1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: So the letter from the energy industry yesterday got less 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: coverage than the call last week for a bipartisan approach 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: to begin for structure. So I'm not sure what that means. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Did the media not notice the letter, or did they 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: notice the letter and not think promoting a bipartisan approach 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: was useful, or had we given up basically, given last 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: week's call fell apart. Basically, the moment got uttered publicly. 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: I mean, last week's call was a thirty year plan 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and new agency and the first thing that happened was 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Chris Hipkins poo pooed it, citing the treatment they got 11 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: on light rail and cycle bridges. Anyway, I think at 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: least part of the lesson is that it's easy to 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: call for a bipartisan approach, which is what the energy 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: users are asking for, and indeed offering a few starters 15 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: for ten which is what they do in their letter. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: That's not a bad idea either. It's the next bit 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: where things fall apart. Is it possible we've become too 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: divided a country. I mean, we cite America and it's 19 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: blocked and broken system as the premier example of a 20 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: country being unable to get anything done. But are we 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: any different? Think about it last week infrastructure, this week energy, 22 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and what's the outcome? Infrastructure A party that canceled roads 23 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and build cycle ways and bylanes, the other party who 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: canceled the bike lanes and built the roads. A party 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: that liked to pay for project through debt versus a 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: party that likes PPPs and congestion charging the energy crisis. 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: One party that thought a sixteen billion dollar lake was 28 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: the answer, another that thinks gas should be looked for 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and coal should be burned. The question, which is where 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: a new agency or more cohesive approach would come in, 31 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: is where's the middle ground? Where's the commonality? Trouble with 32 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: this country, like America, is we come at it from 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: not only two different sides, but with a very very 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: large gap to close and a long held belief that 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: we are right and the other guys are out to lunch. 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: But unlike America, where you find moderate versions of Democrats 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: and Republicans in both parties, here you're not allowed to 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: think outside your parties mandates, far less actually vote against them. 39 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: So the conclusion would appear the train shall never meet 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: because we are black and white, and the answer isn't 41 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast. Listen live to 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio