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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from US Talk said by if it creaks, leaks,

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Speaker 1: cracks or squeaks, some is the time to get it

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Speaker 1: sort of call eight hundred and eighty to eighty The

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Speaker 1: Resident Builder with Peter wolf Cape US Talk, sabb.

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Speaker 2: Even when the.

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Speaker 3: Grass is overgrown in the yard, even when.

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Speaker 4: The dog is too old to bar, and when you're

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Speaker 4: sitting at the table trying not to stop scissor hole,

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Speaker 4: even when.

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Speaker 5: We are ben.

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Speaker 4: Even when you're therell house sizzor home, even when.

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Speaker 2: There's gone away screamed, broken pans being bunder.

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Speaker 4: Locals west when they're gone even never has, even when

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Speaker 4: will brand even when you're there alone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, very very good morning, and welcome along to

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Speaker 6: the Resident Builder on Sunday, on this Sunday the let

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Speaker 6: me see, I'm just trying to figure it.

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Speaker 2: Out now twenty first of December, which of course means

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Speaker 2: that we are just days away from Christmas. So I

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Speaker 2: trust that your preparations are going well if you, like

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Speaker 2: many people that I know, would be fairly frantic either

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Speaker 2: trying to get projects finished, trying to get the right

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Speaker 2: materials on site, rounding up subcontractors, or whether you got

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Speaker 2: to the end of last week and when look, if

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Speaker 2: it's not going to happen now, it's just not going

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Speaker 2: to happen either way. If you've got a project that

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Speaker 2: you would like to talk about, or a project that

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Speaker 2: maybe you're considering doing between Christmas New Year or over

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Speaker 2: the Christmas New Year holidays, we can talk about that.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about legislation, we could even it's sort

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Speaker 2: of kind of a reflective time of year as well,

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Speaker 2: look back over the year some significant changes. I think

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Speaker 2: on changes to building legislation and so on, this will

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Speaker 2: be a year where a lot of things changed. Interesting

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Speaker 2: I guess around some of these changes, not all of

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Speaker 2: them being met with unanimous approval. In terms of the

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Speaker 2: whole home warranty scheme, how's it going to work? Will

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Speaker 2: the policies be available, Will contractors actually find that they'll

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of things around the legislation. Inevitably, at

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Speaker 2: this time of year, there will also be a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of things where you'll be wondering, you know, what

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Speaker 2: projects can I get done, what can I what can

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Speaker 2: might be thinking about those last minute stocking stuffers as well,

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Speaker 2: things that you might want to add to the Christmas

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Speaker 2: stocking for the person that you love who I guess

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Speaker 2: if you're giving it, you're also kind of hoping that

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Speaker 2: they will they'll get some jobs done. Rightio, The lines

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Speaker 2: are open as always. It is eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty. You can text as well. That's nine two

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Speaker 2: nine two from your mobile phone and if you'd like

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Speaker 2: to email me, well you're more than welcome to do

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Speaker 2: that as well. It's Pete at Newstalk SEDB so Pete

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Speaker 2: at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz. Now if it sounds

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Speaker 2: Building consensor down there used to be up and the well, sorry,

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Speaker 2: wait hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 2: text through to nine two nine two from your mobile phone.

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Speaker 2: And again if you'd like to email, I can check

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Speaker 2: my emails from here. I wait hundred eighty. Sorry, I

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Speaker 2: Pete at NEWSOOKXP dot co dot M said, right, internal

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Speaker 2: So Custom Facier and Spouting they've got a system, Continuous

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Speaker 2: The number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty, give

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Speaker 2: me a call, will take a short break now if

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Speaker 2: texts are fine, but your calls are better. Oh one

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Speaker 1: Break, suns out tools out, your summer DIY starts here.

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Speaker 1: The resident builder with better wolf Care call eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: News Talk News talks B and we are underway again.

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Speaker 2: A couple of little technical issues, but we'll get them

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Speaker 2: sorted out. The lines are open. The number to call

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Speaker 2: i'd really like to get done well before Christmas. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty unlikely these days, isn't it most firms I know, well,

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Speaker 2: obviously Wednesdays Christmas Eve, not many people working. Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: Hi there, Vicky, Hello, Vicky. Hello, Yes, good morning to you. Vicky.

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Speaker 7: Right. We have a nineteen thirty two double brick house

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's been there for a while. You

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Speaker 2: the one hundred and eighty ten eighty, by the way,

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Speaker 5: Good morning to you, Peter and Merry Christmas, sir.

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Speaker 9: Actually, I've broken the windows and a wooden frame wouldn't

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Speaker 5: I've taken all the glass out and I've tried to

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Speaker 5: Whatever they've done to put this window, and it's it's

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Speaker 5: I've got enough to put the glass in and I'm

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you've most glaziers or all glaziers, when

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Speaker 2: my toolkit. So it's it's like a kind of blunt knife.

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Speaker 2: It's the shape of a knife, but it's got a

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Speaker 2: all of that putty because you're right, after however many years,

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Speaker 5: I've been using a plane blade with a will you mallet. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I'm with you what I can do, and that works.

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Speaker 2: I feel sad about the plane blade, but hey, look

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Speaker 2: that's okay, so do that. And then with a tungsten

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Speaker 2: of that really hard putty that's set into the rebate out.

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Speaker 2: So if you can scrape the rebate back as clean

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Speaker 2: as possible. That's really good. Prime the rebate really important

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Speaker 2: that you do that, and then yes, you can use silicon.

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Speaker 2: The only thing to bear in mind is if you

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Speaker 2: why I still prefer that my glaziers use putty because

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Speaker 2: because it will accept paint and onto the glass. But

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Speaker 2: either way, if you bedd it in with a bit

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Speaker 2: There we go is the technical term. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: But so clean out the rebate, make sure you prime

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Speaker 2: three to four weeks for it to get a skin

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Speaker 2: make sure that your paint goes onto the glass. That's

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Speaker 5: Well that that's a really good point, because I was

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Speaker 5: it against the glass and the party. It's rather than

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Speaker 5: yeah you use tape, but no, so I've got to

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Speaker 5: I've got to paint on the glass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's It makes a huge difference to how

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Speaker 2: art Tom, lovely chatting with you. Really appreciate that Lazy

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Speaker 2: is tecked through saying it's called a hack out knife.

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Speaker 2: Other people have called it a hacking knife. Either way,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I've still got one. I think it

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Speaker 2: and I've got it, so that's all right. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: From summer backyard jobs to Big Rednos.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk it through.

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Speaker 1: Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the Resident Builder

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Speaker 2: A couple of things just before we talk to Rich.

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Speaker 2: Do not use silicon on timber, you use wood sash

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Speaker 2: putty XP putty onto the straight paidaway three mili paint

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Speaker 2: onto the glass. Yeah, you're right, Craig, that's the glazier look.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't know whether it's I was gonna

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Speaker 2: say laziness on the part of some glaziers more and

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Speaker 2: more glaziers tend to use a bit of sealant into

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Speaker 2: and I think, Craig you probably agree with me. We

427
00:25:28,295 --> 00:25:30,615
Speaker 2: might be both a bit old fashioned, is to use putty.

428
00:25:31,335 --> 00:25:34,455
Speaker 2: I think it's better happy to have a glazier comment

429
00:25:34,535 --> 00:25:40,455
Speaker 2: on that. And just on the coiler as well, nappy

430
00:25:40,495 --> 00:25:49,895
Speaker 2: sand works perfectly for cleaning coiler, staining off concrete and

431
00:25:50,055 --> 00:25:52,575
Speaker 2: someone else's text through them. Just going back through my

432
00:25:52,735 --> 00:25:59,335
Speaker 2: text messages here, baking soda mixed with water and left

433
00:25:59,335 --> 00:26:02,655
Speaker 2: to settle, then pour off the liquid and spray or

434
00:26:02,775 --> 00:26:06,535
Speaker 2: brush the surface. That's also for getting rid of stains

435
00:26:06,575 --> 00:26:11,455
Speaker 2: from things like queila, in particular off the off concrete

436
00:26:11,535 --> 00:26:14,095
Speaker 2: if you happen to have made that mistake, and it's

437
00:26:14,135 --> 00:26:17,775
Speaker 2: a classic. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

438
00:26:17,815 --> 00:26:20,455
Speaker 2: the number to call and rich a very good morning

439
00:26:20,455 --> 00:26:20,855
Speaker 2: to you.

440
00:26:21,935 --> 00:26:22,575
Speaker 10: Pet.

441
00:26:22,295 --> 00:26:24,335
Speaker 2: Are you're not too bad yourself?

442
00:26:25,015 --> 00:26:25,215
Speaker 11: Yeah?

443
00:26:25,295 --> 00:26:26,015
Speaker 12: Very well, very well?

444
00:26:26,055 --> 00:26:28,695
Speaker 10: He are you just another one on that quiler? So yeah,

445
00:26:28,775 --> 00:26:30,975
Speaker 10: quite a number of years ago, built a brand new home,

446
00:26:31,735 --> 00:26:34,055
Speaker 10: got a mate around Christmas Eve, through all the coil

447
00:26:34,095 --> 00:26:38,975
Speaker 10: of the furniture together, and then I started to find

448
00:26:39,015 --> 00:26:42,055
Speaker 10: for some DearS and got up in the morning at

449
00:26:42,055 --> 00:26:44,775
Speaker 10: the rain, so phone heaps of people to try and

450
00:26:44,775 --> 00:26:47,295
Speaker 10: point out what to do. Noing, you phone the you know,

451
00:26:47,615 --> 00:26:50,775
Speaker 10: the hardware shafts, and yeah, no ideas. In the end,

452
00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:52,615
Speaker 10: I went down to the local force square and got

453
00:26:52,655 --> 00:26:56,415
Speaker 10: ganola straight ganola and poured that on it, scrubbed it

454
00:26:56,455 --> 00:26:59,375
Speaker 10: with a brush and hosted it off and it was

455
00:26:59,415 --> 00:27:01,975
Speaker 10: all gone. But that was the very next morning, So

456
00:27:02,175 --> 00:27:02,855
Speaker 10: there's right.

457
00:27:04,055 --> 00:27:07,415
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things. Don't run around going

458
00:27:07,415 --> 00:27:09,535
Speaker 2: the skies falling, the skies falling? What am I going

459
00:27:09,575 --> 00:27:11,095
Speaker 2: to do? You just you want to crack into that

460
00:27:11,135 --> 00:27:11,695
Speaker 2: straight away?

461
00:27:12,535 --> 00:27:14,615
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so that worked for me anyway.

462
00:27:16,055 --> 00:27:18,615
Speaker 2: So again my my tip number one for the day

463
00:27:18,695 --> 00:27:21,095
Speaker 2: is if you get new hardwood furniture, what you do

464
00:27:21,175 --> 00:27:23,175
Speaker 2: is you leave it on the lawn until it's rained

465
00:27:23,215 --> 00:27:25,055
Speaker 2: a couple of times, and then you move it onto

466
00:27:25,095 --> 00:27:27,255
Speaker 2: the patio. But you've probably learned that lesson.

467
00:27:27,935 --> 00:27:29,135
Speaker 13: Ah, you never did that again.

468
00:27:33,255 --> 00:27:36,415
Speaker 2: Well, we've all made them. We've all made them, me

469
00:27:36,575 --> 00:27:40,015
Speaker 2: more than more than most. I think. Hey, really appreciate it.

470
00:27:40,295 --> 00:27:42,215
Speaker 2: Hope you have a great Christmas with you and the family.

471
00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:44,655
Speaker 11: Yeah, you take.

472
00:27:44,535 --> 00:27:48,175
Speaker 2: Care rich all the best, much appreciated, Thank you writing

473
00:27:48,495 --> 00:27:50,375
Speaker 2: a couple of texts. People are getting right into the

474
00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:52,815
Speaker 2: whole thing of the puttying. I mean, it's and the

475
00:27:52,855 --> 00:27:57,175
Speaker 2: other thing with watching someone who's proficient, so Dale Mike Glazier,

476
00:27:57,215 --> 00:27:59,135
Speaker 2: who came and sorted out a shower door the other

477
00:27:59,215 --> 00:28:02,255
Speaker 2: day and replace some blazing on an old house a

478
00:28:02,295 --> 00:28:06,415
Speaker 2: little while ago. For me, you know, watching like watching

479
00:28:06,455 --> 00:28:09,615
Speaker 2: someone who has worked with putty for a long time.

480
00:28:10,655 --> 00:28:14,695
Speaker 2: It looks deceptively simple. It's a ball of putty. Scoop

481
00:28:14,735 --> 00:28:16,935
Speaker 2: it out of the pot, rub it in the hand,

482
00:28:16,935 --> 00:28:19,335
Speaker 2: get it nice and pliable and so on. And then

483
00:28:19,375 --> 00:28:21,295
Speaker 2: it's a one handed thing, and it's kind of like

484
00:28:21,375 --> 00:28:25,535
Speaker 2: pushing it forward in with the thumb all the way around,

485
00:28:25,575 --> 00:28:27,655
Speaker 2: a few little marks and that sort of thing, and

486
00:28:27,695 --> 00:28:30,815
Speaker 2: then out with the putty knife, strikes it off. Job done,

487
00:28:31,055 --> 00:28:34,055
Speaker 2: brush over the top, job done. I've watched that a

488
00:28:34,135 --> 00:28:36,175
Speaker 2: number of times. I've tried to do it a few

489
00:28:36,215 --> 00:28:39,295
Speaker 2: times as well. It is a lot harder than it looks.

490
00:28:39,455 --> 00:28:42,815
Speaker 2: That's that skill when you see it. Oh, eight hundred

491
00:28:42,895 --> 00:28:45,135
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you'd

492
00:28:45,295 --> 00:28:47,055
Speaker 2: like to give us a call. I'd love to hear

493
00:28:47,095 --> 00:28:51,015
Speaker 2: from you on any particular building topic, or perhaps a

494
00:28:51,015 --> 00:28:53,575
Speaker 2: reflection on the year that was as well. Well, maybe

495
00:28:53,655 --> 00:28:57,335
Speaker 2: we save that for next week when I'll be bringing

496
00:28:57,335 --> 00:29:00,295
Speaker 2: you the show. I feel like like an IT overset

497
00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:03,695
Speaker 2: foreign correspondent at the moment. I'll bring you the show

498
00:29:03,735 --> 00:29:07,655
Speaker 2: from Los Angeles next week on our home But right

499
00:29:07,695 --> 00:29:12,935
Speaker 2: now I'm actually in Bayswater, a suburb. I guess it's

500
00:29:12,975 --> 00:29:16,975
Speaker 2: fairly central London, London. I'm about a fifteen minute walk

501
00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:22,055
Speaker 2: less than that from Kensington Palace. After I left the

502
00:29:22,095 --> 00:29:25,855
Speaker 2: family in the center of London this afternoon, I walked

503
00:29:25,855 --> 00:29:30,695
Speaker 2: from Westminster, past Buckingham Palace, through sort of Hyde Park

504
00:29:30,775 --> 00:29:35,215
Speaker 2: and then on to Kensington Park to get back here.

505
00:29:35,215 --> 00:29:38,975
Speaker 2: It's where I'm staying now, and it was It's been

506
00:29:39,015 --> 00:29:42,895
Speaker 2: a lovely old time, so and interesting. Like I say,

507
00:29:42,935 --> 00:29:45,335
Speaker 2: to go a couple of hardware stores that I've been to,

508
00:29:46,455 --> 00:29:50,055
Speaker 2: and here's me. I'm out, you know, halfway around the world,

509
00:29:50,175 --> 00:29:52,575
Speaker 2: still going to hardware stores, still picking up a couple

510
00:29:52,655 --> 00:29:55,615
Speaker 2: of items that I think might be useful and that

511
00:29:55,695 --> 00:29:58,135
Speaker 2: I might enjoy using when I get back to New Zealand.

512
00:29:58,175 --> 00:30:01,655
Speaker 2: As well. A quick text on the removing putty Hey

513
00:30:02,575 --> 00:30:07,015
Speaker 2: removing re removing putty, especially from old timber frame. I

514
00:30:07,095 --> 00:30:09,815
Speaker 2: soften at first with a hot air gun. It's clever.

515
00:30:10,215 --> 00:30:12,255
Speaker 2: I find a lot of the glaciers chipped the wood.

516
00:30:12,335 --> 00:30:16,015
Speaker 2: A smaller chisel and a light hammer then removes it easier.

517
00:30:17,495 --> 00:30:20,935
Speaker 2: That's cheatius sexually. Thank you for that, Nikki. I really

518
00:30:21,015 --> 00:30:23,495
Speaker 2: appreciate that. A W eight one hundred and eighty eighty

519
00:30:23,575 --> 00:30:25,655
Speaker 2: is the number to call. Penny A very good morning

520
00:30:25,695 --> 00:30:25,975
Speaker 2: to you.

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00:30:27,095 --> 00:30:31,375
Speaker 14: Oh, good morning, good morning to I have a slight

522
00:30:31,455 --> 00:30:36,375
Speaker 14: issue in my batch. I just got a bathroom floor.

523
00:30:36,815 --> 00:30:39,455
Speaker 14: A little bit of the floor under in front of

524
00:30:39,495 --> 00:30:43,775
Speaker 14: the toilet had been sinking for a long time and

525
00:30:43,815 --> 00:30:47,535
Speaker 14: I just got that replaced by a friend. So the

526
00:30:47,575 --> 00:30:50,655
Speaker 14: floor is great, but he had to take the toilet

527
00:30:50,695 --> 00:30:53,415
Speaker 14: off and put it back on, and then putting it

528
00:30:53,455 --> 00:30:56,095
Speaker 14: back on. When he screwed it back in the base

529
00:30:56,775 --> 00:31:03,455
Speaker 14: of the porcelain cracked. Oh yes, yeah, And he said

530
00:31:04,175 --> 00:31:07,695
Speaker 14: it's probably fine, and so I good at And the

531
00:31:07,775 --> 00:31:08,855
Speaker 14: thing is, there's been.

532
00:31:08,775 --> 00:31:09,295
Speaker 8: A leak there.

533
00:31:09,335 --> 00:31:11,815
Speaker 14: I don't want to leak there again. I probably, even

534
00:31:11,855 --> 00:31:14,615
Speaker 14: though it's very batchy, I probably don't want to crack

535
00:31:14,655 --> 00:31:16,935
Speaker 14: in it. So I have to get it replaced. Is

536
00:31:17,415 --> 00:31:20,375
Speaker 14: that a big job? Because, you know, because it was

537
00:31:20,455 --> 00:31:22,015
Speaker 14: kind of a favor and he said, oh, look, I

538
00:31:22,015 --> 00:31:24,375
Speaker 14: can do it. But I didn't want to put him out.

539
00:31:24,415 --> 00:31:26,375
Speaker 14: But I couldn't figure out how much of a job

540
00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:29,135
Speaker 14: it was. And then I figured maybe I should just

541
00:31:29,135 --> 00:31:31,575
Speaker 14: get a plumber and find a new toilet and do it.

542
00:31:31,655 --> 00:31:34,775
Speaker 14: Do you know what I mean? I happy not to

543
00:31:34,775 --> 00:31:38,095
Speaker 14: spend money on it either, but I feel like, how

544
00:31:37,895 --> 00:31:43,295
Speaker 14: how much of an issue is the actual crack practically?

545
00:31:44,015 --> 00:31:46,695
Speaker 2: Well, I guess the main I mean, the main concern

546
00:31:46,855 --> 00:31:50,535
Speaker 2: is is the crack where the screw fitting or the

547
00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:54,335
Speaker 2: screw hole is likely to cause a leak at the

548
00:31:54,375 --> 00:31:58,535
Speaker 2: bottom of the pan? Right? So yes, what I'm thinking

549
00:31:58,655 --> 00:32:01,455
Speaker 2: is fill the pan to the point that it would

550
00:32:01,455 --> 00:32:04,335
Speaker 2: normally fill when you flush it, right, because that obviously

551
00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:07,055
Speaker 2: there's a U bend, so the water goes up to

552
00:32:07,095 --> 00:32:09,335
Speaker 2: a level. Once it gets beyond that, it flows over

553
00:32:09,375 --> 00:32:11,815
Speaker 2: the U bend. So fill it full of fill it

554
00:32:11,935 --> 00:32:16,415
Speaker 2: up until it reaches its level. Mark that level maybe

555
00:32:16,415 --> 00:32:18,495
Speaker 2: with a mark or pen or a bit of sticky

556
00:32:18,535 --> 00:32:20,855
Speaker 2: tape or something like that. Check it again a couple

557
00:32:20,895 --> 00:32:24,695
Speaker 2: of hours later or a day later. If that hasn't dropped.

558
00:32:24,815 --> 00:32:30,855
Speaker 2: Then you could reasonably confidently say my pan is not leaking,

559
00:32:30,935 --> 00:32:36,695
Speaker 2: in which case it's then a cosmetic thing. So then

560
00:32:36,735 --> 00:32:38,375
Speaker 2: you could just go, well, look I can live with

561
00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:40,855
Speaker 2: a crack around the screw hole, right.

562
00:32:42,895 --> 00:32:43,895
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

563
00:32:43,935 --> 00:32:46,775
Speaker 2: So then at least you because you're right, given that

564
00:32:46,815 --> 00:32:49,255
Speaker 2: you had to replace the floor, probably from a leak

565
00:32:49,295 --> 00:32:52,415
Speaker 2: from the toilet system somewhere, you don't want to have

566
00:32:52,455 --> 00:32:54,615
Speaker 2: to do that again. So if it's not leaking, you

567
00:32:54,655 --> 00:32:57,015
Speaker 2: could leave it. Otherwise, I guess the thing is you'd

568
00:32:57,055 --> 00:33:00,255
Speaker 2: never find another pan that will fit with the system,

569
00:33:00,535 --> 00:33:03,815
Speaker 2: most likely unless it's not that old, in which case

570
00:33:03,855 --> 00:33:07,375
Speaker 2: you're having to buy a complete new toilet suite. The

571
00:33:07,455 --> 00:33:09,895
Speaker 2: issue with that sometimes is you know where the water

572
00:33:10,015 --> 00:33:13,095
Speaker 2: comes out, where the you know the depth of the

573
00:33:13,175 --> 00:33:16,055
Speaker 2: setting for the waste pipe. All of these things change.

574
00:33:16,055 --> 00:33:20,055
Speaker 2: I've just done one just before we went away, and

575
00:33:21,055 --> 00:33:25,615
Speaker 2: you know, it becomes a much bigger job. And the

576
00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:28,335
Speaker 2: other thing again, here we go tip number three. It

577
00:33:28,375 --> 00:33:31,255
Speaker 2: would seem, having watched my plumbers put in some toilet

578
00:33:31,295 --> 00:33:33,535
Speaker 2: systems for me in the last couple of months, that

579
00:33:33,775 --> 00:33:37,375
Speaker 2: increasingly it's a big bead of sealant around underneath the

580
00:33:37,375 --> 00:33:41,015
Speaker 2: toilet pan, and the screws really are kind of there

581
00:33:41,215 --> 00:33:43,335
Speaker 2: just to hold it in place. They're not there to

582
00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:47,295
Speaker 2: fix it down to the ground. It's really the sea.

583
00:33:47,415 --> 00:33:50,175
Speaker 2: In some cases, I know plumbers that don't even bother

584
00:33:50,255 --> 00:33:53,415
Speaker 2: putting any fixings anymore. They just beat decent bead of

585
00:33:53,455 --> 00:33:56,655
Speaker 2: sealant adhesive sealent round the bottom of the pan, pop

586
00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:59,855
Speaker 2: it into place, don't use it for twenty four hours.

587
00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:04,935
Speaker 2: It'll stay there. And you know, for all normal usage,

588
00:34:05,135 --> 00:34:07,495
Speaker 2: the pan's going to stay where needs to stay. So

589
00:34:07,535 --> 00:34:08,855
Speaker 2: that's another thought for you.

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00:34:10,455 --> 00:34:12,895
Speaker 14: And you wouldn't be concerned about like the fact like

591
00:34:13,015 --> 00:34:14,575
Speaker 14: growing over time or anything.

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00:34:15,655 --> 00:34:19,055
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, I suppose I would kind of

593
00:34:19,095 --> 00:34:21,375
Speaker 2: take that and go if it becomes a problem later,

594
00:34:21,415 --> 00:34:23,735
Speaker 2: I'll fix it later. That you don't have to fix

595
00:34:23,775 --> 00:34:25,575
Speaker 2: it now. The only reason that I would feel that

596
00:34:25,575 --> 00:34:28,695
Speaker 2: you'd need to fix it immediately is if the pan

597
00:34:28,975 --> 00:34:31,015
Speaker 2: or the bowl at the bottom of the pan is

598
00:34:31,055 --> 00:34:34,975
Speaker 2: not holding water, and you can test that that way.

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00:34:35,935 --> 00:34:39,135
Speaker 2: Good luck and a very happy Christmas tea, take care

600
00:34:39,175 --> 00:34:41,535
Speaker 2: of all the best, Penny. By by right, we're going

601
00:34:41,575 --> 00:34:43,455
Speaker 2: to take a short break. If you've got a question

602
00:34:43,535 --> 00:34:46,815
Speaker 2: of a building nature or a plumbing nature. I'll tell

603
00:34:46,815 --> 00:34:50,055
Speaker 2: you about this because it was something that I bought today,

604
00:34:50,535 --> 00:34:54,215
Speaker 2: the most random thing, at a tiny little antique store

605
00:34:54,855 --> 00:34:57,575
Speaker 2: in Islington. We had to travel a wee bit to

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00:34:57,735 --> 00:35:02,055
Speaker 2: find it. But it relates to what we've just been

607
00:35:02,095 --> 00:35:05,175
Speaker 2: talking about, and my name, which is even funnier. Anyway,

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00:35:05,255 --> 00:35:07,615
Speaker 2: stand by. I'll give that story after the break, but

609
00:35:07,695 --> 00:35:10,295
Speaker 2: interested in your stories more than mine. Eight hundred eighty

610
00:35:10,375 --> 00:35:12,055
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call it.

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00:35:13,255 --> 00:35:18,735
Speaker 1: Sawdust, sunshine and solid advice. The resident builder with peterwolf Cab.

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00:35:18,895 --> 00:35:21,375
Speaker 1: Call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

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00:35:21,415 --> 00:35:21,775
Speaker 12: There'd be.

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00:35:23,495 --> 00:35:26,615
Speaker 2: Your news talks. It'd be we're talking all things building construction.

615
00:35:27,055 --> 00:35:32,535
Speaker 2: A couple of great texts that have come through as well. Again,

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00:35:32,655 --> 00:35:35,935
Speaker 2: lots of dispute about the way in which to bed

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00:35:35,975 --> 00:35:40,375
Speaker 2: in your glazing into a timber rebate. You can use

618
00:35:40,415 --> 00:35:43,615
Speaker 2: paintable clear sealant on the back rebate if your windows

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00:35:43,615 --> 00:35:46,055
Speaker 2: in a high sun area, the celant is good at

620
00:35:46,095 --> 00:35:50,655
Speaker 2: the back. This person uses a foss rock crystal clear. Pete,

621
00:35:50,695 --> 00:35:56,015
Speaker 2: thanks very much for that. Someone else, this is interesting too, Pete.

622
00:35:56,055 --> 00:35:59,175
Speaker 2: I owned an old church and took all of the

623
00:35:59,215 --> 00:36:02,055
Speaker 2: putty out of the curved windows with a tile saw.

624
00:36:02,175 --> 00:36:05,135
Speaker 2: I set the depth to a millimeter back from the

625
00:36:05,175 --> 00:36:08,535
Speaker 2: glass cut around the timber. Heat from the plade melts.

626
00:36:08,575 --> 00:36:12,415
Speaker 2: The putty also cuts through the sprigs as well. The

627
00:36:12,415 --> 00:36:15,735
Speaker 2: putty will just fall out. I guess I just have

628
00:36:15,815 --> 00:36:19,215
Speaker 2: this vision that there's still little bits of glass in there.

629
00:36:19,415 --> 00:36:22,215
Speaker 2: So you're effectively using the tile sword. It cuts through

630
00:36:22,215 --> 00:36:25,055
Speaker 2: the last little bits of glass. I guess if you're

631
00:36:25,135 --> 00:36:29,535
Speaker 2: suitably protected in terms of your ppe, that'll be okay. Hey,

632
00:36:29,535 --> 00:36:32,375
Speaker 2: look more to the point, Pete. If it works for you,

633
00:36:32,655 --> 00:36:36,095
Speaker 2: that's fabulous. Oh now, let me just tell you so.

634
00:36:38,175 --> 00:36:41,775
Speaker 2: I love antique stores right and collecting a few little

635
00:36:41,815 --> 00:36:44,895
Speaker 2: bits and pieces, and so we made the effort today

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00:36:44,975 --> 00:36:47,295
Speaker 2: to go to an antique store that we'd heard about

637
00:36:48,655 --> 00:36:51,975
Speaker 2: because we're tragic fans of that program Salva Hunters right

638
00:36:51,975 --> 00:36:55,455
Speaker 2: with Drew Pritchard, where he travels around England buying bits

639
00:36:55,455 --> 00:36:57,535
Speaker 2: and pieces, and every now and then he meets a character.

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00:36:57,575 --> 00:37:03,895
Speaker 2: And this character Paul runs Paul's Antiques Innovative Name in Islington.

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Speaker 2: So we took the bus out there today and we're

642
00:37:06,695 --> 00:37:09,415
Speaker 2: wandering around having a bit of a chat and tucked

643
00:37:09,415 --> 00:37:12,615
Speaker 2: away at the back of the store was an old

644
00:37:12,935 --> 00:37:19,255
Speaker 2: metal sign handpainted and it said Pier's Pierre Wolf's and

645
00:37:19,335 --> 00:37:24,215
Speaker 2: I thought Pierre Wolf Peter wolf Camp not too far away,

646
00:37:24,615 --> 00:37:28,775
Speaker 2: and then it had in French. The occupation. Turns out

647
00:37:28,855 --> 00:37:31,855
Speaker 2: that they were a plumber and roofer, and then their

648
00:37:31,895 --> 00:37:35,135
Speaker 2: address on an old metal sheet. Anyway, I couldn't resist it.

649
00:37:35,175 --> 00:37:38,215
Speaker 2: I ended up buying that and a little book and

650
00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:41,255
Speaker 2: a few other bits and pieces. So that was a

651
00:37:41,255 --> 00:37:45,095
Speaker 2: little bit of our shopping today. So yeah, odd things

652
00:37:45,095 --> 00:37:46,855
Speaker 2: to buy while on holiday. But this is the way

653
00:37:46,895 --> 00:37:49,535
Speaker 2: that we roll. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

654
00:37:49,575 --> 00:37:52,015
Speaker 2: the number to call. A couple of other quick texts

655
00:37:52,175 --> 00:37:56,975
Speaker 2: as well that have come in. This is a challenging one, Kevin,

656
00:37:57,015 --> 00:38:00,455
Speaker 2: thank you for your text, Hey Pete. How accurate is

657
00:38:00,495 --> 00:38:04,935
Speaker 2: the cord oal some assure calculator when determining the insurance

658
00:38:05,055 --> 00:38:09,615
Speaker 2: value for rebuilding a home in Auckland. One of the

659
00:38:09,775 --> 00:38:14,495
Speaker 2: things that I, I mean, it's hard to say that

660
00:38:14,575 --> 00:38:17,855
Speaker 2: the calculator is not good. I think what is often

661
00:38:17,935 --> 00:38:22,655
Speaker 2: the case is that unless you are very familiar with

662
00:38:22,735 --> 00:38:25,375
Speaker 2: all of the items in your house and the method

663
00:38:25,375 --> 00:38:29,735
Speaker 2: of construction for your house, it can be a bit misleading,

664
00:38:29,815 --> 00:38:33,015
Speaker 2: and that's that classic. You know, if the data going

665
00:38:33,055 --> 00:38:35,415
Speaker 2: in is not good, then the data coming out is

666
00:38:35,455 --> 00:38:39,815
Speaker 2: not going to be that great. Interestingly enough, I a

667
00:38:39,815 --> 00:38:42,375
Speaker 2: friend of mine a little while ago, some time ago

668
00:38:42,455 --> 00:38:46,375
Speaker 2: now asked me exactly the same question. I know their

669
00:38:46,415 --> 00:38:52,335
Speaker 2: house reasonably well. They used the calculator themselves and got

670
00:38:52,775 --> 00:38:56,815
Speaker 2: a figure, let's say it was six hundred and fifty thousand.

671
00:38:57,775 --> 00:39:01,815
Speaker 2: I used exact same calculator based on my knowledge of

672
00:39:01,855 --> 00:39:04,815
Speaker 2: the house and all of the elements that went into it,

673
00:39:04,895 --> 00:39:07,815
Speaker 2: and the type of the site and those sorts of things,

674
00:39:08,295 --> 00:39:12,415
Speaker 2: and my figure was closer to eight hundred thousand. Now,

675
00:39:12,655 --> 00:39:15,415
Speaker 2: I think that's because I'd like to think that I've

676
00:39:15,455 --> 00:39:20,335
Speaker 2: got good knowledge around how to rebuild that house, and

677
00:39:20,375 --> 00:39:24,055
Speaker 2: that perhaps possibly as a homeowner, the other person just

678
00:39:24,295 --> 00:39:27,215
Speaker 2: miss some things, which is fine, that's not a judgment

679
00:39:27,255 --> 00:39:30,375
Speaker 2: on them. So in that case, Kevin, I think the

680
00:39:30,415 --> 00:39:34,655
Speaker 2: calculators are useful, but there's no guarantee that they're right.

681
00:39:35,615 --> 00:39:38,375
Speaker 2: And way way a go, we had a gentleman from

682
00:39:38,415 --> 00:39:45,135
Speaker 2: Construction cost Consultants on He's fantastic. He's a registered quantity surveyor.

683
00:39:46,135 --> 00:39:51,255
Speaker 2: He actually runs a system whereby if they assess your

684
00:39:51,335 --> 00:39:54,255
Speaker 2: house and it turns out to cost more. I think

685
00:39:54,295 --> 00:39:57,095
Speaker 2: they come to the party on a difference anyway. Either way,

686
00:39:57,135 --> 00:39:59,855
Speaker 2: if you do want to get a professional registered valuation,

687
00:40:00,055 --> 00:40:04,375
Speaker 2: then look at construction cost consultants. But by all means,

688
00:40:04,455 --> 00:40:07,655
Speaker 2: it's a useful tool because it's very, very difficult for

689
00:40:07,695 --> 00:40:10,975
Speaker 2: most homeowners to get a sense of just how expensive

690
00:40:11,055 --> 00:40:14,335
Speaker 2: their own houses are to replace. So the tools useful.

691
00:40:14,575 --> 00:40:18,255
Speaker 2: Just make sure you put in as much information as

692
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Speaker 2: you possibly can about the house in order to give

693
00:40:21,135 --> 00:40:23,415
Speaker 2: it a decent figure. Now, in the next hour of

694
00:40:23,455 --> 00:40:27,295
Speaker 2: the show, we have our painting expert j Sharples from Razine.

695
00:40:27,415 --> 00:40:29,895
Speaker 2: He's going to join us at around seven twenty five. Remember,

696
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Speaker 2: as always we're into the garden with Redcline past come

697
00:40:33,255 --> 00:40:35,975
Speaker 2: eight point thirty. We're coming up to news, Sport and

698
00:40:36,135 --> 00:40:40,615
Speaker 2: Weather top of the hour at seven o'clock. So if

699
00:40:40,895 --> 00:40:43,135
Speaker 2: you'd like to join us after Newsport and Weather gives

700
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Speaker 2: a call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, keep the

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Speaker 2: text running. That's nine two, nine to two and if

702
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Speaker 2: you'd like to email, it's peaked at newstooksp dot co

703
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Speaker 2: dot NZI. A little bit of Christmas music to take

704
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Speaker 2: us up to the break back after the news at.

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Speaker 3: Seven, I can h they went through school the start again.

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00:41:00,615 --> 00:41:09,095
Speaker 3: It's urging till the blood lag is small. Everywhere you go,

707
00:41:11,055 --> 00:41:14,895
Speaker 3: there's a tree, the Grand Hotel one in the park

708
00:41:14,975 --> 00:41:19,495
Speaker 3: as well. It's the sturdy kind that doesn't mind the snow.

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00:41:21,335 --> 00:41:24,815
Speaker 3: Let's be getting to the blood like us.

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00:41:27,455 --> 00:41:27,735
Speaker 4: Soon.

711
00:41:27,975 --> 00:41:33,055
Speaker 3: The Bess Star and the thing that will.

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Speaker 1: Make sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives.

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Speaker 1: The Resident Builder with Peter wolf Camp Call eight hundred

714
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Speaker 1: eighty to eighty Youth TALKSBBI.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to the program. Pete wolf Camp is

716
00:41:48,135 --> 00:41:50,735
Speaker 2: my name, the Resonant Builder, and this is the resum

717
00:41:50,775 --> 00:41:53,495
Speaker 2: Builder on Sunday. If you would like to talk about

718
00:41:53,535 --> 00:41:58,095
Speaker 2: anything related to building, construction, renovating alterations. We can talk

719
00:41:58,095 --> 00:42:01,615
Speaker 2: about the practical stuff. We can talk about the the rules,

720
00:42:01,655 --> 00:42:05,535
Speaker 2: the regulation, the legislation. Is a lot of change coming up,

721
00:42:05,815 --> 00:42:09,135
Speaker 2: and that's it's already been announced this year and I

722
00:42:09,215 --> 00:42:13,175
Speaker 2: guess it'll be coming into play next year. We can

723
00:42:13,175 --> 00:42:15,135
Speaker 2: talk about that. We can talk about the tools and

724
00:42:15,255 --> 00:42:18,655
Speaker 2: tricks and tips and every now and then the show

725
00:42:18,735 --> 00:42:21,935
Speaker 2: is also just about fixing the stuff ups right, So

726
00:42:22,175 --> 00:42:24,895
Speaker 2: if you've got some new Queler furniture and it's sat

727
00:42:24,975 --> 00:42:28,415
Speaker 2: on a fresh bit of concrete and then it rained.

728
00:42:28,855 --> 00:42:30,935
Speaker 2: It's not the concrete's fault, it's the quiler's fault. What

729
00:42:30,975 --> 00:42:33,135
Speaker 2: do you do about that? So I just tax through

730
00:42:34,295 --> 00:42:38,975
Speaker 2: Pete Nappie stand has an active ingredient called soul sodium

731
00:42:39,175 --> 00:42:43,055
Speaker 2: per carbonate. It's a weak solution. I just use sodium

732
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Speaker 2: per carbonate straight diluted in hot order for Queler stains.

733
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Speaker 2: That's from Louis. Thanks very much for that. I must

734
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Speaker 2: note these things down as well, right he so, and

735
00:42:53,415 --> 00:42:57,015
Speaker 2: again if the show sounds a little bit funny or

736
00:42:57,015 --> 00:43:00,175
Speaker 2: if there's a few technical issues, I am broadcasting from

737
00:43:00,255 --> 00:43:04,335
Speaker 2: quite some distance away as it happens, so currently in London,

738
00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:08,095
Speaker 2: actually in London City. I've been staying with some friends

739
00:43:08,095 --> 00:43:13,575
Speaker 2: outside of London and heading towards New Zealand, but not

740
00:43:13,655 --> 00:43:16,175
Speaker 2: quite making it by next Sunday as well. But I

741
00:43:16,215 --> 00:43:19,535
Speaker 2: will be back the following Sunday into the brand new

742
00:43:19,655 --> 00:43:22,735
Speaker 2: year to be back in the studio. So right now

743
00:43:23,215 --> 00:43:25,735
Speaker 2: we are doing it as an overseas broadcast, which is

744
00:43:25,935 --> 00:43:30,015
Speaker 2: a little bit of fun but entertaining. Sitting essentially in

745
00:43:30,015 --> 00:43:32,735
Speaker 2: my hotel room with a laptop and a microphone doing

746
00:43:32,775 --> 00:43:35,535
Speaker 2: the show from here, which is great fun after having

747
00:43:35,895 --> 00:43:41,535
Speaker 2: had a just spectacular day in London today, beautiful, almost

748
00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:46,415
Speaker 2: completely clear skies, ten degrees, very little wind. You can

749
00:43:46,535 --> 00:43:50,535
Speaker 2: kind of walk through Kensington Park and you can sort

750
00:43:50,535 --> 00:43:54,415
Speaker 2: of see the Brits wandering about, going wow. This is

751
00:43:54,495 --> 00:43:56,975
Speaker 2: amazing because generally at this time of year it's pretty

752
00:43:57,015 --> 00:43:59,815
Speaker 2: miserable over here, and from what I can hear from

753
00:43:59,855 --> 00:44:02,415
Speaker 2: friends back home, it sounds like it hasn't been the

754
00:44:02,455 --> 00:44:05,935
Speaker 2: greatest weather back in New Zealand. And I'm not sure

755
00:44:05,935 --> 00:44:09,095
Speaker 2: what the Christmas Day forecast looks like, but it does

756
00:44:09,135 --> 00:44:11,935
Speaker 2: sound like met Service of issooter a suggestion that you

757
00:44:12,055 --> 00:44:14,535
Speaker 2: might need a plan the if you're thinking about a

758
00:44:14,575 --> 00:44:17,575
Speaker 2: barbecue outside, you may well in parts of the country

759
00:44:17,695 --> 00:44:19,455
Speaker 2: need a plan bee. Anyway, I wish you all the

760
00:44:19,575 --> 00:44:22,455
Speaker 2: very best Christmas. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Oh.

761
00:44:22,535 --> 00:44:26,975
Speaker 2: Remember in about twenty minutes or so, Jay, our painting

762
00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:30,055
Speaker 2: expert from Razine, will be joining us. So if you've

763
00:44:30,095 --> 00:44:34,415
Speaker 2: got any specific painting questions, please send those through via

764
00:44:34,495 --> 00:44:38,135
Speaker 2: text message that's nine to nine two or ZBZB from

765
00:44:38,175 --> 00:44:40,495
Speaker 2: your mobile phone. We'll take your calls we'll keep that

766
00:44:40,575 --> 00:44:43,095
Speaker 2: running as well as always. At around eight point thirty

767
00:44:43,135 --> 00:44:46,015
Speaker 2: this morning, we'll jump into the garden with red climb

768
00:44:46,095 --> 00:44:49,015
Speaker 2: past as well, and right now, so give us a call.

769
00:44:49,575 --> 00:44:53,575
Speaker 2: We'll send those specific painting text questions through as well.

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Speaker 2: A very good morning to you, Robert. How are you.

771
00:44:56,815 --> 00:45:02,095
Speaker 15: I'm well, thanks Toooner. About forty years ago, I bought

772
00:45:02,215 --> 00:45:05,575
Speaker 15: a whole packet of queler and it was red, and

773
00:45:05,615 --> 00:45:09,495
Speaker 15: I believe today I'm sorry, I just changed the I

774
00:45:09,575 --> 00:45:13,695
Speaker 15: believe today they're dipping it in a die and that's

775
00:45:13,735 --> 00:45:17,575
Speaker 15: why it's running off. So it's quite a different product.

776
00:45:17,655 --> 00:45:17,815
Speaker 12: Now.

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00:45:20,935 --> 00:45:26,055
Speaker 2: Look, it's not something that i'd heard of. I would

778
00:45:26,095 --> 00:45:30,895
Speaker 2: have thought in the end, quila's queler, right, So maybe

779
00:45:31,055 --> 00:45:36,775
Speaker 2: older that's curious. Actually, I mean potentially older queller. Let's

780
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:38,695
Speaker 2: say from forty years ago. It might have come from

781
00:45:38,855 --> 00:45:39,895
Speaker 2: older forests.

782
00:45:42,175 --> 00:45:43,455
Speaker 15: Yeah, you're probably right.

783
00:45:44,335 --> 00:45:47,735
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it might have been an older tree, denser,

784
00:45:48,015 --> 00:45:52,295
Speaker 2: more sap and so on. If it's plantation growing hardwood,

785
00:45:52,375 --> 00:45:54,415
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much of that is out there.

786
00:45:55,135 --> 00:45:58,455
Speaker 2: There's always if I'm really really honest, there's always been

787
00:45:58,455 --> 00:46:03,055
Speaker 2: a part of me that's slightly reluctant to use hardwoods

788
00:46:03,055 --> 00:46:06,255
Speaker 2: for the reason that until quite recently, you will never

789
00:46:06,455 --> 00:46:11,295
Speaker 2: really sure where it was coming from, right, And what

790
00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:16,615
Speaker 2: I'm talking about is those just heartrending, soul destroying pictures

791
00:46:16,655 --> 00:46:21,495
Speaker 2: of you know, people clearing vast amounts of rainforest around

792
00:46:21,495 --> 00:46:25,335
Speaker 2: the world simply to harvest five hundred year old, two

793
00:46:25,455 --> 00:46:28,615
Speaker 2: hundred year old trees to turn into garden furniture, and

794
00:46:29,015 --> 00:46:33,215
Speaker 2: part of me just goes, that's irresponsible. Now that's not

795
00:46:33,295 --> 00:46:36,655
Speaker 2: the case now for hardwoods, and if timber has an

796
00:46:36,855 --> 00:46:43,615
Speaker 2: fsc SO forestry certification, then you can be reasonably confident

797
00:46:43,655 --> 00:46:47,775
Speaker 2: that it's come from either managed or sustainable forests around

798
00:46:47,815 --> 00:46:50,495
Speaker 2: the world. But I think if you were ever in

799
00:46:50,535 --> 00:46:53,815
Speaker 2: a position where you had some exotic timbers and you

800
00:46:53,855 --> 00:46:57,615
Speaker 2: were unsure or they were not able to prove how

801
00:46:57,655 --> 00:47:00,935
Speaker 2: that timber was logged or where it came from, I'd

802
00:47:01,015 --> 00:47:05,095
Speaker 2: stay away from it issue.

803
00:47:06,415 --> 00:47:09,295
Speaker 15: The interesting thing about the packet was all the same lengths,

804
00:47:09,415 --> 00:47:13,215
Speaker 15: like a packet of four the tree to yeah, so

805
00:47:13,615 --> 00:47:16,655
Speaker 15: not in bits where you have to choose some things.

806
00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:20,575
Speaker 15: The other thing that I've spent a local guy who's

807
00:47:21,295 --> 00:47:24,935
Speaker 15: using bamboo now for getting yes, and I've seen it

808
00:47:24,975 --> 00:47:29,015
Speaker 15: put down and it's true and straight, he said, bell

809
00:47:29,175 --> 00:47:31,895
Speaker 15: just love it because they don't have to make any corrections,

810
00:47:32,815 --> 00:47:36,415
Speaker 15: have cuttings which are stainless steel and hidden and they

811
00:47:36,415 --> 00:47:39,575
Speaker 15: can do the job very quickly. So if I was

812
00:47:39,655 --> 00:47:42,735
Speaker 15: using it again, I use bamboo.

813
00:47:44,175 --> 00:47:46,055
Speaker 2: I'm curious to have a look at that. I haven't

814
00:47:46,055 --> 00:47:48,615
Speaker 2: had the opportunity to use it. I mean, if you

815
00:47:48,655 --> 00:47:51,255
Speaker 2: think about how quickly bamboo grows, I mean it must

816
00:47:51,335 --> 00:47:54,495
Speaker 2: be a composite, so they must take bamboo and then

817
00:47:54,895 --> 00:47:58,335
Speaker 2: blew it together with a whole lot of something else exactly.

818
00:47:58,415 --> 00:48:01,695
Speaker 2: But either way, some of the composites are great, and

819
00:48:02,415 --> 00:48:06,215
Speaker 2: given how quickly bamboo grows, it makes I think it

820
00:48:06,335 --> 00:48:09,855
Speaker 2: makes for a very sustainable product potentially depending on what

821
00:48:09,895 --> 00:48:13,215
Speaker 2: they use to then blue it all together. But keen

822
00:48:13,295 --> 00:48:17,175
Speaker 2: to have a go with it. Appreciate the call, enjoy

823
00:48:17,255 --> 00:48:20,055
Speaker 2: your day and all the very best for Christmas as well, Robert,

824
00:48:20,055 --> 00:48:24,615
Speaker 2: thanks for calling. I love take care. Oh thank you mate.

825
00:48:24,815 --> 00:48:30,015
Speaker 2: It's controversial, I think at best I did earlier in

826
00:48:30,055 --> 00:48:33,055
Speaker 2: the year. No, no, sometimes last year. I think, rah,

827
00:48:33,215 --> 00:48:34,815
Speaker 2: you know it's been ten years of the show. Maybe

828
00:48:34,855 --> 00:48:38,255
Speaker 2: I should change the song. And all I got was, no,

829
00:48:38,695 --> 00:48:40,855
Speaker 2: you can't change the song. We don't like the new one.

830
00:48:40,975 --> 00:48:42,335
Speaker 2: And then, of course, as soon as I went back

831
00:48:42,335 --> 00:48:44,615
Speaker 2: to the old one, which is this one, I get

832
00:48:44,615 --> 00:48:46,695
Speaker 2: the occasional text, when are you going to change that

833
00:48:46,935 --> 00:48:50,295
Speaker 2: blasted song? So hey, I'll stick with it. I quite

834
00:48:50,335 --> 00:48:52,815
Speaker 2: enjoy it. But of Ben Harper, alright, A lovely a

835
00:48:52,895 --> 00:48:55,935
Speaker 2: chat with you. Take care all the best, Sarah by then,

836
00:48:56,375 --> 00:48:59,015
Speaker 2: and Elizabeth, good morning to you.

837
00:49:00,055 --> 00:49:03,775
Speaker 8: Good morning. I need your advice. I hired Order to

838
00:49:03,815 --> 00:49:07,415
Speaker 8: come and recoil and reinsulate the part of my home,

839
00:49:07,855 --> 00:49:11,935
Speaker 8: which he duly did. I fully paid up. He didn't

840
00:49:11,975 --> 00:49:17,255
Speaker 8: complete the job. Short story long, very short. He's walked

841
00:49:17,255 --> 00:49:19,855
Speaker 8: away from the job and told me that he is

842
00:49:19,895 --> 00:49:23,135
Speaker 8: suffering from mental health issues, even though he's been on

843
00:49:23,255 --> 00:49:28,815
Speaker 8: the job with his painter fixing a couple of small issues,

844
00:49:29,295 --> 00:49:32,935
Speaker 8: supposedly fixing them, but he hasn't. So I rang the

845
00:49:32,935 --> 00:49:36,175
Speaker 8: building company, that the certified building company, and they said

846
00:49:36,175 --> 00:49:39,815
Speaker 8: he resigned his place from being within their company, so

847
00:49:39,975 --> 00:49:41,935
Speaker 8: there was nothing they could do about it. I said,

848
00:49:41,975 --> 00:49:43,935
Speaker 8: but it's on your letter here, and they said tuss.

849
00:49:44,695 --> 00:49:46,495
Speaker 8: So I rang them back a few months later and

850
00:49:46,575 --> 00:49:49,895
Speaker 8: was told the same thing again, and was then told

851
00:49:49,935 --> 00:49:51,815
Speaker 8: that he is now an LBP so I can have

852
00:49:51,935 --> 00:49:53,615
Speaker 8: to I have to apply through them to try and

853
00:49:53,655 --> 00:49:59,615
Speaker 8: get something done. Now he admitted fault, he's refused to

854
00:49:59,655 --> 00:50:02,175
Speaker 8: come back and do it. I allowed him a few

855
00:50:02,215 --> 00:50:05,415
Speaker 8: months over the last Christmas period because of young families.

856
00:50:05,455 --> 00:50:07,055
Speaker 8: I said, I'll just come back and then you only

857
00:50:07,175 --> 00:50:10,215
Speaker 8: sorted out. Meanwhile, the timber moved and I ended up

858
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:13,535
Speaker 8: with a striped sticking story. The painter came back and

859
00:50:13,615 --> 00:50:16,775
Speaker 8: did a botched job. It has now moved yet again.

860
00:50:16,895 --> 00:50:19,575
Speaker 8: So yet again, over a year later, I have now

861
00:50:19,615 --> 00:50:22,695
Speaker 8: got well, actually it's only six months since he fixed

862
00:50:22,695 --> 00:50:26,375
Speaker 8: the botch job. Now six months later, all the timber

863
00:50:26,375 --> 00:50:29,255
Speaker 8: has moved again and I have got another striped house.

864
00:50:29,455 --> 00:50:31,375
Speaker 8: Brazine have been the head of lock and said that

865
00:50:31,495 --> 00:50:34,415
Speaker 8: he used all the right paints. So where am I

866
00:50:34,495 --> 00:50:36,655
Speaker 8: left other than having a mortgage at sixty five in

867
00:50:36,655 --> 00:50:40,455
Speaker 8: the house that hasn't been completed. Yeah, I've got a

868
00:50:40,495 --> 00:50:42,975
Speaker 8: front porch roof that is leaking and he just doesn't

869
00:50:43,015 --> 00:50:49,575
Speaker 8: set a damn. Meanwhile, I've lost fifteen kg and campletely

870
00:50:49,775 --> 00:50:52,575
Speaker 8: because I'm so stressed about it all, and my house

871
00:50:52,735 --> 00:50:53,575
Speaker 8: is incomplete.

872
00:50:54,855 --> 00:50:55,455
Speaker 11: Where do I go?

873
00:50:55,895 --> 00:50:57,975
Speaker 8: Because I've asked other billers come have a lock, and

874
00:50:58,015 --> 00:51:00,815
Speaker 8: nobody wants to touch it because it's somebody else's problem.

875
00:51:01,295 --> 00:51:05,735
Speaker 2: And you know, unfortunately for good reason. You can understand

876
00:51:05,775 --> 00:51:09,535
Speaker 2: why buildings are really reluctant to finish somebody else's work,

877
00:51:09,615 --> 00:51:11,895
Speaker 2: particularly when it's it's substandard.

878
00:51:11,975 --> 00:51:16,935
Speaker 8: Right, that's a no. Thelight po roof where the product

879
00:51:16,935 --> 00:51:19,135
Speaker 8: has been cut short because of the product that he

880
00:51:19,255 --> 00:51:23,535
Speaker 8: used that I didn't ask for. The pergola, the pergolar

881
00:51:23,575 --> 00:51:26,455
Speaker 8: part of it, the timber has been cut off, so

882
00:51:26,655 --> 00:51:29,015
Speaker 8: it just needs some more timber put on it, and

883
00:51:29,055 --> 00:51:33,215
Speaker 8: then have then the corrugated plastick routing or the old

884
00:51:33,255 --> 00:51:34,535
Speaker 8: nob lighters I used to call it.

885
00:51:34,655 --> 00:51:36,775
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure that has been put up.

886
00:51:36,615 --> 00:51:40,615
Speaker 8: Side down in places not overlapped. So the whole little leak. Yeah,

887
00:51:40,775 --> 00:51:42,735
Speaker 8: it's pretty simple. It's like a day's work and it

888
00:51:42,735 --> 00:51:44,895
Speaker 8: would be fixed, and he's just refused to come back.

889
00:51:45,215 --> 00:51:48,535
Speaker 8: The shed doors he put on, they had started rotting

890
00:51:48,575 --> 00:51:52,975
Speaker 8: in three months, and I know they haven't been painted

891
00:51:53,015 --> 00:51:54,655
Speaker 8: because I've got a photo of the day they went up,

892
00:51:54,655 --> 00:51:57,135
Speaker 8: and they went painted before they were put up. Yeah,

893
00:51:57,175 --> 00:51:57,895
Speaker 8: I haven't got a leak.

894
00:51:58,215 --> 00:52:00,575
Speaker 2: Can I just run through a couple of quick questions

895
00:52:00,615 --> 00:52:03,855
Speaker 2: for you. You mentioned that he was part of an organization,

896
00:52:04,095 --> 00:52:07,575
Speaker 2: so you talked about this. Was he HEASIL and Certified

897
00:52:07,575 --> 00:52:08,695
Speaker 2: Builders member?

898
00:52:09,455 --> 00:52:11,735
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, he's got his own company.

899
00:52:12,855 --> 00:52:17,175
Speaker 2: He he At the time when he was doing the

900
00:52:17,295 --> 00:52:20,415
Speaker 2: job for you, was he a paid up and registered member?

901
00:52:20,775 --> 00:52:23,415
Speaker 8: Yes, he was until two weeks before he came back

902
00:52:23,455 --> 00:52:24,295
Speaker 8: to fix the job.

903
00:52:26,175 --> 00:52:29,935
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well that's interesting, is he Well he

904
00:52:29,975 --> 00:52:32,855
Speaker 2: should have been at the time in LBP as well,

905
00:52:33,615 --> 00:52:36,055
Speaker 2: so if you go to the LBT register.

906
00:52:37,735 --> 00:52:39,975
Speaker 8: Well, he didn't tell me that he was. But when

907
00:52:40,015 --> 00:52:42,415
Speaker 8: I rang back and spooked the same morning on the phone,

908
00:52:42,535 --> 00:52:45,615
Speaker 8: asking to speak to superior about it for the second

909
00:52:45,655 --> 00:52:49,935
Speaker 8: time again, she refused to speak to anybody else, and

910
00:52:50,335 --> 00:52:51,775
Speaker 8: she said to me, oh, by the way, he is

911
00:52:51,815 --> 00:52:52,895
Speaker 8: an LBP now.

912
00:52:55,415 --> 00:53:00,975
Speaker 2: Yep. Which so we again a quick question. When did

913
00:53:01,015 --> 00:53:01,935
Speaker 2: this work begin?

914
00:53:04,055 --> 00:53:06,895
Speaker 8: And it would have been about Meyler year.

915
00:53:08,135 --> 00:53:10,495
Speaker 2: So May twenty four.

916
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:16,935
Speaker 8: So Ita September and the timber started moving and striped,

917
00:53:17,055 --> 00:53:19,535
Speaker 8: and I said to him, look, summer's coming out. You've

918
00:53:19,575 --> 00:53:22,335
Speaker 8: both got young families, you and your the painter. Why

919
00:53:22,335 --> 00:53:24,095
Speaker 8: don't we just leave it till l after Christmas. Come

920
00:53:24,095 --> 00:53:25,415
Speaker 8: back at the gun of March, when all the kids

921
00:53:25,415 --> 00:53:27,255
Speaker 8: at back at school and let's just finish the job.

922
00:53:27,335 --> 00:53:30,295
Speaker 8: The great fantastic thinks you're you know, for helping us

923
00:53:30,335 --> 00:53:34,695
Speaker 8: out job. And then they didn't come. It went on

924
00:53:34,975 --> 00:53:38,335
Speaker 8: and on and on, email after email from me saying

925
00:53:38,335 --> 00:53:40,455
Speaker 8: when are you coming? And then they ended up coming.

926
00:53:40,815 --> 00:53:43,735
Speaker 8: I think it wasn't about May. And then I got

927
00:53:43,735 --> 00:53:48,655
Speaker 8: abuse from the painter. Yeah you know, and he literally

928
00:53:48,855 --> 00:53:52,855
Speaker 8: got a small two inch paint brush and taped it

929
00:53:52,895 --> 00:53:54,975
Speaker 8: onto a roller and I got up on a ladder

930
00:53:55,015 --> 00:53:56,255
Speaker 8: and fixed the paint that way.

931
00:53:57,215 --> 00:53:57,455
Speaker 2: Yeah.

932
00:53:58,535 --> 00:54:01,895
Speaker 8: Story other question for he was fine.

933
00:54:02,215 --> 00:54:06,735
Speaker 2: So at the time, he sounds like he may have

934
00:54:06,895 --> 00:54:16,175
Speaker 2: been a member of If he is an LBP, you

935
00:54:16,215 --> 00:54:19,575
Speaker 2: can go and check whether he's currently a licensed building

936
00:54:19,615 --> 00:54:25,775
Speaker 2: practitioner going to LBP dot golf dot NZ. Certainly it

937
00:54:25,815 --> 00:54:29,215
Speaker 2: sounds like it would warrant a complaint to the disciplinary Board.

938
00:54:29,735 --> 00:54:32,815
Speaker 2: One of the interesting moves by the current government has

939
00:54:32,895 --> 00:54:36,575
Speaker 2: been to speed up that process, because you know, in

940
00:54:36,615 --> 00:54:40,575
Speaker 2: a situation like this, if an investigation takes six or

941
00:54:40,615 --> 00:54:44,375
Speaker 2: eight months, that's not much use to you in terms

942
00:54:44,415 --> 00:54:46,655
Speaker 2: of actually, you know, if it's designed to be about

943
00:54:46,695 --> 00:54:50,095
Speaker 2: consumer protection, there needs to be some speed about it.

944
00:54:50,135 --> 00:54:56,415
Speaker 2: And the system hasn't been particularly speedy. So I suppose

945
00:54:56,535 --> 00:55:00,655
Speaker 2: reminding him of his legal obligations to act as an

946
00:55:00,775 --> 00:55:05,655
Speaker 2: LBP and to obey the code of ethics, and it

947
00:55:05,695 --> 00:55:08,375
Speaker 2: sounds like he he's failed on a number of those

948
00:55:08,415 --> 00:55:12,415
Speaker 2: things may get him to come back and complete the work.

949
00:55:12,495 --> 00:55:20,055
Speaker 2: But then I'm dealing with, Yeah, I'm dealing with a

950
00:55:20,095 --> 00:55:23,215
Speaker 2: not a similar situation where you know, if if the

951
00:55:23,295 --> 00:55:27,975
Speaker 2: contractor who has done what is arguably poor work comes back,

952
00:55:28,015 --> 00:55:29,615
Speaker 2: I think the only way that it's fair for the

953
00:55:29,615 --> 00:55:32,935
Speaker 2: client to accept it, because everyone has a right to

954
00:55:33,535 --> 00:55:37,695
Speaker 2: sort of fix their stuff ups, basically, is that somebody

955
00:55:37,695 --> 00:55:43,255
Speaker 2: else suitably qualified would be there to supervise and and

956
00:55:43,495 --> 00:55:46,215
Speaker 2: have the ability to say whether or not the work

957
00:55:46,295 --> 00:55:49,375
Speaker 2: is up to stand it or not. But in terms

958
00:55:49,455 --> 00:55:54,135
Speaker 2: of the immediate the issue, and this is you know,

959
00:55:54,175 --> 00:55:57,015
Speaker 2: a genuine issue that we face just in terms of legislation,

960
00:55:57,095 --> 00:55:59,615
Speaker 2: I guess is that in this instance, what you want

961
00:55:59,655 --> 00:56:02,135
Speaker 2: to do is just get it fixed, right, So how

962
00:56:02,135 --> 00:56:03,215
Speaker 2: do you get it fixactly?

963
00:56:03,215 --> 00:56:06,775
Speaker 8: I've got a stright house and a leaky patio and

964
00:56:06,815 --> 00:56:10,015
Speaker 8: the thing I emailed and said to him, look, this

965
00:56:10,135 --> 00:56:12,335
Speaker 8: is really affecting my health badly. Can you please just

966
00:56:12,375 --> 00:56:14,815
Speaker 8: come and fix the job. You know, I know that's

967
00:56:14,855 --> 00:56:17,495
Speaker 8: just these little things like spouting that's been that's fifty

968
00:56:17,495 --> 00:56:20,575
Speaker 8: miil too short, splices through a windows, so now I

969
00:56:20,615 --> 00:56:24,375
Speaker 8: can't keep any windows open in the house in this area.

970
00:56:24,735 --> 00:56:25,615
Speaker 15: And can you.

971
00:56:25,575 --> 00:56:27,535
Speaker 8: Please just come and fix it. This is really affecting

972
00:56:27,575 --> 00:56:30,575
Speaker 8: my health, which it is is just shocking. And you know,

973
00:56:30,655 --> 00:56:33,295
Speaker 8: every waking minute I waked for the night and I

974
00:56:33,375 --> 00:56:35,455
Speaker 8: just think about it, and I got.

975
00:56:35,455 --> 00:56:36,935
Speaker 12: Letter I think I will do.

976
00:56:39,815 --> 00:56:42,295
Speaker 8: The next day. I got two lines back in an

977
00:56:42,295 --> 00:56:45,375
Speaker 8: email the next day saying he's suffering from mental health.

978
00:56:45,535 --> 00:56:49,455
Speaker 8: Good luck with your house. So he's walked away from

979
00:56:49,455 --> 00:56:51,175
Speaker 8: the job and abundantly clear.

980
00:56:52,255 --> 00:56:54,535
Speaker 2: Look, I think there are things that you can do,

981
00:56:55,495 --> 00:56:58,335
Speaker 2: none of them and you know, like if I if

982
00:56:58,375 --> 00:57:00,735
Speaker 2: I had a solution, i'd tell you, but the reality

983
00:57:00,855 --> 00:57:05,175
Speaker 2: is actually getting something done quickly. There's you know, I'm

984
00:57:05,215 --> 00:57:07,855
Speaker 2: open to suggestions, but I don't know that there is something.

985
00:57:09,095 --> 00:57:13,055
Speaker 2: Can I just pass you back to my producer, could you,

986
00:57:13,255 --> 00:57:16,015
Speaker 2: if you feel like it, leave your email with them.

987
00:57:16,495 --> 00:57:19,215
Speaker 2: I'll contact you when I'm back in New Zealand, which

988
00:57:19,255 --> 00:57:22,215
Speaker 2: is in a week or so, and see whether there's

989
00:57:22,255 --> 00:57:26,095
Speaker 2: something that I might be able to do otherwise this.

990
00:57:26,335 --> 00:57:30,575
Speaker 2: You know, it's a deeply complex issue. It shouldn't be right,

991
00:57:30,895 --> 00:57:32,655
Speaker 2: you know. I think this is the one thing if

992
00:57:33,095 --> 00:57:35,695
Speaker 2: the current government could fix one thing, it would be

993
00:57:35,695 --> 00:57:39,295
Speaker 2: being able to set up a process whereby you've in

994
00:57:39,375 --> 00:57:43,775
Speaker 2: good faith taken on a contract. It's well, maybe there

995
00:57:43,895 --> 00:57:46,015
Speaker 2: was no contract, in which case it gets really tricky

996
00:57:46,015 --> 00:57:48,495
Speaker 2: with lawyers, et cetera, et cetera. But you know, that

997
00:57:48,575 --> 00:57:51,415
Speaker 2: thing of getting contractors to come back finish work to

998
00:57:51,495 --> 00:57:56,015
Speaker 2: a reasonable standard, and when they don't, having a mechanism

999
00:57:56,095 --> 00:57:58,255
Speaker 2: that means you can put pressure on them to do

1000
00:57:58,295 --> 00:58:02,135
Speaker 2: that work in a timely fashion. I don't, to the

1001
00:58:02,175 --> 00:58:05,055
Speaker 2: best of my knowledge, believe that it's out there, But Elizabeth,

1002
00:58:05,055 --> 00:58:09,975
Speaker 2: if you stay and to speak with Hope, leave your details.

1003
00:58:10,335 --> 00:58:12,455
Speaker 2: I'll try and contact you a little bit later on.

1004
00:58:13,215 --> 00:58:16,015
Speaker 2: Right now, we're going to be talking with Jay shortly,

1005
00:58:16,575 --> 00:58:20,335
Speaker 2: so if you've got any specific painting questions, feel free

1006
00:58:20,415 --> 00:58:24,255
Speaker 2: to text them through. That'll be coming up shortly, but

1007
00:58:24,415 --> 00:58:28,175
Speaker 2: just before then we'll talk to Peter about wallpaper. Good morning, Peter,

1008
00:58:29,175 --> 00:58:29,575
Speaker 2: hey man.

1009
00:58:30,175 --> 00:58:32,175
Speaker 13: This might be a flow on for Joe as well.

1010
00:58:32,455 --> 00:58:35,455
Speaker 13: So I've got a project coming up where my son's

1011
00:58:35,495 --> 00:58:38,255
Speaker 13: bought a house. He's not living in the same city,

1012
00:58:38,335 --> 00:58:40,575
Speaker 13: so I can't give you much details on it. But

1013
00:58:40,655 --> 00:58:44,375
Speaker 13: when I went down there, headed tected wallpaper that's been

1014
00:58:44,455 --> 00:58:47,815
Speaker 13: painted over the top of and he would like it

1015
00:58:47,855 --> 00:58:49,935
Speaker 13: to take it. He's just bought the house and he

1016
00:58:49,935 --> 00:58:52,135
Speaker 13: would like to take it back and do a paint. Finich.

1017
00:58:52,735 --> 00:58:55,495
Speaker 13: Now it's a nineteen sixty style house. I'm not sure

1018
00:58:55,535 --> 00:58:58,575
Speaker 13: how prevalent jib board was in those type of that era.

1019
00:58:59,135 --> 00:59:01,735
Speaker 13: But what I'm kind of to understand before we start

1020
00:59:01,855 --> 00:59:04,375
Speaker 13: ripping off stuff and then thinking, oh my god, what's

1021
00:59:04,415 --> 00:59:08,655
Speaker 13: behind the wallpaper, just as the approach to this type

1022
00:59:08,695 --> 00:59:12,175
Speaker 13: of thing, we someone's obviously painted over the top of

1023
00:59:12,215 --> 00:59:15,535
Speaker 13: the textured wallpaper and now we want to strip it

1024
00:59:15,615 --> 00:59:18,375
Speaker 13: back down again, which couldn't mean to say having to

1025
00:59:18,535 --> 00:59:22,295
Speaker 13: reline or pasturing or skimming at least to get a

1026
00:59:22,335 --> 00:59:26,895
Speaker 13: real true paint pinge. Just support how you approach this

1027
00:59:26,935 --> 00:59:28,175
Speaker 13: before covering.

1028
00:59:29,015 --> 00:59:33,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, look from my own experience, so some of those

1029
00:59:33,495 --> 00:59:38,495
Speaker 2: textured wallpapers were actually designed to be painted over. That

1030
00:59:38,615 --> 00:59:41,135
Speaker 2: was the intention, right, So like an aneglupt of paper,

1031
00:59:41,495 --> 00:59:43,575
Speaker 2: So you put it on because you wanted that texture.

1032
00:59:43,735 --> 00:59:45,855
Speaker 2: You put it on. Then you painted over it. In

1033
00:59:45,895 --> 00:59:48,135
Speaker 2: some cases, maybe it was an odd color or something

1034
00:59:48,135 --> 00:59:51,015
Speaker 2: like that, and later on people have painted it and

1035
00:59:51,055 --> 00:59:55,735
Speaker 2: then excuse me, inevitably, once it's being painted, people might

1036
00:59:55,815 --> 00:59:59,455
Speaker 2: repaint it. So the challenge to removing it is you know,

1037
00:59:59,495 --> 01:00:01,855
Speaker 2: typically you do steam, right, but the steam's not going

1038
01:00:01,895 --> 01:00:04,815
Speaker 2: to be very effective through those layers of paint. So

1039
01:00:04,855 --> 01:00:08,055
Speaker 2: you get a little thing called a paper tiger, which

1040
01:00:08,135 --> 01:00:10,655
Speaker 2: makes tiny little holes through the paint. You rub the

1041
01:00:10,735 --> 01:00:13,655
Speaker 2: surface down with a paper tiger that perforates the surface.

1042
01:00:14,255 --> 01:00:16,855
Speaker 2: Then I would just go straight down to higher pol

1043
01:00:17,415 --> 01:00:20,615
Speaker 2: and get a steamer. Use that. If you are going

1044
01:00:20,615 --> 01:00:23,695
Speaker 2: to take the wallpaper off. To steam the wallpaper off,

1045
01:00:23,815 --> 01:00:27,495
Speaker 2: it'll come off. Clean the wall up as best as possible.

1046
01:00:27,615 --> 01:00:30,455
Speaker 2: I think almost inevitably it will need a skim coat.

1047
01:00:31,455 --> 01:00:34,415
Speaker 2: So once you've cleaned as much of the paper off

1048
01:00:34,455 --> 01:00:38,935
Speaker 2: as possible, I tend to use a pigmented seala, then

1049
01:00:38,975 --> 01:00:41,415
Speaker 2: I get the stopper and to do a skim coat

1050
01:00:41,455 --> 01:00:44,695
Speaker 2: on the wall. Once that's been sanded and smooth, then

1051
01:00:44,695 --> 01:00:49,055
Speaker 2: I do a sealer again pigmented seala, then broad wall,

1052
01:00:49,175 --> 01:00:52,855
Speaker 2: and then repaint it to be fair. You may even

1053
01:00:52,895 --> 01:00:56,135
Speaker 2: get to the point where actually just pulling the plasterboard

1054
01:00:56,175 --> 01:01:01,575
Speaker 2: off and replacing it could actually be quicker, so goat feeling.

1055
01:01:01,615 --> 01:01:04,135
Speaker 13: It would be like a jib plasterboard underneath.

1056
01:01:04,975 --> 01:01:08,215
Speaker 2: I think so nineteen sixty Yeah. Absolutely. The other way

1057
01:01:08,255 --> 01:01:10,855
Speaker 2: of checking is if there's a PowerPoint or a light

1058
01:01:10,895 --> 01:01:13,695
Speaker 2: switch or something like that, just carefully take the screws out,

1059
01:01:13,775 --> 01:01:15,295
Speaker 2: have a look and you'll be able to see what

1060
01:01:15,335 --> 01:01:16,175
Speaker 2: the lining is there.

1061
01:01:16,815 --> 01:01:20,375
Speaker 13: Oh, good point, good point here. All right, okay, hey, thanks,

1062
01:01:20,455 --> 01:01:20,735
Speaker 13: thanks so.

1063
01:01:21,575 --> 01:01:24,615
Speaker 2: Hey lovely to Chack. Thank you. I certainly am much

1064
01:01:24,615 --> 01:01:27,535
Speaker 2: appreciated you. Take care. Thank you Petter your news talk

1065
01:01:27,535 --> 01:01:30,455
Speaker 2: said B and I've sort of straight. I'm off the reservation.

1066
01:01:30,575 --> 01:01:32,895
Speaker 2: I'm into Jay's territory. So I'm going to hand over

1067
01:01:32,935 --> 01:01:35,175
Speaker 2: to Jay in just a moment. If you've got a

1068
01:01:35,215 --> 01:01:38,695
Speaker 2: specific painting question, feel free to text them through now

1069
01:01:38,895 --> 01:01:42,215
Speaker 2: nine to nine two or zaid BZB from your mobile phone.

1070
01:01:42,415 --> 01:01:45,135
Speaker 2: The lines that are open, the texts are open anyway.

1071
01:01:45,335 --> 01:01:51,095
Speaker 2: If you've got a special painting question, poor Jay our

1072
01:01:51,175 --> 01:01:54,215
Speaker 2: painting expert, he'll be along straight after the break.

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01:01:54,895 --> 01:01:57,815
Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks, some's the time

1074
01:01:57,895 --> 01:02:00,135
Speaker 1: to get it sorted. Call Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1075
01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:03,455
Speaker 1: ten eighty, the resident builder with Peter wolf Cave used

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01:02:03,495 --> 01:02:04,095
Speaker 1: talks B.

1077
01:02:05,735 --> 01:02:09,095
Speaker 2: You'll news talk'd B. It is being on the dot

1078
01:02:09,215 --> 01:02:13,295
Speaker 2: seven thirty and if you've got a printing question, feel

1079
01:02:13,295 --> 01:02:16,135
Speaker 2: free to text the question through to nine two niney

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01:02:16,135 --> 01:02:18,935
Speaker 2: two for the last time this year, and with a

1081
01:02:18,935 --> 01:02:21,775
Speaker 2: great deal of gratitude for all your help this year, Jay,

1082
01:02:22,055 --> 01:02:22,855
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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01:02:23,975 --> 01:02:24,975
Speaker 13: Good morning, Pete.

1084
01:02:25,015 --> 01:02:25,495
Speaker 12: How are you?

1085
01:02:25,815 --> 01:02:32,295
Speaker 2: Greetings? Indeed, greetings, indeed it is actually you're absolutely right

1086
01:02:32,335 --> 01:02:36,335
Speaker 2: six thirty here. Well, the sun went down at about

1087
01:02:36,335 --> 01:02:42,535
Speaker 2: three o'clock. Sounds about right, how though, And I was

1088
01:02:42,575 --> 01:02:44,855
Speaker 2: watching there. There's quite a lot of work going on

1089
01:02:44,935 --> 01:02:48,855
Speaker 2: around where we're staying, and I was watching some chaps

1090
01:02:49,295 --> 01:02:52,215
Speaker 2: trying to repaint an old wrought iron balustrade, and then

1091
01:02:52,375 --> 01:02:54,455
Speaker 2: another chap doing a little bit of render on an

1092
01:02:54,455 --> 01:02:57,215
Speaker 2: old building, and I was thinking, oh, that'll be weeks

1093
01:02:57,215 --> 01:03:00,535
Speaker 2: before that's dry enough. But the next day there was

1094
01:03:00,575 --> 01:03:02,415
Speaker 2: another chap up there on the top of the ladder

1095
01:03:02,455 --> 01:03:06,255
Speaker 2: giving it a primer coke. But it must be really challenging,

1096
01:03:06,535 --> 01:03:09,895
Speaker 2: you know, when it's i don't know, during the day

1097
01:03:10,015 --> 01:03:16,215
Speaker 2: with about four hours of sunshine.

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01:03:14,215 --> 01:03:18,975
Speaker 13: Similar winter, right, yeah, yeah, those conditions. So I wouldn't

1099
01:03:19,015 --> 01:03:23,575
Speaker 13: be recommending painting, but you've got to do what you've

1100
01:03:23,575 --> 01:03:24,655
Speaker 13: got to do.

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01:03:24,655 --> 01:03:27,535
Speaker 2: You've got to do what you've got to do. Absolutely. Hey,

1102
01:03:29,015 --> 01:03:32,015
Speaker 2: you know around this time of year, my my, my

1103
01:03:32,095 --> 01:03:35,535
Speaker 2: sort of recollections from my childhood was that basically every

1104
01:03:35,575 --> 01:03:38,255
Speaker 2: summer was painting. There was something that was getting painted.

1105
01:03:38,335 --> 01:03:38,575
Speaker 5: Right.

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01:03:39,015 --> 01:03:42,135
Speaker 2: So for people that perhaps only do their painting at

1107
01:03:42,175 --> 01:03:44,615
Speaker 2: summer and it's it's a little bit here and there

1108
01:03:44,655 --> 01:03:47,495
Speaker 2: between the beach and barbecues and that sort of thing,

1109
01:03:47,855 --> 01:03:50,375
Speaker 2: what's a couple of really important things for people to

1110
01:03:50,495 --> 01:03:51,935
Speaker 2: remind themselves about.

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Speaker 13: Okay, so but take your time, like plan ahead. It's

1112
01:04:01,255 --> 01:04:03,935
Speaker 13: warming up. Like after I get off the phone phone here,

1113
01:04:04,215 --> 01:04:06,975
Speaker 13: I'm going to be scrubbing my back down. I spread

1114
01:04:06,975 --> 01:04:09,055
Speaker 13: it all with mott and mole killer yesterday, I'll scrub

1115
01:04:09,055 --> 01:04:11,775
Speaker 13: it down timber and deckwash. And then when it's dry

1116
01:04:11,855 --> 01:04:13,735
Speaker 13: before it gets too hot, I'll look at putting the

1117
01:04:13,775 --> 01:04:17,735
Speaker 13: coat of stain on my deck. I work around the sun.

1118
01:04:18,135 --> 01:04:21,495
Speaker 13: Don't sort of work in direct sunlight because stain will

1119
01:04:21,575 --> 01:04:25,615
Speaker 13: dry too quickly. Paint will dry too quickly. I'd say,

1120
01:04:25,655 --> 01:04:28,415
Speaker 13: make a plan, so stick to one one side or

1121
01:04:28,535 --> 01:04:30,415
Speaker 13: one part of the house at a time, and don't

1122
01:04:30,455 --> 01:04:35,015
Speaker 13: try and do too much. Also cover up, wear a hat,

1123
01:04:35,175 --> 01:04:38,855
Speaker 13: wear your sunscreen, and drink penny or water or fluids.

1124
01:04:38,935 --> 01:04:42,935
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I'm just thinking back to

1125
01:04:43,335 --> 01:04:45,295
Speaker 2: if she was something that Elizabeth was talking about. She

1126
01:04:45,295 --> 01:04:47,775
Speaker 2: was talking about the builder who's done a pretty poor job,

1127
01:04:47,815 --> 01:04:50,935
Speaker 2: and it sounds like part of what the problem with

1128
01:04:51,015 --> 01:04:54,415
Speaker 2: the project was is they did some weatherboards and as

1129
01:04:54,455 --> 01:04:57,775
Speaker 2: the weather boards have moved, the color the primer is

1130
01:04:57,855 --> 01:05:01,775
Speaker 2: seen and maybe she's opted for a reasonably dark color

1131
01:05:01,855 --> 01:05:05,655
Speaker 2: or something like that. I know there's the light reflectance

1132
01:05:05,735 --> 01:05:10,695
Speaker 2: value in these manufacturers details around what how dark you

1133
01:05:10,735 --> 01:05:14,295
Speaker 2: can paint particular types of clearing, particularly timber with the boards.

1134
01:05:15,055 --> 01:05:17,575
Speaker 2: If you are going to head towards a darker color,

1135
01:05:17,615 --> 01:05:20,815
Speaker 2: would you recommend painting all of the board beforehand so

1136
01:05:20,855 --> 01:05:23,775
Speaker 2: that when they do move, you don't get that break

1137
01:05:23,855 --> 01:05:24,615
Speaker 2: that line.

1138
01:05:25,215 --> 01:05:28,255
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean definitely if that's possible. You can't get

1139
01:05:28,255 --> 01:05:30,295
Speaker 13: a coat on the boards before they go up. So,

1140
01:05:30,575 --> 01:05:33,575
Speaker 13: I mean all timber moves, right, it expands and contracts throughout,

1141
01:05:34,775 --> 01:05:37,735
Speaker 13: So if you can get that code on when the

1142
01:05:37,935 --> 01:05:41,175
Speaker 13: timber moves, then you're not going to see that primer

1143
01:05:41,255 --> 01:05:46,215
Speaker 13: coat underneath. It's not always possible. So I mean the

1144
01:05:46,255 --> 01:05:50,735
Speaker 13: other thing once that timber contracts back and you see

1145
01:05:50,775 --> 01:05:53,455
Speaker 13: that primer coat, it's trying to get around them with

1146
01:05:53,655 --> 01:05:57,655
Speaker 13: some of the top coat color. Just in future years,

1147
01:05:57,735 --> 01:06:01,175
Speaker 13: is that timber moves. It's not going to be as obvious. Yeah,

1148
01:06:01,735 --> 01:06:04,375
Speaker 13: paintings painting is not going to hold your house together.

1149
01:06:05,215 --> 01:06:09,855
Speaker 2: The timbers can move, that's right, poorly fixed or whatever.

1150
01:06:09,935 --> 01:06:13,695
Speaker 2: Then that's that's not the paints problem. We're going to

1151
01:06:13,855 --> 01:06:16,415
Speaker 2: We can take the ad break now. Jay is with us,

1152
01:06:16,495 --> 01:06:19,175
Speaker 2: will come back with your text questions in.

1153
01:06:19,375 --> 01:06:23,935
Speaker 1: Just a moment, suns out tools out. Your summer DIY

1154
01:06:24,175 --> 01:06:27,855
Speaker 1: starts here. The resident builder with Petter Wolf can call

1155
01:06:28,095 --> 01:06:30,415
Speaker 1: eight hundred eight News Talk z B.

1156
01:06:31,735 --> 01:06:34,975
Speaker 2: We're talking all things painting this morning. Jay, our painting

1157
01:06:35,055 --> 01:06:38,455
Speaker 2: expert from Razine is with us. Let's do some quick

1158
01:06:38,535 --> 01:06:41,775
Speaker 2: fire text messages now. So this is on a coiler deck.

1159
01:06:42,615 --> 01:06:46,015
Speaker 2: Chris is using an oil based forest wood stain. Do

1160
01:06:46,095 --> 01:06:49,975
Speaker 2: they need to cut in as they go to prevent contrast?

1161
01:06:50,215 --> 01:06:53,175
Speaker 2: Or can they just cut in? Sorry? Can they cut

1162
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:56,375
Speaker 2: in completely and then use the applicator to finish or

1163
01:06:56,415 --> 01:06:59,335
Speaker 2: do you is the wet edge an issue with stains

1164
01:06:59,375 --> 01:06:59,815
Speaker 2: as well.

1165
01:07:01,535 --> 01:07:07,855
Speaker 13: Yes, don't just stain as you go. Obviously, painting, you

1166
01:07:07,895 --> 01:07:10,775
Speaker 13: want to maintain the wet edge with the stain if

1167
01:07:10,775 --> 01:07:13,895
Speaker 13: it's going to penetrate into the timber. If you allow

1168
01:07:13,975 --> 01:07:16,095
Speaker 13: that to happen and dry and then you go over

1169
01:07:16,215 --> 01:07:19,415
Speaker 13: that section, you're going to get more stain on the

1170
01:07:19,495 --> 01:07:22,135
Speaker 13: area that's been cut in. So then it's going to

1171
01:07:22,135 --> 01:07:24,375
Speaker 13: be a parent and you're going to picture frame the

1172
01:07:24,535 --> 01:07:28,535
Speaker 13: entire deck or area staining, So just staying as you go,

1173
01:07:28,695 --> 01:07:32,175
Speaker 13: take your time. Do tend to say, do one or

1174
01:07:32,175 --> 01:07:34,575
Speaker 13: two boards at a time, and try and do the

1175
01:07:34,615 --> 01:07:39,495
Speaker 13: whole length or a standard point, and don't try and

1176
01:07:39,575 --> 01:07:43,975
Speaker 13: overlap the areas. Otherwise it becomes very apparent because.

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01:07:43,735 --> 01:07:46,335
Speaker 2: That phrase picture frame is effectively if you were to

1178
01:07:46,375 --> 01:07:48,495
Speaker 2: cut in and then you cut in around the whole

1179
01:07:48,495 --> 01:07:51,015
Speaker 2: perimeter and then you go over it with your applicator,

1180
01:07:51,375 --> 01:07:54,175
Speaker 2: you've got two coats on money area and one coat

1181
01:07:54,255 --> 01:07:56,175
Speaker 2: or another and then you'll see the difference, is what

1182
01:07:56,175 --> 01:07:56,575
Speaker 2: you're saying.

1183
01:07:56,615 --> 01:07:57,015
Speaker 13: That's right?

1184
01:07:57,295 --> 01:08:04,335
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, brilliant morning. We've got some paint that's

1185
01:08:04,335 --> 01:08:06,295
Speaker 2: come off the wall with the bead heaters. I really

1186
01:08:06,495 --> 01:08:08,735
Speaker 2: like the paint color. How do I match the color

1187
01:08:08,815 --> 01:08:12,295
Speaker 2: if I don't know what brand and what print work

1188
01:08:12,335 --> 01:08:14,575
Speaker 2: has required? So calor mitching.

1189
01:08:16,335 --> 01:08:18,415
Speaker 13: Well, if you can take us, if you can take

1190
01:08:18,455 --> 01:08:22,775
Speaker 13: a sample into your local rosine color shop, the biggest

1191
01:08:22,775 --> 01:08:26,695
Speaker 13: bit you can get off would be better. Usually the

1192
01:08:26,735 --> 01:08:29,535
Speaker 13: smallest amount they need is something like a fifty cent piece.

1193
01:08:30,255 --> 01:08:33,495
Speaker 13: I've seen much much smaller, and I've seen people bring

1194
01:08:33,575 --> 01:08:37,895
Speaker 13: like whole doors and whole bits of furniture in. So

1195
01:08:38,015 --> 01:08:41,175
Speaker 13: the biggest bit you can bring in is the easiest

1196
01:08:41,175 --> 01:08:43,895
Speaker 13: bit and leave it with the shop stuff. But sometimes

1197
01:08:43,935 --> 01:08:45,815
Speaker 13: it's very quick and they get it straight away, and

1198
01:08:45,895 --> 01:08:49,135
Speaker 13: sometimes it takes a few days. All depends how busy

1199
01:08:49,175 --> 01:08:52,135
Speaker 13: it is in the store. So like if you can

1200
01:08:52,215 --> 01:08:55,095
Speaker 13: drop it off and leave your details and come back,

1201
01:08:55,135 --> 01:08:57,775
Speaker 13: they'll call you in sort of a day or two generally,

1202
01:08:58,895 --> 01:09:02,175
Speaker 13: and then they'll match it up. As for prep work,

1203
01:09:03,175 --> 01:09:06,495
Speaker 13: sandbag can remove any loose, flaky sort of area. Is

1204
01:09:07,815 --> 01:09:10,295
Speaker 13: usually if the paint damaged around there is going to

1205
01:09:10,295 --> 01:09:13,055
Speaker 13: need to like sand It might need a spot prime

1206
01:09:13,135 --> 01:09:17,375
Speaker 13: with like a pigmented sela like shaw seal, even the

1207
01:09:17,415 --> 01:09:22,135
Speaker 13: water borne version, and then paint corner to corner. If

1208
01:09:22,175 --> 01:09:24,415
Speaker 13: you just try and do small areas. It's likely to

1209
01:09:24,455 --> 01:09:26,895
Speaker 13: be very apparent, so just sort of aim to do

1210
01:09:27,055 --> 01:09:27,695
Speaker 13: the whole wall.

1211
01:09:28,815 --> 01:09:33,655
Speaker 2: Okay, now this is interesting. One someone needs to stain

1212
01:09:33,815 --> 01:09:37,815
Speaker 2: some horizontal dicking underneath a dick. What's the best way

1213
01:09:37,815 --> 01:09:40,815
Speaker 2: of doing it given that you're applying the stain against gravity,

1214
01:09:41,855 --> 01:09:45,495
Speaker 2: a brush or some other application. So I guess typically

1215
01:09:45,495 --> 01:09:48,775
Speaker 2: if we're staining dicks, it's you know, gravity helps the

1216
01:09:48,815 --> 01:09:50,535
Speaker 2: dick's flat. Putting the stuff on.

1217
01:09:50,535 --> 01:10:00,735
Speaker 13: Top our stain penetrates. So in that situation, i'd say

1218
01:10:01,175 --> 01:10:04,935
Speaker 13: wear some goggles, wear some overalls, and get your brush

1219
01:10:04,975 --> 01:10:09,495
Speaker 13: out and just kind of brush it. Brushing is going

1220
01:10:09,535 --> 01:10:12,975
Speaker 13: to help get apply more pressure to the areas. If

1221
01:10:12,975 --> 01:10:15,095
Speaker 13: you try and roll it's it's not going to be

1222
01:10:15,135 --> 01:10:17,335
Speaker 13: as even if you try and spray it, I don't

1223
01:10:17,375 --> 01:10:20,295
Speaker 13: think it's going to really work. So the same with

1224
01:10:20,455 --> 01:10:22,695
Speaker 13: speed brushes and stuff. I think the best method would

1225
01:10:22,735 --> 01:10:27,175
Speaker 13: be by brush. Yes, and yeah, it's going to be

1226
01:10:27,215 --> 01:10:30,415
Speaker 13: a messy job. I'd imagine why if it's the underside,

1227
01:10:30,495 --> 01:10:33,695
Speaker 13: why I'd say maybe look at painting it rather than

1228
01:10:33,775 --> 01:10:36,295
Speaker 13: staining it. But I suppose I don't know the situation.

1229
01:10:36,895 --> 01:10:39,495
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's a kentle Ever, deck, and you know

1230
01:10:39,575 --> 01:10:42,215
Speaker 2: there's a you can walk out underneath, and they want

1231
01:10:42,255 --> 01:10:45,655
Speaker 2: to do what would have been easier paint the bill

1232
01:10:45,975 --> 01:10:53,455
Speaker 2: when I put them down. Look, hindsight's always twenty twenty now.

1233
01:10:53,695 --> 01:10:57,535
Speaker 2: Chalkboard paint? Can it be tinted? And does it come

1234
01:10:57,575 --> 01:11:00,015
Speaker 2: in different colors? Do you have a razine option for them?

1235
01:11:00,975 --> 01:11:04,615
Speaker 13: We did have different different colors, but you can use

1236
01:11:04,735 --> 01:11:08,175
Speaker 13: sort of space coat flat or space cooat lo she

1237
01:11:09,695 --> 01:11:12,135
Speaker 13: they're hard wearing, cleanable paints, and then you can pick

1238
01:11:12,175 --> 01:11:14,415
Speaker 13: any of the colors in the sort of multi finish range.

1239
01:11:14,455 --> 01:11:17,295
Speaker 13: So you've got three thousand odd colors to choose from,

1240
01:11:17,655 --> 01:11:21,415
Speaker 13: and then you can use the chalk on there. Okay,

1241
01:11:21,215 --> 01:11:23,335
Speaker 13: we've just kind of got standard.

1242
01:11:22,895 --> 01:11:26,935
Speaker 2: Black chalkboard paint. Oh really, I don't.

1243
01:11:26,695 --> 01:11:28,935
Speaker 13: Know, you've just used spacecoat instead.

1244
01:11:29,855 --> 01:11:34,175
Speaker 2: Okay, brilliant? All good, Well, that's amazing. Right. Someone's had

1245
01:11:34,175 --> 01:11:36,255
Speaker 2: a new timber fence put up about a month ago,

1246
01:11:36,375 --> 01:11:39,735
Speaker 2: standard pine post and rail. They want to paint it.

1247
01:11:39,815 --> 01:11:43,295
Speaker 2: They want to know how long to leave it before

1248
01:11:43,575 --> 01:11:46,735
Speaker 2: they start painting it. What should I look for? My

1249
01:11:46,935 --> 01:11:50,095
Speaker 2: side is the shady south side, but it does get

1250
01:11:50,175 --> 01:11:53,775
Speaker 2: afternoon sun. The builder has suggested, so it's just been

1251
01:11:54,015 --> 01:11:57,095
Speaker 2: finished a month ago. The builder has suggested waiting until February.

1252
01:11:57,135 --> 01:11:57,895
Speaker 2: What do you think.

1253
01:11:59,535 --> 01:12:01,775
Speaker 13: Usually if it's been sort of treated, it's best to

1254
01:12:01,815 --> 01:12:05,815
Speaker 13: wait until the sort of smell of the treatment is dispersed,

1255
01:12:07,295 --> 01:12:10,295
Speaker 13: which especially on the south side, might take a little

1256
01:12:10,335 --> 01:12:14,415
Speaker 13: bit longer depending on the type of timber. I'm not

1257
01:12:14,415 --> 01:12:17,495
Speaker 13: sure if you said, but some sort of more hardwoods

1258
01:12:17,695 --> 01:12:20,975
Speaker 13: need time to sort of relax abit I suppose and

1259
01:12:21,055 --> 01:12:27,055
Speaker 13: weather sure, so maybe till till February could be good. Otherwise, yeah,

1260
01:12:27,575 --> 01:12:31,935
Speaker 13: I suppose it's kind of quick dry. Or we've got landscaping,

1261
01:12:32,055 --> 01:12:34,455
Speaker 13: fence and timber paintment's just sort of hit the market,

1262
01:12:34,535 --> 01:12:36,895
Speaker 13: which would would go well on there as well.

1263
01:12:37,975 --> 01:12:40,415
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's something new from from you guys.

1264
01:12:41,575 --> 01:12:43,935
Speaker 13: Yes, a new new product that's just sort of been

1265
01:12:44,015 --> 01:12:48,215
Speaker 13: launched just heading into summer, so perfectly for landscaping and

1266
01:12:49,135 --> 01:12:52,535
Speaker 13: fences in sort of that sort of pagola and outside.

1267
01:12:52,135 --> 01:12:55,655
Speaker 2: Timber awesome have do they have a look for that now?

1268
01:12:55,735 --> 01:13:00,535
Speaker 2: Clive texts there's an area of a concrete block wall

1269
01:13:00,615 --> 01:13:03,455
Speaker 2: on the ground floor which used to it's obviously being

1270
01:13:03,535 --> 01:13:06,255
Speaker 2: back filled against it, but they've pulled all of that away,

1271
01:13:06,495 --> 01:13:09,535
Speaker 2: so the earth and the concrete pathway is gone. Should

1272
01:13:09,615 --> 01:13:13,735
Speaker 2: that area be sealed before painting? So if it's beer concrete,

1273
01:13:14,855 --> 01:13:16,135
Speaker 2: how would you go about painting it?

1274
01:13:16,975 --> 01:13:19,935
Speaker 13: And it's sort of allowed to obviously dry out as

1275
01:13:19,935 --> 01:13:23,295
Speaker 13: they've just dug it all. Well, then it would be

1276
01:13:23,495 --> 01:13:26,535
Speaker 13: shore seal and then your top coat, so you could

1277
01:13:26,535 --> 01:13:29,975
Speaker 13: go lumber cider or sonics one oh one or x

1278
01:13:30,055 --> 01:13:32,415
Speaker 13: two hundred, depending on what sort of finished you're going

1279
01:13:32,415 --> 01:13:33,215
Speaker 13: on the rest of the building.

1280
01:13:36,575 --> 01:13:39,135
Speaker 2: I shod at the thought that maybe this was beckfielled

1281
01:13:39,135 --> 01:13:41,735
Speaker 2: against and it never had a waterproofing. Let's say there's

1282
01:13:41,775 --> 01:13:45,855
Speaker 2: some old like mole seal or flint coat or something

1283
01:13:45,895 --> 01:13:48,335
Speaker 2: like that that's been applied to the block. Can you

1284
01:13:48,415 --> 01:13:49,135
Speaker 2: paint over that?

1285
01:13:50,815 --> 01:13:53,735
Speaker 13: So some well what I was told, a lot of

1286
01:13:53,775 --> 01:13:57,535
Speaker 13: those creatings aren't designed to be painted. So sometimes it

1287
01:13:57,535 --> 01:14:01,015
Speaker 13: doesn't work, sometimes it works. Be try a test area

1288
01:14:01,095 --> 01:14:06,295
Speaker 13: and sea more recently sort of I've said it exactly

1289
01:14:06,415 --> 01:14:08,135
Speaker 13: the same to people and then they've tried it and

1290
01:14:08,255 --> 01:14:13,055
Speaker 13: the systems worked. So we've got membrane primer that could

1291
01:14:13,095 --> 01:14:16,175
Speaker 13: go on, or you could just try one of the

1292
01:14:16,215 --> 01:14:19,855
Speaker 13: test spots. It's kind of lumbersider and there so just

1293
01:14:19,895 --> 01:14:23,415
Speaker 13: try that and see if it sticks and adheres. But

1294
01:14:24,175 --> 01:14:28,895
Speaker 13: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Yeah, I mean as well,

1295
01:14:28,895 --> 01:14:31,215
Speaker 13: if you're going to backfill again, you could just look

1296
01:14:31,295 --> 01:14:36,655
Speaker 13: at we've got the similar sort of coding. There's other

1297
01:14:37,375 --> 01:14:39,455
Speaker 13: that sort of kind of black tank line en coding

1298
01:14:39,495 --> 01:14:42,575
Speaker 13: that can go on. We've got a version of it,

1299
01:14:42,655 --> 01:14:45,095
Speaker 13: and there's lots of other versions that you could put

1300
01:14:45,135 --> 01:14:47,855
Speaker 13: on and then backfill against again, or if you is

1301
01:14:47,855 --> 01:14:49,655
Speaker 13: probably better to leave it out and just sure se

1302
01:14:49,815 --> 01:14:52,295
Speaker 13: let and paint it all right.

1303
01:14:52,335 --> 01:14:55,255
Speaker 2: So you've got jobs to do because you're preparing for Christmas,

1304
01:14:55,975 --> 01:14:59,615
Speaker 2: and that most of us do. I don't is it hippens,

1305
01:14:59,615 --> 01:15:02,655
Speaker 2: But there'll be jobs waiting for me when I get home, Jake,

1306
01:15:02,735 --> 01:15:05,455
Speaker 2: can I say it's it's It's always a delight to

1307
01:15:05,495 --> 01:15:08,735
Speaker 2: talk with you, to yourself and to Bryce from Razine.

1308
01:15:08,815 --> 01:15:13,095
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your support and your expertise throughout the year.

1309
01:15:13,535 --> 01:15:17,055
Speaker 2: So wishing you and your family the boys are all

1310
01:15:17,095 --> 01:15:20,055
Speaker 2: the very best for Christmas and can't wait to carry

1311
01:15:20,095 --> 01:15:21,655
Speaker 2: on chatting in twenty twenty six.

1312
01:15:22,455 --> 01:15:24,135
Speaker 13: Cheers mate. I hope you have a good trip and

1313
01:15:24,375 --> 01:15:25,775
Speaker 13: great Christmas. Always enjoyed time.

1314
01:15:25,855 --> 01:15:29,015
Speaker 2: We'll see how we go lovely to be in your

1315
01:15:29,055 --> 01:15:30,695
Speaker 2: part of the world. All right, you take care of

1316
01:15:30,775 --> 01:15:33,735
Speaker 2: ja all the best. Bye. Then your news talks of

1317
01:15:33,895 --> 01:15:37,255
Speaker 2: me Jay, our painting expert from the good people at Razine.

1318
01:15:37,655 --> 01:15:40,135
Speaker 2: I didn't know about this new paint that's coming out

1319
01:15:40,175 --> 01:15:44,775
Speaker 2: which is kind of specifically designed for those outside landscaping jobs,

1320
01:15:44,815 --> 01:15:47,015
Speaker 2: fences and that sort of thing. I'll have to check

1321
01:15:47,095 --> 01:15:48,375
Speaker 2: that out and I'll tell you a bit more about

1322
01:15:48,375 --> 01:15:50,215
Speaker 2: it when I see it when I get back to

1323
01:15:50,215 --> 01:15:52,415
Speaker 2: New Zealand at the end of the year. Right, we're

1324
01:15:52,455 --> 01:15:54,935
Speaker 2: going to take a break. We'll continue with your calls

1325
01:15:55,015 --> 01:15:57,455
Speaker 2: about all things building after the break.

1326
01:15:57,895 --> 01:16:01,495
Speaker 1: From summer backyard jobs to big rednos. Let's talk it through.

1327
01:16:01,735 --> 01:16:04,255
Speaker 1: Call Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the resident

1328
01:16:04,335 --> 01:16:07,055
Speaker 1: builder with Peter WILFCAB be.

1329
01:16:08,735 --> 01:16:11,335
Speaker 2: Right o your new stalksb we've got new sport whether

1330
01:16:11,415 --> 01:16:14,775
Speaker 2: of course, top of the hour at eight o'clock after

1331
01:16:15,055 --> 01:16:19,055
Speaker 2: the news we will also as always touch base with

1332
01:16:19,175 --> 01:16:21,415
Speaker 2: root climb parts, so from eight thirty. But we're taking

1333
01:16:21,455 --> 01:16:25,815
Speaker 2: your calls right now. So if you've got a question

1334
01:16:26,295 --> 01:16:28,975
Speaker 2: of a building nature, it might be around the legislation,

1335
01:16:29,055 --> 01:16:31,535
Speaker 2: it might be the technicalities, it might be the practical

1336
01:16:31,615 --> 01:16:34,015
Speaker 2: part of it. It might be the products and tips

1337
01:16:34,015 --> 01:16:36,575
Speaker 2: and tricks. You can give us a call. Eight hundred

1338
01:16:36,615 --> 01:16:38,815
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. I'm going to have a little

1339
01:16:38,815 --> 01:16:41,815
Speaker 2: bit of a crack at some of the other painting

1340
01:16:41,895 --> 01:16:45,335
Speaker 2: questions that came in because they're not strictly painting months. Hey,

1341
01:16:45,375 --> 01:16:48,255
Speaker 2: Pete just had a few quiller floorboards replaced in the

1342
01:16:48,295 --> 01:16:51,375
Speaker 2: horse float. What can I use to seal over the

1343
01:16:51,415 --> 01:16:53,295
Speaker 2: top just to give it a bit of a longer

1344
01:16:53,335 --> 01:16:56,975
Speaker 2: life In saying that was only the edgeboards that needed replacing.

1345
01:16:57,015 --> 01:17:00,895
Speaker 2: The rest is fine after twenty two years. And I mean, gee,

1346
01:17:00,935 --> 01:17:03,855
Speaker 2: if you think that footfall on a bit of quiller

1347
01:17:04,015 --> 01:17:07,175
Speaker 2: is hard work, can I only imagine hoof marks on

1348
01:17:07,255 --> 01:17:10,335
Speaker 2: there as well. I would just go for the razine

1349
01:17:11,175 --> 01:17:14,575
Speaker 2: deck stain and apply that. It'll just help, you know,

1350
01:17:14,735 --> 01:17:17,895
Speaker 2: especially if there's moisture in there and those sorts of things.

1351
01:17:17,935 --> 01:17:20,095
Speaker 2: It'll just help seal the top of the timber and

1352
01:17:20,255 --> 01:17:24,175
Speaker 2: you could probably coat the entire surface. So enjoy that, Katrina.

1353
01:17:24,935 --> 01:17:26,495
Speaker 2: And this is a classic too. And I had this

1354
01:17:26,575 --> 01:17:30,295
Speaker 2: the other day as well. Someone who has some outside

1355
01:17:30,295 --> 01:17:34,295
Speaker 2: furniture which is apparently polypropylene and it has some fiber

1356
01:17:34,335 --> 01:17:38,775
Speaker 2: reinforcing in it. They bought them, they were not cheap,

1357
01:17:38,855 --> 01:17:42,815
Speaker 2: but now they get itchy in the fiber strands, which

1358
01:17:42,815 --> 01:17:46,495
Speaker 2: you can hardly see. I had the same thing sitting

1359
01:17:46,535 --> 01:17:49,135
Speaker 2: in one of these plastic, funky looking chairs a little

1360
01:17:49,135 --> 01:17:53,375
Speaker 2: while ago, thinking why is it itchy? Why is it uncomfortable? Anyway,

1361
01:17:53,415 --> 01:17:56,415
Speaker 2: they were asking if there is a paint or a

1362
01:17:56,455 --> 01:18:01,735
Speaker 2: sealer that can be applied to that. I will ask Bryce,

1363
01:18:01,775 --> 01:18:03,655
Speaker 2: and I'm sure if you took that question along to

1364
01:18:04,095 --> 01:18:07,335
Speaker 2: the Razine color shop there may well be something you

1365
01:18:07,375 --> 01:18:10,735
Speaker 2: could paint. The hard thing is, no matter how good

1366
01:18:10,775 --> 01:18:13,055
Speaker 2: you are at painting, it's still going to look like

1367
01:18:13,095 --> 01:18:17,255
Speaker 2: a painted plastic chair, but at least it won't be

1368
01:18:17,535 --> 01:18:21,095
Speaker 2: so itchy. I get that. I don't know whether this

1369
01:18:21,255 --> 01:18:22,575
Speaker 2: was the right thing to do or not, but I

1370
01:18:22,975 --> 01:18:26,535
Speaker 2: had some of those chairs similar to what you're describing there, Dave,

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01:18:27,855 --> 01:18:30,015
Speaker 2: and they had got a bit fairy, they had got

1372
01:18:30,015 --> 01:18:32,575
Speaker 2: a bit at cheat. I gave them. And I'm always

1373
01:18:32,655 --> 01:18:35,175
Speaker 2: cautious around water blasting because I think people do a

1374
01:18:35,175 --> 01:18:38,655
Speaker 2: lot of damage with the water blasting, but I gave

1375
01:18:38,695 --> 01:18:40,815
Speaker 2: them a good old whack with a water blaster and

1376
01:18:40,855 --> 01:18:43,335
Speaker 2: they are a little bit stripy but they are a

1377
01:18:43,375 --> 01:18:46,175
Speaker 2: lot cleaner than they were, So you know, if it's

1378
01:18:46,375 --> 01:18:49,615
Speaker 2: like this is its last chance. Otherwise they're in the

1379
01:18:50,455 --> 01:18:53,495
Speaker 2: they're on trade me for five bucks or something like that.

1380
01:18:54,615 --> 01:18:56,775
Speaker 2: Maybe hit them with the water blaster. You'd be surprised

1381
01:18:56,775 --> 01:19:00,175
Speaker 2: at how tidy it brings up though, that sort of plastic.

1382
01:19:01,655 --> 01:19:04,775
Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty, as always, is that number

1383
01:19:04,775 --> 01:19:07,335
Speaker 2: to call if you've got some questions building nature. Someone

1384
01:19:07,375 --> 01:19:12,215
Speaker 2: else was texting through a hollow vertical wood panel front

1385
01:19:12,255 --> 01:19:17,055
Speaker 2: door that needs recoating with some water stains. It's got

1386
01:19:17,095 --> 01:19:19,495
Speaker 2: water stains on it, so you need to recoat it.

1387
01:19:19,935 --> 01:19:21,855
Speaker 2: Can I do a light sand? And what do I

1388
01:19:21,935 --> 01:19:24,695
Speaker 2: recoat it with? What you need to know is exactly

1389
01:19:24,775 --> 01:19:27,575
Speaker 2: what's on there at the moment. So if it's a polyurethane,

1390
01:19:27,615 --> 01:19:30,215
Speaker 2: which is a film that goes over the top, yes

1391
01:19:30,335 --> 01:19:32,295
Speaker 2: you can give it a sand, but then you'll need

1392
01:19:32,375 --> 01:19:36,775
Speaker 2: to re polyurethane the entire door. Certainly, if you tried

1393
01:19:36,815 --> 01:19:40,415
Speaker 2: to apply a stain to the polyurethane, it will just

1394
01:19:40,495 --> 01:19:43,055
Speaker 2: sit on the surface, and in some cases it will

1395
01:19:43,095 --> 01:19:45,455
Speaker 2: sit on the surface and it won't dry and it

1396
01:19:45,495 --> 01:19:48,855
Speaker 2: will just go sticky and kind of ugly. As well,

1397
01:19:49,535 --> 01:19:52,815
Speaker 2: so you need to be aware of that. The macrocarpa

1398
01:19:52,895 --> 01:19:55,615
Speaker 2: deck that we got talking about last week on the show,

1399
01:19:55,615 --> 01:20:01,335
Speaker 2: probably around the same time. I think that the idea

1400
01:20:01,375 --> 01:20:03,535
Speaker 2: would be to sand it was painted, which is an

1401
01:20:03,615 --> 01:20:07,175
Speaker 2: unusual thing to do to macrocarpa. Anyway, I think you're

1402
01:20:07,175 --> 01:20:08,855
Speaker 2: going to have to send it and then apply a

1403
01:20:08,895 --> 01:20:12,335
Speaker 2: clear seiler. Someone's just replied to the comment about the chairs,

1404
01:20:13,135 --> 01:20:16,495
Speaker 2: spray on a matte clear coat onto the chairs. I've

1405
01:20:16,495 --> 01:20:18,695
Speaker 2: done it and it works well. Thank you very much

1406
01:20:18,735 --> 01:20:22,535
Speaker 2: for that. So a clear mate coat. You could possibly

1407
01:20:22,535 --> 01:20:25,335
Speaker 2: get one of the little low volume sprayers they're pretty

1408
01:20:25,415 --> 01:20:28,055
Speaker 2: cheap down at the hardware store, and get a clear

1409
01:20:28,095 --> 01:20:30,855
Speaker 2: coat and just spray them with that and seal that on.

1410
01:20:31,855 --> 01:20:33,735
Speaker 2: You're right, that would look a lot better than trying

1411
01:20:33,735 --> 01:20:36,655
Speaker 2: to paint it in a color, because inevitably there'll be

1412
01:20:36,695 --> 01:20:39,895
Speaker 2: brush marks and that sort of thing. So good luck

1413
01:20:39,975 --> 01:20:41,935
Speaker 2: with that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eight. You're

1414
01:20:41,975 --> 01:20:44,655
Speaker 2: just going back to Elizabeth's call that we started with

1415
01:20:45,095 --> 01:20:50,055
Speaker 2: almost top of the hor someone's text through. It amazes

1416
01:20:50,135 --> 01:20:53,895
Speaker 2: me why people employ people that are dodgy. It's the

1417
01:20:53,935 --> 01:20:57,655
Speaker 2: cost mentality that Kiwis have. I'm not I don't think

1418
01:20:57,695 --> 01:21:02,015
Speaker 2: you're suggesting. I don't think anyone's suggesting that the reason

1419
01:21:02,295 --> 01:21:06,695
Speaker 2: for the poor quality work is because someone chose the

1420
01:21:06,855 --> 01:21:09,695
Speaker 2: cheapest price. I mean, I probably have said the story

1421
01:21:09,695 --> 01:21:12,015
Speaker 2: a couple of times, but I remember hearing of someone

1422
01:21:12,055 --> 01:21:14,735
Speaker 2: who was looking for contractors to do like a small

1423
01:21:14,775 --> 01:21:16,975
Speaker 2: extension to their house. It might have been a back

1424
01:21:17,015 --> 01:21:19,455
Speaker 2: in the day, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars job.

1425
01:21:20,255 --> 01:21:26,495
Speaker 2: And they got quotes from eleven different builders. They got

1426
01:21:26,615 --> 01:21:30,255
Speaker 2: quotes from eleven different builders. They ended up choosing the

1427
01:21:30,455 --> 01:21:35,735
Speaker 2: cheapest price, and then the project didn't go well. Well,

1428
01:21:35,935 --> 01:21:39,415
Speaker 2: no surprise is there. But you know, I really do

1429
01:21:39,535 --> 01:21:45,695
Speaker 2: think if government are making moves to try and I

1430
01:21:45,695 --> 01:21:49,935
Speaker 2: suppose give some more consumer protection to people where let's

1431
01:21:49,935 --> 01:21:53,055
Speaker 2: say you've got a contractor, it starts okay and it

1432
01:21:53,215 --> 01:21:57,775
Speaker 2: ends badly at the moment, the redress is really really

1433
01:21:57,855 --> 01:22:03,175
Speaker 2: hard to enforce. You know, you reliant on people's good nature,

1434
01:22:03,255 --> 01:22:06,095
Speaker 2: You reliant on maybe putting a bit of pressure on

1435
01:22:06,095 --> 01:22:10,455
Speaker 2: people to do the right thing, but often not that easy. Radio,

1436
01:22:10,655 --> 01:22:13,215
Speaker 2: we are coming up to news, sport and weather here

1437
01:22:13,255 --> 01:22:16,575
Speaker 2: at News Talk Seed B. We're back straight after news

1438
01:22:16,575 --> 01:22:20,095
Speaker 2: sport and weather. Remember Rootcline passed from eight point thirty.

1439
01:22:20,255 --> 01:22:23,335
Speaker 2: We'll come back with more of your calls. After the news.

1440
01:22:23,775 --> 01:22:27,495
Speaker 16: Snoopy was certain and this was the end, when the

1441
01:22:27,615 --> 01:22:38,735
Speaker 16: baron cried, doun, Merry Christmas, my friend not baron. Then

1442
01:22:38,815 --> 01:22:44,855
Speaker 16: Harford a holiday toast, and Snoopy, our hero, saluted his house.

1443
01:22:45,455 --> 01:22:46,255
Speaker 5: And then when the.

1444
01:22:46,415 --> 01:22:52,735
Speaker 1: Roar sawdust, sunshine and solid advice. The resident builder with

1445
01:22:52,975 --> 01:22:55,735
Speaker 1: Peter Wolf can call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1446
01:22:55,815 --> 01:22:56,815
Speaker 1: Youth Talk z B.

1447
01:22:58,335 --> 01:23:01,575
Speaker 2: Rodio your news Talk seed B on a Sunday morning.

1448
01:23:01,775 --> 01:23:04,615
Speaker 2: If you've got a question of the building nature. If

1449
01:23:04,695 --> 01:23:07,695
Speaker 2: you're thinking, gee, god, I've got two days, maybe even

1450
01:23:07,735 --> 01:23:10,095
Speaker 2: three days, I can push it. Oh you've got today

1451
01:23:10,135 --> 01:23:12,535
Speaker 2: as well. See you're all day today to annoy the neighbors.

1452
01:23:13,615 --> 01:23:15,735
Speaker 2: Then you've got Monday, then you've got Tuesday, and if

1453
01:23:15,775 --> 01:23:18,415
Speaker 2: you're really cranking through, you could I suppose you could

1454
01:23:18,495 --> 01:23:22,295
Speaker 2: keep working on Wednesday to get a project done. Or

1455
01:23:22,335 --> 01:23:25,055
Speaker 2: maybe you're just thinking, actually it's not going to happen,

1456
01:23:25,215 --> 01:23:28,735
Speaker 2: but I'd like to get a project done between Christmas

1457
01:23:28,735 --> 01:23:31,095
Speaker 2: and New Year. You've got a bit of time off

1458
01:23:31,215 --> 01:23:33,855
Speaker 2: over the summer. We can talk about that project. Oh

1459
01:23:33,935 --> 01:23:37,415
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Again,

1460
01:23:37,495 --> 01:23:41,095
Speaker 2: my thanks to Jay for all of his advice, to

1461
01:23:41,215 --> 01:23:44,135
Speaker 2: Jay and to Bryce during the course of the years.

1462
01:23:44,255 --> 01:23:46,935
Speaker 2: It's been a real pleasure to have those two gentlemen

1463
01:23:47,495 --> 01:23:50,055
Speaker 2: on the show. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1464
01:23:50,095 --> 01:23:53,415
Speaker 2: the number to call. We're talking building and construction through

1465
01:23:53,495 --> 01:23:56,575
Speaker 2: till eight thirty. Rud, as always, will join us. At

1466
01:23:56,695 --> 01:24:00,175
Speaker 2: eight thirty. We'll jump into the garden, maybe even a

1467
01:24:00,175 --> 01:24:04,735
Speaker 2: bit of an update on the hornets that have plagued Auckland.

1468
01:24:04,815 --> 01:24:08,575
Speaker 2: At the moment, not there, continuing to catch more, but

1469
01:24:08,655 --> 01:24:12,095
Speaker 2: it seems like the search area has expanded. So I

1470
01:24:12,135 --> 01:24:15,575
Speaker 2: think Rud was very much of the opinion is a

1471
01:24:15,735 --> 01:24:18,815
Speaker 2: very short window of time in which we could contain

1472
01:24:19,095 --> 01:24:23,775
Speaker 2: that infestation or that that outbreak of these yellow legged hornets,

1473
01:24:24,295 --> 01:24:28,015
Speaker 2: and thereafter it's kind of curtains RADIOAK. So we'll talk

1474
01:24:28,015 --> 01:24:31,095
Speaker 2: about that with Rud. Come eight thirty your news TALKSB

1475
01:24:31,375 --> 01:24:35,335
Speaker 2: We are talking building and construction. Monty, A very good

1476
01:24:35,375 --> 01:24:35,975
Speaker 2: morning to you.

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01:24:37,095 --> 01:24:40,295
Speaker 12: Yes right, you'll be speak.

1478
01:24:42,015 --> 01:24:46,175
Speaker 2: I tell you what can I without laboring the point

1479
01:24:46,335 --> 01:24:52,415
Speaker 2: Today ten twelve degrees during the day, clear skies, no

1480
01:24:52,655 --> 01:24:57,775
Speaker 2: rain today, an absolutely glorious day in London and I

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01:24:57,855 --> 01:25:03,055
Speaker 2: walked from Westminster to Bayswater in the sunshine. I might

1482
01:25:03,095 --> 01:25:06,735
Speaker 2: have even got a little bit sun burnt today, just

1483
01:25:07,255 --> 01:25:12,735
Speaker 2: being beautiful saying that two days ago, absolutely thoroughly miserable, like.

1484
01:25:12,655 --> 01:25:15,655
Speaker 12: A well believe it, fully understand and they're done that anyway.

1485
01:25:15,735 --> 01:25:16,895
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's on your mind?

1486
01:25:18,335 --> 01:25:22,495
Speaker 12: Okay? You may remember while back now you recommended this

1487
01:25:23,335 --> 01:25:25,975
Speaker 12: good old suit all seiler for doing the joints in

1488
01:25:26,055 --> 01:25:30,855
Speaker 12: firebrilight decking. I was just wondering, is matter curiosity as

1489
01:25:30,975 --> 01:25:33,215
Speaker 12: any sort of a tape that you can do over

1490
01:25:33,255 --> 01:25:36,255
Speaker 12: the top of that joint that would be flexible to

1491
01:25:37,255 --> 01:25:39,575
Speaker 12: just you know, make a bit of a belt embraces

1492
01:25:39,695 --> 01:25:40,215
Speaker 12: job of it.

1493
01:25:43,015 --> 01:25:44,895
Speaker 2: I know, the sort of thing that you're talking about.

1494
01:25:45,855 --> 01:25:49,135
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're talking a tape or a reinforcing,

1495
01:25:49,695 --> 01:25:52,615
Speaker 2: then you would just be using the tape rather than

1496
01:25:52,655 --> 01:25:58,295
Speaker 2: a tape and a sealant. Sometimes there's like this bond

1497
01:25:58,535 --> 01:26:02,215
Speaker 2: breaker that you'd put behind the sealant which would allow

1498
01:26:02,255 --> 01:26:04,975
Speaker 2: it to be a bit flexible. So this is the

1499
01:26:05,015 --> 01:26:08,175
Speaker 2: surface that you're applying the ceilant too. Is what again?

1500
01:26:09,815 --> 01:26:12,855
Speaker 12: It's just ordinary fibrili decking. And they say with the

1501
01:26:13,255 --> 01:26:17,175
Speaker 12: fix all down with the gun down in the joint itself,

1502
01:26:17,815 --> 01:26:20,015
Speaker 12: and I just thought, Okay, if you could lay a

1503
01:26:20,095 --> 01:26:23,175
Speaker 12: tape over the top of that which was flexible, like

1504
01:26:23,575 --> 01:26:26,015
Speaker 12: some sort of bead or rubber or something like that,

1505
01:26:26,175 --> 01:26:28,855
Speaker 12: will it just make it just that much more durable

1506
01:26:28,895 --> 01:26:29,735
Speaker 12: for the sake of a term.

1507
01:26:30,095 --> 01:26:32,935
Speaker 11: Yeah, I.

1508
01:26:34,695 --> 01:26:37,975
Speaker 2: Do see where you're coming from. I think that if

1509
01:26:38,015 --> 01:26:43,095
Speaker 2: the substrate is fixed down reasonably well and the joint

1510
01:26:43,255 --> 01:26:45,855
Speaker 2: is what's the maximum five millimeters or so.

1511
01:26:46,855 --> 01:26:49,535
Speaker 12: Yeah, Unfortunately, when the house was built there's a bit

1512
01:26:49,535 --> 01:26:52,055
Speaker 12: of variation. Is it might be about three mill up

1513
01:26:52,055 --> 01:26:55,895
Speaker 12: to and yeah, I mean when it when it gets

1514
01:26:55,895 --> 01:26:58,295
Speaker 12: down ready narrow, then you don't get much your room

1515
01:26:58,335 --> 01:27:01,735
Speaker 12: for the stuff to expand and contract. And that's obviously.

1516
01:27:03,495 --> 01:27:07,615
Speaker 2: In that situation. If you were to take an old handsaw, right,

1517
01:27:07,895 --> 01:27:10,735
Speaker 2: the one that you weren't particularly concerned about, and let's

1518
01:27:10,735 --> 01:27:13,375
Speaker 2: say the gaps down to two millimeters or something like that,

1519
01:27:13,735 --> 01:27:16,095
Speaker 2: just with a handsaw, run that through a little bit

1520
01:27:16,255 --> 01:27:19,615
Speaker 2: and open the gap up, seal it, and then it

1521
01:27:19,655 --> 01:27:23,975
Speaker 2: gives you somewhere to put the A decent amount of

1522
01:27:24,055 --> 01:27:26,135
Speaker 2: sealant will be able to penetrate into there.

1523
01:27:27,335 --> 01:27:28,895
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think of it.

1524
01:27:30,335 --> 01:27:33,895
Speaker 2: In nine out of ten situations. If the surface is

1525
01:27:33,895 --> 01:27:37,895
Speaker 2: well prepared, you apply the pseudole sealant into that space.

1526
01:27:38,575 --> 01:27:40,015
Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to have an issue in

1527
01:27:40,055 --> 01:27:43,055
Speaker 2: terms of it not. I mean the elasticity of it

1528
01:27:43,175 --> 01:27:46,455
Speaker 2: if it's well adhered, is quite remarkable.

1529
01:27:47,015 --> 01:27:49,495
Speaker 12: Right right, Yeah. I think the other thing is the

1530
01:27:49,775 --> 01:27:51,895
Speaker 12: when you open thjoint or rip the old stuff out.

1531
01:27:51,935 --> 01:27:56,015
Speaker 12: I've got a tool act year was a useful panel beating.

1532
01:27:56,015 --> 01:27:59,535
Speaker 12: It's like a very strong hook and you can actually

1533
01:27:59,975 --> 01:28:02,095
Speaker 12: sort of dig down and then pull the stuff out.

1534
01:28:02,895 --> 01:28:05,815
Speaker 12: Then obviously cleaning that gap as much as possible for

1535
01:28:05,935 --> 01:28:08,535
Speaker 12: a and so forth. It's important otherwise to see it's

1536
01:28:08,575 --> 01:28:10,975
Speaker 12: just going to be sitting in on top of a

1537
01:28:10,975 --> 01:28:12,215
Speaker 12: dirty surface.

1538
01:28:13,935 --> 01:28:17,975
Speaker 2: Some coarse, coarse sandpaper and then brush it down really well.

1539
01:28:19,455 --> 01:28:22,055
Speaker 2: In some cases it might be worth priming the edges

1540
01:28:22,095 --> 01:28:23,815
Speaker 2: again and then applying the seedling.

1541
01:28:24,335 --> 01:28:25,735
Speaker 11: Yeah, good point, good point.

1542
01:28:27,255 --> 01:28:29,335
Speaker 2: Enjoy. That doesn't sound like a great job, but I'm

1543
01:28:29,375 --> 01:28:31,335
Speaker 2: sure you'll make a fantastic job of it.

1544
01:28:32,375 --> 01:28:36,175
Speaker 12: Yeah, a fun job, as you say, Yeah, it's just.

1545
01:28:36,655 --> 01:28:40,175
Speaker 2: It's patience and diligence is what we're after.

1546
01:28:40,335 --> 01:28:42,415
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, just doing a bit of the times obviously

1547
01:28:42,455 --> 01:28:46,135
Speaker 12: the story. So oh, thanks for your helpful thanks, much appreciate.

1548
01:28:46,215 --> 01:28:49,815
Speaker 2: Much appreciated, Monty, take care And in fact, can I

1549
01:28:49,855 --> 01:28:52,055
Speaker 2: just say I think Monty has hit the nail on

1550
01:28:52,095 --> 01:28:55,895
Speaker 2: the head to use a suitable pun. I think that

1551
01:28:56,015 --> 01:28:58,415
Speaker 2: one of the things that happens when we get frustrated

1552
01:28:58,455 --> 01:29:00,575
Speaker 2: with the jobs that we want to do ourselves is

1553
01:29:00,615 --> 01:29:05,255
Speaker 2: we don't give ourselves an appropriate amount of time. You know,

1554
01:29:05,335 --> 01:29:07,735
Speaker 2: if you know the job's going to take two hours,

1555
01:29:07,775 --> 01:29:09,855
Speaker 2: don't kid yourself and say that you'll get it done

1556
01:29:09,895 --> 01:29:12,895
Speaker 2: in one, because after an hour, you get frustrated. And

1557
01:29:13,415 --> 01:29:16,415
Speaker 2: I think Monty there was a real word of wisdom

1558
01:29:16,455 --> 01:29:18,615
Speaker 2: in there, in the sense of going, I'm going to

1559
01:29:18,655 --> 01:29:20,855
Speaker 2: pace myself. I'm going to do what I can apply.

1560
01:29:21,135 --> 01:29:24,415
Speaker 2: Maybe I'd break the job into small pieces, but each

1561
01:29:24,495 --> 01:29:27,655
Speaker 2: piece I'll do well and give myself enough time to

1562
01:29:27,655 --> 01:29:32,335
Speaker 2: do it well. Funny, I picked up a book at

1563
01:29:32,335 --> 01:29:37,175
Speaker 2: our friend's place. He's got a decent old collection, and

1564
01:29:37,215 --> 01:29:40,175
Speaker 2: he's not a carpenter, but he started to get into

1565
01:29:41,175 --> 01:29:43,815
Speaker 2: some quite beautiful building actually as it happens, and one

1566
01:29:43,815 --> 01:29:47,295
Speaker 2: of the books is about the pleasure of making things.

1567
01:29:49,015 --> 01:29:51,815
Speaker 2: What we make and why it matters is the title.

1568
01:29:51,855 --> 01:29:56,535
Speaker 2: I'll go and check that in a minute. And the

1569
01:29:56,575 --> 01:29:59,895
Speaker 2: basic theory or the premise of the book is there

1570
01:29:59,975 --> 01:30:03,615
Speaker 2: is a delight and a pleasure in doing a job

1571
01:30:03,695 --> 01:30:08,335
Speaker 2: well just for its own sake, and I quite like

1572
01:30:08,415 --> 01:30:11,775
Speaker 2: that idea. I'll put up the name of the book,

1573
01:30:11,895 --> 01:30:13,775
Speaker 2: or I'll go and grab it. I bought it with

1574
01:30:13,855 --> 01:30:16,015
Speaker 2: me and make sure I get the name and the

1575
01:30:16,415 --> 01:30:19,135
Speaker 2: author for you in just a moment. But right now,

1576
01:30:19,175 --> 01:30:22,375
Speaker 2: let's talk to Mike. Hello, sifa Hi.

1577
01:30:23,495 --> 01:30:26,415
Speaker 11: We're in the process of purchasing a stick house that's

1578
01:30:26,415 --> 01:30:29,815
Speaker 11: a brand new vote and that he's not a member

1579
01:30:29,855 --> 01:30:33,775
Speaker 11: of the Master Builders Association, but he is a licensed builder,

1580
01:30:35,055 --> 01:30:38,775
Speaker 11: and I'm that scared of interesting it has without some

1581
01:30:38,935 --> 01:30:41,655
Speaker 11: proper warranty on it, because the consumer guarantees. That's not

1582
01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:44,735
Speaker 11: hardly with what's written on it. Do you know much

1583
01:30:44,775 --> 01:30:46,735
Speaker 11: about the Halo guarantee?

1584
01:30:47,215 --> 01:30:52,095
Speaker 2: Yep. So if a Halo guarantee is attached to that

1585
01:30:52,175 --> 01:30:55,815
Speaker 2: particular project, then I'm going to presume that the person,

1586
01:30:56,055 --> 01:30:58,615
Speaker 2: the builder or the contractor is a member of the

1587
01:30:58,655 --> 01:31:02,655
Speaker 2: New Zealand Certified Builder so mz CB. They are the

1588
01:31:02,735 --> 01:31:08,815
Speaker 2: organization that offers up the Halo warranty scheme. It's fair

1589
01:31:08,855 --> 01:31:12,855
Speaker 2: to say that the way that HALO and the Master

1590
01:31:12,895 --> 01:31:17,335
Speaker 2: Builders scheme work is they're not insurances. They are a

1591
01:31:17,375 --> 01:31:23,575
Speaker 2: warranty scheme, whereby if there's a problem, the organization basically

1592
01:31:23,615 --> 01:31:27,495
Speaker 2: pays to fix it right or helps you remediate it.

1593
01:31:29,175 --> 01:31:34,215
Speaker 2: There is an insurance scheme called the Stanford Building Insurance

1594
01:31:34,255 --> 01:31:39,215
Speaker 2: Scheme that's insurance backed, so that they both aim to

1595
01:31:39,215 --> 01:31:42,735
Speaker 2: do the same thing, but they're slightly different schemes. I

1596
01:31:43,095 --> 01:31:46,375
Speaker 2: think that if you've got if this new house has

1597
01:31:46,455 --> 01:31:50,295
Speaker 2: a HALO warranty attached to it, that gives you some

1598
01:31:50,495 --> 01:31:57,415
Speaker 2: surety because at least it's backed by the group right

1599
01:31:57,895 --> 01:32:03,735
Speaker 2: by certified buildings. Over the years, I guess I've come

1600
01:32:03,775 --> 01:32:06,015
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more suspicious of these things.

1601
01:32:06,415 --> 01:32:11,255
Speaker 2: Have heard of instances where a builder has said that

1602
01:32:11,335 --> 01:32:14,535
Speaker 2: the property has a warranty and when people have gone

1603
01:32:14,615 --> 01:32:19,375
Speaker 2: to make a claim they found that in fact, while

1604
01:32:19,415 --> 01:32:21,855
Speaker 2: they applied for one, they didn't pay for one, so

1605
01:32:21,895 --> 01:32:26,855
Speaker 2: they didn't get one. Or I've heard of situations, not

1606
01:32:26,895 --> 01:32:30,535
Speaker 2: necessarily with NZCB but with others where people have paid

1607
01:32:30,855 --> 01:32:34,055
Speaker 2: for the warranty scheme but the builder has just pocketed

1608
01:32:34,095 --> 01:32:37,015
Speaker 2: the money and never actually filled out the paperwork. So

1609
01:32:38,055 --> 01:32:42,255
Speaker 2: to be sure, I would ring certified builders, give them

1610
01:32:42,295 --> 01:32:45,855
Speaker 2: the address and the details and say is this property

1611
01:32:46,055 --> 01:32:50,975
Speaker 2: registered with you? Is the HALO guarantee or warranty actually

1612
01:32:51,015 --> 01:32:51,495
Speaker 2: in place?

1613
01:32:53,255 --> 01:32:56,535
Speaker 11: Yes? Because I was sort of feeling through the land agents,

1614
01:32:56,895 --> 01:32:59,295
Speaker 11: we VERTI and she says, I was looking at the

1615
01:32:59,295 --> 01:33:01,455
Speaker 11: HALO thing, and I think of you that the actual

1616
01:33:01,495 --> 01:33:05,375
Speaker 11: purchaser had had to get that warranty. But the land

1617
01:33:05,415 --> 01:33:08,175
Speaker 11: agent said the builder was prepared to put it on.

1618
01:33:08,295 --> 01:33:10,615
Speaker 11: But as you say, he probably hasn't put it on yet.

1619
01:33:12,055 --> 01:33:15,135
Speaker 11: Only so you're only talking about it now because I've

1620
01:33:15,175 --> 01:33:18,415
Speaker 11: raised the question. But I don't like see any eight

1621
01:33:18,415 --> 01:33:21,735
Speaker 11: to nine hundred has any sort of warranty.

1622
01:33:23,015 --> 01:33:25,695
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess this is where again the current

1623
01:33:25,775 --> 01:33:29,495
Speaker 2: government has taken steps now to ensure that every new

1624
01:33:29,575 --> 01:33:33,735
Speaker 2: build because you know, I mean right now, I don't

1625
01:33:33,775 --> 01:33:37,215
Speaker 2: know how out of the twenty five thousand new buildings

1626
01:33:37,215 --> 01:33:39,495
Speaker 2: that were built in the last year, last twelve months

1627
01:33:39,575 --> 01:33:42,375
Speaker 2: or so, I don't know how many would have a

1628
01:33:42,415 --> 01:33:46,095
Speaker 2: warranty scheme attached to them. Would it be half maybe,

1629
01:33:46,215 --> 01:33:50,135
Speaker 2: would it be a quarter? Probably more likely, in which

1630
01:33:50,175 --> 01:33:52,055
Speaker 2: case it leaves a lot of consumers, a lot of

1631
01:33:52,095 --> 01:33:56,295
Speaker 2: people like yourself potentially exposed to a fair amount of

1632
01:33:56,375 --> 01:34:01,375
Speaker 2: risk or exposed to a situation where your only redress

1633
01:34:01,455 --> 01:34:04,655
Speaker 2: is to go through the courts or through a legal

1634
01:34:04,735 --> 01:34:07,615
Speaker 2: process in order to get to come back and fix it.

1635
01:34:07,655 --> 01:34:12,655
Speaker 2: And wouldn't Yeah, it would be. And I've spoken with

1636
01:34:12,695 --> 01:34:16,695
Speaker 2: so many people for whom it's become incredibly stressful and

1637
01:34:17,095 --> 01:34:21,495
Speaker 2: really quite distressing and so on, saying that it's going

1638
01:34:21,575 --> 01:34:24,215
Speaker 2: to be really interesting to see because what the government

1639
01:34:24,255 --> 01:34:27,975
Speaker 2: had basically said is probably by the end of next year,

1640
01:34:28,335 --> 01:34:31,615
Speaker 2: all new builds and all renovations over one hundred thousand

1641
01:34:31,615 --> 01:34:34,255
Speaker 2: dollars you have to be able to offer a warranty.

1642
01:34:35,655 --> 01:34:38,735
Speaker 2: What's going to be quite interesting is how many builders

1643
01:34:38,775 --> 01:34:42,335
Speaker 2: will be able to do that, and among you know,

1644
01:34:42,375 --> 01:34:44,855
Speaker 2: within the building sector, there's a bit of chat now

1645
01:34:44,855 --> 01:34:47,615
Speaker 2: that some builders might not be able to offer that,

1646
01:34:47,695 --> 01:34:50,095
Speaker 2: in which case it's going to be tough on them

1647
01:34:50,575 --> 01:34:53,855
Speaker 2: going forward either they've got to upscale or which is

1648
01:34:53,895 --> 01:34:59,295
Speaker 2: not a bad thing. But I think consumers deserve more

1649
01:34:59,335 --> 01:35:07,055
Speaker 2: protection than they've had with our current legislation and regulat framework.

1650
01:35:07,135 --> 01:35:10,935
Speaker 2: So I would get in touch with mz TV, make

1651
01:35:10,975 --> 01:35:14,255
Speaker 2: sure that the building that project is registered, that it's

1652
01:35:14,335 --> 01:35:16,975
Speaker 2: in place, and then if it is, I would take

1653
01:35:17,015 --> 01:35:18,335
Speaker 2: some certainty from.

1654
01:35:18,135 --> 01:35:19,575
Speaker 13: That, okay.

1655
01:35:19,615 --> 01:35:21,175
Speaker 11: And the other thing we are going to do is

1656
01:35:21,575 --> 01:35:25,935
Speaker 11: pay files one hundred dollars and get a property inspector. Great,

1657
01:35:26,015 --> 01:35:28,775
Speaker 11: just to have a look through the house, because we're

1658
01:35:28,775 --> 01:35:30,535
Speaker 11: in a different town completely, we're up in the north.

1659
01:35:31,815 --> 01:35:34,735
Speaker 11: This is down the South Island. So not to look

1660
01:35:34,775 --> 01:35:36,295
Speaker 11: for leaks and all that sort of stuff, so much

1661
01:35:36,295 --> 01:35:41,775
Speaker 11: as more building quality to make sure the you know,

1662
01:35:41,815 --> 01:35:43,815
Speaker 11: I just think the work's done done to a good standard,

1663
01:35:43,855 --> 01:35:45,935
Speaker 11: and get some sort of report. That would be worth it,

1664
01:35:45,935 --> 01:35:46,375
Speaker 11: wouldn't it.

1665
01:35:47,615 --> 01:35:50,655
Speaker 2: Yes, I do believe it is. You make sure that

1666
01:35:50,695 --> 01:35:55,095
Speaker 2: the person who's undertaking the work, the pre purchase inspection,

1667
01:35:55,815 --> 01:35:58,735
Speaker 2: has some qualifications, because again you don't need one to

1668
01:35:58,775 --> 01:36:01,535
Speaker 2: do that work. Ask them whether or not they have

1669
01:36:01,575 --> 01:36:06,855
Speaker 2: insurance for the quality of their work, and and you know,

1670
01:36:06,935 --> 01:36:10,455
Speaker 2: maybe get a recommendation from someone local as to the

1671
01:36:10,495 --> 01:36:14,335
Speaker 2: building reports, because again I've seen pre purchase building reports

1672
01:36:14,335 --> 01:36:16,535
Speaker 2: that are really really good, and I've seen some that

1673
01:36:16,615 --> 01:36:22,655
Speaker 2: are terrible. And I'm presuming that the building when it

1674
01:36:22,895 --> 01:36:26,935
Speaker 2: is sold will have its Certificate code compliance.

1675
01:36:27,735 --> 01:36:30,375
Speaker 11: Oh yes, yes, that's all done. Okay, that's all set

1676
01:36:30,455 --> 01:36:31,975
Speaker 11: to go again.

1677
01:36:32,095 --> 01:36:34,215
Speaker 2: In the last month, I went and looked at a

1678
01:36:34,215 --> 01:36:37,815
Speaker 2: property which then had another pre purchase inspection done, and

1679
01:36:37,895 --> 01:36:41,215
Speaker 2: the person undertaking the work feels that the building should

1680
01:36:41,335 --> 01:36:42,695
Speaker 2: never have got at CCC.

1681
01:36:44,455 --> 01:36:44,975
Speaker 11: Interesting.

1682
01:36:45,815 --> 01:36:48,695
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and that's that's in play at the moment. Actually,

1683
01:36:48,735 --> 01:36:52,655
Speaker 2: that'll be, that'll be a really interesting little discussion soon. Hey, look,

1684
01:36:52,695 --> 01:36:56,175
Speaker 2: good luck with it, ring NZCB talk about the Halo thing.

1685
01:36:56,415 --> 01:36:59,455
Speaker 2: Get someone local, make sure that they're onto it, and

1686
01:36:59,495 --> 01:37:01,095
Speaker 2: good luck with the sale and purchase.

1687
01:37:02,015 --> 01:37:05,055
Speaker 11: Very much appreciate that. Thanks so much, much.

1688
01:37:04,895 --> 01:37:08,615
Speaker 2: Appreciated lively chatting with you. Take care your news talks.

1689
01:37:08,615 --> 01:37:12,015
Speaker 2: It'd be we're going to take short break. Then we're

1690
01:37:12,015 --> 01:37:13,735
Speaker 2: going to be talking to rud I've got a couple

1691
01:37:13,775 --> 01:37:15,415
Speaker 2: of people to think. We'll come back and do that

1692
01:37:15,495 --> 01:37:16,055
Speaker 2: in just a.

1693
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Speaker 1: Moment, sorting those some effectses before the barbecue crowd arrives.

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01:37:21,135 --> 01:37:26,255
Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peter Wolfcab call eight news talks.

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01:37:26,455 --> 01:37:28,415
Speaker 2: Be your news talks.

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01:37:28,455 --> 01:37:28,695
Speaker 12: It'd be.

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01:37:29,095 --> 01:37:31,935
Speaker 2: Actually, someone's just flipped through a quick text just regarding

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01:37:32,015 --> 01:37:36,535
Speaker 2: the conversation we had with Mike Pete regarding building reports

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01:37:36,575 --> 01:37:38,935
Speaker 2: or pre purchase reports. Do they need to be supplied

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01:37:38,935 --> 01:37:42,215
Speaker 2: by an LBP. Look, to the best of my knowledge,

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01:37:42,295 --> 01:37:47,495
Speaker 2: right now pre purchase building inspections there is actually a

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01:37:47,535 --> 01:37:51,615
Speaker 2: New Zealand standard for them, so they should be able

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01:37:51,695 --> 01:37:55,015
Speaker 2: to be proven to comply with the New Zealand standard.

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01:37:56,215 --> 01:37:59,255
Speaker 2: But there is, to the best of my knowledge, no

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01:37:59,495 --> 01:38:03,295
Speaker 2: regulation that says that the person undertaking them has to

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01:38:03,335 --> 01:38:06,615
Speaker 2: be qualified in anyway, So whether that's an LBP or

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01:38:06,695 --> 01:38:10,615
Speaker 2: a registered Building survey or anything like that, right now,

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01:38:11,575 --> 01:38:17,495
Speaker 2: it's nothing to stop anyone from undertaking them, so that

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01:38:17,695 --> 01:38:21,255
Speaker 2: really should change as well, I think. Right Hey, I

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01:38:21,335 --> 01:38:23,815
Speaker 2: mentioned just before a book that I picked up off

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01:38:23,895 --> 01:38:26,975
Speaker 2: the shelf at my mate's place, which I'm really really enjoying.

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01:38:26,975 --> 01:38:30,295
Speaker 2: IM going to buy a copy. It's called Why We

1713
01:38:30,375 --> 01:38:34,495
Speaker 2: Make Things and Why It Matters The Education of a Craftsman,

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01:38:34,935 --> 01:38:37,615
Speaker 2: and it's written by an American gentleman called Peter Korn

1715
01:38:37,855 --> 01:38:43,055
Speaker 2: so krn Peter corn Why We Make Things and Why

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01:38:43,095 --> 01:38:46,015
Speaker 2: It Matters. I'm absolutely loving it. Again. I'll take a

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01:38:46,015 --> 01:38:47,775
Speaker 2: photograph of the cover and I'll put it up on

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01:38:47,935 --> 01:38:51,055
Speaker 2: social media after I've put up a picture of the

1719
01:38:51,175 --> 01:38:55,535
Speaker 2: sign that I bought today at Paul's Antiques and Islington. Hey, Look,

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01:38:56,135 --> 01:38:58,815
Speaker 2: it feels like we're the year is ending. If you're

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01:38:58,855 --> 01:39:01,575
Speaker 2: in a business situation, chances a you've been having Christmas

1722
01:39:01,575 --> 01:39:05,295
Speaker 2: parties and saying best wishes to people. I just before

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01:39:05,335 --> 01:39:07,775
Speaker 2: we chat with through it, I want to take a

1724
01:39:07,775 --> 01:39:10,455
Speaker 2: moment to thank some people that I've worked with throughout

1725
01:39:10,455 --> 01:39:14,575
Speaker 2: the year. Actually I'll start where it's most important. I

1726
01:39:14,575 --> 01:39:21,175
Speaker 2: want to thank you for your listenership. The program continues

1727
01:39:21,215 --> 01:39:25,415
Speaker 2: to grow, continues to thrive, and that happens simply because

1728
01:39:25,575 --> 01:39:28,695
Speaker 2: of your contribution to it. So thank you to you

1729
01:39:28,815 --> 01:39:33,175
Speaker 2: all for your part in the program. I've loved the conversations.

1730
01:39:33,215 --> 01:39:36,575
Speaker 2: I love coming to work on a Sunday and listening

1731
01:39:36,615 --> 01:39:40,135
Speaker 2: to you and hopefully replying and engaging and responding. So

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01:39:40,215 --> 01:39:43,935
Speaker 2: first up to you all, thank you for being part

1733
01:39:43,975 --> 01:39:47,655
Speaker 2: of the show this year. Obviously part of my business,

1734
01:39:47,655 --> 01:39:50,095
Speaker 2: part of my work is I work with a number

1735
01:39:50,095 --> 01:39:54,415
Speaker 2: of partners, which is really really important, So Metro Glass,

1736
01:39:54,855 --> 01:39:57,655
Speaker 2: and we've talked to the people from Metro about retro

1737
01:39:57,695 --> 01:40:01,695
Speaker 2: fitting double glazing and glazing in general throughout the year.

1738
01:40:01,735 --> 01:40:05,495
Speaker 2: So Metro Glass, the team there, thank you for your support.

1739
01:40:06,295 --> 01:40:09,215
Speaker 2: Thus getting on to ten years that we've been working together,

1740
01:40:09,695 --> 01:40:13,175
Speaker 2: really really appreciate that as well. Duke in New Zealand.

1741
01:40:13,615 --> 01:40:16,095
Speaker 2: That's the team from J and L. That's the Triboard

1742
01:40:16,135 --> 01:40:18,215
Speaker 2: and the Jay Frame. Gordy and all of the team.

1743
01:40:19,375 --> 01:40:22,415
Speaker 2: Thank you again for your support and for the information

1744
01:40:22,535 --> 01:40:26,455
Speaker 2: and for the innovation that you bring to the sector

1745
01:40:26,495 --> 01:40:32,175
Speaker 2: as well. Water Tanks, that's the good team. That's Bailey

1746
01:40:32,335 --> 01:40:35,775
Speaker 2: Water Tanks have been a huge supporter of the show.

1747
01:40:37,335 --> 01:40:40,575
Speaker 2: I think they're doing some really important work. Particularly you know,

1748
01:40:40,615 --> 01:40:43,815
Speaker 2: we still in an urban environment, tend to think about

1749
01:40:43,815 --> 01:40:46,135
Speaker 2: water tanks as something that people out in the country have.

1750
01:40:46,735 --> 01:40:50,575
Speaker 2: I think more and more, you know, we're looking at

1751
01:40:50,615 --> 01:40:53,175
Speaker 2: it in an urban environment as well, which I think

1752
01:40:53,255 --> 01:40:57,415
Speaker 2: is really exciting. So the team at Bailey Water Tanks,

1753
01:40:57,415 --> 01:41:00,335
Speaker 2: thank you very much for your support. Mike Olds from

1754
01:41:00,615 --> 01:41:03,255
Speaker 2: Rock Coke from Razine Construction Systems, he's been on the

1755
01:41:03,255 --> 01:41:07,255
Speaker 2: show a number of times this year. Tremendous resource for

1756
01:41:07,455 --> 01:41:11,095
Speaker 2: me in terms of understanding some of the complexity around

1757
01:41:11,095 --> 01:41:16,455
Speaker 2: claddings and cladding systems. So the team at Crasine Construction Systems.

1758
01:41:16,135 --> 01:41:20,215
Speaker 2: My thanks to all of you. Jade Promotions, We've been

1759
01:41:20,255 --> 01:41:22,695
Speaker 2: working together for a while now. This is the better

1760
01:41:22,695 --> 01:41:25,415
Speaker 2: home and garden shows that are around the country. One

1761
01:41:25,495 --> 01:41:27,895
Speaker 2: of the highlights for my year is being able to

1762
01:41:27,935 --> 01:41:31,575
Speaker 2: travel to catch up with you listeners in different parts

1763
01:41:31,615 --> 01:41:34,255
Speaker 2: of the country. So already I'm booked to go to

1764
01:41:34,655 --> 01:41:37,855
Speaker 2: Dunedin in February for the Home and Garden show. There

1765
01:41:38,215 --> 01:41:40,375
Speaker 2: I'll be traveling around the country. I'll be in Auckland

1766
01:41:40,495 --> 01:41:43,495
Speaker 2: as well. So those better home and Garden shows and

1767
01:41:43,535 --> 01:41:46,895
Speaker 2: better home and living shows around the country always a pleasure.

1768
01:41:47,015 --> 01:41:51,895
Speaker 2: So to Hamish and Jossh and Emily at Jade Promotions,

1769
01:41:51,975 --> 01:41:56,015
Speaker 2: thank you for the work that we do together. It's

1770
01:41:56,055 --> 01:41:58,375
Speaker 2: been a real pleasure for me this year to engage

1771
01:41:58,415 --> 01:42:02,215
Speaker 2: with Stark Ambience uPVC. So this is u PVC joinery.

1772
01:42:03,175 --> 01:42:06,255
Speaker 2: Now that I'm connected with them and working with them,

1773
01:42:06,095 --> 01:42:09,415
Speaker 2: I'm wandering around here in London throughout the UK looking

1774
01:42:09,455 --> 01:42:11,975
Speaker 2: at uPVC because they've had it here for a long

1775
01:42:12,135 --> 01:42:14,735
Speaker 2: long time and it's proven it south here. So the

1776
01:42:14,775 --> 01:42:18,335
Speaker 2: fact that Stark and Ambience UPBC is available in New

1777
01:42:18,415 --> 01:42:22,615
Speaker 2: Zealand it's super exciting. Really love the contact with those

1778
01:42:22,655 --> 01:42:26,455
Speaker 2: guys as well. And you know you look after your feet,

1779
01:42:26,535 --> 01:42:30,095
Speaker 2: so my mates, Martin and all of the team at

1780
01:42:30,135 --> 01:42:34,015
Speaker 2: Apex Boots again, my thanks to you for your support

1781
01:42:34,055 --> 01:42:36,855
Speaker 2: and for looking after my feet and everybody else's as well.

1782
01:42:36,895 --> 01:42:39,255
Speaker 2: If you've got your Apex boots, you know you're well

1783
01:42:39,255 --> 01:42:42,535
Speaker 2: looked after. So the team at Apex Boots, so I

1784
01:42:42,655 --> 01:42:45,775
Speaker 2: thank them for their contribution. I learn an enormous amount

1785
01:42:45,815 --> 01:42:50,815
Speaker 2: from them, I really really do, and I'm incredibly grateful

1786
01:42:50,855 --> 01:42:53,575
Speaker 2: to them. So we continue to look forward to working

1787
01:42:53,615 --> 01:42:56,935
Speaker 2: with them in the new year, and I'm looking forward

1788
01:42:57,015 --> 01:42:58,935
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty six. I think it'll be a pretty

1789
01:42:59,015 --> 01:43:03,655
Speaker 2: challenging well, well, there is challenging this year, let's hope

1790
01:43:03,695 --> 01:43:10,455
Speaker 2: not for the sector, but there's changes of foot So

1791
01:43:10,615 --> 01:43:13,055
Speaker 2: if you think the changes came fast and furious in

1792
01:43:13,135 --> 01:43:15,135
Speaker 2: terms of the legislation and so on this year, I

1793
01:43:15,135 --> 01:43:16,695
Speaker 2: think we'll see a bit more of it next year

1794
01:43:16,695 --> 01:43:18,855
Speaker 2: and some of what has talked about or has been

1795
01:43:18,895 --> 01:43:23,295
Speaker 2: talked about this year will will bear fruit, let's say,

1796
01:43:23,335 --> 01:43:26,255
Speaker 2: next year. And again, just on a personal note, my

1797
01:43:26,335 --> 01:43:29,415
Speaker 2: thanks to Chris Pink. I've been doing this job for

1798
01:43:29,455 --> 01:43:35,375
Speaker 2: about eleven years now. Without wanting to kind of ingratiate

1799
01:43:35,415 --> 01:43:38,455
Speaker 2: myself with him or to be biased or anything like that.

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01:43:39,175 --> 01:43:41,335
Speaker 2: I really can't think of a minister who's been more

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01:43:41,375 --> 01:43:44,695
Speaker 2: engaged with the sector in the eleven years that i've

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01:43:44,695 --> 01:43:46,655
Speaker 2: been doing the show or the twenty odd years that

1803
01:43:46,655 --> 01:43:51,615
Speaker 2: i've been doing building related topics. So during the year,

1804
01:43:51,615 --> 01:43:54,815
Speaker 2: he's been into the studio on two occasions. I've met

1805
01:43:54,855 --> 01:43:57,455
Speaker 2: him at any number of events. It's been a top

1806
01:43:57,455 --> 01:44:00,975
Speaker 2: bloke to deal with. And there's been experts that we've

1807
01:44:01,015 --> 01:44:02,975
Speaker 2: had on the show. We had Mike Thornton the lawyer

1808
01:44:03,015 --> 01:44:05,135
Speaker 2: a little while ago. We've had any number of experts

1809
01:44:05,215 --> 01:44:07,375
Speaker 2: and whenever I've read out to them, to the team

1810
01:44:07,375 --> 01:44:09,895
Speaker 2: at Brands that I went to visit earlier in the year,

1811
01:44:09,935 --> 01:44:14,375
Speaker 2: looking forward to a return visit. There's some great people

1812
01:44:14,495 --> 01:44:17,735
Speaker 2: out there and it's a pleasure to Haley, who is

1813
01:44:17,815 --> 01:44:21,415
Speaker 2: my business manager. My thanks to you for your support

1814
01:44:21,495 --> 01:44:24,015
Speaker 2: during the year. It's not an easy job looking after me,

1815
01:44:24,855 --> 01:44:27,295
Speaker 2: and I thank you for the effort and the diligence

1816
01:44:27,335 --> 01:44:29,015
Speaker 2: that you put into that and the support that you've

1817
01:44:29,015 --> 01:44:32,215
Speaker 2: given me as well. And actually I think my mum's listening,

1818
01:44:32,295 --> 01:44:34,055
Speaker 2: so given that I've been away for a little while,

1819
01:44:34,055 --> 01:44:36,415
Speaker 2: I do want to say i'd a mum looking forward

1820
01:44:36,415 --> 01:44:39,095
Speaker 2: to getting home and hopefully have a great Christmas with

1821
01:44:39,135 --> 01:44:41,575
Speaker 2: the rest of the family and to my own family

1822
01:44:41,615 --> 01:44:44,295
Speaker 2: who I'm lucky enough to be traveling with. You know,

1823
01:44:44,735 --> 01:44:47,135
Speaker 2: I couldn't do this job without their support as well,

1824
01:44:47,575 --> 01:44:50,335
Speaker 2: So thank you, folks. I do wish you a happy

1825
01:44:50,495 --> 01:44:54,775
Speaker 2: and holy Christmas and looking forward to catching up with

1826
01:44:54,895 --> 01:44:57,535
Speaker 2: Rut in just a moment. So we've got some calls

1827
01:44:57,615 --> 01:45:00,135
Speaker 2: already on the line if you want to join us

1828
01:45:00,135 --> 01:45:03,655
Speaker 2: and talk all things gardening in the wonderful world of entomology.

1829
01:45:04,135 --> 01:45:06,655
Speaker 2: Root Climb Past is standing by. We're talking to than

1830
01:45:06,935 --> 01:45:07,455
Speaker 2: just a moment.

1831
01:45:08,815 --> 01:45:11,455
Speaker 1: If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks, sum as the

1832
01:45:11,495 --> 01:45:13,735
Speaker 1: time to get it sort of call Oh, eight hundred

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01:45:13,775 --> 01:45:16,975
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.

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01:45:17,095 --> 01:45:20,375
Speaker 1: News Talk zed B. For more from the Resident Builder

1835
01:45:20,455 --> 01:45:23,175
Speaker 1: with Peter Wolfcamp, listen live to News Talk said B

1836
01:45:23,335 --> 01:45:26,255
Speaker 1: on Sunday mornings from six, or follow the podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio