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Speaker 1: Now if you're watching The Voice Australia, you'll be following

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Speaker 1: Cassie Henderson. Of course, she first heard television way back

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Speaker 1: in The X Factor. This is eleven years ago. Debut

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Speaker 1: single was twenty twenty. Then in twenty three she quit

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Speaker 1: the day job and decided music full time was the

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Speaker 1: way to go. Anyway, she is brought the guitar and

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Speaker 1: she's with us. Cassie Henderson joins this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, thank you for having me, not at.

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Speaker 1: All great pleasure. So we know you currently on The

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Speaker 1: X Factor. I don't want to dwell on that on

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Speaker 1: the Voice rather than it started out the expected But

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Speaker 1: the Voice is that completed and sorted and can you

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Speaker 1: reveal something gripping as to what happened?

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Speaker 2: I can't reveal too much. I can't talk about any

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Speaker 2: honey ed stuff. But we've just finished the Battles round

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Speaker 2: and I got through that, which means I'm onto the

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Speaker 2: next week's episode, which I'm very excited about. It's been

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Speaker 2: really cool to be able to watch the show with

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Speaker 2: my family and friends as if it was the first

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Speaker 2: time happening, even though I know what's coming.

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Speaker 1: But what was the contrast to the expector.

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Speaker 2: I think, to be honest, for me, it felt very

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Speaker 2: similar because I just like being on stage and it

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Speaker 2: was just that again. But I now tackle things like

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Speaker 2: this with a lot more a lot more growth, Like

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Speaker 2: I have worked at this my craft for a really

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Speaker 2: really long time. So when I step onto a stage

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Speaker 2: that's after months and months of practicing. Is when I

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Speaker 2: was fourteen, it was probably after a couple weeks of

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Speaker 2: practicing the songs.

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Speaker 1: As an experience. If you were looking for growth and

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Speaker 1: advice and whatever, does that give it to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think it does. To be honest, like I, it

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Speaker 2: is you were diving into the deepest end of the poll.

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Speaker 2: When you step onto a stage like that, there's a

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Speaker 2: huge amount of pressure. There's cameras, there's all sorts of

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Speaker 2: people telling you to do all sorts of things. So

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Speaker 2: if you can manage the nerves and manage the adrenaline,

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Speaker 2: then you know that you can probably take on most things.

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Speaker 1: So what's it about for you? Is it about just exposure?

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Speaker 2: I think I think TV for me kind of feels

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Speaker 2: like the handshake, right, It's what happens before you get

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Speaker 2: into the relationship and bring people into my world of music,

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Speaker 2: which is super, super important, but it was also just

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Speaker 2: the biggest mountain I could climb. It was the biggest

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Speaker 2: opportunity for me to grow and rise up and test myself.

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Speaker 1: Really, so, how many people are out there, I mean

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Speaker 1: that want to do what you are? I mean the.

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Speaker 2: Thousands, thousands, right, thousands? And I get messages a lot

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Speaker 2: from young people in New Zealand saying that I inspire them,

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Speaker 2: which is always a huge dream. But it's almost a

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Speaker 2: little bit bittersweet because I know how long I've been

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Speaker 2: working at this and I know how long I haven't

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Speaker 2: had success for and it's difficult. It's a really tough road.

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Speaker 2: It's a really tough gig. But it's always been my

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Speaker 2: passion and it's what I love most in the world.

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Speaker 2: So it's no question because.

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Speaker 1: Between the expector and the voice, you stepped away from music.

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Speaker 1: Why was that valuable? And do you have any regrets

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Speaker 1: around that or was that a learning experience?

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Speaker 2: It's hard to have regrets on that because of where

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Speaker 2: I am right now. It was valuable in that I

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Speaker 2: got to live my life for four years. I got

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Speaker 2: to go to university, I got to have relationships and

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Speaker 2: do really normal kid staff. But I think as an artist,

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Speaker 2: there's always time pressure on your age and old you

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Speaker 2: can be and be a pop star. So I have

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Speaker 2: moments where I'm like, I wish, I wish I got

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Speaker 2: into this earlier, but I wouldn't be able to write

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Speaker 2: the songs I write today if I hadn't had that,

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Speaker 2: So no regret.

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Speaker 1: So you're better now than you were obviously an age

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Speaker 1: just help with that. But experience, I assume also also

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Speaker 1: helps with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just taking it seriously, you know, like I

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Speaker 2: think when you're fourteen, you kind of you kind of

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Speaker 2: take everything on the nose and run with it. Whereas

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Speaker 2: now this is my job, you know, like this is

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Speaker 2: my passion and my love, but it's also my job,

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Speaker 2: and it's much more than being on a stage and

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Speaker 2: writing songs. It's a business as well, and that's always been,

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Speaker 2: you know, not my favorite part of it.

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Speaker 1: But well, it pays the bills. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the day. You've had a lot of radio exposure that

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Speaker 1: your songs have been played a lot on radio. Does

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Speaker 1: that pay the bills? Is radio? The key is streaming,

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Speaker 1: the key is performing live in front of a festival,

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Speaker 1: the key, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's everything, And if you're not doing everything. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty hard to make a living off of this career.

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Speaker 2: Radio has been amazing and it's like in terms of

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Speaker 2: exposure around New Zealand, it's been amazing as well. But

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Speaker 2: I think you kind of have to spin all the

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Speaker 2: plates at the same time to get to where you

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Speaker 2: want to go and be really aligned in that growth.

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Speaker 1: So what's the magic do you think out of the business?

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Speaker 1: The voice is a good example. So I saw your

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Speaker 1: battle with Gemma. Now both of you seem to me

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Speaker 1: really good, thank you, But well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what does the talent

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Speaker 1: naturally rise to the top or is there an element

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Speaker 1: of crap shoot slash luck in that.

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Speaker 2: I think I have this theory about luck that you

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Speaker 2: can be the best singer in the room or the

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Speaker 2: best songwriter in the room, and if you don't have luck,

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Speaker 2: you're probably not going to rise to the top. Some

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Speaker 2: that's just I personally think the way the world works,

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Speaker 2: which is really unfortunate because then you get some incredible

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Speaker 2: singers and songwriters that we will never hear in the

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Speaker 2: public eye. So I'm really grateful because I have been

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Speaker 2: really lucky. But I do think you can't get luck

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Speaker 2: if you're not working hard out the other end. So

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Speaker 2: Jimma was a wonderful case because she is a brilliant

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Speaker 2: songwriter and singer. And during that week we worked our

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Speaker 2: butts off and you could see that in her as

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Speaker 2: a nineteen eight and was.

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Speaker 1: Some camaraderie or we hate each other.

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Speaker 2: Massively, we're we're best mates. It was actually really really sweet.

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Speaker 2: At the end of that show, the end of the song,

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Speaker 2: you can see us just laughing at each other because really,

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Speaker 2: what the heck?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, so where where's the music? Hat?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What are we dropping? When's it dropping? How's it dropping?

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Speaker 1: What color? What color are we up to?

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Speaker 2: Yep, so we've done pink and yellow so far. The

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Speaker 2: next EP is called the Blue Chapter, which is really exciting,

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Speaker 2: and there's a couple surprises sprinkled in in there in

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Speaker 2: the middle as well. But still working on finalizing the

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Speaker 2: Blue Chapter at the moment. And obviously the voice is

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Speaker 2: my priority right now, and so you'll see more music

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Speaker 2: from me very soon.

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Speaker 1: You brought your guitar in, I did, and a spare guitar. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and it's not me playing you brought it, told you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've brought a person in with you? So what what

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Speaker 1: are we going to play?

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Speaker 2: We're going to be playing one of my favorite songs

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Speaker 2: of my own called Admit to That.

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Speaker 1: Cassie Henderson's with us along with Alex who joins us

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Speaker 1: on the guitar and your your little Martin guitar, because

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Speaker 1: we're video this and people will see how little Martin could.

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Speaker 1: Now what concerns me initially? As you two have never

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Speaker 1: done this, what you're about to do? So as we

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Speaker 1: as we entered, the level of confidence is high.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good faith and belief.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need, faith and belief. All right, hit it, hit.

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Speaker 3: sweet companionship to ungres. I'm mad with drinking.

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Speaker 4: I hear voices in side.

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Speaker 3: For all slowly ship of words, cereal.

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Speaker 5: Din for convenience.

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Speaker 3: They know, they know, they know, falling for.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know, felt.

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Speaker 3: Like Comma science online dead by searching.

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Speaker 5: For some sort of your.

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Speaker 3: Can't find a comic call that grads may of.

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Speaker 5: Nothing yours just like goes through room my sus.

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Speaker 4: Stumbling around and answering you, looking for evident.

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Speaker 2: Understanding. You won't you as fast and presentence.

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Speaker 4: What's hiding in the pauses of your like common sciences.

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Speaker 4: Don't mind a bed searching for.

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Speaker 6: Some side of car, can't find your came.

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Speaker 5: Gold reads me. You're not being yours. Laments to that,

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Speaker 5: aliments to that. Had sweating on my salvation. You don't

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Speaker 5: know speed for can't shame the finder. Vein saves me

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Speaker 5: from nothing years he I know no, Lina, I know no, no.

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Speaker 5: I know lies down and straightly and try joy shut me.

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Speaker 4: Don't spend on my exime talking too shorts all day.

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Speaker 5: You watch me bad here right will stay?

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Speaker 4: Carl listen bad Jay, shake this day right down it

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Speaker 4: to Marcy.

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Speaker 5: I had to say you of me.

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Speaker 6: I love you anyway, I love you anyway, I'll be

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Speaker 6: I love you anyway.

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Speaker 1: Well, for people who have not done that before, that's

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Speaker 1: really good. So let's just do it one more time.

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Speaker 1: Just joking. Lovely, so much lovely to see you. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming and we'll catch up again soon. Appreciate it

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Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for having us great pleasure. Cassie Henderson.

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