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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture, Bands and a playing store newstalgs dB.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, it is six after five year old news

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Speaker 2: Talk said be welcome for four to six this morning,

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Speaker 2: our lead interview, the government apology to those abused in state.

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Speaker 2: Here is happening today. Ponterra looks like it's selling its

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Speaker 2: Anka Carpany brands, things like that. Who's going to buy them?

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Speaker 2: Plus Australia is struggling to figure out what the truth is.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you more about that later in the show.

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Speaker 2: Plus supposedly sexist Donald Trump appoints another woman to a

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Speaker 2: top job.

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Speaker 3: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: But it's Tuesday, the tenth of November. Japan's Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Shigeru Iseshiba will stay in the top job this after

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Speaker 2: he won a vote in parliament he was required to

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Speaker 2: have one. Remember after the election, it's been less than

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Speaker 2: thirty days. The coalition government lost the majority it held

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Speaker 2: for twelve years after that snap election that he called

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Speaker 2: bad idea that was at the start of October. But

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Speaker 2: he's held in there. Cheers in private US prison companies

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Speaker 2: have risen this after Donald Trump announced Tom Hoeman will

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Speaker 2: be in charge of all deportation of illegal aliens back

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Speaker 2: to their country of origin. This is the borders are

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Speaker 2: He's a Fox News contributor to this guy. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 2: races on for who will be the next Senate majority

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Speaker 2: leader after Republicans flipped it in the election. Rick Scott,

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Speaker 2: he's your rich senator that Elon Musk is backing. He's

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Speaker 4: I'm very optimistic. I believe I'm going to win, you know,

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Speaker 4: doing in corner and our friends. Here's where I bring

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Speaker 4: to the teaple. I clearly believe in the Trump agenda.

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Speaker 4: Number one. I need business guy that has success doing

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Speaker 4: exactly what we need to do in the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like he's got the job. The timing of germans

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Speaker 2: If a vote of no confidence goes ahead and the

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Speaker 2: early next year. Now. The head of the Electoral Commission,

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Speaker 2: Ruth Brand, says it's bad timing because quote, we have

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Speaker 2: Christmas and then New Year, and then there might not

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Speaker 2: There has been a backlash to her comments, and Poland

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Speaker 2: has offered to sell them some paper. An eighteen year

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Speaker 2: old park worker has died while working to extinguish a

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Speaker 2: wildfire in New York.

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Speaker 5: It's heart breaking, It's very unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: Wildland fire floting is one of the most dangerous jobs

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Speaker 6: someone can have.

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Speaker 2: It's ten percent contained at the moment, burning through more

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Speaker 6: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty

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Speaker 6: furniture beds and a playing at store news talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be more evidence that owes are bad and social

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Speaker 2: media is anything but social. This is a study from

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Speaker 2: Age Concern and a fifty nine percent of participants. This

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Speaker 2: sixty percent had recently felt lonely or socially isolated. Nothing

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Speaker 2: surprising there, We know older people do get lone thirty

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Speaker 7: Ten after five, Ryan Bridge, here's some good news if

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Speaker 7: you own bitcoin, do the price is still surging after

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Speaker 7: Trump came in eighty two thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: They have served two overnight. In addition, the dollar in

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Speaker 2: the US is still strong. Stocks are on track to

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Speaker 2: continue their record run. Shares of Tesla and Trump Media

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Speaker 2: going to look at that Fonterra potential sale of those

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Speaker 6: News and Views you trust to start your days early

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Speaker 6: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture

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Speaker 6: Beds and a Flying Store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be thirsting after five on news Talk

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Speaker 2: said b tom Holm. And the guy I mentioned just

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Speaker 2: Trump has now picked him to be his quote border czar.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be responsible for deporting these so called

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants into the United States. He has told Democrats

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Speaker 2: he has received death threats since his job was announced overnight.

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Speaker 3: I've been often grid for three days.

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Speaker 8: It's because I couldn't handle all the phone cars and

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Speaker 8: plus of the death threst rulin. And my family's not

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Speaker 8: something we're gonna deal with. The I can bully me away,

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Speaker 8: me go away. This is the biggest national security vulnerability

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Speaker 8: this nation is since is ninety eleven.

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Speaker 3: We have to fix it.

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Speaker 2: Rich Fonterra has confirmed it's going to sell some consumer businesses,

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Speaker 2: including brands like Anchor, Mainland and Carpety. The sale could

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Speaker 2: it up to three billion. To decide how to sell

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Speaker 2: all cards are kind of on the table. Matt Montgomery

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Speaker 2: so much for being with me. First of all, who

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Water, A lot of water's going to the bridge.

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Speaker 5: Clearly they see yesterday they've received meaningful buyer interest in

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Speaker 5: There's every chance it's not cut into one one large sale.

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Speaker 5: There could be multiple buyers.

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Speaker 2: So you could have Meslade taking Cappity and then another

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Speaker 5: Maybe not quite that level of granularity, but they are

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Speaker 5: talking about Australia, then the consumer brands and some businesses

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What are the benefits of an IPO.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the important thing there from a point

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Speaker 5: envisage that possible buyers, there could be reasonable synergies for

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Speaker 5: The idea was to shift the strategy towards value our

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Speaker 5: three different milk pools. If you think about Frontier's business

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Speaker 5: as were in Frontier's Future Best Lives?

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Speaker 2: Was value add a fad because we were told, weren't

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Speaker 5: there is Fontierra haven't been as successful as they would

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Speaker 2: Potentially three billion dollars. What happens to the money they

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Fontierra has stated that they're targeting a significant capital

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Speaker 5: very good, very good chance, as good as it ever

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Speaker 2: this goes ahead of its consumer businesses. Brands like Anchor

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Speaker 2: Mainland Carpety are worth up to three billion bucks. Nineteen

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Speaker 6: Next Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early

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Speaker 2: Twenty one after five, Welcome to you Tuesday morning. A

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Speaker 2: big jet plane land in Auckland yesterday. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: It's the New Zealand Trodden Cup date at Addington Raceway

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Speaker 2: this morning. Colen, Good morning morning, right City Council is

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Speaker 10: Okay, So I'm just switching to that story. It's a

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Speaker 10: An extraordinary meeting, closed to the public is due to

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, we'll wait till we get an update

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Speaker 2: later on this afternoon. How's where they come? Fine and

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Speaker 2: fifteen today brilliant, Thank you Claires and christ Church clear

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Speaker 11: Yes, Ryan, big day here in christ Church. And yes

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Speaker 11: twenty first running of the Trotting Cup today. For those interested,

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Speaker 11: last year's winner, Australian horse Swayze, is the favorite. The

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Speaker 2: Nice one, enjoy it clear. Let's go to mex Toll

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Speaker 2: in Wellington. Mes Lindsay McKenzie, the Crown of Zuvera, who's

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Max Navas and Auckland Neva. Good morning morning.

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Speaker 2: Now the hospitality sector there's stoked with all of the

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Speaker 13: You know, they reckon, there's a wave of energy here

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Speaker 13: Producer Lego we must be the only three people in

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Speaker 3: Do you like that?

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Speaker 2: Bloody blah blah blah ah, renting and raving and so these.

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Speaker 2: You go, interestingly, for people who are coming to Auckland

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Speaker 6: insurance peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: According to text on newsbook, deb it is Tuesday morning,

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Speaker 2: Donald to mays Our, Australia correspondent on a good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, is elbow pecking a fight with Trump over

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Speaker 2: social media?

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Speaker 5: Kind of but not really.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a case of what am I making this

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Speaker 2: story sound more interesting than it is.

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Speaker 14: It's a case of what happens next, isn't it really

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Speaker 14: there's all questions being asked in the aftermath of that

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Speaker 14: election win. So Australia is I suppose reassuring the federal government,

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Speaker 14: I should say, is trying to reassure the Australian public

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Speaker 14: that it will still pursue AI regulation, social media regulation,

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Speaker 14: despite as it says that Trump administration opposing it. It's

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Speaker 14: going to push through with these regulations in these areas.

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Speaker 14: And we heard from the Industry Minister, Ed Husseick. Now

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Speaker 14: the minister says that he needs to reassure Australians that

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Speaker 14: he and his government will pursue what it calls the

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Speaker 14: national priorities. And we know that Trump is promising to

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Speaker 14: roll back AI regulation while Australia is saying we are

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Speaker 14: going to develop. The federal government says what they've described

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Speaker 14: as guard rails for high risk uses of AI. For instance,

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Speaker 14: there's going to be some new laws and also they're

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Speaker 14: looking at their social media policies as well, and the

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Speaker 14: minister says the public expects action in these fields. He says,

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Speaker 14: where possible, Australia will work with other countries. But if

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Speaker 14: we need to it will be localized and that will

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Speaker 14: be pursued and to quote the Minister, we need to

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Speaker 14: take these steps necessary so that people can have the

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Speaker 14: confidence to actually use AI into the future. Are very

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Speaker 14: interesting comments to be made.

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Speaker 2: What type of guard rails are they talking about?

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Speaker 14: How do you're afraid you'd ask that things like being

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Speaker 14: able to have human intervention and oversight. For instance, when

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Speaker 14: we are using AR, you.

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Speaker 2: Want, of course, you want a human if it starts,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if the computer starts fizzing,

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Speaker 2: blowing up or shooting people. You want a human to

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Speaker 2: be able to press the button and.

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Speaker 14: Turn it off, not to sensationalize in any way.

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Speaker 2: Shape or forn. Hey, Australia's first Anti slavery Commission has

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Speaker 2: been appointed.

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Speaker 3: What is this?

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Speaker 14: This is a very serious matter. Of course, there's an

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Speaker 14: estimated forty one thousand people living in modern slavery in

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Speaker 14: Australia and so we have heard from the government and

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Speaker 14: they've appointed the former Labor Senator Chris Evans, and he's

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Speaker 14: going to address these exploitative practices. We're talking about deceptive recruiting,

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Speaker 14: we're talking about debt bondage, we are talking about forced marriages,

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Speaker 14: human trafficking and forced labor. It's a five year term

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Speaker 14: for the former Immigration and Workplace Relations Minister. And we

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Speaker 14: also heard from the Attorney General who said that of course,

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Speaker 14: modern slavery deprives the victim of the dignity, fundamental rights

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Speaker 14: and freedom.

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Speaker 2: All right, Donald, thank you very much for that. Donald.

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Speaker 2: To our Australia correspondent. It is seven sorry, twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: away from six Bridge. The Government's national apology to victims

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Speaker 2: of abuse in state care will take place today. It

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Speaker 2: comes along with a bill with a raft of new

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Speaker 2: changes for protecting people that are currently in state care,

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Speaker 2: which will pass its first reading today. It'll ban strip

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Speaker 2: searches of children and youth justice facilities. It'll create harsher

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Speaker 2: restrictions for people working with kids and enforce better record

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Speaker 2: keeping by government agencies, which has been a key theme

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Speaker 2: or a failure, I should say, of those who've submitted

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Speaker 2: on the Royal Commission, Jim Goodwin is an abuse survivor.

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Speaker 2: He's with us this morning. Jim, good morning, Good morning, Ron.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with me. How are you feeling today, Ah, nervous?

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Speaker 5: Are you thinking about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? This is this is a huge thing. For a

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Speaker 3: huge number of people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why nervous.

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Speaker 3: Ah, I hope they don't stuff it up. The potential

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Speaker 3: for a government to make yet more mistakes around survivors

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Speaker 3: and around care is massive.

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Speaker 2: Stuff up the apology or stuff up now the ones

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Speaker 2: who are currently in care.

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Speaker 3: That they won't stuff up the apology that will be

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Speaker 3: that will be well done, I think, But continuing to provide,

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Speaker 3: how will they provide support for survivors and what will

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Speaker 3: they do about preventing abuse and care in the future.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 2: The compensation issue. There's been some criticism that they haven't

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Speaker 2: got that sorted before the apology. Does that bother you

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Speaker 2: or are you more worried about them doing it right

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Speaker 2: when they do it.

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Speaker 3: Conversation is important, but it's only part of what survivors need.

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Speaker 3: Survivors need to be able to access ongoing support, like

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Speaker 3: counseling support for their lives, and that's quite difficult for

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Speaker 3: a lot of survivors at the moment. So I hope

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Speaker 3: that the government will change that. But conversation is only

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Speaker 3: a part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair enough for those who have been abused

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Speaker 2: in state care or in faith based institutions in a school,

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, who have then gone on to offend.

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Speaker 2: What is your view on that? Because the society is

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Speaker 2: grappling with this question right about somebody who's been abused

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Speaker 2: It was there nothing to do with their not their fault.

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Speaker 2: They were placed in a situation and they go on

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Speaker 2: to offend. Do they get should they get more leniency?

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Speaker 2: What do you have a view on that?

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Speaker 3: It's offending abuse as a factor in offending, maybe some

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Speaker 3: people should get leniency. Unfortunately, the bad people also claim

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Speaker 3: that they have had a terrible life and that's why

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Speaker 3: they've offended. What would be better is to provide people

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Speaker 3: who have been abuse with support. And I'm thinking I

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Speaker 3: mentioned counseling before and that will reduce the risk of offending.

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Speaker 3: I treated its source.

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Speaker 2: Not at the other end, what about boot camps?

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Speaker 3: That terrible idea, terrible idea never worked, will never work,

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Speaker 3: based on a false premise that you can knock people

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Speaker 3: into shape, a really bad idea.

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Speaker 2: What do we do with these kids then?

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Speaker 3: If possible, well, if possible, we should work prodigiously to

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Speaker 3: keep them at home. Even if their home is pretty wonky,

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Speaker 3: it's still the home. It's what they know so you

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Speaker 3: work to port the faros, support the people who care

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Speaker 3: about them, and try to keep people at home. Institutions

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Speaker 3: should be an absolute last resort.

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Speaker 2: Your abuse took place at Christ's College back in the

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventies and it was from other students. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: do you want to say to the people who abused you.

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Speaker 3: Ah, they know who they are, they know what they did. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they can live with it. Jim.

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Speaker 2: I've gone on.

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Speaker 3: I've gone on to live my life.

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Speaker 2: Jim. Jim, thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Okay, thank you, Jim Goodwin their

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Speaker 2: abuse survivor the apology happening at Parliament this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 6: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 6: Beds and a player store, new talk sticks.

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Speaker 2: Away from sex. Lots of text about the flight from

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Speaker 2: Palmerston North to Auckland a family member of mine. It

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Speaker 2: was canceled at the last minute. There's all these concerts

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Speaker 2: going on in Auckland and because of the aircraft issues

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Speaker 2: and some engineering issues, flights are getting canceled and people

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Speaker 2: are driving through the night. Ryan. My return flight to

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Speaker 2: Auckland from Wellington this Thursday, costing me seven point fifty return.

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Speaker 2: The last flight out of Palmston North says another is

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Speaker 2: notoriously unreliable known. I've known several people on different occasions

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Speaker 2: that will be canceled that we're on that flight. So

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Speaker 2: there's a song in that. The last flight out of

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Speaker 2: Pami to Australia. Albanize's misinformation bill that we've spoken about

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Speaker 2: before missing some quite crucial information and that is how

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Speaker 2: you tell what is truth and what is not truth.

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Speaker 2: So the idea is that they set up this bill

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Speaker 2: and they will empower the federal authorities to force the

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Speaker 2: tech giants to act on alerts about damaging falsehoods or

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Speaker 2: lies on the internet. The lawyers who have submitted on

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Speaker 2: this bill say, actually, how do you tell what is

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Speaker 2: truth and what is not truth? The bill does not

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Speaker 2: address that. So there's some problems there are away from

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Speaker 2: six Now Mike's here next, Hey, Mike morning.

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Speaker 15: The numbers came out yesterday on reliability of planes and

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Speaker 15: so here's your problem with facts. The problem is they

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Speaker 15: only do the competitive roots Auckland, Wellington, Christy, et cetera, Queenstown.

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Speaker 15: They don't do international So the stories you hear, and

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Speaker 15: I've heard as many stories as you have, and we

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Speaker 15: all know the stories there were. Stories you hear are

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Speaker 15: the regional New Zealand stories, which they don't measure because

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Speaker 15: there's no competition in the market, and they don't measure internationally.

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Speaker 15: Hear a lot of international stories about planes. I mean,

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Speaker 15: I had to buy a bloke, for example, who was

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Speaker 15: leaving on the one o'clock to Sydney the other day

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Speaker 15: but didn't leave until seven o'clock and that's not uncommon,

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Speaker 15: so that's a hang on.

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Speaker 2: So in New Zealand doesn't measure like a parmy all.

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Speaker 15: No, no, because there's no competition, so there's nothing to measure.

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Speaker 15: So when you look at the cancelation, it's down at

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Speaker 15: one point something percent. In other words, most planes take

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Speaker 15: off on time and land on time.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like misinformation.

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Speaker 15: Well it's lacking the full detail, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 15: Christopher Luxean's on this morning on the head of the

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Speaker 15: Apology this afternoon, and look.

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Speaker 2: Forward to Mike's next see tomorrow, veryone, Have a great day.

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