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Speaker 1: The Justice Select Committee believes police may have too much

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Speaker 1: power when it comes to warrantless searches, so several changes

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Speaker 1: have been recommended to soften the Firearms Prohibition Amendment Bill.

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Speaker 1: So where does this leave the government's cracked down on gangs?

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Speaker 1: For example, the Police Association president Chris Carr Hill's back. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is Chris, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: If this goes through, does it make your life harder

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Speaker 1: if you can't search where you want to search?

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Speaker 2: Now? Look, when the firearms prohibition orders were brought in

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Speaker 2: by Labor, they had no search pairs at all, and

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Speaker 2: that was always we said that toothlus without it. So

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Speaker 2: national change that or this government changed that, said that

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Speaker 2: we're going to have search pairs. They probably pushed their

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Speaker 2: luck going that you could use it with suspect rather

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Speaker 2: than believe. You know, that's a subtle thing to some,

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Speaker 2: but when you're actually exercising that pair, having the belief

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Speaker 2: row and just suspicion is important, and then just limiting

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Speaker 2: exactly where you can search us is probably fair enough.

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Speaker 2: You're going to get the mixed right when you're using

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Speaker 2: coersive pairs. So I think we can still do a

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Speaker 2: job pretty well with what they've come up with.

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Speaker 1: So you would back yourself to in whatever circumstance you

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Speaker 1: need to go and search for something, you will be

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Speaker 1: able to have the law that backs you up to.

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Speaker 2: Do it as long as you believe the person you're

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Speaker 2: dealing with has a firearms prohibition order. Now, the majority

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Speaker 2: of the times you're going to know you can do

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Speaker 2: a computer check straight away. But if you don't, the

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Speaker 2: person gives you a false name and you think I

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Speaker 2: believe your line and I think I know who you

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Speaker 2: really are, you can still use it. But if you're

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Speaker 2: just suspicious that he is, you could And I think

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Speaker 2: that's your next when you're using pass like this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is this I read some of the stuff that

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Speaker 1: the committee is looking at. The committee to a point

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Speaker 1: seems to have wandered into the weeds, and they've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of red tape coming and your second guessing everything.

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Speaker 1: And you might be able to do this, but then

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Speaker 1: you can't do that, And what if you're over there

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Speaker 1: but not over here? Is it got that about it

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Speaker 1: or not?

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Speaker 2: It has a little bit, But I think the challenge

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Speaker 2: they've got is they know the courts are going to

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Speaker 2: scrutinize this really closely. The Bill of Rights is going

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Speaker 2: to come into play, so I think they're trying to

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Speaker 2: get that mix right. And but what have always learned,

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Speaker 2: you can pass whatever all you like in the end,

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Speaker 2: it's how the Court's intern put it. So these are

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Speaker 2: things that are going to be heavily challenged in the court,

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Speaker 2: probably all the way to the Supreme Court. So we'll

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Speaker 2: just have to see how that unfolds. But I think

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Speaker 2: they've got the mix right on paper, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: just have to see how the theory works. But it's

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Speaker 2: certainly better than what we had with no search pairs whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got to be on Andrew Costa. Moving on.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, I think nothing against Andrew, but I think

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Speaker 2: time for a change, you know. I think we've got

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Speaker 2: a new government with a different focus, and I think

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Speaker 2: they probably want to see someone different there, and I

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Speaker 2: think everyone really through a bit of a change for

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Speaker 2: five years.

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Speaker 1: Good on YP nice to talk to you, appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much, and it was sort of my view yesterday,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it was a nice enough guy. But listen Chris

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Speaker 1: Carhill of the Police Association for.

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