1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Homeowners holding on to their properties for the longest period 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: on record. Properties resold for a gain had been held 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: on to for a median of ten point one years, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: while those resold at a loss had been owned for 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: just under four years. Calvin Davidson, Catality, chief Property economists 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: with us this morning. Hey, Calvin, good morning. So how 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: does that compare? 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's the highest I've got on records, So 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: I think just consistent with the pretty flat housing market. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: If people are looking to get some kind of game, 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: I guess they've just got to hang on for longer 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: than the past. And it really is quite a stark trend. 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: And I think the contrast there between the whole periods 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: for gains and the whole period for losses is a 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: really interesting thing, because if you hang on to ten years, 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: for seeing twenty years, very likely you make a profit. 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: But of course if you've only held on three or 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: four years and face changed circumstances or something like that, 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: much higher chance of making a loss, particularly in this 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: current market over the last three or four years, still down. 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: So quite a stark difference there between whole periods for 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: losses and games. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Basically, if you don't have to well, you don't want 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: to have to sell, do you. And maybe where people 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: are staying together in relationships, they otherwise wouldn't just just 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: to hold on to their properties and keep their values. 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: Well possibly, yeah, well our data doesn't tell us about 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: our relational issues. But yeah, we can certainly see that 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: difference there between between whole periods, and I mean, in 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: any market, there's always a greater chance of making a loss. 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: If your whole period's pretty short. You probably didn't intend 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: to hold for a short period of time, but things change. 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: But it's just emphasized in this current market because the 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: house prices are still down eight eight percent in the peak, 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: so that last three or four years has been a 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: really tough time to hold for a short period. 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Is it an understandable but ultimately dumb psychological move that 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: we do that, because then we when we sell, presumably 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: we're selling into a higher market and buying more for 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the next one. 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, there is always that old cliche of it 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: doesn't really matter if you buy and sell in the 43 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: same market, but it doesn't necessarily hold true at the moment, 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: because yes, if you say you're a first home buyer 45 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, at at the top of the market, 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: you've had top dollar. You're now sitting on a property 47 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: potentially depending on where you are in the country. Not 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: every were, but if I'm sitting on a property in Auckland, 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: you might still be down twenty five percent. So it 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: does vary across the country, and there is that cliche 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: of the safe, but it certainly a tough time at 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: the moment to be buying and selling in a short 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: period of time. 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: It sounds like it too, Calvin, appreciate your update this morning. 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: Calvin Davidson, Catality Chief Property Economists. 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