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Speaker 1: Barry Sopa with us now senior political correspondent. Very good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon to you too. Right, the Prime minister's in

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Speaker 1: a reflective mood looking back at the year, giving his

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Speaker 1: view on the press gallery as well. What's he saying?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, isn't it when you consider this will

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Speaker 2: be his final talkback He was on with Kerry Woodham

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Speaker 2: this morning. It's the end of his first year, of

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Speaker 2: course as Prime minister, but the end of just four

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Speaker 2: years in politics. Isn't it an extraordinary when you think

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Speaker 2: about it. Four years ago he was a newbie, a

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Speaker 2: new boy on the block. I remember taking his photo

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Speaker 2: and the first day he arrived at Parliament getting his

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Speaker 2: instructions on how the place worked. It's been a tough

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Speaker 2: year being the Prime minister for him. There was no

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Speaker 2: battism afar certainly there wasn't any honeymoon. He inherited an

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Speaker 2: economy which I think everybody would accept that it was

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Speaker 2: in a parlor state. He had a novel way though,

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Speaker 2: I must say, explaining the National Coalitions picking up the

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Speaker 2: cudgels of government here he is, Are you hearing that?

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Speaker 1: Not quite? We should be any second now. I believe no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not hearing from him, Oh dear, but I could

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Speaker 1: tell you it would have started with if I can

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Speaker 1: just tell you or if I can just say how

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Speaker 1: did he bury on? And know how he rated the

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Speaker 1: Press Gallery?

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Speaker 2: Well, what he said about you know, the first year

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Speaker 2: starting it, he said it was like driving a car,

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Speaker 2: finding it in a ditch, writing it and then getting

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Speaker 2: it back on the road. So they just getting there now.

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Speaker 2: Although he didn't say it, his frustration with the Press Gallery,

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Speaker 2: which I think he'd get a lot of sympathy with,

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Speaker 2: was a parent. When he reflected on getting out and

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Speaker 2: about as much as he can, he said, you know,

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Speaker 2: he clears off on Tuesday, gets out to talk to

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Speaker 2: the public, which he said is important. And he said

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Speaker 2: that really most people these days don't get their news

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Speaker 2: through the media. They get it essentially on social media

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Speaker 2: on the internet. They can listen to news and delay

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Speaker 2: and he said that's why it's very important for somebody

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Speaker 2: in his job to get out and to make contact,

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Speaker 2: certainly with the public on a personal level. And certainly

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Speaker 2: he has been out there doing that. But if you

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Speaker 2: look at his opinion poll ratings, Ryan, he would probably

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Speaker 2: expect to be a bit higher than where he is

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Speaker 2: at the moment. But it goes back to what I

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Speaker 2: said initially. It's the difficulty I think of, and I

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Speaker 2: can't recall a government taking over in such dire circumstances.

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Speaker 2: There was the Key government that took over during at

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Speaker 2: the start of the financial crisis, but then they had

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Speaker 2: that buffer of the trade agreement with China that had

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Speaker 2: just been signed. But really there was no for this government,

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Speaker 2: and you know, a lot of people said it was

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Speaker 2: going to be a coalition of chaos. There has been

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Speaker 2: some chaos, certainly in the last week with the fairy decision,

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Speaker 2: but you know they've lasted together and I suspect they'll

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Speaker 2: certainly last together until the next election.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll definitely go the distance. And you're right. It

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Speaker 1: was almost a poison chalice in a way getting the

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Speaker 1: Treasury ventures because we've had two years of recession and

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Speaker 1: we've got a little bit more to go. Three strikes

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Speaker 1: about to become law again this part as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the part the Parliament passed its third reading today.

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Speaker 2: It was in the hands of the Associate Justice Minister,

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Speaker 2: Nicole McKee. She said that it essentially sends a strong

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Speaker 2: message to those who keep committing very serious crime. And

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Speaker 2: how it will work is that offenders will be warned

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Speaker 2: of the consequences of reoffending at their first strike, they

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Speaker 2: will not be eligible for parole at their second strike,

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Speaker 2: and their third strike offenders will have to basically shoulder

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Speaker 2: the maximum penalty without any parole. Now, the new aspects

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Speaker 2: of this bill compared to the last is that there

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Speaker 2: will be a new area covering strangulation and suffocation offenses

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Speaker 2: to those above those that were covered in the last thing.

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Speaker 2: That takes the list to about forty two offenses, imposing

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Speaker 2: a lengthy non parole period for people who commit murders

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Speaker 2: seventeen years at the second strike and twenty years at

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Speaker 2: the third strike, which essentially is they are a serial

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Speaker 2: killer at that stage. But you know there'll be away

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Speaker 2: for at least twenty years. Some would say bloody good

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Speaker 2: job for that too, but there will be very few

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Speaker 2: that would be in that situation. Will be some judicial

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Speaker 2: discretion ryan that there was in the first legislation before

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Speaker 2: it was dumped by labor. And what it'll mean is

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Speaker 2: you'll it'll lead to about twelve thousand first strikers in

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Speaker 2: the first ten years, compared to about an estimated eight

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Speaker 2: thousand before the changes. There'll be another six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty more second strikers and eighty eight more third strikers

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Speaker 2: after the first ten years, so certainly people will be

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Speaker 2: going away for longer when they commit very serious crimes.

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Speaker 1: Very Soper, thank you very much for that. That'll be

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Speaker 1: music to the years of a lot of victims, I imagine.

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Speaker 1: Very Soper, Senior Political correspondent with US Live from Wellington

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