranties for a

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Speaker 3: period of time around these new builds as well. So

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Speaker 3: it's a constantly moving situation and we'll try and keep

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Speaker 3: you up to date with it. Ritioh. The lines are open.

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Speaker 3: The number to call is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: Let's rip into it. If you've got a question of

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Speaker 3: a building nature, the practical, the theoretical, the legislative, we

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Speaker 3: can talk about all of these things. Eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty the number to call, and a good morning.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I was just wanting some clarification around a CoA.

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Speaker 6: Sure the difference between a for a new build and

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Speaker 6: a builder carried out restricted building works didn't get the

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Speaker 6: consent through the council just completely ignored my emails and

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Speaker 6: then he just careered me the keys. I've been left

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Speaker 6: to get a CoA. I don't think I should because

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Speaker 6: then I take responsibility for the works. But also I

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Speaker 6: don't have all the paperwork for it. How does that

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Speaker 3: Okay, First up, I'm flabbergasted. If what you're telling me

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Speaker 3: a couple of quick questions for you. Anna, this is

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Speaker 6: Yes, it is in the target.

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Speaker 3: As in there was nothing there it was. There was

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Speaker 6: Yep, But they completely stuffed up the foundation for a start.

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Speaker 6: They lowered it considerably, but was building more than what

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Speaker 6: they were both too?

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Speaker 3: But was there a building consent to build the building

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Speaker 3: in the first place? Yes, it was okay, so there

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Speaker 3: was a building consent. Did counsel undertake any inspections at all.

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Speaker 6: Well, first they said they did, and then when we

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Speaker 6: went into litigation, they couldn't find the inspections. And then

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Speaker 6: fourteen months later they found the file after I had

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Speaker 6: already paid over one hundred and fifty thousand on a

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Speaker 6: to custard. And I personally think the dodgy builder is

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Speaker 6: in with the council and they just carried out all

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Speaker 6: these restricted building works like their major.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a whole house, okay, So I.

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Speaker 6: Can't sell it. That was a new build that has

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Speaker 6: restricted building works. Nobody wants to know. My expert is

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Speaker 6: now unavailable. And the council initially told me you cannot

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Speaker 6: file a CoA because one the works weren't carried out

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Speaker 6: by the owner, which is myself, and two they weren't urgent, right, okay,

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Speaker 6: And that was the two sort of grounds. Wasn't it

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Speaker 6: for CoA? When I read about it? For that be

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Speaker 3: I mean coas are often, you know, work that perhaps well,

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Speaker 3: work that did require a building consent because it's restricted

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Speaker 3: building work, so it's work outside of schedule one of

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Speaker 3: the act is another way of looking at it. But

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Speaker 3: it often relates to things like I'm sort of involved

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Speaker 3: with one at the moment where a tile shower was installed.

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Speaker 3: It probably should have had a building consent. It didn't.

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Speaker 3: It's it's compliant with the code. There's a way of

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Speaker 3: proving that you can't get a retrospective building consent, therefore

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Speaker 3: you go for a CoA. But your situation sounds, I

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Speaker 3: have to say, incredibly confusing from an outsider's point of view,

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Speaker 3: because there is a pathway, right, so a consent was

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Speaker 3: construction is a licensed building practitioner, yes, and I.

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Speaker 6: Have filed to them, even though they haven't filled out

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Speaker 3: Which they're required to do at the completion of work.

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Speaker 3: So they have a statutory obligation to do that. And

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Speaker 3: there's no there's no wiggle room on that, right, It's

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Speaker 3: quite clear. So failure to provide a row a record

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Speaker 3: of works puts you immediately offside with the Licensed Building

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Speaker 3: Practitioners Disciplinary board. Have you been in touch with the

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 6: I have filed against the actual building, not the building company.

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Speaker 3: No, it's got to be the individual builder.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was seen entering the property and I was

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Speaker 6: rung to say that you know, they seen him going

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Speaker 6: to say that you are not permitted to be on

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Speaker 6: then I emailed him again. And then on the seat

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Speaker 6: of April of last year, when I was told he

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Speaker 6: I said to him, you've been told that the building

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The sorry and the challenge for this particular conversation now

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Speaker 3: is that it is incredibly complex and more complex than,

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Speaker 3: to be fair, we can deal with on the show,

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Speaker 3: and because there will be so many layers of issues here.

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Speaker 9: But just.

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Speaker 3: To clear it up in my head, So, there was

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Speaker 3: a building consent, building work was undertaken, obviously somewhere along

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Speaker 6: Well, it nited because fourteen months later, after like judications

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Speaker 6: and everything else, the council file found the files and

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Speaker 6: I think there was twelve of them and they sent

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Speaker 6: them and put them on the property file fourteen months

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Speaker 6: after the fact. So they shouldn't have either. When would

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Speaker 6: you co to compliant?

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Speaker 3: No, so have you moved into the property, you're living

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Speaker 6: I'm not living in the house because obviously there were

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Speaker 6: so many things wrong, but I have been fixing them

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Speaker 6: major issues, one being the restricted building works with is

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Speaker 6: not the correct even the structural engineer he filled out

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Speaker 6: the peers one like are required and then didn't send

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Speaker 6: it to counsel. And then they carried out the works

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Speaker 6: built out a peers four but didn't complete it properly.

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Speaker 6: And there's no row, so you can't file it even

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Speaker 6: if I wanted to for a CLA cheepers.

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Speaker 3: So the house, when would date of practical completion?

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Speaker 10: When?

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Speaker 3: When could you have lived in the house?

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Speaker 6: If they're well the adjudicator, Not that you're supposed to

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Speaker 6: undiscuss what they've said, but they practical completion has not

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Speaker 6: been met because they lowered the foundation without my knowledge

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Speaker 6: and consent. So the three super major defense sure the

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Speaker 6: lowered foundation. Two is all the flashings are non compliant,

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Speaker 6: so around all windows, around all doors, in all verticals.

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Speaker 6: And then I have got a major defeat, which is

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Speaker 6: an overhand on the north side. It's thirty five miles overhung,

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Speaker 6: so it completely can't leave it, and then they came

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Speaker 3: Thirty five The thirty five millimeters doesn't sound like can I?

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Speaker 3: I just a quick question? So if the flashings were

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Speaker 3: non compliant, so there would have been basically a rap

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Speaker 3: inspection and then a cladding inspection if at that time

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Speaker 3: it was noted on. You know, typically building inspecta will

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Speaker 3: come out, they'll look at that, they'll say to the builder, hey,

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Speaker 3: flashings are not as per the plan or the non

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Speaker 3: through as a fail. And then at the next inspection

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Speaker 3: if the building, if the builder hasn't done anything about it,

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Speaker 3: they would be they would fail the next inspection or

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Speaker 3: the next inspection wouldn't go ahead until the previous work

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Speaker 3: has been rectified. So if, for example, this is where

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to get, I find it complex and confusing

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Speaker 3: and flabbergasting, if that's a word that Let's say they

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Speaker 3: were able to do a pre line inspection or a

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Speaker 3: postline inspection knowing that a fail for the flashings was

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Speaker 3: still on the file. So this is where this is

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Speaker 3: where obviously it would feel that you've been let down

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Speaker 3: by a number of groups. We could spend the entire

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Speaker 3: show talking about your situation, which unfortunately we can't do.

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Speaker 3: I am intrigued. Do you mind if I hand you

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Speaker 3: back to Locke, my producer, and I might not be

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Speaker 3: this week, but if I give you a call, because

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Speaker 3: there's there's something that's going on here quite obviously that

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Speaker 3: really doesn't make sense. And you know, if counsel in

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Speaker 3: some way at Faulton. I'm certainly not suggesting that that

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Speaker 3: would be interesting to know. It'd be interesting to know

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Speaker 3: what consultants you've already spoken with, but the fact that

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Speaker 3: what is You know, buildings complicated, but it's not that complicated, right,

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Speaker 3: If it's a relatively simple structure, they get built, thousands

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Speaker 3: of them every year. You get to final inspection, you

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Speaker 3: get it, and you get on with your life. So

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Speaker 3: when those things don't happen, there's something extraordinary happening. So

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering

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Speaker 13: Oh, good morning love. Listening to the conversation topics, there's

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Speaker 13: So basically, I've had I've had my building inspector because

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Speaker 13: So who do I who do I go to to

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Speaker 13: moment he's refusing to answer my phone call and.

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Speaker 3: Not okay, So a couple of quick questions as well. Then,

434
00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:15,975
Speaker 3: So this is you contracted someone to act to undertake

435
00:26:16,015 --> 00:26:20,335
Speaker 3: a pre purchase building inspection on your behalf as the vendor,

436
00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:25,055
Speaker 3: with the intention that you would then make that report

437
00:26:25,095 --> 00:26:31,175
Speaker 3: available to a prospective purchaser. Yes, okay, so I presume

438
00:26:31,735 --> 00:26:37,815
Speaker 3: so the pre purchase inspector is working for you because

439
00:26:37,855 --> 00:26:42,575
Speaker 3: you're the client. Yes, you've paid for the report.

440
00:26:43,255 --> 00:26:46,415
Speaker 13: Yes, I paid for the report because he demanded pay

441
00:26:46,455 --> 00:26:47,295
Speaker 13: on the day, and I.

442
00:26:47,255 --> 00:26:51,375
Speaker 3: Think, okay, yep, all right. And so in that report

443
00:26:51,415 --> 00:26:54,935
Speaker 3: he's made a comment around the rust and a recommendation

444
00:26:55,015 --> 00:26:58,095
Speaker 3: that the roof be replaced. And so when you've rung

445
00:26:58,175 --> 00:27:01,695
Speaker 3: to ask him about that, he's decided that he doesn't

446
00:27:01,695 --> 00:27:05,655
Speaker 3: want to talk to you anymore. He's fulfilled his obligations.

447
00:27:05,775 --> 00:27:07,895
Speaker 3: I mean, look from a business point of view, I

448
00:27:07,895 --> 00:27:13,255
Speaker 3: think that's poor practice right on his part, because in

449
00:27:13,295 --> 00:27:16,415
Speaker 3: the end, I mean, look from his point of view,

450
00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:19,135
Speaker 3: if he said it's got rust, you need to replace it,

451
00:27:20,135 --> 00:27:24,935
Speaker 3: he's also protecting himself and his business. Right. So if

452
00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:27,135
Speaker 3: he was to make a comment along the lines of

453
00:27:27,295 --> 00:27:30,415
Speaker 3: it has some rust, but it'll be okay. And then

454
00:27:30,495 --> 00:27:33,015
Speaker 3: in six months time you sell the house, it rains

455
00:27:33,055 --> 00:27:35,415
Speaker 3: and it leaks, and someone says, well, hang on the

456
00:27:35,455 --> 00:27:38,415
Speaker 3: building inspector said there was some rust there, but it

457
00:27:38,455 --> 00:27:40,815
Speaker 3: would be okay. And I'm standing here with a bucket.

458
00:27:41,095 --> 00:27:45,175
Speaker 3: They're going to go and sue him for damages, right,

459
00:27:45,735 --> 00:27:48,135
Speaker 3: So I get it from his point of view that

460
00:27:48,255 --> 00:27:51,655
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to change what he said. But at

461
00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:54,935
Speaker 3: the same time, you know, it's quite possible. I mean,

462
00:27:54,975 --> 00:27:57,655
Speaker 3: I've looked at houses that have got rusty roofs, right,

463
00:27:57,735 --> 00:28:00,855
Speaker 3: and they don't leak. So you go, rust, you know,

464
00:28:01,935 --> 00:28:06,695
Speaker 3: requires attention or rust recommend replacement or something like that.

465
00:28:06,735 --> 00:28:10,255
Speaker 3: But rust must replace a roof is quite a different statement.

466
00:28:12,615 --> 00:28:13,935
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that you're going to have

467
00:28:13,975 --> 00:28:16,215
Speaker 3: a lot of luck. It's I think it's poor practice

468
00:28:16,215 --> 00:28:18,295
Speaker 3: on his part not to engage with you. But that's

469
00:28:18,535 --> 00:28:21,255
Speaker 3: by the by. Now, I guess he has a right

470
00:28:21,335 --> 00:28:21,615
Speaker 3: not to.

471
00:28:24,975 --> 00:28:28,775
Speaker 13: Can I cut on the He did by saying, I

472
00:28:29,535 --> 00:28:31,175
Speaker 13: haven't been able to look at the roof, but I

473
00:28:31,175 --> 00:28:34,495
Speaker 13: can see the rust and the whole ru should be replaced. Admittedly,

474
00:28:34,535 --> 00:28:36,855
Speaker 13: I've only had a moment to look at it. That's

475
00:28:36,855 --> 00:28:37,975
Speaker 13: all he said in his report.

476
00:28:38,615 --> 00:28:41,375
Speaker 14: Okay, dee a look at it.

477
00:28:43,055 --> 00:28:47,335
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, ah je It's complicated, doesn't it. And

478
00:28:47,695 --> 00:28:50,575
Speaker 3: the other thing is, like, you know, you could say, well, look,

479
00:28:50,855 --> 00:28:54,575
Speaker 3: I'm going to choose to not disclose that report, but

480
00:28:54,655 --> 00:28:56,975
Speaker 3: then when you sit down with the real estate agent,

481
00:28:57,015 --> 00:28:58,975
Speaker 3: they're going to say to you, are you aware of

482
00:28:58,975 --> 00:29:01,495
Speaker 3: any issues with the house, And you're going to have

483
00:29:01,615 --> 00:29:05,735
Speaker 3: to declare that report because you had it commissioned right

484
00:29:05,855 --> 00:29:07,655
Speaker 3: in which as you can't go back on that.

485
00:29:09,455 --> 00:29:13,535
Speaker 13: I've already seen it, so he knows the situation, transparent

486
00:29:13,575 --> 00:29:16,455
Speaker 13: about it. But wow, I want to, I want to,

487
00:29:16,495 --> 00:29:19,495
Speaker 13: I want to. I want a solution. He's saying it

488
00:29:19,535 --> 00:29:21,735
Speaker 13: will cost you know, have to replace the roof, because

489
00:29:21,775 --> 00:29:24,455
Speaker 13: thirty thousands replace the roof.

490
00:29:24,575 --> 00:29:27,055
Speaker 3: What is the roofing? What type of material?

491
00:29:27,815 --> 00:29:34,135
Speaker 13: Uh? Well, it's essentially it's corrugated iron. But but it's

492
00:29:34,175 --> 00:29:36,895
Speaker 13: the houses in two parts. It's got a gable roof

493
00:29:36,975 --> 00:29:39,215
Speaker 13: in the front and it's got a butterfly roof in

494
00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:41,335
Speaker 13: the back because there wasn't a leanto which they could

495
00:29:41,415 --> 00:29:46,375
Speaker 13: converted to a butterfly. Yeah. So the box when they

496
00:29:46,375 --> 00:29:48,535
Speaker 13: built the box gutter, they built it out of zinklin

497
00:29:49,175 --> 00:29:52,175
Speaker 13: yep and with a nice apron. So it's like a

498
00:29:52,295 --> 00:29:56,095
Speaker 13: sort of like a like an albatross with two wide wings,

499
00:29:56,615 --> 00:29:57,935
Speaker 13: long wings each side of.

500
00:29:57,855 --> 00:29:58,615
Speaker 8: The box gutter.

501
00:29:58,775 --> 00:30:03,215
Speaker 13: And the corrosion is occurring on the section of corrugate

502
00:30:03,455 --> 00:30:08,695
Speaker 13: corrugation which they cut out and refitted over the box together.

503
00:30:08,775 --> 00:30:12,015
Speaker 13: So it's got this nice white apron with a section

504
00:30:12,135 --> 00:30:17,615
Speaker 13: of fitted and corrugated iron and that's that's just corrolling.

505
00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:20,775
Speaker 13: It's a few spots. It's only happened quite recently. I

506
00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:24,095
Speaker 13: mean it was done thirty years ago. The house hasn't

507
00:30:24,135 --> 00:30:27,175
Speaker 13: leaked in thirty years. The spots are just starting to

508
00:30:27,215 --> 00:30:29,935
Speaker 13: appear now, which is really unusual.

509
00:30:29,495 --> 00:30:36,695
Speaker 3: After Although it's an odd resolution to this, but I'm

510
00:30:36,735 --> 00:30:40,615
Speaker 3: wondering whether you know, rather than argue about the fact

511
00:30:40,655 --> 00:30:42,655
Speaker 3: that there's some rust there, and whether or not the

512
00:30:42,735 --> 00:30:45,535
Speaker 3: extent of that rust deserves replacement and all the rest

513
00:30:45,575 --> 00:30:48,695
Speaker 3: of it. If it's relatively localized, and because it's a

514
00:30:48,735 --> 00:30:53,015
Speaker 3: long run iron, I would be inclined to get a

515
00:30:53,095 --> 00:30:56,335
Speaker 3: roofer to price for the replacement. Just of the sheets

516
00:30:56,335 --> 00:30:59,375
Speaker 3: that have rust on them, have those replaced, and then

517
00:30:59,455 --> 00:31:02,175
Speaker 3: you can add you can say, look, it was identified,

518
00:31:02,375 --> 00:31:04,735
Speaker 3: I've fixed it, and then a buyer can make their

519
00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:11,135
Speaker 3: own decision. That might be the cheapest solution, the most

520
00:31:11,175 --> 00:31:12,535
Speaker 3: practical and cheapest solution.

521
00:31:13,455 --> 00:31:17,495
Speaker 13: You could take away section of the corrugated iron out

522
00:31:17,495 --> 00:31:18,575
Speaker 13: and replace that.

523
00:31:18,975 --> 00:31:21,575
Speaker 3: You can and not you know and what I'm talking

524
00:31:21,575 --> 00:31:24,415
Speaker 3: about is going to the next Perlin, cutting the sheet there,

525
00:31:24,695 --> 00:31:28,335
Speaker 3: getting a similar profile one sliding it underneath. It's you know,

526
00:31:28,415 --> 00:31:32,535
Speaker 3: these repairs are completely and utterly legitimate, right, so if

527
00:31:32,575 --> 00:31:35,215
Speaker 3: you deal to the rust by replacing part of that,

528
00:31:36,855 --> 00:31:39,975
Speaker 3: you know that's completely acceptable in my mind anyway, So

529
00:31:40,615 --> 00:31:42,975
Speaker 3: because I think you could spend a long time arguing

530
00:31:42,975 --> 00:31:46,175
Speaker 3: with this guy about it and still get no resolution

531
00:31:46,255 --> 00:31:49,295
Speaker 3: because he's he's saying, this is my opinion. You've paid

532
00:31:49,295 --> 00:31:52,255
Speaker 3: me for my opinion. If you don't like my opinion,

533
00:31:52,335 --> 00:31:55,895
Speaker 3: that's not my problem, rights, that's what's going through his head.

534
00:31:56,775 --> 00:32:00,375
Speaker 3: So I think, just do a targeted repair. Get the

535
00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:03,295
Speaker 3: person who's done the targeted repair, the roofer, who hopefully

536
00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:06,895
Speaker 3: is an LBP, to just issue you with a really

537
00:32:06,935 --> 00:32:10,535
Speaker 3: simple statement saying I've undertaken these repairs. They don't have

538
00:32:10,575 --> 00:32:12,655
Speaker 3: to offer up any warranty or anything like that. They

539
00:32:12,695 --> 00:32:15,495
Speaker 3: just say I've repaired it and it's okay and move on.

540
00:32:16,015 --> 00:32:17,575
Speaker 3: And I've got to move on as well. Good luck

541
00:32:17,655 --> 00:32:22,215
Speaker 3: with that. It raises a whole lot of questions around

542
00:32:23,535 --> 00:32:28,535
Speaker 3: vendor generated pre purchase inspections and whether or not whether

543
00:32:28,615 --> 00:32:31,775
Speaker 3: or not they're worth doing, whether or not if you

544
00:32:31,975 --> 00:32:38,455
Speaker 3: were a prospective purchaser, would you feel confident relying on

545
00:32:38,495 --> 00:32:43,295
Speaker 3: a pre purchase inspection undertaken by someone contracted to the vendor.

546
00:32:44,375 --> 00:32:46,215
Speaker 3: There's a bit in that. We'll talk about that in

547
00:32:46,215 --> 00:32:47,895
Speaker 3: the moment. We'll take short break as well. We'll talk

548
00:32:47,935 --> 00:32:49,775
Speaker 3: to Dorien. We've got a couple of lines free. We've

549
00:32:49,775 --> 00:32:52,295
Speaker 3: got some great texts as well. Call us now, oh

550
00:32:52,335 --> 00:32:55,775
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Squeaky door.

551
00:32:55,935 --> 00:32:59,495
Speaker 1: Or squeaky floor Get the right advice from Beautifulfcare the

552
00:32:59,615 --> 00:33:01,695
Speaker 1: resident builder on news Talk sad B.

553
00:33:02,615 --> 00:33:05,135
Speaker 3: When you talk said be it is just after six

554
00:33:05,415 --> 00:33:08,295
Speaker 3: forty five on I have to say it even just

555
00:33:08,295 --> 00:33:11,575
Speaker 3: fricks me out a little bit. First of February, Locke,

556
00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:16,495
Speaker 3: I'm just shaking the z go criikey, criikey. I have

557
00:33:16,535 --> 00:33:20,295
Speaker 3: to say it's been a turbulent start to the new year,

558
00:33:20,935 --> 00:33:24,375
Speaker 3: in a rather frantic one. But anyway, we're getting there.

559
00:33:24,575 --> 00:33:27,895
Speaker 3: It is six forty five and Doreen, a very good

560
00:33:27,975 --> 00:33:28,775
Speaker 3: morning to you.

561
00:33:29,615 --> 00:33:33,295
Speaker 15: Good morning. I'm just an easy one for you.

562
00:33:33,455 --> 00:33:33,775
Speaker 3: Great.

563
00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:40,695
Speaker 15: I've got a front entry door which is powder coated

564
00:33:40,895 --> 00:33:45,615
Speaker 15: aluminium and it's black and man has it got sun

565
00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:53,095
Speaker 15: strike like, no, do I get or google and look

566
00:33:53,215 --> 00:33:57,255
Speaker 15: for a proper coating expert.

567
00:33:58,895 --> 00:34:03,855
Speaker 3: I would recommend that and I'll save you time on

568
00:34:03,895 --> 00:34:06,935
Speaker 3: the keyboard and suggests that you just go straight to

569
00:34:06,975 --> 00:34:09,335
Speaker 3: a company called Nano Clear, so.

570
00:34:09,455 --> 00:34:10,015
Speaker 14: In a.

571
00:34:11,535 --> 00:34:17,335
Speaker 3: Yep clear talk to them and and it might be

572
00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:19,375
Speaker 3: an opportunity, you know in terms of like a black

573
00:34:19,415 --> 00:34:21,495
Speaker 3: front door is great, but if it's a black front

574
00:34:21,495 --> 00:34:24,615
Speaker 3: door that gets direct sunlight, then yes, it is going

575
00:34:24,615 --> 00:34:28,535
Speaker 3: to get really really hot and so on. So I

576
00:34:28,575 --> 00:34:31,215
Speaker 3: you know, you can talk to them about changing the color,

577
00:34:32,895 --> 00:34:35,135
Speaker 3: but they'll they'll sort you out. So if you wanted

578
00:34:35,175 --> 00:34:37,175
Speaker 3: it to be white, you know they can do that.

579
00:34:37,495 --> 00:34:40,015
Speaker 3: If you wanted to be any shade of color between

580
00:34:40,055 --> 00:34:42,055
Speaker 3: white and black, they can do that for you as well.

581
00:34:43,055 --> 00:34:46,535
Speaker 15: Well that's great, So I'll just google them as ye

582
00:34:46,935 --> 00:34:50,815
Speaker 15: no Clear, Nano Clear. I think another color would be

583
00:34:50,855 --> 00:34:51,575
Speaker 15: a good idea.

584
00:34:51,695 --> 00:34:55,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. And it's like it's no drama for them.

585
00:34:55,495 --> 00:34:57,215
Speaker 3: They're all set up for it. They'll do a great

586
00:34:57,255 --> 00:34:58,615
Speaker 3: job and they'll give you a warranty.

587
00:34:59,335 --> 00:35:01,575
Speaker 15: Oh good, thanks exactly, lovely.

588
00:35:01,415 --> 00:35:03,935
Speaker 3: To chat dooring, take care of all the best bother then,

589
00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:06,095
Speaker 3: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call.

590
00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:09,415
Speaker 3: I am good morning, Oh, good morning.

591
00:35:09,495 --> 00:35:16,135
Speaker 14: Yes, I'm wanting some advice about so cold. Yes, I

592
00:35:16,255 --> 00:35:19,135
Speaker 14: have a property which is not connected to the storm

593
00:35:19,175 --> 00:35:23,375
Speaker 14: water system. It has it just has independent so cold

594
00:35:24,695 --> 00:35:29,335
Speaker 14: and I'm just wondering how you would go about checking

595
00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:29,815
Speaker 14: on those.

596
00:35:31,695 --> 00:35:34,255
Speaker 3: Roughly, when would the so cool have been built in

597
00:35:34,295 --> 00:35:34,975
Speaker 3: the first place?

598
00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:39,375
Speaker 14: Well, the property was built about two thousand and four,

599
00:35:39,575 --> 00:35:40,335
Speaker 14: two thousand and.

600
00:35:40,335 --> 00:35:46,815
Speaker 3: Five, okay, right, Okay, that's and that's interesting in the

601
00:35:46,855 --> 00:35:51,775
Speaker 3: sense that if you I'm thinking back to properties, let's

602
00:35:51,775 --> 00:35:53,935
Speaker 3: say that we're built in the nineteen sixties and seventies, right,

603
00:35:53,975 --> 00:35:57,855
Speaker 3: so that a so cool hasn't changed that much since then, right,

604
00:35:59,335 --> 00:35:59,655
Speaker 3: But what.

605
00:35:59,775 --> 00:36:04,895
Speaker 14: Would it happened? It's got numerous so cold Ah.

606
00:36:05,175 --> 00:36:09,575
Speaker 3: Okay, it's interesting in its own right this given that

607
00:36:09,655 --> 00:36:14,895
Speaker 3: it was two thousand and four, other soakholds the design

608
00:36:15,415 --> 00:36:19,095
Speaker 3: detailed on the building consent from that time.

609
00:36:19,295 --> 00:36:22,615
Speaker 14: No, they're not, they're not detailed.

610
00:36:24,575 --> 00:36:37,575
Speaker 3: Right, So has the stormwater system been approved by counsel client? Okay,

611
00:36:37,575 --> 00:36:38,415
Speaker 3: interesting as well?

612
00:36:38,615 --> 00:36:42,375
Speaker 14: All right, Well, the house was built by a developer,

613
00:36:42,495 --> 00:36:47,015
Speaker 14: and it's they did all the landscaping as well, and

614
00:36:48,255 --> 00:36:54,015
Speaker 14: actually quite a lot of the ground you is paved,

615
00:36:54,495 --> 00:37:01,335
Speaker 14: yes with and it's concrete pavers and then concrete in

616
00:37:01,855 --> 00:37:04,535
Speaker 14: between you know, yes, and between the pavers.

617
00:37:04,775 --> 00:37:08,575
Speaker 3: So the so that you're talking about, and it sounds

618
00:37:08,575 --> 00:37:11,535
Speaker 3: like you have a number of them, Are they a

619
00:37:11,615 --> 00:37:14,775
Speaker 3: chamber with a void in them? Or is it simply

620
00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:19,095
Speaker 3: you know, a hole that's been dug filled with drainage

621
00:37:19,135 --> 00:37:22,095
Speaker 3: material and the storm water gets directed into that.

622
00:37:24,215 --> 00:37:28,735
Speaker 14: Will the downpipes go down and then they go into

623
00:37:28,775 --> 00:37:29,495
Speaker 14: the soap hoole?

624
00:37:31,055 --> 00:37:31,295
Speaker 3: Yes?

625
00:37:31,335 --> 00:37:35,615
Speaker 12: But the so it looks as for each downpipe, so

626
00:37:35,735 --> 00:37:41,575
Speaker 12: there's one, two, three, there's only about five downpipes in

627
00:37:41,655 --> 00:37:42,255
Speaker 12: the property.

628
00:37:42,415 --> 00:37:46,255
Speaker 3: Yes, and each one of them has their own dedicated soakhole.

629
00:37:47,375 --> 00:37:48,255
Speaker 14: Yes, that's right.

630
00:37:49,295 --> 00:37:53,975
Speaker 3: Look, I I actually find them endlessly fascinating, but I'm

631
00:37:53,975 --> 00:37:56,895
Speaker 3: not going to let my fascination with them take up

632
00:37:56,935 --> 00:37:59,895
Speaker 3: too much time. I think the simplest solution is going

633
00:37:59,935 --> 00:38:02,295
Speaker 3: to be is that you could try and go back

634
00:38:02,295 --> 00:38:05,575
Speaker 3: through the property records and find the contractor who was

635
00:38:05,615 --> 00:38:08,855
Speaker 3: the drainage tractor at the time. You might be able

636
00:38:08,855 --> 00:38:10,695
Speaker 3: to find those records and ask them to come and

637
00:38:10,775 --> 00:38:14,215
Speaker 3: visit and check them. Otherwise I would find a recommendation

638
00:38:14,415 --> 00:38:19,175
Speaker 3: for a reliable drain layer to come and do an inspection.

639
00:38:19,495 --> 00:38:22,175
Speaker 3: The other thing that you could do is contract a

640
00:38:23,615 --> 00:38:26,855
Speaker 3: like a company that does CCTV inspection of drains to

641
00:38:26,935 --> 00:38:29,775
Speaker 3: actually run. They could disconnect the downpipe, which is not

642
00:38:29,815 --> 00:38:33,055
Speaker 3: a big drama, and run a camera down the line

643
00:38:33,095 --> 00:38:35,735
Speaker 3: and see where it exits. What you might find is

644
00:38:35,775 --> 00:38:39,055
Speaker 3: that where it exits is in fact solid ground. Now

645
00:38:39,175 --> 00:38:41,575
Speaker 3: that there might have been some scoria there, but it's

646
00:38:41,655 --> 00:38:44,775
Speaker 3: full of fines and it won't be working, or you

647
00:38:44,815 --> 00:38:47,375
Speaker 3: know it is working. So CCTV is a good way

648
00:38:47,415 --> 00:38:51,895
Speaker 3: of actually getting a look inside there a reliable, experienced

649
00:38:51,935 --> 00:38:53,975
Speaker 3: drain layer to come and have a look to determine

650
00:38:54,015 --> 00:38:56,255
Speaker 3: whether or not they're actually working. And the other thing

651
00:38:56,335 --> 00:39:00,615
Speaker 3: is go outside when it's really really raining and see

652
00:39:00,615 --> 00:39:04,215
Speaker 3: whether the water is flowing back out of your stormwater connections.

653
00:39:04,295 --> 00:39:06,735
Speaker 3: That will also tell you that it's not working. So

654
00:39:07,015 --> 00:39:11,295
Speaker 3: that's how I would approach it. And for what strange reason,

655
00:39:11,455 --> 00:39:14,935
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I do find stormwater and

656
00:39:15,535 --> 00:39:19,255
Speaker 3: soakage endlessly fascinating, having built a few in my time.

657
00:39:19,535 --> 00:39:22,775
Speaker 3: Rightio six, thanks for the call, Diane, Lovely Chat six

658
00:39:22,975 --> 00:39:24,135
Speaker 3: fifty one back.

659
00:39:24,015 --> 00:39:27,895
Speaker 1: In the moth, helping you get those DIY projects done right.

660
00:39:28,095 --> 00:39:33,215
Speaker 1: The resident builder with beauta wolfcat call eighty Youth Talks EDB.

661
00:39:33,975 --> 00:39:35,935
Speaker 3: Your newth talks B. We're coming up to news time,

662
00:39:35,975 --> 00:39:38,495
Speaker 3: but before then, a very good morning to you, Michael.

663
00:39:39,455 --> 00:39:40,255
Speaker 14: How is pet?

664
00:39:40,615 --> 00:39:41,055
Speaker 3: Very well?

665
00:39:41,975 --> 00:39:45,415
Speaker 16: I'm going through the garrows and I found an old

666
00:39:45,855 --> 00:39:49,215
Speaker 16: pitchfork of've hed for years, forty or fifty years, and

667
00:39:49,255 --> 00:39:50,575
Speaker 16: it's got a hickory handle.

668
00:39:50,775 --> 00:39:51,295
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

669
00:39:52,415 --> 00:39:56,175
Speaker 16: Yeah, and I've noticed it's been sitting there for bloody agent.

670
00:39:56,935 --> 00:39:59,975
Speaker 16: And when I first got it it was all quite shiny.

671
00:40:00,055 --> 00:40:02,255
Speaker 16: I was seeing me a getting some linseed oil and

672
00:40:02,335 --> 00:40:04,335
Speaker 16: rubbing it and see if I can bring the grains

673
00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:05,055
Speaker 16: back up again.

674
00:40:05,415 --> 00:40:08,255
Speaker 3: Beautiful. I would give it a light sand with some

675
00:40:08,415 --> 00:40:10,815
Speaker 3: very fine paper like you know, two twenty grits or

676
00:40:10,815 --> 00:40:13,535
Speaker 3: something like that first, just to because it'll have a

677
00:40:13,535 --> 00:40:15,735
Speaker 3: bit of grime in that on it. And then yes,

678
00:40:15,975 --> 00:40:19,775
Speaker 3: some linseed oil on there will it'll be beautiful.

679
00:40:20,815 --> 00:40:23,895
Speaker 16: Yeah, it should bring all the grains days, shouldn't it.

680
00:40:24,095 --> 00:40:25,895
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be gorgeous.

681
00:40:26,575 --> 00:40:30,015
Speaker 16: And listen while I'm married. I've got a baynit. It's

682
00:40:30,055 --> 00:40:33,295
Speaker 16: about a foot long. It's double sided, and the leather

683
00:40:33,495 --> 00:40:35,415
Speaker 16: if I was in the leather is starting to get

684
00:40:35,455 --> 00:40:37,575
Speaker 16: a rural but yeah, funny on it if I use

685
00:40:37,655 --> 00:40:38,615
Speaker 16: lindseed oil on that.

686
00:40:39,375 --> 00:40:44,735
Speaker 3: I've been endlessly fascinated by that repair shop show on TV,

687
00:40:44,975 --> 00:40:47,415
Speaker 3: you know, the one from Britain, and there's that fabulous

688
00:40:47,655 --> 00:40:50,855
Speaker 3: woman there who does the leather repair and she seems

689
00:40:50,895 --> 00:40:55,535
Speaker 3: to have these magical sort of revival reviving type oils

690
00:40:55,615 --> 00:40:58,215
Speaker 3: that they apply to leather. So I'm not sure about

691
00:40:58,335 --> 00:41:01,575
Speaker 3: linseed oil on leather. It might work, but I'm sure

692
00:41:01,615 --> 00:41:03,415
Speaker 3: that if you did a search or I don't know,

693
00:41:03,495 --> 00:41:06,615
Speaker 3: maybe they've got an app or a website. But I

694
00:41:07,495 --> 00:41:10,575
Speaker 3: love that show regardless. But her work I think is extraordinary.

695
00:41:11,295 --> 00:41:14,215
Speaker 3: So there will probably be a special type of oil

696
00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:17,695
Speaker 3: or polish that you can apply to old leather. But

697
00:41:17,815 --> 00:41:20,215
Speaker 3: knock yourself out, it'll be awesome, right he Oh, we've

698
00:41:20,215 --> 00:41:22,095
Speaker 3: got new Sport and weather top of the hour at

699
00:41:22,215 --> 00:41:24,135
Speaker 3: seven o'clock. Give us a call now, we'll get things

700
00:41:24,135 --> 00:41:25,135
Speaker 3: set up back after the.

701
00:41:25,135 --> 00:41:32,615
Speaker 1: News measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first

702
00:41:32,775 --> 00:41:35,415
Speaker 1: video walfcaf the Resident Builder News Talks.

703
00:41:35,415 --> 00:41:38,935
Speaker 3: They'd be yr News Talk. They'd be just gone six

704
00:41:39,095 --> 00:41:41,815
Speaker 3: minutes after seven. Very good morning, welcome back to the program.

705
00:41:43,015 --> 00:41:44,935
Speaker 3: I keep saying this the first day of February. There's

706
00:41:44,975 --> 00:41:47,255
Speaker 3: part of me that just goes like, what, how did

707
00:41:47,335 --> 00:41:48,935
Speaker 3: that happen? I'm sure I'll be saying that when we

708
00:41:49,095 --> 00:41:51,855
Speaker 3: roll over to March in April and onwards and onwards.

709
00:41:51,935 --> 00:41:55,135
Speaker 3: But it is indeed February and a short working week.

710
00:41:55,175 --> 00:41:58,135
Speaker 3: Of course White Tony Day on Friday as well, so

711
00:41:58,175 --> 00:42:00,655
Speaker 3: another long weekend, which is awesome. Oh eight hundred and

712
00:42:00,695 --> 00:42:03,695
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's particularly

713
00:42:03,695 --> 00:42:07,775
Speaker 3: awesome if you've got projects right, So maybe when was

714
00:42:07,815 --> 00:42:11,335
Speaker 3: it last Monday was Auckland Anniversary Day? Of course there

715
00:42:11,375 --> 00:42:13,975
Speaker 3: are other anniversary days this week I think around the country.

716
00:42:15,015 --> 00:42:17,375
Speaker 3: And then I were kind of that's about it for

717
00:42:17,495 --> 00:42:21,855
Speaker 3: the long weekends and statutory holidays until we hit Easter.

718
00:42:23,375 --> 00:42:25,895
Speaker 3: So if you've got a task to do, maybe this Friday,

719
00:42:26,615 --> 00:42:27,975
Speaker 3: is it a bad thing to be out with power

720
00:42:27,975 --> 00:42:31,335
Speaker 3: tools on why taking day? I think that's okay. Oh

721
00:42:31,415 --> 00:42:33,615
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

722
00:42:33,655 --> 00:42:35,695
Speaker 3: call if you've got a question of a building nature.

723
00:42:36,175 --> 00:42:38,135
Speaker 3: We were chatting with Michael just before the news who

724
00:42:38,215 --> 00:42:40,695
Speaker 3: was talking about old tools and the shed and old

725
00:42:40,735 --> 00:42:43,295
Speaker 3: pitchfork that he wanted to use some lindseed oil. Then

726
00:42:43,295 --> 00:42:46,015
Speaker 3: we got talking about the leather and whether or not

727
00:42:46,095 --> 00:42:50,375
Speaker 3: to apply lindseed oil to leather. And I've had thank

728
00:42:50,415 --> 00:42:52,095
Speaker 3: you for the couple of texts that have come through.

729
00:42:52,255 --> 00:42:55,775
Speaker 3: One person talking about its a product called Gillies g

730
00:42:56,135 --> 00:43:01,615
Speaker 3: I l l y Gillies. It's a balm for leather. Apparently,

731
00:43:01,655 --> 00:43:02,615
Speaker 3: can get it at N to ten.

732
00:43:04,255 --> 00:43:04,615
Speaker 14: I may.

733
00:43:05,695 --> 00:43:07,255
Speaker 3: I think I've got a couple of little jobs where

734
00:43:07,255 --> 00:43:09,535
Speaker 3: that might be quite useful. So thanks for the heads

735
00:43:09,575 --> 00:43:09,935
Speaker 3: up on that.

736
00:43:10,015 --> 00:43:10,135
Speaker 8: One.

737
00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:11,055
Speaker 3: Really appreciate that.

738
00:43:11,535 --> 00:43:11,695
Speaker 9: Right.

739
00:43:11,935 --> 00:43:14,175
Speaker 3: The lines are open. The number is eight hundred and

740
00:43:14,215 --> 00:43:17,175
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. The text is nine two nine two

741
00:43:17,575 --> 00:43:20,295
Speaker 3: or ZBZB from your mobile phone and if you'd like

742
00:43:20,415 --> 00:43:23,815
Speaker 3: to email me, it's Pete ATNEWSTALKZB dot co dot Nz.

743
00:43:24,215 --> 00:43:26,375
Speaker 3: Will take your calls as we always do, right through

744
00:43:26,535 --> 00:43:30,055
Speaker 3: till eight thirty. Then it's a change of gear and

745
00:43:30,135 --> 00:43:33,615
Speaker 3: we're into the wonderful world of entomology, wonderful world of

746
00:43:33,695 --> 00:43:36,815
Speaker 3: bugs and the garden with red climb pass from about

747
00:43:36,855 --> 00:43:40,815
Speaker 3: eight thirty this morning. Liz, Good morning, Ah.

748
00:43:40,855 --> 00:43:47,135
Speaker 17: Good morning Alli. My query is we have a about

749
00:43:47,175 --> 00:43:50,335
Speaker 17: two years ago had a deck built out the back

750
00:43:50,415 --> 00:43:53,015
Speaker 17: which is about ten meters by about seven meters.

751
00:43:53,615 --> 00:43:55,655
Speaker 18: A third of it is covered.

752
00:43:55,495 --> 00:43:59,775
Speaker 17: By an arch goler. Yeah, and it's exposed to the harbor.

753
00:43:59,895 --> 00:44:00,095
Speaker 19: Ere.

754
00:44:00,775 --> 00:44:07,455
Speaker 17: We had a deck oil applied to it at the time,

755
00:44:08,335 --> 00:44:14,055
Speaker 17: which has now grayed off unfortunately, and we need to

756
00:44:14,175 --> 00:44:17,615
Speaker 17: obviously protect it and recoat it. I just one the

757
00:44:17,935 --> 00:44:20,295
Speaker 17: other thing that has happened with it. There seems to

758
00:44:20,375 --> 00:44:23,095
Speaker 17: be some minor cupping has happened.

759
00:44:23,295 --> 00:44:24,775
Speaker 20: With those areas.

760
00:44:25,415 --> 00:44:28,735
Speaker 17: So I'm just and it's now grayed off, so um, yes,

761
00:44:28,815 --> 00:44:32,775
Speaker 17: and we won't get that golden color back again. So

762
00:44:32,935 --> 00:44:37,655
Speaker 17: it's built made of grapper and yeah, so I'm just

763
00:44:37,735 --> 00:44:40,095
Speaker 17: wondering what we do to prep it and what we

764
00:44:40,295 --> 00:44:41,295
Speaker 17: use to recoat it.

765
00:44:41,655 --> 00:44:45,535
Speaker 3: Okay, Typically the recommendation is that once you've started with

766
00:44:45,695 --> 00:44:49,615
Speaker 3: our system, you stick with that system. So whatever you

767
00:44:49,815 --> 00:44:52,215
Speaker 3: used two years ago or whatever someone else used two

768
00:44:52,255 --> 00:44:55,055
Speaker 3: years ago, I would recommend that you stay with that

769
00:44:56,055 --> 00:44:59,175
Speaker 3: because otherwise there can be compatibility issues where you know

770
00:44:59,295 --> 00:45:03,895
Speaker 3: products will react with each other. In terms of preparation,

771
00:45:05,375 --> 00:45:08,575
Speaker 3: there are some prepar prietary deck washes. So Razine, for example,

772
00:45:08,695 --> 00:45:12,215
Speaker 3: have a solution that you can add into water, apply it,

773
00:45:13,615 --> 00:45:17,015
Speaker 3: give it a light scrub, and agitate with a not

774
00:45:17,175 --> 00:45:20,295
Speaker 3: a hard broom, but a kind of stiff bristled broom.

775
00:45:21,935 --> 00:45:27,175
Speaker 3: Leave that for a while, rinse it off. I love

776
00:45:27,255 --> 00:45:31,055
Speaker 3: water blasting all day long. Not great to do on timber.

777
00:45:31,215 --> 00:45:34,055
Speaker 3: So you can use power wash, sure, you know stand back,

778
00:45:34,215 --> 00:45:36,975
Speaker 3: use that to rinse it off. But it's the chemical

779
00:45:37,055 --> 00:45:39,855
Speaker 3: treatment that will clean off all of that moss and

780
00:45:39,935 --> 00:45:44,295
Speaker 3: mildew that collects there, opens up the spores, let that dry,

781
00:45:44,535 --> 00:45:47,215
Speaker 3: and then apply the oil that you've got. The cupping

782
00:45:47,455 --> 00:45:50,975
Speaker 3: of the boards is not really a lot that you

783
00:45:51,055 --> 00:45:53,575
Speaker 3: can do about that. Once timber moves, it tends to

784
00:45:53,735 --> 00:45:59,335
Speaker 3: stay moved basically, so unless it's really really bad, it

785
00:45:59,575 --> 00:46:02,335
Speaker 3: might settle down. As you apply some coating, it sort

786
00:46:02,375 --> 00:46:05,775
Speaker 3: of you know, releases the It adds a bit of

787
00:46:05,815 --> 00:46:07,815
Speaker 3: moisture and to the timber, and it might settle down.

788
00:46:08,335 --> 00:46:11,495
Speaker 3: But otherwise I think, unless it's really really bad, I

789
00:46:11,815 --> 00:46:14,375
Speaker 3: would just if you could live with the cupping, that'll

790
00:46:14,455 --> 00:46:16,255
Speaker 3: be that'll be ideal.

791
00:46:17,375 --> 00:46:21,135
Speaker 17: Quick query under the arch gold area where some of

792
00:46:21,215 --> 00:46:25,295
Speaker 17: it you can still see is slightly golden. Yes, deck

793
00:46:25,535 --> 00:46:28,695
Speaker 17: wash prep would that takes that off so it's an

794
00:46:28,815 --> 00:46:30,615
Speaker 17: even cower or is there something else.

795
00:46:30,535 --> 00:46:31,175
Speaker 14: We need to use?

796
00:46:31,375 --> 00:46:31,415
Speaker 21: No?

797
00:46:31,575 --> 00:46:36,095
Speaker 3: I think I'm in all reality, you know, where you've

798
00:46:36,135 --> 00:46:38,455
Speaker 3: got an area where timber has been exposed versus an

799
00:46:38,535 --> 00:46:42,335
Speaker 3: area where timber is not exposed. The timber weathers differently,

800
00:46:42,455 --> 00:46:46,015
Speaker 3: and what you're seeing there is difference in weathering due

801
00:46:46,095 --> 00:46:50,575
Speaker 3: to exposure to sun and rain and so on, so

802
00:46:50,895 --> 00:46:53,415
Speaker 3: that it's just the timber has changed. I think it

803
00:46:53,455 --> 00:46:58,175
Speaker 3: would be, yeah, be unrealistic of me to say it'll

804
00:46:58,175 --> 00:47:00,615
Speaker 3: all look the same, given that you know it's it's

805
00:47:00,695 --> 00:47:03,135
Speaker 3: been exposed to the elements for two years, right, timber

806
00:47:03,455 --> 00:47:08,135
Speaker 3: is alive even though it's dead. You know, it continues

807
00:47:08,295 --> 00:47:11,015
Speaker 3: to change depending on the conditions it's subjected to.

808
00:47:12,455 --> 00:47:15,055
Speaker 17: And is there a recommended number of coats that you

809
00:47:15,095 --> 00:47:16,455
Speaker 17: would put on to protect it.

810
00:47:17,295 --> 00:47:19,655
Speaker 3: I think, especially with an oil, what you'll find is

811
00:47:19,735 --> 00:47:21,895
Speaker 3: that if it's you know, like in an area where

812
00:47:21,935 --> 00:47:26,175
Speaker 3: it's been exposed, it will accept more oil and you'll

813
00:47:26,295 --> 00:47:28,575
Speaker 3: notice that you apply it and it's sort of you

814
00:47:28,655 --> 00:47:31,975
Speaker 3: can just almost see it sucking in to the timber.

815
00:47:32,895 --> 00:47:35,215
Speaker 3: And then if you were to apply a little bit more,

816
00:47:35,535 --> 00:47:37,935
Speaker 3: it will still be absorbed into the timber, but at

817
00:47:37,975 --> 00:47:40,735
Speaker 3: a slower rate. And in the other area where it's

818
00:47:40,815 --> 00:47:43,655
Speaker 3: less exposed, you might find that just one coat and

819
00:47:43,975 --> 00:47:47,855
Speaker 3: it'll take longer to absorb into the timber. So it's

820
00:47:47,975 --> 00:47:51,255
Speaker 3: just a balancing there of going if it will accept

821
00:47:51,295 --> 00:47:53,095
Speaker 3: a little bit more, give it a little bit more,

822
00:47:53,215 --> 00:47:55,815
Speaker 3: and where it won't, then don't apply too much. It'll

823
00:47:55,895 --> 00:47:59,575
Speaker 3: it'll saturate and be saturated and you'll get a sense

824
00:47:59,615 --> 00:48:05,295
Speaker 3: of that. Okay, alrighty, lovely journey. Thank you all the best,

825
00:48:05,615 --> 00:48:09,015
Speaker 3: Take care of your news. Talk CP lines are open

826
00:48:09,095 --> 00:48:12,135
Speaker 3: at eight hundred eighty the number to call leap here.

827
00:48:12,215 --> 00:48:15,775
Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, greetings, greasings.

828
00:48:17,615 --> 00:48:24,095
Speaker 8: Look at us calling we we've we've had our home

829
00:48:24,215 --> 00:48:27,095
Speaker 8: on the market and we had an offer from a

830
00:48:27,175 --> 00:48:33,215
Speaker 8: developer which we accepted. Now on all we assume he's

831
00:48:33,255 --> 00:48:36,895
Speaker 8: going to bowl our house yep, and and build what

832
00:48:37,175 --> 00:48:43,975
Speaker 8: my apartments or townhouses are. Now the agents have got

833
00:48:44,055 --> 00:48:46,335
Speaker 8: back to us to tell us that he's hit a

834
00:48:46,455 --> 00:48:50,415
Speaker 8: stalemate with a neighbor who has I think it is

835
00:48:50,575 --> 00:48:54,895
Speaker 8: the storm water on her side of our boundary.

836
00:48:54,575 --> 00:48:55,055
Speaker 1: And is.

837
00:48:56,735 --> 00:49:02,655
Speaker 8: Kind of non complained to provide consent. Right now, Why

838
00:49:02,735 --> 00:49:07,815
Speaker 8: does that leave us? I mean things like and by

839
00:49:07,975 --> 00:49:17,135
Speaker 8: all accounts, the developer doesn't appear to be pursuing a present.

840
00:49:18,135 --> 00:49:22,055
Speaker 3: Right Okay, so where are you at. So have you

841
00:49:22,255 --> 00:49:26,775
Speaker 3: had an offer for your property from the developer, but

842
00:49:27,015 --> 00:49:30,855
Speaker 3: that offer obviously has not gone unconditional. So a deposit

843
00:49:30,975 --> 00:49:32,695
Speaker 3: hasn't been paid or anything like that.

844
00:49:33,655 --> 00:49:39,975
Speaker 8: Okay, it was to be paid, but it's it's gone

845
00:49:40,015 --> 00:49:40,535
Speaker 8: over date.

846
00:49:41,095 --> 00:49:45,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, So an offer was made, you

847
00:49:45,295 --> 00:49:50,615
Speaker 3: accepted the offer, but it hasn't gone unconditional. It hasn't

848
00:49:50,615 --> 00:49:56,295
Speaker 3: been countersigned essentially by the developer or by the new owner.

849
00:49:57,815 --> 00:50:00,455
Speaker 8: So not the new owner of the neighbor.

850
00:50:01,055 --> 00:50:06,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm putting myself in the developer's shoes, right.

851
00:50:06,295 --> 00:50:09,695
Speaker 3: So the developers interested in the piece of land, They've

852
00:50:09,735 --> 00:50:12,335
Speaker 3: come to you, They've they've worked out a price, They've

853
00:50:12,695 --> 00:50:15,455
Speaker 3: as part of their due diligence, they've gone to the

854
00:50:15,575 --> 00:50:20,335
Speaker 3: neighbor and said, hey, look, you've got access to the

855
00:50:20,415 --> 00:50:23,935
Speaker 3: storm water. I'm interested in the property extore. Will I

856
00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:26,055
Speaker 3: be able to get access to your property to do

857
00:50:26,175 --> 00:50:29,935
Speaker 3: the storm water? And the neighbors said no, basically, in

858
00:50:29,975 --> 00:50:30,655
Speaker 3: which case.

859
00:50:31,015 --> 00:50:37,135
Speaker 8: Details as to why, the details we haven't been given. Yeah,

860
00:50:37,215 --> 00:50:39,695
Speaker 8: we haven't been given detailed as to why.

861
00:50:39,695 --> 00:50:45,015
Speaker 3: She has not, And to be fair, as as a homeowner,

862
00:50:45,415 --> 00:50:47,615
Speaker 3: she doesn't have to give details, right, No one has

863
00:50:47,695 --> 00:50:52,055
Speaker 3: to accept developers living next doore or buying land next door.

864
00:50:52,175 --> 00:50:55,335
Speaker 3: So she's probably looking to protect her property by not

865
00:50:55,455 --> 00:50:58,255
Speaker 3: having a development next door, and a simple way of

866
00:50:58,335 --> 00:51:00,455
Speaker 3: doing that is to go, I'm just not going to

867
00:51:00,495 --> 00:51:04,575
Speaker 3: give permission. Now, there are there are pathways for the

868
00:51:04,695 --> 00:51:08,375
Speaker 3: developer to pursue in terms of going to counsel and

869
00:51:08,535 --> 00:51:13,815
Speaker 3: effectively forcing access to that property. Typically what developers would

870
00:51:13,895 --> 00:51:16,895
Speaker 3: do is they go to the property and go, hey, look,

871
00:51:16,975 --> 00:51:19,695
Speaker 3: I'm going to do this. Would you accept this one

872
00:51:19,775 --> 00:51:20,535
Speaker 3: off payment?

873
00:51:21,975 --> 00:51:22,135
Speaker 21: You know?

874
00:51:22,935 --> 00:51:26,775
Speaker 3: And then people go, sure, I'll take five grand, ten grand,

875
00:51:26,815 --> 00:51:28,255
Speaker 3: twenty grand, fifty grand whatever.

876
00:51:28,295 --> 00:51:30,375
Speaker 8: It's going to be like olive branch.

877
00:51:30,575 --> 00:51:35,135
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. Right, you've got something that they want. Typically,

878
00:51:35,255 --> 00:51:37,775
Speaker 3: the way that we do these things is we exchange money. Right,

879
00:51:38,495 --> 00:51:40,775
Speaker 3: So if the developer is not prepared to pay the

880
00:51:40,855 --> 00:51:44,815
Speaker 3: neighbor for access, then he's probably they are looking at

881
00:51:44,895 --> 00:51:47,935
Speaker 3: it going I can't be bothered with with it. There's

882
00:51:47,975 --> 00:51:50,935
Speaker 3: too much risk involved in me settling on a property

883
00:51:51,455 --> 00:51:53,495
Speaker 3: if I don't know that I can do the development

884
00:51:53,775 --> 00:51:56,895
Speaker 3: because I can't deal with the storm water or that's

885
00:51:57,015 --> 00:52:00,935
Speaker 3: the simplest stormwater solution and if I have to do

886
00:52:01,015 --> 00:52:04,775
Speaker 3: a more complicated solution, which might involve, you know, digging

887
00:52:04,935 --> 00:52:08,975
Speaker 3: or thrusting for meeters and meeters and meters to connect

888
00:52:09,015 --> 00:52:11,695
Speaker 3: somewhere else, or installing a pump and all the rest

889
00:52:11,735 --> 00:52:14,055
Speaker 3: of it. You know, I've got a five thousand dollar

890
00:52:14,175 --> 00:52:17,495
Speaker 3: fix or I've got a one hundred thousand dollar ficks

891
00:52:17,575 --> 00:52:19,455
Speaker 3: what do you? You know that sort of thing. So

892
00:52:19,775 --> 00:52:27,055
Speaker 3: I guess you could go to the neighbor. But the

893
00:52:27,135 --> 00:52:31,295
Speaker 3: neighbor's also entitled to tell you that she's they're not interested.

894
00:52:31,055 --> 00:52:37,855
Speaker 8: Right, No, I mean we'd go and offer maybe five thousand,

895
00:52:38,215 --> 00:52:39,015
Speaker 8: we'd take it off.

896
00:52:40,215 --> 00:52:44,455
Speaker 3: You'd want to run that past your lawyer as well,

897
00:52:44,615 --> 00:52:47,095
Speaker 3: because you don't want to be in a situation where

898
00:52:47,815 --> 00:52:52,175
Speaker 3: you have offered money but then that the neighbor doesn't

899
00:52:52,295 --> 00:52:56,775
Speaker 3: then guarantee that whoever buys the property gets that you've

900
00:52:56,895 --> 00:53:00,935
Speaker 3: negotiated an agreement. Does that agreement then transfer to a

901
00:53:01,015 --> 00:53:04,535
Speaker 3: third party immediately? You'd want to know that, right, So

902
00:53:04,655 --> 00:53:11,535
Speaker 3: there's there's a little bit involved there. I in my

903
00:53:11,735 --> 00:53:18,975
Speaker 3: experience these sorts of things, either there's an initial offers,

904
00:53:19,135 --> 00:53:22,415
Speaker 3: here's some here's a payment. Right, we accept that it's disruptive,

905
00:53:22,615 --> 00:53:25,135
Speaker 3: but we need access to to your property in order

906
00:53:25,215 --> 00:53:29,615
Speaker 3: to get access to the public storm water line. The

907
00:53:29,695 --> 00:53:33,495
Speaker 3: neighbor at a certain point can be forced to grant

908
00:53:33,735 --> 00:53:37,255
Speaker 3: access in some cases, but that's quite a long process.

909
00:53:37,295 --> 00:53:39,855
Speaker 3: And again, if you're a developer and you've got however

910
00:53:40,055 --> 00:53:43,095
Speaker 3: much capital invested in that property and it's chewing your

911
00:53:43,175 --> 00:53:45,655
Speaker 3: arm off with a mortgage, you don't want to be

912
00:53:45,735 --> 00:53:47,615
Speaker 3: waiting a year to get it sorted out. You want

913
00:53:47,615 --> 00:53:49,535
Speaker 3: to be able to start building straight away. So that's

914
00:53:49,575 --> 00:53:57,335
Speaker 3: what that's about. Yeah, fascinating those kind of a your options.

915
00:53:57,375 --> 00:54:01,575
Speaker 3: That's that's where it's heating. Sorry, was there a question?

916
00:54:01,695 --> 00:54:04,175
Speaker 8: There quite a common assurance.

917
00:54:05,495 --> 00:54:08,495
Speaker 3: I think it's not uncommon, and it's certainly going to

918
00:54:08,615 --> 00:54:14,535
Speaker 3: become more common as intensification in our main cities increases.

919
00:54:14,615 --> 00:54:17,615
Speaker 3: So you know, it's often a case where particularly older

920
00:54:18,055 --> 00:54:21,015
Speaker 3: you know, in older or established suburbs, right, there's not

921
00:54:21,375 --> 00:54:25,855
Speaker 3: the infrastructure that allows for an easy connection. So you know,

922
00:54:25,935 --> 00:54:29,135
Speaker 3: I know of developers and builders who have had to

923
00:54:30,575 --> 00:54:34,975
Speaker 3: you know, potentially thrust forty or fifty meters in order

924
00:54:35,095 --> 00:54:39,055
Speaker 3: to get connection to a council storm water or they've

925
00:54:39,175 --> 00:54:41,935
Speaker 3: been told in order to get your consent, you've got

926
00:54:42,015 --> 00:54:45,775
Speaker 3: to upgrade the stormwater in the street, and then suddenly

927
00:54:45,855 --> 00:54:49,575
Speaker 3: they're you know, one hundred thousand dollars down because they've

928
00:54:49,615 --> 00:54:52,855
Speaker 3: had to upgrade everybody else's stormwater. It's not often in

929
00:54:53,055 --> 00:54:56,775
Speaker 3: older established suburbs that there happens to be public infrastructure

930
00:54:57,175 --> 00:54:59,975
Speaker 3: right on the boundary. That's what it is.

931
00:55:01,815 --> 00:55:07,695
Speaker 8: Yeah, we are in an older established and that's what happens. Yeah,

932
00:55:08,295 --> 00:55:13,255
Speaker 8: but I mean they're flipping over property. Is like pancakes

933
00:55:13,255 --> 00:55:16,335
Speaker 8: around here. This huge development all over the show. And

934
00:55:16,375 --> 00:55:19,335
Speaker 8: I was thinking, well, you know, and much.

935
00:55:19,175 --> 00:55:22,095
Speaker 3: Of that will be you know, the developer goes to

936
00:55:22,215 --> 00:55:25,335
Speaker 3: the you know, they're interested in your section, They knock

937
00:55:25,415 --> 00:55:28,495
Speaker 3: on the door, they have a nice chat. They go, look,

938
00:55:28,775 --> 00:55:31,455
Speaker 3: it's you know, two meters in from the boundary is

939
00:55:31,535 --> 00:55:34,015
Speaker 3: the public line. I need to get access to that.

940
00:55:34,135 --> 00:55:36,135
Speaker 3: I've got to put a man hole in. I'm going

941
00:55:36,175 --> 00:55:38,415
Speaker 3: to make a connection. We might rip up part of

942
00:55:38,455 --> 00:55:40,535
Speaker 3: your garden, but I'll replant it. I'll do all of

943
00:55:40,575 --> 00:55:44,695
Speaker 3: these sorts of things. Thank you for your consideration. Can

944
00:55:44,775 --> 00:55:47,775
Speaker 3: I offer you X number of dollars and a lot

945
00:55:47,815 --> 00:55:50,855
Speaker 3: a lot of people go sure, and some people say no,

946
00:55:51,735 --> 00:55:53,095
Speaker 3: and that's their right.

947
00:55:53,895 --> 00:55:56,055
Speaker 8: Okay, So my work and argue we can go and

948
00:55:56,215 --> 00:55:57,055
Speaker 8: pay them at present.

949
00:55:58,135 --> 00:56:05,015
Speaker 3: You could, but I again, in fact, I was. I was,

950
00:56:05,095 --> 00:56:06,735
Speaker 3: actually I was at a funeral to talking with a

951
00:56:06,775 --> 00:56:09,455
Speaker 3: lawyer who happens to listen to the show when he's

952
00:56:09,495 --> 00:56:14,455
Speaker 3: going to Mass in the morning, and so I'm sure

953
00:56:14,535 --> 00:56:17,615
Speaker 3: he would appreciate Tony, if you're listening, Tony would probably

954
00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:20,055
Speaker 3: appreciate me saying, make sure you talk to your lawyer

955
00:56:20,215 --> 00:56:22,615
Speaker 3: as well. Lovely to talk to an EP. You take

956
00:56:22,655 --> 00:56:25,335
Speaker 3: care all of this, all of us bother.

957
00:56:25,455 --> 00:56:25,615
Speaker 8: Then.

958
00:56:26,535 --> 00:56:29,015
Speaker 3: I have to say, it's always slightly nervous. I get

959
00:56:29,055 --> 00:56:31,335
Speaker 3: a little bit nervous when I'm at an event. In

960
00:56:31,495 --> 00:56:35,295
Speaker 3: this case, it was a funeral, and I was talking

961
00:56:35,375 --> 00:56:37,095
Speaker 3: to Tony, who I've known for a number of years,

962
00:56:38,255 --> 00:56:39,975
Speaker 3: and he said, I listened to the show, and I'm like,

963
00:56:40,255 --> 00:56:42,975
Speaker 3: oh man, you must cringe every time I sort of

964
00:56:43,095 --> 00:56:47,215
Speaker 3: offer up my bush lawyer's opinion. But yes, in this event,

965
00:56:47,335 --> 00:56:50,295
Speaker 3: go and talk to your lawyer, Tony. I hope you're

966
00:56:50,295 --> 00:56:52,975
Speaker 3: having a great day. It is twenty one minutes after seven.

967
00:56:52,975 --> 00:56:54,535
Speaker 3: Will take a break. We'll be back with Bonnie in

968
00:56:54,655 --> 00:56:55,095
Speaker 3: just a moment.

969
00:56:55,855 --> 00:56:58,775
Speaker 1: Doing other house sorting the garden asked Pete for ahead

970
00:56:59,095 --> 00:57:03,615
Speaker 1: the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call OH eight News

971
00:57:03,695 --> 00:57:04,255
Speaker 1: Talks Envy.

972
00:57:05,175 --> 00:57:06,935
Speaker 3: Just to wrap up the conversation, want them here. A

973
00:57:07,015 --> 00:57:13,295
Speaker 3: moment ago, someone has very succinctly summarized the situation. The

974
00:57:13,375 --> 00:57:16,535
Speaker 3: neighbor probably said no because she doesn't want six three

975
00:57:16,615 --> 00:57:19,495
Speaker 3: story townhouses looking into her backyard and blocking your son

976
00:57:19,535 --> 00:57:22,815
Speaker 3: and dropping the value of her house. You're probably right,

977
00:57:23,935 --> 00:57:27,415
Speaker 3: Thanks for that, Kevin. And look, some people kind of

978
00:57:27,495 --> 00:57:31,655
Speaker 3: accept that intensifications coming. Some people don't. But in the end,

979
00:57:31,895 --> 00:57:35,175
Speaker 3: if you're the property owner, you do get to decide.

980
00:57:35,215 --> 00:57:40,775
Speaker 3: Although there are mechanisms whereby you know, if intensification is

981
00:57:40,855 --> 00:57:46,335
Speaker 3: allowed through planning and zoning, then developers can apply through

982
00:57:46,975 --> 00:57:50,215
Speaker 3: counsel and through planning for access to you can't actually,

983
00:57:51,215 --> 00:57:53,935
Speaker 3: well no, I'd better check this. My understanding is that

984
00:57:54,135 --> 00:57:59,415
Speaker 3: you can't unreasonably withhold access to a public service. If

985
00:57:59,455 --> 00:58:02,375
Speaker 3: there's public stormwater and someone needs access and they've got

986
00:58:02,415 --> 00:58:06,175
Speaker 3: permission to do the development, but it can take a

987
00:58:06,455 --> 00:58:09,615
Speaker 3: long time for that to happen. Oh eight one hundred

988
00:58:09,775 --> 00:58:13,735
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number. Call Bonnie. Hello there,

989
00:58:14,535 --> 00:58:16,375
Speaker 3: good morning, Peter. How are your readings?

990
00:58:16,535 --> 00:58:18,255
Speaker 13: I'm very well awesome.

991
00:58:18,335 --> 00:58:18,655
Speaker 3: Awesome.

992
00:58:18,975 --> 00:58:21,775
Speaker 7: Have a quick question. Sure, we are putting up a verandah,

993
00:58:22,055 --> 00:58:26,855
Speaker 7: And in my female brain, I thought I would stain

994
00:58:27,295 --> 00:58:31,975
Speaker 7: the wood before I put the PBC roofing on. And

995
00:58:33,135 --> 00:58:37,375
Speaker 7: I have stained it all charcoal and so that I

996
00:58:37,415 --> 00:58:39,455
Speaker 7: don't get charcoal on the PVC roothing.

997
00:58:39,775 --> 00:58:40,095
Speaker 3: Gotcha?

998
00:58:40,415 --> 00:58:48,735
Speaker 7: And now I read the PVC blue and it should

999
00:58:48,775 --> 00:58:51,535
Speaker 7: be painted white. The tops should be painted white. Do

1000
00:58:51,615 --> 00:58:53,735
Speaker 7: I need to go and paint the top of the

1001
00:58:55,295 --> 00:58:59,935
Speaker 7: pearlins and rafters white? Or am I overacting?

1002
00:59:01,415 --> 00:59:06,375
Speaker 3: It's interesting that they I suppose. The question is the

1003
00:59:06,455 --> 00:59:12,455
Speaker 3: recommendation from the manufacturer to paint it white because there

1004
00:59:12,615 --> 00:59:17,095
Speaker 3: is you know, something about the reflective nature of other

1005
00:59:17,175 --> 00:59:20,895
Speaker 3: colors that might impact on the durability longevity of the PVC.

1006
00:59:21,695 --> 00:59:24,615
Speaker 3: Or is it simply that it means that if someone's

1007
00:59:24,655 --> 00:59:26,975
Speaker 3: looking at their product and they see all these dark

1008
00:59:27,175 --> 00:59:29,535
Speaker 3: lines behind it, it's going to be less attractive. So

1009
00:59:30,575 --> 00:59:33,375
Speaker 3: it would depend on whether the recommendation from the manufacturer

1010
00:59:33,495 --> 00:59:37,015
Speaker 3: is about durability as opposed to appearance. If it's just

1011
00:59:37,055 --> 00:59:39,855
Speaker 3: about appearance, it's your house. You can do what you like, right,

1012
00:59:41,335 --> 00:59:43,695
Speaker 3: But if it's if it is a like I say,

1013
00:59:43,815 --> 00:59:48,095
Speaker 3: durability issue. You could just call the manufacturer, well the distributor,

1014
00:59:48,135 --> 00:59:50,695
Speaker 3: and say, look, is there a particular reason you've done that.

1015
00:59:51,495 --> 00:59:55,695
Speaker 3: Have you now completed the structure, stained that which is sensible,

1016
00:59:55,815 --> 00:59:59,695
Speaker 3: and then applied the PVC coating.

1017
00:59:59,455 --> 00:59:59,615
Speaker 4: Or the.

1018
01:00:01,135 --> 01:00:01,455
Speaker 3: Roofing.

1019
01:00:06,335 --> 01:00:11,255
Speaker 7: So I was reading through it right, it means I've

1020
01:00:11,255 --> 01:00:13,295
Speaker 7: got to get up and pay the top of everything white.

1021
01:00:15,335 --> 01:00:18,375
Speaker 3: I think it would be worth phoning the distributor or

1022
01:00:18,455 --> 01:00:21,095
Speaker 3: the manufacturer of the product and just going, look, can

1023
01:00:21,135 --> 01:00:23,295
Speaker 3: you just explain to me what the rationale is for

1024
01:00:23,975 --> 01:00:28,255
Speaker 3: the recommendation and if it's if it impacts on the durability,

1025
01:00:28,455 --> 01:00:31,175
Speaker 3: then yes, I would probably well you'd want to stick

1026
01:00:31,295 --> 01:00:35,855
Speaker 3: with the manufacturer's recommendation. It might be that they're concerned

1027
01:00:36,055 --> 01:00:41,015
Speaker 3: about let's say, the product reacting with the treatment or

1028
01:00:41,095 --> 01:00:45,575
Speaker 3: with the coating. So for example, the coating when it

1029
01:00:45,655 --> 01:00:49,815
Speaker 3: gets hot might become flexible or dissolve or something like that,

1030
01:00:50,055 --> 01:00:52,895
Speaker 3: and so in which case it might be as simple

1031
01:00:53,175 --> 01:00:56,175
Speaker 3: as putting a white tape over the top. So rather

1032
01:00:56,215 --> 01:00:58,455
Speaker 3: than having to go and paint it all, you could

1033
01:00:58,535 --> 01:01:01,055
Speaker 3: just apply like a white tape or a bandage to

1034
01:01:01,175 --> 01:01:03,455
Speaker 3: the top that you won't see from below. But that

1035
01:01:03,695 --> 01:01:06,215
Speaker 3: meets the manufacturer's recommendation.

1036
01:01:07,335 --> 01:01:09,935
Speaker 7: Okay, because I have I have got the role of

1037
01:01:10,055 --> 01:01:15,015
Speaker 7: tape that you put under the PVC for flexibility. I

1038
01:01:15,135 --> 01:01:16,815
Speaker 7: wonder if that will be I'll give them a call.

1039
01:01:17,135 --> 01:01:18,655
Speaker 3: I think just because you know, it's one of those

1040
01:01:18,735 --> 01:01:25,135
Speaker 3: things that it's understanding why the recommendations are made right,

1041
01:01:26,735 --> 01:01:28,655
Speaker 3: and that will give you a guidance as to what

1042
01:01:28,735 --> 01:01:30,655
Speaker 3: you should now do. But either way, it's not going

1043
01:01:30,695 --> 01:01:31,695
Speaker 3: to be a complex fix.

1044
01:01:31,815 --> 01:01:32,175
Speaker 8: I think.

1045
01:01:33,775 --> 01:01:37,415
Speaker 3: Awesome, lovely to chat with. You take care of them

1046
01:01:37,855 --> 01:01:43,375
Speaker 3: by way your news talk c B. Someone someone's talking

1047
01:01:43,375 --> 01:01:45,735
Speaker 3: about my obsession with water blasting. I don't know that

1048
01:01:45,815 --> 01:01:50,135
Speaker 3: I have an obception with it, but no one can

1049
01:01:50,295 --> 01:01:56,775
Speaker 3: argue that water blasting is not intensely satisfying occupation right

1050
01:01:57,175 --> 01:02:00,655
Speaker 3: or undertaking, or activity or past time or hobby. I

1051
01:02:00,775 --> 01:02:04,015
Speaker 3: don't mind how you describe it. If if you've got

1052
01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:07,135
Speaker 3: a grimy surface and you've got a water blaster, it's

1053
01:02:07,255 --> 01:02:11,735
Speaker 3: like happy days. Can you do a reparable damage to

1054
01:02:11,815 --> 01:02:15,135
Speaker 3: the surfaces? Yes you can if you're a bit of

1055
01:02:15,175 --> 01:02:19,575
Speaker 3: a wild head muppet and you just attack it. That's

1056
01:02:19,695 --> 01:02:23,655
Speaker 3: not the approach. But in terms of cleaning surfaces, they

1057
01:02:23,695 --> 01:02:26,695
Speaker 3: are wonderful things. Pete says the stecks to your auder

1058
01:02:26,735 --> 01:02:29,695
Speaker 3: blasting obsession, especially on concrete, is the most damaging process

1059
01:02:29,735 --> 01:02:32,735
Speaker 3: for concrete next to acid ishing. It removes the hardest

1060
01:02:32,775 --> 01:02:34,815
Speaker 3: part of the concrete. This leads to further damage and

1061
01:02:34,855 --> 01:02:38,015
Speaker 3: the need to repeat. Best to scrub with low pressure water.

1062
01:02:38,575 --> 01:02:42,095
Speaker 3: I agree it's not as much fun, but I agree.

1063
01:02:42,415 --> 01:02:44,575
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty, might take a break,

1064
01:02:44,615 --> 01:02:46,375
Speaker 3: then we'll come chat with Alan. If you've got a

1065
01:02:46,455 --> 01:02:49,215
Speaker 3: question of building nature, please call us, Oh eight hundred

1066
01:02:49,295 --> 01:02:50,215
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

1067
01:02:50,215 --> 01:02:53,095
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting with ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering

1068
01:02:53,135 --> 01:02:55,215
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

1069
01:02:55,295 --> 01:03:00,495
Speaker 1: Wolfgaffer call on eighty the resident builder on you dogs b.

1070
01:03:01,935 --> 01:03:04,935
Speaker 3: And amongst the other texts that have arrived, any has

1071
01:03:05,055 --> 01:03:08,015
Speaker 3: text me anything. Thank you very much for your text.

1072
01:03:08,095 --> 01:03:12,135
Speaker 3: It's appreciated and I'll pass it on. So thanks very

1073
01:03:12,215 --> 01:03:16,335
Speaker 3: much for that radio. Where are we at, Let's talk

1074
01:03:16,375 --> 01:03:19,135
Speaker 3: to Ellen. Good morning, Ellen, come.

1075
01:03:21,175 --> 01:03:23,375
Speaker 14: Very well, very good.

1076
01:03:24,335 --> 01:03:27,015
Speaker 9: I'm getting a new two new heres is built up

1077
01:03:27,055 --> 01:03:27,775
Speaker 9: alongside me.

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01:03:28,015 --> 01:03:29,535
Speaker 3: Yes and.

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01:03:31,935 --> 01:03:38,815
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think since dagno sections out there's a lot

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01:03:38,895 --> 01:03:43,535
Speaker 9: of water right when it rains, it runs out in

1081
01:03:43,535 --> 01:03:50,535
Speaker 9: the foot path away was out. But when finished and

1082
01:03:50,695 --> 01:03:54,535
Speaker 9: the wall between neighbors would be fix the answer.

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01:03:54,215 --> 01:03:54,695
Speaker 18: Wouldn't it.

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01:03:56,215 --> 01:03:58,495
Speaker 9: If you want coming on to my property, if theaved

1085
01:03:58,575 --> 01:04:00,375
Speaker 9: my water down onto these properties.

1086
01:04:01,095 --> 01:04:05,655
Speaker 3: Yeah, although you know, if the developer next door has

1087
01:04:05,855 --> 01:04:10,575
Speaker 3: chained the water flow, they need to control it. It

1088
01:04:10,615 --> 01:04:14,695
Speaker 3: shouldn't be your responsibility to do it. So, you know,

1089
01:04:14,855 --> 01:04:17,415
Speaker 3: once the developed, I mean there's always that period of

1090
01:04:17,495 --> 01:04:22,975
Speaker 3: time when you know the works are underway. Obviously developers,

1091
01:04:23,175 --> 01:04:28,295
Speaker 3: builders need have a responsibility to control storm water during construction,

1092
01:04:28,455 --> 01:04:32,935
Speaker 3: so silt fences and temporary controls. Then once the house

1093
01:04:33,255 --> 01:04:35,855
Speaker 3: is established, you know, there's often a period of time

1094
01:04:35,935 --> 01:04:38,815
Speaker 3: where the roof goes on, maybe the spoutings on, but

1095
01:04:38,855 --> 01:04:41,135
Speaker 3: they haven't done the downpipes, they haven't done the drainage,

1096
01:04:41,175 --> 01:04:43,415
Speaker 3: and that's that's always a bit challenging to control that.

1097
01:04:43,655 --> 01:04:47,735
Speaker 3: But once the buildings are nearing completion, you would expect

1098
01:04:47,815 --> 01:04:50,455
Speaker 3: that all of the storm water, all of the stormwater

1099
01:04:50,535 --> 01:04:53,055
Speaker 3: that falls on the ground is controlled in some way.

1100
01:04:53,135 --> 01:04:59,415
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be directed to you. I've certainly seen developers

1101
01:04:59,455 --> 01:05:04,735
Speaker 3: who seemingly don't understand that. You know, you can't just

1102
01:05:04,935 --> 01:05:07,335
Speaker 3: put a great, big concrete d iway on and have

1103
01:05:08,055 --> 01:05:11,855
Speaker 3: the edge of that shedding water to the neighbor. Should

1104
01:05:11,895 --> 01:05:14,535
Speaker 3: have a swale or a channel or a curb that

1105
01:05:15,495 --> 01:05:21,215
Speaker 3: channels the water to and approve stormwater. I did see

1106
01:05:21,255 --> 01:05:23,655
Speaker 3: one the other day where a long driveway was done

1107
01:05:23,895 --> 01:05:27,175
Speaker 3: and seemingly at the end there was no stormwater collection whatsoever,

1108
01:05:28,295 --> 01:05:30,375
Speaker 3: which I challenged and went, I don't know how you

1109
01:05:30,895 --> 01:05:33,935
Speaker 3: got away with that, but anyway, so no, Look, I

1110
01:05:34,015 --> 01:05:37,335
Speaker 3: would expect allan that once, once it's done, they should

1111
01:05:37,375 --> 01:05:42,055
Speaker 3: control it. Shouldn't be your responsibility to control stormwater discharge

1112
01:05:42,135 --> 01:05:45,095
Speaker 3: from a neighbor, So I'd take that approach. All the

1113
01:05:45,175 --> 01:05:49,695
Speaker 3: best of you and Jess, good morning to you. Hello Jess,

1114
01:05:50,895 --> 01:05:52,095
Speaker 3: good morning, good morning.

1115
01:05:53,255 --> 01:05:53,935
Speaker 7: How are you going?

1116
01:05:54,655 --> 01:05:55,335
Speaker 3: Okay? Thank you?

1117
01:05:56,495 --> 01:05:56,775
Speaker 14: Nice?

1118
01:05:57,095 --> 01:06:00,895
Speaker 20: Hey, great kind of buyers market At the moment, I've

1119
01:06:00,975 --> 01:06:04,495
Speaker 20: been looking at a few different places and coughing up

1120
01:06:04,775 --> 01:06:07,815
Speaker 20: deeper sections and I have no idea where to start

1121
01:06:08,095 --> 01:06:13,975
Speaker 20: with retaining walls or protective barriers on those sort of

1122
01:06:14,175 --> 01:06:18,215
Speaker 20: deeper sections, but that have great views. So yeah, wondering

1123
01:06:18,255 --> 01:06:20,775
Speaker 20: if you had any insights or where to even start

1124
01:06:20,815 --> 01:06:21,495
Speaker 20: with that stuff.

1125
01:06:25,215 --> 01:06:30,335
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, we she was where to start?

1126
01:06:30,615 --> 01:06:32,295
Speaker 3: I mean there's so many things going through my head.

1127
01:06:32,375 --> 01:06:36,935
Speaker 3: One is, look at what's happened and the tragedies that

1128
01:06:37,055 --> 01:06:41,575
Speaker 3: have happened in the last couple of weeks, right, Yeah,

1129
01:06:43,255 --> 01:06:44,935
Speaker 3: and it has to be and I say that with

1130
01:06:45,135 --> 01:06:50,015
Speaker 3: the greatest of respect because you know, was it Six

1131
01:06:50,095 --> 01:06:53,175
Speaker 3: people in one location, two people in another have lost

1132
01:06:53,215 --> 01:06:55,655
Speaker 3: their lives in the last two weeks, right as a

1133
01:06:55,695 --> 01:07:02,775
Speaker 3: result of landslips. So it's understandable that councils, geotechnical engineers,

1134
01:07:02,975 --> 01:07:07,535
Speaker 3: builders and so on are cautious around it because when

1135
01:07:07,575 --> 01:07:11,855
Speaker 3: it does go wrong, it can go wrong in a

1136
01:07:11,895 --> 01:07:13,735
Speaker 3: way that will end life, right, and there's nothing more

1137
01:07:13,775 --> 01:07:17,335
Speaker 3: tragic than that. So and so, if you're looking at

1138
01:07:17,375 --> 01:07:20,255
Speaker 3: sections and you're going yets, it's not a bad price

1139
01:07:20,495 --> 01:07:24,375
Speaker 3: because it's steep, it's probably because it might be because

1140
01:07:24,415 --> 01:07:26,335
Speaker 3: others have looked at that and gone it's just not

1141
01:07:26,455 --> 01:07:32,175
Speaker 3: worth the risk or the cost of controlling that risk

1142
01:07:34,255 --> 01:07:38,855
Speaker 3: is very high, because again there's if you're an engineer, right, so,

1143
01:07:39,015 --> 01:07:42,775
Speaker 3: you've found a lovely piece of land, it's reasonably steep.

1144
01:07:45,495 --> 01:07:48,415
Speaker 3: Maybe there's been a geological or geotech survey done on it,

1145
01:07:48,575 --> 01:07:51,615
Speaker 3: but possibly not, So you don't necessarily know whether the

1146
01:07:51,775 --> 01:07:55,175
Speaker 3: slope is stable, whether it's prone to landslips, and all

1147
01:07:55,175 --> 01:07:57,415
Speaker 3: the rest of it. So if you didn't know that

1148
01:07:57,575 --> 01:08:02,335
Speaker 3: before you bought the section, you're taking that risk. I

1149
01:08:02,415 --> 01:08:04,695
Speaker 3: guess if you were looking at a section that had

1150
01:08:04,935 --> 01:08:09,815
Speaker 3: had a geotex survey done and they found that, you know,

1151
01:08:09,895 --> 01:08:13,295
Speaker 3: it's relatively stable, or that it made some suggestions for

1152
01:08:13,415 --> 01:08:17,495
Speaker 3: ways in which you could create a building platform that

1153
01:08:17,535 --> 01:08:22,415
Speaker 3: wouldn't then be subject to landslides, that would be all

1154
01:08:22,455 --> 01:08:27,655
Speaker 3: of this is about risk, right, and risk typically the

1155
01:08:27,735 --> 01:08:31,615
Speaker 3: way to a mediate it is money. So if you

1156
01:08:31,935 --> 01:08:34,455
Speaker 3: end up spending ten thousand dollars to do some minor

1157
01:08:34,535 --> 01:08:37,615
Speaker 3: retaining works, that's great. But if you bought it and

1158
01:08:37,695 --> 01:08:40,335
Speaker 3: suddenly the bill is one hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

1159
01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:42,895
Speaker 3: then it's no longer a cheap section.

1160
01:08:43,935 --> 01:08:49,695
Speaker 20: No, exactly, and I mean broadly speaking aside from the

1161
01:08:49,855 --> 01:08:56,455
Speaker 20: Geotech report, do people approach different places first and go

1162
01:08:56,655 --> 01:08:58,695
Speaker 20: get an idea of what could be done with it?

1163
01:08:59,615 --> 01:09:01,975
Speaker 20: You know, it's kind of there's there's so many options

1164
01:09:01,975 --> 01:09:03,055
Speaker 20: when you're starting from a.

1165
01:09:03,615 --> 01:09:07,495
Speaker 3: Blank slate, right, yes, there are, But then we also

1166
01:09:07,655 --> 01:09:10,415
Speaker 3: you know, it circles back to risk. So let's say

1167
01:09:10,495 --> 01:09:13,935
Speaker 3: You're standing at the roadway looking up at a section

1168
01:09:14,495 --> 01:09:17,575
Speaker 3: with a geotech engineer and you go, is it okay? Well,

1169
01:09:17,575 --> 01:09:19,055
Speaker 3: they're going to go, I'm not going to tell you

1170
01:09:19,575 --> 01:09:24,415
Speaker 3: not without undertaking reports and investigations and and you know,

1171
01:09:25,055 --> 01:09:27,855
Speaker 3: all of those sorts of things, because if you're going

1172
01:09:27,935 --> 01:09:33,215
Speaker 3: to rely on their response, their their information, they're going

1173
01:09:33,255 --> 01:09:34,815
Speaker 3: to want to make sure that it's correct. And they're

1174
01:09:34,855 --> 01:09:37,535
Speaker 3: also going to want to de risk the situation for them.

1175
01:09:38,855 --> 01:09:42,695
Speaker 3: And typically we de risk things by making sure that

1176
01:09:43,135 --> 01:09:45,415
Speaker 3: this will work, but this will be better, so let's

1177
01:09:45,455 --> 01:09:53,335
Speaker 3: do better, you know. So, yeah, you can see how

1178
01:09:53,415 --> 01:09:56,455
Speaker 3: these things get really complicated, and you know, it could

1179
01:09:56,495 --> 01:09:58,895
Speaker 3: be that it's absolutely fine, but in some case you

1180
01:09:59,015 --> 01:10:02,695
Speaker 3: just don't know. And are all of the locations where

1181
01:10:02,735 --> 01:10:08,055
Speaker 3: these slips have occurred kind of predictable in hindsight maybe,

1182
01:10:08,295 --> 01:10:12,655
Speaker 3: but you know, development occurs in areas that slips have happened,

1183
01:10:12,695 --> 01:10:15,135
Speaker 3: and you know, just think about the last five or

1184
01:10:15,215 --> 01:10:18,215
Speaker 3: six years, there have been any number of slips that

1185
01:10:18,295 --> 01:10:21,335
Speaker 3: have happened across the country that have caused loss of life.

1186
01:10:21,575 --> 01:10:24,095
Speaker 3: So you can understand why people are incredibly cautious.

1187
01:10:24,855 --> 01:10:27,695
Speaker 20: M Yeah, I totally get that, and I guess there's

1188
01:10:27,735 --> 01:10:30,255
Speaker 20: lots of lots of different things that you have to

1189
01:10:30,375 --> 01:10:33,695
Speaker 20: mitigate first before you even start getting ideas for yes

1190
01:10:33,935 --> 01:10:34,735
Speaker 20: quotes and things.

1191
01:10:37,895 --> 01:10:42,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, again, it's not it's not clear,

1192
01:10:42,375 --> 01:10:47,415
Speaker 3: right because there is These things are phenomenally complex, and

1193
01:10:48,495 --> 01:10:52,375
Speaker 3: when you approach an expert for their advice, they're always

1194
01:10:52,455 --> 01:10:55,335
Speaker 3: going to be cautious and understandably.

1195
01:10:54,615 --> 01:10:58,655
Speaker 20: So mm hmmm, yeah, no, for sure, No, thank.

1196
01:10:58,535 --> 01:11:04,455
Speaker 3: You, good luck on the house hunting, all right, take

1197
01:11:04,495 --> 01:11:09,975
Speaker 3: care all of this. It's been part of my week

1198
01:11:09,975 --> 01:11:12,215
Speaker 3: as well, amongst a whole lot of other things this

1199
01:11:12,335 --> 01:11:16,015
Speaker 3: week is actually settling and selling a property which was

1200
01:11:16,255 --> 01:11:21,535
Speaker 3: kind of interesting and it sounds weird, but it's the

1201
01:11:21,615 --> 01:11:25,255
Speaker 3: first property I've ever sold or we've ever sold that

1202
01:11:25,495 --> 01:11:28,295
Speaker 3: was weird as well. And anyway, that was that was Friday,

1203
01:11:29,335 --> 01:11:31,535
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is that number to

1204
01:11:31,575 --> 01:11:33,655
Speaker 3: call seven forty two here at news TALKSB. We'll take

1205
01:11:33,695 --> 01:11:36,015
Speaker 3: a break, We'll talk to Joe in just a moment.

1206
01:11:36,815 --> 01:11:38,895
Speaker 3: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1207
01:11:39,135 --> 01:11:42,415
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1208
01:11:42,655 --> 01:11:43,655
Speaker 1: on News talks HEB.

1209
01:11:44,815 --> 01:11:48,335
Speaker 3: Your News Talks hed bet is seven forty five and Joe,

1210
01:11:48,575 --> 01:11:49,655
Speaker 3: good morning.

1211
01:11:50,495 --> 01:11:52,335
Speaker 18: Good morning, Hey there, Joe, I just have a.

1212
01:11:53,975 --> 01:11:54,855
Speaker 8: I just have a question.

1213
01:11:54,975 --> 01:11:57,135
Speaker 18: We've going to weather board at home, and it's some

1214
01:11:57,295 --> 01:11:59,735
Speaker 18: built in the fifties and on the corners you notice

1215
01:11:59,775 --> 01:12:01,455
Speaker 18: there's quite a bit of cracking, And I was looking

1216
01:12:01,495 --> 01:12:05,695
Speaker 18: at putting those little metal angle brackets over the corners, yes,

1217
01:12:06,935 --> 01:12:09,535
Speaker 18: and wondering whether it's worthwhile putting a bead of siligan

1218
01:12:10,335 --> 01:12:13,655
Speaker 18: down each edge when I do that to prevent any

1219
01:12:13,775 --> 01:12:15,295
Speaker 18: morsture getting attained in there.

1220
01:12:17,935 --> 01:12:22,095
Speaker 3: Typically I mean so corner soakers. So if it's interesting

1221
01:12:22,135 --> 01:12:24,295
Speaker 3: that it's an older house that didn't do socas, so

1222
01:12:24,375 --> 01:12:27,655
Speaker 3: they must have been very meticulous around their compound miters

1223
01:12:28,495 --> 01:12:29,855
Speaker 3: to have them come together.

1224
01:12:30,935 --> 01:12:33,855
Speaker 18: So yeah, you do notice a bit of cracking.

1225
01:12:34,135 --> 01:12:38,575
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, not unexpectedly after it's getting on seventy years,

1226
01:12:38,615 --> 01:12:44,175
Speaker 3: isn't it soacas Yes, Now that one of the practical

1227
01:12:44,295 --> 01:12:47,535
Speaker 3: challenges with doing them is that obviously the soca all

1228
01:12:47,775 --> 01:12:50,175
Speaker 3: all bit very thin, like a millimeter and a half

1229
01:12:50,255 --> 01:12:52,535
Speaker 3: of metal. You're still going to have to slide that

1230
01:12:52,815 --> 01:12:56,535
Speaker 3: up under the board above, in which case you'll have

1231
01:12:56,695 --> 01:12:59,655
Speaker 3: to move each of those rows of boards as you

1232
01:12:59,815 --> 01:13:05,455
Speaker 3: insert them. So I would start from I'd start from

1233
01:13:05,495 --> 01:13:07,935
Speaker 3: the bottom and work my way up, So get the

1234
01:13:07,935 --> 01:13:10,815
Speaker 3: bottom soker on and then maybe just with a chisel

1235
01:13:10,895 --> 01:13:14,015
Speaker 3: on either edge, just wedge the chisel underneath the board

1236
01:13:14,055 --> 01:13:16,695
Speaker 3: to create a gap. Slide the next soka in. Take

1237
01:13:16,735 --> 01:13:20,375
Speaker 3: those chisels out, move up, Move up. I actually wouldn't

1238
01:13:20,495 --> 01:13:23,415
Speaker 3: do sealant because one of the other things that sealant

1239
01:13:23,495 --> 01:13:26,215
Speaker 3: does when it's used in the wrong location is trap

1240
01:13:26,415 --> 01:13:27,575
Speaker 3: moisture inside.

1241
01:13:28,695 --> 01:13:30,175
Speaker 18: Yeah, that was my concern as well.

1242
01:13:30,255 --> 01:13:30,455
Speaker 14: With it.

1243
01:13:31,055 --> 01:13:36,095
Speaker 18: It would actually, in fact not be beneficial but the detrimental.

1244
01:13:36,415 --> 01:13:41,135
Speaker 3: So I've seen it sometimes with flashings where like especially

1245
01:13:41,335 --> 01:13:43,295
Speaker 3: like I plumbing fittings and that sort of thing. Plumbers

1246
01:13:43,855 --> 01:13:45,695
Speaker 3: who know what they're doing will often do a bead

1247
01:13:45,735 --> 01:13:47,935
Speaker 3: of sealant around the top and down the sides, but

1248
01:13:48,135 --> 01:13:50,295
Speaker 3: not at the bottom, so that in the event that

1249
01:13:50,415 --> 01:13:52,775
Speaker 3: some moisture gets in, it can drain out. And I

1250
01:13:53,655 --> 01:13:56,455
Speaker 3: think it's you know, the house has obviously been durable

1251
01:13:56,495 --> 01:13:59,375
Speaker 3: for as long as it has. Adding the soakas without

1252
01:13:59,455 --> 01:14:04,695
Speaker 3: the silicon will be absolutely fine. Okay, no trouble at all.

1253
01:14:04,735 --> 01:14:06,815
Speaker 18: I will go and do it all right, thank you.

1254
01:14:07,535 --> 01:14:10,815
Speaker 3: Just it's a time consuming job. The other consideration is

1255
01:14:11,055 --> 01:14:14,455
Speaker 3: if you're in a sea spray zone, is it you know,

1256
01:14:14,815 --> 01:14:16,615
Speaker 3: you'd look at it and go, is it worth investing

1257
01:14:16,655 --> 01:14:19,895
Speaker 3: in stainless steel corner soakers as opposed to GalF.

1258
01:14:21,695 --> 01:14:21,895
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1259
01:14:22,015 --> 01:14:25,895
Speaker 18: No, where we're a good kilometer probably about two k

1260
01:14:26,095 --> 01:14:30,415
Speaker 18: from so no, we're in Nelson, so yeah, sure, and

1261
01:14:30,455 --> 01:14:33,215
Speaker 18: there's not a lot of them. Yeah cool, But just

1262
01:14:33,375 --> 01:14:37,855
Speaker 18: noticed that that the areas that has facing the sun, yes,

1263
01:14:38,975 --> 01:14:40,415
Speaker 18: quite quickly. Where is the other corner?

1264
01:14:40,495 --> 01:14:40,975
Speaker 8: So fine?

1265
01:14:41,175 --> 01:14:41,375
Speaker 22: Yep.

1266
01:14:41,415 --> 01:14:42,135
Speaker 18: And I was given a.

1267
01:14:42,135 --> 01:14:45,335
Speaker 3: Whole pile and that's we'll use them up.

1268
01:14:48,495 --> 01:14:51,295
Speaker 18: Well having to pay two backs each and yeah, and

1269
01:14:51,575 --> 01:14:52,215
Speaker 18: and the other thing.

1270
01:14:52,255 --> 01:14:54,375
Speaker 3: And because I actually I had to do some this week,

1271
01:14:54,455 --> 01:14:57,775
Speaker 3: just some flat soakers and they're just galvanized ones. And

1272
01:14:57,855 --> 01:14:59,375
Speaker 3: I thought, before I pick them up, what I'll do

1273
01:14:59,655 --> 01:15:02,895
Speaker 3: is I just had some you know, Russkill spray paint

1274
01:15:03,015 --> 01:15:04,575
Speaker 3: that sort of thing, and I just gave them a

1275
01:15:04,655 --> 01:15:06,735
Speaker 3: quick coat of spray paint before I put them up,

1276
01:15:06,735 --> 01:15:09,135
Speaker 3: because that's saving me having to prime them once they're up.

1277
01:15:11,055 --> 01:15:13,015
Speaker 18: Okay, so yeah, you do that. Because I had to

1278
01:15:13,095 --> 01:15:13,455
Speaker 18: trim a.

1279
01:15:13,495 --> 01:15:16,855
Speaker 3: Couple, yeah that's okay, Well on that exposed edge, then.

1280
01:15:16,855 --> 01:15:19,055
Speaker 18: On the bottom, on the bottom edge.

1281
01:15:19,135 --> 01:15:22,015
Speaker 3: Give that a little bit of a lick of a

1282
01:15:22,295 --> 01:15:27,375
Speaker 3: rustproof primer and that'll just stop any you know, that

1283
01:15:28,175 --> 01:15:30,655
Speaker 3: diminish the possibility that you get a little bit of.

1284
01:15:30,655 --> 01:15:33,575
Speaker 18: Rust on the end there, right, And would you would

1285
01:15:33,575 --> 01:15:35,255
Speaker 18: you undercoat the insign as well?

1286
01:15:36,055 --> 01:15:39,095
Speaker 3: Probably unnecessary to be fair, Yeah, yeah, that's what I

1287
01:15:39,215 --> 01:15:39,495
Speaker 3: was saying.

1288
01:15:40,135 --> 01:15:44,815
Speaker 18: All right, all right, it's.

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Speaker 3: One of those lovely afternoon jobs where you just give

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Speaker 3: yourself the time to do it, you know, don't don't rush.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, from a serious foot injury. So I've got all

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01:15:55,375 --> 01:15:57,815
Speaker 18: the time in the world, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't think of a better thing to do

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01:16:00,615 --> 01:16:02,935
Speaker 3: than enjoy doing some sokas while you're waiting for your

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01:16:02,975 --> 01:16:03,655
Speaker 3: foot to get better.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's quite all.

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Speaker 3: The very best you, Joe, take care all of us,

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Speaker 3: You and news storks. They'd be standing for a long

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01:16:13,175 --> 01:16:15,935
Speaker 3: time while I foot injury anyway. Go well, go well, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got a

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01:16:18,695 --> 01:16:23,175
Speaker 3: question of building nature, we can talk all things building

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01:16:23,215 --> 01:16:27,495
Speaker 3: and construction. Other text that's come through this is about

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01:16:28,735 --> 01:16:32,535
Speaker 3: ground levels and water and so on. They're talking about

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01:16:32,575 --> 01:16:34,535
Speaker 3: a new build area where there is a massive amount

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01:16:34,575 --> 01:16:38,215
Speaker 3: of intensification the new builds, they raise the ground level

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01:16:38,255 --> 01:16:42,455
Speaker 3: a few meters to build a flat building platform can

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01:16:42,535 --> 01:16:45,575
Speaker 3: help their view, but it does in some cases force

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01:16:45,695 --> 01:16:50,335
Speaker 3: the water onto other people's properties, which is okuess not

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01:16:50,455 --> 01:16:53,735
Speaker 3: that great. But you know, developers well, as part of planning,

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01:16:53,975 --> 01:16:56,335
Speaker 3: you have to be able to show how you're going

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01:16:56,415 --> 01:17:01,375
Speaker 3: to control storm water, and not just stormwater that's collected

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01:17:01,455 --> 01:17:05,535
Speaker 3: from the roofs, but in on driveways and hard surfaces.

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01:17:06,055 --> 01:17:08,695
Speaker 3: So you know, if you find that you've got to

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01:17:08,735 --> 01:17:12,495
Speaker 3: developer undertaking their activity next door to you and they

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01:17:12,575 --> 01:17:15,295
Speaker 3: haven't done that, then I think go to council or

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01:17:15,415 --> 01:17:18,335
Speaker 3: request a copy of the plans because my experience, they've

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01:17:18,415 --> 01:17:21,415
Speaker 3: all that's what they have to do. Oh eight hundred

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01:17:21,575 --> 01:17:28,095
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty this text, Pete, that's part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about land, you know, like sloping sections now,

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01:17:31,175 --> 01:17:35,215
Speaker 3: and you have to be cognizant of the fact that

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01:17:35,895 --> 01:17:42,175
Speaker 3: I'm thinking back to the rain that we had in Auckland. Gee,

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01:17:42,215 --> 01:17:44,375
Speaker 3: their anniversary of that's just a couple of days ago,

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01:17:44,455 --> 01:17:50,495
Speaker 3: isn't it, twenty third of January twenty twenty three, And

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01:17:51,015 --> 01:17:55,095
Speaker 3: there was landslips that caused loss of life. Obviously, we've

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01:17:55,135 --> 01:17:59,855
Speaker 3: had that tragic incident in Tolroonga and at Papamore with

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01:18:00,015 --> 01:18:04,735
Speaker 3: the loss of life there. You know, we've We're an

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01:18:04,815 --> 01:18:09,415
Speaker 3: active and young country geologically, so things are going to move.

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01:18:09,855 --> 01:18:11,935
Speaker 3: And when it moves in such a way that it

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Speaker 3: causes loss of life, you can understand what engineers, planners

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01:18:15,695 --> 01:18:19,015
Speaker 3: and so on are going to become increasingly risk averse

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01:18:20,615 --> 01:18:23,575
Speaker 3: changing weather patterns as well, you can see what the

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01:18:23,655 --> 01:18:27,735
Speaker 3: issues are. Yeah, someone's text about you know, sort of

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01:18:27,815 --> 01:18:30,695
Speaker 3: areas where a lot of soil sitting on a very

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01:18:30,735 --> 01:18:36,135
Speaker 3: hard surface that becomes saturated, it's prone to movement. You

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01:18:36,255 --> 01:18:38,255
Speaker 3: may here to comment, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:18:38,295 --> 01:18:40,735
Speaker 3: The lines are open. If you've got a text for

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01:18:41,095 --> 01:18:44,495
Speaker 3: a for me, that's great, or you can simply call

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01:18:44,775 --> 01:18:48,295
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty And I'm just trying to

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01:18:48,455 --> 01:18:52,295
Speaker 3: circle through. What about the control of land around the

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01:18:52,335 --> 01:18:56,615
Speaker 3: property in question? Yes, that's this. This links back to

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01:18:56,855 --> 01:19:01,495
Speaker 3: Jess's thing of let's say you buy a section and

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01:19:01,575 --> 01:19:04,055
Speaker 3: it might be sloping and you do some work on yours,

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01:19:04,455 --> 01:19:08,215
Speaker 3: what about adjoining or adjacent sections or probably more importantly,

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01:19:08,655 --> 01:19:13,735
Speaker 3: the ones above it as well. She Wellington not surprisingly

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01:19:14,735 --> 01:19:17,175
Speaker 3: had some issues where you know, a water pipe burst

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01:19:17,735 --> 01:19:22,495
Speaker 3: and that then caused a minor landslip sufficient to damage

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01:19:22,535 --> 01:19:25,415
Speaker 3: a house. So again, or the landslip happened, then the

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01:19:25,455 --> 01:19:28,295
Speaker 3: water pipe burst, then you've got flooding as well as

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01:19:28,375 --> 01:19:32,095
Speaker 3: the landslip. So who's responsible in those situations? Who's going

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01:19:32,135 --> 01:19:34,535
Speaker 3: to tidy that up? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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01:19:34,695 --> 01:19:38,135
Speaker 3: is the number to call Pete. Well, they've done the

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01:19:38,215 --> 01:19:40,775
Speaker 3: whole full title high Pete resident builder. We've got a

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01:19:40,855 --> 01:19:44,055
Speaker 3: pine deck. It was spray stained about twenty years ago.

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01:19:44,655 --> 01:19:47,055
Speaker 3: It's been left to weather. Now we wish to make

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01:19:47,095 --> 01:19:49,815
Speaker 3: it look better. In parts there's very old stain and

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01:19:49,975 --> 01:19:52,775
Speaker 3: other parts it's weather bear as in it's it's completely

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01:19:52,855 --> 01:19:56,815
Speaker 3: faded away. Recommended method and razine product to cover those

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01:19:56,935 --> 01:20:02,935
Speaker 3: areas water based or oil stain thoroughling. So with a

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01:20:03,015 --> 01:20:09,375
Speaker 3: proprietary deck wash agitate with a brush, rinse off, let

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01:20:09,455 --> 01:20:13,255
Speaker 3: that dry and apply. I would probably go for a

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01:20:13,415 --> 01:20:16,135
Speaker 3: water born seala over the top of that and then

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01:20:16,295 --> 01:20:19,215
Speaker 3: that is your maintenance coat from there because with the

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01:20:19,295 --> 01:20:23,255
Speaker 3: waterborne applications you can add a little bit of color

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01:20:23,295 --> 01:20:29,415
Speaker 3: in there. So if it has some an area, whether

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01:20:29,535 --> 01:20:32,495
Speaker 3: it's become discolored or faded. You could add a little

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01:20:32,495 --> 01:20:35,655
Speaker 3: bit of color because you've got color in the surface

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01:20:35,695 --> 01:20:39,095
Speaker 3: prepara in the sealer that you want to use radio.

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01:20:39,615 --> 01:20:44,015
Speaker 3: There were no landslips. There was not There was landslips. Ah,

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01:20:44,215 --> 01:20:48,335
Speaker 3: someone's correcting my grammar, to be fair. Not my biggest

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01:20:48,375 --> 01:20:51,135
Speaker 3: concern right now. It is seven forty five. I think

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01:20:51,135 --> 01:20:53,295
Speaker 3: we'll play some music up to the break. We've got

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01:20:53,375 --> 01:20:55,175
Speaker 3: new Sport and where the top of the hour at

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01:20:55,855 --> 01:20:59,735
Speaker 3: eight o'clock Red Climb passed in from eight thirty. But

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01:20:59,855 --> 01:21:02,815
Speaker 3: we'll talk all things building after New Sport and where

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01:21:02,815 --> 01:21:03,615
Speaker 3: the top of the rat.

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01:21:03,495 --> 01:21:12,055
Speaker 5: Eaten out Day's song, And there's Printed in a Day.

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01:21:14,495 --> 01:21:17,215
Speaker 4: I said, you dance, but if you don't back down,

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01:21:18,815 --> 01:21:19,495
Speaker 4: I'm just right.

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01:21:19,735 --> 01:21:21,695
Speaker 3: I'm just not lugging my belly there.

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01:21:22,055 --> 01:21:23,735
Speaker 4: I'm just not lucking my bully.

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01:21:27,215 --> 01:21:29,455
Speaker 15: Whoam go first for bloo.

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01:21:31,855 --> 01:21:33,815
Speaker 4: Whoa go Fox boot Blue.

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01:21:35,015 --> 01:21:36,775
Speaker 3: There's the pop when you're breaking all.

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01:21:36,695 --> 01:21:40,535
Speaker 10: The way down, Jump jump don't there's the five W

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01:21:40,815 --> 01:21:43,775
Speaker 10: twenty one away round round und round.

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01:21:44,335 --> 01:21:45,775
Speaker 3: Put some spirit in it.

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01:21:46,055 --> 01:21:48,095
Speaker 4: Put your heart and soul with that, bob.

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01:21:49,735 --> 01:21:51,175
Speaker 17: And if I like what I flee.

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01:21:52,815 --> 01:21:59,135
Speaker 4: Amsday passed off on the Printed in a Day, Day.

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01:22:01,135 --> 01:22:02,575
Speaker 10: Said she dance this good.

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01:22:02,735 --> 01:22:07,855
Speaker 4: You do that now, I'm just like Monday.

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01:22:34,295 --> 01:22:44,015
Speaker 1: Just we're helping you get those di y projects done right.

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01:22:44,215 --> 01:22:48,615
Speaker 1: The Resident Builder with Peter wolf Cat Call eighty Youth

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01:22:48,655 --> 01:22:49,295
Speaker 1: Talk said.

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01:22:49,175 --> 01:22:49,255
Speaker 21: Be.

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01:22:53,295 --> 01:22:53,655
Speaker 13: There you go.

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01:22:53,895 --> 01:22:56,695
Speaker 3: I did hit the button, but button doesn't seem to

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01:22:56,775 --> 01:23:00,215
Speaker 3: We're working to h to the bosses right O. Good morning,

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01:23:00,255 --> 01:23:02,255
Speaker 3: welcome back to the show. My name is Pete wolf Camp,

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01:23:02,335 --> 01:23:05,655
Speaker 3: resident Builder, and this is the Resident Builder on Sunday,

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01:23:05,735 --> 01:23:09,975
Speaker 3: on today, the first of February already, so we're cracking along.

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01:23:11,215 --> 01:23:14,255
Speaker 3: But hey, folks, it's a short week, so Friday being

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01:23:14,415 --> 01:23:18,575
Speaker 3: white Tonguey Day, we can well do whatever you feel

1405
01:23:18,655 --> 01:23:21,855
Speaker 3: like doing to celebrate white tonguey Day. It is time

1406
01:23:21,935 --> 01:23:24,055
Speaker 3: for your calls. We'll take building calls right through till

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01:23:24,575 --> 01:23:26,575
Speaker 3: around eight thirty or maybe a little bit before then,

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01:23:27,735 --> 01:23:31,495
Speaker 3: and then will join us right through till news again

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01:23:31,575 --> 01:23:35,935
Speaker 3: Top of the hour at nine o'clock radio again. A

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01:23:36,055 --> 01:23:39,855
Speaker 3: couple of texts any Robin Jim, thank you very much

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01:23:39,895 --> 01:23:42,655
Speaker 3: for your texts. There was also a text earlier on

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01:23:42,935 --> 01:23:46,775
Speaker 3: about it was in a hall, so it's effectively a

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01:23:46,855 --> 01:23:50,295
Speaker 3: public space where the group wanted to change an inward

1414
01:23:50,455 --> 01:23:54,735
Speaker 3: opening door to an outward opening door, and did they

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01:23:54,815 --> 01:23:57,895
Speaker 3: need a building consent for that? I think you might

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01:23:58,095 --> 01:24:02,935
Speaker 3: because it's part of your fire system. So if it's

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01:24:02,975 --> 01:24:05,215
Speaker 3: a public space and it's getting a building warrant of

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01:24:05,215 --> 01:24:09,735
Speaker 3: fitness and or changing something that's part of the egress

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01:24:10,095 --> 01:24:12,615
Speaker 3: in the event of a fire, I think that would

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01:24:12,695 --> 01:24:15,855
Speaker 3: typically doors. You can change a door without necessarily getting

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01:24:15,855 --> 01:24:18,135
Speaker 3: a building consent. If it's part of a fire system

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01:24:18,495 --> 01:24:22,055
Speaker 3: or part of any other system, then typically you'd need

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01:24:22,135 --> 01:24:24,415
Speaker 3: to get a consent. So I know that that's an

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01:24:24,455 --> 01:24:26,295
Speaker 3: extra couple of hoops for you to jump through as

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01:24:26,295 --> 01:24:30,735
Speaker 3: a community group looking after that community hall, But I'm

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01:24:30,815 --> 01:24:32,895
Speaker 3: pretty sure that you'll need a consent for that work.

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01:24:33,175 --> 01:24:35,255
Speaker 3: Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

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01:24:35,575 --> 01:24:39,695
Speaker 3: number to call. We've done the decking, we've talked about

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01:24:39,735 --> 01:24:42,975
Speaker 3: new builds, talked a little bit about I guess the

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01:24:43,175 --> 01:24:47,615
Speaker 3: risk of, you know, will some land I suppose we

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01:24:47,735 --> 01:24:51,895
Speaker 3: we're getting to is will some land be uneconomic to

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01:24:52,055 --> 01:24:56,015
Speaker 3: develop because of the risks of landslips and so on

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01:24:56,375 --> 01:25:01,015
Speaker 3: into the future. And I think that's a real possibility.

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01:25:01,095 --> 01:25:03,935
Speaker 3: In the same way that councils seem to finally be

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01:25:04,055 --> 01:25:06,895
Speaker 3: accepting the fact that some areas flood and they flood

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01:25:06,935 --> 01:25:09,855
Speaker 3: a lot, and we're having more and more floods, therefore

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01:25:09,975 --> 01:25:14,455
Speaker 3: allowing development in those areas that shouldn't be permissible. The

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01:25:14,575 --> 01:25:17,495
Speaker 3: other interesting story, and it is my apologies to people

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01:25:17,535 --> 01:25:19,695
Speaker 3: outside of Auckland, a bit of an Auckland story is

1440
01:25:19,975 --> 01:25:23,815
Speaker 3: of course around Plan Change one point twenty. So this

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01:25:24,055 --> 01:25:26,895
Speaker 3: was the initial thing from Chris Bishop and the government

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01:25:26,975 --> 01:25:29,255
Speaker 3: going right, Auckland, you've got to make provision for two

1443
01:25:29,335 --> 01:25:33,055
Speaker 3: million extra houses. There's going to be a back down

1444
01:25:33,135 --> 01:25:36,375
Speaker 3: on that. My understanding is that meetings are underway and

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01:25:36,455 --> 01:25:39,775
Speaker 3: there'll be some announcement around that. It seemed a bit

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01:25:39,855 --> 01:25:42,895
Speaker 3: preposterous anyway, not saying that there might not be two

1447
01:25:42,935 --> 01:25:45,615
Speaker 3: million people in Auckland in the future, but having to

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01:25:45,695 --> 01:25:48,535
Speaker 3: prepare for it right now. We do, but we kind

1449
01:25:48,575 --> 01:25:51,815
Speaker 3: of don't anyway. It gets there'll be some changes there

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01:25:51,815 --> 01:25:54,815
Speaker 3: and we might might even go and talk to the

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01:25:54,895 --> 01:25:57,015
Speaker 3: Minister about that at some stage. But we'll keep an

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01:25:57,015 --> 01:25:59,615
Speaker 3: eye on that story as well. Oh eight hundred eighty

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01:25:59,735 --> 01:26:02,615
Speaker 3: ten eighty. Oh, now there was a I'll make a

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01:26:02,695 --> 01:26:05,935
Speaker 3: note to South a text about the Granny flats as well.

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01:26:05,975 --> 01:26:08,335
Speaker 3: I'll try and get to that in a minute too. Gary,

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01:26:08,415 --> 01:26:08,935
Speaker 3: greetings to.

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01:26:08,935 --> 01:26:11,975
Speaker 18: You, good morning, Okay, what's up.

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01:26:13,295 --> 01:26:16,415
Speaker 21: First of all, my condolences with the passing of your mother.

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01:26:20,055 --> 01:26:25,895
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. I appreciate your thoughts and for

1460
01:26:26,055 --> 01:26:27,895
Speaker 3: reaching out and saying that. Thank you.

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01:26:29,815 --> 01:26:32,375
Speaker 21: My question is, as you're probably aware of, they're now

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01:26:32,535 --> 01:26:38,775
Speaker 21: situating water heaters outside. Yes, for some strange reason which

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01:26:38,855 --> 01:26:43,255
Speaker 21: is beyond my comprehension. Anyway we could disguise it and

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01:26:43,655 --> 01:26:45,575
Speaker 21: not spend too much money on it.

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01:26:46,895 --> 01:26:49,575
Speaker 3: I think that there's a number of sort of proprietary

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01:26:49,655 --> 01:26:54,735
Speaker 3: systems you can get, like lightweight aluminium pre codd systems

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01:26:54,815 --> 01:26:58,695
Speaker 3: where it acts as a screen. The thing with sort

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01:26:58,695 --> 01:27:00,935
Speaker 3: of disguising some of these units, and it's a little

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01:27:00,935 --> 01:27:04,175
Speaker 3: bit like disguising let's say the outdoor unit for a

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01:27:04,255 --> 01:27:08,135
Speaker 3: heat pump, for example, is that you have to ensure

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01:27:08,135 --> 01:27:10,735
Speaker 3: a certain amount of airflow. So as long as whatever

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01:27:10,815 --> 01:27:16,615
Speaker 3: you do doesn't either overheat a cylinder or restrict ventilation,

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01:27:17,095 --> 01:27:21,055
Speaker 3: then yes, And there are, like I say, some powder

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01:27:21,095 --> 01:27:24,815
Speaker 3: coated aluminium systems, louvers and slattered systems that you can

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01:27:24,935 --> 01:27:25,895
Speaker 3: just bolt around them.

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01:27:26,695 --> 01:27:26,895
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:27:28,255 --> 01:27:30,775
Speaker 21: Well as for a person my laid eighty, I would

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01:27:30,815 --> 01:27:35,175
Speaker 21: even attempt to do it. But where I've asked what

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01:27:35,415 --> 01:27:38,255
Speaker 21: sort of a tradesman, where I asked to actually.

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01:27:38,015 --> 01:27:45,055
Speaker 3: A really good question Gary. This hot water system, it's

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01:27:45,135 --> 01:27:48,615
Speaker 3: a hot water cylinder that's been recently added to the exterior.

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01:27:48,935 --> 01:27:53,095
Speaker 21: Is that right now we bought displace. It's the outside

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01:27:54,295 --> 01:27:58,375
Speaker 21: where there's a place is all the same design and

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01:27:58,975 --> 01:28:02,415
Speaker 21: plan I should say, in size, and they're all the same.

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01:28:03,295 --> 01:28:05,615
Speaker 21: But I just want to try and disguise mine I

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01:28:05,775 --> 01:28:07,975
Speaker 21: to find it rather have seen. To be quite honest,

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01:28:08,095 --> 01:28:10,495
Speaker 21: I don't know what I know. They're probably trying to

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01:28:10,735 --> 01:28:15,455
Speaker 21: produce and this, you know, taking up space inside, but

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01:28:16,375 --> 01:28:21,295
Speaker 21: it seems incomprehensible to me why they did it.

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01:28:22,375 --> 01:28:24,575
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the I mean, look, you might be

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01:28:24,655 --> 01:28:27,375
Speaker 3: lucky enough to have some of these super energy efficient

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01:28:28,615 --> 01:28:31,175
Speaker 3: heat pump hot water cylinder attached to your property, in

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01:28:31,215 --> 01:28:36,375
Speaker 3: which case they are awesome and it's a huge benefit

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01:28:36,455 --> 01:28:38,255
Speaker 3: to you. It might just be a standard hot water

1495
01:28:38,295 --> 01:28:41,055
Speaker 3: cylinder that's now outside because they do take up you know,

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01:28:41,175 --> 01:28:45,095
Speaker 3: the convention ones take a bit of space inside. I

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01:28:47,175 --> 01:28:48,775
Speaker 3: mean you could try and go back to the developer

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01:28:48,775 --> 01:28:52,095
Speaker 3: and go, look, do you have a contact Otherwise, people

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Speaker 3: that do like aluminium fencing and that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: They would probably have access to them.

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01:28:59,935 --> 01:29:02,335
Speaker 21: Yeah, of course, we've got to bear in mind that,

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01:29:02,735 --> 01:29:05,815
Speaker 21: you know, the plumber at least could want to attend

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01:29:05,855 --> 01:29:08,735
Speaker 21: to it. Future They wouldn't want to impede then.

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01:29:08,575 --> 01:29:08,855
Speaker 17: Would you.

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01:29:09,495 --> 01:29:09,895
Speaker 21: That's right.

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01:29:09,975 --> 01:29:11,695
Speaker 3: But then it's something you know, if it's got some

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01:29:11,855 --> 01:29:13,775
Speaker 3: tech screws in it, that a couple of you know,

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01:29:13,895 --> 01:29:16,575
Speaker 3: screws and you can undo the panel for it maintenance access.

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01:29:16,975 --> 01:29:17,975
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense.

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01:29:18,735 --> 01:29:21,615
Speaker 19: Yeah, okay, good luck.

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01:29:21,655 --> 01:29:24,575
Speaker 3: But probably a fencing contractor who does sort of aluminium

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01:29:24,575 --> 01:29:27,215
Speaker 3: panels that sort of thing would be the guy's Edge

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01:29:27,215 --> 01:29:30,295
Speaker 3: Smith's might be a company there you go, right, Russell,

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01:29:30,415 --> 01:29:31,175
Speaker 3: good morning.

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Speaker 8: I'm just wondering what was the product you used on

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01:29:36,775 --> 01:29:38,855
Speaker 8: your spouting when you came back from Europe.

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01:29:39,215 --> 01:29:42,975
Speaker 3: Oh okay, thanks. It was actually just right at the

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01:29:43,135 --> 01:29:47,895
Speaker 3: end of an internal box cutter. It's in zincaloom. It's

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01:29:48,095 --> 01:29:51,655
Speaker 3: got some fall on it. Obviously something's moved over a

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01:29:51,735 --> 01:29:54,175
Speaker 3: period of time and there's just a little bit of

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01:29:54,255 --> 01:29:56,735
Speaker 3: a dip there, so it was holding water. I'd been

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01:29:56,775 --> 01:29:58,775
Speaker 3: on the roof a year ago, hadn't noticed it, but

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01:29:58,895 --> 01:30:03,815
Speaker 3: there it is. So I got some stuff called injuris

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01:30:04,375 --> 01:30:10,455
Speaker 3: e N d u R. There's a distributor in Auckland,

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01:30:10,935 --> 01:30:14,575
Speaker 3: and I just went up did some very you know,

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01:30:15,575 --> 01:30:18,095
Speaker 3: I'm just flown all the way from Los Angeles. You know,

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01:30:18,255 --> 01:30:20,095
Speaker 3: I didn't want to spend a lot of time up there.

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01:30:21,375 --> 01:30:24,655
Speaker 3: Did some very basic rust prep applied that and we've

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01:30:24,695 --> 01:30:28,655
Speaker 3: had some rain, no problems at all. So injuris is

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01:30:28,695 --> 01:30:29,655
Speaker 3: what you're looking for there?

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01:30:30,695 --> 01:30:34,095
Speaker 8: And do you why I brush it off?

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01:30:34,495 --> 01:30:37,335
Speaker 3: I just why brush the loose bit off the top?

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01:30:38,135 --> 01:30:41,295
Speaker 3: I think if I guess, my intention is probably at

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01:30:41,335 --> 01:30:44,655
Speaker 3: some stage maybe to actually replace the gatto. It's twenty

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01:30:44,775 --> 01:30:47,135
Speaker 3: years old. I mean, it's actually in not bad condition.

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01:30:47,255 --> 01:30:49,575
Speaker 3: And when what this does is gives me the surety

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01:30:49,655 --> 01:30:52,695
Speaker 3: that every time it rains, I don't have to worry

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01:30:52,735 --> 01:30:56,335
Speaker 3: about it leaking anymore, because it certainly solved the problem.

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01:30:57,655 --> 01:31:00,455
Speaker 16: Oh yes, I'm a very good tea, no trouble at all.

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01:31:01,935 --> 01:31:06,775
Speaker 3: Take care all the very best to you. I'll search

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01:31:06,855 --> 01:31:08,735
Speaker 3: for this other text. That was a great one, and

1542
01:31:08,775 --> 01:31:10,895
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of emails that i'll address as well.

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01:31:11,615 --> 01:31:15,375
Speaker 3: It is coming up fifteen minutes after eight here at

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01:31:15,415 --> 01:31:16,255
Speaker 3: Newstalks edb.

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01:31:16,735 --> 01:31:20,455
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was But maybe call Pete first feed

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01:31:20,575 --> 01:31:24,415
Speaker 1: Wolfgaff the resident Builder News talks EDB you.

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01:31:24,495 --> 01:31:27,935
Speaker 3: A NEWSTALKSB And actually the text that I wanted to

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01:31:27,975 --> 01:31:30,735
Speaker 3: get to is with regard to the granny flat. So

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01:31:31,375 --> 01:31:33,215
Speaker 3: I text a couple of weeks ago, says the texter.

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01:31:33,855 --> 01:31:36,495
Speaker 3: I've done some research and even spoken to council. We're

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01:31:36,535 --> 01:31:40,095
Speaker 3: in a heritage area in Auckland Council they said they

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01:31:40,135 --> 01:31:42,935
Speaker 3: don't need any consultation. The judy planner said, it's only

1553
01:31:43,015 --> 01:31:46,135
Speaker 3: the process online that needs to be followed. I letting

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01:31:46,175 --> 01:31:49,455
Speaker 3: the council know meeting their requirements like heightened relation to

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01:31:49,535 --> 01:31:52,335
Speaker 3: boundary providing a PS three. It's quite remarkable as it

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01:31:52,415 --> 01:31:54,575
Speaker 3: makes a project a third of the cost it usually

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01:31:54,615 --> 01:31:57,775
Speaker 3: would be. I'm thinking about getting a converted container from

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01:31:59,055 --> 01:32:02,335
Speaker 3: the Hawks Bay from a firm there some planting around

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01:32:02,375 --> 01:32:04,575
Speaker 3: it to keep it, to keep it in keeping with

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01:32:04,695 --> 01:32:07,855
Speaker 3: the surroundings. It will be interesting to see how that

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01:32:08,055 --> 01:32:12,815
Speaker 3: goes once you actually hit the legislation and the compliance

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01:32:13,055 --> 01:32:15,415
Speaker 3: and so on. But hey, look that's the intent of

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01:32:15,495 --> 01:32:16,095
Speaker 3: the legislation.

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Speaker 8: And just on the.

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01:32:19,135 --> 01:32:24,015
Speaker 3: Gary's comments, they're about, you know, wanting to hide essential

1566
01:32:24,055 --> 01:32:28,135
Speaker 3: appliance is like an external hot water cylinder. Some of

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01:32:28,215 --> 01:32:32,455
Speaker 3: this text through Hide it now hide it do covers

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01:32:32,575 --> 01:32:36,575
Speaker 3: for heat pump units. Possibly they'll do an extended version

1569
01:32:36,735 --> 01:32:39,335
Speaker 3: for hot water cylinder or something similar. But you know,

1570
01:32:39,375 --> 01:32:41,095
Speaker 3: it's one of those things. This is the beauty of

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01:32:41,535 --> 01:32:47,295
Speaker 3: commerce and capitalism. I guess a problem typically requires a solution.

1572
01:32:47,495 --> 01:32:50,015
Speaker 3: Solution becomes a business opportunity, and that's what people have done,

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01:32:50,055 --> 01:32:52,935
Speaker 3: which is awesome. Thank you very much for those texts

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01:32:52,935 --> 01:32:54,975
Speaker 3: that have come through. Rod. Greetings to you.

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01:32:55,855 --> 01:33:01,175
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, good morning. I have a man shed and

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01:33:01,935 --> 01:33:09,535
Speaker 19: it's a beautiful shed. It's a still frame, and but

1577
01:33:10,095 --> 01:33:15,055
Speaker 19: it's getting so hot. Yes, have you got any recommendations

1578
01:33:15,215 --> 01:33:17,655
Speaker 19: to sort of get the temperature down like a roof

1579
01:33:17,775 --> 01:33:22,055
Speaker 19: vent or. I can't put any any extra windows or

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01:33:22,095 --> 01:33:24,815
Speaker 19: anything on it because I've got the walls with shelves.

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01:33:26,495 --> 01:33:31,055
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm only laughing because your shed and my workshop

1582
01:33:31,815 --> 01:33:36,135
Speaker 3: sound identical, right, And I did some work on mine.

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01:33:36,855 --> 01:33:39,495
Speaker 3: It used to have an overhang and that was all open, right,

1584
01:33:39,575 --> 01:33:43,215
Speaker 3: and so that provided ventilation. And last year I thought, right,

1585
01:33:43,295 --> 01:33:45,535
Speaker 3: I'm going to hang some facier, I'm going to put

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01:33:45,575 --> 01:33:47,495
Speaker 3: some saffitita in there, I'm going to put some spouting

1587
01:33:47,535 --> 01:33:50,295
Speaker 3: on it. For the first time. But now I've got

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01:33:50,375 --> 01:33:53,975
Speaker 3: no ventilation because I don't open the door because I've

1589
01:33:53,975 --> 01:33:55,935
Speaker 3: got shelves in front of that. I closed off the

1590
01:33:55,975 --> 01:33:57,855
Speaker 3: access of the back because i've got shells in front

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01:33:57,855 --> 01:34:00,335
Speaker 3: of that. I've got one side door. It is as

1592
01:34:00,455 --> 01:34:05,335
Speaker 3: hot as hades in there. So I'm like, you say,

1593
01:34:05,415 --> 01:34:08,095
Speaker 3: you can't put window. I think a roof fence is

1594
01:34:08,175 --> 01:34:10,695
Speaker 3: probably your best option, right, So one of those sort

1595
01:34:10,695 --> 01:34:14,975
Speaker 3: of twirly riches caps type thing to just allow air

1596
01:34:15,015 --> 01:34:16,815
Speaker 3: to draw out. I've got a little fan that I

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01:34:16,895 --> 01:34:18,575
Speaker 3: put in there to get a bit of ventilation, but

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01:34:18,655 --> 01:34:21,375
Speaker 3: I'm not getting air in so I reckon a roof

1599
01:34:21,455 --> 01:34:24,575
Speaker 3: fence is probably quite a good solution for you. But

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01:34:24,655 --> 01:34:27,415
Speaker 3: I quite literally feel your pain. I know exactly what

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01:34:27,535 --> 01:34:30,175
Speaker 3: you mean. Roof finger, by the way, but I have

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01:34:30,295 --> 01:34:33,815
Speaker 3: this picture of Rod's shed looking exactly like my workshop,

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01:34:33,855 --> 01:34:37,815
Speaker 3: which is every single wall surface is covered in either

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01:34:38,455 --> 01:34:43,335
Speaker 3: shelves or hanging storage or whatever. But it's full. There

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01:34:43,375 --> 01:34:48,575
Speaker 3: ain't no space for windows. Biggest shed I think might

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01:34:48,615 --> 01:34:51,255
Speaker 3: be the answer for me, right Norm Greetings.

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01:34:52,015 --> 01:34:52,615
Speaker 18: Hello Peter.

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01:34:53,455 --> 01:34:54,455
Speaker 9: Just a bit and so on.

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01:34:54,615 --> 01:34:58,815
Speaker 10: Some unconsented kind of work I've got where I live.

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01:35:00,775 --> 01:35:02,535
Speaker 10: I've owned a place. Well, it's about one hundred and

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01:35:02,535 --> 01:35:06,255
Speaker 10: twenty five years old, but it's starting to show itself

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01:35:06,335 --> 01:35:10,095
Speaker 10: age and rusty, you know, untreated, galvanized nails and kind

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01:35:10,095 --> 01:35:12,015
Speaker 10: of were the boards and bits and pieces are falling

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01:35:12,055 --> 01:35:16,895
Speaker 10: off her, you know, with disrusting. Yes, sitting up at

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01:35:16,935 --> 01:35:21,055
Speaker 10: about about one point two meters sitting up on some

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01:35:21,255 --> 01:35:26,175
Speaker 10: old Belgium tram rails. Wow, and yeah, well I've been

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01:35:26,215 --> 01:35:29,895
Speaker 10: here about forty years and due to certain things mental illness,

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01:35:30,495 --> 01:35:34,735
Speaker 10: lack of money, I just keep patching, you know, as

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01:35:34,855 --> 01:35:37,535
Speaker 10: bits go underneath, I just keep patching them up, and

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01:35:37,775 --> 01:35:40,775
Speaker 10: you know, illegally obviously, And.

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01:35:43,535 --> 01:35:47,455
Speaker 3: Well, you know, can I just addrest that in the

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01:35:47,535 --> 01:35:50,175
Speaker 3: sense that, you know, when we talk about unconsented work,

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01:35:50,615 --> 01:35:54,135
Speaker 3: that's work that needed a consent at a time when

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01:35:54,255 --> 01:35:57,855
Speaker 3: consents could be issued. If you're talking about one hundred

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01:35:57,855 --> 01:36:01,335
Speaker 3: and twenty year old building, pretty much beat your bottom

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01:36:01,375 --> 01:36:03,335
Speaker 3: dollar that they didn't go and get a building consent

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01:36:03,455 --> 01:36:06,695
Speaker 3: for that, right, So you can't have unconsent at work

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01:36:06,815 --> 01:36:09,255
Speaker 3: if there was never a consent that should have been issued.

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01:36:10,615 --> 01:36:17,135
Speaker 3: Right now, that doesn't mean that work that you undertake

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01:36:18,935 --> 01:36:21,695
Speaker 3: doesn't need to comply with the building code today. That's

1631
01:36:21,775 --> 01:36:26,335
Speaker 3: a that's a requirement. But you know, I wouldn't go

1632
01:36:26,495 --> 01:36:29,095
Speaker 3: around beating myself up about doing work on a property

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01:36:29,135 --> 01:36:30,935
Speaker 3: that never had a building consent and feeling that it's

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01:36:31,055 --> 01:36:31,895
Speaker 3: unconsented work.

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01:36:32,095 --> 01:36:38,535
Speaker 10: So yeah, since then, I've done a few modifications without permission,

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01:36:39,255 --> 01:36:39,895
Speaker 10: taken a bit.

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01:36:39,815 --> 01:36:40,255
Speaker 16: Of a wall.

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01:36:41,335 --> 01:36:44,095
Speaker 3: So everything that I just said, just throw that out because.

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01:36:46,655 --> 01:36:48,855
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know you're not there

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01:36:48,895 --> 01:36:50,975
Speaker 10: to give legal advice one way or the other. The

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01:36:51,095 --> 01:36:56,895
Speaker 10: point is, you know, it's about seven weeks in the roof.

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01:36:56,815 --> 01:37:00,375
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, that's repairs and maintenance, which you probably

1643
01:37:00,455 --> 01:37:01,135
Speaker 3: need to get onto.

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01:37:02,335 --> 01:37:05,015
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I'm thinking, you know, I don't want to

1645
01:37:05,375 --> 01:37:08,455
Speaker 10: do the roof the forty forty five grand and then

1646
01:37:08,655 --> 01:37:12,255
Speaker 10: get a demolition order from them, you know what I mean, because.

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01:37:12,695 --> 01:37:15,215
Speaker 3: It's unlikely that everyone's going to come along and give

1648
01:37:15,255 --> 01:37:17,495
Speaker 3: you a demolition order. I think you've really got to

1649
01:37:17,495 --> 01:37:19,215
Speaker 3: get off side with the council before they get to

1650
01:37:19,335 --> 01:37:19,815
Speaker 3: that stage.

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01:37:19,895 --> 01:37:23,415
Speaker 10: So well, I've got no shower.

1652
01:37:23,935 --> 01:37:25,895
Speaker 3: You're saying that you are getting off side with counsel.

1653
01:37:26,295 --> 01:37:28,215
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where this is heating, norm I'm not

1654
01:37:28,255 --> 01:37:31,375
Speaker 3: sure where this is heading. But and I'm under the

1655
01:37:31,415 --> 01:37:35,015
Speaker 3: pump so let's let's pick this up again some other time.

1656
01:37:35,055 --> 01:37:37,455
Speaker 3: I want to get onto red in just a moment, Nick,

1657
01:37:37,615 --> 01:37:39,895
Speaker 3: great things very quickly. What's up.

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01:37:41,295 --> 01:37:44,735
Speaker 22: I've just built a floating deck in the corner, and

1659
01:37:45,055 --> 01:37:47,895
Speaker 22: I've got to do a whole bunch of leveling. I've

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01:37:47,975 --> 01:37:49,975
Speaker 22: leveled off the main deck of the house, which is

1661
01:37:50,015 --> 01:37:52,295
Speaker 22: all good, but I've got to do some excavation work.

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01:37:52,295 --> 01:37:55,575
Speaker 22: And I'm just wondering about the side pieces for the deck,

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01:37:55,695 --> 01:37:59,415
Speaker 22: the side facings. Yes, whether I should hold off putting

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01:37:59,455 --> 01:38:03,175
Speaker 22: those on until I've finished all the excavation.

1665
01:38:03,935 --> 01:38:06,895
Speaker 3: Well, in terms of to ensure that they don't get damaged.

1666
01:38:07,015 --> 01:38:11,215
Speaker 3: Are you're going to excavate with a digger, Well, if I.

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01:38:11,215 --> 01:38:13,055
Speaker 22: Can get one in, but otherwise it's going to be

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01:38:13,135 --> 01:38:13,815
Speaker 22: mostly by hand.

1669
01:38:13,895 --> 01:38:17,975
Speaker 3: But a hand digging, Yeah, if it's about access, then yes,

1670
01:38:18,095 --> 01:38:21,175
Speaker 3: leaves them off for as long as possible. Do you

1671
01:38:21,295 --> 01:38:23,375
Speaker 3: need to lower the ground level in order.

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01:38:23,295 --> 01:38:27,175
Speaker 22: To do the deck, No, I've already done that part.

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01:38:27,375 --> 01:38:30,615
Speaker 22: It's like the rest of the area, and I don't

1674
01:38:30,695 --> 01:38:34,215
Speaker 22: know exactly where the grass level is going to finish

1675
01:38:34,415 --> 01:38:34,895
Speaker 22: quite yet.

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01:38:35,135 --> 01:38:37,895
Speaker 3: And in terms of having the grass abutting, is the

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01:38:37,975 --> 01:38:39,815
Speaker 3: grass going to come up and abt the deck, So

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01:38:39,895 --> 01:38:41,975
Speaker 3: you'd want to make sure that you've got a little

1679
01:38:41,975 --> 01:38:44,815
Speaker 3: bit of a gap between you're framing and maybe a

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01:38:44,935 --> 01:38:48,575
Speaker 3: retaining wall, just so that there's you're not sucking moisture

1681
01:38:48,655 --> 01:38:50,335
Speaker 3: into the framing of the deck.

1682
01:38:51,295 --> 01:38:53,255
Speaker 22: Yeah, and that was my I suppose my final question

1683
01:38:53,455 --> 01:38:56,615
Speaker 22: was the best to have the facing board finish, say

1684
01:38:56,975 --> 01:38:58,095
Speaker 22: an inch or two above?

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01:38:58,415 --> 01:39:02,015
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, great, yeah, and I would just you know,

1686
01:39:02,175 --> 01:39:05,455
Speaker 3: you could use like a bit of tantalized retaining timber,

1687
01:39:05,535 --> 01:39:08,375
Speaker 3: so so h four timber, and if you want it

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01:39:08,415 --> 01:39:11,095
Speaker 3: to sort of disappear, just paint it black and then

1689
01:39:11,175 --> 01:39:14,255
Speaker 3: bring your grass or your landscaping up to their leave

1690
01:39:14,295 --> 01:39:16,855
Speaker 3: a gap of at least twenty mil and then have

1691
01:39:17,015 --> 01:39:20,175
Speaker 3: your decking boards finished there. Because the other thing is

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01:39:20,255 --> 01:39:22,495
Speaker 3: that you know, if it is going to be grass

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01:39:22,535 --> 01:39:25,615
Speaker 3: and you're using a line trimmer, you want the line

1694
01:39:25,655 --> 01:39:28,615
Speaker 3: trimmer to hit your retaining boards rather than hitting your timbers.

1695
01:39:28,695 --> 01:39:32,055
Speaker 3: It's those sorts of long term maintenance issues that you

1696
01:39:32,095 --> 01:39:32,655
Speaker 3: want to deal with.

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01:39:33,655 --> 01:39:35,375
Speaker 8: Wonderful, thanks, better lovely to chat.

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01:39:35,815 --> 01:39:39,055
Speaker 3: You take care of all the best thing by by then. Right, Oh,

1699
01:39:39,095 --> 01:39:41,215
Speaker 3: that wraps up the building part of the show. We're

1700
01:39:41,255 --> 01:39:43,375
Speaker 3: on time today. Which is a little bit unusual for me.

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01:39:44,375 --> 01:39:46,695
Speaker 3: Coming up twenty seven minutes after eight. We'll take the

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01:39:46,775 --> 01:39:49,655
Speaker 3: break and we'll talk to Red Climb past in just a.

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01:39:49,695 --> 01:39:53,855
Speaker 1: Moment doing other house sorting the garden asks Pete for

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01:39:53,935 --> 01:39:57,335
Speaker 1: a hand. The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Call OH

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01:39:57,375 --> 01:40:01,055
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01:40:01,135 --> 01:40:04,135
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Speaker 1: Newstalgs EDB on Sunday mornings from st or Follow the

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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.