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Speaker 1: Charles Feldman US correspondence with US Now Hallo, Charles Hell, Heather, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how do you write the chances of it getting through

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Speaker 1: the House.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there are a lot of Republicans, not

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Speaker 2: just Democrats in the House who are objecting to the

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Speaker 2: version that the Senate just passed and kind of squeaked

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Speaker 2: by the Senate, and so some of them are saying

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Speaker 2: that they are not going to support the bill in

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Speaker 2: its form. But you know, time and time again, you know,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has proven to be a powerful political force,

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Speaker 2: and you know, through threats and however else he manages

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Speaker 2: to corral people in his own party, he does manage

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Speaker 2: to more often than not get his way. So if

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Speaker 2: I had to bet there will be something something that

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Speaker 2: the House will pass, whether or not it's going to

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Speaker 2: have any significant changes, that we are going to find

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Speaker 2: out in the next probably twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Is I mean, it feels to me like he has

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Speaker 1: possibly met his match and Elon and both of them

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Speaker 1: are issuing threats about this. Which of them do you

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Speaker 1: think is going to win?

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Speaker 2: Well, of course one of them. Donald Trump is president

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Speaker 2: of the United States. So you have to sort of

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Speaker 2: put one point in his corner in terms of a

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Speaker 2: power play. Elon Musk, while the richest man reputedly anyway

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Speaker 2: in the world, certainly has power. You know, he's not president,

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Speaker 2: but he has said Musk that any you know, representative,

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Speaker 2: congress person, senator who votes for this bill, which he

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Speaker 2: thinks is abhorrent, he will not rest until he throws

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Speaker 2: his considerable money into political challenges to their seats. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it comes down to who are you

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Speaker 2: more afraid of, if you're a representative in Congress, President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Or more afraid of Elon? Wouldn't you because money absolutely talks,

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Speaker 1: whereas Trump is sort of he could change his mind.

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Speaker 1: Could you could go against him this time still win

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Speaker 1: him over? But masks, Musk's money actually is going to

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Speaker 1: make a massive impact.

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Speaker 2: Well, it will, and you're right, money has an enormous impact,

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Speaker 2: especially on US politics. But you have to keep in

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Speaker 2: mind that that Trump and the MAGA movement and I'm

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Speaker 2: using that word specifically movement. You know, it's very hard

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Speaker 2: for his base to go against him. And if that

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Speaker 2: base thinks that they should or the representatives should vote

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Speaker 2: for this bill, it's going to be hard for representatives

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Speaker 2: to go against the President. But having said that, Heather,

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Speaker 2: this bill is extremely unpopular. Poll after poll after poll

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Speaker 2: is showing that the majority of Americans, across all demographic groups,

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Speaker 2: across all parts of the United States don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. Now what's going on with P. Didy.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the trial is ongoing, the jury indicating

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Speaker 2: earlier today that it had reached a verdict on some

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Speaker 2: of the charges against him. Of course we don't know

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Speaker 2: what the verdict is, but they were not able to

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Speaker 2: reach a verdict on actually what is the most significant charge,

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Speaker 2: which is a racketeering charge, and it carries the most

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Speaker 2: sizeable prison term if convicted on it. They sent notes

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Speaker 2: out to the judge saying that there are members of

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Speaker 2: the panel that, you know, they just won't change their mind,

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Speaker 2: and judges do have a certain degree of power to,

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Speaker 2: you know, insist that jurors go back into the deliberation

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Speaker 2: room until they reach a verdict. But at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, there does come a time when if

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Speaker 2: they cannot reach a verdict on that particular charge, then

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Speaker 2: they would have a hung jury on that one charge.

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Speaker 1: Can we assume that if they have reached a unanimous

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Speaker 1: agreement on some of those charges that it would be guilty.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm reluctant. I've covered so many court cases over

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Speaker 2: the years. I learned a long time ago never to

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Speaker 2: try to guess what the jury is going to do

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Speaker 2: or not do, since I wasn't in the courtroom and

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Speaker 2: I wasn't TV to the presentation of evidence. So I'm

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Speaker 2: going to pass on predicting how the jury is going

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Speaker 2: to vote. I've seen durers come back quickly with a

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Speaker 2: guilty verdict, I've seen them come back quickly with a

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Speaker 2: not guilty verdict, and you know every variation thereof. So

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Speaker 2: it's really it's just impossible to tell.

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Speaker 1: Charles. Thanks appreciate it. Charles Feldman Us correspondence. For more

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