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Speaker 2: Hello all your great New Zealanders and welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast. Great show today, Tyler, we

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Speaker 2: found out what the what the quintessential salt of the Earth,

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Speaker 2: New Zealander is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of discussion about where the Christopher lux

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Speaker 3: In our Prime Minister is in touch with the common man.

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Speaker 3: I think the consensus was he's probably is in touch

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Speaker 3: for the most part, maybe not to the same level

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Speaker 3: with Sue john Key.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, according to the z B listeners, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: be with Luxon though, Yeah, yeah, well you'd like to

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Speaker 2: ever be with Luxeon? Yeah, he won't ever be with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, because he doesn't drink.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't drink. Yeah, I don't think he's ever drunk.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever had a drink. We're this

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Speaker 2: interesting situation recently when we had Luxon and Leehart together

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Speaker 2: to see if they're the same person because seen them

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Speaker 2: no one had ever seen them in the same room together.

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Speaker 2: Turns out that they they are different people. One of

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Speaker 2: them had a lot of beers and the other one hadn't.

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Speaker 2: That's a good way to tell them apart very much.

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Speaker 3: So, so what was the common man? In the end

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Speaker 3: did we decide who?

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Speaker 2: We decided that the common man was Dame Lisa Carrington.

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Speaker 3: Great, great, just a spoiler alert for the pot.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where we decided that the ultimate common

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Speaker 2: common soult of the earth kiwi that we all aspire

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Speaker 2: to be is Dame Lisa Carrington or Willy upiad.

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Speaker 3: And we can all get behind that message. That was

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Speaker 3: a spicy chat. Another chat that went quite deep was

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Speaker 3: the idea of heartbreak leave that introducing it in the

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Speaker 3: Philippines where when you have quite a nasty breakup you

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Speaker 3: can go to your boss and say, hey, I'm feeling

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Speaker 3: pretty rough my life's and bits because I've just split

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Speaker 3: up with my girlfriend or wife or husband. I need

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Speaker 2: Controversial certainly was fired up the phone calls. Some people

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Speaker 2: said hard enough and go and everyone's becoming soft. Other

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Speaker 2: people said, you guys are being marcho because I said, look,

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Speaker 2: the best thing you can do when you going through

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Speaker 2: And those rails and life are things that you can positive.

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Speaker 2: Thank god, I said over and over again the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wait to listen to it. But it's like going to

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Speaker 2: work is a rail you can hold onto your life

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Speaker 2: so you can move forward and reach out to your

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Speaker 2: friends and your buddies. But go to work, which.

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Speaker 3: Is a great trade. But interesting that you got challenged

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Speaker 3: on that by a few callers, female callers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the female callers came for me, which is great.

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Speaker 2: Love the female callers.

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Speaker 3: Great debate, and finally love this chat the gym Meticut.

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Speaker 3: This is on the back of you spashing it out

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Speaker 3: at the gym at the moment, but we all know

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Speaker 3: that bad behavior and the list that you created at

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Speaker 3: the end. We actually got a lot of text from

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Speaker 3: Jim Oas saying we need that list now because we're

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Speaker 2: That'sult You won't find that out for a full one

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Speaker 3: You can fast forward, apparently, but no, no, no, you

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Speaker 2: All of it is amazing. All it is not even

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Speaker 3: So that you go, or just just to give you

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Speaker 3: The seagullers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the seagullers. That's groups of people that stand around.

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Speaker 2: Five mates go to the gym together and they seagull

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Speaker 2: not a social place. It is a social place. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: So I'd say that's great to talk and chat all

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Speaker 2: You're there to get it done. You're there to get jacked,

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Speaker 3: Didn't you say that on the show? I mean that

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Speaker 3: was beautiful, mate, say that on the extra radio show

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Speaker 2: I was from yesterday. I was going to try and

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Speaker 2: remember that what the French expression is, which is stairway wit,

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Speaker 2: which is when you remember you finally work out what

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Speaker 2: what that saying is for tomorrow's but this is what

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Speaker 3: Here, and we ended up talking about noud to a

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Speaker 3: lot more than I expected today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I came out in favorite. You were anti it,

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Speaker 2: So there we go. All right, Okay, here's another edition

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Speaker 2: of the Matt and Tyler Afternoons pod.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk Sebby.

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome into the show. Matt and

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Speaker 3: Tyler with you until four pm.

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Speaker 2: Maddie get a Yeah, huge day in my household? Certainly

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Speaker 2: is my son is buying me a beer tonight. My

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Speaker 2: a beer. He's eighteen today, one eight. Can I just

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Speaker 2: say to anyone that's got young kids, it goes so

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Speaker 2: incredibly fast. I know it's a cliche, but I'm just

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Speaker 2: I'm tearing up today looking at pictures when he was

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Speaker 2: just little me. At one point he could sit in

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Speaker 3: Mate. That's a beautiful moment, isn't it. Eighteen and buying

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Speaker 3: his first beer for you? What's he going for? What brand?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. He's a big fan of get gammis. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's is a little bit of stuff around there. He's

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Speaker 2: I've seen that situation where you can you can buy

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Speaker 2: it's a big moment and it's just the swagger and

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Speaker 2: It's just the way you walk up to the bar

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Speaker 2: when you when you're when you're completely and utterly legit,

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Speaker 2: to be a big, big moment.

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Speaker 3: Or Charlie's a strapping lad, isn't he six point two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's up there. Yeah he's pretty buff. He's a big,

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Speaker 2: big guy. But yeah, boy, it goes so incredibly fast,

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Speaker 2: and as much as you're proud and the joy and

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Speaker 2: those all the different moments in the life and you

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Speaker 3: Again, beautifully said mate, And enjoy it tonight. That's going

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Speaker 3: to be good. Right on to the show. After three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about Jim etiquette.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I'm going to the gym again because

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Speaker 2: you know. But there's some terrible geomatic etiquette going on,

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Speaker 2: the amount of time people crowding around machines and each

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a great chat. That's after

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Speaker 3: three o'clock. After two o'clock, we want to talk about

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Speaker 3: a bill that's been introduced in the Philippines. They are

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Speaker 3: calling it Heartbreak Leave, so it's in recognition of the

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Speaker 3: It's getting a lot of traction online, and I've got

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Speaker 3: idea for other countries to look at something like heartbreak

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Speaker 2: No one would question bereavement leave. Yeah, I mean fair enough,

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Speaker 2: heartbreak leave. I mean my thoughts on this and I'll

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Speaker 2: the things that you can do move forward. Your job

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Speaker 2: is something you can do that's positive. You keep your dignity,

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Speaker 2: you've got a future and you build it. Sitting at

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Speaker 2: for yourself. And as if you're an employer, you might go, well,

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Speaker 2: or do I want someone just moping around the office.

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Speaker 2: I say get back on the wagon straight away, no

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Speaker 3: news Verian poet showed just over half of people think

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister Christopher Luckxon has lost touch with voters.

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Speaker 3: The poll of one thousand people found fifty one percent

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Speaker 3: preferred not to say not. Surprisingly, Green Party supporters were

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Speaker 2: So as the Green Party supporters really answering the question

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Speaker 3: Luxon went on to reject the idea that he's lost

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Speaker 3: a quote from him. I understand New Zealanders are doing

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Speaker 3: it incredibly tough at the moment, and I'm working hard

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Speaker 3: to make sure I deliver results for them. But what

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Speaker 3: to be in touch with the common man?

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Speaker 2: Surely we want our leaders to have been successful at

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Speaker 2: some point. Yeah, as being wealthy a bad thing? Or

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Speaker 2: is it? Surely it's a good thing to have success

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Speaker 2: scessful people. And look, I know a lot of people

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Speaker 2: are out of touch. They have no cash because they

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Speaker 2: spend their entire time in social media bubbles. So out

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Speaker 2: of touch isn't necessarily a factor of wealth? Yeah? Can

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Speaker 2: wealthy p be in touch? Is this just tall poppy

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Speaker 2: or does it mean something else all together? I mean

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a strange question to ask, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: How do you know?

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Speaker 2: It's a very pointed question, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: And how do you define what is in touch with

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Speaker 3: the common man? Who is the common man? But for you,

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Speaker 3: if we focus on Christopher lux And as our prime minister,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that in touch? It's pretty in touch

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a good chat. I eight

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Speaker 3: Keen to hear from you? Is our prime minister? In touch?

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it. It is thirteen past one.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon? I eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 7: Bloody good, Tyler?

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Speaker 8: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: Very good? You reckon Luxon is out of touch?

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Speaker 7: Hey, he is in.

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Speaker 10: Certain cases. But well, I think it's probably a I

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Speaker 3: Hun So yeah, you wouldn't say John Key was pretty

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Speaker 2: Well, Christoph Luxon won't have a beer with you because

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what does it mean, Karen? What do

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Speaker 10: Well, in the English's case, I remember the first thing

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Speaker 9: He was so in touch.

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Speaker 2: But there's no doubt that Bill English was. He was

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. Prime ministers should be role models

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there hasn't been a prime minister in the

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Speaker 2: I guess you're comparing sort of career politicians over people

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Speaker 3: I think politicians have a harder time now by trying

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Speaker 3: when you try and compare Christopher Luxon to John Key,

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Speaker 3: I do think Christopher Luckxon has to think he is.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 11: The interventionism of the Supreme Court New Zealand Initiative chair

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Speaker 11: and senior fellow Roger Partridge is well, I'm glad somebody's

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Speaker 12: It's more the current judges. We've always had activist judges

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Speaker 3: Twenty three past one. Matthew Good afternoon.

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Speaker 14: Good Ay, Tyler good O. Maddie, how are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm pretty good? Pretty good. Firstly, you guys are out

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Speaker 3: Well, well Maddy, Maddy brought it back when he got

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Speaker 3: You know that that was that's in touch.

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Speaker 14: That was gold. That was absolute gold.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, if what's.

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Speaker 2: More in touch in spilling months and months and cheese

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Speaker 14: But sticking of luxon? He hasn't been in touch? I mean, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well it's interesting one if you bring up Trump, he's

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Speaker 14: And but I think he empathizes with the current plight

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Speaker 14: But you know, but you never see a politician that's

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Speaker 14: They've all come from you know, from somewhere and gone

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Speaker 2: Theah, well, well, I mean there's no doubt that Christoph

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what was it? Was it meyor Wayne Brown

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Speaker 15: Look?

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Speaker 9: I think this is just a total beat up by

437
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Speaker 9: one News. They love posting the borax at Luxeon and

438
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Speaker 9: particularly their political journalists. And I think the who are

439
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Speaker 9: out of touch with people is in fact TV one

440
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Speaker 9: and they would likely go the same way as TV

441
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Speaker 9: three if they don't make changes. If you look at Desinda,

442
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Speaker 9: if we're talking about wealth, so there's a real double

443
00:20:40,053 --> 00:20:43,173
Speaker 9: standard there because she also sold her house after two

444
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Speaker 9: years for a very nice capital gain. I think it

445
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Speaker 9: was three hundred thousand dollars and that really doesn't get

446
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Speaker 9: much of a mention. And also I think, you know,

447
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Speaker 9: for the labor in Greens to comment about people being

448
00:20:59,653 --> 00:21:03,653
Speaker 9: out of touch, well sad to say they were totally

449
00:21:03,693 --> 00:21:06,293
Speaker 9: out of touch by the time of the last election

450
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Speaker 9: and that's the result they got. You know, the things

451
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Speaker 9: they did in the lead up to the election, and

452
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Speaker 9: you remember ut Texas and you know, all these sort

453
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Speaker 9: of things which actually impacted comin folk were disastrous. So

454
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Speaker 9: you know, lux and for me, I'm sure he doesn't

455
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Speaker 9: get everything right. But I just love his energy and enthusiasm.

456
00:21:32,213 --> 00:21:36,453
Speaker 9: My god, I get tired just looking at his travel program,

457
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Speaker 9: you know, and that's what we need. And you know,

458
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Speaker 9: they are focusing on what people think is important, so economy, crime, health,

459
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Speaker 9: that sort of thing, the other stuff. And I noticed

460
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Speaker 9: in a recent sort of hole that things like climate

461
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Speaker 9: and climate change were way down the list. So they're

462
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Speaker 9: focusing on things that are important to people. So yeah,

463
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Speaker 9: my view is that it's just a total beat up,

464
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Speaker 9: you know, clip of TV trying to make themselves relevant.

465
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Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt about that that the Pole is

466
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Speaker 2: not done for the good of the nation. That the

467
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Speaker 2: Pole has done. The one news variant Pole is done

468
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Speaker 2: to have headlines and have content and obviously lead to

469
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Speaker 2: lead to ratings. So you don't ask the question, you know,

470
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Speaker 2: is Christopher Luxe and touch you know, just just because

471
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Speaker 2: just out of the goodness of your heart, because you

472
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Speaker 2: think it's something that the nation needs to needs to

473
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Speaker 2: needs to know. But also it is I mean, in politics,

474
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Speaker 2: it's not just about what's true and what's fair. It's

475
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Speaker 2: about Unfortunately, it'd be good if it was just straight

476
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Speaker 2: down the line facts and people made decisions on what

477
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Speaker 2: was true and what wasn't. But it comes down to

478
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Speaker 2: this horrible word that really weird optics. Yeah, I hate

479
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Speaker 2: when people say the optics are bad. Let's not talk

480
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Speaker 2: about the optics. Let's talk about the actual reality of

481
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Speaker 2: the situation. But that's not the way politics work. People

482
00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:06,813
Speaker 2: are busy, they're they're they're they're struggling in their life,

483
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Speaker 2: So the optics of a politician is so important.

484
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Speaker 3: And that's not the way humans work. We all make

485
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Speaker 3: judgments about people, whether we we think we do or not.

486
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Speaker 3: You know, that's the whole thing. First impressions count, They

487
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Speaker 3: absolutely do. It's just human nature. Unfortunate thing for politicians

488
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Speaker 3: and people like Christopher Luxen is when you've got a

489
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Speaker 3: six second sound bite to try and present your arguments,

490
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Speaker 3: you're not going to get a fair run. And I

491
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Speaker 3: don't think he has had a fair run. I don't

492
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Speaker 3: think a lot of politicians get a fair run. But

493
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Speaker 3: that's what we say. What do you say, Oh, e

494
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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

495
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Speaker 3: It is half past one.

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Speaker 13: Jus talk said.

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Speaker 16: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

498
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Speaker 16: a blue bubble New Zealand's war on inflation is technically over,

499
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Speaker 16: with the annual rate on two point two percent, well

500
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Speaker 16: within the Reserve Bank's target band. It means interest rates

501
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Speaker 16: could fall and the unemployment rates settle in the next year,

502
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Speaker 16: but households will still be doing it tough. Wellington's mayor

503
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Speaker 16: is Adamant. Her counsel is not a shambles and says

504
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Speaker 16: they're focused on delivering a successful long term plan that

505
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Speaker 16: addresses its insurance issue. A delegate of the Police Association

506
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Speaker 16: Conference has told the Minister moving officers into central Auckland

507
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Speaker 16: left other parts of the city vulnerable to crime. Mark

508
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Speaker 16: Mitchell says police resources are always moved around to where

509
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Speaker 16: they're needed. The South Island State Highway sixty five is

510
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Speaker 16: closed between Springs Junction and the Bull of Gorge after

511
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Speaker 16: a truck's trailer has overturned in a crash. It's unclear

512
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Speaker 16: when the road will open. Motorists should use detours. Richard

513
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Speaker 16: Prebble on how Labour could win the next election. See

514
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Speaker 16: his full column at ends at Herald Premium. Back to

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Speaker 16: matte Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylen. It is twenty six to two.

517
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show term luxen out of touch? Does

518
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Speaker 2: it matter?

519
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Speaker 17: Give be an example of a New Zealander who is

520
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Speaker 17: so in touch with every New Zealander right down to

521
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Speaker 17: the bottom of the fifth that he four foot of

522
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Speaker 17: the golden years of the strayer, four million dollars a

523
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Speaker 17: year returned to his country to a trainery and solely

524
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Speaker 17: devoted himselves on a fraction of that for every New

525
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Speaker 17: Zella's benefit, to turn this absolute pig style and to

526
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Speaker 17: get it up and going from seven percent to two

527
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Speaker 17: point two percent inflation.

528
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Speaker 9: Where were wrecked.

529
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Speaker 17: He could have lived the life of absolute riley from

530
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Speaker 17: afar and four million dollars for good he ever came

531
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Speaker 17: from here, he chose to return home and grind out.

532
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Speaker 17: And one of the most unfaithful clasks to ever have

533
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Speaker 17: to have critical little rats like Bikey seven seaming the floor.

534
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Speaker 9: Up bitching about him.

535
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Speaker 17: When you've got a bunch of socially funded bloody losers

536
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Speaker 17: running around shoplifting, drinking boost spinning out the vehicles and

537
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Speaker 17: all on the state and making a fortune on the

538
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Speaker 17: run the country into the ground of over spending. And

539
00:26:02,933 --> 00:26:06,493
Speaker 17: they grew us by sixteen billion dollars of public spending

540
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Speaker 17: for nothing and ruined the place.

541
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Speaker 2: That's interesting because because tell us what you really think

542
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Speaker 2: to him?

543
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Speaker 3: But it was good.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the thing is like are we talking? That's

545
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Speaker 2: why this is such a great question in terms of

546
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Speaker 2: conversation that they've thrown out there, and the very reason

547
00:26:20,733 --> 00:26:23,093
Speaker 2: why they've asked this question and this very very unpopul

548
00:26:23,133 --> 00:26:26,133
Speaker 2: because it's an undefinable thing. And you know when we

549
00:26:26,173 --> 00:26:28,933
Speaker 2: say before that Green Party supporters were most likely to

550
00:26:28,933 --> 00:26:31,853
Speaker 2: say the Prime Minister had lost touch at eighty eight percent.

551
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Speaker 2: That's because it's long critical lines. But if you take

552
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Speaker 2: politics out of the situation, really are we talking about character?

553
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Speaker 2: Is that what we're saying, or some people will define

554
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:45,453
Speaker 2: it as you're just rich and so you're not experiencing

555
00:26:45,453 --> 00:26:48,933
Speaker 2: what the common man is experiencing. Because if you take

556
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Speaker 2: politics out of it completely, and I would say that

557
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Speaker 2: the politician that I've met in my life that was

558
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Speaker 2: the most in touch and the most soul of the

559
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Speaker 2: earth was David Shearer. Yep, he's a fantastic guy, but

560
00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:05,293
Speaker 2: he was disliked for other reasons because he was seen

561
00:27:05,413 --> 00:27:08,333
Speaker 2: to be politically optically.

562
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Speaker 3: Not He wasn't good with the SoundBite either, was he

563
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Speaker 3: but there's a fair question, Tim. I mean when you

564
00:27:12,613 --> 00:27:15,653
Speaker 3: look at Akay been in touch with the average New Zealander,

565
00:27:15,693 --> 00:27:17,373
Speaker 3: what is the average New Zealander these days?

566
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Speaker 7: To you?

567
00:27:19,253 --> 00:27:22,813
Speaker 17: Well, I mean the average is struggling and having a

568
00:27:22,813 --> 00:27:25,453
Speaker 17: pretty tough time at it and an economy that was

569
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Speaker 17: out of control. And he's have voted his time and

570
00:27:28,093 --> 00:27:30,973
Speaker 17: his team saying we are going to be everywhere it

571
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Speaker 17: takes to help bring us under control so that quality

572
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Speaker 17: of life can return. I don't think you could do

573
00:27:36,213 --> 00:27:39,693
Speaker 17: anything more or a better for the economy than what

574
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Speaker 17: he's done is say we're going to try and help

575
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Speaker 17: you guys back on a footing so when you go

576
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Speaker 17: to work and do your forty hours that you actually

577
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Speaker 17: might be able to live a good life.

578
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Tim, Yeah, I mean you're talking about sacrifice,

579
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Speaker 2: So sacrificing potential four million dollars a year jobs to

580
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Speaker 2: come and do what he believes is the right thing

581
00:28:02,053 --> 00:28:05,493
Speaker 2: to get the country back on track. Maybe you can

582
00:28:05,573 --> 00:28:07,173
Speaker 2: be out of touch and do that. Maybe you don't

583
00:28:07,173 --> 00:28:10,893
Speaker 2: know everything about every part of someone's life that is struggling,

584
00:28:11,213 --> 00:28:14,613
Speaker 2: but you can have empathy from your ivory tower as

585
00:28:14,613 --> 00:28:15,013
Speaker 2: you do it.

586
00:28:15,213 --> 00:28:17,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, But empathy is a big thing. I mean, just

587
00:28:17,653 --> 00:28:21,173
Speaker 3: looking at who would be in touch with a common

588
00:28:21,173 --> 00:28:23,293
Speaker 3: man in New Zealand, those characters that we think are

589
00:28:23,373 --> 00:28:24,813
Speaker 3: quintessential Kiwis.

590
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Speaker 2: It's such a bizarre question because what does it even mean.

591
00:28:27,933 --> 00:28:30,573
Speaker 2: But if you said someone that I think is quintessential

592
00:28:30,653 --> 00:28:33,933
Speaker 2: Kiwi that I just immediately pops to in my mind,

593
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Speaker 2: which I think is an absolute great New Zealand, I'd

594
00:28:36,813 --> 00:28:37,933
Speaker 2: say Dame Lisa Carrington.

595
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Speaker 3: Oh she's great. Everybody loves Lisa and she is just

596
00:28:41,773 --> 00:28:46,053
Speaker 3: soult of the earth. She is quintessential Kiwi, batler and achiever.

597
00:28:46,493 --> 00:28:48,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like she's out of touch because she's winning

598
00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:53,053
Speaker 2: gold medals, she's off in Tokyo, she's in Paris, she

599
00:28:53,493 --> 00:28:56,733
Speaker 2: owns a kayak, she's got her own boat. She's out

600
00:28:56,733 --> 00:28:57,053
Speaker 2: of touch.

601
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Speaker 3: We used to have we haven't done it for some time,

602
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Speaker 3: but we used to have the most Trusted People in

603
00:29:00,933 --> 00:29:03,253
Speaker 3: New Zealand list. From those lists, yeah, yeah, So I

604
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Speaker 3: found that the most recent one I could find from

605
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. I just want to give you a give

606
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Speaker 3: you the top five, now, can I have a guess? Yeah?

607
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Speaker 3: So number one twenty seventeen, who was the most trusted

608
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Speaker 3: person in New Zealand.

609
00:29:16,173 --> 00:29:21,533
Speaker 2: I'd say Willie Appiada who you're close? He's number two,

610
00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:24,293
Speaker 2: number two, right, Can I give you a clue? Yes,

611
00:29:24,773 --> 00:29:26,733
Speaker 2: rugby player Oh Richie.

612
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Speaker 3: Mccaugh No, Richie's number three.

613
00:29:29,613 --> 00:29:32,813
Speaker 2: Karen Reid, great New Zealander, very much in touch. He's

614
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Speaker 2: the common man.

615
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Speaker 3: I've got to go down the little bit it for

616
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Speaker 3: Kier and that's unfair on Kieren. He should number one.

617
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Speaker 2: Karen Reid should be number one.

618
00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:40,773
Speaker 3: Great captain rugby player who went on to be a

619
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Speaker 3: great advocate for men's mental health.

620
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Speaker 2: Ah, Sir John Kerwyn.

621
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Speaker 3: There it is twenty seventeen.

622
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Speaker 2: Well, you know I saw his house when it went

623
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Speaker 2: on the market. If we're going to nicol and dine

624
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Speaker 2: people on their houses, the beautiful property that he's recently

625
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Speaker 2: had on the market.

626
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Speaker 3: I bet he does right. It is twenty one to

627
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Speaker 3: two oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

628
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Speaker 3: number to.

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Speaker 1: Call the big stories, the big issues, the big trends

630
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Speaker 1: and everything in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

631
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Speaker 1: You for twenty twenty four news talk, sa'd.

632
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Speaker 3: Be eighteen to one.

633
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Speaker 2: We're talking about a one news Veriant poll that has

634
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Speaker 2: come back with a finding that fifty one percent of

635
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Speaker 2: New Zealanders believe that Christopher Luxon is out of touch. Kevin,

636
00:30:24,093 --> 00:30:24,813
Speaker 2: what do you think?

637
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Speaker 18: Well, I'm just wondering, is one news in touch themselves?

638
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Speaker 18: Are they actually relevant in any way? They're struggling to

639
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:40,373
Speaker 18: be financially viable. Perhaps they should actually model themselves a

640
00:30:40,413 --> 00:30:43,413
Speaker 18: little bit on, take a few leaves out of Chris

641
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Speaker 18: Luxon's book and actually try and make themselves financially viable.

642
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Speaker 18: I mean, the guy's done quite well. He's come from

643
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Speaker 18: a working background his parents, and he's done. He actually

644
00:30:55,493 --> 00:30:58,053
Speaker 18: paid attention at the school, went through and became a

645
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Speaker 18: commercial leader, you know, in various companies and there rose

646
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Speaker 18: up to run national companies in this country.

647
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Speaker 8: So would you rather get a guy I've got.

648
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Speaker 18: It's a friend called Alan at the moment, really in

649
00:31:11,893 --> 00:31:14,653
Speaker 18: touch with He knows everyone around here. We can get

650
00:31:14,733 --> 00:31:15,613
Speaker 18: him to run the place.

651
00:31:16,413 --> 00:31:18,493
Speaker 7: He'd be, he'd know everyone, but.

652
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Speaker 18: I think we'd would probably kick him out in about

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Speaker 18: three days.

654
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Speaker 3: I probably want to make him him on the first day,

655
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Speaker 3: but I'll Alan a shot. He can, you know, do

656
00:31:25,613 --> 00:31:27,613
Speaker 3: the coffees to start off with and see how he goes.

657
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Speaker 14: Well, we used to.

658
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Speaker 5: We used to.

659
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Speaker 18: I just work for a government organization that used to

660
00:31:31,693 --> 00:31:34,093
Speaker 18: have twenty four hours where we would reverse the roles

661
00:31:34,813 --> 00:31:37,853
Speaker 18: and the lowest ranked person in the company would actually

662
00:31:37,933 --> 00:31:40,333
Speaker 18: end up running the company for a day, just to

663
00:31:40,373 --> 00:31:43,573
Speaker 18: appreciate the crap the top of the boss and he

664
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Speaker 18: and they were just going, yeah, and new appreciate when

665
00:31:45,533 --> 00:31:47,613
Speaker 18: you talk the spokes masters doing yeah, new appreciation. I

666
00:31:47,613 --> 00:31:50,093
Speaker 18: didn't realize all the stuff I have to do to

667
00:31:50,293 --> 00:31:52,253
Speaker 18: to and you know, he didn't make any decisions, but

668
00:31:52,293 --> 00:31:54,053
Speaker 18: he said, right now, you got to kind of look

669
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Speaker 18: at this report. And then the guy just went, yeah,

670
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Speaker 18: I'll go back to the my my at the cold face.

671
00:31:59,213 --> 00:32:02,413
Speaker 18: I'm quite happy building this building, these whatever projects youve

672
00:32:02,413 --> 00:32:04,853
Speaker 18: got me building. So it's just, you know, I think

673
00:32:04,893 --> 00:32:07,893
Speaker 18: it's I think I seem to think it's it's my

674
00:32:07,973 --> 00:32:10,813
Speaker 18: seat is like you're gas lighting him because he's done well.

675
00:32:10,973 --> 00:32:14,293
Speaker 18: And I'd rather a guy who's done well to show

676
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:16,973
Speaker 18: me the way that I can do well. I can

677
00:32:17,173 --> 00:32:19,413
Speaker 18: or give us something to emulate and go, yeah, actually

678
00:32:19,453 --> 00:32:22,173
Speaker 18: he knows how to get things done, and that's leadership

679
00:32:22,213 --> 00:32:23,573
Speaker 18: is getting stuff done.

680
00:32:23,973 --> 00:32:24,133
Speaker 5: Yeah.

681
00:32:24,133 --> 00:32:26,653
Speaker 2: I think people are kind of confusing the idea of

682
00:32:26,733 --> 00:32:29,213
Speaker 2: wealth with being out of touch. But you can certainly

683
00:32:29,253 --> 00:32:31,533
Speaker 2: be out of touch and have no money at all.

684
00:32:31,573 --> 00:32:35,093
Speaker 2: I've got friends that have absolutely no money but are

685
00:32:35,493 --> 00:32:39,813
Speaker 2: so entrenched in social media bubbles that they have become

686
00:32:39,853 --> 00:32:44,693
Speaker 2: completely out of touch with what most New Zealand does are.

687
00:32:44,573 --> 00:32:46,573
Speaker 3: In their little tribe, and they think that's what most

688
00:32:46,573 --> 00:32:49,053
Speaker 3: people think, but the reality is that that's just a

689
00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:51,013
Speaker 3: real small proportion of the population.

690
00:32:51,253 --> 00:32:54,933
Speaker 2: Yes, So if you're you know, your metric for how

691
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:58,213
Speaker 2: in touch someone is how much money they've got, or

692
00:32:58,373 --> 00:33:02,493
Speaker 2: how many houses they've recently sold, or the optics of

693
00:33:02,493 --> 00:33:05,893
Speaker 2: the situation, the word that I absolutely hate, then you

694
00:33:05,973 --> 00:33:08,613
Speaker 2: probably have got a pretty simplistic view of what in

695
00:33:08,653 --> 00:33:09,613
Speaker 2: touch and out of touch is.

696
00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:12,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always uncomfortable, and Kevin, I'll bring you back

697
00:33:12,493 --> 00:33:15,133
Speaker 3: in here. Always uncomfortable. The way that we do tend

698
00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:19,013
Speaker 3: to try and bring down politicians. It's determinant on how

699
00:33:19,053 --> 00:33:21,453
Speaker 3: you vote when you want to try and tear that

700
00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:25,053
Speaker 3: person down. And I love that Theodore Roosevelt quote. I

701
00:33:25,093 --> 00:33:27,173
Speaker 3: think it is that the credit belongs to the person

702
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:29,853
Speaker 3: in the arena, and politics is not a job I

703
00:33:29,893 --> 00:33:32,773
Speaker 3: would ever want to do. It seems an incredibly hard

704
00:33:32,853 --> 00:33:35,213
Speaker 3: job and you get bugger or love for it. People

705
00:33:35,373 --> 00:33:37,893
Speaker 3: just love to try and tear you down, and you're

706
00:33:37,973 --> 00:33:40,453
Speaker 3: there to try and do the best you can for

707
00:33:40,493 --> 00:33:41,053
Speaker 3: this country.

708
00:33:41,213 --> 00:33:42,653
Speaker 2: I mean, why would anyone do it? Well, that's a

709
00:33:42,693 --> 00:33:45,613
Speaker 2: really good question. So if people that have been successful

710
00:33:45,693 --> 00:33:47,933
Speaker 2: know that if you go into politics now then you

711
00:33:47,933 --> 00:33:51,893
Speaker 2: are going to be abused for your success, then is

712
00:33:51,933 --> 00:33:54,093
Speaker 2: that going to make it even less attractive for really

713
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:56,973
Speaker 2: successful people to jump in and see what they can

714
00:33:57,013 --> 00:33:57,933
Speaker 2: do to help their country.

715
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Speaker 18: Kevin, I think you've it, nol On had that there's

716
00:34:02,413 --> 00:34:06,853
Speaker 18: some at the moment we don't give enough, We don't

717
00:34:06,853 --> 00:34:08,573
Speaker 18: make it a trace of enough to get really good

718
00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:15,093
Speaker 18: people in running our councils and running our our and

719
00:34:15,172 --> 00:34:18,053
Speaker 18: being in parliament, and you end up with the message

720
00:34:18,213 --> 00:34:20,573
Speaker 18: you have and because you're trying then to basically, if

721
00:34:20,573 --> 00:34:22,733
Speaker 18: you if you're running a company, you get to decide

722
00:34:22,893 --> 00:34:26,453
Speaker 18: how the company runs, you know, so you achieve your

723
00:34:27,253 --> 00:34:29,212
Speaker 18: whatever the aims of the company company are. But then

724
00:34:29,373 --> 00:34:32,333
Speaker 18: if you go into a council, then you're arguing with

725
00:34:32,413 --> 00:34:35,133
Speaker 18: people and it's all getting written up in the in

726
00:34:35,173 --> 00:34:36,973
Speaker 18: the press the whole time. Every time you try and

727
00:34:36,973 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 18: make a decision that someone might not like. And even

728
00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:44,093
Speaker 18: though Barma spoke about it when he left, he spoke

729
00:34:44,093 --> 00:34:46,973
Speaker 18: about as the president, he only really had two years

730
00:34:47,013 --> 00:34:49,772
Speaker 18: before he then had to start working because they voted

731
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Speaker 18: against him for in the in the House of Representatives whatever,

732
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:56,133
Speaker 18: and he then said, right now, I have.

733
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Speaker 19: To move these people.

734
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Speaker 6: You have to.

735
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Speaker 18: You're basically horse trading all the time to get anything done.

736
00:35:01,173 --> 00:35:02,973
Speaker 18: Even though he's the president for eight years and everyone's

737
00:35:03,053 --> 00:35:05,573
Speaker 18: saying that he was a fantastic or some singtle say

738
00:35:05,573 --> 00:35:08,333
Speaker 18: it's a fantastic present, he didn't really get much achieved

739
00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:10,293
Speaker 18: because he had to keep trying to get one group

740
00:35:11,053 --> 00:35:13,453
Speaker 18: and then trying to get another group, and you try

741
00:35:13,453 --> 00:35:16,212
Speaker 18: to sitting swords. But the word we seem to be

742
00:35:16,413 --> 00:35:18,652
Speaker 18: at least we've got a group of three people who

743
00:35:18,653 --> 00:35:20,373
Speaker 18: are moving in the same direction, or a group of

744
00:35:20,413 --> 00:35:22,893
Speaker 18: three parties that are moving in the same right direction

745
00:35:24,053 --> 00:35:26,613
Speaker 18: or a direction. Some people might not like it because

746
00:35:26,613 --> 00:35:31,093
Speaker 18: it's affecting them worse than others. But if you're then

747
00:35:31,093 --> 00:35:33,253
Speaker 18: going to tear the guy that or people down in

748
00:35:33,253 --> 00:35:36,853
Speaker 18: the leadership positions, you try to come out with the solutions.

749
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean that's a big question. And democracy,

750
00:35:39,693 --> 00:35:42,853
Speaker 2: isn't it. How much time do our politicians spend actually

751
00:35:42,853 --> 00:35:46,293
Speaker 2: doing what they believe and they've been elected because they

752
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:49,293
Speaker 2: believe that to do the best for the country. And

753
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:51,933
Speaker 2: how much do they do they spend dealing with media

754
00:35:51,933 --> 00:35:54,853
Speaker 2: punishers like you and me, Tyler coming up with content

755
00:35:54,973 --> 00:35:59,333
Speaker 2: for our broadcasts for our own personal gain to nicol

756
00:35:59,333 --> 00:36:03,652
Speaker 2: and Diamond little things that that's arguably meaningless in the

757
00:36:03,653 --> 00:36:05,213
Speaker 2: big scheme of things as democracy.

758
00:36:05,253 --> 00:36:07,453
Speaker 3: Baby, Julia, what do you think on this one?

759
00:36:09,053 --> 00:36:13,172
Speaker 20: Well, I agree with the well Kiora, now you two

760
00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:18,053
Speaker 20: both help. I totally agree with the previous callers that

761
00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:20,413
Speaker 20: I've only just come in and I never you know,

762
00:36:21,133 --> 00:36:25,413
Speaker 20: call in. It's but this really gets me because what

763
00:36:25,573 --> 00:36:29,133
Speaker 20: a stupid question from TV one. I just think they

764
00:36:29,213 --> 00:36:31,813
Speaker 20: are woke and out of touch. I totally agree with

765
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Speaker 20: the previous to call us.

766
00:36:34,973 --> 00:36:35,733
Speaker 7: What a question.

767
00:36:35,853 --> 00:36:38,533
Speaker 20: I mean, in touch with whom if you're talking about,

768
00:36:38,733 --> 00:36:41,733
Speaker 20: in touch with business people and people who want to

769
00:36:41,813 --> 00:36:45,573
Speaker 20: move the economy, grow the economy, so we can afford

770
00:36:45,613 --> 00:36:49,733
Speaker 20: as a country to help those who are going to

771
00:36:49,813 --> 00:36:52,093
Speaker 20: always be you know, there's going to be always people

772
00:36:52,133 --> 00:36:56,053
Speaker 20: that are needing help. I totally agree with we need

773
00:36:56,093 --> 00:36:58,692
Speaker 20: to have funding for that, but you can't do it

774
00:36:58,773 --> 00:37:00,933
Speaker 20: the way the books are at the moment, and with

775
00:37:01,093 --> 00:37:05,533
Speaker 20: what we've inherited. It's it's it's drawing on the tall

776
00:37:05,573 --> 00:37:09,292
Speaker 20: poppy syndrome society that just want to slash and down

777
00:37:10,093 --> 00:37:13,293
Speaker 20: the poor guy. I feel for him. Every media question

778
00:37:13,453 --> 00:37:17,212
Speaker 20: that comes at him is just demeaning him. And when

779
00:37:17,213 --> 00:37:24,853
Speaker 20: he's out there overseas trying to increase exports, now exports,

780
00:37:24,933 --> 00:37:28,652
Speaker 20: that's exactly what we need for growing the economy. If

781
00:37:28,653 --> 00:37:30,493
Speaker 20: you want to say, is he in touch with the

782
00:37:30,573 --> 00:37:36,133
Speaker 20: common man? And I think that's what TV wan are imply. Well,

783
00:37:36,173 --> 00:37:39,172
Speaker 20: I suppose you'd say Jasinda would be more in touch

784
00:37:39,253 --> 00:37:42,093
Speaker 20: than Luxeon, but look where she led the economy.

785
00:37:42,653 --> 00:37:44,333
Speaker 7: So what a stupid question?

786
00:37:44,453 --> 00:37:49,613
Speaker 20: Why not say, do you think Christopher Luxeen is growing

787
00:37:49,613 --> 00:37:52,493
Speaker 20: the economy, is doing a good job in trying to

788
00:37:52,533 --> 00:37:55,413
Speaker 20: grow the economy. I would say absolutely yes.

789
00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:58,053
Speaker 3: Nicely said, well, thank you so much, Julia.

790
00:37:58,653 --> 00:38:00,933
Speaker 2: Don't often call, but you have, so we appreciate that,

791
00:38:01,053 --> 00:38:05,173
Speaker 2: and please call again. So seeing is the simplistic metric

792
00:38:05,453 --> 00:38:09,773
Speaker 2: that people seem to be judging this, whether Luxe Ander's

793
00:38:09,973 --> 00:38:13,973
Speaker 2: in touch, out of touches property yep. I think he

794
00:38:14,093 --> 00:38:15,413
Speaker 2: sold a few properties recently.

795
00:38:15,453 --> 00:38:15,613
Speaker 15: There.

796
00:38:15,653 --> 00:38:17,493
Speaker 3: Who doesn't sell a property and make money?

797
00:38:17,573 --> 00:38:17,773
Speaker 7: You know?

798
00:38:18,853 --> 00:38:22,573
Speaker 2: But if that's the simplistic last metric we're looking at,

799
00:38:23,173 --> 00:38:24,933
Speaker 2: I've got a question for you. What do you think

800
00:38:25,053 --> 00:38:28,933
Speaker 2: is the most expensive residential property in New Zealand? And where?

801
00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:31,413
Speaker 3: Good question. I'll give you an answer very shortly.

802
00:38:31,453 --> 00:38:37,172
Speaker 1: It is ten to two, matteeth Tyler Adams steaking your

803
00:38:37,213 --> 00:38:42,493
Speaker 1: calls on Tyler Adams afternoons news dogs.

804
00:38:44,053 --> 00:38:45,853
Speaker 3: It is eight to two now before the break, you

805
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:49,373
Speaker 3: mentioned where New Zealand's most expensive property.

806
00:38:49,053 --> 00:38:50,213
Speaker 2: Is and how much?

807
00:38:50,813 --> 00:38:53,333
Speaker 3: Well you think Paratie Drive in Auckland.

808
00:38:56,333 --> 00:39:01,013
Speaker 2: It must be in Auckland, are you idiot? Queenstown, Oh Targo?

809
00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:07,573
Speaker 2: How much fourteen hectare estate in Queenstown sold for well

810
00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:14,453
Speaker 2: over forty million dollars? That is the most expensive residential

811
00:39:14,493 --> 00:39:15,613
Speaker 2: property in New Zealand.

812
00:39:15,653 --> 00:39:17,133
Speaker 3: How many beds do you get for forty miili?

813
00:39:18,213 --> 00:39:23,493
Speaker 2: At least it's confidential, Yes, it's confidential, sixteen forty just

814
00:39:23,573 --> 00:39:26,213
Speaker 2: one bathroom though, no, I'm kidding.

815
00:39:26,453 --> 00:39:27,333
Speaker 3: How are you, mate?

816
00:39:28,573 --> 00:39:28,853
Speaker 21: Very well?

817
00:39:28,893 --> 00:39:30,173
Speaker 7: I want to what the race ball will be for

818
00:39:30,293 --> 00:39:32,253
Speaker 7: that exactly?

819
00:39:33,733 --> 00:39:33,893
Speaker 5: Now?

820
00:39:33,973 --> 00:39:34,172
Speaker 15: Mate?

821
00:39:34,293 --> 00:39:36,453
Speaker 3: Is our prime minister? Is he out of touch?

822
00:39:38,613 --> 00:39:38,773
Speaker 22: He?

823
00:39:38,853 --> 00:39:42,253
Speaker 7: Possibly when he's interviewed. He appears to me to be

824
00:39:42,373 --> 00:39:46,573
Speaker 7: sort of always a bit awkward, But as a prime minister,

825
00:39:47,013 --> 00:39:51,172
Speaker 7: I don't really think it's a necessary a tribute to heave.

826
00:39:51,213 --> 00:39:53,453
Speaker 7: In a lot of ways, he is a good manager

827
00:39:54,053 --> 00:39:56,813
Speaker 7: and that's what he's doing. He's managing the country. But

828
00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:59,613
Speaker 7: the only thing I would say is, when I see him,

829
00:39:59,653 --> 00:40:02,933
Speaker 7: I often feel that he lacks the ability to think quickly,

830
00:40:03,813 --> 00:40:08,453
Speaker 7: like making comments about along the lines of it's not

831
00:40:08,693 --> 00:40:11,493
Speaker 7: my fault or it's not my I'm not going to

832
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:14,373
Speaker 7: apologize for being rich or wealthy. I can't remember exactly

833
00:40:14,413 --> 00:40:17,333
Speaker 7: what he said. Those sort of comments are probably not

834
00:40:17,493 --> 00:40:22,133
Speaker 7: that helpful to the average person, and it doesn't particularly

835
00:40:22,173 --> 00:40:25,693
Speaker 7: worry me, but some people would think, well, you know, okay,

836
00:40:25,453 --> 00:40:28,053
Speaker 7: why would he say something like that when I'm struggling

837
00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:29,973
Speaker 7: to pay a mortgage and all that. It's sort of

838
00:40:30,053 --> 00:40:32,253
Speaker 7: rub assault into the wound a little bit, you know

839
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Speaker 7: what I mean.

840
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Speaker 2: But I guess I guess what's he supposed to say

841
00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:39,213
Speaker 2: under that circumstance, though, I mean, he's just telling the truth.

842
00:40:39,333 --> 00:40:43,053
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes the politicians, if they pretend, if you know,

843
00:40:43,093 --> 00:40:45,652
Speaker 2: they roll up the sleeves in the in the you know,

844
00:40:46,373 --> 00:40:49,013
Speaker 2: a photo op where they're they're out sharing a sheep

845
00:40:49,133 --> 00:40:53,133
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, it's kind of disingenuous. But if you

846
00:40:53,173 --> 00:40:55,652
Speaker 2: are wealthy and successful and you say you're wealthy and

847
00:40:55,693 --> 00:40:59,853
Speaker 2: it's successful, then in a way, that's just that's just honesty.

848
00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:02,172
Speaker 2: And I can kind of appreciate that.

849
00:41:02,213 --> 00:41:03,853
Speaker 3: It's a hard one. I get your points on any

850
00:41:03,933 --> 00:41:06,213
Speaker 3: but I do wonder in that circumstance, I'm sure he

851
00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:08,333
Speaker 3: said a lot more than what was just quoted there.

852
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,773
Speaker 3: I've picked out one part of an answer that probably

853
00:41:10,813 --> 00:41:12,493
Speaker 3: had a lot more context in it. And that's the

854
00:41:12,733 --> 00:41:14,893
Speaker 3: fair part about it, right, as he might might have

855
00:41:15,013 --> 00:41:19,252
Speaker 3: tried to explain a bit more about Yeah, he's done

856
00:41:19,253 --> 00:41:21,973
Speaker 3: well in life, but can also understand and empathize that

857
00:41:22,133 --> 00:41:25,812
Speaker 3: people who are struggling at the moment need some help

858
00:41:25,853 --> 00:41:27,133
Speaker 3: and that's what he's in for well.

859
00:41:27,653 --> 00:41:30,373
Speaker 2: And what I'd say, Tony, is he maybe he comes

860
00:41:30,413 --> 00:41:34,293
Speaker 2: across not as well on television as he does in

861
00:41:34,333 --> 00:41:36,933
Speaker 2: real life. And he you know, he's going out meeting

862
00:41:36,933 --> 00:41:39,373
Speaker 2: people as the Prime Minister should, but as a person

863
00:41:39,373 --> 00:41:42,652
Speaker 2: that's spent some time with them, you know, and just

864
00:41:42,693 --> 00:41:46,212
Speaker 2: in a broadcasting professional sense, he comes across a lot

865
00:41:46,213 --> 00:41:49,093
Speaker 2: better one on one he does, he's got good chat.

866
00:41:49,893 --> 00:41:52,333
Speaker 2: He does have good chator. Yeah, knows the sport.

867
00:41:53,893 --> 00:41:56,853
Speaker 3: Josh, we got about forty seconds, my friend, what's your thoughts?

868
00:41:57,093 --> 00:42:00,933
Speaker 5: Oh, guys, come make me wait for ten minutes forty seconds.

869
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Speaker 23: Sorry, I got a call.

870
00:42:03,653 --> 00:42:03,933
Speaker 24: To get me.

871
00:42:03,973 --> 00:42:08,933
Speaker 2: Tom coy his Facebook rabbit hole us where they go,

872
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Speaker 2: man go, I can't do on forty seconds?

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Speaker 9: I'm afraid.

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Speaker 25: Can I come back?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm I'm going to talk to your

876
00:42:16,413 --> 00:42:18,893
Speaker 3: off air and then I'll try to regurgitate what you

877
00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:22,333
Speaker 3: tell me. All right, Josh, Josh calls this hour. Yeah,

878
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,093
Speaker 3: thank you very much of us. That was a good discussion. Right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up very shortly, we're going to be talking about

880
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:29,453
Speaker 3: a new bill that is going through Parliament and the

881
00:42:29,453 --> 00:42:33,172
Speaker 3: Philippines they want to introduce what they're calling heartbreak leave.

882
00:42:33,653 --> 00:42:35,773
Speaker 3: And you have a bad breakup, you ring the boss

883
00:42:35,773 --> 00:42:39,013
Speaker 3: and say I'm hurting. Can I tap into my heartbreak leave?

884
00:42:39,133 --> 00:42:44,613
Speaker 3: No problem? Signed off? Where it's coming up very shortly.

885
00:42:44,653 --> 00:43:08,173
Speaker 3: Great to have your company, Newsport and Weather on its way.

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Speaker 13: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four US Talk said be.

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Speaker 3: News Talks. He'd be Yes, Matt and Tyler with you

890
00:43:10,973 --> 00:43:13,293
Speaker 3: until four pm. Great to have your company has always

891
00:43:13,293 --> 00:43:16,253
Speaker 3: hope you're having a fantastic afternoon wherever you're listening in

892
00:43:16,293 --> 00:43:19,693
Speaker 3: the country. Good discussion last hour, But we're gonna shift

893
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Speaker 3: it up for the next forty five minutes or so.

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00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:24,413
Speaker 3: We want to talk about what's been called heartbreak leave.

895
00:43:24,973 --> 00:43:27,213
Speaker 3: So a bill in the Philippines is trying to secure

896
00:43:27,253 --> 00:43:30,093
Speaker 3: time off for workers after a breakup, and they think

897
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Speaker 3: it may improve productivity.

898
00:43:32,333 --> 00:43:34,293
Speaker 2: Surely, if that's happening in the Philippines, then it will

899
00:43:34,293 --> 00:43:35,813
Speaker 2: happen here eventually.

900
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:40,253
Speaker 3: In recognition of the negative emotional baggage they say that

901
00:43:40,333 --> 00:43:45,493
Speaker 3: can come after a relationship breakup breakup. Riccardo Deblado great name,

902
00:43:45,613 --> 00:43:49,093
Speaker 3: chief executive of the cebu Car Century Plaza Hotel in

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Speaker 3: the Philippines, last year unveiled an unusual news staff policy

904
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Speaker 3: five paid days of heartbreak leave. So the time off,

905
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Speaker 3: which can be taken annually, provided the breakup is with

906
00:43:59,213 --> 00:44:03,652
Speaker 3: a different person each year, was inspired by Riccardo's own

907
00:44:03,693 --> 00:44:06,293
Speaker 3: experience in the Philippines. The idea is catching on a

908
00:44:06,333 --> 00:44:09,613
Speaker 3: parliamentary bill in February this year proposed that any worker

909
00:44:09,893 --> 00:44:13,213
Speaker 3: going through a romantic breakup should be eligible for up

910
00:44:13,213 --> 00:44:17,173
Speaker 3: to three days of unpaid leave, and employers, it appears

911
00:44:17,213 --> 00:44:20,253
Speaker 3: across the world have increasingly sought to make concessions for

912
00:44:20,293 --> 00:44:23,573
Speaker 3: their workers' personal lives, offering well being days, flexible work

913
00:44:23,853 --> 00:44:27,093
Speaker 3: and in some cases counseling services. So in the UK,

914
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Speaker 3: employeers including Tesco, the Supermarket Chain and Metro Bank have

915
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Speaker 3: targeted break up support to families. Signing up to the

916
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Speaker 3: Parents Promise created by Positive Parenting Alliance and Advocacy Group,

917
00:44:37,973 --> 00:44:40,853
Speaker 3: employers make commitments to help parents who are separating from

918
00:44:40,933 --> 00:44:44,373
Speaker 3: each other, including giving them a chance to work flexibly

919
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Speaker 3: and also giving them days off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things on this. I would say

921
00:44:49,093 --> 00:44:52,533
Speaker 2: when you're breaking up with someone that it's best to

922
00:44:52,573 --> 00:44:55,333
Speaker 2: focus in on the positives of your life. Get into work,

923
00:44:55,733 --> 00:44:57,653
Speaker 2: hang out with the people at work, keep the structure

924
00:44:57,693 --> 00:45:00,413
Speaker 2: in your life just for you, going taking outside of

925
00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:04,173
Speaker 2: the issue of employment and your relationship with your work

926
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Speaker 2: and the using of your using of your sick days

927
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Speaker 2: for it. I would say, you get the structure in,

928
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Speaker 2: get back into work the next day. It's all about

929
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Speaker 2: keeping your dignity in the breakup, and it's a great philosophy.

930
00:45:16,573 --> 00:45:19,293
Speaker 2: It's all about making keeping the structures going a foundation

931
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Speaker 2: for your life going forward. So for you much better

932
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Speaker 2: chance of getting that person back if you're seen to

933
00:45:25,053 --> 00:45:27,973
Speaker 2: be out there achieving instead of at home sulking.

934
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Speaker 3: You've got to look good, get down to the gym,

935
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Speaker 3: just better yourself, better for yourself.

936
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Speaker 2: And no one ever got someone back by by taking

937
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Speaker 2: preak leave work.

938
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Speaker 3: Would this be a step too far? I mean, you

939
00:45:39,293 --> 00:45:41,853
Speaker 3: are an employee, you've got you've run businesses in the past,

940
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:44,453
Speaker 3: and you still run businesses now do you think this

941
00:45:44,653 --> 00:45:48,213
Speaker 3: is just too much? Where does the line or where

942
00:45:48,293 --> 00:45:50,693
Speaker 3: is the line between what a boss is expected to

943
00:45:50,693 --> 00:45:53,893
Speaker 3: do and looking after their employee because effectively bosses are

944
00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:54,613
Speaker 3: like counselors.

945
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Speaker 2: Now, well, I think people forget that bosses, generally speaking,

946
00:45:57,813 --> 00:46:00,853
Speaker 2: really care about the people that they that work for them.

947
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Speaker 2: They sort there's sort of this idea out there that

948
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Speaker 2: they're just trying to use people as hard as they

949
00:46:05,373 --> 00:46:07,732
Speaker 2: can and get everything about them. But most employees spend

950
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Speaker 2: a lot of time worrying about keeping their employees employed,

951
00:46:11,893 --> 00:46:15,652
Speaker 2: and they worry about their families, and there's hardly any

952
00:46:15,653 --> 00:46:19,253
Speaker 2: employees out there that don't spend at least sometime losing sleep,

953
00:46:19,293 --> 00:46:23,293
Speaker 2: worrying about the lives of their employees and feeling responsible

954
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Speaker 2: for them. So I think from that perspective, and you

955
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Speaker 2: know you're not you know, bereavement leave as an example.

956
00:46:30,213 --> 00:46:33,213
Speaker 2: People definitely open with bereavement leaves. So I think there

957
00:46:33,213 --> 00:46:35,853
Speaker 2: wouldn't be many bosses out there that wouldn't go okay.

958
00:46:36,333 --> 00:46:37,933
Speaker 2: And as long as you're not milking it, you know,

959
00:46:38,053 --> 00:46:39,893
Speaker 2: like as the Sticks has said, you get one after

960
00:46:39,933 --> 00:46:42,613
Speaker 2: a one night stand. If someone rings up and says,

961
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Speaker 2: I really like this person but that don't seem to

962
00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:49,253
Speaker 2: like me, I need to take a day off to

963
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Speaker 2: deal with it, then they're no. But I just think

964
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Speaker 2: I just put it back on you, and it's you

965
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Speaker 2: as a person. What's best for you, and what's best

966
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Speaker 2: for you is getting on with your life and not

967
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:03,573
Speaker 2: changing anything and focusing on the good things as I

968
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:07,613
Speaker 2: said before, which is your job and your friends and

969
00:47:07,653 --> 00:47:08,973
Speaker 2: the structures in your life.

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00:47:09,013 --> 00:47:11,813
Speaker 3: Would you prefer an employee to be upfront about it

971
00:47:11,813 --> 00:47:13,853
Speaker 3: that the hey, boss, I've had a break up with

972
00:47:13,893 --> 00:47:16,813
Speaker 3: my long term partner or wife or husband. I'm going

973
00:47:16,853 --> 00:47:19,453
Speaker 3: through a mirror of a time my life and pieces

974
00:47:19,453 --> 00:47:21,333
Speaker 3: at the moment, I need a couple of days off.

975
00:47:21,373 --> 00:47:23,133
Speaker 3: Can I use my heartbreak.

976
00:47:22,693 --> 00:47:24,252
Speaker 2: Leave rather than pretending to be sick?

977
00:47:24,373 --> 00:47:26,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's what most key wes will do it

978
00:47:26,453 --> 00:47:27,853
Speaker 3: at the moment. If they having a bad day for

979
00:47:27,893 --> 00:47:30,252
Speaker 3: whatever reason, call it a mental health day, because that's

980
00:47:30,253 --> 00:47:32,333
Speaker 3: effectively what it is. Right, you're going through some mental

981
00:47:32,373 --> 00:47:34,812
Speaker 3: health issue issues after a breakup that you just say

982
00:47:34,853 --> 00:47:37,053
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a bit sick, I'm not going to come

983
00:47:37,053 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 3: in today, and that becomes sick leave. I actually think

984
00:47:39,373 --> 00:47:41,173
Speaker 3: it's better to be more upfront with your employeer and

985
00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:44,013
Speaker 3: say I'm going through some things mentally because of this breakup.

986
00:47:44,333 --> 00:47:46,333
Speaker 3: I need some time so that you can get the

987
00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:47,613
Speaker 3: best out of me when I return.

988
00:47:47,853 --> 00:47:48,013
Speaker 5: Yeah.

989
00:47:48,093 --> 00:47:49,652
Speaker 2: I mean there's another side to that as well, as

990
00:47:49,893 --> 00:47:52,573
Speaker 2: do you want your employee to think that you're mentally

991
00:47:52,653 --> 00:47:57,413
Speaker 2: strong and you know, and the right person for higher honors.

992
00:47:57,453 --> 00:47:59,773
Speaker 2: That's another way to look at it. Yeah, if you're

993
00:47:59,853 --> 00:48:03,933
Speaker 2: keeping reaching out and saying that you needed some time

994
00:48:03,973 --> 00:48:05,893
Speaker 2: off because of heartbreak, you need a time off for

995
00:48:05,973 --> 00:48:08,133
Speaker 2: this and that, then they go, well, as this person

996
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:12,533
Speaker 2: dependable and they'll probably be empathetic empathetic to you and

997
00:48:12,813 --> 00:48:14,813
Speaker 2: they'll probably give it to you, but in the back

998
00:48:14,853 --> 00:48:17,893
Speaker 2: of their mind they're going to go emotionally week.

999
00:48:18,133 --> 00:48:20,413
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. This is going to

1000
00:48:20,413 --> 00:48:23,373
Speaker 3: be a good discussion. Have the Philippines lost the plot

1001
00:48:23,413 --> 00:48:26,013
Speaker 3: with heartbreak leave or is there some merit in the idea?

1002
00:48:26,053 --> 00:48:28,493
Speaker 3: Here in New Zealand. Nine two ninety two is the

1003
00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:31,652
Speaker 3: text number. It's twelve past two.

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00:48:31,093 --> 00:48:34,773
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk and Heathen Taylor Adams

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00:48:34,813 --> 00:48:35,813
Speaker 1: Afternoon call.

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00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:38,652
Speaker 13: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. News Talk said, be.

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00:48:40,093 --> 00:48:44,253
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is fourteen past two. Michael, you think

1008
00:48:44,293 --> 00:48:45,652
Speaker 3: this is a bit of a step too far.

1009
00:48:46,653 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 8: Oh, surely it's a joke.

1010
00:48:48,013 --> 00:48:50,933
Speaker 24: I mean what man worthy sot would ring in Telly's

1011
00:48:50,933 --> 00:48:52,693
Speaker 24: boss he was heartbroken, was having three.

1012
00:48:52,613 --> 00:48:53,252
Speaker 26: Days off work?

1013
00:48:54,013 --> 00:48:57,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it is actually going through Parliament

1014
00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:00,013
Speaker 3: and the Philippines at the moment on the back of

1015
00:49:00,133 --> 00:49:02,732
Speaker 3: this boss of a big hotel chain. He went through

1016
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:05,732
Speaker 3: a bad breakup, so he thinks his employees need five

1017
00:49:05,853 --> 00:49:07,493
Speaker 3: days to get over it. But a lot of people

1018
00:49:07,493 --> 00:49:10,533
Speaker 3: would agree with you that. I take it you'd be

1019
00:49:11,133 --> 00:49:13,253
Speaker 3: in the same philosophy as Matt that when you go

1020
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:15,733
Speaker 3: through that sort of stuff. It's it's about the character

1021
00:49:15,773 --> 00:49:17,973
Speaker 3: of who you are to push through and do the

1022
00:49:17,973 --> 00:49:20,013
Speaker 3: best you can and keep going to work and get

1023
00:49:20,013 --> 00:49:22,333
Speaker 3: out of that funk. That's the way through it. Rather

1024
00:49:22,373 --> 00:49:23,893
Speaker 3: than bring up your boss and say I had a

1025
00:49:23,893 --> 00:49:25,252
Speaker 3: bad breakup. I need a day off.

1026
00:49:26,133 --> 00:49:29,093
Speaker 24: Oh exactly, Well, most men deal with breakups are completely

1027
00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:31,573
Speaker 24: different way. They go out, have plenty of bears, and

1028
00:49:32,333 --> 00:49:34,453
Speaker 24: wake up next to someone else the next morning. So

1029
00:49:34,693 --> 00:49:37,453
Speaker 24: I don't think I'm staying home crying about it. It's going

1030
00:49:37,493 --> 00:49:37,813
Speaker 24: to help.

1031
00:49:38,293 --> 00:49:39,933
Speaker 2: So it'd be better to say to your boss, Hey,

1032
00:49:39,973 --> 00:49:42,733
Speaker 2: I'm hungover today because I have had a horrible breakup.

1033
00:49:43,533 --> 00:49:46,293
Speaker 2: I've gone out and I've woken up with someone else,

1034
00:49:46,333 --> 00:49:48,093
Speaker 2: and that's causing working.

1035
00:49:47,973 --> 00:49:50,733
Speaker 24: Up in working up in some random house somewhere else, just.

1036
00:49:50,773 --> 00:49:52,933
Speaker 3: Making my car keys and my wallet. I don't know

1037
00:49:52,973 --> 00:49:54,533
Speaker 3: where I am. I may be late.

1038
00:49:55,453 --> 00:49:58,693
Speaker 24: Yeah, I'm at home crying, watching the notebook with a

1039
00:49:58,733 --> 00:49:59,613
Speaker 24: cover of ice cream.

1040
00:50:01,253 --> 00:50:03,253
Speaker 2: Well, I think there is a point in that as

1041
00:50:03,293 --> 00:50:07,293
Speaker 2: well as what you want to portray to your employer

1042
00:50:07,373 --> 00:50:11,453
Speaker 2: as well. You might have a really empathetic employer that goes, yeah, yeah,

1043
00:50:11,493 --> 00:50:13,652
Speaker 2: you have you have two weeks off, mate, you have

1044
00:50:13,693 --> 00:50:17,493
Speaker 2: two weeks off for your for your heartbreak. But as

1045
00:50:17,493 --> 00:50:23,493
Speaker 2: I said before, they're then going well. Is this person

1046
00:50:23,973 --> 00:50:27,213
Speaker 2: the iron clad, strong minded person that I want to

1047
00:50:27,253 --> 00:50:29,853
Speaker 2: move up the ranks? And so for yourself personally, as

1048
00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:34,293
Speaker 2: I said before, moving through moving through your life. The

1049
00:50:34,333 --> 00:50:37,333
Speaker 2: structure of work is very important and also part of

1050
00:50:37,413 --> 00:50:40,813
Speaker 2: work is trying to move up through your work. So

1051
00:50:41,133 --> 00:50:45,133
Speaker 2: what you portray to your boss may be different from

1052
00:50:45,173 --> 00:50:47,652
Speaker 2: what you portray to your best mates. You have a

1053
00:50:47,693 --> 00:50:49,253
Speaker 2: cry on the shoulder of your best mate and have

1054
00:50:49,293 --> 00:50:51,613
Speaker 2: a beer, tell your boss that I'm sweet as I

1055
00:50:51,653 --> 00:50:54,693
Speaker 2: am strong as an ox, and he goes well, he

1056
00:50:54,773 --> 00:50:58,093
Speaker 2: just went up for a terrible, terrible breakup and his

1057
00:50:58,173 --> 00:50:59,252
Speaker 2: numbers have never been better.

1058
00:50:59,453 --> 00:51:01,133
Speaker 3: Is that a good thing? I mean, I hear what

1059
00:51:01,173 --> 00:51:03,333
Speaker 3: you're saying, and I can understand. You know you're you're

1060
00:51:03,813 --> 00:51:06,693
Speaker 3: a great character and a great philosophy that when something's

1061
00:51:06,733 --> 00:51:09,413
Speaker 3: going wrong, you're going to pull yourself out of that and.

1062
00:51:11,213 --> 00:51:13,373
Speaker 2: Lean on what you've got. You know, in your job,

1063
00:51:13,413 --> 00:51:15,293
Speaker 2: if you're lucky enough to have a job, that is

1064
00:51:15,293 --> 00:51:17,613
Speaker 2: one of the things that you can you can excel

1065
00:51:17,653 --> 00:51:19,973
Speaker 2: at and hang your hat on and something that you're

1066
00:51:19,973 --> 00:51:22,333
Speaker 2: doing well. But when other things are falling to pieces.

1067
00:51:22,453 --> 00:51:24,333
Speaker 3: But Michael, do we not want to be I'll bring

1068
00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:25,573
Speaker 3: you back in here. Do we not want to be

1069
00:51:25,613 --> 00:51:27,253
Speaker 3: honest with our bosses when we're having a bit of

1070
00:51:27,253 --> 00:51:29,973
Speaker 3: a crappy day or we're just not feeling mentally al

1071
00:51:30,053 --> 00:51:32,453
Speaker 3: right for whatever reason, that we can be upfront and say, hey,

1072
00:51:32,613 --> 00:51:34,133
Speaker 3: I'm just feeling a bit off today. I just want

1073
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:34,652
Speaker 3: to let you know that.

1074
00:51:35,613 --> 00:51:38,093
Speaker 24: I think honestly is the best policy. But if I

1075
00:51:38,173 --> 00:51:40,692
Speaker 24: was the employer and someone rang up to say I've

1076
00:51:40,693 --> 00:51:42,973
Speaker 24: broken up with my partner, wife whatever, and I want

1077
00:51:42,973 --> 00:51:45,093
Speaker 24: to have a day off, I'd be like, well, that's fantastic.

1078
00:51:45,133 --> 00:51:48,053
Speaker 24: You're gonna have a permanent holiday, take up your desk

1079
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:48,893
Speaker 24: and don't come back.

1080
00:51:50,053 --> 00:51:52,413
Speaker 3: Very good, Michael, thank you very much for kicking us off.

1081
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:56,133
Speaker 3: Huh quick text, and then we have got to get

1082
00:51:56,133 --> 00:51:58,893
Speaker 3: to some messages. Guys. There are too many soft people

1083
00:51:58,893 --> 00:52:03,133
Speaker 3: around these days with no resilience. Instead, let's get in

1084
00:52:03,213 --> 00:52:05,693
Speaker 3: touch with our emotions and well there, I'm sensitive. I

1085
00:52:05,773 --> 00:52:08,533
Speaker 3: heard easily, and my heart has been broken. But that

1086
00:52:08,733 --> 00:52:11,172
Speaker 3: is life. Get up, show up, get on with it.

1087
00:52:11,413 --> 00:52:13,413
Speaker 3: That is the best medicine in my opinion. Did you

1088
00:52:13,413 --> 00:52:14,093
Speaker 3: write that text?

1089
00:52:15,293 --> 00:52:17,733
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying. I'm saying talk to your friends,

1090
00:52:17,853 --> 00:52:20,853
Speaker 2: reach out to people, talk to your mum, talk to

1091
00:52:20,893 --> 00:52:24,333
Speaker 2: your dad, talk to your sisters, talk talk to your buddies,

1092
00:52:24,693 --> 00:52:28,013
Speaker 2: and be vulnerable with them. But to say to your

1093
00:52:28,053 --> 00:52:31,213
Speaker 2: boss that I'm heartbreak and I can't come in, I

1094
00:52:31,253 --> 00:52:33,293
Speaker 2: think that's a risky I think that's a risky, risky,

1095
00:52:33,453 --> 00:52:35,373
Speaker 2: risky approach to take into work. And I think it's

1096
00:52:35,373 --> 00:52:38,172
Speaker 2: also a risky approach to you because because, as I said,

1097
00:52:38,253 --> 00:52:40,973
Speaker 2: keep saying over him again, those structures are so important

1098
00:52:41,013 --> 00:52:43,973
Speaker 2: and keeping your dignity, keeping your dignity is the most

1099
00:52:44,013 --> 00:52:45,973
Speaker 2: important thing you can do in a breakup.

1100
00:52:46,573 --> 00:52:48,293
Speaker 3: I agree with you there, one hundred.

1101
00:52:48,693 --> 00:52:50,373
Speaker 2: Don't take the day off so you can stand out

1102
00:52:50,413 --> 00:52:51,693
Speaker 2: in front of your work crying.

1103
00:52:52,733 --> 00:52:55,213
Speaker 3: Definitely don't do that. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten

1104
00:52:55,253 --> 00:52:57,013
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call a nine two ninety

1105
00:52:57,013 --> 00:52:59,573
Speaker 3: two heartbreak leave. They're doing it in the Philippines and

1106
00:52:59,613 --> 00:53:02,133
Speaker 3: elsewhere around the world. Is it a silly idea? Is

1107
00:53:02,133 --> 00:53:04,292
Speaker 3: it too much for you as an employer? How would

1108
00:53:04,293 --> 00:53:06,053
Speaker 3: you feel about that? Get on the phones, give us

1109
00:53:06,053 --> 00:53:08,333
Speaker 3: a buzz. It is nineteen past two.

1110
00:53:13,013 --> 00:53:16,693
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1111
00:53:16,733 --> 00:53:18,413
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talks EDB.

1112
00:53:19,413 --> 00:53:22,133
Speaker 3: News Talks, EDB. We're talking about this idea of heartbreak leave.

1113
00:53:22,213 --> 00:53:24,732
Speaker 3: They are looking to introduce it in the Philippines. Are

1114
00:53:24,813 --> 00:53:27,773
Speaker 3: five days off per year if you have a bad breakup?

1115
00:53:27,973 --> 00:53:28,493
Speaker 3: How would that go?

1116
00:53:28,533 --> 00:53:28,573
Speaker 14: On?

1117
00:53:28,613 --> 00:53:30,253
Speaker 3: New Zealand, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1118
00:53:30,253 --> 00:53:31,773
Speaker 3: the number to call, VICKI, how.

1119
00:53:31,613 --> 00:53:34,773
Speaker 21: Are you HIGs for you?

1120
00:53:35,133 --> 00:53:37,173
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good? Great to chat you reckon? This is a

1121
00:53:37,213 --> 00:53:38,933
Speaker 3: bit too far old heartbreak leave.

1122
00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:50,453
Speaker 4: Look, in circumstances where there is marrow finances all that

1123
00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:55,293
Speaker 4: sort of thing. I appreciated the gentlemen who rung befoce

1124
00:53:55,373 --> 00:53:58,533
Speaker 4: point of view. But you know, in circumstances like that,

1125
00:53:58,573 --> 00:54:01,413
Speaker 4: when it's years and years of commitment or not even years,

1126
00:54:01,413 --> 00:54:03,973
Speaker 4: you don't have years and years of commitment to have

1127
00:54:04,013 --> 00:54:09,573
Speaker 4: that bond, you know. But in circumstances like that, dignity

1128
00:54:09,813 --> 00:54:13,773
Speaker 4: doesn't come into it. You know, Jesus, if we're that proud,

1129
00:54:14,373 --> 00:54:16,292
Speaker 4: O meant your health is never going to be good.

1130
00:54:16,653 --> 00:54:19,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that. I

1131
00:54:19,653 --> 00:54:22,093
Speaker 2: think you misunderstanding a little bit. They're Vicky, what I

1132
00:54:22,133 --> 00:54:25,733
Speaker 2: mean by dignity, I think dignity for yourself so that

1133
00:54:25,773 --> 00:54:28,093
Speaker 2: you can be proud of the way that you faced it.

1134
00:54:28,133 --> 00:54:30,693
Speaker 2: Because if you lose the person that you love for

1135
00:54:30,773 --> 00:54:33,893
Speaker 2: whatever reason, and you also lose your self respect at

1136
00:54:33,893 --> 00:54:36,333
Speaker 2: the same time, then you've lost two things. But as

1137
00:54:36,413 --> 00:54:38,573
Speaker 2: time goes on and you go through a breakup, and

1138
00:54:38,613 --> 00:54:42,693
Speaker 2: you can look back and say, I stood up and

1139
00:54:43,413 --> 00:54:45,573
Speaker 2: I did the right thing for me, and that was

1140
00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:48,813
Speaker 2: I went into work and maybe I said, look, i'm

1141
00:54:48,853 --> 00:54:50,573
Speaker 2: having a bit of a rough time here to people,

1142
00:54:51,493 --> 00:54:55,773
Speaker 2: but I held on to what I think is important

1143
00:54:55,813 --> 00:54:58,813
Speaker 2: for me and the principles of what I am. Then

1144
00:54:58,813 --> 00:55:02,013
Speaker 2: you can look back a year later and you can go, well,

1145
00:55:02,613 --> 00:55:04,933
Speaker 2: that was great, and you can feel you can feel pride,

1146
00:55:05,173 --> 00:55:06,773
Speaker 2: and also the person will probably come back because I'll

1147
00:55:06,813 --> 00:55:08,453
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this guy's.

1148
00:55:08,493 --> 00:55:10,453
Speaker 3: And that's a good trait. But VICKI go on you

1149
00:55:10,533 --> 00:55:13,652
Speaker 3: calling up because I feel Matt's viewpoint, and that's a

1150
00:55:13,653 --> 00:55:15,613
Speaker 3: great trait that Matt has. But I think that's a

1151
00:55:15,653 --> 00:55:19,133
Speaker 3: real male viewpoint is get back on the horse, get

1152
00:55:19,133 --> 00:55:21,733
Speaker 3: down to the gym, better yourself as a person, and

1153
00:55:21,813 --> 00:55:23,573
Speaker 3: you'll be all the better for it. But I think

1154
00:55:23,573 --> 00:55:24,172
Speaker 3: there's a bit more.

1155
00:55:24,733 --> 00:55:25,693
Speaker 21: That's amazing.

1156
00:55:26,293 --> 00:55:30,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's amazing how many men who think that

1157
00:55:31,053 --> 00:55:33,653
Speaker 4: they can do that and at Marcho enough and strong

1158
00:55:33,733 --> 00:55:37,172
Speaker 4: enough and brave enough to do it, can't do it

1159
00:55:37,293 --> 00:55:41,093
Speaker 4: or need to help and just by saying, hey, you know, yeah,

1160
00:55:41,213 --> 00:55:44,453
Speaker 4: totally ridiculous you go out for one night standing at

1161
00:55:45,853 --> 00:55:47,853
Speaker 4: and say, my one night stand hasn't had work, but

1162
00:55:47,893 --> 00:55:51,693
Speaker 4: hey I've had a good time. I'll squear you know, totally.

1163
00:55:51,893 --> 00:55:55,413
Speaker 2: No, but I would I would say slightly different. My

1164
00:55:55,453 --> 00:55:57,573
Speaker 2: point of view isn't that it's being Marcho and it's

1165
00:55:57,733 --> 00:56:00,173
Speaker 2: manning up. I'm saying it's you reach out to the

1166
00:56:00,253 --> 00:56:01,973
Speaker 2: rails you have in your life to hold on to,

1167
00:56:02,133 --> 00:56:05,013
Speaker 2: and one of those things is your employment. And you know,

1168
00:56:05,453 --> 00:56:08,973
Speaker 2: work isn't just the way you make money. Those are

1169
00:56:08,973 --> 00:56:10,373
Speaker 2: the people that you spend a lot of time with

1170
00:56:10,413 --> 00:56:12,493
Speaker 2: and being around them, and being around other people is

1171
00:56:12,533 --> 00:56:14,172
Speaker 2: really really important. When you go through.

1172
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:19,733
Speaker 21: Family, yeah, well you know, absolutely we forget about that.

1173
00:56:20,653 --> 00:56:23,252
Speaker 4: Get care for you like your family.

1174
00:56:23,493 --> 00:56:26,333
Speaker 2: So if you can go around and be with people, yeah,

1175
00:56:26,853 --> 00:56:28,893
Speaker 2: so much, Vicky. But yeah, if you, if if you also,

1176
00:56:29,013 --> 00:56:31,333
Speaker 2: if you, I'm not saying don't reach out and don't

1177
00:56:31,333 --> 00:56:34,933
Speaker 2: be vulnerable to your family and friends. Absolutely, But I

1178
00:56:35,013 --> 00:56:37,413
Speaker 2: just I think keep your dignity and look for the

1179
00:56:37,493 --> 00:56:39,252
Speaker 2: rails in your life, the things that you can hold

1180
00:56:39,293 --> 00:56:40,853
Speaker 2: on to, the things that you can be proud of

1181
00:56:40,893 --> 00:56:41,652
Speaker 2: and move forward with.

1182
00:56:41,813 --> 00:56:41,933
Speaker 6: Well.

1183
00:56:41,973 --> 00:56:45,493
Speaker 3: The other question is is it your employer's issue? For

1184
00:56:45,613 --> 00:56:49,652
Speaker 3: lack of a better word that how much does your

1185
00:56:49,653 --> 00:56:51,692
Speaker 3: employer come into the issues that you're having in your

1186
00:56:51,733 --> 00:56:53,652
Speaker 3: personal life? Because that's what it comes down to. A

1187
00:56:53,693 --> 00:56:57,413
Speaker 3: lot now that as an employer they now have to

1188
00:56:57,613 --> 00:57:00,253
Speaker 3: consider the mental health and I think that's a good thing.

1189
00:57:00,333 --> 00:57:02,733
Speaker 3: Or a manager they now have to consider what's going

1190
00:57:02,773 --> 00:57:06,253
Speaker 3: on outside of the office for that and they nearly

1191
00:57:06,253 --> 00:57:06,533
Speaker 3: all do.

1192
00:57:06,653 --> 00:57:07,373
Speaker 2: They nearly all do.

1193
00:57:07,573 --> 00:57:10,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, But how much responsibility does the employer have to

1194
00:57:10,773 --> 00:57:12,773
Speaker 3: their their employees home life?

1195
00:57:12,933 --> 00:57:15,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in small companies definitely. If you're going to

1196
00:57:15,333 --> 00:57:17,013
Speaker 2: site and you're getting picked up by your boss in

1197
00:57:17,093 --> 00:57:21,493
Speaker 2: the van and you go to him, look, I'm going

1198
00:57:21,493 --> 00:57:23,373
Speaker 2: through a bit of a tough time and the drive

1199
00:57:23,413 --> 00:57:26,893
Speaker 2: to work. In those situations, I guarantee that that most

1200
00:57:27,013 --> 00:57:30,093
Speaker 2: bosses in New Zealand would would be sympathetic to it,

1201
00:57:30,333 --> 00:57:32,453
Speaker 2: but also go good on your mate. You turned up

1202
00:57:32,453 --> 00:57:35,813
Speaker 2: to work and then then they'd really really appreciate you.

1203
00:57:36,373 --> 00:57:37,733
Speaker 3: Cameron, what's your take on it.

1204
00:57:39,253 --> 00:57:42,413
Speaker 19: Well, I've been self employed for fifty years, and my

1205
00:57:42,573 --> 00:57:46,573
Speaker 19: take on it is that okay stuff even five days

1206
00:57:46,573 --> 00:57:50,413
Speaker 19: off for a bit of a marriage best breakup, and

1207
00:57:50,573 --> 00:57:54,453
Speaker 19: I would say, I'm flipping the coin and oh, hey, guys,

1208
00:57:55,013 --> 00:57:58,093
Speaker 19: I've had a bit of a merriage breakup and my

1209
00:57:58,133 --> 00:58:00,933
Speaker 19: wife's taking half the business. So I was just wondering

1210
00:58:00,973 --> 00:58:03,453
Speaker 19: if you guys would like to support me by working

1211
00:58:03,533 --> 00:58:05,093
Speaker 19: five days for nothing.

1212
00:58:05,813 --> 00:58:07,093
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yep.

1213
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:11,813
Speaker 19: It isn't that the same call in re Yeah.

1214
00:58:11,653 --> 00:58:15,373
Speaker 3: I suppose it is. Yeah, So for you, it's a

1215
00:58:15,373 --> 00:58:18,213
Speaker 3: step too far. I mean, all these these new days

1216
00:58:18,253 --> 00:58:21,173
Speaker 3: that are being offered to employees around the world, it's

1217
00:58:21,253 --> 00:58:23,893
Speaker 3: just it's too much that people need to take some

1218
00:58:23,933 --> 00:58:26,253
Speaker 3: self responsibility of things that are going on in their

1219
00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:28,133
Speaker 3: life and deal with it as best they can. But

1220
00:58:28,173 --> 00:58:29,293
Speaker 3: that can be sickly.

1221
00:58:29,453 --> 00:58:35,133
Speaker 6: For example, yeah, you will, you know, I mean in

1222
00:58:35,173 --> 00:58:37,253
Speaker 6: my day, I mean when I was when I was

1223
00:58:37,293 --> 00:58:37,933
Speaker 6: employing it.

1224
00:58:38,093 --> 00:58:42,733
Speaker 19: I mean, if I had something wrong, that was my time,

1225
00:58:42,853 --> 00:58:45,933
Speaker 19: private life. That was for me to fact, it wasn't

1226
00:58:45,933 --> 00:58:49,253
Speaker 19: my boss's responsibility to sort of you know, it could

1227
00:58:49,253 --> 00:58:52,813
Speaker 19: be a cuddle and a warm handshaken, you know, standard.

1228
00:58:52,893 --> 00:58:56,333
Speaker 2: And it's an interesting thing though, because we wouldn't we

1229
00:58:56,373 --> 00:58:59,933
Speaker 2: wouldn't think about that in terms of bereavementally though, would we.

1230
00:58:59,933 --> 00:59:03,573
Speaker 2: We'd go if if you've lost not no, no breving.

1231
00:59:03,933 --> 00:59:06,773
Speaker 2: So we do. We do believe that people can take

1232
00:59:06,853 --> 00:59:12,373
Speaker 2: time for emotional situations. I mean, bereavement leave does involve,

1233
00:59:12,453 --> 00:59:15,973
Speaker 2: you know, organizing the funeral and the you know, all

1234
00:59:16,013 --> 00:59:19,693
Speaker 2: the stuff that goes around someone passing. But you could say, well,

1235
00:59:19,773 --> 00:59:21,693
Speaker 2: I've got to you know, I've got to sort out

1236
00:59:21,693 --> 00:59:24,173
Speaker 2: some things around the house. I've got to I've got

1237
00:59:24,173 --> 00:59:25,933
Speaker 2: to get my stuff out of this house as soon

1238
00:59:25,973 --> 00:59:27,973
Speaker 2: as I can. I've come home, I found it with

1239
00:59:28,013 --> 00:59:29,693
Speaker 2: someone else. I've got to get all my stuff out

1240
00:59:29,693 --> 00:59:30,973
Speaker 2: of the house. I've got to go and speak to

1241
00:59:31,013 --> 00:59:33,933
Speaker 2: a lawyer. I need. I need three days for the admin.

1242
00:59:35,613 --> 00:59:40,093
Speaker 6: I'd say, so, you tell me, would he come to

1243
00:59:40,133 --> 00:59:42,213
Speaker 6: work on a Monday and say that so he wants

1244
00:59:42,213 --> 00:59:44,373
Speaker 6: the next three days off? Or would he say it

1245
00:59:44,413 --> 00:59:46,973
Speaker 6: on Friday morning? Look like I just have Friday off

1246
00:59:46,973 --> 00:59:48,733
Speaker 6: because I need three days, and I'll do it on

1247
00:59:48,773 --> 00:59:49,653
Speaker 6: the weekend as well.

1248
00:59:50,093 --> 00:59:52,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound like a good employer. I mean, if

1249
00:59:52,613 --> 00:59:54,213
Speaker 3: they came to and said it, well, I've gone through

1250
00:59:54,213 --> 00:59:56,053
Speaker 3: a mirror of a divorce and it's getting messy, and

1251
00:59:56,053 --> 00:59:58,013
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of things to sort out a house.

1252
00:59:58,053 --> 00:59:59,853
Speaker 3: It's going to get messy. What would you say as

1253
00:59:59,893 --> 01:00:01,533
Speaker 3: a boss, so I can give you one day and

1254
01:00:01,573 --> 01:00:03,293
Speaker 3: then maybe take a couple of days and you'll leave.

1255
01:00:04,373 --> 01:00:05,773
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah.

1256
01:00:05,853 --> 01:00:06,213
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1257
01:00:06,253 --> 01:00:09,093
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing for a self employed person because

1258
01:00:09,293 --> 01:00:11,853
Speaker 2: so you're going through a breakup and you've got to

1259
01:00:11,893 --> 01:00:15,093
Speaker 2: deal with other people. You know, you've got to deal

1260
01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:17,533
Speaker 2: with you know, your clients, you've got to deal with

1261
01:00:17,573 --> 01:00:20,813
Speaker 2: your accounts, and you've got to deal with being just

1262
01:00:21,133 --> 01:00:23,333
Speaker 2: at the call face making the money to pay the mortgage.

1263
01:00:23,373 --> 01:00:24,413
Speaker 3: You don't have a choice, don't.

1264
01:00:24,533 --> 01:00:27,333
Speaker 2: You can't wring yourself up and say I'm going to

1265
01:00:27,373 --> 01:00:29,253
Speaker 2: take two weeks off heartbreak.

1266
01:00:28,893 --> 01:00:31,613
Speaker 3: Leave, Thank you very much, Cameron. Oh, eight hundred and

1267
01:00:31,613 --> 01:00:33,933
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call keen on

1268
01:00:34,013 --> 01:00:38,533
Speaker 3: your thoughts. It's twenty eight past two US talks.

1269
01:00:38,533 --> 01:00:42,213
Speaker 16: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1270
01:00:42,253 --> 01:00:45,613
Speaker 16: with a blue bubble. Inflation is officially back to normal

1271
01:00:45,653 --> 01:00:48,693
Speaker 16: with the annual rate to September at two point two percent.

1272
01:00:49,293 --> 01:00:52,053
Speaker 16: Non tradable inflation is still much higher at four point

1273
01:00:52,213 --> 01:00:55,413
Speaker 16: nine and people are paying over twelve percent more than

1274
01:00:55,413 --> 01:00:59,853
Speaker 16: a year ago for rent rates and insurance. It's understood

1275
01:00:59,853 --> 01:01:02,533
Speaker 16: the government will soon lay out its intentions for capping

1276
01:01:02,613 --> 01:01:03,613
Speaker 16: sour charge.

1277
01:01:03,253 --> 01:01:05,133
Speaker 3: Fees for debit and credit cards.

1278
01:01:05,973 --> 01:01:09,493
Speaker 16: The police union isn't convinced gang laws coming into force

1279
01:01:09,613 --> 01:01:13,373
Speaker 16: next month will be smoothly implemented. The new parals ban

1280
01:01:13,493 --> 01:01:18,013
Speaker 16: and signia in public and let officers disperse gatherings. For

1281
01:01:18,253 --> 01:01:22,173
Speaker 16: Southlanders have been caught illegally white meeting outside regulated ours

1282
01:01:22,293 --> 01:01:26,653
Speaker 16: and their nets were seized. Wellington's mayor says councilors are

1283
01:01:26,693 --> 01:01:29,493
Speaker 16: working this afternoon on their long term plan and she

1284
01:01:29,533 --> 01:01:33,213
Speaker 16: has a meeting with the local government minister tomorrow. Torevano's

1285
01:01:33,293 --> 01:01:36,053
Speaker 16: told Arenz she wants to show Simmey and Brown the

1286
01:01:36,133 --> 01:01:40,853
Speaker 16: council will be fine. Who was duval, the key players

1287
01:01:40,893 --> 01:01:43,933
Speaker 16: and the collapsed property empire. You can read the full

1288
01:01:43,973 --> 01:01:48,133
Speaker 16: story at Enzen Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1289
01:01:47,733 --> 01:01:50,333
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. Twenty eight minutes to two.

1290
01:01:50,573 --> 01:01:53,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about heartbreak leave, which is being introduced

1291
01:01:53,773 --> 01:01:56,093
Speaker 2: in the Philippines where you can ring up your boss

1292
01:01:56,133 --> 01:01:59,213
Speaker 2: and say I've gone through a breakup, I want some

1293
01:01:59,293 --> 01:02:03,413
Speaker 2: time off YEAP, similar to Mental Health League. But in

1294
01:02:03,453 --> 01:02:05,653
Speaker 2: people are saying I'm being really much so with whether

1295
01:02:05,733 --> 01:02:07,693
Speaker 2: I'm saying here that I think that you should go

1296
01:02:07,733 --> 01:02:10,133
Speaker 2: to work if you've been through a heartbreak and bearing

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01:02:10,173 --> 01:02:13,933
Speaker 2: in mind whatever complicated complications around that. But that's not

1298
01:02:13,933 --> 01:02:16,613
Speaker 2: about being much so, I'm not saying that, and there's

1299
01:02:16,653 --> 01:02:19,773
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with being incredibly heartbroken, and that doesn't make

1300
01:02:19,813 --> 01:02:21,733
Speaker 2: you less of a man if you're incredibly heart broken,

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01:02:21,933 --> 01:02:26,613
Speaker 2: I'm just saying for your own personal good and your

1302
01:02:27,093 --> 01:02:29,333
Speaker 2: hopes of feeling better and dealing with your life and

1303
01:02:29,693 --> 01:02:32,973
Speaker 2: it not becoming a complete catastrophe, I'm saying, going to

1304
01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:35,413
Speaker 2: work and keeping the structures going in your life is

1305
01:02:35,453 --> 01:02:38,173
Speaker 2: the best possible thing you can do, and just keeping

1306
01:02:38,533 --> 01:02:43,013
Speaker 2: keeping in mind my dignity, keep being proud of doing

1307
01:02:43,053 --> 01:02:45,613
Speaker 2: things that make you proud of yourself, because if you've

1308
01:02:45,653 --> 01:02:48,893
Speaker 2: already lost someone and you're already heartbreaking and heartbroken, and

1309
01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:51,373
Speaker 2: you start doing things that make you not proud of yourself,

1310
01:02:51,653 --> 01:02:54,093
Speaker 2: then that makes it worse. And I think if you

1311
01:02:54,253 --> 01:02:56,573
Speaker 2: lean into work and you start achieving there or you

1312
01:02:56,693 --> 01:02:59,013
Speaker 2: go along. Not only do you have the structures of

1313
01:02:59,053 --> 01:03:02,053
Speaker 2: work and feel like that you're doing something for yourself,

1314
01:03:02,293 --> 01:03:05,413
Speaker 2: but also you're around people, and so I say, absolutely,

1315
01:03:05,453 --> 01:03:07,973
Speaker 2: rich out to your friends, Absolutely talk about it, but

1316
01:03:08,573 --> 01:03:11,453
Speaker 2: keep your dignity and hold onto those rails in life,

1317
01:03:11,493 --> 01:03:13,253
Speaker 2: things like your job. If you're lucky enough to have one.

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Speaker 3: Good clarification, Julie, how are you this afternoon, I'm well.

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Speaker 27: Thank you. I'd just like to say that this is

1320
01:03:22,813 --> 01:03:29,173
Speaker 27: a very bloke oriented angle. Yeah, and I don't think

1321
01:03:29,773 --> 01:03:33,653
Speaker 27: there's anything wrong with having a few days off. Yes,

1322
01:03:33,773 --> 01:03:37,893
Speaker 27: you might be heartbroken, but who else in the family

1323
01:03:38,653 --> 01:03:42,933
Speaker 27: need support? You may have children. You're not just going

1324
01:03:43,013 --> 01:03:46,013
Speaker 27: to break up and go back to work, because what

1325
01:03:46,133 --> 01:03:48,813
Speaker 27: are you offering to work if you're broken and you

1326
01:03:48,893 --> 01:03:52,053
Speaker 27: haven't sorted this out, and then you might have to

1327
01:03:52,093 --> 01:03:56,533
Speaker 27: move out. But the children come first, yea, and their

1328
01:03:56,653 --> 01:04:00,493
Speaker 27: sanity and their safety. So if you have a few

1329
01:04:00,573 --> 01:04:04,533
Speaker 27: days off to sort this out, get your head back together,

1330
01:04:05,093 --> 01:04:07,733
Speaker 27: then you go back to work. I'm sure you would

1331
01:04:07,733 --> 01:04:11,293
Speaker 27: be a better person to offer to your boss and

1332
01:04:11,373 --> 01:04:15,213
Speaker 27: not have the daily stuff of coming home that kids

1333
01:04:15,213 --> 01:04:19,573
Speaker 27: are upset, your wife's angry and I think this is

1334
01:04:19,613 --> 01:04:21,453
Speaker 27: a pretty blokey conversation.

1335
01:04:21,773 --> 01:04:24,093
Speaker 2: Well, it certainly is. I mean, we're both blokes, so

1336
01:04:24,133 --> 01:04:26,333
Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming in and giving us

1337
01:04:26,373 --> 01:04:28,893
Speaker 2: the female perspective on it. But I would say, in

1338
01:04:28,973 --> 01:04:30,893
Speaker 2: terms of things you can be proud of and dignity

1339
01:04:31,373 --> 01:04:33,693
Speaker 2: and a breakup, the way you look after your children

1340
01:04:33,773 --> 01:04:35,373
Speaker 2: is something that you could hang your hat on. And

1341
01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:38,693
Speaker 2: if you if you make the assessment that what you

1342
01:04:38,733 --> 01:04:42,013
Speaker 2: can do best in life is for your children and

1343
01:04:42,053 --> 01:04:43,813
Speaker 2: be there for them in the breakup and do what's

1344
01:04:43,853 --> 01:04:45,653
Speaker 2: right for them, I would say that that was something

1345
01:04:45,653 --> 01:04:49,253
Speaker 2: that you could feel proud of and as I say,

1346
01:04:49,253 --> 01:04:52,573
Speaker 2: hang your hat on. In terms of dealing with the breakup.

1347
01:04:53,253 --> 01:04:56,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, no, but I hear what you're saying, Julia.

1348
01:04:56,533 --> 01:04:58,173
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, thank you very much. But when

1349
01:04:58,213 --> 01:05:03,373
Speaker 3: it comes to divorce and these children involved, and you know,

1350
01:05:03,493 --> 01:05:06,373
Speaker 3: they are incredibly devastating things for a lot of people

1351
01:05:06,413 --> 01:05:08,293
Speaker 3: to go through, not even'body, but a lot of people.

1352
01:05:08,893 --> 01:05:13,213
Speaker 3: And you know, my own parents divorced when I was eleven,

1353
01:05:13,213 --> 01:05:15,333
Speaker 3: and that was an incredibly tough time for both of them.

1354
01:05:15,413 --> 01:05:17,533
Speaker 3: They tried to shield us kids as much as they

1355
01:05:17,533 --> 01:05:18,773
Speaker 3: could and they did a pretty good job.

1356
01:05:18,813 --> 01:05:20,573
Speaker 2: How was it for you, Tyler, if you don't mind

1357
01:05:20,573 --> 01:05:21,013
Speaker 2: me asking.

1358
01:05:21,093 --> 01:05:25,213
Speaker 3: Devastating, evastating for the family. Yeah, and it was a

1359
01:05:25,213 --> 01:05:27,613
Speaker 3: little bit missy, and that was nobody's fault. And it

1360
01:05:27,653 --> 01:05:30,853
Speaker 3: wasn't anybody's fault that the parents decided to split up.

1361
01:05:31,013 --> 01:05:34,133
Speaker 3: And they get on well now they get on okay,

1362
01:05:34,373 --> 01:05:36,413
Speaker 3: But it was it was tough years and I think

1363
01:05:36,493 --> 01:05:39,093
Speaker 3: Dady was running his own sparky firm electrician firm at

1364
01:05:39,093 --> 01:05:41,493
Speaker 3: the time. He tried to push through ended up having

1365
01:05:41,493 --> 01:05:42,453
Speaker 3: to take a few days off.

1366
01:05:42,973 --> 01:05:44,133
Speaker 2: Kewy Fruit involved as well.

1367
01:05:44,413 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was yep, we had a Kiwi fruit orchard

1368
01:05:46,533 --> 01:05:48,613
Speaker 3: and that needed to be sold, so that was stressful.

1369
01:05:48,653 --> 01:05:51,453
Speaker 3: They were well, they had plans to turn it into

1370
01:05:51,493 --> 01:05:55,333
Speaker 3: an olive orchard and never quite got to that point,

1371
01:05:55,453 --> 01:05:57,973
Speaker 3: so they made a big loss on that orchard. It

1372
01:05:58,013 --> 01:06:00,173
Speaker 3: was thirteen acres, so that was losing a lot of money.

1373
01:06:00,213 --> 01:06:03,173
Speaker 3: Dadd had to keep running his business. Mum was self

1374
01:06:03,213 --> 01:06:06,773
Speaker 3: employed as well as a contractor. So it was incredibly

1375
01:06:06,853 --> 01:06:08,093
Speaker 3: tough and love.

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01:06:08,133 --> 01:06:10,973
Speaker 2: It and as a parent going through a breakup, if

1377
01:06:11,013 --> 01:06:14,253
Speaker 2: you could look back and go, I did right by

1378
01:06:14,253 --> 01:06:17,013
Speaker 2: my kids, then that's something you can feel very proud

1379
01:06:17,053 --> 01:06:21,333
Speaker 2: of and obviously that is the most important thing. Yeah,

1380
01:06:21,373 --> 01:06:23,733
Speaker 2: so then that is part of as I said, that's

1381
01:06:23,733 --> 01:06:25,253
Speaker 2: part of the dignity thing, isn't it.

1382
01:06:25,333 --> 01:06:28,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good call eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1383
01:06:28,373 --> 01:06:31,653
Speaker 3: the number to call. It is twenty three to three.

1384
01:06:31,973 --> 01:06:34,053
Speaker 2: I've got a question for you nine two nine two.

1385
01:06:34,773 --> 01:06:37,573
Speaker 2: What do you think who is more likely to instigate

1386
01:06:37,613 --> 01:06:40,453
Speaker 2: a divorce? Males or females?

1387
01:06:40,573 --> 01:06:42,373
Speaker 3: We'll get the answer very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Matteeth, Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred

1389
01:06:47,013 --> 01:06:51,013
Speaker 1: and eighty eight Matteth and Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoon to you. It is twenty

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01:06:54,253 --> 01:06:56,653
Speaker 3: to three. And before the brain Keith, you had a

1392
01:06:56,693 --> 01:06:58,213
Speaker 3: wee bit of a tease for the audience.

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01:06:58,533 --> 01:07:01,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, who is more likely to instigate a divorce? Males

1394
01:07:02,093 --> 01:07:04,813
Speaker 2: or females? I don't have the New Zealand figures, but

1395
01:07:04,853 --> 01:07:09,653
Speaker 2: I've got two other similar countries. In the US females

1396
01:07:09,773 --> 01:07:13,653
Speaker 2: instigate divorce right in the UK sixty two percent females.

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01:07:13,813 --> 01:07:15,773
Speaker 3: And what was the key reason did they say that?

1398
01:07:15,813 --> 01:07:18,213
Speaker 2: Well, there's a number of reasons. Obviously there's some real

1399
01:07:18,253 --> 01:07:19,733
Speaker 2: dickheads that people need to get away.

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Speaker 3: From the they can.

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01:07:20,773 --> 01:07:23,213
Speaker 2: That's a big part of it. Interestingly, in the States,

1402
01:07:24,053 --> 01:07:28,013
Speaker 2: the woman becoming more wealthy than the man, or more

1403
01:07:28,013 --> 01:07:31,533
Speaker 2: successful in business, it will often lead I'm not sure why,

1404
01:07:31,613 --> 01:07:35,413
Speaker 2: but it will lead to the female going now not

1405
01:07:35,493 --> 01:07:36,653
Speaker 2: into you anymore.

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01:07:36,253 --> 01:07:38,453
Speaker 3: And tristing George, how are you this afternoon?

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01:07:39,453 --> 01:07:41,533
Speaker 26: Oh, I'm very good. I'm sitting on my dig I've

1408
01:07:41,533 --> 01:07:44,813
Speaker 26: got bushfall around me. Whose sky I'm watching about four

1409
01:07:44,853 --> 01:07:47,893
Speaker 26: two yes lining up to drink off a toy feeder.

1410
01:07:47,973 --> 01:07:51,813
Speaker 3: You're a good man, beautiful.

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01:07:50,893 --> 01:07:55,053
Speaker 26: So that's what I'm getting at is that's some mental

1412
01:07:55,373 --> 01:07:59,693
Speaker 26: just serenity, peacefulness. The window is gently blowing and you're

1413
01:07:59,733 --> 01:08:03,413
Speaker 26: discussing the issue. Is that are mental stress? And I

1414
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:06,853
Speaker 26: think this is really interesting. Now I've got two points.

1415
01:08:07,053 --> 01:08:07,293
Speaker 6: One.

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01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:11,093
Speaker 26: When I was eighteen, I had a very lovely girlfriend

1417
01:08:11,133 --> 01:08:14,413
Speaker 26: who decided to give me back my friendship friendship ring

1418
01:08:14,453 --> 01:08:17,933
Speaker 26: i'd given a gold ring I decided to like many more.

1419
01:08:18,293 --> 01:08:21,293
Speaker 26: Now that goes down the same path as when I

1420
01:08:21,333 --> 01:08:24,692
Speaker 26: was married many many years later, and it will split

1421
01:08:24,772 --> 01:08:28,892
Speaker 26: up d you to just circumstances. Both were disasters, but

1422
01:08:28,973 --> 01:08:32,932
Speaker 26: the first one really set my mindset about handling an

1423
01:08:33,053 --> 01:08:38,333
Speaker 26: issue of personal stress. Now, does this mean that schools

1424
01:08:38,372 --> 01:08:41,452
Speaker 26: are also going to allow time off for kids who

1425
01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:46,933
Speaker 26: break up with their girlfriends or boyfriends on Facebook? You

1426
01:08:46,973 --> 01:08:49,812
Speaker 26: know this is a mental stress issue that you're talking about,

1427
01:08:50,173 --> 01:08:52,333
Speaker 26: and when it comes to families. Yes, there's a whole

1428
01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:56,732
Speaker 26: range of circumstances for people. I had to I was

1429
01:08:56,772 --> 01:08:59,732
Speaker 26: self employed. I was running my own business. I couldn't

1430
01:08:59,732 --> 01:09:02,013
Speaker 26: take time off because I had to attend to my

1431
01:09:02,093 --> 01:09:04,772
Speaker 26: customer's needs. They weren't going to say, oh, no, you

1432
01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:07,892
Speaker 26: don't need to come when my computer'sn't working anymore because

1433
01:09:07,933 --> 01:09:10,612
Speaker 26: you have you split up. I went to Social Welfare.

1434
01:09:10,692 --> 01:09:12,852
Speaker 26: I sat down with them. I said, what can you

1435
01:09:12,893 --> 01:09:17,452
Speaker 26: do because I now kicked out the house, And they said,

1436
01:09:17,572 --> 01:09:19,572
Speaker 26: I want you to keep working. I want you to

1437
01:09:19,612 --> 01:09:22,572
Speaker 26: focus on your work. I want you to focus on

1438
01:09:22,652 --> 01:09:25,612
Speaker 26: normal life. I want you to have your head in

1439
01:09:25,652 --> 01:09:29,333
Speaker 26: a normal space while you handle this. So I'm going

1440
01:09:29,333 --> 01:09:33,333
Speaker 26: with Matt on this. He is actually saying the right things.

1441
01:09:33,853 --> 01:09:36,652
Speaker 26: You can't just sit home and mope because you'll just

1442
01:09:36,692 --> 01:09:40,253
Speaker 26: go down the rabbit hole. And when you split up

1443
01:09:40,253 --> 01:09:43,372
Speaker 26: with someone, there's a rabbit hole and it gets very

1444
01:09:43,452 --> 01:09:45,572
Speaker 26: dark for a while. And you hope you get out

1445
01:09:45,572 --> 01:09:47,652
Speaker 26: the other end of the tunnel and you start to

1446
01:09:47,652 --> 01:09:50,572
Speaker 26: see normal daylight again. So there's a whole lot of issues.

1447
01:09:50,612 --> 01:09:54,012
Speaker 26: But do we add this day that you are now promoting,

1448
01:09:54,053 --> 01:09:57,692
Speaker 26: because that's what you're doing to the pet bereavement day.

1449
01:09:58,173 --> 01:10:00,852
Speaker 26: For the way you discussed it on the radio a

1450
01:10:00,893 --> 01:10:03,372
Speaker 26: few weeks back. I'm told you to God to do

1451
01:10:03,492 --> 01:10:06,812
Speaker 26: matter IQI now divorce day.

1452
01:10:08,333 --> 01:10:10,933
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, Tyler and George, when my

1453
01:10:11,053 --> 01:10:17,532
Speaker 2: dog Colin passes, I won't be here. Genuinely though, I

1454
01:10:17,572 --> 01:10:19,253
Speaker 2: worry every day every day I see Colin.

1455
01:10:19,532 --> 01:10:21,372
Speaker 3: He's getting older every day.

1456
01:10:22,013 --> 01:10:27,372
Speaker 26: Are we going to also have the America's Cup Lost Day?

1457
01:10:27,652 --> 01:10:30,412
Speaker 28: The Cup day we go?

1458
01:10:30,532 --> 01:10:32,172
Speaker 3: But genuinely, Georgie looked.

1459
01:10:34,372 --> 01:10:35,572
Speaker 2: I probably needed a day off.

1460
01:10:35,732 --> 01:10:38,213
Speaker 3: That absolutely, But George, you know we used to. We

1461
01:10:38,213 --> 01:10:40,612
Speaker 3: had our first rescue, Cecy, and we only had her

1462
01:10:40,652 --> 01:10:42,253
Speaker 3: a couple of years. She was an old dog when

1463
01:10:42,253 --> 01:10:44,133
Speaker 3: we got her. I think you know that. And when

1464
01:10:44,213 --> 01:10:47,933
Speaker 3: set and passed, that was genuinely a devastating day from me.

1465
01:10:47,933 --> 01:10:49,452
Speaker 3: Even talking about it now makes me tear up a

1466
01:10:49,452 --> 01:10:52,252
Speaker 3: little bit because she was the goodest of good dogs.

1467
01:10:52,692 --> 01:10:55,412
Speaker 3: Want that and but I got water in the face.

1468
01:10:55,412 --> 01:10:56,013
Speaker 2: They're good on you.

1469
01:10:56,213 --> 01:10:58,572
Speaker 3: I did show you, guys.

1470
01:10:59,173 --> 01:11:05,612
Speaker 26: We had this beautiful bishon frees Aussie Terrier cross, most

1471
01:11:05,652 --> 01:11:09,013
Speaker 26: amazing dog that I bought that would run longer than

1472
01:11:09,053 --> 01:11:11,452
Speaker 26: what the kids could in the day, and it would

1473
01:11:11,452 --> 01:11:14,013
Speaker 26: still be going, come on, guys, your stuff, But I'm not.

1474
01:11:14,893 --> 01:11:17,052
Speaker 26: It got old enough that we had to put it down.

1475
01:11:17,173 --> 01:11:19,772
Speaker 26: So I went to the vet with the dog and

1476
01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:23,372
Speaker 26: the kids, and I took the afternoon off to go

1477
01:11:23,412 --> 01:11:25,612
Speaker 26: and put the dog down with the kids, and everybody

1478
01:11:25,612 --> 01:11:28,093
Speaker 26: said goodbye to the dog at the same time while

1479
01:11:28,093 --> 01:11:31,253
Speaker 26: they injected it, and then we brought the body home. Now,

1480
01:11:31,333 --> 01:11:35,813
Speaker 26: that is a devastating time to Yes, there is acknowledgement

1481
01:11:35,893 --> 01:11:39,452
Speaker 26: for all this, but you do have annual leave, you

1482
01:11:39,532 --> 01:11:42,812
Speaker 26: do have sick leave which you can take for these issues.

1483
01:11:43,053 --> 01:11:47,093
Speaker 26: Why do an employer now expect to carry the additional

1484
01:11:47,133 --> 01:11:50,492
Speaker 26: expense even if you're not paying for them. You've lost

1485
01:11:50,532 --> 01:11:54,572
Speaker 26: that production from the worker for that day or four days,

1486
01:11:55,013 --> 01:11:58,933
Speaker 26: you know. And we just came going on about productivity

1487
01:11:59,013 --> 01:12:02,532
Speaker 26: in the country, and we kept giving productivity away. That's

1488
01:12:02,572 --> 01:12:03,293
Speaker 26: all I'm getting to.

1489
01:12:03,853 --> 01:12:05,652
Speaker 2: Well and interesting for me, and this might be a

1490
01:12:05,652 --> 01:12:08,692
Speaker 2: bit personal, but when my why not be per snore.

1491
01:12:09,253 --> 01:12:13,173
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I be? But when my my lovely mum died,

1492
01:12:13,452 --> 01:12:15,053
Speaker 2: and you know, she was the most important person in

1493
01:12:15,053 --> 01:12:18,652
Speaker 2: the world to me. When she died suddenly and she

1494
01:12:18,732 --> 01:12:21,133
Speaker 2: was at the other end of the country, and my

1495
01:12:21,492 --> 01:12:25,372
Speaker 2: dad rang up and you know, looking at what flights

1496
01:12:25,412 --> 01:12:28,333
Speaker 2: I could get down, he said, go to work and

1497
01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:30,932
Speaker 2: then come in and then get their first flight down.

1498
01:12:30,973 --> 01:12:32,652
Speaker 2: You can after that. And he didn't mean that in

1499
01:12:32,732 --> 01:12:36,093
Speaker 2: terms of you know, hard and up or anything that

1500
01:12:36,133 --> 01:12:38,652
Speaker 2: he thought that me going into work would be instead

1501
01:12:38,652 --> 01:12:41,053
Speaker 2: of sitting at home, I'd go to work and then

1502
01:12:41,213 --> 01:12:43,133
Speaker 2: I could I'd fly down. So I was with people,

1503
01:12:43,812 --> 01:12:46,093
Speaker 2: And that's really what I'm saying. I'm saying it was

1504
01:12:46,133 --> 01:12:51,532
Speaker 2: hard to do, and I blubbed on here, but it

1505
01:12:51,572 --> 01:12:54,293
Speaker 2: was It wasn't about being being hard. It was about

1506
01:12:54,293 --> 01:12:59,692
Speaker 2: being around people and doing something and keeping those structures in.

1507
01:12:58,492 --> 01:13:01,973
Speaker 3: My life as a support structures as a.

1508
01:13:01,973 --> 01:13:04,412
Speaker 2: Way to get through to the you know, the flight

1509
01:13:04,492 --> 01:13:08,533
Speaker 2: down and moving into the funeral stage of things. So

1510
01:13:08,532 --> 01:13:10,972
Speaker 2: so that you know, and I'm so glad I did

1511
01:13:11,692 --> 01:13:14,372
Speaker 2: go work this morning that morning, because you know, people

1512
01:13:14,652 --> 01:13:17,053
Speaker 2: you're often if you're lucky enough, then your work can

1513
01:13:17,093 --> 01:13:19,612
Speaker 2: also be a sort of an extension of your.

1514
01:13:19,492 --> 01:13:23,213
Speaker 3: Family, nicely said Carrie, how are you, Tyle?

1515
01:13:23,732 --> 01:13:24,652
Speaker 26: What Taylor should?

1516
01:13:24,652 --> 01:13:31,133
Speaker 29: I says? I think we're going off topic a little

1517
01:13:31,133 --> 01:13:34,412
Speaker 29: bit today. You know. It's there's so much lead at

1518
01:13:34,412 --> 01:13:38,333
Speaker 29: the moment. But we do have ten days mental stress days,

1519
01:13:38,812 --> 01:13:41,253
Speaker 29: and surely that would come under that kind of a thing.

1520
01:13:41,293 --> 01:13:43,532
Speaker 29: But but if you were going to do it, you

1521
01:13:43,692 --> 01:13:45,852
Speaker 29: want to do it on like a Wednesday or a Monday,

1522
01:13:45,853 --> 01:13:48,333
Speaker 29: wouldn't you, So you could have a really long, bloody weekend.

1523
01:13:49,732 --> 01:13:52,213
Speaker 2: Do it like the teacher the other teachers down Friday.

1524
01:13:53,293 --> 01:13:57,012
Speaker 29: The other thing is that the end of the day,

1525
01:13:57,652 --> 01:13:59,612
Speaker 29: things happened for a reason. Like I've had a lot

1526
01:13:59,612 --> 01:14:04,372
Speaker 29: of partners and thought I was and loved, but I

1527
01:14:04,452 --> 01:14:08,692
Speaker 29: obviously wasn't. And I'm a real big believer in things

1528
01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:11,132
Speaker 29: happening for a reason. And I've been with my partner

1529
01:14:11,452 --> 01:14:14,492
Speaker 29: for twenty five years and I had to kiss a

1530
01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:15,972
Speaker 29: lot of frogs to find my princess.

1531
01:14:16,812 --> 01:14:18,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeap.

1532
01:14:18,173 --> 01:14:23,172
Speaker 2: Very good. Well, Well that's I mean, it's not helpful

1533
01:14:23,173 --> 01:14:25,372
Speaker 2: when you break up for someone to say, wow, there's

1534
01:14:25,372 --> 01:14:26,812
Speaker 2: plenty of other fish in the sea, because it doesn't

1535
01:14:26,812 --> 01:14:31,253
Speaker 2: seem like there is. Yeah, but arguably it's true. Yeah,

1536
01:14:31,372 --> 01:14:33,253
Speaker 2: and things you may look back and go, well, that

1537
01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:33,812
Speaker 2: was a good thing.

1538
01:14:33,973 --> 01:14:34,133
Speaker 6: You know.

1539
01:14:34,452 --> 01:14:36,412
Speaker 3: Good call Kerry, nice to check mate. We've got to

1540
01:14:36,452 --> 01:14:38,812
Speaker 3: take a break. It is thirteen minutes to three.

1541
01:14:40,213 --> 01:14:42,572
Speaker 13: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1542
01:14:42,652 --> 01:14:43,293
Speaker 13: along the way.

1543
01:14:43,492 --> 01:14:47,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty four.

1544
01:14:47,412 --> 01:14:50,372
Speaker 13: You talk said be News Talks B.

1545
01:14:50,452 --> 01:14:53,213
Speaker 3: We're talking about the idea of heartbreak leave. It's going

1546
01:14:53,213 --> 01:14:56,293
Speaker 3: through parliament in the Philippines. Five days off per year.

1547
01:14:56,333 --> 01:14:59,412
Speaker 3: If you have a bad breakup, good idea or bad idea? Glenn,

1548
01:14:59,492 --> 01:15:00,092
Speaker 3: what do you reckon?

1549
01:15:01,732 --> 01:15:04,933
Speaker 30: I'm probably in the same campers as matte another and

1550
01:15:05,692 --> 01:15:07,653
Speaker 30: as much as I think you should keep your routines

1551
01:15:07,732 --> 01:15:12,892
Speaker 30: going rather than mope, although I had understand that brackets

1552
01:15:12,893 --> 01:15:17,213
Speaker 30: can get messy. A situation where I worked with the

1553
01:15:17,253 --> 01:15:21,612
Speaker 30: bloke some years ago and his relationship relationship had fallen apart,

1554
01:15:22,372 --> 01:15:25,652
Speaker 30: and he was married, well married with kids, and she

1555
01:15:25,812 --> 01:15:28,932
Speaker 30: decided to move back to Waddington, and so I'd been

1556
01:15:28,973 --> 01:15:31,572
Speaker 30: pre arranged that one month's time at work she would

1557
01:15:31,612 --> 01:15:33,572
Speaker 30: come in with the kids so he could say his goodbyes.

1558
01:15:34,732 --> 01:15:37,012
Speaker 30: And you know that poor guy. He walked back into

1559
01:15:37,053 --> 01:15:40,092
Speaker 30: work so forlorn. He was sort of holding back tears.

1560
01:15:41,013 --> 01:15:42,852
Speaker 30: You know, he was trying to at the same time

1561
01:15:42,933 --> 01:15:47,932
Speaker 30: he was stoic and blokey. So you know, I would

1562
01:15:47,933 --> 01:15:50,213
Speaker 30: have thought of that situation, he could have spent time

1563
01:15:50,253 --> 01:15:54,612
Speaker 30: with the kids or you know, yeah, because his focus

1564
01:15:54,612 --> 01:15:55,973
Speaker 30: would have been totally elsewhere.

1565
01:15:57,093 --> 01:15:59,293
Speaker 2: Did you how did you deal with that? Glean? Did

1566
01:15:59,333 --> 01:16:02,333
Speaker 2: you did you go past shoulder or anything.

1567
01:16:02,333 --> 01:16:05,213
Speaker 30: I felt like I felt like crying for the black

1568
01:16:05,253 --> 01:16:07,093
Speaker 30: of town, like he was crying on the inside. Did

1569
01:16:07,133 --> 01:16:09,772
Speaker 30: He was all stoic bloke having a little bit of

1570
01:16:09,812 --> 01:16:10,173
Speaker 30: a laugh.

1571
01:16:13,133 --> 01:16:13,253
Speaker 6: You know.

1572
01:16:13,293 --> 01:16:17,052
Speaker 30: I think we encouraged that we have you needed anything,

1573
01:16:17,133 --> 01:16:21,692
Speaker 30: call of us. We were available. You know, it'd since

1574
01:16:21,772 --> 01:16:24,133
Speaker 30: we've done and gotten to another relationship as lot of

1575
01:16:24,213 --> 01:16:30,412
Speaker 30: guys do. But that particular time he could you know,

1576
01:16:30,532 --> 01:16:32,133
Speaker 30: his focus was totally elsewhere.

1577
01:16:32,452 --> 01:16:35,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, but as good he had you there, Glenn. You

1578
01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:37,652
Speaker 3: know that you were an important support structure as life.

1579
01:16:38,333 --> 01:16:41,253
Speaker 30: I mean, we're young blokes ourselves, and we're all about

1580
01:16:41,293 --> 01:16:44,293
Speaker 30: sort of chasing women. And this is going back about

1581
01:16:44,293 --> 01:16:47,692
Speaker 30: thirty years ago, back in the nineties, so you know

1582
01:16:48,133 --> 01:16:50,053
Speaker 30: the news is I really felt for the guard and

1583
01:16:50,093 --> 01:16:51,492
Speaker 30: I told one of our I think one of my

1584
01:16:51,572 --> 01:16:55,652
Speaker 30: female supervisors, and she, yeah, she was quite a ghast

1585
01:16:55,652 --> 01:16:56,372
Speaker 30: of what had happened.

1586
01:16:57,692 --> 01:17:00,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, so rough when kids are involved, and if kids

1587
01:17:00,532 --> 01:17:02,532
Speaker 2: got taken away from you as well as the breakup,

1588
01:17:02,612 --> 01:17:05,093
Speaker 2: that that's pretty rough. Here, care that is pretty rough

1589
01:17:05,093 --> 01:17:06,932
Speaker 2: when they go through a breakup and then the kids

1590
01:17:06,933 --> 01:17:08,612
Speaker 2: get moved to another another city.

1591
01:17:09,772 --> 01:17:12,293
Speaker 3: You're starting to change your mind on this heartbreak leave

1592
01:17:12,372 --> 01:17:13,892
Speaker 3: while that's slightly different, isn't it.

1593
01:17:14,093 --> 01:17:16,492
Speaker 2: No, I mean because I'm not talking about it from

1594
01:17:16,572 --> 01:17:20,492
Speaker 2: anyone's point of view except for your own, and their

1595
01:17:20,612 --> 01:17:24,852
Speaker 2: routine is helpful. Sometimes you need other things to be doing,

1596
01:17:25,692 --> 01:17:27,652
Speaker 2: and that doesn't mean you're not facing it.

1597
01:17:28,093 --> 01:17:30,692
Speaker 3: But I'm not about taking a concrete It's it's about

1598
01:17:30,732 --> 01:17:33,732
Speaker 3: leaning into those support structures in your life. And for you,

1599
01:17:33,732 --> 01:17:36,653
Speaker 3: you've been very lucky that those support structures have existed

1600
01:17:37,013 --> 01:17:37,812
Speaker 3: in your workplace.

1601
01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:39,892
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the other thing I would say is that

1602
01:17:40,333 --> 01:17:42,213
Speaker 2: everyone thinks the best idea, and a few people suggest

1603
01:17:42,213 --> 01:17:43,612
Speaker 2: it is that you get some beers with your mates

1604
01:17:43,652 --> 01:17:47,053
Speaker 2: and go out and hopefully meet someone else. If you

1605
01:17:47,053 --> 01:17:50,012
Speaker 2: could possibly not do that drinking side of it, because

1606
01:17:50,253 --> 01:17:52,652
Speaker 2: there's one thing going for a breakup, then not going

1607
01:17:52,692 --> 01:17:54,932
Speaker 2: to work because you're having a heartbreak day that they've

1608
01:17:55,013 --> 01:17:56,973
Speaker 2: reached out to it to your boss and got and

1609
01:17:57,013 --> 01:18:00,333
Speaker 2: then you've got a raging hangover full of the anxiety,

1610
01:18:00,933 --> 01:18:04,852
Speaker 2: anxiety and anxiety that you get from a hangover. I mean,

1611
01:18:04,893 --> 01:18:06,892
Speaker 2: in the perfect world, you'd go, Okay, I'm just going

1612
01:18:06,933 --> 01:18:10,013
Speaker 2: to lean into my work, get through this and and

1613
01:18:10,492 --> 01:18:14,173
Speaker 2: not get absolutely steamed to deal with because they're hiding

1614
01:18:14,173 --> 01:18:17,333
Speaker 2: from it. But yeah, in the past, I've sodenly leant

1615
01:18:17,333 --> 01:18:19,932
Speaker 2: into the the having a few beers option to deal

1616
01:18:19,973 --> 01:18:20,372
Speaker 2: with things.

1617
01:18:20,452 --> 01:18:21,812
Speaker 3: As you do, les, how are you?

1618
01:18:22,893 --> 01:18:25,293
Speaker 22: I just thought I had to light and relief up

1619
01:18:25,372 --> 01:18:29,892
Speaker 22: because I lost my husband not terribly long ago, and

1620
01:18:29,933 --> 01:18:34,532
Speaker 22: I actually teach our music by bad so I had

1621
01:18:34,532 --> 01:18:38,492
Speaker 22: to go to teach my normal class at school and

1622
01:18:38,532 --> 01:18:40,892
Speaker 22: I got these lots of little boys came in and

1623
01:18:40,973 --> 01:18:46,173
Speaker 22: they said to me, oh, Ruthie, it's so sad we're here.

1624
01:18:46,293 --> 01:18:49,452
Speaker 22: Your father died and I said that was the word

1625
01:18:49,572 --> 01:18:52,093
Speaker 22: it was my husband. I said, do you so now,

1626
01:18:52,173 --> 01:18:56,652
Speaker 22: And I said, well, we don't we understand, Ruthie because

1627
01:18:56,853 --> 01:18:59,933
Speaker 22: he was in the ground. Because my goldfirst died and

1628
01:19:00,093 --> 01:19:01,973
Speaker 22: I had to think of their hold and put them in.

1629
01:19:03,253 --> 01:19:07,133
Speaker 22: I never forgotten about. I've never forgotten because it was

1630
01:19:07,213 --> 01:19:11,492
Speaker 22: such light relief. With that, I realized that you just

1631
01:19:11,572 --> 01:19:12,532
Speaker 22: still have to get on.

1632
01:19:12,893 --> 01:19:17,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I imagine you'd have struggled not to shed

1633
01:19:17,293 --> 01:19:19,133
Speaker 2: a few tears with that beautiful moment.

1634
01:19:20,372 --> 01:19:23,013
Speaker 22: I just couldn't get over it that I realized that,

1635
01:19:23,452 --> 01:19:26,053
Speaker 22: you know, for me, it was the way it was,

1636
01:19:26,093 --> 01:19:29,452
Speaker 22: and these little ones are understanding, and I just taught

1637
01:19:29,452 --> 01:19:35,253
Speaker 22: them and thought, oh, how beautiful. It's really in a

1638
01:19:35,333 --> 01:19:39,172
Speaker 22: way that we do have to hold a certain amount

1639
01:19:39,253 --> 01:19:44,492
Speaker 22: to us, because as we get older, we come to many, many, many,

1640
01:19:44,572 --> 01:19:48,293
Speaker 22: many things, and we can't go out and make the

1641
01:19:48,293 --> 01:19:54,532
Speaker 22: whole world suffer, especially if you're in employment. Because I'm

1642
01:19:54,572 --> 01:19:57,973
Speaker 22: older now and I've been through some horrendous areas and

1643
01:19:58,053 --> 01:20:01,213
Speaker 22: I've stuck my hat on my head for teaching hat,

1644
01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:04,133
Speaker 22: and I put it out the way because if no

1645
01:20:04,213 --> 01:20:07,293
Speaker 22: one else is a shoot of my own, you're.

1646
01:20:07,133 --> 01:20:07,972
Speaker 3: A beautiful person.

1647
01:20:07,973 --> 01:20:09,892
Speaker 2: Lis thanks so much for sharing that with us.

1648
01:20:09,933 --> 01:20:12,093
Speaker 3: I think that's a nice place to end a couple

1649
01:20:12,133 --> 01:20:14,412
Speaker 3: of texts. Then we've got a new topic on the way.

1650
01:20:14,412 --> 01:20:17,772
Speaker 3: Ghetto lads, what is next for businesses? Extra week holiday pay,

1651
01:20:17,893 --> 01:20:21,253
Speaker 3: extra week sick pay now treated like holidays with latest

1652
01:20:21,253 --> 01:20:24,293
Speaker 3: generations extra public holiday. Over the last six years, business

1653
01:20:24,652 --> 01:20:27,092
Speaker 3: has had this taken off their bottom line of business

1654
01:20:27,093 --> 01:20:29,932
Speaker 3: with fifty people have to fund two hundred weeks more

1655
01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:32,932
Speaker 3: to pay and replace those weeks. Gets a bit much

1656
01:20:33,013 --> 01:20:36,213
Speaker 3: for employers to have to look after every aspect of

1657
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:40,532
Speaker 3: an employee's personal life. But any good boss should know

1658
01:20:40,572 --> 01:20:42,492
Speaker 3: their employee well enough to be able to look after

1659
01:20:42,532 --> 01:20:43,412
Speaker 3: them as best they can.

1660
01:20:43,692 --> 01:20:46,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, up next, we're going to change tax completely

1661
01:20:46,812 --> 01:20:48,853
Speaker 2: and lean into gym etiquette.

1662
01:20:48,933 --> 01:20:50,333
Speaker 3: This is going to be a good one. You've been

1663
01:20:50,372 --> 01:20:53,492
Speaker 3: recently back at the gym smashing those weights, but you've

1664
01:20:53,532 --> 01:20:56,492
Speaker 3: noticed some bad behavior and it's time to call it out. Yep, right,

1665
01:20:56,853 --> 01:21:00,012
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1666
01:21:00,532 --> 01:21:02,652
Speaker 3: Stick around because we're going to get into jim etiquette

1667
01:21:02,812 --> 01:21:04,812
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is four minutes to.

1668
01:21:04,772 --> 01:21:40,452
Speaker 1: Three your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's

1669
01:21:40,492 --> 01:21:44,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk.

1670
01:21:44,412 --> 01:21:48,253
Speaker 3: Said welcome back into the show. Met and Tyler with

1671
01:21:48,372 --> 01:21:51,213
Speaker 3: you until four pm. So a doozy of a topic.

1672
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:54,532
Speaker 3: Now it's something personal to you Matt, I think you've

1673
01:21:54,572 --> 01:21:56,612
Speaker 3: been experiencing recently bad behavior.

1674
01:21:56,973 --> 01:21:59,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, lucky enough that I've been moved to the

1675
01:21:59,412 --> 01:22:04,012
Speaker 2: afternoons here on the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon

1676
01:22:04,053 --> 01:22:05,692
Speaker 2: since the b where I get to go to the

1677
01:22:05,692 --> 01:22:07,652
Speaker 2: gym in the morning because we're not un till twelve

1678
01:22:07,732 --> 01:22:10,732
Speaker 2: after eleven year on breakfast radio. And what a treated

1679
01:22:10,772 --> 01:22:13,692
Speaker 2: as in the morning to see one bright eyed and

1680
01:22:13,732 --> 01:22:19,333
Speaker 2: bushy tailed going about their lives. And I love seeing

1681
01:22:19,372 --> 01:22:20,972
Speaker 2: people going to the gym. It seems like a positive

1682
01:22:21,053 --> 01:22:23,772
Speaker 2: thing to do. But when I get there, there are

1683
01:22:23,853 --> 01:22:28,133
Speaker 2: some horrific breaches of Jim etiquette that I see.

1684
01:22:28,213 --> 01:22:29,852
Speaker 3: Jim crimes, Gim crimes.

1685
01:22:29,853 --> 01:22:32,612
Speaker 2: I'd call them, and I'd love to talk to you

1686
01:22:32,692 --> 01:22:34,532
Speaker 2: about them. Maybe I'm getting them wrong, maybe I'm getting

1687
01:22:34,532 --> 01:22:36,253
Speaker 2: them right because I haven't got a list. I don't know,

1688
01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:37,973
Speaker 2: I don't know what the rules are. I just go

1689
01:22:38,053 --> 01:22:38,372
Speaker 2: in there.

1690
01:22:38,933 --> 01:22:41,213
Speaker 3: But I just want your your your top one, the

1691
01:22:41,213 --> 01:22:44,452
Speaker 3: one that gives you the most grief, that really grinds

1692
01:22:44,452 --> 01:22:46,692
Speaker 3: your gears, Just the first one, because we want to

1693
01:22:46,692 --> 01:22:47,852
Speaker 3: hear from people on their ones.

1694
01:22:47,853 --> 01:22:52,092
Speaker 2: What really winds up people that are on a machine

1695
01:22:52,853 --> 01:22:58,452
Speaker 2: and they do this their set and then they take

1696
01:22:59,013 --> 01:23:00,732
Speaker 2: then they jump on their phone, so they're sitting on

1697
01:23:00,772 --> 01:23:05,133
Speaker 2: the machine and between reps they're doing between sets, they're

1698
01:23:05,173 --> 01:23:09,852
Speaker 2: doing two three minutes, just sitting on their phone scrolling

1699
01:23:09,893 --> 01:23:11,013
Speaker 2: through busy.

1700
01:23:10,772 --> 01:23:11,892
Speaker 3: Jim, that's a big one.

1701
01:23:12,013 --> 01:23:14,253
Speaker 2: That is a big one, and I've locked it up

1702
01:23:14,372 --> 01:23:17,452
Speaker 2: and thirty to sixty seconds is all you need between sets.

1703
01:23:17,692 --> 01:23:19,372
Speaker 2: It's about getting through. If you want to be on

1704
01:23:19,412 --> 01:23:21,692
Speaker 2: your phone, go over and stand in the corner on

1705
01:23:21,732 --> 01:23:23,612
Speaker 2: your phone. But if you want to, but it's not

1706
01:23:23,652 --> 01:23:26,412
Speaker 2: a seat, it's not a lounge. It's not a chaise

1707
01:23:26,492 --> 01:23:29,213
Speaker 2: lounge that you're on. You're on a machine and you're

1708
01:23:29,213 --> 01:23:31,333
Speaker 2: there to work out, and there's people waiting there trying

1709
01:23:31,372 --> 01:23:35,812
Speaker 2: to get through. So you do your reps. Then you

1710
01:23:35,893 --> 01:23:39,412
Speaker 2: have sixty seconds. I'd even let you ninety seconds if

1711
01:23:39,452 --> 01:23:42,973
Speaker 2: you're really pushing yourself to another limit. But the other

1712
01:23:43,053 --> 01:23:44,532
Speaker 2: day I was there and there was a guy that

1713
01:23:45,013 --> 01:23:49,532
Speaker 2: he was there for I'm going to say, so I

1714
01:23:49,572 --> 01:23:51,892
Speaker 2: went off and did four different machines before it came back,

1715
01:23:51,893 --> 01:23:55,612
Speaker 2: and he was still sitting there reax just relaxing. I

1716
01:23:55,652 --> 01:23:58,892
Speaker 2: know what pathetic weights as well, he was pulling a

1717
01:23:58,893 --> 01:24:02,093
Speaker 2: pathetic amount of weights up and then just relaxing afterwards,

1718
01:24:02,572 --> 01:24:04,012
Speaker 2: and it's just it's selfish.

1719
01:24:04,093 --> 01:24:06,532
Speaker 3: If they didn't pick up their phone in between sets,

1720
01:24:06,732 --> 01:24:08,572
Speaker 3: you'd be a lot more okay with it. That's what

1721
01:24:08,652 --> 01:24:10,612
Speaker 3: hurts you, right, is that they then sit down and

1722
01:24:10,652 --> 01:24:12,732
Speaker 3: they look like they're just having a nice Sunday morning.

1723
01:24:13,013 --> 01:24:15,412
Speaker 3: Slimp over our Instagram.

1724
01:24:14,812 --> 01:24:18,812
Speaker 2: Slump over, terrible posture, over the phone, doom scrolling. And

1725
01:24:19,133 --> 01:24:21,932
Speaker 2: this particular person I walked around because they ended up

1726
01:24:22,093 --> 01:24:24,972
Speaker 2: in a machine that was sort of behind him. Dude

1727
01:24:25,013 --> 01:24:26,173
Speaker 2: was on Instagram?

1728
01:24:26,492 --> 01:24:27,372
Speaker 3: Was he taking selfies?

1729
01:24:27,572 --> 01:24:29,812
Speaker 2: He wasn't taking selfies. Let's not get into that. People

1730
01:24:29,853 --> 01:24:30,972
Speaker 2: that film themselves at the gym.

1731
01:24:31,013 --> 01:24:32,492
Speaker 3: Have you ever taken a selfie at the gym?

1732
01:24:32,572 --> 01:24:32,852
Speaker 19: I have?

1733
01:24:33,452 --> 01:24:33,692
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1734
01:24:33,812 --> 01:24:35,692
Speaker 3: Good, good, because I was about to cool you out.

1735
01:24:35,732 --> 01:24:37,692
Speaker 3: Then you've sent us a selfie of you at the

1736
01:24:37,692 --> 01:24:38,173
Speaker 3: gym eache.

1737
01:24:38,213 --> 01:24:40,532
Speaker 2: Yeah. Because we were organizing the photos for this show.

1738
01:24:40,652 --> 01:24:43,173
Speaker 2: You were looking at and I said, look, can we

1739
01:24:43,173 --> 01:24:45,133
Speaker 2: do them shirts off? Because I'm at the gym. Yeah,

1740
01:24:45,253 --> 01:24:47,333
Speaker 2: I'm looking great. Well I'm not. Actually, I'm currently in

1741
01:24:47,333 --> 01:24:49,333
Speaker 2: a dirty, bulking situation. I've just moved on from that.

1742
01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:50,572
Speaker 2: They've got that wrong. But we're not going to talk

1743
01:24:50,612 --> 01:24:53,173
Speaker 2: about that. We're talking about jim etiquette.

1744
01:24:52,812 --> 01:24:56,213
Speaker 3: Bad behavior. What are the gym crimes that you've seen? Oh,

1745
01:24:56,253 --> 01:24:57,892
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty as the number to

1746
01:24:57,893 --> 01:25:00,972
Speaker 3: call or ticks nine two nine two. It is ten

1747
01:25:01,093 --> 01:25:06,293
Speaker 3: past three. What's the worst behavior you've seen at the gym?

1748
01:25:06,572 --> 01:25:09,772
Speaker 3: Matt Heath has been smashing the gym recently. Seems he's

1749
01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:12,773
Speaker 3: got his morning's free time and he seeing some incredibly

1750
01:25:12,812 --> 01:25:15,013
Speaker 3: bad behavior. Taylor, what is it for you?

1751
01:25:16,173 --> 01:25:18,253
Speaker 7: Yeah, any guys a game very well.

1752
01:25:18,853 --> 01:25:21,292
Speaker 3: Jim crimes, Yeah.

1753
01:25:21,133 --> 01:25:21,772
Speaker 9: Jim crimes.

1754
01:25:21,853 --> 01:25:24,932
Speaker 23: Like I don't know the rules either, like what Mett

1755
01:25:24,973 --> 01:25:29,293
Speaker 23: Will's saying. But you know, I have no issue with

1756
01:25:29,732 --> 01:25:33,812
Speaker 23: busy gyms. But if if people are hanging around a machine,

1757
01:25:33,933 --> 01:25:37,133
Speaker 23: or you know, if I'm on the machine and I

1758
01:25:37,173 --> 01:25:40,213
Speaker 23: see people hanging around, I generally offer. I say, like, oh,

1759
01:25:40,333 --> 01:25:42,532
Speaker 23: do you want to use this machine like liter rotator

1760
01:25:42,612 --> 01:25:46,652
Speaker 23: in between sets? And then usually it just becomes I

1761
01:25:46,692 --> 01:25:49,572
Speaker 23: find it's a lot quicker for both, and then it

1762
01:25:49,853 --> 01:25:52,652
Speaker 23: keeps your rest time on us as well. You know,

1763
01:25:52,692 --> 01:25:57,492
Speaker 23: it's like people aren't resting on their phones because they know, like,

1764
01:25:57,612 --> 01:25:59,612
Speaker 23: well I offered it to you, and you're sitting down

1765
01:25:59,612 --> 01:26:01,333
Speaker 23: on now once you're done, if you're set, you get

1766
01:26:01,412 --> 01:26:03,892
Speaker 23: up and you get off. And then instead of like

1767
01:26:04,853 --> 01:26:09,692
Speaker 23: z gen scrollers, I mean, I can get stuffed, man,

1768
01:26:09,732 --> 01:26:10,052
Speaker 23: you can.

1769
01:26:09,973 --> 01:26:10,572
Speaker 8: Get out of here.

1770
01:26:11,173 --> 01:26:14,093
Speaker 23: I get it, like if you're lifting heavy and you've

1771
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:16,293
Speaker 23: got to have longer rest times, but like if you're

1772
01:26:16,293 --> 01:26:18,452
Speaker 23: taking the person, you've got to like kind of get

1773
01:26:18,492 --> 01:26:18,932
Speaker 23: out of there.

1774
01:26:18,973 --> 01:26:22,412
Speaker 2: But seagulling, you're talking about people that seagull applying some

1775
01:26:22,412 --> 01:26:25,692
Speaker 2: sort of passive aggressive pressure for you to finish your

1776
01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:27,932
Speaker 2: You're you're doing everything right, You're going through your sets

1777
01:26:27,933 --> 01:26:31,053
Speaker 2: with the reasonable rest time, and people are just sniffing

1778
01:26:31,253 --> 01:26:37,333
Speaker 2: around like a seagull. On some chips you can censor

1779
01:26:37,333 --> 01:26:37,732
Speaker 2: it from.

1780
01:26:38,732 --> 01:26:40,732
Speaker 3: I don't even have to say anything. They just eye

1781
01:26:40,772 --> 01:26:43,253
Speaker 3: you up and you know that they want the machine.

1782
01:26:43,253 --> 01:26:45,693
Speaker 2: They'll do a few walk by and look at you.

1783
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:48,293
Speaker 8: And then that's when I'll just take the friendly approach

1784
01:26:48,293 --> 01:26:51,572
Speaker 8: and I'll just say, hey, mate, Keena jumping in between

1785
01:26:51,612 --> 01:26:53,772
Speaker 8: sets and let's just smash it out.

1786
01:26:53,812 --> 01:26:53,933
Speaker 19: You know.

1787
01:26:55,213 --> 01:26:58,412
Speaker 2: That's a little problem with gems now though, because everyone's

1788
01:26:58,412 --> 01:27:00,093
Speaker 2: got headphones on. You're trying and talk to someone and

1789
01:27:00,093 --> 01:27:03,572
Speaker 2: they don't hear you, and and the sort of social

1790
01:27:04,452 --> 01:27:06,212
Speaker 2: side of the gym. This is a totally different issue.

1791
01:27:06,333 --> 01:27:07,412
Speaker 2: So I don't want to go off top of that.

1792
01:27:07,612 --> 01:27:10,053
Speaker 2: But but but it's really hard to even discuss or

1793
01:27:10,093 --> 01:27:12,652
Speaker 2: talk or or ask someone if they're finished with the

1794
01:27:12,692 --> 01:27:14,412
Speaker 2: machine because no one can hear you because everyone's got

1795
01:27:14,532 --> 01:27:15,133
Speaker 2: headphones on.

1796
01:27:15,293 --> 01:27:17,612
Speaker 3: Would you genuinely do that if you're on the treadmill,

1797
01:27:17,692 --> 01:27:20,412
Speaker 3: law the bike because you were doing the the tech cycles,

1798
01:27:20,492 --> 01:27:20,852
Speaker 3: wasn't it?

1799
01:27:21,293 --> 01:27:21,612
Speaker 2: Would you?

1800
01:27:21,652 --> 01:27:23,572
Speaker 3: Generally there's a stranger next to you, you just have

1801
01:27:23,572 --> 01:27:25,293
Speaker 3: a chat. I beat your day while you're going at it.

1802
01:27:27,053 --> 01:27:29,412
Speaker 2: I might if something came up, maybe maybe a chat

1803
01:27:29,412 --> 01:27:32,852
Speaker 2: around the you know, around the drinking fountain, or a

1804
01:27:32,933 --> 01:27:36,732
Speaker 2: chat around seats. Absolutely, but you you everyone's got hit

1805
01:27:37,013 --> 01:27:40,972
Speaker 2: ear plugs in now, so so they that's not really possible,

1806
01:27:41,013 --> 01:27:41,213
Speaker 2: is it.

1807
01:27:41,253 --> 01:27:43,213
Speaker 3: You're a social fellow, Taylor. There's a great one.

1808
01:27:43,412 --> 01:27:43,612
Speaker 27: Rob.

1809
01:27:43,652 --> 01:27:44,253
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

1810
01:27:45,893 --> 01:27:47,172
Speaker 28: Hey guys, good afternoon.

1811
01:27:49,572 --> 01:27:49,772
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1812
01:27:49,973 --> 01:27:52,812
Speaker 28: So I've been a gym goar for many years, not

1813
01:27:53,013 --> 01:27:58,253
Speaker 28: as of late because of two words home gym. That's

1814
01:27:58,293 --> 01:28:00,973
Speaker 28: the best way to cut out all of the thing.

1815
01:28:01,133 --> 01:28:01,772
Speaker 19: You're pretty.

1816
01:28:03,372 --> 01:28:03,772
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was.

1817
01:28:04,372 --> 01:28:06,093
Speaker 28: You know, Matt took the words out of my mouth.

1818
01:28:06,093 --> 01:28:08,772
Speaker 28: So I was going to say the headphone and the

1819
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:14,693
Speaker 28: complete disorientation of people in the gym. You can't communicate

1820
01:28:14,692 --> 01:28:16,972
Speaker 28: with anybody anymore, you know, you're trying to make cons

1821
01:28:16,973 --> 01:28:18,213
Speaker 28: that you look you look like freak.

1822
01:28:20,973 --> 01:28:22,772
Speaker 2: You're jumping up and down, waving your arms.

1823
01:28:23,412 --> 01:28:25,213
Speaker 3: What have you got in your home set up? What

1824
01:28:25,253 --> 01:28:26,812
Speaker 3: do you got going on? Is it just one of

1825
01:28:26,812 --> 01:28:30,213
Speaker 3: the one machine that does thirty different things or you've

1826
01:28:30,213 --> 01:28:30,972
Speaker 3: got a good setup.

1827
01:28:32,772 --> 01:28:33,532
Speaker 16: So so I've got a.

1828
01:28:33,652 --> 01:28:38,892
Speaker 28: Little little bench press and one of those multi gym things.

1829
01:28:38,893 --> 01:28:39,973
Speaker 8: So it's the.

1830
01:28:39,652 --> 01:28:43,133
Speaker 28: Backs and backs and laps and then the chests and

1831
01:28:43,893 --> 01:28:46,852
Speaker 28: with all the push up stuff. So it doesn't have

1832
01:28:46,893 --> 01:28:50,053
Speaker 28: to be very complex the old gym home gym set up,

1833
01:28:50,133 --> 01:28:52,732
Speaker 28: you know. But yeah, that's that's as simple as it

1834
01:28:52,812 --> 01:28:53,492
Speaker 28: needs to be.

1835
01:28:53,572 --> 01:28:56,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can you can spend as much you

1836
01:28:56,293 --> 01:29:00,293
Speaker 2: can spend as much time between sets at home gym,

1837
01:29:00,612 --> 01:29:02,372
Speaker 2: doom scrolling on your phone if you want to, and

1838
01:29:02,692 --> 01:29:03,772
Speaker 2: you're not annoying anyone else.

1839
01:29:03,812 --> 01:29:06,012
Speaker 3: You don't need to even have to spray down the machine. Rob,

1840
01:29:06,093 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 3: that's a great one, David, what do you think?

1841
01:29:09,692 --> 01:29:16,213
Speaker 7: Yeah, mine's probably more focused on the changing rooms etiquette

1842
01:29:16,612 --> 01:29:18,293
Speaker 7: when I get when I get it out of there,

1843
01:29:18,293 --> 01:29:20,412
Speaker 7: you like to give them by some quick get out quick.

1844
01:29:20,452 --> 01:29:23,093
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know my contact with people's yeah,

1845
01:29:23,572 --> 01:29:28,492
Speaker 7: you need to change. But there's sadly there's a generation

1846
01:29:28,572 --> 01:29:31,572
Speaker 7: coming through a gentlemen that like to stand in front

1847
01:29:31,572 --> 01:29:35,293
Speaker 7: of it is with the glow dryer out load load

1848
01:29:35,333 --> 01:29:39,253
Speaker 7: drawing their bodies dry. And they're more more specifically the

1849
01:29:39,372 --> 01:29:46,372
Speaker 7: pubic here. So this has become grea by GM's concerned about.

1850
01:29:46,933 --> 01:29:50,412
Speaker 7: I don't know whether they're trying to say how or

1851
01:29:50,452 --> 01:29:52,933
Speaker 7: whether they're just exhibitions, but it's just like right, and

1852
01:29:52,933 --> 01:29:56,093
Speaker 7: then there got another champions there and things are because

1853
01:29:56,532 --> 01:29:59,532
Speaker 7: it's about six o'clock at night, at waste that everyone

1854
01:29:59,532 --> 01:30:04,732
Speaker 7: else is getting changed, the glances around sitting there, everything

1855
01:30:04,772 --> 01:30:08,253
Speaker 7: has passed us out with yeah. And then when I

1856
01:30:08,612 --> 01:30:10,892
Speaker 7: the last one was in the actual gym itself, I've

1857
01:30:10,893 --> 01:30:13,412
Speaker 7: got a group of young guys there's probably like to

1858
01:30:13,572 --> 01:30:16,013
Speaker 7: slap each other as hard as they possibly can and

1859
01:30:16,213 --> 01:30:20,293
Speaker 7: face while the other one is doing the weights machine.

1860
01:30:20,452 --> 01:30:23,092
Speaker 3: You're going to, David, it's a very.

1861
01:30:22,973 --> 01:30:28,612
Speaker 7: Well steplist, reputable gym that's a nationwide but I can

1862
01:30:28,652 --> 01:30:31,852
Speaker 7: get Yeah, it's got so many people and that as

1863
01:30:31,853 --> 01:30:33,933
Speaker 7: you're going to mention that you see all sorts of

1864
01:30:34,612 --> 01:30:37,212
Speaker 7: all sorts of types of people doing some weird stuff.

1865
01:30:37,372 --> 01:30:39,652
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because it used to be an old

1866
01:30:39,692 --> 01:30:40,213
Speaker 2: school thing.

1867
01:30:40,253 --> 01:30:40,492
Speaker 14: Though.

1868
01:30:41,293 --> 01:30:45,892
Speaker 2: I thought to just operate completely nude in the men's

1869
01:30:46,013 --> 01:30:49,932
Speaker 2: changing room just to get out of the shower, walk over,

1870
01:30:50,013 --> 01:30:52,492
Speaker 2: get your stuff together, have a chat and the nude.

1871
01:30:53,173 --> 01:30:54,932
Speaker 2: There's to be this that that used to be the thing,

1872
01:30:55,093 --> 01:30:57,053
Speaker 2: wasn't it. And but you're saying that's continuing on at

1873
01:30:57,053 --> 01:30:57,733
Speaker 2: your gym.

1874
01:30:58,213 --> 01:31:01,133
Speaker 7: Well, these guys again, but to failure with the blow drawing,

1875
01:31:01,213 --> 01:31:04,932
Speaker 7: and you know I didn't grow blow drive.

1876
01:31:05,732 --> 01:31:07,772
Speaker 3: I'm with you, David. I mean just you know, like

1877
01:31:07,812 --> 01:31:10,093
Speaker 3: when you're in the changing room, and I'm sorry to

1878
01:31:10,093 --> 01:31:12,013
Speaker 3: say it's usually sort of the older fellas, and I

1879
01:31:12,053 --> 01:31:14,173
Speaker 3: would be considered an older fellow now in the gym

1880
01:31:14,412 --> 01:31:16,412
Speaker 3: where they get butt naked and then they just hang

1881
01:31:16,452 --> 01:31:18,772
Speaker 3: around for a chat. So I've got some blooming clothes back.

1882
01:31:19,173 --> 01:31:21,572
Speaker 3: It's natural, yeah, but you're not. You know, once she

1883
01:31:21,692 --> 01:31:23,492
Speaker 3: got your gear off and then they hang around for

1884
01:31:23,532 --> 01:31:26,253
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, you can't be chatting.

1885
01:31:25,973 --> 01:31:28,692
Speaker 2: About crooking and rugby with you with your gear off. Look,

1886
01:31:28,933 --> 01:31:30,932
Speaker 2: I've seen it, and you know there's someone that's going

1887
01:31:30,933 --> 01:31:32,812
Speaker 2: to the gym on the way to work, and they

1888
01:31:32,853 --> 01:31:35,133
Speaker 2: may need to hang out and get themselves looking good

1889
01:31:35,133 --> 01:31:37,333
Speaker 2: for work in the nude. Well they look. I've seen

1890
01:31:37,372 --> 01:31:39,452
Speaker 2: ironing being done in this. Some gyms have an ironing

1891
01:31:39,452 --> 01:31:42,093
Speaker 2: board and there's nothing.

1892
01:31:41,772 --> 01:31:43,173
Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with the ironing board.

1893
01:31:43,173 --> 01:31:46,572
Speaker 2: I love going wrong with a nude man stands the

1894
01:31:46,692 --> 01:31:47,812
Speaker 2: ironing is closed.

1895
01:31:48,013 --> 01:31:49,452
Speaker 3: Do you use a headraw?

1896
01:31:49,652 --> 01:31:49,732
Speaker 27: Hu?

1897
01:31:50,572 --> 01:31:52,652
Speaker 2: Do I use a headra huh? I have been nine

1898
01:31:52,652 --> 01:31:55,812
Speaker 2: to Yeah. I don't own it, but I've used. I

1899
01:31:55,893 --> 01:31:57,253
Speaker 2: sometimes used the missus head.

1900
01:31:57,532 --> 01:32:00,253
Speaker 3: Interesting one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Tell you what.

1901
01:32:00,253 --> 01:32:02,053
Speaker 3: We've got a gym owner next, so'd be great to

1902
01:32:02,053 --> 01:32:04,652
Speaker 3: talk to her. It is nineteen minutes past through.

1903
01:32:08,333 --> 01:32:09,732
Speaker 13: Bad Heathen Tyler Adams.

1904
01:32:09,772 --> 01:32:13,852
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hund on news Talk ZB.

1905
01:32:14,133 --> 01:32:16,652
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, What is the bad behavior you see at

1906
01:32:16,692 --> 01:32:22,133
Speaker 3: your local gym? Aaron, good afternoon. Hi guys are very good.

1907
01:32:22,133 --> 01:32:24,333
Speaker 3: You're great to chat to because you are a gym owner.

1908
01:32:25,133 --> 01:32:28,412
Speaker 21: Yes, I am in a small town in the white gaddow.

1909
01:32:28,612 --> 01:32:32,173
Speaker 2: And give us trying to give a plug for your gym.

1910
01:32:32,692 --> 01:32:35,692
Speaker 21: Oh, I don't think any of my listeners would be

1911
01:32:35,692 --> 01:32:36,572
Speaker 21: listening to news talk.

1912
01:32:36,812 --> 01:32:39,133
Speaker 3: It shows my age well, let's let's talk about the

1913
01:32:39,133 --> 01:32:41,452
Speaker 3: bad behavior first and then you can decide whether you

1914
01:32:41,492 --> 01:32:42,293
Speaker 3: want to plug your gym.

1915
01:32:42,372 --> 01:32:43,612
Speaker 2: We have lots of young listeners.

1916
01:32:43,612 --> 01:32:46,213
Speaker 3: Era have you got have you got specific rules for

1917
01:32:46,253 --> 01:32:49,612
Speaker 3: your gym on things that you know your clients cannot do?

1918
01:32:50,692 --> 01:32:50,932
Speaker 13: Yes?

1919
01:32:51,173 --> 01:32:53,892
Speaker 21: And this is my biggest pet peeve. And I actually

1920
01:32:53,933 --> 01:32:55,612
Speaker 21: don't have anyone that does this at the moment. But

1921
01:32:55,692 --> 01:33:00,532
Speaker 21: it's letting go of the cables. Oh yeah, I'm okay

1922
01:33:00,572 --> 01:33:04,213
Speaker 21: with dropping dumb boughs to prevent injury. So dumb boughs

1923
01:33:04,253 --> 01:33:06,532
Speaker 21: does solid and it's a concord flour, so it's not

1924
01:33:06,572 --> 01:33:09,612
Speaker 21: going to be too much of an issue. But the

1925
01:33:09,692 --> 01:33:13,492
Speaker 21: cables just letting go and slaming those Yeah, I will

1926
01:33:13,572 --> 01:33:14,412
Speaker 21: hunt you down.

1927
01:33:14,253 --> 01:33:17,852
Speaker 2: And there's no need so.

1928
01:33:19,452 --> 01:33:22,173
Speaker 21: And it's so expensive for a gym owner because it's

1929
01:33:22,293 --> 01:33:25,173
Speaker 21: craps the plate that's on the stack, on the weight stack,

1930
01:33:25,213 --> 01:33:28,213
Speaker 21: and so that's really hard for us to replace. Then

1931
01:33:28,253 --> 01:33:30,892
Speaker 21: it's replacing the cable with that that will jump off

1932
01:33:30,933 --> 01:33:33,492
Speaker 21: the pulley if it's been slammed, and then the next

1933
01:33:33,492 --> 01:33:35,812
Speaker 21: person goes to use it, they horse it because it's

1934
01:33:35,812 --> 01:33:39,532
Speaker 21: not on the pulley that breaks the cable that is

1935
01:33:39,812 --> 01:33:41,772
Speaker 21: a day job for me, like that will take up

1936
01:33:41,893 --> 01:33:44,693
Speaker 21: most of my day when I have to replace the cables.

1937
01:33:45,013 --> 01:33:48,532
Speaker 21: It's also a house and safety issue when I hear

1938
01:33:49,013 --> 01:33:51,973
Speaker 21: a cable just being let go home. I'm like, I

1939
01:33:52,013 --> 01:33:52,692
Speaker 21: will let you go.

1940
01:33:54,213 --> 01:33:55,812
Speaker 2: So what is it when you when you're dropping the

1941
01:33:56,013 --> 01:33:58,772
Speaker 2: you know, the free weights, the dumbbells. Because I was

1942
01:33:58,772 --> 01:34:00,532
Speaker 2: at the gym the other day and the sky was

1943
01:34:00,652 --> 01:34:03,933
Speaker 2: lifting the doing some liftings is a big failer, and

1944
01:34:03,973 --> 01:34:06,133
Speaker 2: he was lifting the impressed amount of weights, but he

1945
01:34:06,572 --> 01:34:09,692
Speaker 2: was dropping them each time, and each time, every single person,

1946
01:34:09,732 --> 01:34:12,532
Speaker 2: even though everyone's got headphones on, was looking around and

1947
01:34:12,572 --> 01:34:15,732
Speaker 2: getting a fright every time. So that's okay. You're saying

1948
01:34:15,772 --> 01:34:17,652
Speaker 2: it's okay to drop the dumbbells.

1949
01:34:18,772 --> 01:34:22,053
Speaker 21: If I had someone that's doing it repeatedly, then I

1950
01:34:22,093 --> 01:34:23,173
Speaker 21: will go and talk to them.

1951
01:34:23,452 --> 01:34:26,572
Speaker 2: Right, So you're saying that some people are dropping them

1952
01:34:26,612 --> 01:34:28,812
Speaker 2: by accident. It seemed like this guy was dropping them

1953
01:34:28,812 --> 01:34:33,612
Speaker 2: as part of his routine.

1954
01:34:31,692 --> 01:34:34,213
Speaker 21: Just attention seeking. Yeah, and I will go and I'll

1955
01:34:34,213 --> 01:34:36,333
Speaker 21: give you some attention. And there's a door.

1956
01:34:36,532 --> 01:34:39,973
Speaker 3: It's the throwdown, though, isn't it. It's the march show boom.

1957
01:34:40,173 --> 01:34:41,972
Speaker 3: I take it the area where you've got your weights.

1958
01:34:41,973 --> 01:34:43,892
Speaker 3: Do you have extra padding there just in case there

1959
01:34:43,933 --> 01:34:45,173
Speaker 3: is an accidential drop.

1960
01:34:46,213 --> 01:34:48,093
Speaker 21: Yeah, so we're on a concrete floor, but we do

1961
01:34:48,213 --> 01:34:51,012
Speaker 21: have our freeweight does have Jim matt the rubber Mattine there.

1962
01:34:51,933 --> 01:34:56,292
Speaker 21: I do have some very old school elliptic metal dumbbells,

1963
01:34:56,333 --> 01:35:00,732
Speaker 21: so when they yet dropped there a lot louder. But yeah,

1964
01:35:00,893 --> 01:35:04,612
Speaker 21: if someone's doing like chest press or chest fly, and

1965
01:35:04,652 --> 01:35:07,212
Speaker 21: I'll be knowing I've had to let go to prevent injury.

1966
01:35:08,652 --> 01:35:11,093
Speaker 21: But if someone's doing that time and time again, I'm like, mate,

1967
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:12,133
Speaker 21: you need to lower your weight.

1968
01:35:12,572 --> 01:35:15,293
Speaker 2: As a Jemona, what are your views on people taking

1969
01:35:15,372 --> 01:35:20,053
Speaker 2: selfies or filming themselves at the gym?

1970
01:35:20,053 --> 01:35:21,212
Speaker 27: It's so hard.

1971
01:35:21,572 --> 01:35:28,652
Speaker 21: It's it's so hard because I felt my own workout.

1972
01:35:28,893 --> 01:35:29,093
Speaker 2: Yep.

1973
01:35:30,452 --> 01:35:32,652
Speaker 21: But I do it when the gym is quiet, Like

1974
01:35:32,692 --> 01:35:35,412
Speaker 21: I actually train right at lunchtime because there's no one there,

1975
01:35:35,853 --> 01:35:39,612
Speaker 21: probably the quietest time in my gym, But as soon

1976
01:35:39,652 --> 01:35:45,372
Speaker 21: as I have members come in, I start filming. It's

1977
01:35:45,372 --> 01:35:47,692
Speaker 21: great for social media, but at the same time, there's

1978
01:35:47,732 --> 01:35:49,732
Speaker 21: a big privacy thing it gets.

1979
01:35:49,853 --> 01:35:50,772
Speaker 26: It's a real.

1980
01:35:50,652 --> 01:35:55,732
Speaker 21: Complicated kind of debate really at Jemona, whether it's a

1981
01:35:55,812 --> 01:35:59,012
Speaker 21: Yale or a ny and I do. I do agree

1982
01:35:59,053 --> 01:36:02,412
Speaker 21: with Jim Gyms. Perhaps is no more filming, but it's

1983
01:36:02,412 --> 01:36:05,572
Speaker 21: a very thing hard thing to police, good answer, hard

1984
01:36:05,612 --> 01:36:06,772
Speaker 21: to police New Zealand.

1985
01:36:06,933 --> 01:36:08,973
Speaker 2: I mean so recently the New Illan Herold did a

1986
01:36:08,973 --> 01:36:11,692
Speaker 2: story A Day in the Life of of myself, Matt Heath,

1987
01:36:11,812 --> 01:36:14,852
Speaker 2: and they came in and filmed me in the gym

1988
01:36:15,333 --> 01:36:20,932
Speaker 2: and as humiliating poor report. It was just the day

1989
01:36:20,933 --> 01:36:22,173
Speaker 2: of the life, but it was I think it was

1990
01:36:22,173 --> 01:36:24,173
Speaker 2: one of the most humiliating things I'd ever done, because

1991
01:36:24,173 --> 01:36:26,732
Speaker 2: I'm not buff and I'm not listening a lot of weights.

1992
01:36:26,732 --> 01:36:29,213
Speaker 2: And then then there was a there was a camera

1993
01:36:29,293 --> 01:36:30,932
Speaker 2: crew there and other people were trying to work out,

1994
01:36:31,013 --> 01:36:32,732
Speaker 2: and I think it was you know, if I could

1995
01:36:32,732 --> 01:36:34,372
Speaker 2: turn back time, I would have said no to that,

1996
01:36:34,412 --> 01:36:36,732
Speaker 2: particularly posed a little bit of s yeah, especially when

1997
01:36:36,772 --> 01:36:38,013
Speaker 2: I saw the photographs.

1998
01:36:38,253 --> 01:36:39,892
Speaker 3: Aaron, You've been great to chat too. Did you want

1999
01:36:39,893 --> 01:36:40,892
Speaker 3: to mention where your gym is.

2000
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:45,293
Speaker 21: It's a little weetown and Trehung and the White Time, okay,

2001
01:36:45,532 --> 01:36:48,093
Speaker 21: down by Waite Time and the White Day. So tre

2002
01:36:48,133 --> 01:36:50,692
Speaker 21: Hung a house on fitness and I like to say

2003
01:36:50,692 --> 01:36:53,852
Speaker 21: that we've been going since nineteen ninety nine. So it's

2004
01:36:53,893 --> 01:36:56,293
Speaker 21: a good long standing family operated gym.

2005
01:36:56,372 --> 01:36:58,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it, good operation, Thank you very much in

2006
01:36:58,893 --> 01:36:59,372
Speaker 3: the area.

2007
01:36:59,492 --> 01:37:02,772
Speaker 2: Hey, okay, so nine two o two, what percentage of

2008
01:37:02,853 --> 01:37:07,253
Speaker 2: Kiwi's are signed up to gym's? What percentage of New

2009
01:37:07,372 --> 01:37:09,772
Speaker 2: Zealanders do you think are signed up to gyms? Have

2010
01:37:09,812 --> 01:37:10,692
Speaker 2: a guest there, tyler.

2011
01:37:10,692 --> 01:37:13,173
Speaker 3: You're not going to give multi multi choice. I will

2012
01:37:13,213 --> 01:37:14,973
Speaker 3: say what percentage of keywis a sign up?

2013
01:37:15,013 --> 01:37:16,772
Speaker 2: I'll give you, I'll give I'll give you. I'll give

2014
01:37:16,772 --> 01:37:18,812
Speaker 2: you three options. It'll be like the chase. One of

2015
01:37:18,853 --> 01:37:24,973
Speaker 2: them is ridiculous. Fifty percent, Nah, twenty percent. Mmmm, this

2016
01:37:25,093 --> 01:37:25,652
Speaker 2: is adults.

2017
01:37:25,732 --> 01:37:28,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty percent, twenty percent or.

2018
01:37:29,812 --> 01:37:30,452
Speaker 2: Three percent?

2019
01:37:31,013 --> 01:37:33,652
Speaker 3: Oh three percent? Well, you know so that is okay,

2020
01:37:33,652 --> 01:37:35,093
Speaker 3: it's got to be twenty then got to go in

2021
01:37:35,133 --> 01:37:36,852
Speaker 3: the middle, go for the nine grand every time on

2022
01:37:36,973 --> 01:37:39,293
Speaker 3: the chase? All right, all right? Ninety two nine two,

2023
01:37:39,293 --> 01:37:42,012
Speaker 3: what do you reckon? Headlines are coming up? It's twenty

2024
01:37:42,013 --> 01:37:42,972
Speaker 3: seven pars three.

2025
01:37:45,612 --> 01:37:46,052
Speaker 2: US talk.

2026
01:37:46,133 --> 01:37:49,772
Speaker 16: Sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

2027
01:37:49,812 --> 01:37:53,333
Speaker 16: with the blue bubble. The local government minister and Wellington's

2028
01:37:53,372 --> 01:37:56,173
Speaker 16: mayor will be talking after a week of rumblings since

2029
01:37:56,213 --> 01:37:59,772
Speaker 16: the Council reversed its plan to sell airport shares. It

2030
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:02,932
Speaker 16: means that long term plan will need revising to cope

2031
01:38:02,933 --> 01:38:07,092
Speaker 16: with the change in funds. Inflation may be settling down

2032
01:38:07,173 --> 01:38:09,772
Speaker 16: with the annual rate at two point two percent, but

2033
01:38:09,933 --> 01:38:14,133
Speaker 16: many unavoidable costs have been rising sharply. Rents, rates and

2034
01:38:14,173 --> 01:38:18,333
Speaker 16: insurance have risen more than twelve percent. A military lawyer

2035
01:38:18,412 --> 01:38:21,692
Speaker 16: says our army could easily find Tom Phillips and his

2036
01:38:21,812 --> 01:38:24,372
Speaker 16: three children in Model Cooper, but it wouldn't be a

2037
01:38:24,372 --> 01:38:28,293
Speaker 16: great look and there are legal issues. The police union

2038
01:38:28,333 --> 01:38:31,293
Speaker 16: isn't convinced gang laws coming into force next month will

2039
01:38:31,333 --> 01:38:35,412
Speaker 16: be smoothly implemented. The new Power's ban insignia in public

2040
01:38:35,692 --> 01:38:40,572
Speaker 16: and let officers disperse gatherings. Four Southlanders have been caught

2041
01:38:40,612 --> 01:38:45,012
Speaker 16: illegally white baiting outside regulated hours and their nets were seized.

2042
01:38:45,933 --> 01:38:50,013
Speaker 16: Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron enter SALDI partnership separate to

2043
01:38:50,093 --> 01:38:53,452
Speaker 16: any potential deal over the next America's Cup. You can

2044
01:38:53,452 --> 01:38:56,093
Speaker 16: find out more at ens at Herald Premium. Now back

2045
01:38:56,133 --> 01:38:57,772
Speaker 16: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2046
01:38:57,812 --> 01:38:59,892
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylean, So you asked the question

2047
01:38:59,933 --> 01:39:03,093
Speaker 3: before the headlines, what percentage of New Zealanders are signed

2048
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:04,772
Speaker 3: up to a gym. Some good teachs coming through.

2049
01:39:04,973 --> 01:39:09,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so the percentage is twelve percent percent of

2050
01:39:09,532 --> 01:39:12,012
Speaker 2: all people, but that wasn't one of my options. Twenty

2051
01:39:12,013 --> 01:39:16,333
Speaker 2: percent of adults, twenty percent of kiwis assigned up to gym.

2052
01:39:16,333 --> 01:39:19,772
Speaker 2: That that doesn't say how many people are actually regularly going.

2053
01:39:20,213 --> 01:39:22,173
Speaker 2: Because I'm on the wall at my gym is a

2054
01:39:22,213 --> 01:39:24,812
Speaker 2: gym legend, So I'm actually my name is listed on

2055
01:39:24,812 --> 01:39:25,692
Speaker 2: the wall as a gym legend.

2056
01:39:25,772 --> 01:39:26,293
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

2057
01:39:26,412 --> 01:39:29,333
Speaker 2: It means people that continued paying right through COVID lockdowns.

2058
01:39:29,893 --> 01:39:31,732
Speaker 2: But that was because I wasn't aware I was still

2059
01:39:31,772 --> 01:39:34,612
Speaker 2: paying because I'd signed up. You know, you do that

2060
01:39:34,652 --> 01:39:36,412
Speaker 2: sign up in January because you're going to make your

2061
01:39:36,452 --> 01:39:38,213
Speaker 2: life better and then you just pay to be there.

2062
01:39:38,452 --> 01:39:41,053
Speaker 2: But so twenty percent of adults are signed up to

2063
01:39:41,133 --> 01:39:43,732
Speaker 2: a gym.

2064
01:39:42,812 --> 01:39:45,253
Speaker 3: That's in fact. How many gym memberships do you reckon

2065
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:46,252
Speaker 3: you've had in your lifetime.

2066
01:39:47,213 --> 01:39:49,492
Speaker 2: I've had a lot. Yeah, I think I nearly always

2067
01:39:49,492 --> 01:39:51,973
Speaker 2: have a gym membership, but I go through periods of

2068
01:39:52,013 --> 01:39:54,932
Speaker 2: going to the gym right now, gym hard.

2069
01:39:55,133 --> 01:39:57,572
Speaker 3: I reckon that gym membership percentage would go up at

2070
01:39:57,612 --> 01:40:00,053
Speaker 3: about January each year. I reckon that would rock it

2071
01:40:00,133 --> 01:40:03,372
Speaker 3: up to about fifty percent. Drop back off absolutely, well,

2072
01:40:03,452 --> 01:40:06,092
Speaker 3: you know if you remember to cancel it. Brigid bad

2073
01:40:06,133 --> 01:40:08,732
Speaker 3: behavior at the gym? What's your watch? Your number one

2074
01:40:08,973 --> 01:40:09,492
Speaker 3: pet peeve?

2075
01:40:10,133 --> 01:40:14,812
Speaker 31: Well, back to the gym etiquette. So I used to

2076
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:18,412
Speaker 31: go to a gym in Australia and called Fitness First,

2077
01:40:18,412 --> 01:40:21,093
Speaker 31: which is kind of like there's mills, big gym, and

2078
01:40:21,333 --> 01:40:24,253
Speaker 31: women would sort of just walk around not dressed normally.

2079
01:40:24,253 --> 01:40:24,813
Speaker 26: Etiquette.

2080
01:40:24,893 --> 01:40:26,972
Speaker 31: I would say, as you have your shower, you put

2081
01:40:26,973 --> 01:40:30,012
Speaker 31: your bottoms on, and I on your clothes, work and stuff.

2082
01:40:30,013 --> 01:40:33,612
Speaker 31: But people just walk around butt naked. And then one

2083
01:40:33,652 --> 01:40:35,173
Speaker 31: day I went into the gym and this woman was

2084
01:40:35,173 --> 01:40:38,012
Speaker 31: there and she was drying her hair, drying her hair,

2085
01:40:38,093 --> 01:40:39,812
Speaker 31: and then she gave it a blast in the front

2086
01:40:39,933 --> 01:40:43,012
Speaker 31: and toot in the back, and I thought, oh, it's horrible.

2087
01:40:43,053 --> 01:40:44,372
Speaker 31: I don't want to use the hair dryer as if

2088
01:40:44,412 --> 01:40:49,772
Speaker 31: you've been using it for that as well in front

2089
01:40:49,812 --> 01:40:51,852
Speaker 31: of everybody. It's a really big there's a whole big

2090
01:40:51,893 --> 01:40:55,132
Speaker 31: sort of U shaped area with hair dryers. So I thought, okay,

2091
01:40:55,532 --> 01:40:59,013
Speaker 31: So when he got the Fitness First logo and did

2092
01:40:59,013 --> 01:41:00,692
Speaker 31: a made up a little sticker and it had a

2093
01:41:00,732 --> 01:41:03,173
Speaker 31: sort of silhouette of a human. It had the logo

2094
01:41:03,293 --> 01:41:05,772
Speaker 31: and it had a hair dry pointing down there with

2095
01:41:05,853 --> 01:41:06,372
Speaker 31: a cross.

2096
01:41:06,572 --> 01:41:08,213
Speaker 7: So it was an international sticker.

2097
01:41:08,492 --> 01:41:10,412
Speaker 31: You know, you didn't need to speak English to understand.

2098
01:41:10,933 --> 01:41:14,372
Speaker 31: And then I went around the gym when there were

2099
01:41:14,492 --> 01:41:17,372
Speaker 31: many people there and stuck these stickers by all the

2100
01:41:17,412 --> 01:41:22,053
Speaker 31: hair dryers and the woman room. And because they were official,

2101
01:41:22,973 --> 01:41:24,732
Speaker 31: I could. After about a month, I owned up to

2102
01:41:24,772 --> 01:41:27,492
Speaker 31: the reception. I said, look, I've done something and they.

2103
01:41:27,412 --> 01:41:28,253
Speaker 10: Said was that you?

2104
01:41:28,372 --> 01:41:31,053
Speaker 31: Because the head office came and did their walk through

2105
01:41:31,053 --> 01:41:34,572
Speaker 31: of the gym, and someone from a head office marketing said.

2106
01:41:34,612 --> 01:41:35,692
Speaker 26: What is what are those?

2107
01:41:37,893 --> 01:41:40,093
Speaker 31: Because no books are such a big gym, everybody thought

2108
01:41:40,133 --> 01:41:43,853
Speaker 31: that it was an official piece of signage.

2109
01:41:45,412 --> 01:41:47,333
Speaker 3: Good on you. You should be applauded.

2110
01:41:47,372 --> 01:41:47,652
Speaker 5: You should.

2111
01:41:47,732 --> 01:41:49,452
Speaker 3: You should have gotten a free gym membership for that.

2112
01:41:49,572 --> 01:41:51,012
Speaker 2: And appropriate use of the hair driver.

2113
01:41:52,213 --> 01:41:52,492
Speaker 13: Love it.

2114
01:41:52,572 --> 01:41:54,412
Speaker 3: They have the communal hair drawer as well. I mean,

2115
01:41:54,452 --> 01:41:57,532
Speaker 3: come on, we just respect if it's a communal hair dryer.

2116
01:41:57,652 --> 01:41:59,852
Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess it goes one way. It's

2117
01:41:59,893 --> 01:42:01,492
Speaker 2: not a it's not a vacuum cleaner. I mean that

2118
01:42:01,692 --> 01:42:04,293
Speaker 2: that's a problem because that will bring some stuff back

2119
01:42:04,333 --> 01:42:07,012
Speaker 2: and at least it's I guess it's blowing. Well anyway,

2120
01:42:07,093 --> 01:42:09,092
Speaker 2: it's not good too deep into that, Martin.

2121
01:42:09,492 --> 01:42:13,572
Speaker 3: What's your thoughts about eat a kid at the gym?

2122
01:42:13,772 --> 01:42:14,692
Speaker 19: Hey? How's it gone?

2123
01:42:14,772 --> 01:42:14,972
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2124
01:42:15,013 --> 01:42:16,852
Speaker 2: Good, good good.

2125
01:42:17,812 --> 01:42:22,933
Speaker 25: One was more in search of a gym. So but

2126
01:42:23,053 --> 01:42:25,532
Speaker 25: the background, I was doing my OE and the UK

2127
01:42:25,812 --> 01:42:29,133
Speaker 25: and I was doing shop sitting, so we were moving

2128
01:42:29,133 --> 01:42:31,732
Speaker 25: around the UK a week at a time, and I

2129
01:42:31,772 --> 01:42:34,812
Speaker 25: was I was just signing up for like the free trials,

2130
01:42:35,652 --> 01:42:37,652
Speaker 25: moving around and we ended up doing a job in

2131
01:42:37,692 --> 01:42:40,572
Speaker 25: the north of Scotland and like a little in Red

2132
01:42:40,612 --> 01:42:45,933
Speaker 25: Town and and uh so I got to one of

2133
01:42:45,933 --> 01:42:48,132
Speaker 25: the laborers on side. I said, oh, mate, I'm looking

2134
01:42:48,213 --> 01:42:51,053
Speaker 25: for a gym. Is there any gyms in town? And

2135
01:42:51,093 --> 01:42:54,652
Speaker 25: then he stares at me and he's like, oh, I

2136
01:42:54,652 --> 01:42:57,733
Speaker 25: don't know, Laddie. There's two gyms. There's the Jim McDonald's

2137
01:42:57,772 --> 01:43:01,652
Speaker 25: down on the corner, and there's a Jim McConnell's over

2138
01:43:01,692 --> 01:43:02,132
Speaker 25: the bridge.

2139
01:43:03,612 --> 01:43:06,892
Speaker 3: So good, so good, yeah, great one.

2140
01:43:07,572 --> 01:43:11,412
Speaker 2: But no Joe down to the But no, no gyms

2141
01:43:11,412 --> 01:43:12,492
Speaker 2: you could actually work out in.

2142
01:43:15,293 --> 01:43:18,412
Speaker 3: Not not one that you'd want to do that, you'd

2143
01:43:18,452 --> 01:43:20,372
Speaker 3: want to Jimmy, what are you reckon?

2144
01:43:21,772 --> 01:43:24,853
Speaker 5: Mate? I've got a different take on this. These puffcakes

2145
01:43:24,933 --> 01:43:27,492
Speaker 5: that are ringing, mate, this is unbelievable. It's not a

2146
01:43:27,492 --> 01:43:30,812
Speaker 5: hairdressing shop where you've got blow drawers and that right,

2147
01:43:31,692 --> 01:43:36,013
Speaker 5: that's step real mate. Now, I'm christ you boy. I

2148
01:43:36,133 --> 01:43:39,532
Speaker 5: love it, and in my heart of hearts, I used

2149
01:43:39,532 --> 01:43:42,052
Speaker 5: to go. I'd have a look around, but always stuck

2150
01:43:42,093 --> 01:43:45,093
Speaker 5: with a one gym I stuck with. I used to

2151
01:43:45,133 --> 01:43:47,532
Speaker 5: go to Golds and haven't we look? But you know

2152
01:43:47,933 --> 01:43:50,692
Speaker 5: number one was quiet and Cob was mate. There was

2153
01:43:50,893 --> 01:43:56,412
Speaker 5: three floors, Tyler Matt. Three floors. One was straight out weightlifters,

2154
01:43:56,812 --> 01:44:00,213
Speaker 5: one was boxing, one was typ one dough and I

2155
01:44:00,492 --> 01:44:03,133
Speaker 5: kid you not to this day, I miss it. It's

2156
01:44:03,213 --> 01:44:06,253
Speaker 5: not there. I'm in my seventies, but I promise you

2157
01:44:06,293 --> 01:44:09,572
Speaker 5: and the old boy used to run at Old Oh mate.

2158
01:44:09,973 --> 01:44:12,732
Speaker 5: You know it was hard sweat. If you go down

2159
01:44:12,812 --> 01:44:16,253
Speaker 5: below to pick the weight, you could smell the shit

2160
01:44:16,372 --> 01:44:20,372
Speaker 5: and the pete and everything else. It was hardcore mates.

2161
01:44:20,612 --> 01:44:24,452
Speaker 5: The Reds, Yeah, I make there was Modis, There was

2162
01:44:24,572 --> 01:44:29,213
Speaker 5: park in Russians and all no mirrors. I mean today

2163
01:44:29,253 --> 01:44:32,452
Speaker 5: they quacked the mirrors. They too busy looking at themselves.

2164
01:44:32,492 --> 01:44:36,572
Speaker 3: Mate. I trust a gym that's run by old Joe.

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01:44:37,133 --> 01:44:41,492
Speaker 2: I've seen some footage of early early gyms in New

2166
01:44:41,532 --> 01:44:44,133
Speaker 2: Zealand with people smoking cigarettes between sets.

2167
01:44:43,853 --> 01:44:47,972
Speaker 3: You know, Jeffy. Thank you very much, mate, quick couple

2168
01:44:47,973 --> 01:44:51,812
Speaker 3: of texts and then we'll carry this on Kiday. Guys.

2169
01:44:51,893 --> 01:44:54,772
Speaker 3: I hate stinking gym members who have a mix of

2170
01:44:54,853 --> 01:44:58,412
Speaker 3: sweats and links to the over And yes, you know

2171
01:44:58,492 --> 01:45:00,532
Speaker 3: there's that smell in the locker room of a gym

2172
01:45:00,612 --> 01:45:02,852
Speaker 3: that there's no other smell like it. When you go

2173
01:45:02,893 --> 01:45:05,372
Speaker 3: in there, you just know you're in a gym locker room.

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01:45:05,532 --> 01:45:06,892
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:45:06,973 --> 01:45:08,612
Speaker 3: I don't know if they can bottle that up. It

2176
01:45:08,612 --> 01:45:09,932
Speaker 3: would be a best seller if they could.

2177
01:45:10,053 --> 01:45:11,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean you've got to say, like we're

2178
01:45:11,492 --> 01:45:14,093
Speaker 2: talking about links here, but lynx Africa is you know

2179
01:45:14,492 --> 01:45:16,932
Speaker 2: that that'll cover most my stuff? That is a powerful

2180
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:18,132
Speaker 2: scent that Linkxafra.

2181
01:45:18,253 --> 01:45:20,173
Speaker 3: Does it really cover though or does it just come

2182
01:45:20,412 --> 01:45:25,213
Speaker 3: to it? Yeah? Mixonment's a good smell though. Yeah, that

2183
01:45:25,293 --> 01:45:29,412
Speaker 3: is a great one. I love the smell of liminent limitents.

2184
01:45:29,853 --> 01:45:31,933
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

2185
01:45:31,933 --> 01:45:35,692
Speaker 3: call text number nine to nine two stick around because

2186
01:45:35,732 --> 01:45:38,852
Speaker 3: coming up. Oh, this is a great text from Luke.

2187
01:45:38,973 --> 01:45:41,533
Speaker 3: It is twenty three minutes before.

2188
01:45:42,933 --> 01:45:47,052
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon tour Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

2189
01:45:47,093 --> 01:45:51,492
Speaker 1: Afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News TALKSB.

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01:45:51,973 --> 01:45:54,532
Speaker 3: News TALKSB. We're talking about the worst crimes that you've

2191
01:45:54,532 --> 01:45:57,053
Speaker 3: seen in the gym or bad Jim etiquette. This is

2192
01:45:57,053 --> 01:45:58,652
Speaker 3: on the back of Matt Heath. He's got back into

2193
01:45:58,692 --> 01:46:01,813
Speaker 3: the gym hardcore and he seems some pretty bad behavior.

2194
01:46:02,492 --> 01:46:03,772
Speaker 3: Quick a couple of text and we'll get back to

2195
01:46:03,812 --> 01:46:06,812
Speaker 3: the phones. Luke says, many were headphones, but forget that.

2196
01:46:06,853 --> 01:46:11,012
Speaker 3: You are only speak louder, but you're grunting. Crone louder

2197
01:46:11,053 --> 01:46:13,133
Speaker 3: also not a bad habit. Amusing though.

2198
01:46:13,293 --> 01:46:15,132
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't have a problem with grunters.

2199
01:46:15,173 --> 01:46:17,452
Speaker 2: Do you like that's a big thing that people complain about.

2200
01:46:17,532 --> 01:46:18,372
Speaker 3: I'm a massive grunter.

2201
01:46:19,013 --> 01:46:19,213
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2202
01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:19,452
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2203
01:46:21,412 --> 01:46:23,772
Speaker 3: When you get into the living must the last few reps.

2204
01:46:25,053 --> 01:46:26,772
Speaker 3: I got to grip the teeth and get into it.

2205
01:46:26,812 --> 01:46:28,492
Speaker 2: Do you lift to fail?

2206
01:46:29,013 --> 01:46:29,213
Speaker 15: Yep?

2207
01:46:29,372 --> 01:46:31,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, you lift to fail. Yeah. So you've got a

2208
01:46:31,853 --> 01:46:34,492
Speaker 2: number of reps, but you've got to set right. If

2209
01:46:34,532 --> 01:46:38,132
Speaker 2: you you don't you don't make the the the reps

2210
01:46:38,133 --> 01:46:40,293
Speaker 2: on your final set when.

2211
01:46:40,213 --> 01:46:40,612
Speaker 5: You're like.

2212
01:46:42,333 --> 01:46:44,253
Speaker 2: But then you don't do you don't do Aaron was

2213
01:46:44,253 --> 01:46:45,892
Speaker 2: talking about, you don't then let go of it. If

2214
01:46:45,933 --> 01:46:46,933
Speaker 2: you're on a machinery.

2215
01:46:50,612 --> 01:46:56,333
Speaker 7: Ross, what do you reckon you lads?

2216
01:46:56,572 --> 01:47:02,052
Speaker 32: Selfies, yeah, one thing, but selfies in the showers walking

2217
01:47:02,133 --> 01:47:03,852
Speaker 32: around naked is a little bit.

2218
01:47:06,532 --> 01:47:07,532
Speaker 2: Thatregious.

2219
01:47:08,652 --> 01:47:12,093
Speaker 32: And yeah, I don't know, people just I'm not really

2220
01:47:12,093 --> 01:47:13,852
Speaker 32: a care of it. And I think it's probably a

2221
01:47:13,893 --> 01:47:16,932
Speaker 32: matter of time before someone shared a picture on social

2222
01:47:16,973 --> 01:47:19,972
Speaker 32: media something and there's a naked foot on the background.

2223
01:47:20,053 --> 01:47:22,092
Speaker 32: It's been to cause a bit of trouble. But that's

2224
01:47:22,492 --> 01:47:24,492
Speaker 32: that's my number one I.

2225
01:47:24,452 --> 01:47:27,093
Speaker 2: Reckon generally is a rule if you if you absolutely

2226
01:47:27,173 --> 01:47:30,093
Speaker 2: need to take a selfie, and and I'm guilty of that.

2227
01:47:30,173 --> 01:47:31,572
Speaker 2: I sent one to Tyler when I was at the gym,

2228
01:47:31,572 --> 01:47:32,412
Speaker 2: but it was a comedy win.

2229
01:47:32,612 --> 01:47:35,492
Speaker 3: It was a comedy one. It makes a joke associated

2230
01:47:35,532 --> 01:47:36,612
Speaker 3: with about the phone, and.

2231
01:47:36,572 --> 01:47:40,213
Speaker 2: I didn't look good, so it wasn't a vanity shot.

2232
01:47:40,372 --> 01:47:41,892
Speaker 2: But also I made sure there was no one else

2233
01:47:41,933 --> 01:47:44,412
Speaker 2: in the back. And I also felt humiliated because someone

2234
01:47:44,452 --> 01:47:46,133
Speaker 2: looked over at me taking the shot and they thought

2235
01:47:46,772 --> 01:47:49,732
Speaker 2: this pune thinks he's taking his shot. He's firing that

2236
01:47:49,812 --> 01:47:50,813
Speaker 2: up for his social.

2237
01:47:51,452 --> 01:47:54,372
Speaker 3: That's a great one. Ross guys. People on their phones

2238
01:47:54,372 --> 01:47:57,892
Speaker 3: were sitting on equipment between in between sets. They get

2239
01:47:57,933 --> 01:48:00,372
Speaker 3: so engrossed in their phone that five minutes can pass

2240
01:48:00,412 --> 01:48:03,333
Speaker 3: before doing their next set. That's your big one, Yeah, Jim.

2241
01:48:03,372 --> 01:48:06,452
Speaker 3: Etiquette is to keep your sweat and like in the gym.

2242
01:48:06,532 --> 01:48:09,412
Speaker 3: Nothing worse than the gym job and jills who duck

2243
01:48:09,452 --> 01:48:11,572
Speaker 3: out of work for a midday session then come back

2244
01:48:11,572 --> 01:48:13,892
Speaker 3: to work to call down at their desk showing off

2245
01:48:13,933 --> 01:48:17,213
Speaker 3: all their sweat, and it's to prove that they've just

2246
01:48:17,253 --> 01:48:17,812
Speaker 3: been to the gym.

2247
01:48:17,933 --> 01:48:18,732
Speaker 2: It's just gross.

2248
01:48:18,812 --> 01:48:21,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, the midday gym goers. I get you've only got

2249
01:48:21,812 --> 01:48:24,013
Speaker 3: so much time in the day, and if all the

2250
01:48:24,093 --> 01:48:26,093
Speaker 3: time that you've got as your lunch hour to go

2251
01:48:26,133 --> 01:48:28,253
Speaker 3: down to the gym, I mean, so be it. But

2252
01:48:28,452 --> 01:48:29,932
Speaker 3: you've got to have a shower at work if that's

2253
01:48:29,973 --> 01:48:30,932
Speaker 3: the case, right.

2254
01:48:30,812 --> 01:48:33,053
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that? Sorry, I'm not misunderstanding

2255
01:48:33,053 --> 01:48:33,532
Speaker 2: the complaint.

2256
01:48:33,532 --> 01:48:36,452
Speaker 3: There were saying people duck out of the office, they

2257
01:48:36,492 --> 01:48:39,093
Speaker 3: come back, they smash out the gym. Yeah, they come

2258
01:48:39,133 --> 01:48:42,213
Speaker 3: back all sweaty and stinky, and then they were saying

2259
01:48:42,213 --> 01:48:42,412
Speaker 3: that that.

2260
01:48:42,532 --> 01:48:44,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're active, were for the rest of the day.

2261
01:48:44,372 --> 01:48:45,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, A big no no.

2262
01:48:46,732 --> 01:48:49,812
Speaker 2: I think anytime that you stink at work is not

2263
01:48:49,933 --> 01:48:52,253
Speaker 2: a good thing, right, That's not a great thing. I

2264
01:48:52,293 --> 01:48:54,173
Speaker 2: just want to go back on a point people are saying.

2265
01:48:54,173 --> 01:48:57,173
Speaker 2: People are really being really empty this nudity in the

2266
01:48:57,213 --> 01:49:00,812
Speaker 2: in the in the changing rooms. Yeah, I disagree. I

2267
01:49:00,812 --> 01:49:02,492
Speaker 2: think I think you're allowed to be new, don't you. You

2268
01:49:02,492 --> 01:49:04,812
Speaker 2: go and have a shower, it's natural you go and

2269
01:49:04,933 --> 01:49:07,492
Speaker 2: shower and then you walk back and it's it's a tradition.

2270
01:49:07,492 --> 01:49:09,572
Speaker 2: It's definitely a traditional and sports sheds and I've talked

2271
01:49:09,612 --> 01:49:12,892
Speaker 2: to an all black before and he said that was

2272
01:49:13,053 --> 01:49:14,692
Speaker 2: a huge part of the bonding.

2273
01:49:14,893 --> 01:49:18,533
Speaker 3: That's a bonding that everyone gets new nude And.

2274
01:49:18,572 --> 01:49:21,052
Speaker 2: What do you got to hide? What's wrong? I mean,

2275
01:49:21,173 --> 01:49:24,692
Speaker 2: you know, I mean someone overly, you don't need to.

2276
01:49:24,772 --> 01:49:27,293
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously someone could be bending down in front

2277
01:49:27,293 --> 01:49:28,732
Speaker 2: of you. I mean there's a way to do it.

2278
01:49:28,572 --> 01:49:29,892
Speaker 2: But but if you want to go to this shower

2279
01:49:30,213 --> 01:49:33,972
Speaker 2: rather than trying to hang your your all your stuff

2280
01:49:34,093 --> 01:49:37,452
Speaker 2: up to cover yourself up coming back and that that

2281
01:49:37,532 --> 01:49:39,692
Speaker 2: you can't do that that that's that's too much, Edmund,

2282
01:49:40,612 --> 01:49:43,452
Speaker 2: I think there's nothing wrong with walking back and if

2283
01:49:43,452 --> 01:49:45,532
Speaker 2: it takes a little of time to cover up your towel.

2284
01:49:45,732 --> 01:49:47,572
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not talking about people that get completely

2285
01:49:47,652 --> 01:49:49,492
Speaker 2: nude and run around with a wet tawil trying to

2286
01:49:49,492 --> 01:49:51,652
Speaker 2: flick other people like we used to do it swimming

2287
01:49:51,652 --> 01:49:56,173
Speaker 2: when I was at school. That's too far, that's that's

2288
01:49:56,173 --> 01:49:58,012
Speaker 2: a step too far. But is it a big deal?

2289
01:49:58,053 --> 01:50:00,812
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all born nude. So if you can't

2290
01:50:00,853 --> 01:50:05,333
Speaker 2: walk around a gym changing changing shed for briefly, then

2291
01:50:05,532 --> 01:50:07,213
Speaker 2: then then what would we doing here? We're all here.

2292
01:50:07,293 --> 01:50:09,093
Speaker 3: Let's do a text poll on it. Nine to nine

2293
01:50:09,133 --> 01:50:13,493
Speaker 3: two excessive nudity in the gym locker room. You've had it, excessive, exceptable.

2294
01:50:13,492 --> 01:50:14,972
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I heard you say excessive.

2295
01:50:15,053 --> 01:50:18,452
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm saying, what would my word but

2296
01:50:18,933 --> 01:50:24,132
Speaker 2: reasonable nudity? She said, nudity, reasonable nudity and the changing

2297
01:50:24,133 --> 01:50:27,772
Speaker 2: shed respectful nudity in the changing room. I think that's

2298
01:50:27,772 --> 01:50:28,173
Speaker 2: all right.

2299
01:50:28,333 --> 01:50:29,972
Speaker 3: Nine two nine too. I'll tell you what. Maybe I'm

2300
01:50:30,013 --> 01:50:32,812
Speaker 3: the weird guy here, and easily I'm one hundred percent

2301
01:50:32,812 --> 01:50:34,412
Speaker 3: I'm the weird guy here that when I get into

2302
01:50:34,452 --> 01:50:37,772
Speaker 3: the gym locker room. I am into the shower, out

2303
01:50:37,772 --> 01:50:39,932
Speaker 3: of the shower and get dressed as fast as possible.

2304
01:50:39,933 --> 01:50:41,652
Speaker 3: I'm not hanging around in the nude as well.

2305
01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:43,412
Speaker 2: Have you got to hide, Tyler?

2306
01:50:43,612 --> 01:50:45,452
Speaker 3: Nothing? But I'm not there. You know, if I would

2307
01:50:45,492 --> 01:50:47,852
Speaker 3: ever chat to guys, I will get clothed before I

2308
01:50:47,893 --> 01:50:50,572
Speaker 3: have that chat. Sit around with me, you know, just

2309
01:50:50,812 --> 01:50:53,012
Speaker 3: lounge in the in the locker.

2310
01:50:52,853 --> 01:50:56,172
Speaker 2: Room having a weed chat. That's what I say respectful nudity.

2311
01:50:56,372 --> 01:50:59,333
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going up to a stranger, standing

2312
01:50:59,333 --> 01:51:01,932
Speaker 2: in front of them, leaning back, doing your stretches while

2313
01:51:01,973 --> 01:51:04,333
Speaker 2: trying to well talking to them, then that's excessive. But

2314
01:51:04,372 --> 01:51:07,013
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's just between the shower and

2315
01:51:07,013 --> 01:51:09,333
Speaker 2: getting back to your clothes and getting dressed. Then what

2316
01:51:09,333 --> 01:51:10,093
Speaker 2: are you supposed to do?

2317
01:51:10,293 --> 01:51:12,612
Speaker 3: What about the sauna? Do you utilize the sauna at

2318
01:51:12,652 --> 01:51:14,333
Speaker 3: the gym? You must have because saunas are great, They

2319
01:51:14,372 --> 01:51:16,972
Speaker 3: are very good after a good workout. Do you bring

2320
01:51:17,013 --> 01:51:18,412
Speaker 3: a towel with you or you just go?

2321
01:51:18,612 --> 01:51:20,532
Speaker 2: You've got to bring a towel with you otherwise you're

2322
01:51:20,532 --> 01:51:22,213
Speaker 2: sweating all over the over the bench.

2323
01:51:22,853 --> 01:51:24,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you go a bit but naked and

2324
01:51:24,652 --> 01:51:25,052
Speaker 3: the sauna.

2325
01:51:25,173 --> 01:51:25,972
Speaker 2: Just open the towel.

2326
01:51:26,093 --> 01:51:28,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, depends who's in there.

2327
01:51:28,853 --> 01:51:32,133
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, what did what did soprano do? I'm just

2328
01:51:32,173 --> 01:51:33,572
Speaker 2: trying to think I do whatever he does.

2329
01:51:34,253 --> 01:51:36,772
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty and the text number nine two,

2330
01:51:36,853 --> 01:51:39,452
Speaker 3: nine to two. They're already flooding in excess nudity or not.

2331
01:51:39,652 --> 01:51:41,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm putting together the list of I've got

2332
01:51:41,492 --> 01:51:43,772
Speaker 2: a list of all these complaints that the people have

2333
01:51:43,853 --> 01:51:47,852
Speaker 2: put through the flaws in gym etiquette, and I'll share

2334
01:51:47,893 --> 01:51:48,732
Speaker 2: them at the end of the show.

2335
01:51:48,772 --> 01:51:52,492
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a nation who loves sauna and getting

2336
01:51:52,492 --> 01:51:54,972
Speaker 3: a bit nude as Denmark get a wine?

2337
01:51:55,133 --> 01:51:55,372
Speaker 15: Is it?

2338
01:51:56,572 --> 01:51:56,812
Speaker 8: Yes?

2339
01:51:56,853 --> 01:51:57,133
Speaker 24: It is?

2340
01:51:57,173 --> 01:51:57,572
Speaker 8: How are you?

2341
01:51:57,652 --> 01:52:01,133
Speaker 3: Yeah? Good god, You've got a good gym story from Denmark. Yeah.

2342
01:52:01,293 --> 01:52:06,333
Speaker 8: So I went and lived in Denmark for about six

2343
01:52:06,412 --> 01:52:09,213
Speaker 8: months and I wasn't working, so I just go I'd

2344
01:52:09,213 --> 01:52:12,452
Speaker 8: go down to this local germ sauna. But they have

2345
01:52:12,532 --> 01:52:17,892
Speaker 8: these massive, big saunas steam bars, yep. And there was

2346
01:52:18,213 --> 01:52:21,173
Speaker 8: there's a group that was in there every day every

2347
01:52:21,253 --> 01:52:27,812
Speaker 8: day that I went down there, mostly immigrants, uh and

2348
01:52:27,812 --> 01:52:30,213
Speaker 8: and you know they'd all sit around and sit around

2349
01:52:30,213 --> 01:52:33,532
Speaker 8: all totally naked and chat. And then one day there

2350
01:52:33,612 --> 01:52:37,293
Speaker 8: was also unfortunately a group of quite right when guys

2351
01:52:37,333 --> 01:52:39,812
Speaker 8: who came in and all sat down and they are

2352
01:52:39,812 --> 01:52:43,492
Speaker 8: all no nude as well, and I couldn't really understand it,

2353
01:52:43,532 --> 01:52:46,372
Speaker 8: but insults started to fly and they started having this

2354
01:52:46,572 --> 01:52:51,452
Speaker 8: massive punch up and all naked, Wow, all naked in

2355
01:52:51,532 --> 01:52:53,812
Speaker 8: this in the steam room. It was just off the chart.

2356
01:52:54,133 --> 01:52:55,013
Speaker 2: Wowow?

2357
01:52:55,253 --> 01:52:56,932
Speaker 3: And what did you do? I mean, I suppose what

2358
01:52:56,933 --> 01:52:58,732
Speaker 3: do you do if you're watching this? There's not much

2359
01:52:58,772 --> 01:53:00,452
Speaker 3: you can do at that point. You can't get involved.

2360
01:53:01,452 --> 01:53:02,612
Speaker 8: Yea scarper.

2361
01:53:03,933 --> 01:53:05,852
Speaker 2: You put, you put your pants on, and you run out.

2362
01:53:06,452 --> 01:53:09,612
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah is when you're I've been

2363
01:53:09,652 --> 01:53:12,412
Speaker 2: in Japan not so long ago, and the on Sin

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Speaker 2: is an interesting situation of full nudity there. Yeah, and

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01:53:16,133 --> 01:53:18,572
Speaker 2: you're not allowed in the on Sen. Yes, your nude.

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01:53:18,612 --> 01:53:21,492
Speaker 2: It's the height of rudeness to try and go in

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01:53:21,532 --> 01:53:22,173
Speaker 2: there in a speedo.

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Speaker 3: And it'll be the same in Denmark as well, wouldn't it.

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01:53:25,053 --> 01:53:27,733
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, no, you weren't allowed to wear anything. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 8: it's great.

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01:53:28,213 --> 01:53:31,932
Speaker 3: Leveler, great level oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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01:53:31,933 --> 01:53:33,692
Speaker 3: We got time for a few more calls on this,

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01:53:33,973 --> 01:53:37,253
Speaker 3: and Heath, as you said, you've got a list of

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01:53:37,412 --> 01:53:38,772
Speaker 3: the world of people in the gym.

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01:53:38,612 --> 01:53:41,093
Speaker 2: You've come from. With all these calls we've got today,

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01:53:41,093 --> 01:53:43,932
Speaker 2: I have compoler lists, the ultimate list of Jim Etiquette.

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01:53:43,973 --> 01:53:45,852
Speaker 3: This is going to be good as twelve to four.

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01:53:47,492 --> 01:53:51,013
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:53:51,213 --> 01:53:52,212
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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Speaker 13: That Heath and Tyler Adams.

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01:53:53,973 --> 01:53:57,053
Speaker 1: Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US Talk said, be

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01:53:58,333 --> 01:53:59,173
Speaker 1: coming up at four.

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01:53:59,412 --> 01:54:02,293
Speaker 13: It's hither duplicy Allen Drave We've won.

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01:54:02,213 --> 01:54:04,732
Speaker 33: The war an inflation baby, so how much further will

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01:54:04,732 --> 01:54:07,172
Speaker 33: interest rate drop before the end of the year. Wellington

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01:54:07,173 --> 01:54:10,253
Speaker 33: City councilors are whole an emergency meeting with looming threats

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01:54:10,253 --> 01:54:12,093
Speaker 33: of government intervention. We're going to find out what happened

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01:54:12,133 --> 01:54:15,133
Speaker 33: behind those closed doors. Plus, we talked to a Daily

2389
01:54:15,133 --> 01:54:18,773
Speaker 33: Mail reporter about the world's obsession with the missing Mardikalpa family.

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01:54:19,973 --> 01:54:23,572
Speaker 1: Getting the answers you deserve either Duplicy Ellen Drive with

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01:54:23,812 --> 01:54:25,412
Speaker 1: One New Zealand next.

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01:54:25,213 --> 01:54:28,692
Speaker 3: On News Dogs v Right, we asked the question before

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01:54:29,013 --> 01:54:33,373
Speaker 3: excessive nudity in the locker room, yay or nay? It's close, Matt.

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01:54:33,173 --> 01:54:35,493
Speaker 2: Heath, Yeah, roughly, I mean they keep coming through, so

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01:54:35,533 --> 01:54:36,772
Speaker 2: it's hard to keep up with the count. But I'm

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01:54:36,772 --> 01:54:38,812
Speaker 2: going to say, and this is disappointing to me, because

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01:54:38,812 --> 01:54:41,852
Speaker 2: I'm a supporter of a certain amount of respectful nudity

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01:54:41,933 --> 01:54:45,413
Speaker 2: and a changing shed fifty five percent roughly, I'm going

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01:54:45,413 --> 01:54:48,972
Speaker 2: to say one hundred percent anti nudity in the changing

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01:54:48,973 --> 01:54:51,772
Speaker 2: sheds of the gym, and I don't know how you can.

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01:54:51,812 --> 01:54:53,892
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can achieve that getting back

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01:54:53,893 --> 01:54:56,213
Speaker 2: from the shower to unless you're hanging your stuff up

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01:54:56,213 --> 01:54:57,493
Speaker 2: at the risk of it falling on the ground and

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01:54:57,493 --> 01:55:00,053
Speaker 2: getting wet, and you're little in the showers. I don't

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01:55:00,053 --> 01:55:02,733
Speaker 2: have work. But fifty five percent anti nudity and forty

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01:55:02,733 --> 01:55:04,373
Speaker 2: five percent pro nudity.

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01:55:04,053 --> 01:55:06,852
Speaker 3: That's pretty close. Yeah, a couple of texts in that regard.

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01:55:06,933 --> 01:55:08,933
Speaker 3: Keep the junk and the trunk. I a year, go

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01:55:09,093 --> 01:55:12,293
Speaker 3: hard gear out in the sheds. I don't go nut

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01:55:12,373 --> 01:55:14,852
Speaker 3: on the lockers, otherwise other gents will truly feel I

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01:55:14,933 --> 01:55:16,213
Speaker 3: never feel like a man again.

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01:55:16,733 --> 01:55:20,012
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's that's very generous of you, very generous.

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01:55:20,053 --> 01:55:21,812
Speaker 3: I've got a decent reg so I don't mind being

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01:55:21,933 --> 01:55:24,133
Speaker 3: naked from Mars.

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01:55:24,133 --> 01:55:25,053
Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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01:55:26,013 --> 01:55:28,413
Speaker 3: Quick, a few more techs and then I want to

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01:55:28,453 --> 01:55:30,453
Speaker 3: hear this list that you've got, Mett Heath, It's obvious

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01:55:30,493 --> 01:55:32,973
Speaker 3: that you two boys have never played at rugby and

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01:55:33,093 --> 01:55:36,373
Speaker 3: enjoyed the camaraderie of the open showers. Being naked in

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01:55:36,413 --> 01:55:40,213
Speaker 3: the shower beside the dirty big prop is nothing compared

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01:55:40,213 --> 01:55:41,733
Speaker 3: to worrying about what he.

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01:55:42,213 --> 01:55:45,573
Speaker 2: Don't tire me with? Don't tire me with Tyler's brush.

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01:55:45,693 --> 01:55:48,333
Speaker 3: I was pro that, Yeah, yeah.

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01:55:48,173 --> 01:55:49,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, the team showers, go for it.

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01:55:49,933 --> 01:55:51,333
Speaker 3: Well you mentioned the all black and we're not going

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01:55:51,413 --> 01:55:53,533
Speaker 3: to name names here, but right behind it, that was

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01:55:53,573 --> 01:55:56,733
Speaker 3: how we got the team together. Yea uh and this

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01:55:56,812 --> 01:55:59,932
Speaker 3: one from Shame my wife chumped off that and we're

2429
01:55:59,933 --> 01:56:00,852
Speaker 3: going to read this one out.

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01:56:01,933 --> 01:56:02,133
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:56:02,253 --> 01:56:04,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife jumped off the bench and let out

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01:56:04,373 --> 01:56:05,972
Speaker 3: a bit of a squirrel when a guy chucked down

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01:56:06,013 --> 01:56:08,213
Speaker 3: the heaviest dumbbells in the gym. Hate it when they

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01:56:08,453 --> 01:56:10,852
Speaker 3: throw them down like they are at the Olympics. Chairs

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01:56:10,893 --> 01:56:11,453
Speaker 3: from Shane.

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01:56:11,453 --> 01:56:13,173
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it gives everyone a little bit of a fright,

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01:56:13,213 --> 01:56:16,932
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Okay, So my complete list here, please, Okay,

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01:56:17,053 --> 01:56:23,413
Speaker 2: So the complete list of Jim crimes as suggested by

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01:56:23,493 --> 01:56:28,493
Speaker 2: the callers to the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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01:56:28,533 --> 01:56:32,453
Speaker 2: on ZB seagulls. Seagulls so seagulls are groups of people

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01:56:32,453 --> 01:56:34,892
Speaker 2: that go to the gym together and they all stand

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01:56:35,053 --> 01:56:38,573
Speaker 2: around the machine where they go through their sets. Five

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01:56:39,453 --> 01:56:43,892
Speaker 2: up to five dudes standing around and occupying a machine

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01:56:43,533 --> 01:56:46,613
Speaker 2: for up to up to forty five minutes is a time.

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01:56:46,733 --> 01:56:47,733
Speaker 3: No one likes a seagull.

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01:56:47,812 --> 01:56:49,453
Speaker 2: No, go to the gym with your mate. But I

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01:56:49,453 --> 01:56:50,932
Speaker 2: think it's peers. You've got to peer off.

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01:56:51,053 --> 01:56:53,333
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's good, okay seagulls.

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01:56:53,453 --> 01:56:57,253
Speaker 2: Lounges. Lounges are people that use a machine like it's

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01:56:57,293 --> 01:57:01,892
Speaker 2: their chay's lounge at home. They do ten puny little

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01:57:01,973 --> 01:57:05,012
Speaker 2: reps and then they sit there doom scrolling on their

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01:57:05,053 --> 01:57:09,333
Speaker 2: phone for five minutes between set. Yeah, you only need

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01:57:09,373 --> 01:57:12,733
Speaker 2: sixty seconds. You only need sixty seconds between between sets.

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01:57:12,812 --> 01:57:14,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they are sitting up for a nice

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01:57:14,772 --> 01:57:17,253
Speaker 3: Sunday morning with a nice espresso on a newspaper.

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01:57:17,373 --> 01:57:21,653
Speaker 2: Just move on, finish up right. Loungers Lurkers Lurkers people

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01:57:21,693 --> 01:57:23,493
Speaker 2: that want to use the machine next, and they just

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01:57:23,533 --> 01:57:26,932
Speaker 2: sort of lurk around applying pressure instead of just changing

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01:57:26,973 --> 01:57:29,493
Speaker 2: their routine and going to another machine. You can you

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01:57:29,533 --> 01:57:31,413
Speaker 2: can ask to jump in and go set for set,

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01:57:32,772 --> 01:57:35,293
Speaker 2: or you can or you can find another place to

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01:57:35,333 --> 01:57:39,333
Speaker 2: be just sort of lurking around, standing slightly too close God.

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01:57:39,853 --> 01:57:43,733
Speaker 2: Exhibitionists and their people will will have come out in

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01:57:43,733 --> 01:57:48,812
Speaker 2: support of respectful nudity or exhibitionists, people that are putting

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01:57:48,853 --> 01:57:51,933
Speaker 2: on a whole show in the sheds. There's been a

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01:57:51,973 --> 01:57:55,333
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of people unhappy with that. Spielberg's

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01:57:56,413 --> 01:58:01,413
Speaker 2: people that are running a film film shoot in the gym.

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01:58:01,812 --> 01:58:04,333
Speaker 2: Do you really need to film it for I'm sure

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01:58:04,333 --> 01:58:08,892
Speaker 2: you're especially you know, a social media influencer, and they've

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01:58:08,893 --> 01:58:12,733
Speaker 2: got about forty eight people in the background extras, involuntary

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01:58:12,733 --> 01:58:13,853
Speaker 2: extras in the background.

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01:58:14,213 --> 01:58:14,653
Speaker 3: Quakers.

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01:58:14,933 --> 01:58:17,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking about the religious group. Between people

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01:58:18,413 --> 01:58:21,653
Speaker 2: that repeatedly drop their dumbbells so loud that the entire

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01:58:21,733 --> 01:58:27,893
Speaker 2: gym turns round. And finally stinkers, people that smell horrifically

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01:58:27,933 --> 01:58:28,772
Speaker 2: bad at the gym.

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01:58:28,853 --> 01:58:29,573
Speaker 3: That's a great list.

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01:58:29,613 --> 01:58:29,973
Speaker 10: Here you go.

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01:58:30,013 --> 01:58:32,533
Speaker 2: There's a list, the complete list of Jim Crimes.

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01:58:32,293 --> 01:58:37,133
Speaker 3: Seagulls, lounges, lurkers, exhibition as, Spielberg's, Quakers, and stinkers.

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01:58:37,133 --> 01:58:37,852
Speaker 2: Are you one of them?

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01:58:38,133 --> 01:58:38,333
Speaker 15: Yep?

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01:58:38,613 --> 01:58:40,852
Speaker 3: Be better We're going to get that to Jim owners

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01:58:40,893 --> 01:58:43,213
Speaker 3: to post art right on the door. We don't want

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01:58:43,213 --> 01:58:45,972
Speaker 3: these people. Hey, good chat, Thank you very much for today.

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01:58:47,093 --> 01:58:49,413
Speaker 3: Don't forget. We've got the podcast out. You can get

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01:58:49,453 --> 01:58:53,453
Speaker 3: it wherever you find your podcast iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts. That's

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01:58:53,493 --> 01:58:56,013
Speaker 3: going to go up online at four thirty pm.

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01:58:56,093 --> 01:58:58,453
Speaker 2: All right, been great chat today, Thank you for listening,

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01:58:58,493 --> 01:58:59,253
Speaker 2: and we'll see tomorrow.

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01:58:59,333 --> 01:59:01,413
Speaker 3: We'll do it all again tomorrow. Here they do, please

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01:59:01,413 --> 01:59:03,932
Speaker 3: s yell them with you on the drive home four

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01:59:03,973 --> 01:59:05,812
Speaker 3: to four. We will see you tomorrow.

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