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Speaker 1: And some more common sense coming to the building industry.

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Speaker 1: Self certification as a way forward. Reputable companies delivering large

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Speaker 1: numbers of near identical houses will be able to sign

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Speaker 1: their own work off now they think that's about three

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Speaker 1: thousand houses a year, not needing the current red tape process.

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Speaker 1: The New Zealand CERID if i'd builders Boss Malcolm Flemmings

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Speaker 1: with us, Malcolm morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. You've got the only program right.

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Speaker 1: Are you on board? Broadly?

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Speaker 2: Broadly we are. What the government is trying to do

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Speaker 2: is speed up consent times for those builds they deemed

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Speaker 2: less risky and are particularly focused on standardized homes of

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Speaker 2: simple design. We think this is a good start, but

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Speaker 2: they've missed an opportunity to introduce a qual HU marks

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Speaker 2: for builders so that homeowners will have confidence that any

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Speaker 2: individual builder has the credentials to do the job well.

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Speaker 1: But if I go along to a well established corporate,

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Speaker 1: I would feel confident by looking at them, wouldn't I?

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Speaker 2: Well, willistablish corporates, particularly at home group home building market,

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Speaker 2: have good standardized systems and if they can produce good

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Speaker 2: standardized simple homes, that's what the government's leading into the moment.

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Speaker 2: What we're sort of advocating is un certified builders and

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Speaker 2: had some really good, meaningful dialogue with government on this

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Speaker 2: is taking the next step of that because Keywy's traditionally

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Speaker 2: like bespoke buildings, So if they can sort of get

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Speaker 2: the quality mark established through the license building practitioner regime,

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Speaker 2: and we think this is entirely possible that a builder,

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Speaker 2: based on their core qualification, based on their experience, and

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Speaker 2: based on their track record with the councils, has the

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Speaker 2: ability to opt in to things like we're talking about

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Speaker 2: here with the self certification schemes, and.

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Speaker 1: Have you talked to the government about that They open

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Speaker 1: to this. It seems common sense.

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Speaker 2: We've had some really good discussion with them. They seem

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Speaker 2: to be quite open for it. We're hopeful that they

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Speaker 2: will be the next tranch of this proposal.

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Speaker 1: Good. What's this actually achieved is that cheaper are they

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Speaker 1: more homes does? What happens, what.

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Speaker 2: They're looking to achieve is speed up the time of

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Speaker 2: waiting around for builders on site waiting for a building inspection.

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Speaker 2: Now right at the moment to where the sort of

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Speaker 2: low trough of the economic cycle, and it's not such

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Speaker 2: a big issue, but if we go back three years ago,

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Speaker 2: it was a very big issue and it will be

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Speaker 2: an issue again. So waiting around for building and inspectors

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Speaker 2: is cost and time. So if that can be reduced

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Speaker 2: by a builder and plumbers and rain layers, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's a really good proposal that's been put in here,

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Speaker 2: with plumbers and drain layers to be able to self certify,

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Speaker 2: that will speed things up because they don't have to

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Speaker 2: wait for a building and sim good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm, all right, I appreciate your time very much. Malcolm Flimming,

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