1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: This is Phil Breeden with Nelsey Barbecue and you're listening 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: to Barbecue Base. 3 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome back to Competition Time from Barbecue Base, the 4 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: podcast for those that love a little low and slow 5 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: in their lives, Awesome, hot and fast because we are 6 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: talking competition. I'm Alex Lawson, captain of the Illustrious Beginning's 7 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Team and your esteemed host, and I need to remind 8 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: you that this episode of Competition Time is brought to 9 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: you by the legendary New Zealanders at Jack daniels iHeartRadio, 10 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: run Manque, Hunting and Fishing Hot Valley. 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It's quite humbling to 28 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: get the invite and yeah, that's cool to have a check. 29 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I think you've done it. You've been doing quite 30 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: well this year and in the last year and a 31 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: bit to not need to be humble. You've deserved your 32 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: appearance on on this wonderful, wonderful podcast. But yeah, I'm 33 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm pretty keen to against this for you. I've got 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: some questions I want to ask you. But why don't you, 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: for everybody out there, give us a little bit of 36 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: an intro who you are, tell us about the team, 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: what you compete in, how you got there, that kind 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: of stuff. 39 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So on, Pete, I'm captain of rollin 40 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: Cold Barbecue, so our team consists of myself. Yeah, good mate. 41 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: Sheep Shan Stewart. He's my fire management man, looks after 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: my pitts, and he's also a bit of a voice 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: of reason, so to speak. And we've also got Sheep's 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: lovely wife, Chryl. She does all their passley boxes and 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: looks after sort of just you know, dishes, tidying up 46 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: after us and whatnot. So yeah, that's just literally just 47 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: the three of us. And obviously I've done a few 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: comps solo and the other two can't get there for 49 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: family reasons, but that's fine, and yeah, we we battle 50 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: on and we have ups and downs, but yeah, we 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: do our best. 52 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: And you're mostly ends Uba only for rolling coal. Any 53 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: sca thrown in that. You do a little steak every 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: now and again, don't you. 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: I threw my hand into steak last year and had 56 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 3: a couple of goes at it and managed to bring 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: a trophy home. So I quit while I was ahead, 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: and that was there. 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: You know, quit, Well, your head is a good thing, 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: and obviously you know in your house. I guess are 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: you even allowed to do ancillary? Are you allowed? Or 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: is it just a bad idea all around? When you're up 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: against the legend of ancillaries there's Charlotte, your wife. 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so when I come home and I see 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: some of the things that she's creating, and I've come 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: home to some absolute things, I can assure you, and yeah, 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: I just look at it and I don't know where 68 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: it comes from or where it's going to lead to 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: or whatnot. I just just looks amazing and it tastes good, 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: and I leave it at that. I'm just, yeah, I'm 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: not going to try and enter into those boundaries because 72 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: I'd be probably quite sore mistake in of my abilities. 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: I would say that's fair. I mean I'd probably be 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: pretty put off as well. I just support from the sidelines. Yeah, 75 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: so let's kick off. What's the thing you're most proud 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: of in your competition barbecue career? 77 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: Probably Sea World Champs in Texas. This year we went 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: over to Worlds. Obviously Charlotte was competing, and I've gotten 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: my golden ticket through that state that I said that 80 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: I've cooked. And they have a side competition at the 81 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: World Champs. You have to won a golden ticket to 82 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: be able to enter, and it's the Cowtown Classics. So 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: they do ribs and they do a steak as well, 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: and I made the crazy decision and entered the rib 85 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: competition in the airport on the way to the state. 86 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: Bought two Rex ribs from a supermarket the night before 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: the competition and said Rubson, I'd never tried and know 88 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: what they were going to taste, like, basically just talk. 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: We'd throw an idea to get and see what happened. 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: And I look back through the numbers this morning. There 91 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: was three hundred and eighty seven cooks in that camp 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: and they split us into two groups of one hundred 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: and ninety odd and is you can imagine being in 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: a World Champ events, there's some very high calenbar Cox 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: and amongst that. And managed to come home in sixth place, 96 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: so it was pretty happy with that. 97 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: It was pretty happy. I remember watching the prize giving 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: and seeing that all happening and thinking that is a 99 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: pretty amazing result, and especially if you hadn't even really 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: intended to enter, right. 101 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was definitely a last minute sort of an idea. 102 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: I thought, oh, hey, you know I'm there. Last year 103 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: I went over obviously in full supporter of Showered as 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: a biggage carrier, so to speak. But I thought, this year, 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: we have the kids with us, as well, So it 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: was really cool to heavy in there to see that 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: as well, and it was I think there was fifteen 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: or sixteen of us Key was there at the time. 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: It was a good contingent. You know, this might lead 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: us into the next question. It might not, but it 111 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: might do. What's been your biggest learning moment? Don't answer 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: a rep competition. 113 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: The biggest learning moment. I've had a couple of those. Yeah, 114 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: I've I'm a bit of a kinetic learner. I tend 115 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: to learn more by watching other people do stuff that 116 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: I do. Like, yeah, I've made my own mistakes and 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: learned from them, but I've learned from things that other 118 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: people are doing. It's like, right, that's an a of 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: what not to do. But I've the biggest learning moment 120 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: is just don't over complicate things. The more you think 121 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: about it, the worst it get. That's probably why competition 122 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: I seem like I'm so laid back and relaxed because 123 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: I just I got some wise words from the learning moments, 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: the words words from Jared McDonald. I think it was 125 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: that said ninety percent of what we do in competition 126 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: barbecue makes no difference to the outcome. So yeah, I 127 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: sort of top that on board and really just chilled 128 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: it out follow a process. 129 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean he's not wrong in many ways, right, 130 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of us go through that thing. 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: I know I did where I've I don't let myself 132 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: take anything to a competition now, that's not in the plan, 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: so I can't mess around with it because otherwise it will. 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I did quite at a very high level sport 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: in younger days, and one of our coaches came across 136 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: as something you said, paralysis by analysis, and you can 137 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: overthink something and it just shuts your brain down and 138 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: all you can think about is what you've done wrong, 139 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: not what you're actually doing at the time. And it's 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: something that I take into a lot of things and 141 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: it's been really good advice. 142 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, now I need to know what was 143 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: the sport like, what were you at a high level sport. 144 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: In the world of trouble vichy lawn bowls. Oh yeah, 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: I've got quite a few, quite a few achievements and 146 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: whatnot and made the New Zealand Development signe as well. 147 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: So you do you know what? I can kind of 148 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: picture it, picture it probably I don't know what that 149 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: is I don't know what that says about you, Pete, 150 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: but I can picture you doing lawn bowls like quite happily. 151 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we laid the export, but it gets pretty 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: pretty wound up in the high levels. 153 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Well, and I can kind of take some I can 154 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: see some parallels there to barbecue, right, because you know 155 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: all the best will in the world. Lawn bowls isn't 156 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: a high impact physical sport, is it. 157 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: It's athletes getting around doing it and barbecue and that's 158 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: the same shape. 159 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: But it's strategic and you know, you have to work 160 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: your plan of what's going on, and you have to 161 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: adapt if something goes wrong or somebody does something else. 162 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Right, and there comes time sometimes you've got to change 163 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: the dynamic and make quick changes to make things happen. 164 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: So, yeah, exactly, Well, there we go. There's something that 165 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: none of us knew. That's great. What's the protein you're 166 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: working on most at the. 167 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: Moment, checking as my absolutely amessis brisket. I'd like to 168 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: think we're heading in the right direction. We sort of 169 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: made a few changes sheep when I had a chat 170 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: about some things that were going wrong in our brisket 171 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: pretty much repetitively and we were becoming very good at 172 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: creating roast beef. And yeah, so we've sort of changed 173 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: our process a bit and changed our timings a livid 174 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: and that's certainly helped us, or even I think we're 175 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: on a slightly upward tream. But yeah, chicken's just it's 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: an absolute, just a mind destroyer. But I'm working on it. 177 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, is it because you do thighs right? 178 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing drummers just for the sake that 179 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: they were easier, and I was getting, you know, sort 180 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: of top ten. I think I've got a I think 181 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: I've got a third place trophy and checking from King 182 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: of them out in a couple of years ago. And yeah, 183 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: I sort of I went to thighs because I thought 184 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: you can make them look a lot nicer and whatnot. 185 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: Our parent's points were hurting us worth drums, so I 186 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: was sort of went to thighs, and I can make 187 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: them look amazing, I just can't bring them taste good. 188 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: So is it the taste that's letting you down? Or 189 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: are you having problems like in the cook. 190 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: I'll probably take option D you of all the above. Yes, 191 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: I either get one or the other. I either get 192 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: a really good taste and terrible texture, or I get 193 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: really good texture and no flavor. So I'm sort of 194 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: trying to balance the two together. 195 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: I feel for you because we're on the same journey, right, 196 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we switched to thighs mid year, so I've 197 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: cooked a lot in the last six months, thighs mostly, 198 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: and the ones that are amazing I've always been at home. 199 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, Yeah, great, they're the ones that are fantastic. 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: That's the most frustrating thing is like we do a 201 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: lot of catering and I can cook ten briskets at 202 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: a time and they all come out amazing, and I 203 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: can cook one at comp and make an absolute meal 204 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: of it. So just yeah, as you hidden sometimes but that's. 205 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'll cross my fingers for you on chicken and 206 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: you can do the same for me because we're definitely 207 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: in the same boat where we're That is the one 208 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: I would say that we are now having to learn 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: and new think because they do cook differently, the thighs 210 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: to the drums. 211 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: You've got the time as I think, Like I found 212 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: the ones that I didn't yells mere like half an 213 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: hour before the hand in the window, they were done. 214 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: They were really they were grave from thought cool and 215 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: the ensirements. After that, my skins disappeared and then they 216 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: tightened up. And so. 217 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: Are you a skin scraper or or a not skin scraper? 218 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: So I've tried both. I've found that I get a 219 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: better skin texture with scraping them, as tediously painful as 220 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: it is, but yeah, it's something I'm still working on 221 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: as well. 222 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: Here's a here's a tip that I saw. Well, actually, 223 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Ken from Barbecue Boy came on the show a few 224 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: months ago and we were joking around what the worst 225 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: barbecue purchases, and he went, it's this brisket silver skin scraper. 226 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: It looks like a big oversized vegetable peeler, right right, 227 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: And he sent me one as a little bit of 228 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: a joke. Yeah, he sent one down to me now 229 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: and I was, ah, yeah, what I'm going to do 230 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: with that? And then a few weeks ago you sent 231 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: me a picture and he was like, I found the 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: use for these. He's like, they are amazing at scraping 233 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: the chicken skins. It's all the fat off the chicken skin. 234 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: He's like, I haven't ripped a single skin and it's 235 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: super fast, and. 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: That's the worst part is when you're scraping skins and 237 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: you get just about done and then you tear it. 238 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: It's just it hurts. It absolutely hurts. 239 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you mean. Or you get to 240 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: the edge and then it just kind of rips a 241 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: bit and you're like oh, and then you're like, okay, 242 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: well if I slice that bit off, how big is 243 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: that skin? 244 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: Now? 245 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: Is it still all right? Yeah? 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: And it's usually the exact size of slightly too small. 247 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you. Right, 248 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: what does your comp set look set up? Look like? 249 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: How do you guys run? 250 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: So we've obviously got a trailer that we built really 251 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: last year with the fold out dick and whatnot behind it, 252 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: and we run three Bronco crows lump and everything else 253 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: is pretty straight, pretty of explanatory. 254 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, your trailer is pretty cool because you kind of 255 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: it become it's not, but it becomes a porch trailer basically, 256 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: doesn't it You. 257 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: Click on the back, yeah yeah, But. 258 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,239 Speaker 2: It's supported by sort of jack. 259 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,239 Speaker 3: Straw yeah yeah yeah. 260 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: Is it is the top covered? 261 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: Yes? It is? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it's got two doors, 262 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: so the outer door goes up as a roof and 263 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 3: the underdor goes down as a floor. 264 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a pretty cool setup. 265 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: It's I sort of got the idea from going to 266 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: the Worlds last year and seeing a few of the 267 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: r v's modified and they've got a lower down deck, 268 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: but they don't have a roof over them, and sort 269 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: of bit a key ingenuity and number eight wire and 270 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I probably make that a little 271 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: bit better and put a roof over it, which is 272 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: no good for taller people because they tend to stop themselves. 273 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: But I'm not a tall person, so I don't have 274 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: that issue. 275 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't be any good for me. Mate scuppered. 276 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my hamstringing facility. Come on in and have 277 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: a lot of right. 278 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Jared McDonald thought that because he let 279 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: me go in his trailer once and I think I 280 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: can cuss myself his trailer. Like my trailer, I had 281 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: it heightened. Yes, I don't know if that's a word, 282 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: but when I was having it made, I was like, look, 283 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: it needs to cater for a six foot four yeah fame. 284 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, you could be like six six in my 285 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: trailer and you'll be fine. 286 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you have six x in mine, 287 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: you'd be hanging out the roof. Yeah yeah, two meters 288 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: exactly inside. 289 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, mine's like two ten wow. The yeah, 290 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: that's the that's the total height of the box, so 291 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: that you're like two o five inside kind of thing. 292 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, because yours would actually be 293 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: end up being like one point nine meters or something 294 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: like that of actual space, right. 295 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah take off the yeah, which by one 296 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: seventy five is plenty of room. So yeah, yeah, but 297 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: it's a simple set up. We make it work. It's 298 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: it also works very well with catering because if we've 299 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: pre cooked at home, we can load the cambros into 300 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: it and just use it as a mobile kitchen. It 301 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: works very well with that too. So the idea was 302 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: to cover both bases with one trailer. There are sort 303 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: of plans and the idea of building a bigger trailer, 304 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: but it's also a case if we're just sort of 305 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: weighing up the costs and the options of how much 306 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: competing we're going to do and how much we want 307 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: to keep with the cater inside of it too. 308 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Any using the catering primarily to fund the competitions. 309 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, so it's glad to do it. 310 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: Last Christmas. Last Christmas was mental. I think we had 311 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: twenty od catering jobs. But saying that, it paid for 312 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: quite a bit of a trip to the States and 313 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: also a lot of competitions through the air, and we've 314 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: done a few other pop ups through the year to 315 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: cover the rest of them. 316 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: It's amazing how much you can actually raise, just even 317 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: from like doing some pool pork and selling it at 318 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: people's works, yeah, stuff like that. We literally we cooked 319 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: eighty kilos of pork on the weekend, just gone because 320 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: Mitch had sold one hundred and twenty three five hundred 321 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: grand packs well within his organization. Yeah yeah, and literally 322 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: that's like three grand. 323 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. We we did a fundraiser for Iron 324 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: Hope and Josh fashion Allen from the Buck Barbecue. They 325 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: came down and gave us a hand and we did 326 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: brisket toasties and we sold in the hundreds of these 327 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: brisket toasties. By the end of it, we were sick 328 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: of the side of bread and brisket, but raised good 329 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: money for a great charity. And yeah, so it was what. 330 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: It's all about. Yeah, that's what it's all about. So 331 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: what about your routine, Like how far back do you start? 332 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: Do you have a set day that you do things? 333 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: Are you religious about like I only always trim chicken 334 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, or I'm. 335 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: I'm a horrific procrastinator. So I love to think, Yep, 336 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to get this done early, and I'm going 337 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: to get that done early, and then when I get 338 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: to comp I don't have to do anything. And I've 339 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: been getting better with that, but I, yeah, I don't 340 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: want to do my brisket and my poork early. And 341 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: then when it comes to chicken. I actually bought thirty 342 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: odd thighs and did them all at once, and my 343 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: sanity level was below the floorboards. But I had three 344 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: comps worth of chicken done and so that made me 345 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: feel a little bit better. But then now that I've 346 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: come to the end of my chicken supplies, I now 347 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: have to do some more. So but yeah, a lot 348 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: can be said for preparing early. I think it just 349 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: puts you in a far better mindset. And that was 350 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 3: the other idea behind having the trailer built the way 351 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: it is, is that nothing touches the ground. You're not 352 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: lifting things, carrying things, just wheel them out where them 353 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: and just saves the set up time. You're not losing 354 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: effort or anything like that. And hey, you know, if 355 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: you get to a comp and it's pouring this rain 356 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: or what have you to say, stuff, I'll set up 357 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: in the mornings. It only takes five minutes. But the 358 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: same with the prep side. Like I was doing a 359 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: lot of prep on a Friday night before comp because 360 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: I just didn't have the time during the week. But 361 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: now that I do have a lot more time for that, 362 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 3: I obviously I do all of my prep out on 363 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: the trailer was shoot head judging and whatnot. Just keep 364 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: everything completely separate and nothing comes into the house or 365 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: into the fringes nouse. It all stays out there. 366 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a it's a it's a good 367 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: little tip that to just buy a ton of chicken 368 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: and do like multiple comps. I keep meaning to do it. 369 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: It was I was quite lucky because we did all 370 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: this pork on the weekend. I harvested all the monies 371 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: off them. First, I got seven competition level moneies out 372 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: which are now in two packs. I've at least got 373 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: qumu and meat stocks pork sitting in the freezer. So 374 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: that's good, but. 375 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: That's quite a heart trimming a money muscle. Well, And 376 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of competition teams sort of you know, 377 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: and especially in the early days, we're like, oh, how 378 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: do I trim this? And they come out with this 379 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: a little tiny like the diameter of a fiftyeenth. Patient's 380 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: like you're going to really struggle to cook bit. But yeah, 381 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: there's definitely an art to them. 382 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: It's actually I think it's quite like chicken that you 383 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: need to do a few of them at the same time, Yes, 384 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: because you can then grade them and put them into 385 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: that kind of side match them size wise. So those 386 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: seven that I got, four of them are about the 387 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: same size, so they go into one bag and then 388 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: the three there were three bigger ones, and I went, right, 389 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: you guys are going into into a note and so 390 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you could because you need them 391 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: about the same size for presentation and for the cook 392 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: time and stuff. One one little one and all that 393 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: kind of jazz. 394 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, cooked time is the bigger one to keep it 395 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: on for sure. 396 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So any competition rituals or superstitions, lucky socks pants. 397 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 3: I bought a really ridiculous hat in the States. A 398 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: few people have seen it at camp, and that was 399 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: the one that I got that that I was wearing 400 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: when the cooked those rooms. So that hat came with 401 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: me to a few competitions. But I then discovered that 402 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: it really wasn't cutting the must and so that it 403 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: made its way back on to the neck of the 404 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: chair and I found a different one. Yeah, but yeah, 405 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: I'm not really a character a superstition. I'm more just 406 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: a creature of habit, and yeah, follow the process and 407 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: do what I'm doing. 408 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I like to say that we haven't 409 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: got any superstitions, but then we have. So I'm just like, I. 410 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: Think I've heard you say before, you've got a playlist 411 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: that you know where you're at through certain songs in 412 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: the playlist, Is it right? 413 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: I used to? I used to. That was one year. Yeah, 414 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: we had a playlist that was designed to build a 415 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: certain point so people would know when it sounded like 416 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: a ministry of sound in the late nineties, that is 417 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: when we're really ramping up. Yeah, yeah, but I changed it. 418 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: Now we have a playlist, but we put it on shuffle. 419 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, and the whole theme of it is just 420 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: like up all the time, Like it's just like bouncy songs. Yeah, yeah, 421 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: that was this year is and we're you know, we 422 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: have to think about what next year's playlist is now 423 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: because that needs to change every year. Is maybe another superstition, right. 424 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, anything's with a try, that's all. 425 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 2: Well, well, I think it's just whatever makes you feel 426 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: good right in the right space. 427 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: I think some of it's more luck than good management, 428 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: but a bit of management that comes into it. 429 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: Pete, wash your mouth out. It's all all skill and superstition. 430 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: If you could go back in time, you know, the 431 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 2: old Dolorean pops up in the in the driveway, and 432 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: you could go back to competition number one peete as 433 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: this peete and give yourself a piece of advice, what 434 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: would it be? 435 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: Don't overthinks stuff, plain and simple. Just stop thinking about it. 436 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 3: You know how to do it, you know what you're doing. 437 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: Just do it. 438 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah? Is that based off a certain thing 439 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: that you used to overthink? Do you used to overthink 440 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: like certain bets I. 441 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: Was I was so like and my rib so ribs 442 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: are for a perfect example. My rib process hasn't changed much. 443 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: Timing like we used to have a bit of a 444 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: not an in house competition as such, but it was 445 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: more of a sort of a I think you did 446 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: those ones last week, and mine are better this week, 447 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: and who's a bit of next week and whatnot. And 448 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: so we sort of upped and up and up through 449 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: the rib process to a point where now it's like 450 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: we can both put really good ribs. And if I 451 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: look at it back then, it was that May twenty two, 452 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: I think it was was the first one that did 453 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: solo and ribs were good. The only thing I might 454 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: have changed was it was flavor wise from the in 455 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 3: and out. But I was so held into on following 456 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: this exact process and they need to flip them on 457 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: their back for eight minutes and I need to, you know, 458 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: follow it to this temperature, and then when they're at 459 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: two eight, I need to take them off and put 460 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: them back on to glaze them. And it just stop 461 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: thinking about all that crap because it makes no difference. 462 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: Just feel them. That's all the ris to it. 463 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you do you? Now? People have got all 464 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: sorts of different ways on ReBs for knowing when they're 465 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: done right. What's your methods to know they're done now 466 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: in the field, do you pick them up? 467 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I picked them up from each I picked them 468 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: up from Eachene, and I do the same when i'm 469 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: wrapping as well. I'll lift one end of the rack 470 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: with one finger and it's got to feel to it 471 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: when you wrap them, and when they're not ready, I 472 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 3: just yeah. I mean, I'm hardly adorned by first place 473 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: rib trophies, but I like to think I can cook 474 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: a fairly good record ribs, So yeah, I tend to 475 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: stick to that sort of basic process. Sometimes the judges 476 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: like it, sometimes they don't, but that's that's why we 477 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: do it. 478 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: I think ReBs are the weirdest ones of all the proteins. 479 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: Like I think most of the proteins you can kind 480 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: of like, you know, if you poke a brisket a 481 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: certain stage, you're like, I can pretty much tell you 482 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: how far that one's got to go, how long. It's 483 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: not all this kind of thing, and ye know you 484 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: know that they mostly kind of act fairly similarly. 485 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can a different beast ribs. 486 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, like, is it just 487 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 2: the pig, Like you can have them trim the same size, 488 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: all this kind of thing and we've done like an 489 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: hour and a half before, and the other that you're 490 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: trying to hit it five hundred to get it done, 491 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: Like we're ten minutes to go, and you're like, what 492 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: the hell, why are you this one not cooked the same? 493 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: Like it's just crazy with you. 494 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: Every now and then you get one rack that just 495 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: tests your patients. But that's why it's one competition, Like 496 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 3: I I miss they supplied them, call to recks or 497 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: what have you. Ideally I like to cook three that way, 498 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: if you've got a problem child, you can just leave 499 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: it in the corner to think about its four decisions 500 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: and it. But generally speaking, as you'll always get two 501 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 3: out of the three that come out pretty good. 502 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're a three rack team. Definitely. You always want, 503 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: you know, the backup yet to go. 504 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just in case, just in case. 505 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's one thing you change and one thing you'd 506 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: never want to change about competition? Barbecue? 507 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: One thing that I've sort of taken on board doing 508 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: especially recently, and it's something I really enjoy and I 509 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: think it's if a few other teams adopted it, Like 510 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: obviously it to everyone's own choice, but I really love 511 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: having like Hunter put it on. He from the Girl Spot. 512 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: He did his first competition at Smoke on the Coast 513 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: and he's very passionate about it. And I took him 514 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: with me down to King of the Mountain and like 515 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: he showed me a few of his boxes and I said, okay, 516 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: I said, well, would you like to come down with 517 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: medicause ship couldn't come for family reasons and just studishes 518 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: and just watch, you know, And I think there's a 519 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 3: lot to be said for learning through watching. And I said, 520 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm an expert, but I'd love to 521 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: help you with, you know, if there's anything I can 522 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: help you with by all means. And he then cooked 523 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: and mania and absolutely smashed it. And I think a 524 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 3: lot could be said for you know, confidence is the 525 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: biggest killer in a lot of things. And if you've 526 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: got a new team that has a lot of passion 527 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of potential ability, if a team that's 528 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: been doing it for a couple of years. As I say, 529 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: I'm no expert, but just said, hey, do you want 530 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: to come with us? And just so that you can 531 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: see what not exactly what we do. Obviously I'd premixed 532 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: all my sources, rubs, injections, everything, but just to help 533 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: them with their process. I think if you bring the 534 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: whole team together and lift the whole level, everyone gets better. 535 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 3: And I think that speaks for a lot for helping 536 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: people do better barbecue. 537 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done that a few times. Had the people 538 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: either they just want to see what it's about, so 539 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: they've come and hung out and i'd let you. Were 540 00:26:53,680 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: speaking to Ant's War during the week who is down 541 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: in Dunedin and he was the team that we sponsored 542 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: into brew Town yep as the podcast, and so we 543 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: keep up with him and we kind of give him 544 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: advice on socials and bits of peace like that. And 545 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: I said to him, mate, I think I think the 546 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: best thing, like literally, and New Zealand's doing a load 547 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: of cheap flights at the moment, just go find find 548 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: a flight and a comp that you want to come 549 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: up to and just come and hang out with us. 550 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we do because it's exactly it. Yeah, 551 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: and I had a good chat with It's Janet Elsmere 552 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: on the weekend and yeah, he's got a lot of 553 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: passion for it and he's definitely got some ability. I 554 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: tried a couple of those things, and yeah, he's got 555 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: some pretty cool flavors going on. So yeah, I think 556 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: he's a perfect example of that. And I think it 557 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: had lift his level. You know, he's not going to 558 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: go through ten competitions to lift it to where he 559 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: could be. He might do one or two and be like, right, 560 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 3: that's going to change. That's going to change, and that'll 561 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: lift everything. 562 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well for five years, like me, it took us. 563 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right. The one thing I wouldn't change 564 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: is to people like, that's why we do it. We 565 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: don't do it for We certainly don't do it for 566 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: the money, but you know, just the people and the 567 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 3: friends we've made in the last few years. Just yeah, 568 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: it speaks volumes for the whole community. So there's very 569 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: few bad eggs. And as I say, like high level 570 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: sport and most high level competition, you're always going to 571 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: get for tetpics and pieces and it gets quite frustrating 572 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 3: and whatnot. But yeah, this we don't tend to have that, 573 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 3: which is really cool. 574 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: No, we don't. It's and it's super galitarian. Like I know, 575 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: there are people who run very big companies and you 576 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: do very well, and then there's everybody, all the way 577 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: down to the guys that are like, you know, I'm 578 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: pretty much save up to do two comps a year, 579 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: and yeah that's all I can afford to do. But 580 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: everybody's like, I love that everybody's treated exactly the same. 581 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yeah. Oh, we're all from different walks 582 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: of life, and you know, we all have different different 583 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: backgrounds and different you know, I mean, Charlte and I 584 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: are a classic example of that. My common transport mechanic 585 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: I have been for years and shuts the food scientists 586 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: and you put those two things together and somehow we 587 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: seem to make the food. But it's also a case 588 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: that you know, like, and I think Steve's a classic example. 589 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: Like if you looked at Steve as a person and 590 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: Christalt the stereotypically, you would not pick them to be 591 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: in the fields that they're in, but they're you know, 592 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: they're also into the same thing, and it just becomes 593 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: a common ground that everyone loves. 594 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, what's your current comp barbecue goal? Like 595 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: what are you aiming at, whether it's this year or 596 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: next year? Like you, what would you love to achieve? 597 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: Ideally, what I'd love to do is somehow, by love 598 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: nor money, get a GC to qualify about the American Royal, 599 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: because I think the American Royal might be one competition 600 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: with Charton. I would actually team up over there. And yeah, 601 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: I think through the ancillary and the KCB stuff, I 602 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: think we're doing really well. But that's my My original 603 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: goal was to get a first place trophy and cool, 604 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: and then my next goal was to get a perfect 605 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: three hundred we got at meat Stock. And now my 606 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: next goal is to somehow find that top step on 607 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: the podium to not so much say hey we've got 608 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: to do c trophy, but just to qualify to go 609 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: to the Royal. 610 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, because I think if you're going to 611 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: make the effort to go all the way from here, 612 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: you want to be in the Invitational as well as 613 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: because you know, anybody anywhere who can go and enter 614 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: the Royal. We just got to pay your money. Yeah, 615 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: but getting into the Invitational is definitely the thing if 616 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: you're going to spend all the money getting. 617 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: There, right, Yeah, it's right. And after going to the 618 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: Sea World Champs twice, like you turn up and there's 619 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, five hundred and fifty six hundred teams from 620 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: all over the world and you just meet some amazing 621 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: people over there and it's you know, it's something that 622 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: we've built some networks through people that when we went 623 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: this year, we borrow some year and they've come home. 624 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: We've had some friends from the States come over and 625 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: they borrow a year off us to compete, and it's 626 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: just a really cool like that community goes everywhere, that's 627 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: not just here, So that's really cool. 628 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is, that's awesome. Well, may you've survived. You 629 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: survived competition time. But I think all that's really left 630 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: is to say, where can people keep up with your 631 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 2: online follow the role in Cold Journey, all that kind 632 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: of stuff. Check out all your boxes, sugarway off, all 633 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: your successes. 634 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're on We're just on Facebook rolling Cold Barbeque. 635 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: Obviously we don't as yet heaven Instagram page, but who knows, 636 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: we may be able to find some time to put 637 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: one of those together at some stage. But yeah, there's 638 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: certainly a whole lot of photos and coming into this 639 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: time of the year, there's going to be a lot 640 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: more catering stuff, so there's probably going to be a 641 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: lot more reels and photos and videos and stuff. So 642 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: we've got quite a number of jobs booked and weddings 643 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: and whatnot, so it's been und to be some cool 644 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: food fit in the heading the screens on social media, 645 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: so to speak. 646 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, mate, thank you for making the time hanging 647 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: out with us. We very much appreciate that. 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