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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Judith Collins a very happy minister this afternoon. She

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time. Thirteen minutes after four, you're on

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, question is can they afford it? You know, even

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Speaker 6: Honestly, the Warriors will win the NRL before we get

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Speaker 3: Four on news Talks hereb. I went to a work

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Speaker 12: Lot of money that's going to be poured through those

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Speaker 12: But this was trying to get some of those foreign

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Speaker 13: A lot to do here.

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Speaker 12: You should invest here, you should keep some people here,

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Speaker 3: That was a news Talks.

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Speaker 1: There'd be extra recamping the day's big news and making

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Speaker 14: That'd be it is twenty four minutes away from five.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you coming this afternoon. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: I like this text from Naked says Ryan. My dad

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Speaker 3: this about this guy Kiwi. Guy goes to the pub,

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Speaker 3: He'd be drive this group chat business over in Washington

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Speaker 11: I think the world of a lot of the people

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Speaker 3: Over in Australia does and says he'll repeal the government's

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Speaker 15: I can't find any example of any opposition or government

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Speaker 3: Finally, this afternoon, an Italian politician has proposed that babies

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 3: And should keep them happy. Murray Old's Australia correspondent, Hi Murray,

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Speaker 3: very good afternoon. Ryan Elbow visiting the Governor General on Friday.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what for.

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Speaker 16: Well one does not like to boast, But I did

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Speaker 17: In apply address, he's.

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Speaker 16: Going to reveal policies we understand on things like housing,

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Speaker 16: May the third, I think I've mentioned and the coalition,

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Speaker 3: So you because I was going to say it's too

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Speaker 16: Who knows? It depends? It depends. I mean we all

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Speaker 16: goodness sake. So look, it depends how hard up people

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Speaker 16: The taxpayers will take home an extra five bucks a

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Speaker 16: the both sides are spending money we haven't got and

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Speaker 16: are very much unlike you to see if Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, and you've got your deficits for the next

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Speaker 16: Don't even go there.

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Speaker 3: God, Hey, this Australian. He's not going to care or

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Speaker 16: Nat And look, I must confess I'm not familiar with

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Speaker 16: mister Gennett's work, but he's nicknamed the Golden God. I

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Speaker 16: had to look at him online. He's got biceps the

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Speaker 16: emerged as the winner. He's previously beat on these similar

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Speaker 16: shows here in Australia. Again, I can't report on his

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Speaker 16: expertise one bay or the other because I'd rather pluck

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Speaker 16: my eyes out than watch that stuff.

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Speaker 9: But suffice to.

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Speaker 16: Say, mister Gennett is just off to the bank with

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Speaker 16: a check. An amazing Gregory Peck for going on Telly

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Speaker 16: and basically shooting down everybody else. So well done him.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he's a model in Perth. There you go, and

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Speaker 3: ten million dollars is not to be scoffed at.

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Speaker 16: No kidding.

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Speaker 3: Mary in the Tanning cell on boat Murray, thank you

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Speaker 3: for that. Murray Olds are Australia correspondent seventeen minutes away

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Speaker 3: from five. You're on News Talk to B Paul says Ryan,

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Speaker 3: can we not name and shame the insurance company over

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Speaker 3: this thing? We don't actually know because it's come from

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Speaker 3: a dispute service, so we don't actually know the name

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Speaker 3: of the insurance company. But I'll see if Laura has

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Speaker 3: the name, and then if she does, we'll just tettle,

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Speaker 3: just say it because her cares seventeen away from five.

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Speaker 3: You're on news talks. Here'd be hydrogen tru for sale.

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Speaker 3: Fifty ton hydrogen trucks. Get your hydrogen trucks. They are

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Speaker 3: only two of them apparently currently on the market. They've

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Speaker 3: announced in a big fancy press release today that these

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Speaker 3: are going on sale. Will tell you more about those

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Speaker 3: after five to two. How on earth do you How

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Speaker 3: long does it take to fill them up? Where do

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Speaker 3: you get it? How available is it? All that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff? Barry Soap is here right now, Good afternoon, afternoon.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 3: You like the sound of a hydrogen truck hard to

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Speaker 3: drive a truck period.

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Speaker 7: Sounds like a bomb to me, you know, there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point now, Tamotha Paul, speaking of bombs,

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Speaker 3: this has gone down like a lead balloon.

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Speaker 7: She's a bomb shell, yes, in Parliament at the moment. Honestly,

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Speaker 7: well she should be a shell because there's not a

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Speaker 7: lot of substance there. I've got to say it's interesting though.

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Speaker 7: Today in Parliament the Green sat silent as the Police

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Speaker 7: Minister was being questioned on the move that Tamatha Paul

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Speaker 7: said she would like is to see beat cops removed.

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Speaker 7: You remember the parties, she's the party spokeswoman on police.

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Speaker 7: She talked about the abolition of police, saying a heavier

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Speaker 7: presence of them on the beat makes people feel less safe.

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Speaker 7: God only knows where she got that from. The Wellington

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Speaker 7: Central mp also talked about police moving in on the

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Speaker 7: homeless and putting their belongings in the rubbish. While all

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Speaker 7: this was news to the Minister, Mark Mitchell, who told

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Speaker 7: Parliament today the voter should be aware of the statement

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Speaker 7: being made at the moment by the.

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Speaker 18: Green they should be very worried about the prospect of

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Speaker 18: any government, including a party that entertains the abolition of

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Speaker 18: the police.

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Speaker 19: Peters the Weather's had any submissions from the people in

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Speaker 19: the leafy suburbs of Candada, Kilbourne and Coori now in

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Speaker 19: Wellington Central. The latter's boundary change as to their opposition

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Speaker 19: to having police on the beat and properly policing their suburbs.

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Speaker 18: I have not personally received one submission from anyone in

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Speaker 18: the country to say that they're not happy were seeing

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Speaker 18: our police officers highly visible.

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Speaker 7: See and that proves my point that I was talking

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Speaker 7: about yesterday, how the boundary changes could affect Tamatha Paul

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Speaker 7: because she's taking in an area where people probably love

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Speaker 7: seeing police on the beat. Daala, Yeah, they're not dead

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Speaker 7: beats like they are in some parts of central Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Clearly, now the Green's scoring something of a night say

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Speaker 3: what you really think which, yeah, you're going to name

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Speaker 3: the subject in particular areas, the Green scored something of

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Speaker 3: an own goal again in the debating game.

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Speaker 7: They were on their feat later, which is rather surprising.

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Speaker 7: Our old mate Ricardo Mendia's march. She was railing against

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Speaker 7: the sanctions being imposed on beneficiaries. That's the traffic light

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Speaker 7: system that sees their benefits reduced if they refuse to

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Speaker 7: look for work. Well Mendia's march, dressed in a leather jacket,

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Speaker 7: was firing questions at the Employment Minister Louise Upston, who

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Speaker 7: gave better than she got.

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Speaker 15: Forty percent of benefit entitlements are not even assessed correctly.

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Speaker 20: Well, I'm not sure that that figure is correct, but

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Speaker 20: what I will say is that some are overpaid and

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Speaker 20: that is equally a problem as if they are underpaid.

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Speaker 19: Right, Honorable winstonpeeds on the principle that you don't get

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Speaker 19: a second chance to make a first impression. What chance

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Speaker 19: will the jobs she could have? They turned up for

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Speaker 19: the job wearing a leather jacket.

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Speaker 17: I'm not sure unless it had a patch.

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Speaker 21: I'm not sure that there's an answer to that unless

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Speaker 21: the Minister is aware of something that I'm not.

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Speaker 20: What they wear is entirely needs to be appropriate for

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Speaker 20: the job they're applying for or in this case, the

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Speaker 20: job they've got.

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Speaker 7: She was roudly applauded to that from the government benches

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Speaker 7: on my dad.

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Speaker 3: That's funny. Now, Elon Musk the what the Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: of the beehive?

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Speaker 7: She is, isn't she?

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Speaker 3: Judith Colums? I mean, she's incredible.

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Speaker 7: She came out today with the figures and which is

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Speaker 7: quite extraordinary because you.

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Speaker 22: Know the.

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Speaker 7: Basically consultants and contractors. She said that they would save

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Speaker 7: four hundred million in the first year on them. While

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Speaker 7: they're bettering that target they've saved. She says eight hundred

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Speaker 7: million will be by the end of June. So those

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Speaker 7: poor sods who are involved in pr in the capital

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Speaker 7: will be doing it pretty hard at the moment. But

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Speaker 7: the Public Service Commission, they came out with data today

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Speaker 7: today showing that the workforce decreased by four percent, So

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Speaker 7: big numbers. You're looking at the public service now at

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Speaker 7: almost sixty three thousand. There were a couple of thousand

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Speaker 7: more than that before this government took offers, and that

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Speaker 7: doesn't include police, teachers and the like. Well, Judith Collins,

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Speaker 7: she gave a pretty clear impression. I thought in Parliament

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Speaker 7: that the public service has in some areas been politicized.

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Speaker 7: Here she is defending the cuts to the public service.

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Speaker 3: Number.

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Speaker 17: Expect the public service to get back to basics, sticking

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Speaker 17: to its core functions and delivering outcomes for the taxpayers

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Speaker 17: that we all serve. I also want to see core

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Speaker 17: principles of the public service maintained, like political neutrality, like

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Speaker 17: appointment on merits to all positions and professional competence.

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Speaker 7: See that political neutrality thing is quite interesting, isn't it,

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Speaker 7: Because clearly this government felt under siege. I think in

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Speaker 7: the first year that it took offers that they were

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Speaker 7: being undermined by the public service, and I think to

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Speaker 7: a large extent they were. That public servants were leaking

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Speaker 7: like sieves to the media and anything negative about the

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Speaker 7: government was being picked up and really used in a

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Speaker 7: way to try and discredit the government. That you know,

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Speaker 7: the public service was bloated, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 7: But then normally when you cut back, you take on

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Speaker 7: more consultants. Well, that's not going to be.

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Speaker 3: The case, and it's not the numbers bear that out

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Speaker 3: do colins to beyond the shaft five and ask her

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Speaker 3: about that. But just on the public service neutrality, I

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Speaker 3: was talking to a public servant out of the day

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Speaker 3: who said when the treaty protests were happening down in Wellington,

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Speaker 3: of course a lot of these public servants went and

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Speaker 3: took part during the during worktime and then went back

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Speaker 3: to the office and they were still wearing their getting

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Speaker 3: shues with the T shirts and the branding and everything.

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Speaker 3: So you can't do that, No, you can't service.

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Speaker 7: No, you can't.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter whether you're supporting a COVID nineteen

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Speaker 3: anti VAXX thing or a treaty thing. You can't do that.

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Speaker 7: Well, you meant to be impartial, you meant to be

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Speaker 7: a servant of the public and the public without political persuasion.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I think we've seen that line being

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Speaker 7: crossed quite a bit lately.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent, News TALKSB thanks to your

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Speaker 3: time this afternoon, as always eight minutes away from five.

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Speaker 3: We will have Judith Collins after five on those numbers

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Speaker 3: and the number of people still working in the public service. Remember,

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Speaker 3: it was forty nine thousand before COVID, before labor it

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Speaker 3: was forty nine thousand. It's still now up over sixty

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Speaker 3: So do they need to bring it down further?

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Speaker 1: Putting the time questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 3: More new law for courts and sentencing.

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Speaker 4: So the Sentencing Reform Amendment Bill that passed its third reading.

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Speaker 4: Law Association VP Julienkin Cage back, weill this now you submitted,

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Speaker 4: Did they listen to you?

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Speaker 13: This is a.

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Speaker 23: Wonderful example of democracy and action. I think there are

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Speaker 23: a lot of people who submitted at the select committee

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Speaker 23: stage expressing very similar concerns, and they seem to have

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Speaker 23: been reflected in the changes that took place after that

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Speaker 23: Select Committee stage. One of the ideas was is forty

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Speaker 23: percent and that has been softened and it has been

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Speaker 23: now allowing four examples, specifically for examples where people provide

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Speaker 23: information which prevents further serious crime taking place.

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Speaker 4: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 4: the Rain Driver the last News Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZB four minutes away from five on News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: You thought the crusher Collins was brutal and slashing and

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Speaker 3: burning the consultant spend. Look over at the UK at

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Speaker 3: the secret slasher, burner, cutter of spending. And Rachel Reeves,

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Speaker 3: the Chancellor of the Exchequer. She's a labor you know,

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Speaker 3: holds the labor perse strings and she has just delivered

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Speaker 3: her and we told you this yesterday. She was going

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Speaker 3: to do her spring speech and she has delivered some

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Speaker 3: pretty significant cuts to beneficiaries. So she's being accused of

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Speaker 3: balancing the box on the back of the UK's poorest beneficiaries.

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Speaker 3: Some three million households could lose seventeen hundred pounds a

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Speaker 3: year in benefits as a result of the changes that

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Speaker 3: she out London the speech. So we'll talk to Andon

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Speaker 3: Brady about all of that before seven o'clock and we

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Speaker 3: will talk to the og slasher Berner Judith Collins after

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Speaker 3: five news talks MB.

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Speaker 17: Today.

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Speaker 8: How aren't you I need you Olga ah need.

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Speaker 3: It is beautiful, says it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust

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Speaker 1: for the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy allan

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be good evening. It's five oh seven News talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be great to have your company this evening. The

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Speaker 3: government's almost doubling its targets for cuts to consultants and

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Speaker 3: contract to costs. Remember during the election this was a

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Speaker 3: big deal for national Public Service. Minister Judith Collins has

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Speaker 3: come out today and said they're on track to save

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Speaker 3: eight hundred million dollars over two years instead of four

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Speaker 3: hundred Ministers with me now, good evening.

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Speaker 17: Oh, good evening, Ryan, So.

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Speaker 3: How do you manage to double your cuts?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think it's just very clear messages that Nichola

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Speaker 17: Wallis has given and now me as the minister, that

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Speaker 17: we need the public service doing the work that it's

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Speaker 17: paid to do and not asking consultants in contracts to

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Speaker 17: do that work. At the same time understanding if there's

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Speaker 17: a specialist area that makes sense to use it. But

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Speaker 17: this is eight hundred million dollars of tax payer money

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Speaker 17: that's now being saved. So that's pretty much it's very

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Speaker 17: clear message.

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Speaker 3: Are there more full time public servants doing the work

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Speaker 3: of the consultants that otherwise would have been found out?

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Speaker 17: Well, no, because the numbers have actually dropped by about

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Speaker 17: four percent. So what's clearly working is more let's say,

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Speaker 17: more productivity I expect if it's a four percent drop

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Speaker 17: in the core public service, which are basically your your bureaucracy,

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Speaker 17: not your nurses and doctors and police officers, and that

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Speaker 17: so quite clearly people are working better, but more people

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Speaker 17: focused I think on delivering better results taxpayers.

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Speaker 3: I think people will be surprised to hear that it's

660
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Speaker 3: only down four percent. You know, December twenty three we

661
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Speaker 3: had sixty five thousand. We're still at sixty two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Pre COVID, pre labor, we had forty nine thousand. You

663
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Speaker 3: guys said we were going to cut right back. They bloated.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're still bloated, aren't we.

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Speaker 24: Well.

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Speaker 17: I I certainly think that there is still a lot

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Speaker 17: of room for improvement. And so one of the things

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Speaker 17: that we're going to be doing is changing the Public

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Speaker 17: Service Act because that requires public servants and the chief

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Speaker 17: executives to be involved in all sorts of things. They

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Speaker 17: have nothing to do with delivering for the New Zealand taxpayers.

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Speaker 17: So we're bringing everything back to basics. You're going to

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Speaker 17: see more changes.

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Speaker 3: So like, what what are they doing that's not basic?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think what we've seen is reporting on everything, feeling,

676
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Speaker 17: all the sort of well being stuff. You know, just

677
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Speaker 17: get back to the basics, do the job well.

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Speaker 3: So you'll make changes to the Public Service Act. You'll

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Speaker 3: cut out the nonsense, the well being stuff, and that

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Speaker 3: will mean you can let guards some more staff.

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Speaker 17: Yeah. So I think it's really important though that when

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Speaker 17: you've got the staff working and try and do their best,

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Speaker 17: that we help them to do that. One of the

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Speaker 17: things is to get all the stuff out of the

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Speaker 17: way they don't need to be doing and just keep

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Speaker 17: them focused.

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Speaker 3: But are you happy with sixty two, nine hundred and

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Speaker 3: sixty eight core public servants.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think that looks like a ridiculous number compared

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Speaker 17: to what it was six years before National came back

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Speaker 17: and when you look at those increases, you'd have to say,

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Speaker 17: and what fanue for money? Is the taxpayer getting for it?

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Speaker 17: And I think that's why every agency is being told

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Speaker 17: you have your budget, you need to live with it,

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Speaker 17: and if you can deliver savings, that looks very good

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Speaker 17: for you and your future.

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Speaker 3: So do you like the number or not?

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Speaker 17: No, I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: What should it be to me?

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Speaker 17: Well, I think it should be far closer to where

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Speaker 17: it was, but.

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Speaker 3: Which is forty nine thou so you've got to be

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Speaker 3: really close to that. You've got to get rid of

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Speaker 3: another twelve thirteen thousand people public service.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think you look and see what is it

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Speaker 17: people are doing. Is it something that's worthwhile? Is it

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Speaker 17: going to add value for the taxpayer? If it's not,

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Speaker 17: why are we doing it? So these are some of

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Speaker 17: the very tough questions that we're putting to chief executives,

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Speaker 17: and you're going to see that. One of the things

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Speaker 17: they've said to us is that the Public Service Act,

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Speaker 17: which was changed in twenty twenty under the durn government,

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Speaker 17: that needs to change because it's added all this extra

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Speaker 17: complexity onto the public servants jobs and they need to

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Speaker 17: get that.

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Speaker 3: So we're going when we're getting that, are you.

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00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 17: Going to start seeing that coming through pretty soon? We've

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Speaker 17: got papers going to through the cabinet process, and you're

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Speaker 17: going to find that things are going to change, and

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Speaker 17: they're going to change the better. I reckon a lot

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Speaker 17: of public servants are going to say thank you very

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Speaker 17: much for making their job more efficient and effective.

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Speaker 3: All right, hey minister, do you signal I do?

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Speaker 17: Indeed?

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Speaker 3: What do you use it for?

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Speaker 17: Things like here's a photo, or here's a good story,

727
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 17: or here's something else. So it's basically communications. But what

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Speaker 17: we don't use it for is anything that's secure or restricted.

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Speaker 3: What do you use? Because they've got all sorts of

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Speaker 3: fancy equipment over in the US do we I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you go overseas on a trip to China or whatever,

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Speaker 3: do you get special equipment? What do you use?

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Speaker 17: Well, if we go into places where we need to

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Speaker 17: be particularly aware of our our security of telephones and

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Speaker 17: enophones is that we normally would use burner phones, So

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Speaker 17: we generally don't take anything that is restricted in any.

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Speaker 3: Way with us.

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Speaker 17: We just can't do that.

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Speaker 3: Then you just throw them in the bin. What do

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Speaker 3: you do with them?

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Speaker 17: Or we give them back? To the agency that gave

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Speaker 17: them to us in the first place. So we do

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Speaker 17: lots of things like that. That's pretty standard for ministers.

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Speaker 3: All right, Minster, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like you might need a glass of water after that. One,

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Speaker 3: really appreciate it. Just gone telve after five rich chelsian

747
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Speaker 3: Z's released a big review of its care over the

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Speaker 3: past decade. Some stuff's better, patient fools are better, infection's better,

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Speaker 3: patient mortality. They've improved on that. But more people are

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Speaker 3: waiting for longer than four months to see a specialist.

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Speaker 3: Richard Sullivan's Health end Z Chief Clinical Officeries with me. Now, Hi, hello, Ran, Yeah, good,

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Speaker 3: thank you. So let's get straight into this. One of

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Speaker 3: the numbers. So one of the numbers here is a

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Speaker 3: specialist assessment wait times. People are waiting more than four months,

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Speaker 3: and that number is four times the number that we're

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Speaker 3: waiting pre COVID February twenty twenty. Is this all down

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Speaker 3: to COVID?

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Speaker 25: A lot of this, Ryan, that's right. You know, the

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Speaker 25: time for a patient to be seen by a hostile

760
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Speaker 25: specialist has increased significantly and COVID played a part in that.

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Speaker 25: We saw that grow post COVID, but we saw it

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Speaker 25: grow even further. We've had a real focus on this area,

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Speaker 25: we started to see the numbers stabilized. We've seen a

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Speaker 25: small improvement, but we've got a long way to go.

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Speaker 25: This is one of the health targets reaching ninety five percent.

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Speaker 25: We're currently sitting at around sixty so we've got a

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Speaker 25: big focus on im breving that.

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Speaker 3: How long does it take you? So we're at sixty

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Speaker 3: percent of where we should be, we need to get

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Speaker 3: to ninety five How long does that take?

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Speaker 25: Look there there are tens of thousands, if not you know,

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Speaker 25: close to over one hundred thousand people on that list,

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Speaker 25: So that is going to take us some time because

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Speaker 25: we need to continue to see those people being will

775
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Speaker 25: fit in as well as get people off the list.

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Speaker 25: So we're having a real focus on those patients who

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Speaker 25: are waking beyond one hundred and twenty days. We equally

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Speaker 25: a really important focus on those who have the greatest

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Speaker 25: clinical need. So this is going to take us many

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Speaker 25: years to bring ourselves to ninety five percent. We have

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Speaker 25: a plan in place with a key targets within that

782
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Speaker 25: that we need to meet so we can get back

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Speaker 25: on back.

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Speaker 3: And do you know how many years, how many years

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Speaker 3: before we get to know.

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Speaker 25: Look, we've got a twenty thirty target. That's you know,

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Speaker 25: that's sort of five six, five years away. That's a

788
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Speaker 25: long time, but that is there is a real, you know,

789
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Speaker 25: bottle to get ourselves to that place.

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Speaker 3: All right, Really appreciate your time this afternoon from Healthy

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Speaker 3: en Z the head I clinical lead Richard Sullivan on

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Speaker 3: the phone. Just gone quarter past five News Talk ZB

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Speaker 3: Still they're still debating the stadium at Auckland Council. By

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Speaker 3: the way, if you're just joining us, we've been on

795
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Speaker 3: stadium watch, so you'll remember we told you the other

796
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Speaker 3: day the council is yet to decide whether they're going

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Speaker 3: to go with the eden Park option or go with

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Speaker 3: this the waterfront option. We'll have an update for you

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Speaker 3: after the break, and we'll also talk to a lawyer

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Speaker 3: about this man who had just a couple of beers,

801
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Speaker 3: just a couple of casual beers, jumped in his car,

802
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Speaker 3: had a bit of a praying and his insurance wouldn't

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Speaker 3: pay out, not because he was drunk, but just because

804
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Speaker 3: he had touched alcohol. So what are your rights when

805
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Speaker 3: it comes to insurance company and drinking boots quarter past

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Speaker 3: five five eighteen News Talk said be Eden Park or

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Speaker 3: the waterfront. These are the options that all con councils

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Speaker 3: weighing up at the moment over the new stadium, the

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Speaker 3: new National Stadium, and they are still deciding. They've extended

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Speaker 3: their meeting beyond I think it was meant to finish

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Speaker 3: it four. It's now meant to finish around six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: So something happens, we'll let you know. But this is

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Speaker 3: Josephine Bartley, she's all con counselors. She's worried about and

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Speaker 3: by the way, in Park is the easy option for

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Speaker 3: them because it shoves one hundred million dollars of cost

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Speaker 3: onto the rest of the country in taxpayers. Anyway, here's

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Speaker 3: Josephin Bartley. She's worried about the cost to rate payers

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Speaker 3: from paying for the rest of Eden Park. Two point one.

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Speaker 17: Why would the government seek our endorsement?

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Speaker 19: Is it?

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Speaker 17: Could it end up being we say, yes, we endorse

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Speaker 17: this Eden Park, and then the government says, well, because

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Speaker 17: you guys endorsed it, you should pay something.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Britch should point. I suppose now a man goes

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Speaker 3: to the bar, has a few drinks, comes out prings

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Speaker 3: another car and then tries to claim insurance. He's only

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Speaker 3: had two beers. His insurance claim has declined on the

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Speaker 3: basis that he was under the influence of alcohol. Now,

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Speaker 3: the claim was initially declined because he was under the influence,

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Speaker 3: but was he appeared He says, I just had two beers,

831
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Speaker 3: was hardly inebriated, and he volunteered this to the insurance company.

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Speaker 3: By the way, went to a dispute and he won,

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Speaker 3: so in the end the insurance did have to pay.

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Speaker 3: But how many people are missing out on unjust claim rejections.

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Speaker 3: Barrister Chris Patterson with US tonight. Hi Chris, Hey, Hi Ryan.

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Speaker 3: First of all, what's the deal with booze and insurance?

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Speaker 9: Okay, so this is all about the wording and the

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Speaker 9: insurance policy. You know, if you're someone who reads the

839
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Speaker 9: insurance policy, there's good. If you're someone who doesn't, then

840
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 9: you take a little bit of a risk. The insurance

841
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 9: policy says no booze, and you've been drinking booze, you're

842
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Speaker 9: avoiding your policy and they can decline cover. If your

843
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Speaker 9: policy says that you can't be impaired, then the owner

844
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Speaker 9: sits on the insurance company. They've got to prove if

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Speaker 9: they're going to decline a claim that a couple of

846
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Speaker 9: beers made you an impaired driver. Easy if they've got

847
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Speaker 9: a breath test because you've been pulled over and you're

848
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Speaker 9: over the limit. Not so easy if you just say

849
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Speaker 9: you've had a couple of beers during the course of

850
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Speaker 9: an afternoon and his tolerance levels pretty high.

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Speaker 3: Can they make you do a brief test or some

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Speaker 3: kind of test? I guess it would depend on when

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Speaker 3: you report the accident, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, they can't make you do the test, and

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Speaker 9: you're right, it's going to depend on when you report

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Speaker 9: the accent. I mean, if you're reporting it several days later,

857
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Speaker 9: it's probably not going to be particularly relevant. But they

858
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Speaker 9: can't make you do a test. But usually it's all circumstances.

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Speaker 9: So in the case that the story is about, they

860
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Speaker 9: managed to get the insured bank account details and saw

861
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Speaker 9: how many beers he was buying at the bar, and

862
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Speaker 9: there was a dispute about how many bears he actually drank.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what about the general rules here or lesson here

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Speaker 3: for the rest of us. Should we should you always

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Speaker 3: fight if you get rejected from an insurance come should

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Speaker 3: you always fight. I mean, how often do people actually

867
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Speaker 3: win this stuff?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Well, look, I think the starting point is, you know,

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Speaker 9: do you feel like you've been wronged. If you've been wronged,

870
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Speaker 9: then yeah, it's worth taking insurance company on. If you

871
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Speaker 9: know that the insurance companies on good grounds, because the

872
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 9: grounds they gave you a fear and you accept them,

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Speaker 9: probably not worth taking them on over it. So each case,

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Speaker 9: dearby cappy case, All right, Chris.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just basically won't drink and drives. That's the

876
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Speaker 3: moral of the story, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: Look that's the easy one. The other moral of the

878
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Speaker 9: story is, know what the exclusions are in your insurance policy.

879
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Speaker 9: If if drinking any boozeres it will exclude liability, don't

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Speaker 9: drink anything at all. If it's if it's an impairment,

881
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Speaker 9: then yeah, you are.

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Speaker 26: Taking a risk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Appreciate your time, Chris, Thanks so much. Chris Patterson,

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Speaker 3: barrister working in insurance disputes. Time is twenty two minutes

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Speaker 3: after five.

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Speaker 1: This is a news talk edb developing story.

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Speaker 3: And breaking news this evening. Auckland Council has voted to

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Speaker 3: endorse Eden Park as the city's main stadium at favored

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Speaker 3: the park over the new side at Key Park near

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Speaker 3: Auckland's waterfront. This after hours of discussing that today's governing

891
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Speaker 3: body meeting. The final vote was carried seventeen to two

892
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Speaker 3: against with one abstension. That's pretty overwhelming for Eden Park

893
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Speaker 3: two point one. Nick Sautner, who's the CEO, will be

894
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Speaker 3: very happy with that. We'll speak to him a little

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Speaker 3: later in the program. You're on News TALKSB twenty three

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Speaker 3: after five.

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Speaker 1: Informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on hither

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Speaker 1: dupericy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. Good evening, it is twenty five after five.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company. We are the shape the

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Speaker 3: isles here in New Zealand and we've been reminded of

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Speaker 3: that this week Heaven. We we've had the earthquake down

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Speaker 3: and off the coast of south Land. We've had the

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Speaker 3: volcanic activity White Island. Again it's been all go. And

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Speaker 3: also just for good measure. Over in the EU at

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Speaker 3: the moment, they are releasing their first be Prepared Strategy

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Speaker 3: for disaster. This is for disasters, you know, natural disasters,

908
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Speaker 3: but also military attack etc. And they say you need

909
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Speaker 3: seventy two hours of self sufficiency. Basically you're on your

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Speaker 3: own for seventy two hours. And I thought, I wonder

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Speaker 3: what ours? I mean, I know the general guidelines for

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Speaker 3: being prepared in New Zealand, but what does our government

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Speaker 3: actually tell us about being prepared? So we have get

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Speaker 3: Ready dot gov dot NZ. You go along there. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. I mean, you really need to

916
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Speaker 3: think about this heart. So many places that you could

917
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Speaker 3: be when so many bad things could happen to you,

918
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Speaker 3: so many things could go wrong, you know when doomseday strikes?

919
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Speaker 3: Will you be in your car? Will you be in

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Speaker 3: your house? Will you be at work? So this is

921
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Speaker 3: what they tell you you need and where you need it.

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Speaker 3: At your home. You need nine liters of water per

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Speaker 3: person in your household. Do you have that amount sitting

924
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Speaker 3: around in the garage? No, you don't. You need long

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Speaker 3: lasting food items. And it also mentions here don't forget

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Speaker 3: your pets, which I can understand, but it also says

927
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Speaker 3: don't forget your babies. Who forgets their baby toilet paper?

928
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Speaker 3: You need working gloves and a mask in case you

929
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Speaker 3: need to start doing some cleanup after a natural disaster.

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Speaker 3: You also need separately to this a grab bag with shoes,

931
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Speaker 3: warm clothes, a raincoat, a hat, water snacks, hand sanitizer,

932
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Speaker 3: a charger, cash, copies of all of your identification. And

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Speaker 3: then in your car you need separately a brush, a shovel,

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Speaker 3: tire chains, windshelled scrapers and warm clothing. I haven't even

935
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Speaker 3: got to what you need at your workplace yet. I mean,

936
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Speaker 3: is this a little over preeping for people at this point?

937
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Speaker 3: If you know, if there's a tidal wave coming, I

938
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Speaker 3: think I would just give up. I would, I would

939
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Speaker 3: just give up. Twenty eight after five Bryan Bridge News

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Speaker 3: Talks EB. We're going to talk to after six o'clock.

941
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Speaker 3: We mentioned earlier in the show about the land use

942
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Speaker 3: changes that Chris Bishop's pushing through. We'll talk to a

943
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Speaker 3: lawyer about those coming up after sixth and we'll get

944
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Speaker 3: to hopefully Nick Suton from Eden Park be a happy

945
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Speaker 3: man after that vote from Auckland Council. You're on news

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Speaker 3: Talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Sound on the iHeart app and in your car on

948
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Speaker 1: your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplessy allan

949
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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected News Talk

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Speaker 1: sa'd boding.

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Speaker 3: Is twenty four minutes away from sex zeron news Talk said,

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Speaker 3: b eden Park is the got the votes from organ

953
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Speaker 3: council this evening. If you're just joining us, as happened

954
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Speaker 3: in the last fifteen minutes, lots of people are texting

955
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Speaker 3: in about the stadium and there's a lot of interest

956
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Speaker 3: in it. And it's not just from people who are

957
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Speaker 3: in Aukland, it's and people all over the country. Because

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Speaker 3: the ed Park two point one means that we'll all

959
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Speaker 3: taxpayers have to throw in a hundred million dollars. Ryan,

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Speaker 3: the stadium better have a roof for that price. Ryan.

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Speaker 3: The seats that a lot of people asking about the seats.

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Speaker 3: Are they going to be soft or will be stuck

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Speaker 3: with the hard ones? These are the important questions and

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Speaker 3: we're going to put them right now at twenty three

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Speaker 3: minutes away from six to Nick Sautner, who's the chief

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Speaker 3: endicative at eden Park Net.

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Speaker 27: Good evening, Good evening, Ryan, and thanks to your time.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling about the vote.

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Speaker 27: Well, I've had a number of staff they can't take

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Speaker 27: the smile of their face. You can imagine that there's

971
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Speaker 27: been over two years of work this process started. Who

972
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Speaker 27: was going to take three months. It's been two years.

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Speaker 27: We've invested over a million dollars in our business case,

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Speaker 27: our planning associated with it, but also during that time

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Speaker 27: delivered some more memorable moments for our national stadium.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this actually settles the debate because we've

977
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Speaker 3: been here, you know, we've been to places like this before,

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Speaker 3: amn't we.

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Speaker 27: Well, it's one of those things that I've worked in

980
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Speaker 27: stadium economics and stadium management for twenty five years and

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Speaker 27: everyone has an opinion. You can only look across the

982
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Speaker 27: ditch at Brisbane and we had a premier of the

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Speaker 27: state go to an election saying he wasn't going to

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Speaker 27: build a stadium, and two days ago here now it's

985
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Speaker 27: building a four billion dollar stadium Olympics. So there's always

986
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Speaker 27: going to be emotion associated with it. But that's one

987
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Speaker 27: of the things that we harnets here. We've had one

988
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Speaker 27: hundred and twenty five years of history and tradition, We've

989
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Speaker 27: had some of New Zealand's most memorable sporting moments. Now

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Speaker 27: with our entertainment content and this decision today, it is

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Speaker 27: a special day in our history. It's taken seven years

992
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Speaker 27: of work with a number of the councilors who supported

993
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Speaker 27: Edinpark today when we approach them for funding. During Phil

994
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Speaker 27: Goss when he was Mayor of Auckland, they didn't support it.

995
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Speaker 27: They have now changed their perception. We put forward a

996
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Speaker 27: case around a staged approach and it was unanimously supported Nick.

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Speaker 3: But just because they've supported in back Eden Park two

998
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Speaker 3: point one doesn't mean that they have said how much

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Speaker 3: they might support you financially right. In fact, that was

1000
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Speaker 3: one of the problems they counsel staff had earlier in

1001
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Speaker 3: the week. So can you tell us exactly how much

1002
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: you want from council and how much you want from government.

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Speaker 27: So one of the conversations Priye, one of the agenda

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Speaker 27: items prior to the conversation around the stadium was about

1005
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 27: an investment strategy across the network. Currently Mount Smart and

1006
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Speaker 27: then Western Springs and North Harbor Stadium get significant funding

1007
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Speaker 27: from Auckland Council and the conversation and that agenda item

1008
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Speaker 27: talked about looking at it at a strategic level across

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Speaker 27: the assets in the city and what's best for the city.

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Speaker 27: And we look forward and welcome the opportunity to talk

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Speaker 27: with council around where they could best invest that money.

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Speaker 27: Noting the Sarah opens next year, will be seven minutes

1013
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Speaker 27: from town. We are a hybrid multi persse shown next week.

1014
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: But how much do you want?

1015
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 27: So in the first stage of one hundred and ten million,

1016
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Speaker 27: we are able to demonstrate in the business case with

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Speaker 27: the pipeline of content, whether it be the Indian Cricket

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Speaker 27: Series in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Now no, I get all that, But is that a

1020
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Speaker 3: one off one hundred and ten million or is that

1021
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: that's correct?

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Speaker 27: That's great? One on the further stages that we're put

1023
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Speaker 27: forward would be funded by a private public partnership and

1024
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Speaker 27: the but we need the foundations and the Stage one

1025
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Speaker 27: guarantees that as cricket and rugby.

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Speaker 3: Cricket and rugby. So that's what we're getting for one

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00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: hundred and ten million. In terms of what we will

1028
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Speaker 3: actually see when we go to the stadium for one

1029
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Speaker 3: hundred and ten million dollars the initial stage, what will

1030
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Speaker 3: it look like.

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00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 27: That's different, It'll be transformational. The north stand will have

1032
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Speaker 27: a retractable stand that will bring you within twelve meters

1033
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Speaker 27: of the rugby field and will extend out the boundary

1034
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Speaker 27: for cricket to seventy four meters, So it then becomes

1035
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Speaker 27: both Test Match compliant and short book short form cricket.

1036
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Speaker 27: So it's a hybrid, multi purpose solution for a country

1037
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Speaker 27: of five million people and a city of one point

1038
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Speaker 27: seven million people. That doesn't necessarily mean that those facilities

1039
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Speaker 27: won't then be adopted. And increasing the capacity for concerts

1040
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Speaker 27: to seventy thousand, that is a game changer for us

1041
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 27: in terms of competing against venues on the East Coast

1042
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Speaker 27: of Australia when we're looking to attract the likes of

1043
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Speaker 27: each Year and or Taylor Swift or indeed the artists

1044
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Speaker 27: that we've had in the last three years.

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Speaker 3: Nick, I appreciate your time. I know you and your

1046
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Speaker 3: team will be very happy with that result. I appreciate

1047
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Speaker 3: you coming on the program. Nix saughtn know who's the

1048
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Speaker 3: tech executive at Eden Park. It is nineteen away from

1049
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Speaker 3: six the Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International real Z find you are one

1051
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Speaker 1: of a kind.

1052
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Speaker 3: Tim Wilson from the Maximum Institutes on the huddle tonight.

1053
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: Hey Tim, good afternoon, welcome back. Good to have you back.

1054
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Speaker 3: And Craig Rennie is here as well, Chief economist at

1055
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Speaker 3: the c TOU the Council of Trade Union's Craig, good

1056
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: evening to you. Thanks having me on. Great to have

1057
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Speaker 3: you on. Can I just quickly get your reaction to

1058
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: both of you to the fact that Auckland councils voted

1059
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Speaker 3: for Eden Park two point one. I mean it doesn't

1060
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Speaker 3: mean anything, like Tim, does it mean anything because you

1061
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: know they have no one's putting any money in that they.

1062
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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, and that's where you know the money will

1063
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 13: explain just how much this is actually meaningful. But I

1064
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 13: just want to push back against people complaining about the

1065
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 13: seats at eden Park. You don't go to eden Park

1066
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Speaker 13: to sit down. You get within a meter and a

1067
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 13: half of the stage and your rock out. If you're

1068
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 13: going to do something else, just go home.

1069
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: Well, but what if you're watching cricket, because we know

1070
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: cricket can go on and on and on.

1071
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 13: Anyway, you just started speaking other language.

1072
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: Ryan, Sorry Craig, Craig, what about you? I mean, from

1073
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 3: a from a funding point of view, it's a lot

1074
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: of money and you've got government doing phase one and

1075
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Speaker 3: then you've got a PPP doing Phase two and three.

1076
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 22: And that's the real question is whether or not in

1077
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 22: the PPP will be asked to put back even more

1078
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 22: money in the future, and with there any real guarantees

1079
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 22: for that, and who fundamentally is going to pay it,

1080
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 22: because if you're going to pay it, because the ticket

1081
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Speaker 22: prices start to rise, because we have to pay for

1082
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 22: the venue, it starts to become uneconomic really quickly. So,

1083
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 22: as Tim has said, the proof will be in the

1084
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 22: pudding and whether or not we can bring the pipeline

1085
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 22: of events and guests and things to really pay for

1086
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 22: the program that's actually been put up there.

1087
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Actually ticket price is pretty expensive already, Chris Stapleton. Five

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Speaker 13: hundred bucks to stand.

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Speaker 3: Up, really to stand up, Yeah.

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Speaker 13: To stand on the Yeah, not even sitting down.

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Speaker 3: Ga, yeah ga, you know, sloshing in the mosophat that

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Speaker 3: is a lot of money. Tim and Craig will be

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Speaker 3: back in just a moment on the huddle, the huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southby's International Realty, the ones with local and

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Speaker 1: global reach.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen away from sixties took said be Tim Wilson and

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Speaker 3: Craig Rinne on the huddle. This is what's his name? Stapleton?

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Speaker 3: Chris Stapleton who Tim you said played at Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he was at.

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Speaker 13: Spark You said that explicitly. I just said ticket prices

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Speaker 13: were high. Do you think I could run for Do

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Speaker 13: you think I could run for something?

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Speaker 22: Here?

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, you could run for anything. Someone also says

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Speaker 3: Bollocks telled him it's two hundred and fifty five for

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Speaker 3: Chris Stapleton. I was standing. But that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: also doesn't mean that you're wrong, because there could have

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Speaker 3: been different prices, you know what I mean, depending on

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Speaker 3: when you bought them.

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Speaker 13: So I think just keep telling me off right, it

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Speaker 13: was two fifty. It was two fifty for Luke Comb

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Speaker 13: standing up.

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Speaker 3: But Eden Park, Yeah, that was was a good gig. Though. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: I've had a couple of texts just in the last

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Speaker 3: minute saying for actually like a lot, saying you didn't

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Speaker 3: ask about the roof on the stadium. So just to

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Speaker 3: clarify the roof. So stage one is your seating for

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Speaker 3: Eden Park, Stage two is your accommodation. Stage three is

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Speaker 3: your roof. So you've got to get the PPP to

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Speaker 3: get your roof. That's the deal, now, Tamatha, Paul Craig's

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Speaker 3: your what's your feeling? I mean, obviously Hopkins feels like

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Speaker 3: this is just toxic. So he's running a country mile

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Speaker 3: from her putting the boot in. What's your feeling about

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Speaker 3: how it might affect the vote on the left.

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Speaker 22: I don't think it's going to affect the Green vault

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Speaker 22: anytime soon. I mean, it's clearly bringing some really unfortunate

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Speaker 22: news and publicity for the Green Park, but I don't

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Speaker 22: think in the long run it's going to make any

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Speaker 22: real meaningful difference to the Green Party vote. And I

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Speaker 22: don't think anyone, including Tamatha, is really suggesting that we're

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Speaker 22: really going to start defunding the police. This is being

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Speaker 22: used by the government essentially to help, you know, look

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Speaker 22: away from a lot of the challenges that they have

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Speaker 22: in this space, because they like to talk a great

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Speaker 22: game about law and order. You know, they've promised five

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Speaker 22: hundred more police at the election and we're currently minus

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Speaker 22: seventy one on that scale. So they've got a really,

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Speaker 22: really difficult set of challenges in that space, and this

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Speaker 22: has just been seized by them as just a as

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Speaker 22: a means of distracting attention from a whole bunch of

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Speaker 22: statistics that they don't really want to talk about in

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Speaker 22: crime right now.

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Speaker 3: Tim, then, how do you explain Chris Hipkins response I mean,

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Speaker 3: is he trying to distract from something too.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. Look, I think I think it shows the sort

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Speaker 13: of labor issue, which is how do you be a

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Speaker 13: centrass party. So yeah, I think Craig is absolutely right

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Speaker 13: about the Greens, particularly the non mainstream aspect. And if

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Speaker 13: you think about you go back to what was it

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Speaker 13: late last year Mpak Green and Pea Kahay Carta was

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Speaker 13: saying in the House that most people would feel more

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Speaker 13: comfortable alone with the patch gang member than police. So

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Speaker 13: I think ten of the Paul's comments on that spectrum

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Speaker 13: they're actually pretty benign. I think it does highlight though,

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Speaker 13: an issue where Okay, so Chris Hopkins is now sort

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Speaker 13: of on song with the government in essence, and it

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Speaker 13: might present some issues when Craig apparently is going to

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Speaker 13: run for the Wellington Central seat as predicted by Audrey Young.

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Speaker 26: Could you clarify that Craig, I.

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Speaker 22: Can clarify Audrey is entitled to her opinion in that space.

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Speaker 13: But I'm here, is this an announcement?

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Speaker 22: It is definitely not an announcement. What I would say

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Speaker 22: is that you know, of course, the of course Chris

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Speaker 22: Hippins is going to support the police in their space,

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Speaker 22: and I think that labor parties ever not supported the

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Speaker 22: police in the space. And you know there were regular

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Speaker 22: increases to police funding and regular support for the police

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Speaker 22: during the last government. So I don't think you know,

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Speaker 22: Chris is seeing anything other than you would have said

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Speaker 22: if he was Prime Minister, or if he was said

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Speaker 22: anywhere else. It's a really unfortunate statement. It's just being

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Speaker 22: dragged and used for a different purpose.

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Speaker 3: Now, Craig, we were going to get to this, but

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Speaker 3: soon as you didn't quite answer the question would you

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Speaker 3: rule out running for Wellington Central? I mean, it's this

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Speaker 3: total bogus.

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Speaker 22: I'm not ruling running out for anywhere, were ruling in

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Speaker 22: running from anywhere. There's there's what there's eighteen months to

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Speaker 22: an election long now, it's it's it's five hundred and

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Speaker 22: eighty one days from memory.

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Speaker 3: And if you know it that accurately, you are differently running.

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Speaker 22: I know it that accurately because we have to spend

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Speaker 22: every day campaigning between now and then in order to

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Speaker 22: make sure people know what this government's doing.

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Speaker 3: Come on, all right, let's move on. Judith Collins, she

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Speaker 3: actually this would be up your early two but Tim

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Speaker 3: Judith Collins was on the show tonight saying the consultant

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Speaker 3: spend is coming right down, but she's saying brace for

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Speaker 3: impact because we're going to do something about the number

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Speaker 3: of public servants. They're not the texts and doctors, but

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Speaker 3: bureaucracy as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And look because at the moment it's been a

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Speaker 13: wound back to the levels that were six months before

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Speaker 13: the last election. So the public service size at the

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Speaker 13: moment is about the same time or about the same

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Speaker 13: levels as when Jacinda Deurn was Prime Minister. So there's

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Speaker 13: clearly work to be done. Just to note that eight

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Speaker 13: hundred pud me million dollars that was saved will service

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Speaker 13: a month and a week of debt servicing for the

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Speaker 13: government debts. So let's let's says that's pretty good going.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of money, isn't it. And I mean

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Speaker 3: it's not just our government, to be fair, Governments all

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Speaker 3: over the world post COVID are dealing with a huge

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Speaker 3: increase in servicing costs because of the money that we've borrowed.

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Speaker 3: But that is something to behold. One month and one

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Speaker 3: week will get you the eight hundred million dollars. Craig,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of the Judith Collins saying she's

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Speaker 3: going to basically do some more cutting.

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Speaker 22: Well, it's not surprising because they haven't been able to

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Speaker 22: make any of their accounts add up. You know, during

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Speaker 22: the election campaign we said that they couldn't afford the

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Speaker 22: tax promises that they had made at the time, and

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Speaker 22: lo and behold, they borrowed more money at the budget

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Speaker 22: in order to pay for the taxes that they'd promised

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Speaker 22: to deliver.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to keep cutting.

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Speaker 22: The budget policy statement from the government said that they

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Speaker 22: were going to keep cutting. The heat thing for me

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Speaker 22: is you say you're going to get rid of eight

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Speaker 22: hundred million dollars of consultants. Fine, does that mean that

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Speaker 22: you're expecting public servants to do that work, or does

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Speaker 22: that mean you're not doing work who's doing the work

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Speaker 22: of government? Or are you just trying to do less?

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Speaker 22: And we know there are no shortage of problems. So

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Speaker 22: the real question is where are the consultants coming from.

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Speaker 22: Are they coming from the building of units of housing,

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Speaker 22: of infrastructure the kinds of things we want to see,

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Speaker 22: or are they coming from somewhere else?

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Speaker 3: And Judith's been.

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Speaker 22: A bit quiet by actually where those consultants are coming

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Speaker 22: from and importantly what those servings are being used for,

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Speaker 22: because right now they're being used to deliver the tax

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Speaker 22: cuts that were delivered at the last budget. They're going

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Speaker 22: to have to keep cutting at the next budget if

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Speaker 22: they want to deliver more tax cuts as they look

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Speaker 22: they seem to want to do on May twenty.

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Speaker 3: Second, Craig, it's a well polished it's a well polished

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Speaker 3: pitch for the Wellington Central voters. I have to say,

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Speaker 3: well done.

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Speaker 13: The question, the question with the public services is a

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Speaker 13: bigger public services, a better public service, and that's the

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Speaker 13: other question that we need to engage with absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Tim, thank you very much for coming on. Tim Wilson,

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Speaker 3: Maxim Institute, and to you Craig as well. Craig an

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Speaker 3: e chief economists at the Counselor Trade Unions and of

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Speaker 3: course soon to be laboring peak well labor candidate. Let's

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Speaker 3: not give them that yet. Seven away from six it's.

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Speaker 1: The Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 3: News Talks it B. It is four minutes away from six.

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Speaker 3: Lots more to come up. Six we'll look at with

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Speaker 3: Joeanna King, who's an RMA lawyer will look at the

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Speaker 3: land use changes that Chris Bishop has been peddling over

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Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours. What exactly does it mean?

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Speaker 3: It's the big it's the age old debate. It's do

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Speaker 3: you build more houses or do you have land to

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Speaker 3: grow food so we can eat? Do you want shelter?

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Speaker 3: Do you want food? What do you want? News talks

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Speaker 3: there be that's after six lots of texts on Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: Ryan Patrick from Gisbon here we went down this path

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Speaker 3: pre Rugby World Cup. If the stadium is not waterfront,

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Speaker 3: then the rest of New Zealand taxpayers shouldn't be contributing

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Speaker 3: to an Auckland decision. I don't know what the waterfunt

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Speaker 3: thing's got to do with it. I think what you

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Speaker 3: mean is why would taxpayers put in one hundred million

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Speaker 3: dollars for eden Park? Well, we put in taxpayers put

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Speaker 3: in money for Takaha, the new stadium in christ Itch.

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Speaker 3: So I guess you've got to give a little love everywhere,

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Speaker 3: don't you. Does at Auckland deserve a little bit of love?

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Speaker 3: Someone says here, at least you could have played a

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Speaker 3: little more of Chris's song, Chris Stableton's song to remind

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Speaker 3: me of the five hundred dollars a ticket for the

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Speaker 3: concert that was very worth it and is doing that

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Speaker 3: for you right now? See yeap six. What's fun?

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Speaker 1: What's down? What with a major cause? And how will

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Speaker 1: it affect the economy? The big business questions on the

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Speaker 1: Business Hour with Ryan Bridge, and there's insurance and investments,

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Speaker 1: grow your wealth to protect your future.

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Speaker 3: News talks at be Good Evening It is seven after six.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company.

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Speaker 27: Tonight.

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Speaker 3: Liam dan is with us shortly on the auto industry

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Speaker 3: tariff start of the United States. Politicians are swarming on

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Speaker 3: Kirwee in the South Island for South Island Field Days

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Speaker 3: and Rachel Reeves, the lovely Labor Chancellor with a thatcher heart,

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Speaker 3: will talk to who's that corresponding out of the UK?

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Speaker 3: Then the Brady tonight he's out of the UK for us.

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Speaker 3: He's given her speech to the House of Commons and yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's cause quite a stir right now. As I mentioned

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Speaker 3: at the start of the show, the Housing Minister is

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Speaker 3: going to open up a whole swath of New Zealand

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Speaker 3: land for housing developments. Basically, what the argument is, we

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Speaker 3: can only do so much with our food. We need

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Speaker 3: places to live. All the land in New Zealand is

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Speaker 3: rated on an eight point scale. One is the best,

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Speaker 3: eight is rubbish At the moment. You can build on one,

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Speaker 3: you sorry can't build on one, two or three, as

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Speaker 3: that land is considered two good for growing things on.

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop is going to leave one and two alone,

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Speaker 3: but he's keen to allow some building on three, which

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Speaker 3: is significant because three makes up two thirds of all

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Speaker 3: of this land. Johannah King is the RMA lawyer, senior

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Speaker 3: Associate at Taverndale and Partners, and she's with me too.

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Speaker 3: Took us through the detail of this tonight. Johannah, good evening,

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Ryan, you good, thank you. I heard you've

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Speaker 3: been at Field days. How's it been we have.

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Speaker 28: It's been great out here actually though the rain's just

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Speaker 28: crept in, so we've timed it right nice.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you had a good day. Tell us about

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Speaker 3: the land that the minister's referring to here. How much

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Speaker 3: are we talking about? How significant is this?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 28: These Class three soils that there are in quite a

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Speaker 28: few places actually, Ryan, So I mean places like south

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Speaker 28: of Pookakoi. We've got the wided upper Manowitou, Thames, places

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Speaker 28: like Wayuku, also a lot in the South Island with

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Speaker 28: mid Cantabrian ash Burton, Blenham and Southland. You mentioned some

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Speaker 28: figures before and I don't doubt that those are on

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Speaker 28: the money. So there's a lot of land here, but

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Speaker 28: it is those Class three soils you were talking about.

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Speaker 28: So we've still got some decent, some good land to

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Speaker 28: do with farming, but it's all it's all potentially coming

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Speaker 28: up for up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. So the minister has said not that

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Speaker 3: we'll throw the baby out with the bath water. He's

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Speaker 3: coming up with this new idea of special agricultural zones

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Speaker 3: which are going to consult on. So if the land,

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Speaker 3: if some of this land is all together, you know,

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Speaker 3: and we're talking you mentioned Pokakoe or hot A Fenawa,

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Speaker 3: this agricultural land is altogether, then that would get a

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Speaker 3: special protection. But could this potentially benefit farmers who have

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Speaker 3: just a little bit of Level three land and they

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Speaker 3: want to build on it and at the moment they can't.

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Speaker 3: Is that a potential here?

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Speaker 28: Yes, I think that is a potential. Ryan We're actually

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Speaker 28: seeing a fair bit of that here in Kenterbury. Where

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Speaker 28: you might have farmers who have some Class one, two

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Speaker 28: and three across farm and they can't currently say, subdivide

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Speaker 28: a piece off for mum and dad to retire onto

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Speaker 28: or something like that. So there have been some outcomes

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Speaker 28: that have been quite difficult to reconcile with what our

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Speaker 28: farmers need and want down here. But certainly, yeah, we're

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Speaker 28: seeing we would see that change in future if this

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Speaker 28: all comes through those agricultural protection areas. It will be

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Speaker 28: good to see that consultation go ahead because there could

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Speaker 28: well be some good areas that do afford that protection

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Speaker 28: with Class three to be bundled together with existing Class

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Speaker 28: one and two, So it will be good to see

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Speaker 28: that process play out.

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Speaker 3: Is there a risk we could build right on top

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Speaker 3: of productive soil that would be better used for growing something.

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Speaker 28: Oh, look, that's the golden question, isn't it. I think

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Speaker 28: that's always a risk Brian. Once we have land that

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Speaker 28: goes into lifestyle blocks or into residential housing, it's virtually

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Speaker 28: impossible to revert back into land grower for growing use.

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Speaker 28: So there's always a cost benefit analysis to be done.

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Speaker 28: But in saying that also we've got to remember there's

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Speaker 28: a lot of innovation happening in the primary sector. There's

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Speaker 28: also a lot of farmers doing a lot more with

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Speaker 28: Class four soils as well, so we could see that

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Speaker 28: we maximize more with what we have, things like vertical

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Speaker 28: gardening and all that sort of thing could become could

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Speaker 28: be got as good salve on all this as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to meet well, I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to mention it because people don't like the idea, but

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Speaker 3: vertical gut. I mean, we may not even need any

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Speaker 3: any level one, two or three soil.

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Speaker 28: It's a tricky one, isn't it. But I think we've

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Speaker 28: got to have a lot of levers to pull and

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Speaker 28: certain sort of options, and I think the more innovation

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Speaker 28: that happens, the more options.

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Speaker 17: We will have.

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Speaker 3: Nice one, Johannah. I'm going and enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 3: your rainy field days. We appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 17: Thanks very much, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Johannah King, who's the rm A lawyer senior associate at

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Speaker 3: Taverndale and Partners, knows a thing or two about what

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Speaker 3: is quite a complex, complicated part of the law. It's

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Speaker 3: twelve minutes after six on news Talks thereb these tariffs.

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Speaker 3: Will talk to Lim Dan about them next so Trump

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Speaker 3: comes out and if you want to buy a Toyota

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Speaker 3: rav four or a Honda Civic in America, it's going

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Speaker 3: to cost you more because they are imported from Canada.

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Speaker 3: How much more we'll find out with Lim Dan.

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Speaker 3: they've got it. Not to mention, it's a couple of

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge, sixteen after six Now Liam Dan is with

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Speaker 3: us A Donald Trump announcing today twenty five percent tariffs

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Speaker 3: on global car imports that includes car parks. This is

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Speaker 3: ahead of the car parks. I should say this ahead

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Speaker 3: of April second, when he's announcing all the reciprocal tariffs

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Speaker 3: them Dan the Herald's business editor at large. Liam Good evening, Gooday, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: Good to have you back. Ye now, ye yes, when you're.

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Speaker 29: Going to hear a lot about this in the next

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 29: few days, I guess as markets especially start to sort

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Speaker 29: of get excited about April second, which I guess is Wednesday,

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Speaker 29: but maybe maybe Thursday morning. We'll find out in He's Zeeland,

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Speaker 29: exactly what we've copped and what the world has copped

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Speaker 29: in terms of this this tariff policy, which has been

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 29: flip blobbing around for a few months. So be nice

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Speaker 29: to get some certainty.

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Speaker 3: I suppose it will, but there was some reprieve yesterday

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Speaker 3: when the administration seemed to indicate they might pull back

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Speaker 3: a little bit on on on the extent of them.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, and which you know makes you think you'd be

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Speaker 29: pretty brave to bet on it being the final word

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Speaker 29: next week, because it seems to be that depending on

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Speaker 29: what's happening with markets and what's happening with the US economy,

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Speaker 29: it can be a moving feast. But you know, they've

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Speaker 29: said this is the date they've had a look at

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Speaker 29: it all. They're looking at reciprocal tariffs, which thankfully New

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Speaker 29: Zealand doesn't have a lot of tariffs on on its

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Speaker 29: goods on imports these days, so you know, the hope

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Speaker 29: is that we're not directly in the firing line. But yeah,

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Speaker 29: just just some certainty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at some.

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Speaker 29: Point that you know that the markets can cope, they'll

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Speaker 29: price it in and they'll get.

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Speaker 30: On with things.

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Speaker 29: But at the moment, you know, the which being done

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Speaker 29: to yourkey we saver account, and the sort of ups

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Speaker 29: and downs of Wall Street every morning in New Zealand,

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Speaker 29: you know, really causing a fair bit of global turmoil,

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Speaker 29: i'd say, for the you know, for the global economy.

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Speaker 3: And even not just the shear markers, but also just

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Speaker 3: to pause on investment as well. What about these car

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Speaker 3: terraffs specifically. I thought it was interesting today reading that

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01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 3: the share market responded by and this is the stocks

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Speaker 3: and American car manufacturers were actually down off the back

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Speaker 3: of this. You would have thought it would be the

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Speaker 3: other way around. What's going on here.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, they've raised this concern and they've been I guess

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Speaker 29: rebuffed at this point. But you know, it's very difficult

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Speaker 29: because of you know, up until the last Donald Trump presidency,

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Speaker 29: there was a real free trade Agreement NAFTA in the US,

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Speaker 29: and so cars in America are made of bits from Mexico,

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Speaker 29: bits from Canada and some of them assembled in the

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Speaker 29: US and them so you know, so all the technology,

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Speaker 29: you know, the smart technology might be made in the

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Speaker 29: US and they might be then assembled in Mexico. So

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Speaker 29: it's it's very hard to work out you know exactly,

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Speaker 29: you know, how how it's going to affect the car makers,

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Speaker 29: but it's it's not not promising for them, and especially

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Speaker 29: you know, a lot of them international players. So there's

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Speaker 29: a lot of concern that China is going to sort

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Speaker 29: of fill the gap around the world if if the

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Speaker 29: US cops sort of retaliatory trade. You know, people people

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Speaker 29: aren't when you send their cars there because of the tariffs,

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Speaker 29: there will be retaliation. China is poised, with this incredible

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Speaker 29: sort of output manufacturing output of evs at the moment

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Speaker 29: to send their b y d s and so on

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Speaker 29: into into the world. So there is some talk that

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Speaker 29: we could we could see some benefits from that. If

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Speaker 29: you like the look of the Chinese by D s.

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Speaker 3: I do. Actually I've send a couple of them go

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Speaker 3: past in the traffic lately and I thought, yeah, they

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Speaker 3: look they look quite good. Actually, I don't know.

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Speaker 29: I seemed quite good at making us something that looks

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Speaker 29: like a proper RECUV. And apparently their battery technology is

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Speaker 29: very good. So they've invested billions over there in the

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Speaker 29: battery technology. So that's you know, the thing for New Zealander,

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Speaker 29: isn't it making sure you could actually get away camping

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Speaker 29: and back and do the distances that people like to

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Speaker 29: do on the holidays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, Liam, Thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you on as always, Liam Dan, the

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Speaker 3: Herald's Business editor at Large. It is twenty after six.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get to next to Jamie mckaye, host

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Speaker 3: of the Country. Lots to talk to him about, including

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Speaker 3: field days and a few changes for the q E

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Speaker 3: two board Trust Trust Board.

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Speaker 1: Next the Rural Report with MSD Animal Health over nz

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Speaker 1: it's most popular cow colab.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to the UK within the Brady just before

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock. Right now, Jamie mckaye hosted The Country is

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Speaker 3: with me. Jamie. Good evening.

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Speaker 1: Good a Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got an update on the q two National

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Speaker 3: Trust Board.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Well they've just had their elections and a lady by

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Speaker 24: the name of Marie Taylor has been elected as a

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Speaker 24: director and a bloke by the name of Graham Murray

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Speaker 24: re elected for his third term term of course, Graham Murray,

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Speaker 24: famous former All Black captain. Now, Ryan, I know you're thinking,

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Speaker 24: what does the q E two National Trust do. Well,

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Speaker 24: it's an independent charitable trust that partners with private landowners

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Speaker 24: to protect sites on their land with covenants so the

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Speaker 24: landowner continues to own and manage the protected land, and

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Speaker 24: the covenant protection stays on the land even when the

1515
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 24: property is on sold or if it's on sold. So

1516
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 24: this five thousand protected areas throughout New Zealand, including one

1517
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 24: under my name or my family's name, are down in

1518
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 24: Southland to Wetland. I'm very, very proud of it. Protecting

1519
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 24: more than one hundred and eighty thousand hectares of private

1520
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 24: land plays a critical role as a refuge for some

1521
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 24: of New Zealand's rarest and most endangered biodiversity and ecosystems.

1522
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 3: Now.

1523
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 24: Graham Murray is an interesting character. Not only was he

1524
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 24: a very good All Black captain in the nineteen eighties,

1525
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 24: you might remember he was famous back then for playing

1526
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 24: classical music to his cows in his openaki dairy shed.

1527
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 24: He put a Kiwi two covenant on his family farm

1528
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 24: way back in the nineteen eighties. He was an early

1529
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 24: adopter when it came to things like riperian planting and

1530
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 24: tests management. He won the Regional Farm Environment Awards in

1531
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,440
Speaker 24: twenty twelve, so he's got a long history of conservation.

1532
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 24: He's currently also the Director in charge of Farming for

1533
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 24: southern pastures. This is one of the ten biggest dairy

1534
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 24: farming operations in the country and I've got eighteen farms nationwide.

1535
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 24: So the Kiwi two National Trust boards made up of

1536
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 24: six members, four appointed by the Minister of Conservation, two

1537
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 24: elected by Trust members and that's Graham Murray and Marie Taylor.

1538
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 24: So look, if you want to save the planet, Ryan,

1539
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 24: and I know we all do, and the government does

1540
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 24: as well, this is the best money you can spend.

1541
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 24: They have had a bit of a funding increase, still

1542
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 24: not enough. They've got an extra four and a half

1543
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 24: million over three years. But I would petition everyone to

1544
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 24: petition their local MPs for more money for the Kiwi

1545
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 24: two National Trust. It's a brilliant setup.

1546
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 3: It is. I actually spent some time in some Kiwi

1547
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 3: two land, some native bush done in the Taradala Rangers

1548
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: over the weekend. Absolutely stunning and they do great work

1549
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 3: alongside the land owners. As you say, now in Kuwi

1550
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: in the South Island, there's been a politician, a swarm

1551
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 3: of politicians trying to get selfies. What's going on?

1552
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 24: Oh well, they normally and these farmer field days, Ryan,

1553
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 24: are normally swarming with nats. You know labor the Greens

1554
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 24: to party, Maury less likely to be seen, but to

1555
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 24: his credit Chris Hipkins was there today along with Chris Luckson.

1556
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 24: So it was all on in the South Island. Poor

1557
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 24: on North Island at the moments curiously dry.

1558
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 17: As is the Tasman region.

1559
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 26: I shouldn't neglect them neither.

1560
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 24: But look at Canterbury's had a great season unless you're

1561
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 24: a cropping or arable farmer, it's believed or not. It's

1562
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 24: been a bit wet for them. But the pastoral farmers

1563
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 24: are having a rip roarer. They haven't even needed to

1564
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 24: turn the irrigators on in some places. So this plate

1565
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 24: that the South Island Field Days held every second year.

1566
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 24: They alternate with the Southern Field Days at Waimumo, just

1567
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 24: outside a gore. They're really good. They're in kurve We,

1568
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 24: thirty minutes west of christ Church. Great crowds, i'm told,

1569
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 24: are very good. Certainly cautious optimism in the air, and

1570
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 24: I'll be really interested to get the numbers at the

1571
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 24: end of this on the big ticket items, especially things

1572
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 24: like tractors and utes, because they are the real barometer

1573
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 24: of the state of the rural market. Now from there

1574
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 24: we moved. This is, by the way, the last of

1575
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 24: the Big Farmer Field Days before we head to Mystery

1576
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 24: Creek for the National Agricultural Field Days Dune eleven to fourteen.

1577
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 24: So from the South Island your days in Kurwee. This

1578
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 24: week it's off to the South Island Airy Event and

1579
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 24: Timaru on April the seventh to the ninth, the Real

1580
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 24: Farmer Conference designed for not designed for rural professionals, but

1581
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 24: for farmers. Guest speakers include gold gold medal winning Olympic

1582
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 24: rower Emma Twig and Cameron Bagriy we all know him,

1583
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 24: amongst many other industry experts. Registrations are still open Ryan

1584
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 24: and North Islanders even like you are welcome if you

1585
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 24: want to come down to Timaru for a couple of

1586
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 24: days in early April.

1587
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 3: Brilliant. Hey, thanks very much, Jamie. Great to have you

1588
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 3: on as always, Jamie McKay, host of the Country News Talks.

1589
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: He'db it's twenty seven minutes after six coming up. Did

1590
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 3: you know? I mean, we hear a lot about India,

1591
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 3: and we've heard a lot about our trade potential with India.

1592
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: Did you know India actually has quite a vibrant stock market.

1593
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: Did you know that we don't talk about it much

1594
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: on this show, do we? But we will next with

1595
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: Sam Dickey.

1596
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

1597
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and Plans, insurance and investments, Grew your Wealth,

1598
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: Protect Your Future? News Talks EDB.

1599
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 21: We never off for We'll never off.

1600
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 3: Do you think twenty four minutes away from seven News

1601
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 3: Talks VB. We've been following the developments this afternoon from

1602
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 3: the Minister Chris Bishop on land use you know do

1603
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: you have in highly productive soil areas like Hotta Fuenoa

1604
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 3: and light Pukakoi do you have more houses or do

1605
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 3: you have fruit and ridgies growing so that we can

1606
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 3: actually eat something. That's the debate that's been going on

1607
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 3: and the government's making some changes. Horticulture New Zealand has

1608
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: just put out a statement about them. I thought i'd

1609
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 3: let you know a few of their concerns. They've said, look,

1610
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: we've got big fish to fry in terms of the

1611
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: water regulations, the fresh water regulations that some of the

1612
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,879
Speaker 3: regions are facing under certain councils. That's a big concern

1613
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 3: for them. They say they've actually got no certainty at

1614
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 3: the moment even though the government's made this announcement. This

1615
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 3: announcement comes ahead of any certainty that the government will

1616
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 3: ensure that growers in Pucaco and Hotapenema will be able

1617
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: to continue growing on their highly productive land. So they're

1618
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: kind of positioning themselves. Well, I suppose it's maybe a

1619
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 3: bargaining position from horticulture endz. They say, we accept that

1620
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 3: people need houses, but they also need to eat fresh

1621
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,879
Speaker 3: fruit and veggies. If the government makes building houses easier,

1622
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 3: it also needs to make changes to enable the supply

1623
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: of fresh fruit and vegetables as well. They're going to

1624
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 3: hold meetings with their growers and find out how they

1625
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 3: feel about the changes that have been proposed, and they

1626
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 3: are just proposed at the moment. The minister said they

1627
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 3: will scrap the for want of a better term, Level

1628
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: three soil land from protections, but they will consult on

1629
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 3: the changes that they're proposing to to take their place.

1630
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: Twenty three away from.

1631
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,440
Speaker 1: Seven Bryan Bridge.

1632
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: India's economy India, that is, its economy is massive. GDP

1633
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: is four point three trillion dollars. In twenty fifteen, it

1634
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: was two point one. That means it's doubled in ten years.

1635
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Growing six point eight percent this year. That's what they're expecting.

1636
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 3: Huge potential for exporters, for investors too. They've got a

1637
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: stock market there, but it does have an Achilles heel

1638
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: and investors should know about it. Sam Dicky Fisher funds

1639
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: with US Tonight, Hey, Sam, good evening. Ryan. First of all,

1640
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 3: it is a pretty impressive beast the Indian economy, isn't it.

1641
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: I mean, just the trajectory that it's on.

1642
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 8: It is a miracle. It's not just the sheer size

1643
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 8: of it. It almost one and a half billion people,

1644
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 8: but it's the youth and vibrancy of that population. So

1645
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 8: the median age in India is around twenty eight years

1646
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 8: of age versus almost forty in the US and New Zealand.

1647
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 8: So the world's largest youth population is entering their prime

1648
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 8: earning years, and it's got access to critical natural resources

1649
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 8: like iron ore to make steel and abundant coal to

1650
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 8: power the growth. Plus the fact that's a democracy and

1651
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 8: is another country almost the same size it isn't it

1652
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 8: a democracy? And that has combined to double GDP in

1653
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 8: the last decade, which is miles faster than most countries

1654
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 8: on Earth.

1655
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 3: So what about the stock market and in the what's

1656
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 3: it I mean, we don't talk about it a lot here.

1657
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 3: What's it like? It is very vibrant.

1658
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 17: So I'll just give you a couple of numbers there, Ryan.

1659
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 8: The overall value of the stock market is more than

1660
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 8: one hundred percent of the size of the economy, so

1661
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 8: more than one hundred percent of GDP. And that is

1662
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,480
Speaker 8: similar to very developed stock markets like the US and Australia.

1663
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 8: And the retail investor over there is very active, so

1664
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 8: mum and dad, they love it. Fifty percent of trading

1665
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 8: volume is driven by these retail investors versus more like

1666
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 8: twenty percent in the US. And they're super tech savvy

1667
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 8: as well, so eighty two percent of all stock market

1668
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 8: trades are done via mobile apps, miles ahead of most

1669
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 8: Western stock market.

1670
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 3: Wow, what's the risks?

1671
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 8: There's always risks. So the Achilles here for India is

1672
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 8: two fold. The first one is with tiger growth that's

1673
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 8: sort of eight percent growth they've been achieving, can come

1674
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 8: tiger inflation and in fact it can all be kickstarted

1675
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 8: by oil. So India needs to import around half of

1676
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 8: its energy needs and that can feed on itself. So

1677
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 8: think about this as the oil price goes up in

1678
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 8: US dollars. That drives up domestic Indian inflation, which in

1679
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 8: turn weakens the currency or the Indian rupee, which in

1680
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 8: turn makes the imported oil more expensive in roupee terms,

1681
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 8: and so on and so forth, so it feeds on itself.

1682
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 8: It's otherwise known as the oil inflation currency trap of

1683
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 8: India and the second Aarchilles heel is. And this is

1684
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 8: a little bit of motive, but it's called the educated

1685
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 8: unemployed time bomb. So twenty nine percent of graduates unemployed,

1686
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 8: which is nine times higher than the uneducated unemployment right, right,

1687
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 8: And when you think about twelve million youths a year

1688
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 8: graduate entering the labor market, and a lot of them

1689
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 8: want to be computer engineers, and considering AI can code

1690
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 8: faster than any trainee computer engineer, it's a problem. And

1691
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 8: all of this is supercharged by the exceptional inequality in India.

1692
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 8: So an unusually tiny proportion of people hold the vast

1693
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 8: majority of wealth.

1694
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, even that GDP number, you know, it sounds so

1695
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 3: massive and impressive, but in terms of GDP per capita,

1696
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 3: they're like one hundred and fiftieth in the world, aren't

1697
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 3: they mean You've got to remember just how big the

1698
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 3: population is in relation to that, right.

1699
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 8: That's right, And the penetration of things like consumer banking

1700
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 8: and things are very low, so there's a long way

1701
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 8: to go, but they're moving pretty rapidly. So I think

1702
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 8: they're probably the fifth biggest economy in the world today

1703
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,799
Speaker 8: and by twenty fifty expected to be the biggest economy.

1704
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: So they are on the charge. Now where does what

1705
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 3: does all of this mean for investors?

1706
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 8: Well, the amazing thing about economies like India that are

1707
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 8: starting from behind the Western world is with modern day technology,

1708
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 8: they can actually leapfrog the West because these young, vibrant

1709
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 8: consumers are hungry for information and tech savvy. So you've

1710
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:11,440
Speaker 8: got high internet and mobile usage, you've got cash less payments.

1711
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 8: Think how how recently we went to cashless payments, cashless

1712
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 8: payments and very very remote villages in India all creating

1713
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 8: the world's largest digital public infrastructure. And overall there's some

1714
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 8: phenomenal companies in India and it is a tiger economy

1715
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 8: that grows rapidly.

1716
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 17: But just watch those Archilles heels.

1717
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 8: So, for example, if if you are invested in India

1718
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 8: and you started to see the oil price shoot up,

1719
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 8: keep an eye on the Indian rupee for signs of

1720
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 8: abnormal weakness and that can drive down the stock market.

1721
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 3: Fascinating stuff. Sam, thank you very much for that update.

1722
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot about in there in the

1723
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 3: last couple of months. That's good to get an insight

1724
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 3: into their stock market too, Sam Dickey, Fisher Funds eighteen

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Speaker 3: to seven. We're in the UK next.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Ryan Ridge and Mays and and investments,

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Speaker 1: grow your wealth to protect your future news talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be it's gone called to seven. It's got it

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Speaker 3: in thee. Brady a UK correspondent who's with us in

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Speaker 3: the welcome. Hey Ryan, good to speak to you again

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Speaker 3: and to you too. What's been the reaction to Rachel Raise,

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Speaker 3: you know, the lovely labor Chancellor of the EXCHEQA and

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Speaker 3: some pretty fetcher like cats.

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Speaker 26: Yes, so she's gone after people on sickness and disability benefits,

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Speaker 26: that's all being reduced, loads of cuts and spending, and

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01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 26: she hasn't ruled out the fact that taxes may have

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01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 26: to rise. So look, I think it very much depends

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01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 26: on which side of the political offense people sit on

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Speaker 26: a lot of people are criticizing her, A lot of

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01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 26: conservatives are saying that this is awful. She will say

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Speaker 26: in turn that she is dealing with the mess labor

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Speaker 26: inheritage July of last year. I think the fact remains

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Speaker 26: the UK economy is limping along. She has huge conundrums

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01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 26: that I'm struggling to see where the answer is going

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01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 26: to come from. Nine point two million people of working

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01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 26: age in this country are not in work, They're not

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Speaker 26: doing anything, they're not paying tax, they're not contributing to

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Speaker 26: the economy. Nine point two million people. Now we have

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Speaker 26: ten percent of the working age population who are on

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01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 26: sickness and disability benefits. So she has I don't know

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Speaker 26: what has gone wrong in Britain, but she seems to

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01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 26: be adamant that the decisions she's making today will bear

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Speaker 26: fruit five or six years down the line. Politically, I

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Speaker 26: wonder will she be Chancellor in five or six months?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, to be fear to that. As you say,

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01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 3: rock and a hard place, really, isn't that when you

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Speaker 3: when you're in heer, It's something like that. And just

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Speaker 3: so recently as well, now Trump's terrorists on cars. What

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Speaker 3: will this do to the UK, could it actually wipe

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Speaker 3: you growth?

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Speaker 26: Well, growth is basically zero at the moment and has

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Speaker 26: been from months and months on end, and that is

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Speaker 26: the challenge for Reeves. She's saying that she wants to

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Speaker 26: stimulate growth and all these cuts and change that she's

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Speaker 26: making now will bring growth eventually. Step forward. Donald Trump,

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Speaker 26: he has announced that next Wednesday is Liberation Day and

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Speaker 26: the plan is that he will whack twenty five percent

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Speaker 26: tariffs on all manufactured cars coming into the United States.

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Speaker 26: So what that means for the UK is very very

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Speaker 26: bad news, indeed, because there's about thirty billion dollars worth

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Speaker 26: of deals from the car manufacturing sector here that go

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Speaker 26: to the United States.

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Speaker 1: The EU is the.

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Speaker 26: Number one market European Union. Britain's second biggest market for

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Speaker 26: all of the vehicles that transports is the US. Twenty

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Speaker 26: twenty four, the UK sold one hundred and one thousand

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Speaker 26: units to America. And if he puts that tariffin as

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Speaker 26: of next Wednesday, that it just will be untenable and

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Speaker 26: that will send Britain in a tail spin back into

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Speaker 26: a recession.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, mate, doesn't the news just doesn't get better for

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Speaker 3: right for race, does it? The man that's been banned

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Speaker 3: from an entire county for stealing.

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Speaker 26: What Cabri's cream eggs. So, I don't know if you

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Speaker 26: have them in New Zealand, but they're a nice little treat.

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Speaker 26: They're the size of an actual egg that you would

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Speaker 26: crack open and make an omelet with. Kids love them,

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Speaker 26: and they're getting more expensive like everything else in our shops.

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Speaker 26: This guy, he's twenty six years of age from the

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Speaker 26: Peterborough area. His name is Dion de Grout. He walked

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Speaker 26: into Tesco Supermarket and he left without paying with three

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Speaker 26: hundred and twenty five Cabri's cream eggs. Now, one of

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Speaker 26: the shop assistants was observing what this guy was doing,

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Speaker 26: ran after him, and as luck would have it, a

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Speaker 26: police patrol car was going right past the street. She

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Speaker 26: flagged down the police patrol car. They got out, they

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Speaker 26: stopped this guy. They put cuffs on him and you

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Speaker 26: can see on the body cam footage the officer says,

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Speaker 26: what have we got here, and the bloke says, Cabrey's

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Speaker 26: cream eggs. So they sit him down. They count them out.

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Speaker 26: Three hundred and twenty five cream makes about four hundred

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Speaker 26: and fifty dollars worth of chocolates and this guy thought

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Speaker 26: this was okay. So he has avoided a prison sentence.

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Speaker 26: The judge says he's going to have a suspended sentence.

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Speaker 26: He will do some community work, he will repay the money.

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Speaker 26: The goods are gone back obviously, but he now will

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Speaker 26: be banned from the entire county of Cambridgeshire for three

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Speaker 26: months in total.

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Speaker 29: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of eggs. A lot of eggs. I'd

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Speaker 3: hate to think how many east does it take you

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Speaker 3: to get through them? In the thank you for that

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Speaker 3: end of Brady our UK correspondent, it is eleven minutes

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Speaker 3: away from seven. There was also a setout today number

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Speaker 3: out today from Crispy Creme Donuts sixty three percent increase

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Speaker 3: I think in the amount of donuts that we're eating,

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Speaker 3: and if you've ever eaten a Crispy Creme donut, you

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01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 3: will know it's sugar. I mean, it's just a pure

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Speaker 3: sugar hit. But they reckon that. On average we eat

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Speaker 3: three or four donuts a year per per New Zealander,

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Speaker 3: which personally I would do way more than that. But

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Speaker 3: isn't that interesting A sixty three percent increase in Crispy

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01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 3: Creme doughnut sales. That's pretty significant. And think of how

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Speaker 3: much sugar that represents, how much fatter were you're getting.

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Speaker 3: Where are we sixty three percent bigger? Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 3: B seven to seven. Trump's putting tariffs on Canada over fentanyl.

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01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 3: We should be putting tariffs on Canada over meth. You

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Speaker 3: want to see the numbers coming out of Canada into

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Speaker 3: Auckland Airport last night, Fifteen kilos of meth and a

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Speaker 3: suit case a twenty three year old woman. And I've

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Speaker 3: been keeping just one eye on these releases from customs.

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Speaker 3: We've had at least five. It's almost like one suitcase

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Speaker 3: per month from Canada, of all places. And you've got

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Speaker 3: to think to yourself, so this is five million dollars worth.

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Speaker 3: If it was sold five million dollars worth, of course

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Speaker 3: it'd be worth a lot less to the cartels because

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01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 3: it'd be worth next to nothing to them. They'll send

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01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 3: in ten and you know one ten will be stopped

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01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: or whatever at a wholesale price, but five million dollars

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Speaker 3: if you sold it on the street. But almost every

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01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 3: month we've had a suitcase full of meth coming in

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Speaker 3: from Canada. So the cartels are obviously going to North

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Speaker 3: America and trying to get the stuff in that way,

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Speaker 3: because maybe we don't look as closely at the suitcases

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01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 3: except even a cursory Google. I mean, if you were

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Speaker 3: one of these smugglers and someone said to you, I

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01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 3: want you to take the suitcase and go to Auckland Airport,

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01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: just a quick Google search, you would see that every

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Speaker 3: month they're catching a person from Canada doing the same thing.

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01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 3: So clearly Customs is watching flights from Canada quite closely.

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01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 3: And last night they twenty three year old woman been

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01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 3: arrested fifteen point one kilograms of beth and petamin in

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01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 3: a suitcase five away from seven. What have we going

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Speaker 3: out to?

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Speaker 30: Ants piano man by Billy Joel to play us out

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01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 30: tonight Billy Joel and You documentary about him is going

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01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 30: to be airing on HBO over in the States. It

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Speaker 30: says over the Summer, which I assume means that'll be

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01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 30: like the US summer, So that'll be like the winter

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01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 30: for us. It's going to be called and so it goes.

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Speaker 30: The director's worked on documentaries about Jane Fonder and Steven

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01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,879
Speaker 30: Steelberg before. Since it's HBO, I assume we will probably

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Speaker 30: get the opportunity to see it here. I would imagine

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Speaker 30: probably on Neon or SkyTV, but I haven't spoken to

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01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 30: SkyTV about it. But yeah, I would be surprised if

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Speaker 30: there was no way to watch it when it eventually airs.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good to me, even just for the music, you know,

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Speaker 3: even if it's crap TV.

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Speaker 30: Ah, you wouldn't have to worry about what song to

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01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 30: put over the credits, would you.

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Speaker 3: All right? Thanks ants, Thanks everyone to.

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Speaker 20: Sing us the song.

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Speaker 3: You're the piano man sing us.

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Speaker 23: A song tonight.

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Speaker 21: Well, we're all in the most warnality and you've got

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Speaker 21: us spirit it all righty.

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Speaker 23: It's a pretty good crowd for a Saturday.

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01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 21: And the manager gives me a smile because he knows

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01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 21: that it's me they've been coming to see to forget

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01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 21: about life for a while. I'm a kill sounds like

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01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 21: a punibal, like the phone smells like a beer. And

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01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 21: they sit at the barn and put bread in my

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01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 21: jar and say, man, what are.

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Speaker 1: You doing here?

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Speaker 5: Oh Lord? A load in it all, a load in

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01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 5: it all.

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01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 7: Say you're a piano man.

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Speaker 21: S the song tonight, well, a rode in the moon

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01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 21: for abalony, and you've gotta spell it alright.

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