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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome all you great New Zealanders to the

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Speaker 2: Matt and Taylor Afternoons podcast. Great show today, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Big Monday.

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Speaker 2: We had someone ring in and sell their product for

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Speaker 2: a bit we should have hung up on. But you'll

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Speaker 2: probably notice that and just ignore that person.

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Speaker 3: Just move on, move on fast, move on from that.

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Speaker 2: Person when you get to it. But some good topics today,

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Speaker 2: a lot of celebration around sport and America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: Well, and also you mentioned you went to the Auckland DEFC,

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Speaker 3: which was a big day for you, and then a

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Speaker 3: very interesting night for you, Matt Heath, you ended up

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Speaker 3: in some pretty unfortunate situations.

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Speaker 2: Wow, fortunate at the time, unfortunate the next day as

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Speaker 2: it is. But yeah, the Auckland FC was fantastic. But

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Speaker 2: what an incredible, incredible weekend of sport. Later on in

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Speaker 2: the show, we get into parking revenge around an article

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Speaker 2: I wrote for my substackmet Heeath dot substack dot com

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Speaker 2: around parking and vengeance.

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Speaker 3: And what I didn't know about this story after I

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Speaker 3: read the conclusion it was a nice conclusion. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: it turned out the enemy, someone you thought was being

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Speaker 3: incredibly difficult and a bit of an a hole, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: turned out to.

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Speaker 2: Be He's got to be careful not to personify what

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Speaker 2: people are doing. Yeah, because do you think people Sometimes

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Speaker 2: you think people are purposely trying to take you down,

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Speaker 2: but there's often another explanation.

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Speaker 3: It was someone you'd never expect yet me put it

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so that there was a real learnings in

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say good chat on the America's Cup

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Speaker 3: Dalton whether he is going to bring it back to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. I actually think it was fifty to fifty

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Speaker 3: on whether he's going to bring it back. How much

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Speaker 3: money do we inject into it? Do we love a

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Speaker 3: party in New Zealand. You're a massive party fan, You're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a messive about the parties. But it's not

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Speaker 2: that America's Cup's not coming back. Is that a spoiler?

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Speaker 2: It's a spoiler. I think we got to that opinion

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Speaker 3: And also we had a chat to a bariatric surgeon

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on these a zim peck and whether you can

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Speaker 2: just take a pearl and solve all your all your

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Speaker 2: ob city problems can for a while, but like everything,

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Speaker 2: there's the punishing hard work that you actually have to do.

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Speaker 3: It was full circle that discussion.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, then give them a taste of Kiwi.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to the pod.

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Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four used talk zibby.

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Speaker 5: Jan Life.

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Speaker 6: Jim.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are the champions on the sporting front. What

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Speaker 3: a weekend for the Kiwi's Matt Nath.

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Speaker 2: No time for losers because we are the champans of

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll just go through the list of our achievements.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the black Caps incredible. The silver ferns,

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Speaker 2: The pedal ferns. Now that what do the pedal ferns do?

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Speaker 2: The pedal ferns is some kind of water bays polar

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Speaker 3: They have one and they are legends. The white ferns Auckland,

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Speaker 3: the FC team New Zealand, Liam Lawson, hat and wild

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Speaker 3: and as a texta mentioned as well Ali Wallerstone as

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Speaker 3: well on the cycling track. I mean, how good are we?

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Speaker 2: Are we the greatest sporting nation of all time this weekend?

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Speaker 2: across of everything. What was what was the What was

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Speaker 3: Of course I loved it all, but the one that

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows what's going on in the exactly your highlight.

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Speaker 2: Well out to the Auckland f C. And that was

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Speaker 2: just a beautiful event. It shows that New Zealanders can

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Speaker 2: very very very good time. It was so well run.

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Speaker 2: The team looked amazing. That's been brought together help of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once again, And this happens a lot in my life.

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Speaker 3: Right on to the show today. After three o'clock, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to talk about pety revenge actually,

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Speaker 2: What's okay? And does that make the world a better

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Speaker 2: It's a lot for me to call a tower. It's

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Speaker 2: is to look at the way other people behave and go,

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Speaker 2: I know that that's not the right way to behave.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to behave in a different way than that,

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Speaker 3: That's good. That's after three o'clock. After two o'clock. The

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Speaker 3: need to look at subsidizing these drugs? Oh, zempick, as

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Speaker 3: the ever such a thing as a silver bullet? A shortcut?

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Speaker 3: Matt Heath, you feel pretty strongly about this.

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Speaker 2: No, there's only you've got You've got to You've got

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Speaker 3: Right I've got a different take on that one, But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's talking about it. We won the America's Cup again.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there's no doubt we cared about it less because

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Speaker 2: and there's a billionaire jumps on board and says that

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Speaker 3: Well, Dalton was grunt Dalton was on with Mike this morning,

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Speaker 7: It has never been off the table. We never went

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Speaker 7: we're coming home.

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Speaker 8: The chances, as you sit here right now, hand on heart,

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Speaker 9: I've heard nothing, not a dicky bird, not a booth.

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Speaker 9: So I actually have no I can't actually answer that

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Speaker 9: So is it our.

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Speaker 2: Job to go out and go please come home? He

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Speaker 2: All is forgiven. Also, he says his job is to win,

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Speaker 2: and maybe that's true for his his you know, for

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Speaker 2: home and we had the party here and then, you know,

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Speaker 2: do your best to win. But is the winning the

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Speaker 3: It was amazing having a party here, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was an incredible party. You're just traveling around that.

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Speaker 2: as New Zealanders care less and less about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the buy in for this particular cup.

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Speaker 2: The worst thing that could possibly happen is that we

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Speaker 2: Okay, say it in one sentence, bring it home. What

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Speaker 3: We'll find money for that summer house. I wait, undred

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Speaker 2: No, he's just saying enough to make it sound like

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Speaker 3: What do you say, O eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 11: Oh, he's definitely not brigging it back. He's he's just

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Speaker 11: It's not just it's not just for us to get

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Speaker 2: How much would you be happy with New Zealand putting

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Speaker 11: I think they've just got to weigh up how much

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Speaker 2: Do you believe those ruth whenever I hear them. I'm

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Speaker 2: How much is that?

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Speaker 2: We spending money in different areas that they wouldn't they

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Speaker 3: Wow that you know.

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Speaker 2: So that's the question, because how much can we actually

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Speaker 3: It's not like putting in an investment fund, is it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I think you've got to lean into

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Speaker 11: Ruth, I think so, because even long term, you don't

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Speaker 3: But to me, I'm with you. The fact that we

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Speaker 2: So the global TV numbers may not be as big

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Speaker 3: So you're saying, forget about Dalton and the games that

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Speaker 2: Just lead him on at the last minute, just pull

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Speaker 3: Just jokes, just jokes. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the news speakers, the Mike

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Speaker 8: The business of the America's Cup, the team you see them,

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Speaker 8: Are you locking the team down? What are you doing

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Speaker 9: Of that, Well, nothing yet, it's actually just afterwards. But

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Speaker 9: ourselves a question, We've just lost this America's Cup. Why

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Speaker 9: See his way to put it. The decisions that are

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Speaker 9: the same for every team. You make your decisions now

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Speaker 3: ZB twenty six past one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's talking about it. Rat chat, Carry had this

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Lork I agree with Ruth.

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Speaker 14: I think, look, we're not ready for the next two years,

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Speaker 14: is have the juniors and the Woman's America's Cup doing

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Speaker 2: Hey just one second, Dean, and not want to look

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Speaker 2: like an idiot here, but what do you mean by Jedda.

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Speaker 14: Well, Jenna is in Saudi Arabia where they looking at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we were both sitting here googling like mad

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yep, I.

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Speaker 2: Got a picture of the Volkswagens. You said that about it.

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Speaker 14: It's going to be Doha or Jenna, one of the two.

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Speaker 14: That's where the money is that they come from. Now, Jenna,

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Speaker 14: it's just working hot in summer. You do it in

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Speaker 14: you could do the juniors and the Woman's Americas coup

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Speaker 3: Just just quickly, Dean, do you think and sorry to

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Speaker 3: jump in mid mid sentence, but do you think Dalton

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Speaker 3: may do us dirty? Because you mentioned Saudi Arabia. Money's

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Speaker 3: no problem for them. They've got heaps of it. That

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Speaker 3: it may be that, you know, we offer the fifty

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Speaker 3: million bucks he needs, but then Saudi Arabia turn around

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Speaker 3: and say we'll give you five hundred million, and he

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Speaker 3: will do us dirty there.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's just not for dolphins, for New Zealand as well,

445
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Speaker 14: and and the maritime, the machinery behind New Zealand behind that.

446
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Speaker 14: So the more the money that Saudi Arabia's paid to

447
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Speaker 14: push into the America's cup, the more the money that

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Speaker 14: New Zealand makes out of it. All I'm saying is

449
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Speaker 14: that we're just not ready for the next two years,

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Speaker 14: but we could put somebody together on four. It's sucked

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Speaker 14: the money out of the Saudi Arabians or Guitarians before

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Speaker 14: there and then and we're ready to go for it

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Speaker 14: in eight Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Dean Bark is obviously talking about not Dean Bucker,

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Speaker 2: so you're Dean Dalton's obviously talking about winning being the

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Speaker 2: most important thing to him. He doesn't care where it

457
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Speaker 2: is really as long as he's winning. But in New Zealand,

458
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Speaker 2: we care more about where it is than when we win. Basically,

459
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Speaker 2: if they brought it down here and we get another

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Speaker 2: big party down here and we get to see the

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Speaker 2: America's Cup and we get to showcase what we've got

462
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Speaker 2: here to the world, isn't that surely more important than

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Speaker 2: the actual winning of it?

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Speaker 15: Dean?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I agree, But Dalton needs to be cashed up

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Speaker 14: before he can do that, and one more event like

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Speaker 14: Saudi Arabia or Kata or cash a Mark to put

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Speaker 14: him in a position to say that we're ready to

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Speaker 14: rock in New Zealand. We're not ready in the next

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Speaker 14: two years, but in four years we could have a

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Speaker 14: massive party. Until then, godess to port Dalton to keep

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Speaker 14: it in line and have something like the Woman's World

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Speaker 14: Cup over here in New Zealand. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 14: I'll be able to do it up there anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that's a very good point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good girl.

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Speaker 2: Would probably be better for the woman to be sailing down there,

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Speaker 2: down here than up there.

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Speaker 3: And can we keep Dalton in line? I don't think

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Speaker 3: anyone can keep Dolden. Nobody puts Dalton in the corner.

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Speaker 3: It is half past one.

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Speaker 4: Jew's talks. There'd be headlines with.

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Speaker 16: Blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 16: And jury has been selected for the trial of a

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Speaker 16: Fei Bao. Funding has been confirmed for the next seven

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Speaker 16: years for the Dunedin and christ Church Multidisciplinary Health and

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Speaker 16: Development Studies two million dollars annually. The four long form

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Speaker 16: birth Cohort studies have followed thousands of babies from birth

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Speaker 16: and produced thousands of reports since the nineteen seventies. The

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Speaker 16: Medical Councils introducing fast track registration for international medical graduates

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Speaker 16: to allow applications to be processed within twenty working days.

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Speaker 16: Former top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson has revealed his at

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Speaker 16: a heart procedure after a sudden health deterioration. The Takespay's

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Speaker 16: Union has ticked off Health New Zealand spent sixty thousand

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Speaker 16: dollars on catering for breakfast, lunch and snacks at a

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Speaker 16: conference attended by three hundred senior staff. Helfenzied's been approached

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Speaker 16: for comment Chat GPT, like AI models can correctly forecast

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Speaker 16: hospital flu surges. You can see more at ins and

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Speaker 16: here all premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan, and we are talking about

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Speaker 3: the America's Cup on the back of the wind. Does

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Speaker 3: it need to be walked back brought back to New Zealand?

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Speaker 3: And do you think Grant Dalton really cares about us anymore?

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighteen eighty is a number to call,

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Speaker 3: sue you're not so hot on its coming back here

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Speaker 3: or at least spending money on it.

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Speaker 17: Oh hi Tyler, I'm matte. Well, money talks, doesn't it.

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Speaker 17: But no, no, I'm not not telling you. Why didn't

510
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Speaker 17: the mayors say this morning it would cost Auckland is

511
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Speaker 17: at least one hundred and eighty three million. Well, I

512
00:23:46,173 --> 00:23:52,693
Speaker 17: think it's all about perception. The council have well done

513
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Speaker 17: for cost cutting purposes, been very scrugually taking rubberspons away,

514
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Speaker 17: tilletts are probably going to be cut to fortnightly. A

515
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Speaker 17: lot of the other services have been cut. We're in

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Speaker 17: a downturn and the public are being told to tighten

517
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Speaker 17: their belts a bit.

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Speaker 15: More of this.

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Speaker 17: No notious lest one, mind you, And I don't think

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Speaker 17: in many ways there is really an appetite for corporate

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Speaker 17: while there at this point of time.

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Speaker 2: But sue, what's wrong with having fun? What does it

523
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Speaker 2: every Because for everything you're ever going to do, someone's

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Speaker 2: going to say there's something more worthy, or there's perception,

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Speaker 2: and there's someone that always put up their hand to

526
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Speaker 2: go we can't do that because that isn't worthy enough.

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Speaker 2: But isn't a country more than just doing the worthy things?

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Speaker 2: Don't we have to get together as a nation and

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Speaker 2: do things that we can feel proud of. Don't We

530
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Speaker 2: boost productivity when we feel good as a nation and

531
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Speaker 2: we show the world that we're that we're high tech,

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Speaker 2: and we're special and we're beautiful and we're going places.

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Speaker 6: So hell have a pitch su Well, Well, the thing

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Speaker 6: is this, I don't have the access that goes on it,

535
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Speaker 6: but apparently it's not that widely watched overseas.

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Speaker 17: There's not a lot of interest in it. And where's

537
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Speaker 17: the real figures? I mean, then anyone can you know,

538
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Speaker 17: sort of put a figure up there, but what are

539
00:25:24,933 --> 00:25:28,133
Speaker 17: the real figures? That might benefit a few, but it

540
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Speaker 17: might disadvantage a lot more. And I think we need

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Speaker 17: to get on our seat excellent and start getting our

542
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Speaker 17: city because I mean, have it in christ Sets, but

543
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Speaker 17: I think in Auckland it's a real mess at the moment,

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Speaker 17: has been for quite some time.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people would agree on the mess side

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Speaker 3: of things. So but are you going to say, Maddie,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you that. I mean, how many council funded

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Speaker 3: events do we have in Auckland, aligne. But across the country,

549
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Speaker 3: in christ Huge, Wellington, wherever you are, there will be

550
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Speaker 3: plenty of events sponsored by council that do not make money,

551
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Speaker 3: but they do that because it's good for the people

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Speaker 3: to have those events.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to feel proud of our country and

554
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Speaker 2: we have to do things that make feel proud of

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Speaker 2: our country. And I'm not saying that this is the

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Speaker 2: right thing to do, but I just think that argument

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Speaker 2: that there's always there's always the argument that's something more worthy.

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Speaker 2: But maybe it is quite worthy to create patriotism in

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Speaker 2: your country and get us all together as a team

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Speaker 2: behind something. Those feel good moments, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to be said for them.

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Speaker 3: It brings us together. Bob, what do you reckon?

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Speaker 18: Well, I think first of all, before they're even going

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Speaker 18: to consider coming down here, they've got to put in

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Speaker 18: the infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we already put that infrastructure in for the last time.

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Speaker 18: No, it's not enough, it's not done yet. It's still

568
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Speaker 18: a lot to be done. And we've just heard on

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Speaker 18: the news today that New Zealander thirty second equal when

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Speaker 18: it comes to not being able to produce in the.

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Speaker 2: Infrastructure, that is the problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tow Auckland.

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Speaker 18: I mean, look at that bridge. They've got the Divide

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Speaker 18: Act basin costs three million to build and they I'm

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Speaker 18: looking at ten million to fix it.

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Speaker 2: That's a humiliator that the fact that there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: fixed yet and how much it's going to cost to

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Speaker 2: fix that is. I think that's humiliating for our country.

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Speaker 18: And put infrastructure. I don't think I'm sure Dalton would

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Speaker 18: bring it back if the infrastructure was already here. I mean,

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Speaker 18: last time they're offered him I think about ninety nine million,

582
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Speaker 18: but most of that was in kind not in cash,

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Speaker 18: and in this lot they need cash. But beyond that

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Speaker 18: there is right at this time, there is still benefit

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Speaker 18: coming back to New Zealand because of these boats. For instance,

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Speaker 18: all the foil things you know, operating for the you know,

587
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Speaker 18: for the foil liftings and all for all these American Cups,

588
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Speaker 18: they are all produced in New Zealand from the all

589
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Speaker 18: the mass alloy spars are building, all the masks and

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Speaker 18: I even understand razine paints in razine coatings they even

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Speaker 18: have because the product that is going on the foils

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Speaker 18: which team New Zealand found all these hey where you

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Speaker 18: get that stuff from?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 18: Razine and New Zealand produce it. So even though it's

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Speaker 18: over in being in Barcelona, there is a lot of

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Speaker 18: money coming into New Zealand because of the America's Cup

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Speaker 18: being held where it is, you know, overseas.

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Speaker 2: We've got sort of an annoying, punishing catch twenty two

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Speaker 2: situation going on in this country, haven't we Where everything

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Speaker 2: we need to do we can't do because it costs

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Speaker 2: too much.

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Speaker 3: We're on the big do it. We're on the back

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Speaker 3: foot massively.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that ends up being a spiral because

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Speaker 2: it costs so much to do anything, so we don't

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Speaker 2: do anything, so productivity doesn't increase, so we can't afford

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Speaker 2: to do anything anymore. Yeah, that needs to be solved.

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Speaker 3: But I think when it comes to it, and I

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Speaker 3: get Bob's point, and he's quite right the infrastructure failings

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Speaker 3: of a lot of the country at the moment, I

612
00:28:46,053 --> 00:28:48,373
Speaker 3: get that's a big problem, and they are looking at

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Speaker 3: how to fund that over the next fifty years, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing. But in the initial term,

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Speaker 3: to bring something like the America's cut back home, which

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Speaker 3: we once upon a time we're really proud of, that

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Speaker 3: is a worthwhile investment to me in the short term.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people won't agree with that, but that's

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Speaker 3: my take on it. That is a worthwhile investment.

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Speaker 2: When a bridge costs as much as it does to fix,

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Speaker 2: we can look at and see that it's not a

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Speaker 2: huge thing. It does go up and down. It's impressive,

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Speaker 2: it is fun. Do we need to do some public

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Speaker 2: shaming song on people that are involved and how much

625
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Speaker 2: it's going to cost, and look at every every aspect

626
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Speaker 2: backed of it and apply some shame all the way through.

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Speaker 2: Because we should be able to fix a bridge like that.

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00:29:27,013 --> 00:29:29,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, are we talking about shaming the bridges specifically or

629
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Speaker 3: the people that build them? Will run that past legal

630
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Speaker 3: and everyone shame everyone.

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Speaker 2: Bring out the stocks, get the tomatoes.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call. It's twenty to two.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

635
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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: US Talk said, be welcome back into the show, seventeen

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Matt. Your thoughts on the America's Cup.

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Speaker 3: Oh that'll be you, Marlin?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Marlon, all right, okay, sorry, get o'marlon, get a

642
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Speaker 2: Marlon your thoughts in the America's Cup.

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Speaker 19: On, Matt, I get really well, I'm up about this.

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Speaker 19: I so I'll try and be really brief. I'm just

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Speaker 19: a simple family photographer here in Auckland, New Zealand, and

646
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Speaker 19: twenty four years ago thanks to Sir Peter Blake sailing

647
00:30:23,973 --> 00:30:28,693
Speaker 19: families needed family photographs and somehow or other they gone

648
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Speaker 19: on to me that led to me getting on board

649
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Speaker 19: souper yachts around the world for the last twenty four years.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 19: So I can't give you a figure, but it's millions

652
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Speaker 19: of dollars. I've built a house, I've employed seven people

653
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Speaker 19: nearly at one point.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

655
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Speaker 19: Some of these projects were massive amounts of money and

656
00:30:49,693 --> 00:30:52,813
Speaker 19: I'm still doing it. I should be retiring, I guess.

657
00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:55,613
Speaker 19: But what I'm trying to say is the trickle down.

658
00:30:57,053 --> 00:30:57,773
Speaker 13: It's immense.

659
00:30:58,653 --> 00:31:01,493
Speaker 19: So people just see the big yachts and the money,

660
00:31:01,533 --> 00:31:03,933
Speaker 19: I guess, but these are real families that sit on

661
00:31:04,013 --> 00:31:07,773
Speaker 19: these yachts, of real children. They love coming to New Zealand,

662
00:31:07,853 --> 00:31:13,133
Speaker 19: they love bringing their friends, and they do it and

663
00:31:13,173 --> 00:31:15,213
Speaker 19: again and again and again. And one of the principal

664
00:31:15,253 --> 00:31:18,893
Speaker 19: syndicate owners is still one of my most loyal clients.

665
00:31:19,653 --> 00:31:23,933
Speaker 2: So Malan, you're traveling around and doing family portrait still

666
00:31:23,973 --> 00:31:26,173
Speaker 2: for these people that came down here all those years ago.

667
00:31:27,653 --> 00:31:30,893
Speaker 19: But they take me off to wherever they are, you know,

668
00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:33,933
Speaker 19: the Hoday homes in France, their places in America, their

669
00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:34,813
Speaker 19: places in England.

670
00:31:34,973 --> 00:31:35,613
Speaker 2: We must be good.

671
00:31:37,173 --> 00:31:40,493
Speaker 19: No, well that's what people say. But you know, maybe

672
00:31:40,533 --> 00:31:41,733
Speaker 19: I just tell a good joke.

673
00:31:41,573 --> 00:31:44,173
Speaker 2: Now, good experience.

674
00:31:44,173 --> 00:31:46,373
Speaker 19: I don't look at the wealth. Maybe I'll just look

675
00:31:46,373 --> 00:31:48,413
Speaker 19: at the people, and you know, how do I connect

676
00:31:48,453 --> 00:31:50,293
Speaker 19: with these people. How do we have fun? You said

677
00:31:50,853 --> 00:31:54,013
Speaker 19: about fun, And while I've been sitting here waiting, imagine

678
00:31:54,053 --> 00:31:56,493
Speaker 19: post COVID if we had had that yacht race down

679
00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:59,773
Speaker 19: here right now. Yeah, I mean that it's a massive

680
00:31:59,853 --> 00:32:03,213
Speaker 19: boost and what my point is to trickle down and

681
00:32:03,253 --> 00:32:06,933
Speaker 19: my little family is massive and it still goes on

682
00:32:07,013 --> 00:32:08,693
Speaker 19: and people say, well, how did you get all these

683
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 19: clients around the world. It was Pete and Blake, it

684
00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:12,853
Speaker 19: was Russell Coots, was an America's Cup.

685
00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:16,093
Speaker 2: You jumped on an opportunity. And I certainly haven't heard

686
00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:21,373
Speaker 2: of the portraits offshoots of the America's Cup. That's that's

687
00:32:21,453 --> 00:32:25,813
Speaker 2: really really interesting. And so you've employed seven people on

688
00:32:25,893 --> 00:32:27,933
Speaker 2: the back of this. This has made your business grow

689
00:32:29,173 --> 00:32:30,013
Speaker 2: before COVID.

690
00:32:30,093 --> 00:32:32,173
Speaker 13: I I had to because.

691
00:32:33,573 --> 00:32:36,133
Speaker 19: You know, with my fellow photographs here in New Zealand,

692
00:32:36,173 --> 00:32:38,293
Speaker 19: if I start telling them about what I do, they

693
00:32:38,413 --> 00:32:39,093
Speaker 19: just close over.

694
00:32:39,173 --> 00:32:39,973
Speaker 13: They don't believe it.

695
00:32:40,013 --> 00:32:44,493
Speaker 19: So I don't sorry, but you know, I've just come

696
00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:47,413
Speaker 19: back from America. But of course, one family leads to another,

697
00:32:47,493 --> 00:32:49,293
Speaker 19: to a needs to another, and all you have to

698
00:32:49,293 --> 00:32:51,413
Speaker 19: do is do a good job. And in terms of

699
00:32:51,453 --> 00:32:53,733
Speaker 19: America's Cup, we are doing a good job.

700
00:32:54,013 --> 00:32:55,013
Speaker 2: I think we've wanted.

701
00:32:54,813 --> 00:33:03,933
Speaker 3: Again, who's the most photogenic? Who's the most photogenic? Bair

702
00:33:04,733 --> 00:33:08,093
Speaker 3: good looking fella. Yeah, they are all photogenic. Good dance,

703
00:33:08,373 --> 00:33:12,773
Speaker 3: good tans on the sailors, Marlin. Thank you very much, mate,

704
00:33:12,813 --> 00:33:15,493
Speaker 3: really nice to chat Matt. We got you now, mate.

705
00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:16,973
Speaker 3: How are you did?

706
00:33:17,053 --> 00:33:20,293
Speaker 20: A good good long time text the first time callers

707
00:33:21,893 --> 00:33:23,773
Speaker 20: enjoying the show too with you guys on there.

708
00:33:24,133 --> 00:33:25,133
Speaker 3: Thank you.

709
00:33:25,453 --> 00:33:25,973
Speaker 6: Yeah.

710
00:33:26,093 --> 00:33:30,853
Speaker 20: However, but swingling number of keywiks, you guys have lost

711
00:33:30,893 --> 00:33:34,493
Speaker 20: your minds over the America and all sense of perspective.

712
00:33:36,573 --> 00:33:40,573
Speaker 20: To an extent, Sue took the wind out of the

713
00:33:40,653 --> 00:33:42,693
Speaker 20: sales a bit because she nailed it with a lot

714
00:33:42,693 --> 00:33:46,133
Speaker 20: of what she said. In terms of the sporting event.

715
00:33:46,293 --> 00:33:49,893
Speaker 20: On a global level, the America's Cup just doesn't rate.

716
00:33:50,093 --> 00:33:52,493
Speaker 20: I mean, I did a bit of research this morning

717
00:33:52,533 --> 00:33:56,533
Speaker 20: to see who was talking about it, and you know,

718
00:33:56,613 --> 00:33:58,933
Speaker 20: the New Zealand media was. But apart from that, there's

719
00:33:58,973 --> 00:34:04,533
Speaker 20: a couple of like specialists yachting, online magazines and stuff,

720
00:34:04,533 --> 00:34:06,653
Speaker 20: but no one else, no one else cares about.

721
00:34:06,453 --> 00:34:10,173
Speaker 2: It EVENTTT would you agree, though, with the right event

722
00:34:11,172 --> 00:34:13,293
Speaker 2: that there is something to be said to be spending

723
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:16,093
Speaker 2: money even if it doesn't make money. Even if that

724
00:34:16,093 --> 00:34:18,773
Speaker 2: when New Zealand gets together and feels great, and that

725
00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:22,293
Speaker 2: helps productivity because we start feeling better about ourselves and

726
00:34:22,293 --> 00:34:24,613
Speaker 2: we start doing more stuff for our country across the board,

727
00:34:24,773 --> 00:34:27,212
Speaker 2: and we start loving our fellow man and woman more.

728
00:34:28,173 --> 00:34:31,773
Speaker 20: Absolutely, man, I'm also bringing really good quality, big events

729
00:34:31,853 --> 00:34:33,813
Speaker 20: here and for all those reasons you said, But the

730
00:34:33,853 --> 00:34:36,933
Speaker 20: America's Cup, isn't it? I reckon if we took a

731
00:34:37,053 --> 00:34:41,533
Speaker 20: true dispassionate look at the business case for the America's

732
00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:47,613
Speaker 20: Cup across apart from maybe the first campaign, you know,

733
00:34:48,373 --> 00:34:50,413
Speaker 20: I just think it's a net loss for us. You know,

734
00:34:50,853 --> 00:34:53,853
Speaker 20: the last Cup was at least two hundred million bucks

735
00:34:53,853 --> 00:34:58,013
Speaker 20: between taxpayer and ratepayer money that went into it. There

736
00:34:58,053 --> 00:35:00,613
Speaker 20: was a scizzor you know, it happened during COVID as well.

737
00:35:00,693 --> 00:35:03,133
Speaker 20: In literally that doesn't help when people start talking about

738
00:35:03,973 --> 00:35:06,613
Speaker 20: trickle down effects of spending, you know then that the

739
00:35:06,653 --> 00:35:08,333
Speaker 20: business case is pretty shape.

740
00:35:10,373 --> 00:35:13,252
Speaker 2: What about Marlon? Though Marlon, Marlon has traveled the world,

741
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:14,413
Speaker 2: he's been taking.

742
00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:18,133
Speaker 20: You can draw a long bow on a lot of

743
00:35:18,173 --> 00:35:20,933
Speaker 20: things that what I would say is what other sport

744
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:24,253
Speaker 20: in this country has had the sort of money that

745
00:35:24,853 --> 00:35:26,573
Speaker 20: the America's Cat has had spent on it.

746
00:35:27,653 --> 00:35:29,733
Speaker 2: I would push back a little bit on the idea

747
00:35:29,853 --> 00:35:33,133
Speaker 2: that yachting is just a rich man's sport, because there's

748
00:35:33,173 --> 00:35:35,973
Speaker 2: a lot of people out in the water and trailer sailors,

749
00:35:36,653 --> 00:35:40,133
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that do experience yachting, and

750
00:35:40,133 --> 00:35:41,773
Speaker 2: and we have a lot of coastline. And I know

751
00:35:41,853 --> 00:35:43,453
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up rich, but we'd be out on

752
00:35:43,493 --> 00:35:44,813
Speaker 2: a boat in the weekends.

753
00:35:45,493 --> 00:35:47,813
Speaker 3: But I mean, I used to think a little bit

754
00:35:47,973 --> 00:35:49,853
Speaker 3: like that. Not quite it was a rich man's sport,

755
00:35:49,853 --> 00:35:51,973
Speaker 3: but I thought it was a bit a bit elite

756
00:35:52,013 --> 00:35:54,773
Speaker 3: for my taste. But when it was last here, I

757
00:35:54,813 --> 00:35:57,173
Speaker 3: got into it. I felt the excitement of the of

758
00:35:57,293 --> 00:35:59,453
Speaker 3: most of the nation. I don't know, not everyone did,

759
00:35:59,493 --> 00:36:01,853
Speaker 3: but I did, and that to me is worth having

760
00:36:01,893 --> 00:36:03,133
Speaker 3: an event of that scale here.

761
00:36:04,093 --> 00:36:06,652
Speaker 20: Hey, look, yachting as a as a sport and as

762
00:36:06,693 --> 00:36:09,893
Speaker 20: a pastime and as a a genuine skill is a

763
00:36:09,893 --> 00:36:12,213
Speaker 20: great thing. And what I'd like to know is with

764
00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:15,053
Speaker 20: all the public money that was throwing at these pirates,

765
00:36:15,093 --> 00:36:18,253
Speaker 20: sorry to New Zealand, I'd like to know, you know,

766
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:21,813
Speaker 20: did the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron or teen New

767
00:36:21,933 --> 00:36:25,493
Speaker 20: Zealand ever get into the working class schools of West

768
00:36:25,533 --> 00:36:30,453
Speaker 20: Auckland and South Aukland and teach those skills to you know,

769
00:36:30,573 --> 00:36:33,093
Speaker 20: young high school students. Was anything like that ever done

770
00:36:33,213 --> 00:36:36,773
Speaker 20: or has it just been a take take from the

771
00:36:36,813 --> 00:36:39,133
Speaker 20: yachting community when it comes to the America's Cup.

772
00:36:39,253 --> 00:36:42,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the Optimist outreach program was

773
00:36:42,253 --> 00:36:44,893
Speaker 2: into South Auckland. I'm gonna I'm going to do some

774
00:36:44,933 --> 00:36:46,692
Speaker 2: research on I'm going to hazard a guess and say

775
00:36:47,493 --> 00:36:51,133
Speaker 2: a huge post in that area. Matt thank you, very

776
00:36:51,173 --> 00:36:52,133
Speaker 2: appreciate your call mate.

777
00:36:52,173 --> 00:36:54,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, cheers man. Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

778
00:36:55,173 --> 00:36:56,773
Speaker 3: It is ten to two back.

779
00:36:56,613 --> 00:36:56,933
Speaker 15: In a month.

780
00:36:59,053 --> 00:37:05,693
Speaker 1: Mattie's Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight Tyler Adams Afternoons,

781
00:37:05,853 --> 00:37:10,453
Speaker 1: News Dogs.

782
00:37:08,453 --> 00:37:10,013
Speaker 3: Talk Zed be good afternoon to you.

783
00:37:10,493 --> 00:37:12,453
Speaker 2: Has a text on nine and two times two Hey, guys.

784
00:37:12,493 --> 00:37:14,533
Speaker 2: Helen Clark wants the America's Cup to come back here,

785
00:37:14,653 --> 00:37:16,613
Speaker 2: yet she doesn't want concerts at Eden Park. That's what

786
00:37:16,653 --> 00:37:18,293
Speaker 2: I was thinking of morning, because I live around Eden

787
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:21,453
Speaker 2: Park and she's been a big detractor from bringing music

788
00:37:21,493 --> 00:37:25,573
Speaker 2: into Eden Park against the wishes of the residents in

789
00:37:25,613 --> 00:37:28,613
Speaker 2: the area. I've never met, I've lived around Eden Park

790
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:30,772
Speaker 2: for twenty years and I've never met someone that didn't

791
00:37:30,773 --> 00:37:33,453
Speaker 2: want the concerts there. But Helen Clark, she's in there.

792
00:37:33,533 --> 00:37:38,893
Speaker 2: She's all very excited about some boats down the other

793
00:37:38,973 --> 00:37:43,213
Speaker 2: end of town, but no joy, no concerts at Eden Park.

794
00:37:43,253 --> 00:37:46,573
Speaker 2: And she hates the fun and the sounds of people

795
00:37:46,613 --> 00:37:49,253
Speaker 2: singing along to the arts, really, because that's what music is.

796
00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:50,213
Speaker 2: Music is the arts.

797
00:37:50,253 --> 00:37:53,133
Speaker 3: Helen Clark is a massive nimbi. Not in my backyard,

798
00:37:53,293 --> 00:37:54,613
Speaker 3: huge nimbi.

799
00:37:54,853 --> 00:37:56,172
Speaker 2: I don't think she lives there very much.

800
00:37:56,733 --> 00:37:59,613
Speaker 3: Craig, how are you mate?

801
00:38:00,133 --> 00:38:04,573
Speaker 21: If you want a party and a flary, Yeah, people

802
00:38:04,613 --> 00:38:07,853
Speaker 21: of Auckland and New Zealand and MAT's Field good, you

803
00:38:08,013 --> 00:38:10,213
Speaker 21: give them one hundred million of taxpayer money.

804
00:38:10,573 --> 00:38:12,413
Speaker 22: But if you want to spend one hundred million to

805
00:38:12,493 --> 00:38:14,813
Speaker 22: make money, you'd be better off split in it between

806
00:38:15,013 --> 00:38:17,813
Speaker 22: our motivating guys, Liam Lawson and that kind of thing

807
00:38:18,293 --> 00:38:20,453
Speaker 22: and getting the New Zealand put on their cards. They

808
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:22,813
Speaker 22: go to a much wider.

809
00:38:25,093 --> 00:38:28,933
Speaker 2: A big, a big New Zealand flag on Liam Lawson's

810
00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:32,093
Speaker 2: car would be would actually be a pretty good Do.

811
00:38:32,173 --> 00:38:35,413
Speaker 22: You imagine Liam Lawson, Scott Dixon, the you know, all

812
00:38:35,413 --> 00:38:38,373
Speaker 22: the New Zealand on their car as a sponsor that

813
00:38:38,453 --> 00:38:40,813
Speaker 22: would be ben for back over the America's Cup.

814
00:38:42,213 --> 00:38:44,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not going to get your fund down

815
00:38:44,093 --> 00:38:45,573
Speaker 2: here are we. We're not going to be able to

816
00:38:45,613 --> 00:38:47,613
Speaker 2: have the party face to face down here are we.

817
00:38:47,733 --> 00:38:49,613
Speaker 22: When we're not and we're not going to get the

818
00:38:49,613 --> 00:38:50,732
Speaker 22: America's cut back here.

819
00:38:52,213 --> 00:38:54,573
Speaker 2: I actually think you're right. I think you're right in that, Craig.

820
00:38:54,613 --> 00:38:57,013
Speaker 2: I mean what we're talking about here is it's exciting

821
00:38:57,133 --> 00:38:59,013
Speaker 2: the idea of it and should we supported. But just

822
00:38:59,053 --> 00:39:01,093
Speaker 2: the way Grand Older was talking, you could tell that

823
00:39:01,093 --> 00:39:02,933
Speaker 2: it's not even on the it's not even on the

824
00:39:03,013 --> 00:39:05,212
Speaker 2: on the on the cards. And also you're not going

825
00:39:05,213 --> 00:39:06,933
Speaker 2: to get across the line here because as soon as

826
00:39:06,973 --> 00:39:08,693
Speaker 2: you put up your hand and say you want to hear,

827
00:39:08,773 --> 00:39:11,493
Speaker 2: someone's going to go. If the central government gives the money,

828
00:39:11,733 --> 00:39:15,172
Speaker 2: Dunedin Hospital, if anything in Auckland going to give the money,

829
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:16,973
Speaker 2: then someone's going to bring up something else that we're

830
00:39:16,973 --> 00:39:17,333
Speaker 2: not doing.

831
00:39:17,413 --> 00:39:19,253
Speaker 3: It's always been a hard sell in New Zealand, even

832
00:39:19,253 --> 00:39:22,213
Speaker 3: at the best of times. John, We've got about ninety seconds.

833
00:39:22,773 --> 00:39:25,093
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, thanks mate. Our first thing is going to

834
00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:27,773
Speaker 13: reduce the costs so americas Cap would be scaled and

835
00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:30,573
Speaker 13: p part. It wouldn't matter, you know, bring the boat,

836
00:39:30,773 --> 00:39:33,853
Speaker 13: go back to kill boats and reduce the cost like

837
00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:41,493
Speaker 13: one you know, is a great, very spectacle, but way

838
00:39:41,533 --> 00:39:44,613
Speaker 13: way too expensive. And in the Formula one they even

839
00:39:44,693 --> 00:39:46,893
Speaker 13: talk all the technology out of the Formula one cat.

840
00:39:47,213 --> 00:39:48,053
Speaker 13: We've got to do the same.

841
00:39:48,093 --> 00:39:49,453
Speaker 2: But well we've got so I tell you what. We've

842
00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:52,133
Speaker 2: got the sale GP that operates in that area, and

843
00:39:52,133 --> 00:39:55,652
Speaker 2: and that is a fantastic spectacle. Went to it event

844
00:39:55,733 --> 00:39:59,292
Speaker 2: went along in Littleton once a dolphin stopped pissing around

845
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:02,373
Speaker 2: and ruining everyone's fun. It was a great event. And

846
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:04,813
Speaker 2: and and in Auckland that's going to be phenomenal to

847
00:40:04,853 --> 00:40:05,373
Speaker 2: sale GP.

848
00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:10,573
Speaker 13: Dalton's all about money. So reduce the cost and double

849
00:40:10,613 --> 00:40:12,533
Speaker 13: the amount of boats we got so we got sacked.

850
00:40:13,013 --> 00:40:15,653
Speaker 13: We need twelve, you know, but and you make it

851
00:40:15,733 --> 00:40:18,252
Speaker 13: attractive for them to come in smaller boats. But I've

852
00:40:18,373 --> 00:40:20,733
Speaker 13: another one. I would if you're going to give money

853
00:40:20,733 --> 00:40:25,453
Speaker 13: to America's Cup, we start another team competition Dulton.

854
00:40:26,013 --> 00:40:31,053
Speaker 3: Oh sheep is controversial. Yep. Who's going to sail it?

855
00:40:31,093 --> 00:40:31,253
Speaker 23: Though?

856
00:40:31,253 --> 00:40:33,093
Speaker 3: Are we going to post some of his best?

857
00:40:34,173 --> 00:40:37,573
Speaker 13: We've got ten dozen sailors around this country. I believe

858
00:40:37,613 --> 00:40:40,853
Speaker 13: that that could sail it. Yeah, no problem, all right, John.

859
00:40:40,733 --> 00:40:42,853
Speaker 2: Let's take it all the way back to those huge

860
00:40:42,853 --> 00:40:45,533
Speaker 2: sailing ships they first sailed in eighteen fifty one.

861
00:40:45,613 --> 00:40:48,013
Speaker 3: I like the endeavor. Get the endeavor on the water.

862
00:40:48,293 --> 00:40:48,853
Speaker 3: That'd be good.

863
00:40:48,853 --> 00:40:49,013
Speaker 9: One.

864
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:51,053
Speaker 2: You have to sail it down here before you can race.

865
00:40:51,733 --> 00:40:54,093
Speaker 3: Very good and thank you, John, really appreciate your phone

866
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:57,093
Speaker 3: calling to everybody else who text and called. Coming up,

867
00:40:57,173 --> 00:40:59,333
Speaker 3: we're going to have a chat about ozempic, another weight

868
00:40:59,373 --> 00:41:02,293
Speaker 3: loss drug. Should we subsidize them in New Zealand. Oh,

869
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,253
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

870
00:41:04,333 --> 00:41:05,733
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text.

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Speaker 4: You're new for Insightful and Entertaining Talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattiath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk zebby

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Speaker 1: A very.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show. Matt

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Speaker 3: and Tyler with you until four pm. Thank you very

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Speaker 3: much for your company as always in great discussion about

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Speaker 3: the America's Cup. But we're going to change tech. No

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Speaker 3: pun intended for this new chance weight loss drugs. And

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Speaker 3: this is going to be good because, as a lot

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Speaker 3: of people know, ozempic has taken the world by storm.

881
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Speaker 3: It has well a lot of claims that it's a

882
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Speaker 3: bit of a miracle drug in terms of weight loss.

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Speaker 3: It's getting great results overseas. It's not available readily here

884
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Speaker 3: in New Zealand, but there are growing calls for it

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Speaker 3: to be made available here and even going a bit

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Speaker 3: further to subsidize the drug for those who are having

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Speaker 3: issues with obesity. So speaking to The Little Things podcast,

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Speaker 3: Jeremy kreb He is from the Utaga University of Otago

889
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Speaker 3: and he's the clinical leader of indo Chronology and diabetes.

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Speaker 3: He said that by tackling obesity, these drugs could have

891
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Speaker 3: an enormous benefit for society and save costs in the

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Speaker 3: long run. It is controversial, I mean a lot of

893
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Speaker 3: concern around these particular drugs is the idea of having

894
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Speaker 3: a shortcut, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the idea that you just have to take

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Speaker 2: pills for the rest of your life to stay thin

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Speaker 2: and healthy or not even thin. It seems like it

898
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Speaker 2: is taking a shortcut. But I guess the other side

899
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Speaker 2: of it is obesity is a major problem in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: One and three adult New Zealanders are obese and that

901
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Speaker 2: costs asked a lot. You only have to go into

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Speaker 2: a hospital and see how many people that are in

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Speaker 2: that hospital any given time are on the larger side.

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Speaker 2: Because it's terrible for every part of your every part

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Speaker 2: of your physiology. So the idea is that you subsidize this,

906
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Speaker 2: people get thinner and they get healthier and they cost less,

907
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Speaker 2: but you're going to keep on that for the rest

908
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Speaker 2: of their life. What are the long term effects? They

909
00:43:10,693 --> 00:43:12,853
Speaker 2: haven't been taking these drugs for a very long time,

910
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Speaker 2: and what happens when you come off it, because you

911
00:43:15,853 --> 00:43:18,093
Speaker 2: can just go right back up to where you were

912
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Speaker 2: before pretty quickly and ass you make the serious changes

913
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Speaker 2: in your life. So do we just cut out the

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Speaker 2: middleman and somehow conference one in three adults in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand to start exercising and eating healthy, eating whole foods

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Speaker 2: instead of junk food.

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Speaker 3: I'm torn on this. Where do use it? You think

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Speaker 3: it comes down to personal responsibility and we've got to

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Speaker 3: look after people if they get sick or they have diabetes,

920
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Speaker 3: or they have issues with obesity. But ideally, rather than

921
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Speaker 3: subsidizing a very expensive medicine, loo zenpac personal responsibility that

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Speaker 3: they need to talk after themselves.

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Speaker 2: Does the message need to be in New Zealand that

924
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Speaker 2: it's your job to stay healthy as opposed to the

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Speaker 2: country's job to fix you up when you're not healthy. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to leave people at the end when

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Speaker 2: they're in a terrible state. That would be cruel. But

928
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Speaker 2: is the message just wrong. Shouldn't the message be you

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Speaker 2: owe your country and your fellow taxpayers to stay in

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Speaker 2: a decent condition throughout your life so you don't become

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Speaker 2: a burden. That should be the emphasis on it. And look,

932
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Speaker 2: maybe this is another issue that if people are in

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Speaker 2: that state, then we help them with a quick, quick fix.

934
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Speaker 2: But that quick fix will only last so long, and

935
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Speaker 2: then at some point the education, the idea of looking

936
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Speaker 2: after yourself and taking personal responsible will come in. I've

937
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Speaker 2: got a very good mate who had his stomach stapled

938
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Speaker 2: and it's really worked for him. It changed his life.

939
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Speaker 2: He paid for it privately himself, but it changed his

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Speaker 2: life and he's kept the weight off and he's a

941
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Speaker 2: different He's a fantastic human being. He was before, he's

942
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Speaker 2: even more so now. So that can work. But the

943
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Speaker 2: idea of just taking a pill, well, either an injection

944
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Speaker 2: or a pill, for however long we subsidize it, I

945
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, it seems like it's going

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Speaker 2: to create more problems than it solves.

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Speaker 3: Here's why I'm torn on it because a big to

948
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Speaker 3: me believes exactly what you said there, that it is

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Speaker 3: a dangerous route to have, even if it is a

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Speaker 3: miracle drug to utilize. That is a bit of a shortcut,

951
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Speaker 3: and you can forget about the other aspects of your

952
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Speaker 3: life in terms of being healthy, so you don't have

953
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Speaker 3: to worry about going to the gym, you don't have

954
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Speaker 3: to worry about eating fruit and veg. You can just

955
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Speaker 3: have this little pillar or injection and you'll be fine

956
00:45:28,373 --> 00:45:31,013
Speaker 3: and the government will sort you out. But on the

957
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Speaker 3: opposite side of that debate, public health messaging just doesn't

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Speaker 3: get the cut through, never has for fifty years, Various

959
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Speaker 3: types of messaging from government about five plus a day,

960
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Speaker 3: about sport is essential and exercise is essential for living

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Speaker 3: a healthy life. And we're more obese than ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say we're more obese than ever because

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Speaker 2: we don't eat whole foods anymore. I mean, look at me,

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Speaker 2: Look at this, tyler. This is what I had today?

965
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Speaker 2: What did I have today?

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Speaker 3: You had a very healthy looking salad. It was a

967
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Speaker 3: little bit more vinigarette than I would recommend. But it

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Speaker 3: looked very nice, healthy.

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Speaker 2: It was boring, and it was really just trying to

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Speaker 2: make up for what I did across the weekend. But

971
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Speaker 2: that's really what you've got to do. You've got to

972
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Speaker 2: have it. It's whole foods and it's exercise. That's really

973
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Speaker 2: what will sort you out. And that's why people used

974
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Speaker 2: to be thinner in the sixties, seventies and eighties, because

975
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Speaker 2: people were having more dinners that were cocked at home

976
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Speaker 2: out of whole food and ingredients. And we work longer

977
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Speaker 2: hours now, sure, and junk food's more really available, and

978
00:46:35,413 --> 00:46:37,652
Speaker 2: you know, corn syrup is all through our food, and

979
00:46:37,653 --> 00:46:39,732
Speaker 2: the food's got worse and worse and worse. But that's

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Speaker 2: the only solution really for obesity. That's the only solution.

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Speaker 2: How you get there, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty

982
00:46:46,453 --> 00:46:49,573
Speaker 2: sure it's a metaphor for what you don't do is

983
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Speaker 2: just take a pill.

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Speaker 3: So it's a problem. But no, I see, And you're

985
00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:56,253
Speaker 3: quite right, ultra process food very difficult to escape. Now

986
00:46:56,293 --> 00:46:58,893
Speaker 3: you've got to work really hard at the supermarket. I

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00:46:58,973 --> 00:47:01,333
Speaker 3: get it fruit and veg. Yep, that's the easy part.

988
00:47:01,533 --> 00:47:05,893
Speaker 3: But in terms of wraps, all breads or pasta, incredibly

989
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:10,053
Speaker 3: difficult to know whether that is here processed ultra process

990
00:47:10,293 --> 00:47:12,973
Speaker 3: which makes you eat more versus the stuff that is

991
00:47:13,013 --> 00:47:15,573
Speaker 3: going to be better for you and hopefully maintain your weight.

992
00:47:15,693 --> 00:47:18,733
Speaker 3: That's a real tricky labyrinth for a lot of people

993
00:47:18,773 --> 00:47:24,133
Speaker 3: to navigate these days. But again, exercise and eating fruit

994
00:47:24,133 --> 00:47:26,652
Speaker 3: and vegs, that's been messaging that's been out in the

995
00:47:26,653 --> 00:47:27,692
Speaker 3: public for fifty years.

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00:47:27,773 --> 00:47:30,253
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I put it another way. With whatever the

997
00:47:30,253 --> 00:47:33,773
Speaker 2: messaging is, is it your moral obligation to your family

998
00:47:34,253 --> 00:47:38,252
Speaker 2: and to your country's stretched health resources to do what's

999
00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:42,733
Speaker 2: right and stay healthy, or is it the state's job

1000
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Speaker 2: and your family's job to sort you out and provide

1001
00:47:46,493 --> 00:47:47,253
Speaker 2: a pill.

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00:47:47,853 --> 00:47:50,093
Speaker 3: Just before we rot to the break? Though, Let's both

1003
00:47:50,093 --> 00:47:53,773
Speaker 3: answer that one. To me, yes, I've got that responsibility

1004
00:47:53,853 --> 00:47:56,733
Speaker 3: to my family and to my friends, but most importantly

1005
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Speaker 3: to myself. And it wasn't until I had about thirty

1006
00:47:59,253 --> 00:48:01,212
Speaker 3: five that I started to get that wake up call

1007
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Speaker 3: that I couldn't drink as much alcohol as I wanted

1008
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Speaker 3: to anymore because I was really battling. I can't eat

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00:48:07,333 --> 00:48:10,453
Speaker 3: KFC every week anymore because I'm starting to pot on

1010
00:48:10,493 --> 00:48:12,733
Speaker 3: the pounds and my blood pressure was going up and

1011
00:48:12,733 --> 00:48:15,573
Speaker 3: all those bad things. That just wasn't a worry when

1012
00:48:15,613 --> 00:48:17,373
Speaker 3: I was twenty, I could do whatever I want. Then

1013
00:48:17,413 --> 00:48:20,853
Speaker 3: finally boom, Okay I got to sort myself out here

1014
00:48:21,173 --> 00:48:22,853
Speaker 3: or else I'm going to have a stroke or have

1015
00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:24,733
Speaker 3: a heart attack way earlier than I should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how are you doing that?

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00:48:27,733 --> 00:48:27,933
Speaker 14: Ah?

1018
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Speaker 19: Yeah?

1019
00:48:29,693 --> 00:48:31,813
Speaker 2: Some days? But is that? But do you see my

1020
00:48:31,813 --> 00:48:33,493
Speaker 2: point as well? That's not only I'm not like you're

1021
00:48:33,493 --> 00:48:35,493
Speaker 2: saying the obligations to you, but why is the obligation

1022
00:48:35,613 --> 00:48:37,653
Speaker 2: to you? So you can continue to be a proactive

1023
00:48:37,653 --> 00:48:40,692
Speaker 2: member of society, so you can be around for your

1024
00:48:40,733 --> 00:48:41,133
Speaker 2: loved ones.

1025
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be a burden. But also

1026
00:48:43,493 --> 00:48:45,973
Speaker 3: I mean I don't want to die. Okay, that's a

1027
00:48:45,973 --> 00:48:46,693
Speaker 3: good motivator.

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00:48:46,853 --> 00:48:48,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so would you say that the same thing

1029
00:48:48,973 --> 00:48:53,133
Speaker 2: is getting healthy? If you got healthy by eating properly

1030
00:48:53,253 --> 00:48:57,093
Speaker 2: and exercising a little bit, or if you paid for

1031
00:48:57,133 --> 00:48:59,453
Speaker 2: your own pills and just sort it out like that,

1032
00:48:59,493 --> 00:49:01,732
Speaker 2: would that be the same result? Would you be happy

1033
00:49:01,773 --> 00:49:02,293
Speaker 2: with that result?

1034
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to have a miracle drug. I don't

1035
00:49:05,133 --> 00:49:09,853
Speaker 3: think you know. I'd want to expend all available avenues

1036
00:49:09,893 --> 00:49:11,733
Speaker 3: before I got to the point and saying you're going

1037
00:49:11,773 --> 00:49:13,333
Speaker 3: to have an ejection for the rest of your life

1038
00:49:13,373 --> 00:49:18,093
Speaker 3: because otherwise you're going to get diabetes anyway. Good discussion. Oh,

1039
00:49:18,213 --> 00:49:20,933
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty should we be subsidizing

1040
00:49:20,973 --> 00:49:23,053
Speaker 3: these drugs or is it a step too far? Keen

1041
00:49:23,093 --> 00:49:24,613
Speaker 3: to hear from you? Nine two nine two is the

1042
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Speaker 3: text number.

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Speaker 1: Your new home of Afternoon Talk and Heaton Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoon Call.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSZB seventeen past two.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the weight loss drug a zimpec and

1048
00:49:41,933 --> 00:49:45,933
Speaker 2: it's and it's variations. Textra on nine two says, you

1049
00:49:45,933 --> 00:49:48,933
Speaker 2: guys don't understand how weight loss medication works. Well, yeah,

1050
00:49:48,933 --> 00:49:51,933
Speaker 2: I do, actually respect yea. Yeah, Well look to it.

1051
00:49:51,933 --> 00:49:54,093
Speaker 2: We'ren't talking about it without looking into it. It works

1052
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Speaker 2: by looking naturally occurring hormones, and these hormones are telling

1053
00:49:59,573 --> 00:50:02,013
Speaker 2: your brain to eat, so it slows and it also

1054
00:50:02,093 --> 00:50:04,973
Speaker 2: slows your digestion. So this text is saying it can

1055
00:50:05,053 --> 00:50:08,413
Speaker 2: quiet food noises and the people's heads over eating. There

1056
00:50:08,453 --> 00:50:11,413
Speaker 2: is an addiction that people can't stop easily. Weight loss

1057
00:50:11,493 --> 00:50:14,293
Speaker 2: drugs help quiet in that food noise, allowing people to

1058
00:50:14,333 --> 00:50:16,453
Speaker 2: eat less. It also makes their body want to eat

1059
00:50:16,453 --> 00:50:19,133
Speaker 2: healthier foods, and their body naturally wants to eat more

1060
00:50:19,173 --> 00:50:22,293
Speaker 2: fruit and veggie whole foods. Is not a magic, it's

1061
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Speaker 2: just it's just to make it easier. It's another tool

1062
00:50:25,493 --> 00:50:27,973
Speaker 2: with weight loss kit along with exercise. But it's certainly

1063
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Speaker 2: not the magic that you think it is. I think

1064
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Speaker 2: you've misheard us. I was saying, I don't think it's magic.

1065
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Speaker 2: And I think that you take that pill for a

1066
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Speaker 2: while and then you'll eventually go off it and you'll

1067
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Speaker 2: be returned to wherever you were unless you sort out

1068
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Speaker 2: the fundamentals of good health.

1069
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill, what's your take on this?

1070
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Speaker 14: You know?

1071
00:50:46,173 --> 00:50:48,093
Speaker 10: I think, Yeah, I'm not sure you do know how

1072
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Speaker 10: this struggle actually works well really, because.

1073
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Speaker 2: I'm reading it off exactly. I'm reading it exactly off

1074
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Speaker 2: the the.

1075
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Speaker 9: Doctor Google.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, mate, how does it work?

1077
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Speaker 14: Bill?

1078
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Speaker 2: How does it work?

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Speaker 10: Well, you're right, and some of the stuff you're saying

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00:51:04,173 --> 00:51:06,772
Speaker 10: that I've just got off it for twelve months twelve

1081
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Speaker 10: months down yep, and and I've just got off it.

1082
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:14,973
Speaker 10: There's a lot of other things involved in this one

1083
00:51:15,013 --> 00:51:16,973
Speaker 10: that the drug does. Is it works on your pancreas.

1084
00:51:17,013 --> 00:51:20,013
Speaker 10: It wakes your pancreas up, which is part of the

1085
00:51:20,013 --> 00:51:24,133
Speaker 10: deal on processing sugars and fats. Pancreas works. If your

1086
00:51:24,133 --> 00:51:27,373
Speaker 10: pancres isn't working, probably then you're not going to process

1087
00:51:27,373 --> 00:51:28,173
Speaker 10: that stuff properly.

1088
00:51:29,053 --> 00:51:33,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you've been twenty months, Yeah, carry on, carry.

1089
00:51:33,133 --> 00:51:35,133
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was on after twelve months.

1090
00:51:36,213 --> 00:51:38,573
Speaker 2: How did how did it go for you? Bill?

1091
00:51:39,573 --> 00:51:39,812
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1092
00:51:39,813 --> 00:51:43,732
Speaker 10: Twenty three k off. But you're right in the fact

1093
00:51:43,773 --> 00:51:46,133
Speaker 10: that you've got to get your food right. So if

1094
00:51:46,173 --> 00:51:48,213
Speaker 10: you're doing if you're really sick, I think it should

1095
00:51:48,253 --> 00:51:51,053
Speaker 10: be it should be coming through your doctors. The part

1096
00:51:51,093 --> 00:51:53,613
Speaker 10: of the program has to be dieticians working with you

1097
00:51:53,693 --> 00:51:57,292
Speaker 10: and exercise people working with you. Or as you say,

1098
00:51:57,413 --> 00:51:57,812
Speaker 10: it's all.

1099
00:51:57,733 --> 00:51:58,413
Speaker 9: Going to come back on.

1100
00:51:58,653 --> 00:52:02,013
Speaker 2: So Bill, you you started taking it was actually a

1101
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:02,933
Speaker 2: zempic that you were.

1102
00:52:02,813 --> 00:52:06,893
Speaker 10: Taking, Yeah, and myself once a week.

1103
00:52:06,933 --> 00:52:11,293
Speaker 2: And so you took it, and did you lose the

1104
00:52:11,373 --> 00:52:15,213
Speaker 2: desire to have as much food? Did it suppress your diet?

1105
00:52:15,253 --> 00:52:16,733
Speaker 2: That's the primary way it worked for you.

1106
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:23,533
Speaker 10: Well, because I was working with dieticians and with exercise people.

1107
00:52:24,013 --> 00:52:27,213
Speaker 10: I'm not sure if you know if that's what stopped

1108
00:52:27,253 --> 00:52:29,613
Speaker 10: me eating as much as I was. I mean I

1109
00:52:29,693 --> 00:52:32,813
Speaker 10: was totally focused on what I was doing, which means

1110
00:52:32,853 --> 00:52:35,172
Speaker 10: I had to eat properly. It meant I had to

1111
00:52:35,213 --> 00:52:39,533
Speaker 10: exercise properly, and my reward was every month looking at

1112
00:52:39,973 --> 00:52:44,893
Speaker 10: the numbers through blood tests plummet, levels plummet, that sort

1113
00:52:44,933 --> 00:52:46,893
Speaker 10: of thing. But yeah, if you're just going to take

1114
00:52:46,933 --> 00:52:49,773
Speaker 10: it just as empic and off you go and you're

1115
00:52:49,773 --> 00:52:51,973
Speaker 10: going to do it, you might get them early. But

1116
00:52:52,133 --> 00:52:54,652
Speaker 10: unless you do some other changes, just like anything else,

1117
00:52:54,693 --> 00:52:58,933
Speaker 10: weight watches or Jenny Craig, I guess if you know

1118
00:52:59,213 --> 00:53:02,133
Speaker 10: so on that strength alone, I think it should only

1119
00:53:02,173 --> 00:53:05,333
Speaker 10: be through doctors. Through the doctors, and you need to

1120
00:53:05,373 --> 00:53:07,413
Speaker 10: go do the whole program or else.

1121
00:53:09,053 --> 00:53:09,292
Speaker 20: Money.

1122
00:53:09,373 --> 00:53:10,613
Speaker 2: So, Bill, how long have you been off it?

1123
00:53:10,653 --> 00:53:10,693
Speaker 4: For?

1124
00:53:12,733 --> 00:53:14,413
Speaker 10: Been off it now since February?

1125
00:53:14,973 --> 00:53:18,013
Speaker 2: And did you did you did your hunger come back?

1126
00:53:18,093 --> 00:53:20,973
Speaker 2: Did you? Or or had you recalibrated to the point

1127
00:53:21,013 --> 00:53:24,813
Speaker 2: where you now are staying with the diets that you

1128
00:53:24,933 --> 00:53:25,613
Speaker 2: that you wanted to.

1129
00:53:27,053 --> 00:53:27,292
Speaker 13: Mate.

1130
00:53:27,333 --> 00:53:31,453
Speaker 10: Look, cavec will always be sneaking around whispering in your ear.

1131
00:53:31,453 --> 00:53:32,493
Speaker 10: It is no doubt about that.

1132
00:53:32,573 --> 00:53:34,613
Speaker 3: It always does, Bill always does here.

1133
00:53:35,373 --> 00:53:38,533
Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know it just comes down there again,

1134
00:53:38,573 --> 00:53:39,973
Speaker 10: how much you wanted it.

1135
00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:42,292
Speaker 2: Sounds like, Bill, though, it sounds like you've got taken

1136
00:53:42,333 --> 00:53:44,493
Speaker 2: the right approach to it, where you've looked at it

1137
00:53:44,533 --> 00:53:46,732
Speaker 2: as a way to solve a problem, but you've also

1138
00:53:46,853 --> 00:53:50,373
Speaker 2: done the work around it and you've approached it not

1139
00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:54,533
Speaker 2: as a magic pill. So is that so? Really what

1140
00:53:54,573 --> 00:53:57,373
Speaker 2: you're saying is it'll it will help, but you still

1141
00:53:57,413 --> 00:54:01,613
Speaker 2: have to bring in the willpower that you have to

1142
00:54:01,613 --> 00:54:03,812
Speaker 2: bring in quite a lot of willpower to make it work.

1143
00:54:04,653 --> 00:54:06,773
Speaker 10: Look, if you've got a really big guy who's you know,

1144
00:54:06,813 --> 00:54:10,293
Speaker 10: one hundred and ninety cis KOs, he's not going to

1145
00:54:10,333 --> 00:54:12,173
Speaker 10: live long unless he does something drastic.

1146
00:54:12,253 --> 00:54:14,213
Speaker 4: Now, what this will do is it will.

1147
00:54:14,053 --> 00:54:16,453
Speaker 10: Help get it off quickly, and it'll put him in

1148
00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:18,813
Speaker 10: a position where he can start working on it properly.

1149
00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:22,172
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so would you support it being subsidized by

1150
00:54:22,613 --> 00:54:23,493
Speaker 2: the government.

1151
00:54:24,053 --> 00:54:24,813
Speaker 10: For sick people?

1152
00:54:24,893 --> 00:54:25,093
Speaker 9: Yes?

1153
00:54:25,333 --> 00:54:25,533
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1154
00:54:25,613 --> 00:54:25,773
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1155
00:54:25,853 --> 00:54:28,573
Speaker 3: How did you get on it, Bill, because I understood

1156
00:54:28,573 --> 00:54:31,093
Speaker 3: it wasn't readily available here that was through your doctor

1157
00:54:31,173 --> 00:54:32,893
Speaker 3: had to be prescribed and you had to jump through

1158
00:54:32,893 --> 00:54:38,133
Speaker 3: some hoops. Yeah overseas, mate, Right, okay, right, see what

1159
00:54:38,173 --> 00:54:41,133
Speaker 3: to worry about, Biller. And this is just from that

1160
00:54:41,253 --> 00:54:45,053
Speaker 3: the public relation side of ozempic. It's it's made a

1161
00:54:45,053 --> 00:54:47,533
Speaker 3: lot of noise over the past two years. As you're

1162
00:54:47,613 --> 00:54:50,733
Speaker 3: well known, and when you see it presented in articles

1163
00:54:50,813 --> 00:54:55,453
Speaker 3: or overseas celebrities Oprah for example, it is presented as

1164
00:54:55,653 --> 00:54:57,613
Speaker 3: a bit of a silver bullet that this is something

1165
00:54:57,653 --> 00:54:59,732
Speaker 3: that has never been seen before and all you've got

1166
00:54:59,733 --> 00:55:01,853
Speaker 3: to do is get injected with this drug and you're

1167
00:55:01,893 --> 00:55:03,973
Speaker 3: going to lose weight and you don't really need to

1168
00:55:04,013 --> 00:55:07,493
Speaker 3: do too much more. That is dangerous messaging, right.

1169
00:55:08,373 --> 00:55:10,773
Speaker 10: Yeah, very very dangerous because it's not true.

1170
00:55:11,133 --> 00:55:12,813
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not true.

1171
00:55:12,933 --> 00:55:15,253
Speaker 10: You're gonna work, You've got to do some work. And

1172
00:55:15,733 --> 00:55:18,013
Speaker 10: you know, if you're a really big guy, hunter ady kilos,

1173
00:55:18,493 --> 00:55:20,133
Speaker 10: you're told this can help you. You're going to have

1174
00:55:20,173 --> 00:55:22,293
Speaker 10: to do this and do this or you're going to die.

1175
00:55:22,373 --> 00:55:24,213
Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Bill for doing something about it.

1176
00:55:24,213 --> 00:55:26,333
Speaker 2: And it sounds like you've got your head right as well.

1177
00:55:26,413 --> 00:55:29,173
Speaker 2: So congratulations on that and all all the best with

1178
00:55:29,213 --> 00:55:29,853
Speaker 2: that going forward.

1179
00:55:29,933 --> 00:55:32,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Bill. I gotta get to the break.

1180
00:55:33,013 --> 00:55:34,493
Speaker 3: It is twenty three past two.

1181
00:55:38,973 --> 00:55:42,693
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty

1182
00:55:42,733 --> 00:55:45,493
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk said be good afternoon.

1183
00:55:45,533 --> 00:55:47,973
Speaker 3: It's twenty six past too. So on the line is

1184
00:55:48,013 --> 00:55:51,293
Speaker 3: doctor Richard Barber. He is a buriatric specialist. He is

1185
00:55:51,413 --> 00:55:55,973
Speaker 3: very renowned in this country and he has given us

1186
00:55:55,973 --> 00:55:57,693
Speaker 3: a bit of his time. Good a doctor Barber.

1187
00:55:58,653 --> 00:56:01,652
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, thank you for talking to us today. So

1188
00:56:01,893 --> 00:56:04,933
Speaker 2: just just to make it succinct for everyone listening, how

1189
00:56:05,013 --> 00:56:08,692
Speaker 2: exactly does a zimpec and the like work.

1190
00:56:10,533 --> 00:56:14,692
Speaker 12: Well, they are GLP one receptor antagonists. They work on

1191
00:56:15,453 --> 00:56:22,172
Speaker 12: the receptors that help the pancreas release insulin and it's

1192
00:56:22,213 --> 00:56:24,493
Speaker 12: quite They good for diabetes, and they also work on

1193
00:56:24,573 --> 00:56:28,613
Speaker 12: other receptors in the brain and the liver which keep

1194
00:56:28,653 --> 00:56:33,973
Speaker 12: our blood sugars down and helps to contrain control appetite

1195
00:56:34,573 --> 00:56:37,573
Speaker 12: and the sensation of feeling full.

1196
00:56:37,653 --> 00:56:40,573
Speaker 2: Richard, how much is it a magic pearl? And you know,

1197
00:56:40,613 --> 00:56:43,133
Speaker 2: you say it makes you feel full full, but it

1198
00:56:43,133 --> 00:56:45,453
Speaker 2: also has a sort of a physiological effect in terms

1199
00:56:45,493 --> 00:56:48,613
Speaker 2: of how you're processing the food, in terms of digestionin

1200
00:56:48,693 --> 00:56:51,133
Speaker 2: But how much does a person have to bring willpower

1201
00:56:51,133 --> 00:56:51,772
Speaker 2: to it as well?

1202
00:56:53,173 --> 00:56:57,173
Speaker 12: Well, you know it's funny that you use that expression

1203
00:56:57,253 --> 00:56:59,893
Speaker 12: the magic because it's not a pill, it's an injection.

1204
00:57:00,093 --> 00:57:01,733
Speaker 12: So that's a big difference.

1205
00:57:01,613 --> 00:57:04,253
Speaker 2: But there are forms of it that do come as

1206
00:57:04,293 --> 00:57:05,133
Speaker 2: a po yeah.

1207
00:57:05,173 --> 00:57:07,253
Speaker 12: Sure, and there will be forms of it that do

1208
00:57:07,413 --> 00:57:11,293
Speaker 12: come in and oral formation. But it is important to

1209
00:57:12,613 --> 00:57:15,652
Speaker 12: be clear about that because taking a pill is one thing,

1210
00:57:15,653 --> 00:57:20,333
Speaker 12: and injecting yourself every day with saxender or lyric glue

1211
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:22,853
Speaker 12: tighter is the name of the drug, is quite a

1212
00:57:22,893 --> 00:57:25,973
Speaker 12: big thing, and that's one of the things that stops

1213
00:57:25,973 --> 00:57:28,613
Speaker 12: people doing it for long periods of time. They get

1214
00:57:28,653 --> 00:57:30,533
Speaker 12: sick of injecting themselves every week.

1215
00:57:32,173 --> 00:57:34,093
Speaker 3: Do you worry, sorry to jump in there, doctor Barber,

1216
00:57:34,093 --> 00:57:37,453
Speaker 3: do you worry that some of the public relations around

1217
00:57:38,253 --> 00:57:42,493
Speaker 3: particularly ozenpac does present it as some sort of miracle

1218
00:57:42,573 --> 00:57:46,013
Speaker 3: drug that you can take and you're not going to

1219
00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:48,533
Speaker 3: have to do any sort of exercise or eat healthy,

1220
00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:50,653
Speaker 3: and it's going to help you lose weight. Do you

1221
00:57:50,733 --> 00:57:53,453
Speaker 3: get that sense from the difference.

1222
00:57:53,613 --> 00:57:56,933
Speaker 12: I think it's overhyped and over sold, and there's a

1223
00:57:56,933 --> 00:58:01,453
Speaker 12: lot of kind of misinformation out there around it. I mean,

1224
00:58:01,453 --> 00:58:05,573
Speaker 12: there's no doubt that it's revolutionary new category of medicines.

1225
00:58:05,573 --> 00:58:09,853
Speaker 12: They're very effective. The zen itself is not that great

1226
00:58:09,893 --> 00:58:14,013
Speaker 12: at helping people lose weight. Patients only lose around fifteen

1227
00:58:14,413 --> 00:58:17,613
Speaker 12: perhaps at most twenty percent of their weight on average.

1228
00:58:18,053 --> 00:58:20,253
Speaker 12: There are newer drugs that are in the pipeline where

1229
00:58:20,253 --> 00:58:23,253
Speaker 12: perhaps they won't need to be injected, could be taken

1230
00:58:23,333 --> 00:58:26,733
Speaker 12: orally and have a similar effect and help patients lose

1231
00:58:26,773 --> 00:58:29,933
Speaker 12: even more weight and that will be even better. But

1232
00:58:30,693 --> 00:58:34,653
Speaker 12: you know they're not it's certainly not a magic pill

1233
00:58:34,733 --> 00:58:37,533
Speaker 12: in a solution. There's a recent study in the UK

1234
00:58:37,653 --> 00:58:40,493
Speaker 12: that showed that only about twenty percent of people who

1235
00:58:40,533 --> 00:58:43,053
Speaker 12: are started on sex cender are still taking it after

1236
00:58:43,133 --> 00:58:46,053
Speaker 12: a year, and they stop taking it because of side

1237
00:58:46,053 --> 00:58:49,133
Speaker 12: effects and they get and the cost is another big

1238
00:58:49,893 --> 00:58:54,493
Speaker 12: issue for patients in the UK, and they also don't

1239
00:58:55,933 --> 00:58:59,613
Speaker 12: they get sick of injecting themselves and they get side

1240
00:58:59,613 --> 00:59:01,333
Speaker 12: effects like nausea and vomiting.

1241
00:59:02,133 --> 00:59:03,773
Speaker 2: How much does it cost?

1242
00:59:04,893 --> 00:59:08,693
Speaker 12: How much does it cost in New Zealand. It's about

1243
00:59:08,733 --> 00:59:09,573
Speaker 12: five hundred.

1244
00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:12,813
Speaker 3: Dollars a month, right, right, so very expensive.

1245
00:59:13,293 --> 00:59:16,613
Speaker 12: Yeah, well yeah, beyond most people's ability to afford it.

1246
00:59:16,733 --> 00:59:21,493
Speaker 12: And then at the moment, these medications, it's well known

1247
00:59:21,573 --> 00:59:23,813
Speaker 12: that you take them and then as soon as you

1248
00:59:23,893 --> 00:59:26,413
Speaker 12: stop taking them and you regain weight. So it's not

1249
00:59:26,453 --> 00:59:29,093
Speaker 12: like you can just take it for a year lose

1250
00:59:29,133 --> 00:59:32,813
Speaker 12: ten kilos or twenty kilos and then stop and you're good.

1251
00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 12: You'll just regain that weight because your brain switches back

1252
00:59:36,333 --> 00:59:41,013
Speaker 12: on your appetite comes back. Can you start regaining weight

1253
00:59:41,053 --> 00:59:46,573
Speaker 12: almost immediately? For your question about what was the other

1254
00:59:46,653 --> 00:59:48,693
Speaker 12: question that you just well, what we've.

1255
00:59:48,573 --> 00:59:52,533
Speaker 3: Been chatting about is whether it should be subsidized in

1256
00:59:52,653 --> 00:59:55,573
Speaker 3: New Zealand, whether you know, on a cost benefit analysis

1257
00:59:55,653 --> 00:59:59,093
Speaker 3: argument that if you help people maintain a healthy rate

1258
00:59:59,133 --> 01:00:02,573
Speaker 3: early on before they get diabetes, that it might be

1259
01:00:02,613 --> 01:00:04,213
Speaker 3: worth while. Where do you sit on that side of

1260
01:00:04,253 --> 01:00:04,813
Speaker 3: that argument.

1261
01:00:05,973 --> 01:00:06,093
Speaker 14: Oh?

1262
01:00:06,413 --> 01:00:08,973
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's probably a good idea. People were

1263
01:00:09,053 --> 01:00:11,533
Speaker 12: talking about that all over the world. The NHS is

1264
01:00:11,573 --> 01:00:14,933
Speaker 12: looking at it. I think there's pretty soon healthcare you know,

1265
01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:17,733
Speaker 12: insurers and providers in the United States are probably going

1266
01:00:17,813 --> 01:00:20,973
Speaker 12: to do it because they probably will save the money.

1267
01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:24,333
Speaker 12: Having said that, these are things sort of that have

1268
01:00:24,453 --> 01:00:28,773
Speaker 12: extrapolated from other data in terms of you know, like

1269
01:00:28,813 --> 01:00:31,773
Speaker 12: no one's proven that it saves money, but in fact,

1270
01:00:31,813 --> 01:00:36,533
Speaker 12: bariatric surger around absolute there's a shameless plug. There's absolutely

1271
01:00:36,653 --> 01:00:39,453
Speaker 12: data that shows that it saves the healthcare system money.

1272
01:00:39,893 --> 01:00:42,693
Speaker 12: And that's locked in because it's been around for thirty years.

1273
01:00:42,693 --> 01:00:46,373
Speaker 12: So you know, people are speculating about it. I think

1274
01:00:46,413 --> 01:00:48,453
Speaker 12: it's a very good idea because it's kind of a

1275
01:00:48,453 --> 01:00:52,093
Speaker 12: bit more accessible and less scary than surgery. People do

1276
01:00:52,253 --> 01:00:55,413
Speaker 12: lose weight, You do want to stop people getting diabetes,

1277
01:00:55,853 --> 01:00:59,493
Speaker 12: and it probably will enable people who currently can't work

1278
01:00:59,533 --> 01:01:03,693
Speaker 12: because the health problems get back into work, and it'll

1279
01:01:03,773 --> 01:01:07,293
Speaker 12: probably save the healthcare system money in the long run.

1280
01:01:08,333 --> 01:01:10,333
Speaker 2: If you take the drug, does it need to be

1281
01:01:10,413 --> 01:01:12,573
Speaker 2: backed up with We're talking to Bill before and he

1282
01:01:12,653 --> 01:01:16,053
Speaker 2: had a dietitian on board and he brought in some exercise.

1283
01:01:16,453 --> 01:01:18,973
Speaker 2: Does it need to have that pairing? Take the drug

1284
01:01:19,093 --> 01:01:22,813
Speaker 2: and also teach yourself how to live going forward in

1285
01:01:22,853 --> 01:01:23,933
Speaker 2: a more healthy fashion.

1286
01:01:25,333 --> 01:01:27,573
Speaker 12: One of the things about the drug is that if

1287
01:01:27,613 --> 01:01:32,013
Speaker 12: you sort of forces you that sax ended particularly, and

1288
01:01:32,053 --> 01:01:34,693
Speaker 12: I'm not so sure about the newer ones that are

1289
01:01:34,733 --> 01:01:37,573
Speaker 12: coming down the pipeline, like two zepotide, which has been

1290
01:01:37,613 --> 01:01:40,933
Speaker 12: talked about a lot, which is the next generation after

1291
01:01:41,013 --> 01:01:45,413
Speaker 12: a zempic. It has fewer side effects. But what happens

1292
01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:47,613
Speaker 12: is that if you eat a lot of carbohydrates or

1293
01:01:47,653 --> 01:01:51,173
Speaker 12: refined carbohydrates and ocroprocessed food, it brings on the side

1294
01:01:51,173 --> 01:01:54,213
Speaker 12: effects of a drug. So it kind of teaches people

1295
01:01:54,373 --> 01:02:00,493
Speaker 12: not to eat noodles and bit writing chips, and so

1296
01:02:00,573 --> 01:02:03,333
Speaker 12: it's actually part of the effect of the drug, right

1297
01:02:03,533 --> 01:02:07,173
Speaker 12: that it kind of corners people into eating whole foods

1298
01:02:07,173 --> 01:02:08,293
Speaker 12: which are better.

1299
01:02:08,093 --> 01:02:11,733
Speaker 3: For Yeah, doctor Richard Barber, thank you very much for

1300
01:02:11,773 --> 01:02:15,693
Speaker 3: your time. He is a bariatric specialist and very renowned

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Speaker 3: surgeon in New Zealand. Fascinating part of the medical industry

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Speaker 3: you work in, doctor Barber. Right, got to get to

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Speaker 3: the headlines. It is twenty eight minutes to three.

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Speaker 16: Jews talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. The murder trial is

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Speaker 16: beginning relating to the death of christ Urch real estate

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Speaker 16: agent Yan Fei Bao, with a jury selected today. Ting

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Speaker 16: Jun Chao is charged with killing Bao, whose body was

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Speaker 16: found more than a year after she went missing. The

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Speaker 16: Medical Council's introducing fast Trak registration for international medical graduates

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Speaker 16: for some classes of doctor from the UK, Ireland and Australia.

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Speaker 16: Auckland businessman Ron Salter will pay four million dollars to

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Speaker 16: settle a first of a kind case taken by police

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Speaker 16: over a contractor's death at Salter's Cartage. Homicide investigation has

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Speaker 16: been launched after a man's body was found on Thursday

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Speaker 16: in a building in Levin's more Bookell Park. A rahuis

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01:03:18,453 --> 01:03:22,733
Speaker 16: in place for nearby Lake Waafenua. The Taxpayer's Union is

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Speaker 16: criticizing Health New Zealand spending sixty thousand dollars on catering

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Speaker 16: for a conference for three hundred senior staff. Eight Steps

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Speaker 16: to a world class health system in New Zealand. You

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Speaker 16: can read the full column at enz Herald Premium. Now

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Speaker 16: back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean and we are talking

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Speaker 3: about the idea of subsidizing the likes of ozempic and

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01:03:45,133 --> 01:03:49,333
Speaker 3: other weight loss drugs. Pretty incredible results overseas. But we

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Speaker 3: heard from Bill a little bit earlier who's just come

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Speaker 3: off at twelvemonth cycle of ozempic, and he said, yes,

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Speaker 3: it's been successful the drug itself, but he also had

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Speaker 3: to work for it. It was a wrap around service

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Speaker 3: with a dietitian, an exercise plan, and also he was

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Speaker 3: eating a lot better. So if you've gone through an

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Speaker 3: experience of a weight loss drug, it doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be a o zen pick. Love to hear from your

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Speaker 3: on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is a lot of people pointing out

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Speaker 2: and this is the truth that it's an addiction. You

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Speaker 2: can have a food addiction, nothing like you can have

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Speaker 2: a heroin addiction. There a new number of other addictions

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Speaker 2: and that's something that has to be dealt with. And

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Speaker 2: the thing with these drugs is it'll quash those cravings,

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Speaker 2: but then you'll come off it again and you have

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Speaker 2: to have to deal with that at that point. If

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Speaker 2: you're looking to deal with addictions overad this phenomenal book

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Speaker 2: by Dr jin Brewer and neuroscientists called The Craving Mind,

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01:04:39,893 --> 01:04:42,293
Speaker 2: and that's just dealing with all addictions the same way,

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01:04:42,333 --> 01:04:46,533
Speaker 2: from a digital phone addiction to alcohol addiction, to cocaine addiction,

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01:04:46,693 --> 01:04:52,133
Speaker 2: to food addiction. And there's very similar mindfulness techniques that

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01:04:52,173 --> 01:04:54,053
Speaker 2: people can use across the board. He's had a huge

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01:04:54,093 --> 01:04:57,693
Speaker 2: amount of success. He's very successful getting people of cigarette smoking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah as well. So I couldn't recommend that book more.

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01:05:01,093 --> 01:05:02,973
Speaker 2: Dr Judson Brewer, The Craving Mind.

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01:05:02,853 --> 01:05:04,173
Speaker 3: Very good, Sophie. How are you.

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Speaker 11: I'm good, Thanks very much. How are you boys?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: Good?

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Speaker 3: Weight loss? Have you had experience with any of these

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Speaker 3: sort of medicines, these drugs.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 11: So I arrived in New Zealand many years ago now

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01:05:22,013 --> 01:05:27,333
Speaker 11: and I was one hundred and seven kgs and I

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01:05:27,493 --> 01:05:29,493
Speaker 11: just made up my mind one day that I would

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Speaker 11: go to weight watchers and a religiously stuck at it

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01:05:36,333 --> 01:05:40,933
Speaker 11: and go every month. Now because I'm a lifetime remember,

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Speaker 11: and I've kept the weight off, and it's a mindset

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Speaker 11: and you either have to want to do it, or

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01:05:47,893 --> 01:05:51,373
Speaker 11: because weight loss or trying to lose weight is very boring,

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Speaker 11: hires them. And it's like I can remember my husband

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Speaker 11: coming home at six o'clock one night and it was

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Speaker 11: absolutely hoisting it down into in Auckland, and I said,

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Speaker 11: I've to go out for a walk and he said

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Speaker 11: you can't. I said no, but I have to, and

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Speaker 11: I went out for an hour and a half. You

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Speaker 11: changed your mindset. And I don't believe as a health professional,

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Speaker 11: I don't believe in medical tricks to help you lose weight,

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Speaker 11: because if you don't reset your mind and reset your body, then.

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Speaker 13: You're not going to keep it off.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you're unique in how you've tackled this?

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Speaker 3: Sofian congratulations by the way. But I'll say this for

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Speaker 3: myself that I kind of it's a bit of a

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Speaker 3: yoyo situation that sometimes I'm very good and I lose

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Speaker 3: the weight and I'm healthy, then for whatever reason, yes, stress,

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Speaker 3: stress comes into my life and I'm back eating like

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01:07:00,453 --> 01:07:03,733
Speaker 3: crap and my blood pressure is going up. I would

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Speaker 3: think you're quite unique in that you've managed to change

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01:07:07,333 --> 01:07:11,613
Speaker 3: your mindset to keep exercising and eating healthy when most

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Speaker 3: of us we just yo yo.

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Speaker 24: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I know a lot of people yo yo. And actually,

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Speaker 11: after I did lose my weight, I became a weight

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Speaker 11: loss consultant for weight watchers, and I can remember somebody

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Speaker 11: coming to one of my meetings, and when they came

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Speaker 11: to my meetings, I could tell people who are going

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Speaker 11: to stick at it, and I could tell people who

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Speaker 11: were just not. And one person said, on our like

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Speaker 11: the introduction talk, So when I lose my weight, can

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Speaker 11: I go down to the local pub and have hot ship?

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Speaker 11: And I said, well, ideally, hopefully over the course of

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Speaker 11: you losing weight, you're rather going to want to choose

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Speaker 11: the salad than hotship.

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Speaker 3: M that's a hard ass for a lot of people.

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01:08:06,493 --> 01:08:09,253
Speaker 3: I'd just say, just on there, I mean, what I found,

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Speaker 3: and again, I go off the rails a little bit

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01:08:12,573 --> 01:08:14,413
Speaker 3: from time to time, and I think that's just going

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01:08:14,493 --> 01:08:17,333
Speaker 3: to be a lifelong battle for me. And high blood

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01:08:17,372 --> 01:08:20,453
Speaker 3: pressure is my issue. Right Hopefully I don't get to diabetes,

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01:08:20,492 --> 01:08:22,133
Speaker 3: but maybe I do. But the thing that work for

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01:08:22,173 --> 01:08:23,973
Speaker 3: me is you've got to find things that you actually enjoy.

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01:08:24,093 --> 01:08:26,452
Speaker 3: I don't enjoy the gym, and I've tried, and I've

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01:08:26,452 --> 01:08:29,972
Speaker 3: had about seventeen different gym memberships before I've figured that out.

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Speaker 3: But what I do enjoy is running and walking with

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Speaker 3: my dog, So that is kind of how I get

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Speaker 3: out and get a bit of exercise. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I wonder if everybody gets to that point.

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Speaker 2: The thing that the thing with exercise though, you have

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01:08:41,412 --> 01:08:43,412
Speaker 2: to do a lot of exercise if you haven't sorted

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Speaker 2: your diet out. Yeah, and actually so iph you said

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01:08:45,532 --> 01:08:48,012
Speaker 2: something interesting just before. It's about the hoffing the food

1418
01:08:48,053 --> 01:08:49,973
Speaker 2: down and one of the best things you can do.

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm a yo yo, I'm all over the top.

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Speaker 2: I mean I just wrote an article about dirty bulking

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01:08:54,732 --> 01:08:58,452
Speaker 2: where I was eating heaps to get the food into

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01:08:58,492 --> 01:09:00,732
Speaker 2: to get the muscle and trying to trim down from that.

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01:09:00,853 --> 01:09:04,173
Speaker 2: But one of the things is just eating food and

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01:09:04,253 --> 01:09:06,812
Speaker 2: concentrating on eating food, because if you don't concentrate on

1425
01:09:06,812 --> 01:09:09,253
Speaker 2: eating food, you can have a whole packet of a

1426
01:09:09,253 --> 01:09:11,412
Speaker 2: whole large packet of chips, yeah, or.

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01:09:11,372 --> 01:09:13,932
Speaker 3: Crisps, Oh god, I was doing them, yeah.

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01:09:13,732 --> 01:09:15,452
Speaker 2: Without even thinking. If you don't think about it, But

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01:09:15,492 --> 01:09:17,492
Speaker 2: if you take a second to actually concentrate on each

1430
01:09:17,572 --> 01:09:19,572
Speaker 2: chip as it goes in, you'll notice that you're getting

1431
01:09:19,612 --> 01:09:21,812
Speaker 2: more than enough flavor. And one of the things that

1432
01:09:21,853 --> 01:09:25,173
Speaker 2: we do now is we'll serve a meal. We'll have

1433
01:09:25,213 --> 01:09:27,972
Speaker 2: a meal and then we'll eat it while we're watching Netflix,

1434
01:09:27,973 --> 01:09:30,612
Speaker 2: watching TV or what we're doing, and then we don't

1435
01:09:30,612 --> 01:09:32,532
Speaker 2: even concentrate on the food, and then it goes down

1436
01:09:32,612 --> 01:09:36,012
Speaker 2: before you've even noticed it, and you get incredibly full.

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01:09:36,013 --> 01:09:37,612
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons people say why weren't people

1438
01:09:37,652 --> 01:09:42,172
Speaker 2: so so having so many problems in the sixty seventies eighties,

1439
01:09:42,372 --> 01:09:44,572
Speaker 2: a lot of people were eating around the table and

1440
01:09:44,612 --> 01:09:46,492
Speaker 2: they were concentrating and they were talking when they were

1441
01:09:46,492 --> 01:09:49,372
Speaker 2: eating the meal, and the main the main thing you're

1442
01:09:49,372 --> 01:09:51,933
Speaker 2: concentrating was on the meal, and as a result, you

1443
01:09:52,253 --> 01:09:55,253
Speaker 2: don't get full as fast, and you taste and the

1444
01:09:55,333 --> 01:09:58,812
Speaker 2: tastes get too much. So that's a huge thing to

1445
01:09:58,973 --> 01:10:01,013
Speaker 2: just A meal should be exciting enough to eat. A

1446
01:10:01,053 --> 01:10:02,933
Speaker 2: meal should have been excited enough that you don't need to

1447
01:10:02,933 --> 01:10:04,532
Speaker 2: sit in front of the television. You don't need to

1448
01:10:04,692 --> 01:10:07,613
Speaker 2: have anything else going on. You can sit and concentrate

1449
01:10:07,652 --> 01:10:10,293
Speaker 2: on that meal, and I guarantee you'll eat less, and

1450
01:10:10,572 --> 01:10:12,772
Speaker 2: you know, you might start craving things that aren't so

1451
01:10:12,973 --> 01:10:17,012
Speaker 2: ridiculously salty and so ridiculously over flavored and over produced

1452
01:10:17,013 --> 01:10:19,213
Speaker 2: and sugary. If you actually concentrate on when you're getting,

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01:10:19,253 --> 01:10:22,253
Speaker 2: you might get enough flavor from whole foods Sophie.

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01:10:23,452 --> 01:10:27,973
Speaker 11: I do think one point that I've always made to

1455
01:10:28,053 --> 01:10:32,172
Speaker 11: people is don't deny yourself anything as long as it's

1456
01:10:32,492 --> 01:10:38,253
Speaker 11: within a reasonable amount, because otherwise you're going to over

1457
01:10:38,333 --> 01:10:38,932
Speaker 11: indulge in it.

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01:10:39,173 --> 01:10:42,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very true. Nice to chat, Sophie. Thank you

1459
01:10:42,173 --> 01:10:45,293
Speaker 3: very much. Less text. All this yo yo talk wants

1460
01:10:46,053 --> 01:10:49,292
Speaker 3: makes me want a biscuit from Andrew. Those are great biscuits.

1461
01:10:49,293 --> 01:10:51,732
Speaker 3: The yo yo is cream in the middle, your bread,

1462
01:10:51,893 --> 01:10:56,333
Speaker 3: beautiful biscuits. You've got to try them. I mean, it's

1463
01:10:57,093 --> 01:10:59,213
Speaker 3: kind of an anti what we're talking about now, but

1464
01:10:59,452 --> 01:11:00,773
Speaker 3: it is seventeen.

1465
01:11:00,812 --> 01:11:01,572
Speaker 2: You're allowed to Yo yo.

1466
01:11:01,692 --> 01:11:07,532
Speaker 3: Every now and then exactly seventeen minutes to three.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking your calls on eight and Tyler Adams Afternoon.

1468
01:11:14,053 --> 01:11:16,772
Speaker 3: News dogs Me Sarah, Good afternoon to you.

1469
01:11:17,933 --> 01:11:19,293
Speaker 13: Hi, Matte Hi Tyler.

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01:11:19,973 --> 01:11:22,972
Speaker 25: I thought you might be interested in talking about these

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Speaker 25: these injections we're going. I'm the CEO of a company

1472
01:11:28,732 --> 01:11:33,052
Speaker 25: called Telecurb and we're going to Obesity Week next week

1473
01:11:33,093 --> 01:11:36,732
Speaker 25: in the US in Texas, which is the largest in

1474
01:11:36,812 --> 01:11:37,253
Speaker 25: the world.

1475
01:11:37,412 --> 01:11:39,372
Speaker 2: I bet there's a bigger BA City Week in Texas.

1476
01:11:40,893 --> 01:11:46,612
Speaker 25: Yes, people, No, No, it's all the leading doctors in

1477
01:11:46,652 --> 01:11:46,972
Speaker 25: the world.

1478
01:11:47,053 --> 01:11:47,492
Speaker 14: It's all a.

1479
01:11:47,572 --> 01:11:53,053
Speaker 25: Leading researchers, and our government scientist is presenting there. So

1480
01:11:53,173 --> 01:11:57,492
Speaker 25: absolutely fascinating and hearing all of the latest dinners. I

1481
01:11:57,572 --> 01:11:59,692
Speaker 25: just wanted to go back on a couple of things.

1482
01:11:59,772 --> 01:12:03,692
Speaker 25: When you talk about addiction, it's actually the hind brain

1483
01:12:03,812 --> 01:12:08,053
Speaker 25: which controls our appetite. Now, this was an asset.

1484
01:12:07,772 --> 01:12:11,572
Speaker 13: In evolution because what it did was it made.

1485
01:12:11,372 --> 01:12:14,093
Speaker 25: Us go out and hunt food. So as soon as

1486
01:12:14,133 --> 01:12:17,293
Speaker 25: you drop your calories or you drop your energy intake,

1487
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:22,653
Speaker 25: these appetite centers in your hind brain fire and increase

1488
01:12:22,732 --> 01:12:27,013
Speaker 25: your hunger. So if you drop your calorie intake by

1489
01:12:27,093 --> 01:12:32,892
Speaker 25: twenty five percent. Your hunger doubles over four months because

1490
01:12:32,933 --> 01:12:36,452
Speaker 25: it's telling you go out and eat. Now, unfortunately this

1491
01:12:36,572 --> 01:12:40,253
Speaker 25: was an asset for us in evolution, but now when

1492
01:12:40,253 --> 01:12:44,812
Speaker 25: we're surrounded by food, it's actually a liability because we're

1493
01:12:44,853 --> 01:12:47,733
Speaker 25: surrounded by food and as soon as you drop your calories,

1494
01:12:48,133 --> 01:12:51,013
Speaker 25: your brain is firing, and it's your hind brain, not

1495
01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:55,453
Speaker 25: your full brain. So very lucky Sophie has this incredible

1496
01:12:55,452 --> 01:13:00,253
Speaker 25: will power. Probably nine out of ten people, you put stress,

1497
01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:04,572
Speaker 25: you put alcohol, you put tiredness, you put warmones, your

1498
01:13:04,772 --> 01:13:08,532
Speaker 25: willpower goes and your little hind brain goes, whoohoo, I'm

1499
01:13:08,572 --> 01:13:10,892
Speaker 25: going up and we're going to eat. And then your

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01:13:10,933 --> 01:13:15,092
Speaker 25: brain does everything it can to defend your weight because

1501
01:13:15,133 --> 01:13:17,692
Speaker 25: it thinks you may be going into a famine again.

1502
01:13:18,732 --> 01:13:23,372
Speaker 25: So what these drugs do is what these drugs do

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01:13:23,492 --> 01:13:26,892
Speaker 25: is they actually suppress that appetite for a while. So

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01:13:26,973 --> 01:13:31,173
Speaker 25: to your point, you can reset that brain, you can

1505
01:13:31,253 --> 01:13:35,732
Speaker 25: reset that meta bollet or that set weight point. But

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01:13:35,772 --> 01:13:39,572
Speaker 25: the other thing is I think Bill said before that yes,

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01:13:39,652 --> 01:13:42,652
Speaker 25: it is a tool in the toolkit. You have to

1508
01:13:42,692 --> 01:13:45,452
Speaker 25: do food, you have to change your food, and you

1509
01:13:45,572 --> 01:13:49,253
Speaker 25: have to do some exercise because it's not going to work.

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Speaker 25: So it is just one tool.

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01:13:51,333 --> 01:13:56,213
Speaker 2: So Sarah, when you come off these drugs, don't you

1512
01:13:56,253 --> 01:14:00,133
Speaker 2: just go straight back to that behind brain just then running.

1513
01:14:00,173 --> 01:14:02,253
Speaker 2: It's a program that it was running before you took

1514
01:14:02,253 --> 01:14:02,893
Speaker 2: the drugs.

1515
01:14:03,732 --> 01:14:07,213
Speaker 25: Yeah, but remember you've reset your what you call your

1516
01:14:07,213 --> 01:14:10,532
Speaker 25: set point or your meta bollic sept point. So your

1517
01:14:10,692 --> 01:14:13,093
Speaker 25: weight has decreased and you've got to keep it there

1518
01:14:13,133 --> 01:14:15,852
Speaker 25: for a while. Your body goes, oh, this is a

1519
01:14:15,893 --> 01:14:19,213
Speaker 25: normal one, but you have to have changed your food.

1520
01:14:19,492 --> 01:14:22,012
Speaker 25: But what a lot of doctors are doing in the US.

1521
01:14:22,093 --> 01:14:25,853
Speaker 25: We sell mainly in the US now just very quickly. Talcub,

1522
01:14:26,253 --> 01:14:29,852
Speaker 25: the company that we have is developed by the New

1523
01:14:29,933 --> 01:14:34,772
Speaker 25: Zealand government or Plant and Food Research over fourteen years

1524
01:14:35,133 --> 01:14:39,452
Speaker 25: with twenty five million in funding. So what calicub does,

1525
01:14:39,572 --> 01:14:42,732
Speaker 25: or the active ingredient which has grown here in New Zealand,

1526
01:14:43,213 --> 01:14:47,453
Speaker 25: is we stimulate your body's own release of these appetite

1527
01:14:47,492 --> 01:14:50,732
Speaker 25: suppressing hormones which go up to your brain and tell

1528
01:14:50,772 --> 01:14:54,052
Speaker 25: you you're not full. We are eighty nine dollars versus

1529
01:14:54,093 --> 01:14:57,652
Speaker 25: five hundred dollars, right, these are tiny capsules, one hundred

1530
01:14:57,692 --> 01:15:00,852
Speaker 25: percent natural. Now, the reason I'm saying that is we

1531
01:15:00,933 --> 01:15:04,852
Speaker 25: sell them predominantly ninety percent in the US, and doctors

1532
01:15:04,853 --> 01:15:09,013
Speaker 25: are using those using calicub as. People can off the

1533
01:15:09,053 --> 01:15:15,333
Speaker 25: injections because on the injections, you're injecting in a synthetic hormone, right,

1534
01:15:15,812 --> 01:15:19,293
Speaker 25: What we do is stimulate your natural hormones. So when

1535
01:15:19,293 --> 01:15:22,372
Speaker 25: they come off the synthetics, what we're helping to do

1536
01:15:22,893 --> 01:15:27,532
Speaker 25: is restimulate that brain gup access and it acts as

1537
01:15:27,572 --> 01:15:30,812
Speaker 25: a wonderful parachute for them. So yeah, that's where we

1538
01:15:30,853 --> 01:15:33,492
Speaker 25: do most of our sales as to doctors in the US,

1539
01:15:34,293 --> 01:15:38,372
Speaker 25: bringing people off the injections so they can maintain that

1540
01:15:38,412 --> 01:15:42,213
Speaker 25: weight loss and just maintain as they you know, just

1541
01:15:42,293 --> 01:15:44,892
Speaker 25: go back into a normal eating pattern or hopefully a

1542
01:15:44,893 --> 01:15:46,372
Speaker 25: more healthier eating pattern.

1543
01:15:46,652 --> 01:15:49,133
Speaker 2: Do people have to see a doctor before they jump

1544
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:53,692
Speaker 2: on these these pills or do or is it just

1545
01:15:53,732 --> 01:15:55,412
Speaker 2: for sale wherever you go?

1546
01:15:55,572 --> 01:15:59,492
Speaker 25: No, No, they absolutely use it as an alternative as well,

1547
01:15:59,812 --> 01:16:02,452
Speaker 25: and they use it as an alternative if people can't

1548
01:16:02,853 --> 01:16:06,892
Speaker 25: afford the drugs, because over there there are thousand dollars.

1549
01:16:07,013 --> 01:16:12,132
Speaker 3: But you'd want to go talk to your GP for surely, Sarah, Oh.

1550
01:16:12,053 --> 01:16:15,253
Speaker 25: Yeah, absolutely, you know, yeah, I think, well they have

1551
01:16:15,412 --> 01:16:18,492
Speaker 25: to anyway get the intentions. You have to talk to

1552
01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:21,813
Speaker 25: your GP. But you know, like if it's only ten kilos,

1553
01:16:21,853 --> 01:16:26,333
Speaker 25: I wouldn't be recommending putting a syntheta hormone in you.

1554
01:16:26,652 --> 01:16:29,012
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, good to hear from you, Sarah and Kello

1555
01:16:30,093 --> 01:16:32,492
Speaker 3: kurb I think it was. But we'll have a chat

1556
01:16:32,532 --> 01:16:35,213
Speaker 3: after you come back from Texas because that sounds like

1557
01:16:35,213 --> 01:16:38,333
Speaker 3: a fascinating conference. It is nine minutes to three.

1558
01:16:39,732 --> 01:16:42,173
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1559
01:16:42,213 --> 01:16:42,812
Speaker 4: along the way.

1560
01:16:43,053 --> 01:16:46,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty twenty four,

1561
01:16:46,933 --> 01:16:49,812
Speaker 1: you've talked Z six to three cad.

1562
01:16:49,812 --> 01:16:51,772
Speaker 2: I now I understand you're on a weight loss trial.

1563
01:16:53,213 --> 01:16:59,172
Speaker 5: I am, And yeah, it's been a really really interesting journey.

1564
01:17:01,572 --> 01:17:06,452
Speaker 5: So I've been typically hovering around the one ten. Once

1565
01:17:06,492 --> 01:17:10,173
Speaker 5: it's been kg mark and then I managed to keep

1566
01:17:10,213 --> 01:17:15,772
Speaker 5: myself on a weight loss trial that actually, over the

1567
01:17:15,812 --> 01:17:19,572
Speaker 5: period of two years, I dropped thirty k Wow.

1568
01:17:21,253 --> 01:17:24,732
Speaker 2: Then what type of weight loss trial was it was? It?

1569
01:17:24,812 --> 01:17:25,253
Speaker 2: Was it dry?

1570
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:27,012
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1571
01:17:27,173 --> 01:17:36,612
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the the Ozempac family and it was

1572
01:17:38,213 --> 01:17:45,173
Speaker 5: a weekly injection. And then that finished in May of

1573
01:17:45,253 --> 01:17:53,492
Speaker 5: this year, and I've been on a on basically a

1574
01:17:53,612 --> 01:18:04,412
Speaker 5: watch since then I'm a monitoring period of time and

1575
01:18:05,652 --> 01:18:08,093
Speaker 5: I've put on twenty kg.

1576
01:18:08,933 --> 01:18:11,293
Speaker 3: Oh right, so you lost thirty and you're put on twenty.

1577
01:18:11,372 --> 01:18:14,133
Speaker 2: So when you came off it did the hunger come

1578
01:18:14,213 --> 01:18:17,412
Speaker 2: back when you stop having the injections? How quickly did

1579
01:18:17,452 --> 01:18:18,293
Speaker 2: the hunger come back?

1580
01:18:20,293 --> 01:18:25,532
Speaker 5: Probably within a month and there was just no way

1581
01:18:25,532 --> 01:18:26,412
Speaker 5: of stopping it.

1582
01:18:28,053 --> 01:18:30,772
Speaker 2: So in your in your opinion and having gone through that,

1583
01:18:30,933 --> 01:18:33,852
Speaker 2: do you think that the change needs to be made

1584
01:18:34,253 --> 01:18:38,013
Speaker 2: in terms of mentally you need to actually make that

1585
01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:43,133
Speaker 2: that change yourself. Could either that or stay on the

1586
01:18:43,173 --> 01:18:43,692
Speaker 2: drugs for ever.

1587
01:18:46,452 --> 01:18:51,532
Speaker 5: I think as part of the trial, people who are

1588
01:18:51,572 --> 01:18:56,493
Speaker 5: going on the trial need need to be better educated

1589
01:18:56,652 --> 01:19:02,652
Speaker 5: around just the effects. At the end year, we were

1590
01:19:02,732 --> 01:19:10,573
Speaker 5: given access to a nutrition list and and monthly monitoring

1591
01:19:12,173 --> 01:19:22,652
Speaker 5: and they monitored our exercise, eating, our everything. Yeah, it

1592
01:19:22,692 --> 01:19:29,372
Speaker 5: was well, it was a fantastic trial, with the exception

1593
01:19:29,572 --> 01:19:32,492
Speaker 5: that as soon as you came off it was almost

1594
01:19:32,532 --> 01:19:33,533
Speaker 5: like cold turkey.

1595
01:19:33,812 --> 01:19:35,692
Speaker 3: It wasn't quite the silver bullet that you thought. It

1596
01:19:35,732 --> 01:19:39,692
Speaker 3: was good discussion, really enjoyed that something that Neil and

1597
01:19:39,853 --> 01:19:45,133
Speaker 3: go well Neil News Talks B thirteen past three Good afternoons.

1598
01:19:45,213 --> 01:19:47,372
Speaker 3: You so Matt's got a car park problem.

1599
01:19:47,532 --> 01:19:49,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So I come home and find someone

1600
01:19:49,532 --> 01:19:55,412
Speaker 2: parked in my spot, and you know, that's okay. I'll

1601
01:19:55,452 --> 01:19:57,812
Speaker 2: leave a note the same car parked in the same spot.

1602
01:19:58,213 --> 01:19:59,293
Speaker 3: And hang on, what did the notes say?

1603
01:19:59,333 --> 01:20:01,053
Speaker 2: It was very friendly. It was just say this is

1604
01:20:01,093 --> 01:20:02,532
Speaker 2: my spot, you please not park in here.

1605
01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:03,492
Speaker 3: Friendly?

1606
01:20:03,812 --> 01:20:04,333
Speaker 2: Yes it is.

1607
01:20:04,452 --> 01:20:06,652
Speaker 3: Did you start off with a good afternoon, dear neighbor?

1608
01:20:08,372 --> 01:20:09,492
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't know if it was a

1609
01:20:09,532 --> 01:20:12,173
Speaker 2: neighbor or night, but no, it was just it was

1610
01:20:12,213 --> 01:20:12,772
Speaker 2: it was.

1611
01:20:12,812 --> 01:20:14,772
Speaker 3: There was no cats. You might describe it as curt

1612
01:20:14,933 --> 01:20:17,892
Speaker 3: all lower case, yeah, right, Kurt. Yeah, but friendly enough.

1613
01:20:18,053 --> 01:20:19,892
Speaker 2: It depends what what nuance you put on it when

1614
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:21,452
Speaker 2: you read it, I guess, but you know I was

1615
01:20:21,492 --> 01:20:23,852
Speaker 2: reasonably annoyed as I was writing it. Then the next

1616
01:20:23,893 --> 01:20:28,212
Speaker 2: day still there. So then I wrote an offensive message

1617
01:20:28,213 --> 01:20:31,573
Speaker 2: in the in the in the dust on the bonnet and.

1618
01:20:31,372 --> 01:20:33,492
Speaker 3: Then okay, now what did that say on the bonnot

1619
01:20:33,492 --> 01:20:33,852
Speaker 3: and the dust.

1620
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:36,013
Speaker 2: I don't want to repeat that on news tooks. He'd be.

1621
01:20:37,492 --> 01:20:38,692
Speaker 3: It wasn't it hand written? No?

1622
01:20:38,772 --> 01:20:41,492
Speaker 2: It was handwritten. Yeah, the message was finger written.

1623
01:20:44,013 --> 01:20:44,293
Speaker 13: Okay.

1624
01:20:44,333 --> 01:20:47,532
Speaker 2: So there was a day two and then day three,

1625
01:20:47,572 --> 01:20:51,572
Speaker 2: lift up up the hand. Day three lifted up the

1626
01:20:51,692 --> 01:20:53,213
Speaker 2: windscreen ripers and just left them up.

1627
01:20:53,253 --> 01:20:55,333
Speaker 3: See that should have been day two and then three

1628
01:20:55,372 --> 01:20:57,172
Speaker 3: is the duty with petty revenge.

1629
01:20:57,173 --> 01:20:59,053
Speaker 2: But at this point I'm still feeling quite virtuous because

1630
01:20:59,053 --> 01:21:00,892
Speaker 2: they haven't got them told. Because I think getting someone

1631
01:21:00,933 --> 01:21:02,972
Speaker 2: towed is an extreme measure.

1632
01:21:03,093 --> 01:21:03,572
Speaker 3: I agree.

1633
01:21:03,732 --> 01:21:07,612
Speaker 2: So finally down the track, I did the manly proper

1634
01:21:07,652 --> 01:21:11,692
Speaker 2: thing of fronting the driver, right yep, And that was fine.

1635
01:21:11,812 --> 01:21:13,973
Speaker 2: But I was thinking about that, how quickly do you

1636
01:21:14,013 --> 01:21:17,133
Speaker 2: have someone towd And is it better? Am I more

1637
01:21:17,213 --> 01:21:21,253
Speaker 2: virtuous because I did some passive aggressive revenge than getting

1638
01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:23,213
Speaker 2: someone toad straight away? And I'm glad actually, I mean

1639
01:21:23,213 --> 01:21:24,652
Speaker 2: I can tell the rest of the story later, But

1640
01:21:24,732 --> 01:21:27,293
Speaker 2: why I'm glad that I didn't get toad or let

1641
01:21:27,293 --> 01:21:30,452
Speaker 2: the person's tires down, or do anything much worse. So

1642
01:21:30,492 --> 01:21:32,452
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear people's petty revenge that they've had

1643
01:21:32,492 --> 01:21:35,572
Speaker 2: on parking, how quickly they get people toad that kind

1644
01:21:35,612 --> 01:21:35,852
Speaker 2: of thing.

1645
01:21:35,853 --> 01:21:39,213
Speaker 3: I do the right thing here. I mean, I have

1646
01:21:39,412 --> 01:21:41,652
Speaker 3: never got someone told in my life, I don't think,

1647
01:21:41,692 --> 01:21:43,652
Speaker 3: so I just have to cast my mind back. Have

1648
01:21:43,732 --> 01:21:46,412
Speaker 3: I gone to that extreming to say, I've never got

1649
01:21:46,412 --> 01:21:50,212
Speaker 3: someone told, but I would, and it's never happened to me, thankfully.

1650
01:21:50,372 --> 01:21:53,013
Speaker 3: But if I was in your situation and they are

1651
01:21:53,053 --> 01:21:55,173
Speaker 3: in the car and they just about to park up,

1652
01:21:55,213 --> 01:21:58,013
Speaker 3: and I confronted them say hey, I don't know if

1653
01:21:58,053 --> 01:22:00,293
Speaker 3: you notice, but that's my car park. Could you please

1654
01:22:00,333 --> 01:22:03,253
Speaker 3: not park there? And if they turned around and said, Ei,

1655
01:22:03,253 --> 01:22:05,093
Speaker 3: the heck of you, I'll park where I want. I

1656
01:22:05,173 --> 01:22:07,093
Speaker 3: gave me the middle finger, then I'd be straight to

1657
01:22:07,293 --> 01:22:09,253
Speaker 3: the council and say, gets numpty toad.

1658
01:22:09,532 --> 01:22:11,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got to be intently, it hasn't there to

1659
01:22:11,812 --> 01:22:12,452
Speaker 2: get them toed.

1660
01:22:12,532 --> 01:22:15,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, rudeness to me gets rudeness back to me.

1661
01:22:15,253 --> 01:22:15,412
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1662
01:22:15,532 --> 01:22:17,532
Speaker 2: Someone says, how exactly is it your spot, Matt, Well,

1663
01:22:17,532 --> 01:22:20,532
Speaker 2: it's my allocated spot, right. It all comes with the system. Okay,

1664
01:22:20,692 --> 01:22:22,612
Speaker 2: I'm not just claiming a spot that's my spot.

1665
01:22:22,853 --> 01:22:25,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got your name on it literally has your

1666
01:22:25,173 --> 01:22:25,612
Speaker 3: name on it.

1667
01:22:25,893 --> 01:22:27,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying that's my spot, but yeah, I mean,

1668
01:22:27,532 --> 01:22:28,812
Speaker 2: how quickly do you get someone toed?

1669
01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:31,652
Speaker 3: Well, And I think this might be where you're going

1670
01:22:31,732 --> 01:22:33,173
Speaker 3: to go with the story. Maybe, but I'm going to

1671
01:22:33,173 --> 01:22:35,532
Speaker 3: ask the question, this is someone in the neighborhood, someone

1672
01:22:35,612 --> 01:22:37,852
Speaker 3: quite close to where you live. Yeah, yes, see, because

1673
01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:41,093
Speaker 3: you don't want it to escalate if you, yeah, if

1674
01:22:41,133 --> 01:22:44,053
Speaker 3: you go straight for the nuclear option of getting their

1675
01:22:44,093 --> 01:22:46,572
Speaker 3: car towed. You don't know what sort of nutcase I mean,

1676
01:22:46,572 --> 01:22:48,253
Speaker 3: this is someone who just parks on a car back

1677
01:22:48,293 --> 01:22:50,772
Speaker 3: willy nilly, even if your name's on it. This person

1678
01:22:50,772 --> 01:22:52,892
Speaker 3: can do whatever. You know, they can really turn on.

1679
01:22:52,853 --> 01:22:55,692
Speaker 2: You well well, well exactly. I mean, you don't know

1680
01:22:55,692 --> 01:22:58,293
Speaker 2: where revenge is going to go. And there's been plenty

1681
01:22:58,333 --> 01:23:00,452
Speaker 2: of neighborhood situations like that as well, Like I mean,

1682
01:23:00,452 --> 01:23:02,293
Speaker 2: when you when you've gone for a little bit of

1683
01:23:02,532 --> 01:23:07,172
Speaker 2: revenge on a neighbor, like say, for example, a neighbor

1684
01:23:08,412 --> 01:23:10,892
Speaker 2: doesn't mow their burm or something, Yeah, I don't know.

1685
01:23:11,053 --> 01:23:13,732
Speaker 2: And then actually that's not a very good example because

1686
01:23:13,732 --> 01:23:14,932
Speaker 2: I mean I've had a nagb that to not mow

1687
01:23:14,933 --> 01:23:16,812
Speaker 2: the berm, so I started mowing the berm. But that

1688
01:23:16,893 --> 01:23:19,812
Speaker 2: wasn't really revenge. That was more that was more the

1689
01:23:19,853 --> 01:23:22,133
Speaker 2: opposite of revenge. That was helping them out. But what

1690
01:23:22,213 --> 01:23:25,213
Speaker 2: about a neighbor sort of tips their leavings, their grass,

1691
01:23:25,253 --> 01:23:27,013
Speaker 2: you know, mostly lawns, and then tips them over into

1692
01:23:27,093 --> 01:23:30,813
Speaker 2: your side and then you respond with bits of rubbish

1693
01:23:31,093 --> 01:23:32,692
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, it's a full on war.

1694
01:23:33,053 --> 01:23:35,053
Speaker 3: That is egregious though, but yeah, I don't think i'd

1695
01:23:35,053 --> 01:23:36,812
Speaker 3: do that. You'd have to confront the person. Just a

1696
01:23:36,973 --> 01:23:39,732
Speaker 3: scenario that I can think of, similar but not quite

1697
01:23:39,772 --> 01:23:42,452
Speaker 3: the same as in our place in christ Jews and

1698
01:23:42,492 --> 01:23:45,692
Speaker 3: some new neighbors are moved in and they started parking

1699
01:23:45,692 --> 01:23:48,892
Speaker 3: across our driveway a little bit too much for my liking.

1700
01:23:49,452 --> 01:23:50,732
Speaker 3: And I managed to get round it, but it was

1701
01:23:50,772 --> 01:23:52,692
Speaker 3: MESSI I had to drive up on the curb and

1702
01:23:52,893 --> 01:23:55,932
Speaker 3: ed to, you know, try and just squeeze past the fence.

1703
01:23:56,532 --> 01:23:59,852
Speaker 3: And I fumed about it. Yeah right, But I left

1704
01:23:59,853 --> 01:24:01,972
Speaker 3: it for a couple of days, getting angry and angry,

1705
01:24:02,013 --> 01:24:04,933
Speaker 3: and I thought, nah, I'm going to go and have

1706
01:24:05,053 --> 01:24:07,253
Speaker 3: words with this person. Next door neighbor knocked on the door.

1707
01:24:07,452 --> 01:24:09,412
Speaker 3: Turned out they were fantast people and they were really

1708
01:24:09,452 --> 01:24:12,253
Speaker 3: apologetic and they didn't know they were parking so far

1709
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:14,692
Speaker 3: across my driveway. And we ended up giving each other

1710
01:24:14,732 --> 01:24:17,092
Speaker 3: Christmas gifts every year. So that was a nice into

1711
01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:19,173
Speaker 3: that story. But because I was a coward initially and

1712
01:24:19,253 --> 01:24:23,293
Speaker 3: just fuming, some people would go straight to toe that car,

1713
01:24:23,532 --> 01:24:26,372
Speaker 3: whereas talking to your neighbor in that case that well.

1714
01:24:26,412 --> 01:24:28,772
Speaker 2: I had an incident where someone I was parking in

1715
01:24:28,812 --> 01:24:31,692
Speaker 2: a completely legitimate spot in front of a house a

1716
01:24:31,692 --> 01:24:33,772
Speaker 2: few years back, and my neighbor came out and said,

1717
01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:35,852
Speaker 2: I can't see you when I'm pulling out of my driveway.

1718
01:24:35,893 --> 01:24:38,052
Speaker 2: What are you doing? I cannot see when I'm pulling

1719
01:24:38,053 --> 01:24:42,052
Speaker 2: out my driveway and I was I said, well, that's

1720
01:24:42,253 --> 01:24:44,253
Speaker 2: someone's going to park there, like if I'm not park there,

1721
01:24:44,253 --> 01:24:46,692
Speaker 2: it's a park. Someone's going to park there. And then

1722
01:24:46,853 --> 01:24:48,612
Speaker 2: that didn't end up in Christmas presents, that's for.

1723
01:24:48,532 --> 01:24:51,492
Speaker 3: Sure, right, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to

1724
01:24:51,612 --> 01:24:53,852
Speaker 3: hear from you if you've been in a similar situation

1725
01:24:53,893 --> 01:24:56,293
Speaker 3: when it comes to parking in your neighborhood. What did

1726
01:24:56,372 --> 01:24:57,012
Speaker 3: you do?

1727
01:24:57,013 --> 01:24:59,692
Speaker 2: Do you toe straight away? Or do you get juvenile?

1728
01:24:59,772 --> 01:25:01,772
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number? It's twenty

1729
01:25:01,812 --> 01:25:04,493
Speaker 3: five past three. You thought.

1730
01:25:07,173 --> 01:25:10,532
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler at it afternoons? Call Oh eight hundred

1731
01:25:10,612 --> 01:25:12,492
Speaker 1: eighty eighty on News Talk ZB.

1732
01:25:12,853 --> 01:25:15,612
Speaker 3: It's the one twenty seven past three. Is it okay

1733
01:25:15,652 --> 01:25:18,732
Speaker 3: to dob in your neighbors? That's the question you ask yourself.

1734
01:25:18,732 --> 01:25:21,572
Speaker 3: Matt Heath. You wrote about it on matteath dot substack

1735
01:25:21,652 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 3: dot com. A situation with someone who was parking and

1736
01:25:24,692 --> 01:25:26,613
Speaker 3: what was clearly your car park.

1737
01:25:26,452 --> 01:25:28,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, am I good person for not getting them towed

1738
01:25:28,333 --> 01:25:30,412
Speaker 2: but instead going for petty revenge? And what does it

1739
01:25:30,452 --> 01:25:31,452
Speaker 2: take to get someone towed?

1740
01:25:31,572 --> 01:25:34,212
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what. Matthew has a has a solution,

1741
01:25:34,572 --> 01:25:35,293
Speaker 3: get a Matthew.

1742
01:25:36,133 --> 01:25:37,572
Speaker 26: Hey, good addie.

1743
01:25:38,572 --> 01:25:39,452
Speaker 4: I think it was good.

1744
01:25:39,692 --> 01:25:43,772
Speaker 26: Neighbors are Neighbors are good because I mean, obviously you

1745
01:25:43,812 --> 01:25:46,412
Speaker 26: want to keep the relationship. You don't want to have

1746
01:25:46,572 --> 01:25:48,452
Speaker 26: neighbors at war. Start off the head.

1747
01:25:48,612 --> 01:25:51,093
Speaker 3: Good show though, that was a good show show.

1748
01:25:51,933 --> 01:25:54,972
Speaker 26: But if you if you do, like get someone dim

1749
01:25:55,013 --> 01:25:59,412
Speaker 26: with that parks illegally or takes up two cars, boats

1750
01:25:59,853 --> 01:26:03,133
Speaker 26: keeper a permanent marker in your car and right on

1751
01:26:03,173 --> 01:26:07,293
Speaker 26: their window, and then well well because then they have

1752
01:26:07,412 --> 01:26:09,452
Speaker 26: to see it, like they you can't like to throw

1753
01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:12,452
Speaker 26: the note away, but they see it, and it takes

1754
01:26:12,452 --> 01:26:14,812
Speaker 26: an effort for them to get off because you've and

1755
01:26:14,853 --> 01:26:18,572
Speaker 26: you've left, You've said what you're a bloody w way

1756
01:26:18,893 --> 01:26:19,612
Speaker 26: you know well?

1757
01:26:20,053 --> 01:26:22,372
Speaker 2: And to write it in mirror writing so they can

1758
01:26:22,372 --> 01:26:23,372
Speaker 2: read it. Do you have to be that clean?

1759
01:26:23,492 --> 01:26:23,612
Speaker 14: Well?

1760
01:26:23,652 --> 01:26:26,293
Speaker 26: You can write it on their windscreen backwards. Yeah, then

1761
01:26:26,333 --> 01:26:30,772
Speaker 26: they have to see it. But it's absolutely good because

1762
01:26:31,013 --> 01:26:33,532
Speaker 26: you're not sort of doing you're graff eating, but they

1763
01:26:33,532 --> 01:26:34,253
Speaker 26: can get it off.

1764
01:26:34,412 --> 01:26:37,053
Speaker 3: I like your thinking, yeah, because you've gone straight. You're

1765
01:26:37,053 --> 01:26:39,812
Speaker 3: not straight for a mild inconvenience. So to me, there's

1766
01:26:39,812 --> 01:26:43,213
Speaker 3: three levels. There's minor, mild, in major, and you've gone

1767
01:26:43,253 --> 01:26:46,372
Speaker 3: straight for the mild inconvenience that it's not damaging the car,

1768
01:26:46,572 --> 01:26:48,253
Speaker 3: but it's going to take no effort to get.

1769
01:26:48,173 --> 01:26:50,213
Speaker 26: It off and they're going to see it and they're

1770
01:26:50,213 --> 01:26:53,492
Speaker 26: going to think, who the hell wrote out bloody and yeah,

1771
01:26:53,652 --> 01:26:55,732
Speaker 26: but yeah, so just keep a vivid in your car

1772
01:26:55,893 --> 01:26:58,412
Speaker 26: and you can do the wide one or yeah, and

1773
01:26:58,452 --> 01:26:59,213
Speaker 26: it's perfect.

1774
01:26:59,492 --> 01:27:03,013
Speaker 2: And methew, are you writing a friendly note because I

1775
01:27:03,053 --> 01:27:05,492
Speaker 2: think that that's quite amusing because you've gone to you're

1776
01:27:05,492 --> 01:27:08,093
Speaker 2: writing on their car, which is quite aggressive, but it's like, hey,

1777
01:27:08,173 --> 01:27:10,973
Speaker 2: just so you know, you're parking in my spot and

1778
01:27:11,013 --> 01:27:13,772
Speaker 2: i'd really appreciate in the future if you wouldn't thank

1779
01:27:13,812 --> 01:27:15,132
Speaker 2: you so much of a great day.

1780
01:27:15,372 --> 01:27:17,972
Speaker 26: But agree, But that's but that's a nighb of Matt.

1781
01:27:18,053 --> 01:27:20,693
Speaker 26: So you want to maybe be thee and keep the relationship.

1782
01:27:20,933 --> 01:27:23,692
Speaker 26: But in a public car park that someone's taken over

1783
01:27:23,732 --> 01:27:27,053
Speaker 26: to parkes you just want to say you're an absolute

1784
01:27:27,133 --> 01:27:30,452
Speaker 26: dem wet. You know it big and bold, so then

1785
01:27:30,812 --> 01:27:34,372
Speaker 26: other people walking by see it and then of getting

1786
01:27:34,372 --> 01:27:34,732
Speaker 26: it off.

1787
01:27:34,933 --> 01:27:38,013
Speaker 2: This is brilliant a great tip. That is actually a

1788
01:27:38,372 --> 01:27:40,852
Speaker 2: fantastic tip. You might have solved the whole situation there

1789
01:27:40,893 --> 01:27:44,652
Speaker 2: because you are you're seending a nice message, but you're

1790
01:27:44,652 --> 01:27:48,492
Speaker 2: also enacting a little bit of revenge and there's a

1791
01:27:48,492 --> 01:27:49,773
Speaker 2: little bit you're feeling.

1792
01:27:49,412 --> 01:27:50,093
Speaker 6: Better about it.

1793
01:27:50,213 --> 01:27:51,532
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's perfect.

1794
01:27:51,893 --> 01:27:53,572
Speaker 2: I think you might have nailed that and they can

1795
01:27:53,612 --> 01:27:55,253
Speaker 2: feel grateful you didn't get them to.

1796
01:27:55,053 --> 01:27:58,812
Speaker 3: Exactly Matthew, thank you very much. Quick text then we'll

1797
01:27:58,812 --> 01:28:02,052
Speaker 3: take more of your phone calls. Toying costs the offender

1798
01:28:02,213 --> 01:28:05,173
Speaker 3: four hundred bucks release fee. So that is it's pretty major,

1799
01:28:05,213 --> 01:28:05,492
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1800
01:28:05,492 --> 01:28:08,972
Speaker 2: And especially if it's a neighbor, then that is really

1801
01:28:09,173 --> 01:28:12,652
Speaker 2: huge thing to do to them. And if it's your park,

1802
01:28:12,692 --> 01:28:14,492
Speaker 2: they'll see you packing there quite a lot. They'll know

1803
01:28:14,933 --> 01:28:16,932
Speaker 2: that you did that, and it's quite hard to come

1804
01:28:16,933 --> 01:28:18,932
Speaker 2: back from that. And you might need that neighbor someday

1805
01:28:18,973 --> 01:28:20,692
Speaker 2: for something. Maybe your house is on fire and you

1806
01:28:20,732 --> 01:28:22,852
Speaker 2: need them, you know, maybe you have a heart attack

1807
01:28:23,492 --> 01:28:26,012
Speaker 2: or you know, maybe you need to be resuscitated by them.

1808
01:28:26,213 --> 01:28:30,133
Speaker 3: Well, when your dog Colin got loose, well that was

1809
01:28:30,133 --> 01:28:32,053
Speaker 3: about a month ago, right, yes, and you got the

1810
01:28:32,093 --> 01:28:35,372
Speaker 3: whole neighborhood helping to try and find Colin. Turned out

1811
01:28:35,372 --> 01:28:38,093
Speaker 3: it was quite a funny story. But this neighbor that

1812
01:28:38,213 --> 01:28:40,372
Speaker 3: was parking your car park might have been the one

1813
01:28:40,372 --> 01:28:41,012
Speaker 3: to find Colin.

1814
01:28:41,293 --> 01:28:43,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, actually exactly. You don't know what's going

1815
01:28:43,333 --> 01:28:44,093
Speaker 2: to happen down the track.

1816
01:28:44,213 --> 01:28:46,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, eight one hundred and eighty eighty. It ish

1817
01:28:46,772 --> 01:28:47,933
Speaker 3: past three.

1818
01:28:50,812 --> 01:28:51,452
Speaker 4: Jew's talks.

1819
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1839
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty six to four.

1840
01:30:13,173 --> 01:30:16,652
Speaker 2: We're talking about parking and how quickly you go to towing,

1841
01:30:16,933 --> 01:30:18,213
Speaker 2: especially in your neighborhood.

1842
01:30:18,812 --> 01:30:21,452
Speaker 3: It's an article that you wrote on on substack metteath

1843
01:30:21,492 --> 01:30:23,772
Speaker 3: top substack dot com. But I've just and called me

1844
01:30:23,812 --> 01:30:25,652
Speaker 3: a bad co host, and maybe i am, but I've

1845
01:30:25,772 --> 01:30:27,413
Speaker 3: just read the conclusion.

1846
01:30:27,452 --> 01:30:29,092
Speaker 2: Oh it didn't do your research, Tyler.

1847
01:30:29,133 --> 01:30:31,253
Speaker 3: But the offender. I mean, this is going to be

1848
01:30:31,253 --> 01:30:33,452
Speaker 3: good when you tell the people. But the guy who

1849
01:30:33,532 --> 01:30:35,893
Speaker 3: was parking in your car park, I can't believe you

1850
01:30:35,973 --> 01:30:38,572
Speaker 3: got into a squabble with this guy. Anyway, that's coming

1851
01:30:38,652 --> 01:30:42,173
Speaker 3: up very shortly at Justin. How are you mate?

1852
01:30:43,532 --> 01:30:46,812
Speaker 27: Yeah good, that's I've just got to a story on driveway,

1853
01:30:46,812 --> 01:30:49,052
Speaker 27: a shared driveway situation and parking.

1854
01:30:49,253 --> 01:30:50,932
Speaker 13: Yep, yeah, yes.

1855
01:30:51,013 --> 01:30:53,692
Speaker 27: So this is where we're living down near Wellington and

1856
01:30:53,732 --> 01:30:57,012
Speaker 27: Caperin and we had our house was down a sheared driveway.

1857
01:30:57,652 --> 01:30:59,412
Speaker 27: We had like an whole kind of a house at

1858
01:30:59,412 --> 01:31:02,452
Speaker 27: the front a rental and there's this guy. He keeped

1859
01:31:02,452 --> 01:31:05,533
Speaker 27: parking at the station Wagan on the side of the driveway,

1860
01:31:05,612 --> 01:31:09,213
Speaker 27: so trying to get like we had an oys for

1861
01:31:09,253 --> 01:31:11,293
Speaker 27: people move it, and I just had it was like

1862
01:31:11,412 --> 01:31:15,932
Speaker 27: millimeter's clearance to try and squeeze past. So I went

1863
01:31:15,973 --> 01:31:18,532
Speaker 27: into had a word and said, you know, because you

1864
01:31:18,652 --> 01:31:20,772
Speaker 27: move your car and just park it down in your

1865
01:31:20,772 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 27: car park by your house.

1866
01:31:22,133 --> 01:31:22,612
Speaker 3: Reasonable.

1867
01:31:22,732 --> 01:31:25,772
Speaker 27: So he did that, yeah, And then so then he

1868
01:31:25,893 --> 01:31:27,852
Speaker 27: started used to get up early as a baker at

1869
01:31:27,893 --> 01:31:29,932
Speaker 27: three in the morning, and then they turned the lights

1870
01:31:29,973 --> 01:31:32,932
Speaker 27: on and they'd come through my son's window two year

1871
01:31:32,973 --> 01:31:35,253
Speaker 27: old at the time, and this carried on, and I

1872
01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:36,973
Speaker 27: kind of think I can't remember whether I had a

1873
01:31:37,013 --> 01:31:39,652
Speaker 27: word to him or not about that. Might have gone

1874
01:31:39,692 --> 01:31:41,333
Speaker 27: and said, look, because you please not just dip your

1875
01:31:41,412 --> 01:31:42,852
Speaker 27: lights when you leave. It will be good, you know,

1876
01:31:42,973 --> 01:31:46,772
Speaker 27: it's just not not the best. Anyway, We put the

1877
01:31:46,812 --> 01:31:48,892
Speaker 27: house on the market a few weeks later, I don't

1878
01:31:48,973 --> 01:31:52,293
Speaker 27: might have been months later. A few weeks. Every open

1879
01:31:52,372 --> 01:31:55,772
Speaker 27: home the partner of this guy or girl, she would

1880
01:31:55,772 --> 01:31:57,133
Speaker 27: blast the stereo.

1881
01:31:58,492 --> 01:31:58,652
Speaker 9: Name.

1882
01:31:58,893 --> 01:32:02,053
Speaker 2: So hang on a minute. Those those two quite reasonable

1883
01:32:02,173 --> 01:32:06,333
Speaker 2: requests that I assume you've you've delivered an appliit manner,

1884
01:32:06,572 --> 01:32:08,812
Speaker 2: have riled them up to your point that they are

1885
01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:11,532
Speaker 2: trying to do you in on the sale of your house,

1886
01:32:12,372 --> 01:32:13,892
Speaker 2: that they are bad people.

1887
01:32:14,812 --> 01:32:17,972
Speaker 27: They were just now he worked, She didn't. They are

1888
01:32:18,053 --> 01:32:21,692
Speaker 27: just feral, you know, kind of low low obviously, are

1889
01:32:21,772 --> 01:32:27,812
Speaker 27: just miserable people. So then we sold the house. Finally

1890
01:32:28,412 --> 01:32:31,173
Speaker 27: the removal guys come out and she comes out and

1891
01:32:31,293 --> 01:32:35,372
Speaker 27: goes psycho at them. They'd pull down the driveway and

1892
01:32:35,412 --> 01:32:38,092
Speaker 27: she came out and just starts yelling at the removal guys.

1893
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:38,692
Speaker 4: Wow.

1894
01:32:39,853 --> 01:32:42,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I guess just go psych Well,

1895
01:32:42,853 --> 01:32:44,532
Speaker 2: one thing that you can you can hold on to

1896
01:32:44,853 --> 01:32:47,772
Speaker 2: with that? Is that a you don't live by them anymore,

1897
01:32:48,253 --> 01:32:50,532
Speaker 2: but also that people like that their life is going

1898
01:32:50,612 --> 01:32:53,012
Speaker 2: to be miserable no matter who that moves in next door,

1899
01:32:53,093 --> 01:32:54,412
Speaker 2: no matter what happened exactly.

1900
01:32:55,372 --> 01:32:56,492
Speaker 27: They'll interesting, isn't it?

1901
01:32:56,572 --> 01:32:56,732
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1902
01:32:56,772 --> 01:32:57,333
Speaker 2: It is interesting.

1903
01:32:57,412 --> 01:33:01,092
Speaker 3: Well, clearly they are bad people, because anybody else, surely

1904
01:33:01,133 --> 01:33:03,293
Speaker 3: in that scenario, if you're a half decent person, you'd

1905
01:33:03,333 --> 01:33:05,572
Speaker 3: be late. I'm so sorry. I didn't know that floodlight

1906
01:33:05,652 --> 01:33:08,012
Speaker 3: was going into your boys room. I mean you just say,

1907
01:33:08,612 --> 01:33:10,532
Speaker 3: let's be good neighbors. I didn't know that was a problem.

1908
01:33:10,612 --> 01:33:14,452
Speaker 3: Let's move on. Yeah, far right, Kieran, you've got a

1909
01:33:14,492 --> 01:33:15,293
Speaker 3: parking situation.

1910
01:33:16,973 --> 01:33:24,133
Speaker 24: Yeah and again good Yeah, people burging over me driveways

1911
01:33:24,213 --> 01:33:26,572
Speaker 24: that brought me there so have been in at twenty

1912
01:33:26,572 --> 01:33:29,452
Speaker 24: four years, I'm up to two hundred and twenty people.

1913
01:33:30,893 --> 01:33:35,972
Speaker 24: There's been an issue there with the twenty foot boat,

1914
01:33:36,213 --> 01:33:38,692
Speaker 24: a truck with we hear us on the back of it,

1915
01:33:40,093 --> 01:33:47,012
Speaker 24: even the policewoman. If I see them, I go out

1916
01:33:47,053 --> 01:33:49,892
Speaker 24: and say something. In all the teams, what they say back,

1917
01:33:49,933 --> 01:33:53,173
Speaker 24: I usually it's not offered them of equally because they

1918
01:33:53,293 --> 01:33:58,973
Speaker 24: try to make it my problem and some of the

1919
01:33:59,093 --> 01:34:02,612
Speaker 24: money have to move needs equal with ten feet and

1920
01:34:02,692 --> 01:34:05,772
Speaker 24: they're not over me driveway, but they still not offered me.

1921
01:34:07,372 --> 01:34:10,972
Speaker 24: I live next door to a mechanic, and I can

1922
01:34:11,532 --> 01:34:13,772
Speaker 24: come out in the morning and will already be a

1923
01:34:13,853 --> 01:34:17,212
Speaker 24: car that know me driver at seven o'clock because they've

1924
01:34:17,293 --> 01:34:19,652
Speaker 24: dropped the car. They that missus has come and picked

1925
01:34:19,652 --> 01:34:20,053
Speaker 24: them up.

1926
01:34:20,452 --> 01:34:24,812
Speaker 2: And yeah, it happens a lot around mechanics. That's that's

1927
01:34:24,812 --> 01:34:28,612
Speaker 2: a classic situation is one not far from my house

1928
01:34:28,652 --> 01:34:30,412
Speaker 2: because there's so many cars coming in and they've got

1929
01:34:30,412 --> 01:34:33,972
Speaker 2: so little parking and this isn't your problem at all,

1930
01:34:34,333 --> 01:34:36,093
Speaker 2: but they've got to move the cars in and out.

1931
01:34:36,213 --> 01:34:38,093
Speaker 2: People are in a hurry they drop them off. I've

1932
01:34:38,093 --> 01:34:39,892
Speaker 2: been in that situation dropping a car off a mechanic.

1933
01:34:39,893 --> 01:34:42,053
Speaker 2: There's no whay to leave your car. You want to

1934
01:34:42,053 --> 01:34:44,093
Speaker 2: just go on and throw your keys. So you're in

1935
01:34:44,133 --> 01:34:47,932
Speaker 2: an unfortunate place there. But are you are you towing people? Karen?

1936
01:34:49,333 --> 01:34:49,572
Speaker 14: No?

1937
01:34:49,812 --> 01:34:55,812
Speaker 24: No, The thing is one to scooter and it's in

1938
01:34:55,893 --> 01:34:59,173
Speaker 24: the in the driveway. I leave it the halfway at

1939
01:34:59,213 --> 01:35:03,652
Speaker 24: the goroadway in somebody talk offence to me, snotting off

1940
01:35:03,652 --> 01:35:06,812
Speaker 24: with them. In some stage in the night they come

1941
01:35:06,853 --> 01:35:11,412
Speaker 24: along and just underneath the speedo you flip the hand up,

1942
01:35:11,612 --> 01:35:16,253
Speaker 24: busted all the pestalk off and rip the watering.

1943
01:35:17,652 --> 01:35:18,333
Speaker 9: Get it fixed.

1944
01:35:18,772 --> 01:35:22,492
Speaker 24: So I do anything, because if I do anything, they

1945
01:35:22,572 --> 01:35:25,532
Speaker 24: know we are a house to pick on me.

1946
01:35:25,772 --> 01:35:27,732
Speaker 3: What about having a chip to the mechanics. What did

1947
01:35:27,732 --> 01:35:29,293
Speaker 3: the mechanics say. Did you go and have a chip

1948
01:35:29,293 --> 01:35:31,052
Speaker 3: to them and say, guys, I know you're just running

1949
01:35:31,053 --> 01:35:32,692
Speaker 3: a business here, but we kind of a sort of

1950
01:35:32,692 --> 01:35:33,053
Speaker 3: carry on.

1951
01:35:34,652 --> 01:35:35,012
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1952
01:35:34,933 --> 01:35:36,973
Speaker 24: Well, I usually go out to them and say do

1953
01:35:37,053 --> 01:35:41,013
Speaker 24: you know anything about this car? Oerion and known? But

1954
01:35:41,133 --> 01:35:44,452
Speaker 24: they look at the keys and oh yeah, yea, and

1955
01:35:44,572 --> 01:35:48,652
Speaker 24: they go and move it for me. But sometimes they

1956
01:35:48,772 --> 01:35:53,132
Speaker 24: usually due here take away at the end of the street.

1957
01:35:54,412 --> 01:35:56,892
Speaker 24: I watched the cart was eve for half an here.

1958
01:35:57,053 --> 01:36:00,173
Speaker 24: I just put the nose underneath the windscreen wiper and

1959
01:36:00,293 --> 01:36:03,932
Speaker 24: the dude came walking down the street. Yeah, he wasn't

1960
01:36:03,973 --> 01:36:05,012
Speaker 24: at the mechanic place.

1961
01:36:05,173 --> 01:36:06,133
Speaker 22: He was there for it.

1962
01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:10,133
Speaker 24: Maybe with the we hear so on the back of

1963
01:36:10,213 --> 01:36:16,093
Speaker 24: the truck. There's a bus company just down from me,

1964
01:36:16,893 --> 01:36:19,293
Speaker 24: and she left two bus certainly drive away and she

1965
01:36:19,532 --> 01:36:21,732
Speaker 24: used to go away and do the school runs.

1966
01:36:23,732 --> 01:36:26,652
Speaker 2: Oh well, all the best for that going forward, sounds

1967
01:36:26,692 --> 01:36:28,172
Speaker 2: like a complicated situation.

1968
01:36:28,412 --> 01:36:30,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully, I hope things keep it if you're on

1969
01:36:30,532 --> 01:36:30,932
Speaker 3: that front.

1970
01:36:30,973 --> 01:36:35,013
Speaker 2: But also snotting off. I haven't heard that saying snotting off.

1971
01:36:35,133 --> 01:36:37,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean way to say it.

1972
01:36:37,452 --> 01:36:39,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what he means by snotting off. I'm

1973
01:36:39,652 --> 01:36:41,333
Speaker 2: going to use that off with a few people.

1974
01:36:42,492 --> 01:36:46,812
Speaker 3: Hundred eighty Matt's got an issue with well had an issue. Actually,

1975
01:36:46,853 --> 01:36:49,492
Speaker 3: there was a resolution on this about someone parking in

1976
01:36:49,572 --> 01:36:52,532
Speaker 3: his car park. Decided not to tow this person. Ended

1977
01:36:52,572 --> 01:36:54,812
Speaker 3: up that was a probably good decision that you didn't

1978
01:36:54,893 --> 01:36:56,213
Speaker 3: call the tow truck on this person.

1979
01:36:56,572 --> 01:36:59,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because it turned out what happens in

1980
01:36:59,732 --> 01:37:03,253
Speaker 2: the end. After leaving a note and then a couple

1981
01:37:03,293 --> 01:37:05,213
Speaker 2: of other things, I didn't go for the huge amount

1982
01:37:05,213 --> 01:37:07,293
Speaker 2: of revenge I was thinking of. I didn't shove a

1983
01:37:07,333 --> 01:37:12,053
Speaker 2: banana up the exulting like that, or mbia wheelibin on

1984
01:37:12,213 --> 01:37:14,732
Speaker 2: the car or anything. I did write little note on it.

1985
01:37:14,812 --> 01:37:17,293
Speaker 3: He thought through though the options on the table.

1986
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:19,333
Speaker 2: Then I thought, I'll just time it so I can

1987
01:37:19,412 --> 01:37:22,133
Speaker 2: do the honorable thing and have a chat to the

1988
01:37:22,173 --> 01:37:25,093
Speaker 2: person to just explain it. When I did, it was

1989
01:37:25,173 --> 01:37:28,452
Speaker 2: an elderly gentleman who had just got the park wrong.

1990
01:37:29,013 --> 01:37:31,333
Speaker 2: How old I'm going to say, I don't know. I

1991
01:37:31,372 --> 01:37:34,892
Speaker 2: didn't look at his birth stificate. He felt like nineties,

1992
01:37:35,253 --> 01:37:37,133
Speaker 2: and he was a very lovely guy, and he was

1993
01:37:37,173 --> 01:37:40,173
Speaker 2: embarrassed about it and he just got it wrong. So

1994
01:37:40,732 --> 01:37:43,452
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I didn't toe his car because that

1995
01:37:43,812 --> 01:37:46,133
Speaker 2: four hundred bucks or whatever it would for the car,

1996
01:37:47,612 --> 01:37:50,812
Speaker 2: or done something terrible. I would have felt so very bad.

1997
01:37:50,812 --> 01:37:54,933
Speaker 3: Imagine the headline Matt Heath radio personality, he tows the

1998
01:37:55,053 --> 01:37:56,973
Speaker 3: car of an elderly gentleman. It would have been a

1999
01:37:57,013 --> 01:37:57,612
Speaker 3: bad look, mate.

2000
01:37:57,732 --> 01:37:59,812
Speaker 2: So I guess the thing is, and that's what Karen

2001
01:37:59,933 --> 01:38:02,293
Speaker 2: was saying. There was a bit of snotting off from Karen,

2002
01:38:02,412 --> 01:38:04,893
Speaker 2: But the thing is the first thing you gotta do

2003
01:38:05,013 --> 01:38:08,213
Speaker 2: is going try and engage with the person. Either it's

2004
01:38:08,213 --> 01:38:12,372
Speaker 2: a note or was suggested riding on the windscreen of

2005
01:38:12,412 --> 01:38:12,972
Speaker 2: the Vivid.

2006
01:38:12,973 --> 01:38:15,612
Speaker 3: Yeah Parking dramas. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

2007
01:38:15,812 --> 01:38:18,532
Speaker 3: is the number of call. It is eighteen to four.

2008
01:38:20,293 --> 01:38:23,213
Speaker 1: When you walk your new home of Afternoon Talk and

2009
01:38:23,412 --> 01:38:26,932
Speaker 1: even Tyler Adams Afternoon Call, Oh eight hundred and eighty

2010
01:38:27,013 --> 01:38:28,732
Speaker 1: ten eighty News Talk said.

2011
01:38:29,372 --> 01:38:30,412
Speaker 3: It's a quarter to four.

2012
01:38:30,612 --> 01:38:33,372
Speaker 2: We're discussing parking dramas. Dan, you've got one.

2013
01:38:35,412 --> 01:38:37,053
Speaker 3: Get ideah, can I mate?

2014
01:38:37,093 --> 01:38:42,053
Speaker 15: You're oh, so where all of there's four of us

2015
01:38:42,093 --> 01:38:43,692
Speaker 15: in the house. All four of us got cars, right,

2016
01:38:44,173 --> 01:38:46,452
Speaker 15: So when we parked in the front of our house,

2017
01:38:46,492 --> 01:38:49,652
Speaker 15: it pretty much fills up our frontage. So someone always

2018
01:38:49,692 --> 01:38:52,692
Speaker 15: just end up parking across the driveway, which is cool driveway, yep.

2019
01:38:53,093 --> 01:38:55,812
Speaker 15: But when whenever we get a visitor, there's no do

2020
01:38:55,893 --> 01:38:57,892
Speaker 15: you want to do territory, there's no real real estate

2021
01:38:58,173 --> 01:38:59,812
Speaker 15: in front of our place to park, So you've parked

2022
01:38:59,853 --> 01:39:02,492
Speaker 15: somewhere along the streets. An old duct lives across the road,

2023
01:39:02,532 --> 01:39:05,772
Speaker 15: God bless it, but who doesn't own a car, and

2024
01:39:05,893 --> 01:39:09,452
Speaker 15: if you park in front of her house, she kicks off.

2025
01:39:09,612 --> 01:39:10,492
Speaker 13: It's my driveway.

2026
01:39:10,492 --> 01:39:11,732
Speaker 12: You can't pack in front of my house.

2027
01:39:11,612 --> 01:39:13,333
Speaker 15: Blah blah, all that kind of jazz. And you try

2028
01:39:13,412 --> 01:39:15,333
Speaker 15: to mean with it as best you can. And we're

2029
01:39:15,492 --> 01:39:18,293
Speaker 15: going along for quite a while, and so we're to

2030
01:39:18,412 --> 01:39:20,452
Speaker 15: visit a guy parked in front of ther place. She

2031
01:39:20,532 --> 01:39:22,692
Speaker 15: came out kicked off, like, well, it's not parked in

2032
01:39:22,732 --> 01:39:24,772
Speaker 15: front of the driveway or just you know, just in

2033
01:39:24,853 --> 01:39:27,612
Speaker 15: that real estate. It's in front of her house. And

2034
01:39:27,732 --> 01:39:31,612
Speaker 15: then the next day we ended up getting one of

2035
01:39:31,692 --> 01:39:33,372
Speaker 15: us got a council ticket for parking in front of

2036
01:39:33,412 --> 01:39:34,092
Speaker 15: our own driveway.

2037
01:39:34,253 --> 01:39:37,452
Speaker 3: What hey, how does that work? It's a public road.

2038
01:39:37,492 --> 01:39:38,492
Speaker 2: I've seen the seven before.

2039
01:39:39,293 --> 01:39:42,053
Speaker 15: Apparently it's the thing. It's just a council thing. Even

2040
01:39:42,093 --> 01:39:45,093
Speaker 15: though it's your driveway. You're not allowed to park in

2041
01:39:45,133 --> 01:39:47,492
Speaker 15: front of a driveway. It had never happened, like in

2042
01:39:47,572 --> 01:39:49,372
Speaker 15: the street, nothing ever happened. And all of a sudden,

2043
01:39:49,412 --> 01:39:52,173
Speaker 15: out of the blue, after this interaction with the Old Duck,

2044
01:39:52,732 --> 01:39:54,572
Speaker 15: council member came down the road ticket.

2045
01:39:57,572 --> 01:40:00,172
Speaker 2: Just ask your quite question. N when when when you're parking,

2046
01:40:00,253 --> 01:40:02,372
Speaker 2: when people that are visiting you are parking in front

2047
01:40:02,412 --> 01:40:04,892
Speaker 2: of the Old Duck's house, are you parking across her

2048
01:40:05,053 --> 01:40:06,812
Speaker 2: driveway or just in front of her house?

2049
01:40:06,933 --> 01:40:06,973
Speaker 6: No?

2050
01:40:07,133 --> 01:40:10,052
Speaker 2: Not at all, No, No, So then what's her beef?

2051
01:40:11,652 --> 01:40:11,692
Speaker 12: Was?

2052
01:40:11,772 --> 01:40:12,532
Speaker 15: Where she's going off?

2053
01:40:12,532 --> 01:40:13,732
Speaker 14: It's her Bobby can't pack there.

2054
01:40:14,333 --> 01:40:15,333
Speaker 3: The curtain twitches.

2055
01:40:15,492 --> 01:40:18,093
Speaker 9: You know, you don't own what.

2056
01:40:20,253 --> 01:40:21,852
Speaker 2: She's got a strange view of the world that you

2057
01:40:21,973 --> 01:40:23,973
Speaker 2: can't park in front of someone's house on the on

2058
01:40:24,093 --> 01:40:24,852
Speaker 2: the on the road.

2059
01:40:25,853 --> 01:40:28,492
Speaker 15: In that incident, when one of our friends was there

2060
01:40:28,973 --> 01:40:30,852
Speaker 15: and she was kicking off of him. There's another person

2061
01:40:30,973 --> 01:40:33,053
Speaker 15: just walking down the road with a dog, and that

2062
01:40:33,253 --> 01:40:35,093
Speaker 15: person kicked off at the old duck, saying what do

2063
01:40:35,133 --> 01:40:35,772
Speaker 15: you want about lady?

2064
01:40:35,772 --> 01:40:36,652
Speaker 23: You don't even own the one.

2065
01:40:38,053 --> 01:40:42,812
Speaker 3: And obviously have you tried to extend an olive brunch

2066
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:45,173
Speaker 3: or you know, just just taking her a week peace

2067
01:40:45,213 --> 01:40:47,532
Speaker 3: offering and say, hey, we started off on the wrong

2068
01:40:47,612 --> 01:40:48,013
Speaker 3: foot here.

2069
01:40:49,213 --> 01:40:52,173
Speaker 15: Well we just would basically where we're come and someone

2070
01:40:52,213 --> 01:40:54,372
Speaker 15: comes around, we just don't park over the beast. You

2071
01:40:54,452 --> 01:40:56,532
Speaker 15: can't park down a ways because she can out of

2072
01:40:56,572 --> 01:40:59,492
Speaker 15: the way. Doesn't seem to be the most It's like

2073
01:40:59,572 --> 01:41:01,532
Speaker 15: every street's got that one grumpy person.

2074
01:41:02,893 --> 01:41:05,452
Speaker 2: Now do you think do you think it was Do

2075
01:41:05,532 --> 01:41:06,852
Speaker 2: you think it was the old Do you think the

2076
01:41:06,893 --> 01:41:10,333
Speaker 2: old dark ranger rang rang up on your driveway? Do

2077
01:41:10,333 --> 01:41:11,412
Speaker 2: you think it was her that dobbed you in?

2078
01:41:12,173 --> 01:41:14,372
Speaker 15: Well, well, one of us at the house to be

2079
01:41:14,532 --> 01:41:17,293
Speaker 15: in our real estate, that's the street. Someone always has

2080
01:41:17,333 --> 01:41:18,972
Speaker 15: to park in front of the driveway. Yeah, and we've

2081
01:41:19,013 --> 01:41:22,173
Speaker 15: been there four years, right, Yeah, nothing ever happened. The

2082
01:41:22,293 --> 01:41:25,532
Speaker 15: day after that incident, council comes out. I think it's

2083
01:41:25,532 --> 01:41:28,173
Speaker 15: one of us because and the thing about we can't

2084
01:41:28,213 --> 01:41:29,652
Speaker 15: park in the house. If we park in your house,

2085
01:41:29,692 --> 01:41:32,852
Speaker 15: in theoretic can wear in somebody else's footprint. So we're

2086
01:41:32,893 --> 01:41:34,412
Speaker 15: trying to be good by just staying in front of

2087
01:41:34,452 --> 01:41:36,612
Speaker 15: our real estate. So if we don't park in front

2088
01:41:36,652 --> 01:41:38,772
Speaker 15: of our driver, we're literally parking in front of the

2089
01:41:38,812 --> 01:41:39,412
Speaker 15: old duckshouse.

2090
01:41:39,492 --> 01:41:41,372
Speaker 3: It was definitely her. I mean, t a b Odds

2091
01:41:41,412 --> 01:41:43,253
Speaker 3: would be a dollar ozh five that it was her.

2092
01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:47,932
Speaker 2: But I'm always I'm aways quite impressed with these people

2093
01:41:48,133 --> 01:41:50,333
Speaker 2: that you know, like you say, the old Duck, that

2094
01:41:50,732 --> 01:41:54,052
Speaker 2: that bolshie, and that that they're willing to start a scrap.

2095
01:41:54,173 --> 01:41:56,053
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got four cars parked out in the

2096
01:41:56,093 --> 01:41:57,812
Speaker 2: front of your house. There's a few people involved on

2097
01:41:57,853 --> 01:42:01,092
Speaker 2: the other side of the argument. So she's she's willing

2098
01:42:01,213 --> 01:42:03,932
Speaker 2: to fire up against some pretty big odds.

2099
01:42:05,093 --> 01:42:07,412
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, it's begin Like I said, you know, this

2100
01:42:07,492 --> 01:42:09,333
Speaker 15: is it one person and you're it lives down the street.

2101
01:42:09,572 --> 01:42:12,612
Speaker 15: There's that grumpy person shaksfast at moon the whole time.

2102
01:42:12,973 --> 01:42:14,692
Speaker 15: It'll be your rubbish bin is not aligned? Is it's

2103
01:42:14,692 --> 01:42:16,732
Speaker 15: a wrong rubbish on the wrong day. It is a

2104
01:42:16,732 --> 01:42:18,612
Speaker 15: bit of rubbish. They walk past the wall. Jeez, you

2105
01:42:18,612 --> 01:42:21,852
Speaker 15: should you've got a broken peeling on your fence. There

2106
01:42:22,053 --> 01:42:24,732
Speaker 15: should give that, you know, that person like, yeah, okay, cool, bro.

2107
01:42:24,973 --> 01:42:26,852
Speaker 2: Well, well once again you've got to you've got to

2108
01:42:26,893 --> 01:42:30,293
Speaker 2: take that view in life that thankfully you're not here

2109
01:42:30,572 --> 01:42:33,732
Speaker 2: and that you're living in a fun situation where you've

2110
01:42:33,772 --> 01:42:35,652
Speaker 2: got people coming around to visit so many that they

2111
01:42:35,732 --> 01:42:37,133
Speaker 2: have to park on the other side of the road

2112
01:42:37,612 --> 01:42:39,732
Speaker 2: and you've got you know, four cars in your yard.

2113
01:42:39,853 --> 01:42:42,772
Speaker 2: So in life, you're definitely winning over over over here.

2114
01:42:42,973 --> 01:42:44,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks very much to you. I mean there is

2115
01:42:44,893 --> 01:42:47,253
Speaker 3: quite often there's usually one right the colonel of the

2116
01:42:47,333 --> 01:42:49,892
Speaker 3: Culd de sac, or or one person in the street

2117
01:42:50,013 --> 01:42:53,293
Speaker 3: that takes it upon themselves to maintain what they they

2118
01:42:53,452 --> 01:42:55,452
Speaker 3: think is a letter of the law. And it sounds

2119
01:42:55,492 --> 01:42:58,333
Speaker 3: like this old duck maybe too much time on her house.

2120
01:42:58,532 --> 01:43:01,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we've heard snotting off today and old duck.

2121
01:43:01,372 --> 01:43:03,213
Speaker 2: These are two expressions that I'm not that familiar with.

2122
01:43:03,372 --> 01:43:06,933
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, but you know, she's not the

2123
01:43:07,013 --> 01:43:09,053
Speaker 2: letter of the law because you are to park on

2124
01:43:09,213 --> 01:43:11,173
Speaker 2: the on the road. That's one of the rules of

2125
01:43:11,612 --> 01:43:12,692
Speaker 2: you know, we all pay our rates.

2126
01:43:12,933 --> 01:43:15,652
Speaker 3: Just can someone can you explain to me the situation

2127
01:43:15,812 --> 01:43:18,612
Speaker 3: so he was parked in his driveway and he still

2128
01:43:18,692 --> 01:43:19,173
Speaker 3: got fined.

2129
01:43:19,213 --> 01:43:20,253
Speaker 15: He wasn't on the.

2130
01:43:20,253 --> 01:43:22,732
Speaker 2: Foot He's across his own driveway.

2131
01:43:23,333 --> 01:43:25,293
Speaker 3: So right, so you've got the footpath and then the

2132
01:43:25,372 --> 01:43:28,213
Speaker 3: car is across the footpath and the driveway. Oh, I

2133
01:43:28,372 --> 01:43:31,252
Speaker 3: see what you mean, horizontally over his driveway.

2134
01:43:31,452 --> 01:43:33,372
Speaker 2: That this happened to me when I was working at Donaldson,

2135
01:43:33,412 --> 01:43:36,213
Speaker 2: Derry and Needing many many years ago. I'd park the

2136
01:43:36,253 --> 01:43:38,492
Speaker 2: truck in front of and cover our driveway and then

2137
01:43:38,692 --> 01:43:42,772
Speaker 2: a parking person would come and ticket it. And you'd say,

2138
01:43:42,812 --> 01:43:44,812
Speaker 2: but I'm doing it to unload, and they go, well,

2139
01:43:44,812 --> 01:43:46,412
Speaker 2: you're blocking the wave, so I'm only blocking the way

2140
01:43:46,412 --> 01:43:48,692
Speaker 2: for myself. Yeah, So that is the rule. You can't.

2141
01:43:48,933 --> 01:43:50,732
Speaker 2: You just can't park in front of driveways with it's

2142
01:43:50,772 --> 01:43:51,532
Speaker 2: your driveway or not.

2143
01:43:51,612 --> 01:43:54,133
Speaker 3: It's a crazy world, Man ten to four Back in

2144
01:43:54,173 --> 01:43:54,572
Speaker 3: a month.

2145
01:43:56,333 --> 01:43:59,692
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2146
01:44:00,053 --> 01:44:03,973
Speaker 1: everything in between. Math and Tyler Alliams Afternoons You for

2147
01:44:04,133 --> 01:44:05,652
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2148
01:44:07,213 --> 01:44:10,092
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2149
01:44:10,772 --> 01:44:12,452
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2150
01:44:12,532 --> 01:44:14,692
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2151
01:44:14,772 --> 01:44:17,412
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2152
01:44:17,492 --> 01:44:19,532
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Speaker 28: find out more details about what actually happened before the

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Speaker 28: christ Church realized that agent was killed. Plus black Caps

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Speaker 28: Getting the answers you deserve.

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Speaker 4: Heather Duticy Ellen drive with One New Zealand next on News.

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Speaker 3: Dogs MB Get a Race.

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Speaker 4: Get a guys, what do you got for us?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, So, basically we live down like a one way

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Speaker 23: one way street and right next to our property, we

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Speaker 23: have like a long driveway that goes to three properties

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Speaker 23: and they're quite large sections.

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Speaker 22: And basically there's one of the guys.

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Speaker 5: He's quite an angry guy, but.

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Speaker 23: He looks after he looks after a like a car

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Speaker 23: for a friend or something like that, right, And but

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Speaker 23: they parked they parked it right in front of our

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Speaker 23: like on our driveway, like just enough that we couldn't

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Speaker 23: pull him properly into our driveway driveway.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, And so I had asked him, hey, you know,

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Speaker 23: do you think that you could move that? You've got

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Speaker 23: heaps of parking space on your own property. To to

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Speaker 23: just park it up, especially if it's you know, if

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Speaker 23: it's not you know, being driven, and it was going

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Speaker 23: to be part there if he said, it's going to

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Speaker 23: be parked there for a month until his friend comes.

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Speaker 23: And unfortunately I was a little bit of a Karen

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Speaker 23: and I did call the counsel and then they ended

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Speaker 23: up ticketing it, and then they ended up ticketing it

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Speaker 23: for no waft, no region as well as illegally parted.

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Speaker 23: And then he came over and knocking on our door asking, hey,

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Speaker 23: did we did we call through? You know, did we complain?

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Speaker 23: And then my wife said, yeah, we actually did, and

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Speaker 23: then he just blue has lowdown asked.

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Speaker 2: So hang on, But you have asked him, You've said

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Speaker 2: would it would it be okay? You've come in there

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Speaker 2: in a reasonable fashion and said would it be okay

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Speaker 2: if you didn't block our access to our own property

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't done that. So I mean he must

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Speaker 2: know in his heart of hearts that he's in the

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Speaker 2: wrong here.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, surely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And especially if you're running a no warrant, no

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Speaker 2: ridgi's situation, you want to be very careful where your park.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't be chucking stones in that scenario. But again

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Speaker 3: it goes back to to me, if someone's rude to you,

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Speaker 3: then you're rude back as And that guy was clearly

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Speaker 3: being an a hole there. You tried to do the

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Speaker 3: right thing. He threw it back in your face at

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Speaker 3: that point, press the button man go nuclear on him.

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Speaker 3: And you did that, and I say good on you.

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Speaker 23: Six months on though hasn't happened since.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good man, good resolution.

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Speaker 2: One back for the good guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that is us for today.

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Speaker 2: I was speaking of good guys last week. We were

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Speaker 2: talking about cobblers and homemade stuff, you know, stuff in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand good quality and spending some money to buy

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Speaker 2: staff yep. I was down at the City Farmers Market

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Speaker 2: at Britomart on Saturday and I came across these people

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Speaker 2: that make canvas bags called GA bags. Give me a

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Speaker 2: zealand there you go.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, nice man operation is it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, there's a man and his wife and their homemaker.

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Speaker 2: They're making the bags themselves and selling them in the

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Speaker 2: market and you can look them up online. GA Bags zip.

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Speaker 2: But I thought i'd give them a shout out because

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Speaker 2: I brought a quality bag off them. It was a

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Speaker 2: good price, so well made, handmade in New Zealand. And

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Speaker 2: you know we're talking about people buying things on Timu.

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Speaker 2: I bought this and I feel so good about it.

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Speaker 2: What a great bag. So I thought i'd give them

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Speaker 2: a shout out. They were lovely people too.

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