1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Jason pine Sports Talk Coasters with me Piney. Hello, Hello, Heather, Well, 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: that lot's got a lot worse for netball New Zealand. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Didn't it It? Did it did? 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Why aren't they talking? What the hell is wrong with them? 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that question. What I 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: do know is that this is bound to go down 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: as one of the most shambolic sporting administrative chapters in 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: our history. I think the look try to put this 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: into terms we can all understand. If we're called into 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: a meeting by our boss to say that there is 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: a situation which has a risen, which is putting our 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: employment at risk, we're going to stand you down. We're 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: not going to tell you why we're standing you down, 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: but we are going to stand you down. No right 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: thinking person should have to accept that, Heather, that is 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: a completely ridiculous set of circumstances. So it's actually ridiculous. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: It is so ridiculous. It sounds to me, reading based 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: on what I know and then listening to Dave Knowles 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: this morning, it sounds to me like she has been 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: told in general terms what's wrong right, which is that 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: players feel like they aren't safe talking to her about 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: things that, you know, just talking to her about the situation. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: But then then where I think this becomes problematic is 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: perhaps where she says, okay, give me an example of 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: somewhere where a player didn't feel safe, and that they 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: can't do that. 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Why can't we just be adults here? The why can't 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 2: the why can't people just sit around a table? Why 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: can't somebody tell Dame Nolen and let's let's say the 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: head of the players Association, step Bond, why can't she 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: sit down with Dave Nolean and outline the concerns, give 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: Dame Nolen a chance to respond to those concerns and 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: nut this out. Because is it. 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Possible, Piney, that when you go back and you say 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: to the player, okay, give me an example, there aren't any. 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: Well if that's well, if that's the case, then what 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: are we doing? 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Well, if that's the case, are we doing it doesn't 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: matter which like, it doesn't matter what conclusion you come 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: to in what has actually happened here. Someone at Netball 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand needs to lose their job because this is 42 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: a shambles and the rejudge is now so like no 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: one has any faith. 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: In their judgment, do they no, there has to be 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: some severe scrutiny. You're right over what has played out here. 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: There have to be consequences for, as I say, one 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: of the most unfortunate chapters and sporting administration in this country. 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: And heard you talk about Matt one to day. He's 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: the chair of the board, the board appoint the CEO, 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: they're in charge of the direction of the organization. And 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: of course on top of all of this here that, 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: as we've always said, they take tax payer money through 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: the high performance program, so they do need to be 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: held to account here. Shocker. 55 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Now, listen, I read a really interesting piece I don't 56 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: know where it might have been in one of the 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Australian papers over the weekend or maybe one of the 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: UK papers, saying that if the point of that game 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: in America, this is the Ireland All Blacks game, was 60 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: to win over the American crowd, it will will not 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: have because in the first few minutes you've got an 62 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: inexplicable red card. 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: Well, it certainly didn't help, did it. If you're trying 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: to attract fans, causing confusion in the way that game 65 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: did yesterday isn't the best way to do it, you know, 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: the fact that the big screen wasn't working so the 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: reef could look up and see the incident, and therefore 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: it all played out and rather you know, messy, drawn 69 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: out fashion was one thing, but the fact that something 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: is only just a yellow and is then inexplicably upgraded 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: to a red just leaves everybody confused. It's where World 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: Rugby has got themselves to in this, in this absolute, 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: you know, stubborn desire to make sure that they can't 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: possibly be seen to be treating head injuries with anything 75 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: less than one hundred percent severity, that they've got to 76 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: the point where we're in a contact sport sometimes you 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: can't contact someone anymore. It's you know, it's a rugby incident. 78 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: You know, run either. 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Rugby's ridiculous, isn't it? 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Finey, What a segment? What a segment? Either? 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Everyone? 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Morning? Stuff? 83 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: That finey? Thanks very much. I appreciate it. Jason Pines 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: Sports Talk Coast to be back at seven. 85 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: This evening for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: live to news talks it'd be from four EM weekdays, 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.