1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a player store news Dogs. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning at a six after five. Welcome 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: to your Wednesday. How much time and money will we 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: really save from these trade consenting changes? We'll ask that 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: question just before six this morning, Truancy. The numbers are 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: really really bad. Do we really need post shops? Do 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: we really need mail boxes? We'll ask that question too, 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: Plus Gavin Gray and the UK. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: The agenda. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the thirtieth of October. Israel's parliament has 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: officially passed two laws banning the United Nations Relief Agency 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: from operating in Israel. 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 4: They really play an irreplaceable role right now in Gaza. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: We're there on the front lines getting humanitarian assistants to 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: the people they needed. There's nobody that can replace them 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: right now in the middle of the crisis. So we 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: continue to urge the government of Israel to pause the implementation. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: The new laws come into force in three months time, 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: which is when everyone's worried about the food and the 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: aid and etc. Getting through. Russia has taken control of 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: the key city of Salvadov in southeastern Ukraine. It had 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: been used as a staging area for Ukraine's forces trying 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: to stop Russia from advancing further into the Danetsk region. 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: Over in Australia, Elbows on the defense over his free 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: flight upgrades. 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: Well, let's be clear about this. So I've been completely 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 5: transparent about this. All of my flights have been declared 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 5: in an appropriate way, just as petered up and declared 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 5: he's flights or some of his. 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: Flights oppositionally to Peter, and Duston speaking of him, says 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: Elbow should refer himself to a corruption inquiry over the upgrades. 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: In the US, bank, JP Morgan Chase is taking some 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: customers to court. Have been accused of taking advantage of 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: system error that became known as the infinite money glitch 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: on social media. Users would write a check to themselves, 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: withdraw the money before the check was cleared, and Huila, 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: they had the cash. The era was fixed after multiple 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: videos explaining how to do it and get free money. 41 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: We're posted online. 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: furniture beds and a playing store. 45 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: News Talk Z people are stupid, aren't they? Why would 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: you post it online if you're breaking the law, if 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: you're stealing essentially stealing money from a bank One News. 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: I just heard Neva mention in the news at the 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: top of the hour that one News and TV and 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: Z that they are potentially looking at a subscriber a 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: payment model for TV and Z plus. Would you pay 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: money to access TVNZ plus their streaming service? I would 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: pay something to get the news. Would I pay something 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: to get New Zealan drama? Probably not. I just think 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: others do it better. The Americans do it better. The 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: British do it better, don't they? They just have bigger budgets, 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: better productions. Do I need to hear it all done? 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: And in a Keywi accent? Personally, it's not for me. 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: I'd love to know what you think, though. Nine two 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: nine two is the number to text this morning. It 61 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: has just gone nine minutes after five. These numbers on 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: truancy are truly shocking. Well are they shocking at this point? 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you know we've been hearing about this for 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: a long time now. One in ten students, this is 65 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: ten percent. We're chronically absent in term two of twenty 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: twenty four. Now that rate has doubled. Chronically absent students 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: doubled in secondary schools and nearly trebled in primary schools 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen. That's not good. They are unlikely these 69 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: students to achieve NCAA, to have high they will have 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: higher rates of offending and they are more likely to 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: be victims of crime as well. The cost, this is 72 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: the interesting part. By the age of twenty they cost 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: the government almost three times as much as students who 74 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: do go to school regularly. So they are a burden 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: for all of us. And this is why David Seymour 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: is so up in arms about the absenteeism and the truancy, etc. 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about that with someone who 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: is whose job it is to go out and find 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: these young people and get them back into school. We're 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: going to do that right after the break. It's just 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: gone ten minutes after five bread Rich. Lots more to 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: talk about this morning, too, including weapons. You know, we've 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: got a war in the Middle East, we've got a 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: war in Europe, and the potential for conflict in the Pacific, 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: and the Wall Street Journal has a very interesting piece 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: out this morning on what that means for the United 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: States stockpile of weapons should we need them, and we 88 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: would be the ones that need them down here in 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: the Pacific, wouldn't we. So we'll look at that in 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: the next half an hour as well. You're on news Talk, 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: there'd be Wednesday morning a s. 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: A through the Wind, the news you need this morning 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: and the in depth analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge 94 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be welcome back thirteen after five year 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: on news Talk said be Donald Trump's just given an 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: address at Mara Lago, his fancy estate in Florida. Have 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: a listened. 99 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 6: In less than four years, Kamala Harris has obliterated our borders, 100 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 6: obliterated We've never had a situation like this, decimated the 101 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 6: middle class, and runaway inflation has caused problems the likes 102 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 6: of which we never thought possible. 103 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: What he's done has got up on stage some voters, 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: probably Republicans you would imagine, but got them up on 105 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: stage to tell everybody how badly they've been stung and 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: hurt by Biden harris economic policy over the past four years. 107 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: It is fourteen after five, Ryan Bridge. Chronic absence in 108 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: our schools has doubled over the past decade. The Education 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: Review Office says we're at crisis point as one in 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: ten students missed thirty percent or more of Term two 111 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: this year. It found the cost of tax payers as 112 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: massive as I mentioned earlier. When a chronically absent student 113 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: reaches age twenty five, on average, they will cost the 114 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: government three times as much as someone who regularly attends school. 115 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: Adam de Cork is the Tupurrangi Attendance Service practice lead. 116 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: He joins us this morning. 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 7: Good morning, Hey, good morning Ryan, Thanks for having. 118 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Me, Thanks for being with me. Adam, tell me what 119 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: your job is. Do you go out and find students 120 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: who are absent? 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 7: Sure? So I co lead to GUANA Attendance Service with 122 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 7: market A. Hanson James, and we have a team of 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 7: seven point four staff that are responsible for two hundred 124 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 7: and fifty schools across Canterbury and our job is to 125 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 7: go out and not necessarily find We get allocated cases 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 7: through a Ministry of Education website called ASA that's a database. 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 7: But a lot of the times, as the report mentions, 128 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 7: we cannot find those students and that is a huge 129 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 7: amount of time that is lost with our staff. And 130 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 7: so that's one of the issues that report highlights. 131 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: So you got how can you not find them? Do 132 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: they not have an address or is the address wrong? 133 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 7: That is frequently the case, and is the report mentioned 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 7: it takes a lot of collaboration with other agencies to 135 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 7: find those students, and that for us is it's definitely 136 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 7: not a waste of time because those kids need to 137 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 7: support the most, but we just need systems that are 138 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 7: a bit more efficient to make our job easier to 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 7: do and to find those students faster. 140 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: When you do find them, what are they doing? 141 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 7: So if you look at what we're dealing with a 142 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 7: cross cases, we're dealing with a lot of intergenerational trauma, addiction, 143 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 7: mental health, and the effects of colonization, and so there 144 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 7: is just a different mindset of what's important in regards 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 7: to education and for requently in that space that's called 146 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 7: the non enrolled students space, those kids just haven't been 147 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 7: engaged with education for quite some time, and so our 148 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 7: goal is to kind of get the family back on 149 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 7: board and give them some options of education. And what 150 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 7: that means for each family. 151 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: Is very different. So are they you turn up when 152 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: you do find them, they're at a house somewhere. Are 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: they stoned or high or what? Are they just sitting around? 154 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 2: Are they working? 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 7: No, that's that's kind of that stereotypical view of what 156 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 7: those folks are are in And that's not always the case. 157 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 7: A lot of the times, like I mentioned before, we're 158 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 7: dealing with families that it intergenerational trauma and there's a 159 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 7: lot of things going on in their lives in the background, 160 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 7: and education is just not a top priority. So you know, 161 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 7: we always go in with benefit of the doubts and 162 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 7: very rarely is it just a lazy family who doesn't 163 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 7: want to go to school. 164 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: Very rarely that case, I totally understand that, But I'm 165 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: just curious, what are they doing if not school? 166 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 7: That's that's a great question. And a lot of the 167 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 7: times nothing. A lot of the times it's very just 168 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 7: based around playing video games and hanging out at home, right, 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 7: And that's a real loss for that child because, as 170 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 7: you mentioned before, a kid who's not at school by 171 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 7: the time their twenty is costing three times the amount 172 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 7: for the government as opposed to a kid who is 173 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 7: going to school and so if you look at developmentally 174 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 7: as well, that's just a massive loss for that child 175 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 7: in the potential future. 176 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: Oh, it's terrible, terrible for everybody involved, including all of us. 177 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: What absolutely what is the you know, you said, there's 178 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: something you can do to make your systems more efficient 179 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: once you know at finding them. What's your success rate 180 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: like at getting those kids, those chronic ones actually back 181 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: into school. 182 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 7: It varies widely across the country. Here in Canterbury, when 183 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 7: we are able to make engagement with a school in 184 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 7: a student in that non enrolled space, we do have 185 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 7: a pretty high success rate. But the report also highlights 186 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 7: that piece that a kid who engages with our service 187 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 7: usually will go back to school those first couple of months, 188 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 7: but over time we'll fall back off right and for us, 189 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 7: us that's the huge loss is a lack of resources 190 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 7: and funding. As I mentioned prior, we only have seven 191 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 7: point four fte across two hundred and fifty schools and 192 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 7: so we're massively underfunded and for us, a real simple 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 7: fix would be to have more funding, and that's what 194 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 7: the report recommends. 195 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: It's quite embalance to the bottom of the cliff, though, 196 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: isn't it, Because as you said, once once the disengagement 197 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: has begun, it's very hard to get it back on track. 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 2: I mean you almost need to have all of that 199 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: funding going at five year olds, you know, because. 200 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 7: That is absolutely that is part of our trias processes 201 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 7: working with a younger age group. But you know, for us, 202 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 7: if we did have more funding and we did have 203 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: more case managers working on those cases, we could receive 204 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 7: them more quickly. And the report highlights that as well, 205 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 7: that cases are not seen to in a timely manner, 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 7: and that's purely because of case load. We for example, 207 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 7: have a wait list of hundreds and so if we 208 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 7: had more staff we could definitely make that happen. But 209 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 7: for us, it's a real loss and we definitely want 210 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 7: to be there for those families that want our support. 211 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this morning, Adam 212 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: to Cork with us. He is the to put on 213 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: your attendance service practice lead. As he said, they have 214 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: a lot of trouble finding these chronically truant kids, but 215 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: then also the success rate of keeping them in school 216 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: long term is not great either. Nineteen after five nine 217 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: two nine two is the numbers text. If you have 218 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: a view on this, I can see many of you 219 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: do already. We'll get to those next. 220 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: The first word on the News of the Day Early 221 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 222 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: beds and a play at store News Talk City. 223 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand twenty one after five lots of 224 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: you have views on truancy. Ryan is a recently retired 225 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: teacher of fifty three years. Wow, that's an innings. I 226 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: am horrified at the number of school aged children in 227 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: North City Plaza and Pottydoa during the school day. Where 228 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: are the truancy officers. Surely the parents of these children 229 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: should be targeted to justify their children's absence from school. 230 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: Mauls are a great place to start, says Murray in Portidoa. Murray, 231 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: thanks for your message this morning. It's twenty two. After 232 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: as rare as students in class, potentially mail boxes and 233 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: post offices, The Ministry for Business, Innovation and Employment is 234 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: proposing New Zealand post mail deliveries be cut to twice 235 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: a week. This is in towns and cities, rural areas 236 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: from five times weekly down to three and reducing the 237 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: minimum number of postal shops from eight hundred and eighty 238 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: to five hundred. It says people are sending eight hundred 239 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: and thirteen million fewer male items than they were twenty 240 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: years ago. Mariy Fitzpatrick is with Rural Women New Zealand. 241 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 2: She's the chief executive. She's with us Live this morning. 242 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Roe, Marie. Nice to have you 243 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: on the show. You're obviously not on board with this. 244 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 8: That's a fair assessment. We're pretty still at the depth 245 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 8: of these cuts and it's really disappointing that New Zealand 246 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 8: Posts abandoning its quality of service and putting commercial violuity 247 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 8: ahead at the needs of rural New Zealanders. 248 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: What is so crucial for rural kiwis that you need 249 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: five times a week instead of three. 250 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 8: Well, if it starters, there's an assumption that we do 251 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 8: everything online, and for you and I who cite, that's 252 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 8: probably true. But in rural communities, not everybody has access 253 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 8: to reliable, steady internet, or that internet can be extortionately 254 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 8: expensive if you have to result the satellite or other. 255 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 9: Things like that. 256 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 8: So for some more vulnerable rural communities that really really 257 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 8: has a significant impact. Dropping from five days to two. 258 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 8: New Zealand Posts recently dropped from six days to five 259 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 8: in rural communities and that has already had a profound 260 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 8: impact on those communities. 261 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: What impact has it had? What does it meant to people? 262 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 8: Well starters, people get more than just their post. I 263 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 8: think this consultation document focuses on male specifically and excludes 264 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 8: career parcels and things like that that New Zealand Post 265 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 8: delivers through its Career Post network. If you live rurally, 266 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 8: that happens in the same van, so it's not like 267 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 8: the Post is delivering my mail here in Wellington and 268 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 8: then I get my career packages every day, regardless if 269 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 8: your career packages contain your insulin or important medication or 270 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 8: important medication for your animals. If you're on a farm, 271 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 8: for example, having that cut to three days a week 272 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 8: can be really significant. 273 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you just order more earlier? 274 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 8: Probably if you was looking about five days to sit 275 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 8: six days to five, but you know five days down 276 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 8: to three, and you know the detail, and that's not 277 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 8: necessarily proposing to be alternative days. It could be consecutive 278 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 8: days and then nothing for a week. 279 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I have sympathy for you because and for 280 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: rural people, because my family, some of my family lives, 281 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: really and they chew my ear off about this. But 282 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: I just think if it's going to be that as 283 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: expensive as they say it is to maintain these services, 284 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: and it's kind of a no brainer, I don't know, 285 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: well it is. 286 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: And this is a state owned enterprise, so the State 287 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 8: Owned Enterprises Act, so this proposal is consulting on the 288 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 8: deed of understanding. But the state owned Enterprises that has 289 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 8: a number of principles. One is that they need to 290 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 8: be commercially viable, correct, But there are other parts of 291 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 8: those principles which are ensure that these date don't enterprises 292 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 8: exhibit a sense of social responsibility and have a regard 293 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 8: to the interests of the community in which it's creating. 294 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 8: And we just want the government to consider the needs 295 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 8: of rural communities as well as the commercial viability of 296 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 8: this organization and we think there's a way to balance 297 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 8: that better than this proprisal does. 298 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: Marie, thank you very much for your call. I can 299 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: see we're getting lots of feedback on this. Funne already. 300 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: Maury Fitzpatrick the Royal Women, Sorry, Rural Women, New Zealand 301 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: Chief Executive twenty six after five News Talks VB the early. 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: Edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News. 303 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: Talks AB, News TALKSBB. It is twenty eight minutes after five. 304 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: Would you happily return to a level for lockdown tomorrow? 305 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Would you happily keep your kids home from school and 306 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: wear a mask if the government told you? I wouldn't 307 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: be leaving to repeat our COVID experiment quickly, and neither 308 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: would most Australians. It turns out, the year long COVID 309 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: inquiry released yesterday found that, unsurprisingly quote, many of the 310 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: measures taken during COVID nineteen are unlikely to be accepted 311 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: by the population. Again, just thirty percent of ossies thought 312 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: the government did the right thing at the height of 313 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: the pandemic. And I expect that our COVID inquiries will 314 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: produce similar survey results. If we're given the chance to answer, 315 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: we lock people down with no end in sight. On 316 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: the advice of experts. Yes, they offered valid health advice, 317 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: but that advice was too often taken as gospel and 318 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: swallowed hootline and sinker to hell with the havoc. It 319 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: wreacked on it on most of us, who sort of 320 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: blindly and obediently carried out their wishes. Think inflation, asset 321 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: price booms, wealth gaps, social isolation, social disunity, student under achievement. 322 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: We're talking about absenteasm this morning, youth anxiety, trust in 323 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: the media, trust in vaccines, I mean, you name it. 324 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: The question now is really one of trust. Will you 325 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: trust the same experts and politicians giving the same advice 326 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: and making the same decisions should another virus attack? It 327 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: seems the Aussies have emphatically answered no, and I suspect 328 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: most kiwis will do the same, Ryan Bridge, twenty nine 329 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: Up to five Lots more to come, including the new 330 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: rules the government's introducing. We're going to talk to a 331 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: plumber about whether it will save you time and money 332 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: on your next build. 333 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, You for twenty 334 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 335 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: furniture bids and a player store News Talk, said B. 336 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, it is twenty four minutes away from Sex. 337 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to news Talk, said B. Coming up inside 338 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: the next half an hour, We're going to our reporters 339 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: around the country to check and plus Gavin Gray and 340 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: the UK Greg Master, sorry, Greg Wallace is the master 341 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: Plumber's chief executive. He will tell us whether we will 342 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: save any money anytime on the government's proposed changes to consenting. 343 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: Will it actually make things cheaper and easier for us 344 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: if we're getting reno's done in the bathroom, etc. We'll 345 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: ask them shortly, right now, loads of your feedback, so 346 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: much feedback on COVID, so much feedback on TV and 347 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Z plus potentially charging for the service. But by far 348 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: and away, the biggest issue for you this morning is 349 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: the rural delivery and the prospect of in z Post 350 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: cutting back on deliveries and also Post officers. Right, let's 351 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: get to some of it now, Ryan, we live rually 352 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: but only two kilometers out of town. Aramex have figured 353 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: out that we are close enough to be included as 354 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: urban when they deliver, so we always use them where possible, 355 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: says Tony. Tony, that's lucky for you, Ryan. Three days 356 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: a week is fine for Posts. I never understand why 357 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: they make post his work on a Saturday. They only 358 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: deliver bills and the crap that I don't want and 359 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 2: it can wait till Monday. Ryan, I've been doing a 360 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: rural delivery for sixty years. Wow. We had a teacher 361 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: fifty three years deep. A couple of texts back. Now 362 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: we've got a rural deliver A rural delivery sixty years 363 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: in the job. It was three days a week when 364 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: I started, says Steve. Hmm, so maybe we've just got 365 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: gotten used to the increased frequency. Ryan. I like to 366 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: send all of my grandkids' birthday cards, but by normal 367 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: mail it takes weeks, so I have to send it 368 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: by overnight careers so they get there in time. Yeah. 369 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 2: Do you know what I do think though? When I 370 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: see that text and thank you for the message. It's 371 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: lovely to hear from you, But I do think if 372 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: you can send a text message to me this morning 373 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: from your rural address, do you really need mail five 374 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: times a week? Twenty two to six, Brian Bridge, We're 375 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: going to our reporters now. Calum is in Dunedan. Callum, 376 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: good morning. A hot new ticket item is heading Dunedin streets. 377 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 10: Your morning, Ryan. The city's edition of Monopoly officially launches 378 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 10: this morning. Dunedin's Monopoly board includes iconic sites like the University, 379 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 10: the world's steepest streets on their Baldwyn Street, also Castle 380 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 10: Street and the Octagon. The two premiere Dark Blue properties 381 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 10: have been assigned to larn At Castle and the Dannedan 382 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 10: Railway Station. A winning Moves Monopoly manager Dale Hacketts told 383 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 10: us they received hundreds of suggestions from locals with ideas 384 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 10: of what places should feature on the Dunedin board, so 385 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 10: he says, a lot of work's gone in to ensure 386 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 10: that it truly honors Dunedin. 387 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: There you go. 388 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 10: How's your weather mainly fine, few spots of afternoon rain 389 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 10: at eighteen today brilliant. 390 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: Thank you Clears and chrishus this morning as she always 391 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: is clear. Good morning to you. 392 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 11: Good morning. 393 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: A new studies highlighting the mental health burden of the 394 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: Mosk attacks. 395 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, this study is just out this morning, Ryan, It's 396 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 11: from Otago University researchers. They followed almost one hundred and 397 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 11: ninety of the two hundred and fifty survivors as well 398 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 11: as bereaved family members for the first three years following 399 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 11: the March fifteen attack. Now they found that more than 400 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 11: sixty percent of people had developed PTSD, anxiety, or major 401 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 11: depressive disorders, and in some instance it's a combination of 402 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 11: all three. Lead author doctor Rakaiah Suleiman Hills says a. 403 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 12: Huge figure was a surprise. 404 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 9: She says. 405 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 11: Three quarters of those people were also diagnosed, as I said, 406 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 11: with a combination of multiple mental health issues. So this 407 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 11: is the first time we've seen the evidence of the impact. 408 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: I guess all right, how's your weather? 409 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 11: Mostly cloudy with some rain clearing early this morning to 410 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 11: find southwesterly's turning north easterly and a high. 411 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: Of sixteen clear. Thank you, Max. You had a long 412 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: week here, a long long weekend, but you're back now. 413 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: What have you been looking into? The Virgin Mary? Max. 414 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: We don't seem to have Max just yet. We'll get 415 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: to Max in a second. Neva is an orphan with us. Neva, 416 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: good morning. 417 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 12: I was wasted with hanging on every word thinking. 418 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: What the Virgin Mary. Hey, I've got a letter for 419 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: us this morning, Yes, a Lissaday. 420 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 12: Is it a fan letter or is it one of those. 421 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: Well we could call it a bit of both. This 422 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: is from water Care. Yesterday you mentioned the water and 423 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: all kind. Remember they were saving seven million liters a 424 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: day pipes and we were musing about. 425 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 11: We were amused. 426 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: They were amusing about whether whether having shorter showers would 427 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: save as much water or not. Now, water Care wrote 428 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: to me and they said I was listening to you 429 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: and neither this morning. Apparently the average shower time in 430 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: New Zealand is about eight minutes if one yeah, I 431 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: know it's quicker. If one point seven million Aucklanders cut 432 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: four minutes off their daily shower us saving forty eight 433 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: liters each, together we would save eighty million liters per day. Wow, 434 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: way more than the seven million they save from pipes. 435 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: So anyway, there you go. 436 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: So do you go? 437 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 12: So that means mind you We've talked about this before 438 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 12: where I think I have more showers a day than 439 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 12: you because I have like three and you have two 440 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 12: a day. 441 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: You do look very clean. I've rowed up all standards. 442 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 12: At four am, I think I'm the only person who 443 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 12: has a shower here from the early team O Hosking. 444 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 12: Does you know getting up at three am or in 445 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 12: the morning. Yeah, you don't cher the morning. 446 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: K Road they need actually a shower for K Road. 447 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: We've lost Max by the way, so tell us about 448 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: K Road. 449 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 450 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 12: So we've gone from showers to poos and wheeze on 451 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 12: K road. Dung a happy road in Auckland. So businesses, 452 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 12: I really feel for the businesses here. They're fed up 453 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 12: with the lack of public toilets. This is on that 454 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 12: iconic k Road street because some of them, you know, 455 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 12: they after the weekends and that the business owners they've 456 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 12: got to turn up, they turn up to their places 457 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 12: in the morning and they've got to clean up the 458 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 12: human waste outside their shopfronts every morning exactly. I know, 459 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 12: I hope people aren't having their breakfast. So there used 460 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 12: to be that public toilet just off Bereford Square, you know, 461 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 12: but then that was removed because of the construction of 462 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 12: the City Rail Link, So that's part of the problem. 463 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 12: They didn't have public lose there. They've taken it away 464 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 12: from the Corl Link and now you know, business owners 465 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 12: had to do that and they go, we need they 466 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 12: need a public toilet, they need something. 467 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: It's pretty bad down there. Have you Have you been 468 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: to Caro lately? Honestly that the people there's some people 469 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: there that probably. 470 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 12: Need a good wash, don't need like a twenty minute. 471 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: Showers throwing it at you. 472 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 12: To be honest, I'm going to say something quickly. We've 473 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 12: just been having a little wee meeting in the newsroom 474 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 12: and we thought we should do a week dress up 475 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 12: because you know for Halloween tomorrow. 476 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: Oh right, do you think that's a good idea? 477 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 12: You're breaking treats. 478 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: Good weather today in Auckland. 479 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 12: A few showers becoming widespread this morning, possible possible thunderstorms Inhale. 480 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 8: Can you believe it? 481 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: This morning? Seventeen's a high, seventeen away from six. Thank you, Neva. 482 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: You're on News talk s HEADB International correspondence with Ends 483 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for New Zealand business. 484 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: You're on News Talks B. I'm Ryan Bridget. It's quarter 485 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: to sex and we've got breaking news out of the UK. 486 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: Gavin Gray is with us this morning. Gavin, an update 487 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: on the teenager accused of murdering three young girls in Southport. 488 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: What have you learned? 489 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 13: Well, we now know that the detectives who were investigating 490 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 13: those stabbings on the twenty ninth of July in northwest 491 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 13: England also searched his property and there they are reporting 492 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 13: that they discovered ricin, which is a type of chemical weapon, 493 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 13: but also basically evidence documents that the person they're saying 494 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 13: was committing to or preparing an act of terrorism. It 495 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 13: was said that he had a military study of an 496 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 13: al Qaeda training manual and was in possession of that. 497 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 13: So the eighteen year old has now likely to appear 498 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 13: in court tomorrow. This news is coming in that'll be 499 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 13: in a London court. Counter Terrorism police have not declared 500 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 13: the matter a terrorist incident. That's more a technicality than 501 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 13: anything else. This discovery though quite a shock. You'll remember 502 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 13: that Axel Rudo Bakana was scheduled to appear in court 503 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 13: over the stabbings of the three young girls aged six, 504 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 13: seven and nine who were at to Taylor swifteen dance class. 505 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: It was a very very sad story. Indeed, this story 506 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: is a quite incredible We know about the Russian spy 507 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Sergo Scripple and his daughter Julia who are poisoned with 508 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: navachok in the UK, but we've just learned through an 509 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: inquiry about another victim. 510 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 13: Yeah. Now we do know somebody died of this having 511 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 13: been exposed to novichok because it was stored in a 512 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 13: perfume bottle and they picked up the perfum bottle thought 513 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 13: it was an expensive gift and sadly they died. And 514 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 13: we also know from earlier evidence in the inquiry Ran 515 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 13: that there was enough navichok in that bottle to kill 516 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 13: thousands of people were Now our materializes that a boy came 517 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 13: into contact with Sergei Scrippel, the form of Russian spy, 518 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 13: the target of the Novi Chok attack, on the day 519 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 13: he and his daughter were poisoned and believed or not, 520 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 13: the Boilo with two others were basically by the river 521 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 13: in Salisbury, by a pond and were helping serge Scrippel 522 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 13: feed the ducks. And they did exchange a bit of 523 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 13: bread build a look of CCTV to feed the ducks. 524 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 13: Now you might think, what big deal, but of course 525 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 13: Novichok is Holly bison Us and this idea that you know, 526 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 13: this boy was in contact with circa script Bell. The 527 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 13: police did trace him as part of the investigation, and 528 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 13: all the boy had was just he was mildly ill 529 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 13: for a day or two after the encounter. I mean 530 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 13: extraordinarily lucky, bearing in mind the effect that Novichok had 531 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 13: on the others, and I'm afraid really does feed into 532 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 13: what the Britons are saying here, which Russia is denying, 533 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 13: which is effectively Russia callously tried to carry out the 534 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 13: killing a one person book foot at risk many many 535 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 13: thousands of others. 536 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: Gevin, thank you for those updates this morning. Devin Gray, 537 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: are you can Europe correspondent, It's twelve to six Brian Bridge. 538 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: The government's planning to hand tradees the power to consend 539 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: basic housing projects. Businesses with a proven track record, such 540 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: as those building hundreds of near identical homes each year, 541 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: will be able to exist extremely consent process. Plumbers and 542 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: drain layers will also be able to certify their own 543 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: low and general risk work without needing the Council concentraal 544 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: inspection or anything like that, just like electricians and gas 545 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: fitters who can already self certify at the moment. Greg 546 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: Wallace is the Master Plumber's chief executive. He's with us 547 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: live this morning. Greg, Good morning, welcome to the show. 548 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 9: Good morning, Ryan, great to be on, Thanks for being 549 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 9: with me. 550 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: What types of jobs are we talking about here? 551 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 9: Look, it's low risk. It's normally your DJ, your Jenny 552 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 9: in or your single level new house build. Awesome minor 553 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 9: renovations we're talking about, Ryan, were. 554 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: Like, you get if you're putting new toilet, shower and etc. 555 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: Does that need to be go through hoops at the moment? 556 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 9: Well, if a pumber comes into your house, Ryan, and 557 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 9: just moves the bathroom fixes around existing bathroom Schedule one. 558 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 9: You need no consent for that, so you can move 559 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 9: the toilet, shower base and all around in different positions 560 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 9: the Schedule one the Building Act allows you to do that. 561 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 9: If you add one foot onto your bathroom at home, 562 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 9: you then have to go through a consent and get 563 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 9: about four inspections, which really does add to the cost 564 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 9: and time for construction. So the whole concept about this 565 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 9: is getting more productivity in the construction industry and lowering 566 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 9: costs for consumers. 567 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: So those types of renods would be included here if 568 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: you were moving a bathroom or you were making a 569 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: bathroom bigger look. 570 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 9: Extensions, when you're adding an on seite to bathroom, we 571 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 9: hope they will be included. Those are the details that 572 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 9: the government still has to come through with their consultation, 573 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 9: but we deem that as low risk, absolutely, And it's 574 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 9: a bit like the granny flat, Ryan, where there's sixty 575 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 9: square meters and obviously they have a bathroom in a 576 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 9: kitchen and they're going to be non consented and non 577 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 9: inspected as well. 578 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: True, so it's kind of apples and apples there isn't it. 579 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 2: How much time and or money do you think this 580 00:29:59,040 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: could save us? 581 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 9: Well, the significant delays in consenting and inspections, particularly when 582 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 9: we had an eight year high of the construction sector. 583 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 9: So we're talking. You know, consent from million dollar home 584 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 9: can be anything north of ten thousand dollars. But it's 585 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 9: really the productivity goings that we'll get. You can rate 586 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 9: now in clean Sound between fifteen and twenty days for 587 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 9: a pre line inspection and sometimes because there's four inspections, 588 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 9: you're getting to high levels of productivity that you're waiting 589 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 9: around for a process to happen of red tape that 590 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 9: you've got to trust your trades people to be able 591 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 9: to do it and then back them with good guarantees 592 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 9: and insurance programs. 593 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: How do we separate the good eggs from the bad eggs, 594 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: the good trades from the bad ones. 595 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's what their creditation program that the Prime 596 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 9: Minister and Minister Ping talked about. You'll have to prove 597 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 9: your quality. I mean what I would say is guestedting's 598 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 9: been self certified for fourteen years now a lot with 599 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 9: our friends the electricians, and we just don't have significant 600 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 9: issues for that trade. A guest is ninety nine deceived, 601 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 9: also a plumber and a dream rayer. So we're hoping 602 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 9: that the quality that the guest for the industry has 603 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 9: shown New Zealand consumers will flow through to plumbing into Greg. 604 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: I'm really hopeful that this will speed up the renos 605 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: I want to do in my house. So I'm very 606 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: appreciative of you're coming on this morning. Appreciate it, Greg, 607 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Ron. Greg Wallace, Master Plumbers, Chief Executive. 608 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: These changes are as Greg mentioned, They've still got a 609 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: lot of hoops to get through, but hopefully they will 610 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: be coming into force next year sometime. It is just 611 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: gone eight minutes away from six News Talks There be. 612 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 613 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and 614 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: a playing store. 615 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: News Talks said be six to six on News Talk 616 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: said be China has a new richest person. Not the 617 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: richest man anymore, it's the richest person. This is the 618 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: co founder of TikTok. The parent company is Byte Dance. 619 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: His name is Xiang Yiming and this is according to 620 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: the Haran Research Institute Rich List. They bring it out 621 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: every year, he's worth forty nine billion American dollars. That 622 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: is forty three percent more than he was worth in 623 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, which just tells you how big TikTok 624 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: has become. Interestingly, this is the eighteenth new number one 625 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: that we've had in China in the last twenty six years. 626 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: They've had eighteen new richest people in the space of 627 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: twenty six years. In the United States, they've had just 628 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: four Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos, and Elon Musk, 629 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: which I guess shows you how quickly one how dynamic 630 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: the economy is there but lots of new companies springing 631 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: up and bouncing around in value five away from six 632 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: and Mike is with your next Mike, good morning morning. 633 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: It's a lot of money, isn't it? 634 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 14: Well, it is, but doesn't show you how behind China 635 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 14: is because isn't Bezos and Masking? 636 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, hundreds of billions? 637 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 14: It's chump change. 638 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: And what's this business? 639 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 14: Jump change? What's the business of this? I didn't know 640 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 14: it was going on. So you deliberately go on TikTok 641 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 14: and you buy more stuff than you need to bring 642 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 14: it home and try it on clothes, this is try 643 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 14: it on and then to send it back. It's a 644 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 14: major thing. And the weirdest thing is I just find 645 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 14: it unbelievably inconvenient. I've never ordered any clothing online for 646 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 14: the simple reason you have got no idea whether it 647 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 14: fits right. That's true, and why do you take that risk, 648 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 14: Because then you've got to go find your envelope, take 649 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 14: it back down to New Zealand Post, which is you've 650 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 14: already pointed out it's not open anymore, and you've got 651 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 14: to send it back. And yet people seem happy to 652 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 14: just it's a globe. 653 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: It is free to send it back. I know they 654 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: do three velope. You're just still got to take it down. 655 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: But do they wear it out to an event? 656 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 14: Maybe it's exactly what's going on, right, It's exactly what's 657 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 14: going on. That's not honest to say, No, it's not 658 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 14: remotely honest, right, But anyway, we'll look at this business 659 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 14: of building houses cheaper. 660 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: After seven Mike's next, I'll be back tomorrow. I have 661 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: a great day. 662 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 3: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 663 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: to news Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 664 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.