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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real estate needs.

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Speaker 2: News Tog's head beat Morning, Welcome today, good news as

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Speaker 2: the new twenty four seven digital health service gets a

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Speaker 2: good uptake. We've got record number of fifteen year olds

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Speaker 2: getting permission to bail on school. New forecast around a

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Speaker 2: red meat sector, Mark and Jenny Politics Wednesday after the

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Speaker 2: rate Richard Arnold and c Price. They will not disappoint

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Speaker 2: as well, asking morning at a seven to fifteen who

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Speaker 2: is responsible? Open in question for the morning, who is

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Speaker 2: responsible if you wreck an industry? Now? The head of

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Speaker 2: Mercedes globally this is a bloke called Ulla Collenius. He's

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Speaker 2: claimed the rules around evs as enacted by the Europeans

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Speaker 2: as sending the industry to the wall. In fact, at

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Speaker 2: full speed into the wall. The industry risks, he says, collapsing.

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Speaker 2: Now think about that for just a moment. Collapsing. Not hurt,

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Speaker 2: not fearful of terrorists, not a billionaire or two here

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Speaker 2: or there, depending on the rules of the day, but collapsing.

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Speaker 2: The car industry never decided. Of course EV's were a

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Speaker 2: good thing. They didn't make the mistake of misreading the

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Speaker 2: public demand. They were told through law that a certain

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Speaker 2: percentage of their output had to be electric, and if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't, they would be taxed by way of a

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Speaker 2: penalty for each and every car they made that wasn't

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Speaker 2: battery powered. Now we all know the global story around

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Speaker 2: electric cars. They have not been adopted in a way

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Speaker 2: the politicians wanted them to be, as the subsidies have stopped,

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Speaker 2: as people like Trump have shunned the entire concept. The

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Speaker 2: EV's story has become increasingly calamitous, and now a claimed

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Speaker 2: that an entire industry might fall over. China, which is

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Speaker 2: an interesting part of the story, is not helping given

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Speaker 2: their government as propping up any number of EV producers

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Speaker 2: so they can flood global markets with product. Now, in Europe,

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing is illegal for obvious reasons. They

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Speaker 2: have sanctions and teriffs for such matters. Poor political decision

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Speaker 2: making from foreigners is punished. So on that theory, why

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Speaker 2: isn't the poor decision making of the twenty seven European

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Speaker 2: governments that signed on to the EV obsession getting punished

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Speaker 2: for the sales that aren't happening, The money that isn't made,

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Speaker 2: the jobs that are lost and potentially the industry that

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Speaker 2: will collapse. Virtually every single European motormaker is pulled back

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Speaker 2: on the ev tradicory. Why because they know a dog

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Speaker 2: when they see it and they won't mind surviving. So

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Speaker 2: where is the accountability from Brussels? How many global car

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Speaker 2: manufacturing hits have to suggest collapse is the next step

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Speaker 2: in their journey because of a bunch of ideologically driven

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Speaker 2: politicians who couldn't or refused to see the wood for

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Speaker 2: the nit zero.

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Speaker 1: News of the world. In ninety second, we've.

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Speaker 2: Got a couple of operations. So firstly operations summoned of

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Speaker 2: fire that involved Israel going after Hama's leadership in Qatar.

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Speaker 2: The Qataris had never closed.

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Speaker 3: Told me unequivocally that the Qataris were not made aware

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Speaker 3: that this this attack was going to take place.

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Speaker 4: They did not know, I said, was Kato informed?

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Speaker 2: The response not at all. That story is changing as

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Speaker 2: we speak. I'll come back to that reaction, though mixed

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Speaker 2: sum suggesting probably not useful given a deal could be close.

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Speaker 3: Violation of international law and an attack on a sovereign

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Speaker 3: nation which is allied to the United States and which

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Speaker 3: is a nation in fact that the United States defended

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Speaker 3: from Uranian missiles back in.

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Speaker 2: June, but the israelis not having any of that.

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Speaker 5: The isa IDF and Israeli Air Force prepared and carried

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Speaker 5: out this mission in the best and most optimal and

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Speaker 5: accurate way. That is impressing the entire world.

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Speaker 2: Not really because you know what the UN thinks.

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Speaker 6: I can an this fragrant violation of the sovereignty and.

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Speaker 7: Territory integrity of Katars.

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Speaker 8: All parties master.

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Speaker 6: Works towards achieving a permanencies fired, not destroying its.

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Speaker 2: Then Operation Midway Blitz. This is in Chicago. The fates

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Speaker 2: have arrived and not all the locals are against them.

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Speaker 9: If that's a leadership, we have no leadership.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 9: I would expect that he would work with the administration

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Speaker 9: to make our streets a little bit safer. So in

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Speaker 9: that case, if that was happening, I would still have

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Speaker 2: I don't he's referring to Pritzky, of the governor, who's

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Speaker 2: against it. The course of the White House, by the way,

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Speaker 2: they're not against it.

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Speaker 10: When you have Democrat politicians like Printcer and Nuskum that

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Speaker 10: are freeing illegal alien pedophiles, illegal alien child abductors, illegal

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Speaker 10: alien murderers. This is terrorism being waish against the American people.

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Speaker 2: Now just back to the business of Qatar. They climb.

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Speaker 2: They knew nothing. Carolyn As in the White House, She's

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Speaker 2: got a different story.

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Speaker 9: Unilatterly, bombing inside Katar, a sovereign nation and close ally

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Speaker 9: bravely taking risks with us to broke her peace does

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Speaker 9: not advance Israel or America's goals. However, eliminating Hamas who

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Speaker 9: have profited off the misery of those living in Gaza

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Speaker 9: is a worthy goal. President Trump immediately directed Special Envoy

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Speaker 9: Whitcoff to inform the Qataris of the impending attack, which

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Speaker 9: he did. The President views Qatar as a strong ally

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Speaker 9: and friend of the United States and feels very badly

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Speaker 9: about the location of this attack.

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Speaker 2: So that falls on what coffee on the dittery didn't.

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Speaker 2: The Katari city didn't end, and the White House city

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Speaker 2: didn't as news of the world in ninety second, Let's

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Speaker 2: go back to the car thing I was mentioning a

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Speaker 2: moment ago. The IAA Mobility conference is on in Munich

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Speaker 2: at the moment the approach from Volkswagen B and w

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Speaker 2: Reno and others seems to be to blitz the thing

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Speaker 2: with new models. So they're embarking on a product blitz

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Speaker 2: as their response to the ongoing problem around eVisa and China.

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Speaker 2: It is twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio how

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Speaker 2: Let me get to Nepal and Norway in Thailand because

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Speaker 2: there's all sorts of calamitus nonsense going on in those

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Speaker 2: places at the moment. But they revised down the jobs

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Speaker 2: report in America. Annual revisions to non farm payrolls has

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Speaker 2: dropped by nine hundred and eleven thousand from the initial estimate.

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Speaker 2: So updated information on business openings and closings. So that's

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Speaker 2: not a good day at the office. Is at fifteen

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Speaker 2: past six, agreed back JOm Wealth Andrew Keller had good morning, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very good morning mine. So you reference to these manufacturing

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Speaker 2: business and this will all go into the big kit

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Speaker 2: you Tube number which comes next week. So what did

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Speaker 2: we get? What do we find out?

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well probably it didn't go I gingered it, Mike.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: We talked about the growth and the looming GDP number

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Speaker 6: possibility that we could get a slightly better number than

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Speaker 6: the mind zero point three that was the arbien Z's

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Speaker 6: pack in the recent MPs. So yeah, yesterday we got

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Speaker 6: statues and released a whole bunch of data business and

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Speaker 6: manufacturing data for Q two that all feeds into the

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Speaker 6: GDP outcome.

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Speaker 8: And unfortunately, at least for one local.

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Speaker 6: Economist, the numbers have pushed the estimate the other way,

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Speaker 6: and Benz lowered their estimate to minus zero point five

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Speaker 6: percent for the quarter. Now, look, it is a big

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Speaker 6: data dump. You get the Economic Survey manufacturing, the Wholesale

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Speaker 6: Trade Survey, business and business employment data, so lots of

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Speaker 6: stuff there to unpack. Just looking at the Economic Survey

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Speaker 6: of manufacturing. Yeah, it weakened. I think that would be

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Speaker 6: a euphemism. Slumped was one description. It very much adds

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Speaker 6: credence to the sort of much talked about slow down

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Speaker 6: that there was very much being anecdotally described in Q two.

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Speaker 6: You know, we kept saying, oh, things feel soft, things

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Speaker 6: feel soft, especially after that surprise we got in Q

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Speaker 6: of total manufacturing sales fell two point nine percent. That's

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Speaker 6: after a two point four percent rise in the March quarter.

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Speaker 6: The value of sales fell one billion, that's a three

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Speaker 6: see this pretty weak and reverse.

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Speaker 8: What happened in March.

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Speaker 6: Now, delving into other numbers, we recently spoke about the

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Speaker 6: building work put in place. Now the data release estate

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Speaker 6: includes a bit more insight into the construction sector.

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Speaker 8: It's a wider data set.

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Speaker 6: It brings in more things that aren't included in that

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Speaker 6: building work put in place. It reveals that construction sales

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Speaker 6: fell three point one percent. That's a bigger four than

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Speaker 6: we saw in building work put in place now. So

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Speaker 6: the construction industry was the largest saw the largest industry

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Speaker 6: decrease in sales seven hundred and twenty million dollars with

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Speaker 6: a fall there. So these are really tough numbers here.

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Speaker 6: And after adjusting I saw a bit of analysis yesterday.

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Speaker 6: After adjusting for price changes and inflation, this measure has

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Speaker 6: fallen eighteen percent in the past two years. That is

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Speaker 6: a massive change for an industry to absorb, and of

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Speaker 6: course that has flow on effects into other industries, those

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Speaker 6: industries that support the construction industries that make stuff for them.

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Speaker 6: Business employment numbers are in the broad data as well.

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Speaker 6: And an observation here in this data series on a

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Speaker 8: So all I can say might is lock in those

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Speaker 8: ACA cuts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we lost to more of those. Now, what about Australia.

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Speaker 2: You look at AMZ yesterday and all their redundancies coming

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Speaker 2: in the consumer sentiment things things are turning here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know when they say three and a half

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Speaker 6: and redundancies are but none in New Zealand Adam. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Renewed concern in the survey over the economic outlook, a

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Speaker 6: little bit less confidence around future rate cuts. The one

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Speaker 6: thing I noticed in this data series, Mike, how's the

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Speaker 6: house price expectations over there? House price expectations in this

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Speaker 6: Westpac Consumer Sentiment are at their highest highest.

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Speaker 8: Level in fifteen years.

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Speaker 6: Seventy five percent of consumers accept help prices to rise,

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Speaker 6: and the most bollish Aussies are those in South Australia

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Speaker 6: and Queensland. Then we said ab nab business confidence. Business

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Speaker 6: Business confidence fell three points, but they make the point

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Speaker 6: that that follows four consecutive months of improving sentiment. That's

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Speaker 6: also sitting around long long run average levels. But you

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Speaker 6: just mentioned that US payrolls number, and we said that

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Speaker 6: that was actually at the higher end of negativity.

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Speaker 8: So that was a big number, nine hundred. I mean,

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Speaker 8: people said it might be like.

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Speaker 2: A million people. They didn't you know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah we got that roble, Yeah, we got that robin.

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Speaker 2: All right, what are the numbers?

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Speaker 6: The Dow Jones is up one hundred ninety seven points

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Speaker 13: What we're seeing is just phenomenal global demand and that's

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Speaker 13: The sheep story is better than it's been in years.

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Speaker 2: Good is that a supply side issue as well? Going forward?

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Speaker 2: We got enough sheep still because we don't have as

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Speaker 13: So you know, the continuing decline of sheet numbers is

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Speaker 2: Someone in Wellington's got to be listening to the stunt

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Speaker 13: Look, obviously some changes have been made are unda forestation

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Speaker 2: Just back to the beef quickly. I read another thing,

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Always good to talk to you, Kate appreciated. Kate

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Speaker 2: Right, Richard Arnold morning for you make a lot of

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Speaker 2: he said, he said, here, what's going on?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, in terms of both of the major issues of

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Speaker 15: the day, starting with the Middle East and what did

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Speaker 15: the White House know and when did they know it?

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Speaker 15: That question has arisen as Israel launched it strike now

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Speaker 15: on top of mass officials who were meeting in Cutter's

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Speaker 15: capital of Doha back in May, Trump made a stopover

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Speaker 15: in Cutter where he signed a big agreement for Boeing

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Speaker 15: jets and did some multi billion dollar defense deals. The

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Speaker 15: cutter Is also made a gift to Trump of a

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Speaker 15: jet which could be turned into a temporary presidential plane

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Speaker 15: as Air Force one, then be passed on to the

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Speaker 15: Trump Library. It was said Boeing has been slow in

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Speaker 15: producing a new presidential plane, which now were set for

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Speaker 15: delivery maybe in twenty twenty seven and maybe twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 15: So back to this is raeby yes strike. Kutter Is

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Speaker 15: condemning it as a quote blatant violation of international law.

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Speaker 15: Turkey in Egypt also are raising alarms, with Turkey accusing

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Speaker 15: Israel of quote terrorism of state policy. They're concerned about

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Speaker 15: the possibility of strikes on their own soil. So with

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Speaker 15: all this is the backdrop, the White House press briefing

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Speaker 15: was delayed by about thirty minutes today. You heard a

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Speaker 15: bit of it at the of a half hour and

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Speaker 15: spokesman Carolyn Levitt saying the Israeli attack on cutty soil

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Speaker 15: does not advance you as goals. So the Trump team

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Speaker 15: spoke with the Qataris and also with Israel' smith Niahu.

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Speaker 15: Levitt was asked about the timing because over the weekend,

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Speaker 15: Trump was warning Hamas that they had received their quote

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Speaker 15: final warning, said Trump, We're.

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Speaker 8: In very deep negotiation with Amas.

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Speaker 16: We said, let them all out, right now, let them

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Speaker 16: all out and much better things will happen for them.

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Speaker 8: But if you don't let them all out, it's going

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Speaker 8: to be a tough situation.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be nasty.

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Speaker 17: So what was the meaning of all of that?

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Speaker 15: Levitt was asked about this a short time ago.

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Speaker 8: He wasn't talking about this strike on Doha.

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Speaker 5: No, he was not.

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Speaker 9: As I told you that Trump administration was notified by

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Speaker 9: the United States military that Israel was attacking Hamas, and

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Speaker 9: the President spoke to the Prime Minister after the attack,

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Speaker 9: as well as again the Emir and the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 15: Of Qatar Ntnya, who also is speaking of this, saying

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Speaker 15: that this was an independent Israeli maneuver. The broader question

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Speaker 15: is how does this affect any peace hopes Netnya, who

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Speaker 15: suggesting that twenty of the hostages taken back in twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty three October the seventh during that awful mass attack

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Speaker 15: in Israel, twenty of them still are alive. The families

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Speaker 15: of those remaining hostages are voicing concern about the potential

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Speaker 15: impact of this Israeli strike, while former US diplomat to

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Speaker 15: the region, Brit McGirk, who has served for American presidents, also.

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Speaker 17: Is worried about what will happen with all of this.

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Speaker 4: Part of them in Doha, where the United States and

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Speaker 4: Israel has asked Hamas.

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Speaker 17: To play this role is shocking, so he continues.

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Speaker 2: Ers indleed, and then we count to w Epstein and

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Speaker 2: the dump and where are we at with that?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well, who's to be believed? The White House? Are

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Speaker 15: you lying eyes? Trump is saying no comment on the

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Speaker 15: latest release of documents over this. It's a dead issue,

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Speaker 15: he told NBC in a very brief phone call today.

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Speaker 15: Off Otherwise, there's been silence from Trump himself. As a

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Speaker 15: copy of that Lewde birthday message that Trump is alledged

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Speaker 15: to have written for Epstein on his fiftieth birthday has

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Speaker 15: been made public. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee obtained

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Speaker 15: this thing, which Trump said didn't exist, they released it.

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Speaker 15: Democrat Robert Garcia on that committee says, this is.

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Speaker 9: A horrific cover up happening right now at the White House.

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Speaker 15: This birthday letter depicts the outline of a naked woman

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Speaker 15: and says, quote, we have certain things in common. Jeffrey

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Speaker 15: Powers a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may every day

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Speaker 15: be another wonderful secret. Signed at the bottom Donald in

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Speaker 15: the very same way that many other Trumps signatures from

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Speaker 15: that era appear. It looks exactly the same to my eyes.

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Speaker 15: I'm not a skilled person when it comes to analyzing handwriting,

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Speaker 15: but Trump, Carol Levitt says, of.

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Speaker 9: This, President did not write this letter. He did not

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Speaker 9: sign this letter. And that's why President's external legal team

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Speaker 9: is aggressively pursuing litigation against the Wall Street Journal, and

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Speaker 9: they will continue too.

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Speaker 15: Well, we'll see about that. Confronted with this, some lawmakers

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Speaker 15: a bit a fuddled as to how they should respond.

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Speaker 9: I'd reckon clearly, the birthday note from President Trump is

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Speaker 9: a fallacy.

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Speaker 4: That's that's just yeah, it's just not true.

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Speaker 18: The President says he did not sign it, so I

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Speaker 18: take the president's word.

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Speaker 15: This is far from over. There's growing move for a

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Speaker 15: release of all of the files. And another item just

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Speaker 15: put out is that photo of Epstein seemingly joking.

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Speaker 11: Is this a joke?

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Speaker 15: With a photo of an oversized check being held by Epstein,

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Speaker 15: with a caption saying, Jeffrey Quote sells fully depreciated woman.

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Speaker 15: Her name then blacked out to Donald Trump for twenty

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Speaker 15: two five hundred dollars. The Wall Street Journal reporting now

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Speaker 15: that this woman was someone with whom Trump and Epstein

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Speaker 15: socialized back in the nineties. They say she denies any

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Speaker 15: romantic relationships. So, Mike, yet another mystery.

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Speaker 2: Right up see Friday Richard Donald start side speaking of

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Speaker 2: the Wallswick Journal. By the way, if you haven't caught

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Speaker 2: up on this, the Murdock's got there. The fight finally settled.

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Speaker 2: So Lachland wins. So this is for Fox The Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal in New York Post. Lachland wins. Prove Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: and James. They sell out and get into another trust.

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Speaker 2: That trust gets the funds from the sales of their shares.

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Speaker 2: But the ultimate thing is that Murdoch wanted Lachlan, and

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Speaker 2: so Lochlan's the King.

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Speaker 1: Nine minutes away from seven, the Mike asking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: a Vida retirement Communities news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: But Norway result. They've been voting the last couple of

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Speaker 2: days Labors one that they were running. They were looking

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Speaker 2: for a second term they've got it. They'll need a

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Speaker 2: couple of minor parties to get a majority. Norways used

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Speaker 2: a majority. One hundred and sixty nine set parliament. They

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Speaker 2: call it the Storting Anti immigration party, Progress Party biggest gains.

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Speaker 2: They're up to twenty four percent. They've got forty eight seats,

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Speaker 2: so Labour only got twenty eight point two percent of

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Speaker 2: the vote. That's fifty three seats. That's actually an improvement

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Speaker 2: on last time, so it was a tight race. There

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Speaker 2: was some debate as to whether the center right should

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Speaker 2: be able to get back a couple of center right parties.

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Speaker 2: They fall in short. Labor get a second term in

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Speaker 2: Norway four minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the Inns are the outs. It's the Fiarz with

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Speaker 1: business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: America's housing market, it's an interesting old thing. The American

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Speaker 2: housing market got some new figures this morning.

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Speaker 12: The CHOWE.

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Speaker 2: Over the past five years, it's increased by fifty seven

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Speaker 2: percent to a record ninety two point seven trillion dollars.

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Speaker 2: So that means in just sixty months they added thirty

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Speaker 2: three point seven trillion in value if you want to

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Speaker 2: compare it to us. We don't do total value, but

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Speaker 2: the biggest growth periods or increases of forty five percent

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, so they've now dropped down to about

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Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty seven percent above pre COVID, so

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Speaker 2: our twenty seven versus their fifty seven. In the state,

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Speaker 2: New York's added the most value of any state, despite

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Speaker 2: the fact half of them left and went to Florida

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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty four billion. They've added supplies. The

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Speaker 2: issue they're not building homes the way they used to.

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Speaker 2: They've got the same problems we have the cost per

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Speaker 2: square meter. It's too expensive. So as the play diminishes,

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Speaker 2: the demand increases, and that just leads pricing going one way.

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Speaker 2: So the government's idea about this tallyhealth. You know, when

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Speaker 2: you can't get into your local GP, you go online

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Speaker 2: and somebody helps you out in that department. That seems

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Speaker 2: to be working quite well, although there's some concern around

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Speaker 2: the relationship with you and your GP. So we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that. Record number fifteen year olds are leaving high

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Speaker 2: school now, but upside they are going on to study.

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Speaker 2: It seems at places like politechs, So is that any

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Speaker 2: bad thing? And Jenny and Mark Politics Wednesday after eight

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Speaker 2: or still to come on the show.

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Speaker 1: News Opinion and everything in between, the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Rainthrover leading by example, News Talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be seven past seven. So the focus in the

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Speaker 2: Phillips case as soon to the children, what's required, what's

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Speaker 2: being offered when it comes to their needs and requirements.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Claire acmade as the Chief Children's Commissioner and is

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Speaker 2: with us, good morning.

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Speaker 11: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: In your observation, are we equipped for the uniqueness of

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Speaker 2: this case?

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Speaker 19: I think that this has been unprecedented in New Zealand.

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Speaker 19: I am really pleased that the police have safely located

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Speaker 19: the children and that they have been found safe and well.

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Speaker 19: I think that's the key thing that we need to

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Speaker 19: focus on now, as well as respecting the privacy of

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Speaker 19: these children. I'm glad also over time we can understand

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Speaker 19: more about this, but right now, the privacy of these

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Speaker 19: children is the crucial thing from my perspective.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because I'm kind of over

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Speaker 2: the story now, not in the nasty way. I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying that there's there's a point in this country, and

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Speaker 2: we do it often where we start to become a

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Speaker 2: bit invasive, don't we, And that worries me.

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Speaker 19: I share that concern, Mike. These children need space and time,

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Speaker 19: and my request now to the media and to the

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Speaker 19: public at large is that everyone respects that there are

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Speaker 19: three children at the heart of this situation and we

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Speaker 19: do that by giving them their privacy.

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Speaker 2: Are you confident, ot you're up to it.

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Speaker 16: Well.

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Speaker 19: I have sought assurances from Ordering a Tamariki about the

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Speaker 19: support that they have in place four of these three children,

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Speaker 19: and I've received those assurances, and I think it's now

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Speaker 19: essential that Orning a Tamariki and the police are able

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Speaker 19: to continue to focus on the work that they have

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Speaker 19: in front of them, and that these three children have

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Speaker 19: all of the support lacked around them that they need

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Speaker 19: to meet their specific needs.

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Speaker 2: Do you worry about the suppression the court and the

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Speaker 2: stuff that you and I probably know that isn't allowed

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Speaker 2: to be published and yet it is online and probably

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Speaker 2: will end up internationally because the jurisdiction doesn't count there

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Speaker 2: that that's an issue going forward.

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Speaker 19: Again, I just reiterate my message, Mike about the importance

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Speaker 19: of respecting the privacy of these children, and that is

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Speaker 19: in these coming days, in the weeks ahead, and in

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Speaker 19: the months and years ahead, we must remember these are

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Speaker 2: And do you go well, clear pressure, doctor Claire Arkman,

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Speaker 2: who's the Chief Children's Commissioner. It does darktail. I will

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Speaker 2: come back to the legals around this with probably Mark

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Speaker 2: after eight o'clock this morning. There is also the story

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Speaker 2: floating around that Julie Christy, well known documentary maker, has

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Speaker 2: been given access to some of the police operation and

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Speaker 2: is looking to make a documentary and this tremendous pressure

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Speaker 2: on her to pull the pin on that, because that,

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Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, ends is into the world of

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Speaker 2: ghoulish voyeurism. And when all the details are out, I

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Speaker 2: think you'll probably agree with me. Ten minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: Pasky seem to have some positive news from the health sector.

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Speaker 2: The new twenty four cent digital Health service shows twenty

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Speaker 2: one thousand consultations have been delivered since the July launched.

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Speaker 2: Seventy one percent of these bookings were because you couldn't

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Speaker 2: get a face to face eighty three percent. This is interesting,

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Speaker 2: eighty three percent of patients didn't need an in person

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Speaker 2: follower doctor Angus Chambers, Chair of gen Pros. Will this Angus,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Am. This is a good news story or

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Speaker 2: a worrisome story?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Look, I think pop bring more than letter. I don't

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Speaker 16: think the Chelly Health Services addressing the real problem for

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Speaker 16: a health system when you look at the emergency departments

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Speaker 16: and crises, that hasn't touched that problem. So I think

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Speaker 16: it's a good news story in terms of it looks

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Speaker 16: really good. Oh look at all these numbers, but it

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Speaker 16: hasn't many differents to the realishes.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm happy as a punter and I could

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Speaker 2: get access to a GP for what for most of

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Speaker 2: us anyway, is a bit of a once over lightly

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Speaker 2: in the script for you know whatever, then that solves

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Speaker 2: my problem. Who cares?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Look, and perhaps we should just put vending machines and

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Speaker 16: corners say people don't even have to get professional opinions.

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Speaker 16: I mean, but in the end, it's actually making the

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Speaker 16: problem worse because the Teally Health Service is sucking GPS

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Speaker 16: out of actual providing care to people in clinics. I've

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Speaker 16: got someone told me the other day their service used

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Speaker 16: to have five GPS. Well they're not actually GPS on

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Speaker 16: Telly Healthy might say, but now they've got seventy five,

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Speaker 16: so that's seventy GPS less in our system. It's actually

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Speaker 16: a vicious cycle that takes people.

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Speaker 11: Out of the system.

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Speaker 16: They can't provide care and clinics, so people end up

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Speaker 16: bringing the tally. Health offering is quite a lot easier

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Speaker 16: as a job for doctors. So the doctors that are

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Speaker 16: doing it are very sensible. That's an easier job, there's

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Speaker 16: less paperwork, they probably get paid as much, if not more.

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Speaker 16: So it's actually making the problem worse.

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Speaker 2: But it depends on what you're looking to do. I

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Speaker 2: understand your defense of it, and I sort of agree

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Speaker 2: to it. But for the punter, for the consumer, if

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Speaker 2: it works, it works, doesn't it. And this is the

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Speaker 2: way of the future, And then you're going to add

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Speaker 2: AI and it's going to change the whole thing completely.

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Speaker 16: We are in the changing environment I have. I cannot

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Speaker 16: agree with you more. But look, if you look at

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Speaker 16: some of the data from the rout the ROBUTSAB this

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Speaker 16: is just this is just a snapshot of self reported stuff.

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Speaker 16: But if you look at the data from the telehealth services,

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Speaker 16: who can go for a while, about twenty percent of

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Speaker 16: people end up having to go to the GP. So

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Speaker 16: this kind of stuff they've got here is probably an outlier.

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Speaker 16: So if you have to go and see the GP

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Speaker 16: after a Telly sealth service and paid twice, that's not

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Speaker 16: entirely good for the punter. And there's certainly some well

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Speaker 16: recognized issues overseas of people coming to harm from Telly

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Speaker 16: self because they actually miss things because they're missing out

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Speaker 16: one of the key safe offering operating procedures that we do,

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Speaker 16: which is examination.

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Speaker 2: God on angers appreciate it very much. Doctor anders Chambis's

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Speaker 2: the GIN pro chair. Is he defending his patch and

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Speaker 2: the service is good? Or has he got a point?

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Speaker 2: It is thirteen past seven, Bilmer. We'll get to this

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Speaker 2: in a moment. Pulled my son out of school on

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Speaker 2: the fifteenth birthday, got signed off by the Ministry of

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Speaker 2: ed went straight onto a building site. If sixteen got

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Speaker 2: a pretty ship through the BCO. Five years on, he's

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Speaker 2: qualified and moving into his own house that he and

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Speaker 2: I built at the weekends morning.

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I left school at fifteen, now own a dairy farm

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Speaker 2: at the ripe old age of thirty four. School wasn't

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Speaker 2: for me. So the record numbers are fifteen year old's

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Speaker 2: leaving school. Should we be alarmed or is this a

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Speaker 2: pathway to a better life? Thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered

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Speaker 2: Talks at b OMG. Mike, the telehealth system has a

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Speaker 2: massive impact for everyday people. Quicker service, small issues dealt

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Speaker 2: to doctor angus is afraid of business being at risk?

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Speaker 2: Come back to that seventeen past interesting insight into who's

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Speaker 2: leaving school and potentially why. Last year we had thirteen

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six fifteen year olds being granted an

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Speaker 2: early exemption, highest numbers since two thousand and seven. Upsideers

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Speaker 2: most of them, ninety percent of them seem to continue

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Speaker 2: when study in places like politics.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 2: Andy England is the Dnfield High School principal and as

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Speaker 2: with us, Andy, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I've got you at eight hundred and fortyish pupils at

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Speaker 2: your school. So you're talking about year elevenish kids coming

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Speaker 2: to you and saying I want out right, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: Year eleven occasionally in the year ten as well, but

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Speaker 11: doesn't usually happen in year ten. Yeah. We haven't seen

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Speaker 11: a huge increase at our school. But I'm aware across

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Speaker 11: the country there has been and I think the key

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Speaker 11: part of this story is that there's an increase in

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Speaker 11: the acceptance of their applications and what I don't necessarily

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Speaker 11: things about things.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, that's good. Let me come back to that.

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Speaker 2: In the moment when you say the application, is it

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Speaker 2: automatically granted? Can you say I'm over this and I

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Speaker 2: want out or not?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 11: No, not at all that it has to be assessed.

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Speaker 11: So there's a three stage. You have to apply to

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Speaker 11: the parent, ust organize it, and it has to come

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Speaker 11: to the principal for approval. We have to state what's

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Speaker 11: happening within the school, and then it has to go

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Speaker 11: to the ministry, and it has to be an either

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Speaker 11: an employer or a tertiary provider. Also state what they're

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Speaker 11: going to do next.

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Speaker 2: When they come to you, do you go, I could

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Speaker 2: see this kid coming. You knew it was going to

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Speaker 2: be that way.

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Speaker 11: Not always, We've had a few surprise ones. Sometimes you do.

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Speaker 11: Yet sometimes students clearly just what do you talk about?

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Speaker 11: The roundhole in the square, the round pig, So you

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Speaker 11: sometimes get that as well. Not all students fit. I

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Speaker 11: think in your story that's on the website. That's quite right.

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Speaker 11: Not all students fit all that well in school, but

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Speaker 11: we do our best and we statistically if a student longer,

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Speaker 11: students stays in school, the best outcomes for them. But

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Speaker 11: of course stats are stats, and not every student fits

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Speaker 11: that mole.

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Speaker 2: That's true, So the two the numbers don't actually add up.

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Speaker 2: So thirteen hundred and seventy six fifteen year olds leaving,

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Speaker 2: but suddenly two thy fifteen year olds are at Polytech,

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Speaker 2: so they're learning trades and stuff at Polytech. Would that

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Speaker 2: be your assumption or assessment of it.

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Speaker 11: We've been doing well, yeah, so school's been working really

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Speaker 11: hard on working with polytechs. The Ministry runs a yuth

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Speaker 11: G and TEE program for about fifteen years maybe, and

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Speaker 11: it's a really good program. Students can spend it at

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Speaker 11: one or two days a week in a Politech or

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Speaker 11: another Tertory provider and they can blend that in with

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Speaker 11: a schoolwork. Sometimes they want to go and do that

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Speaker 11: full time, and they want to do that before this

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Speaker 11: in sixteen. So in those cases we would or we

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Speaker 11: would seek and LX we call them an earlier leave exemption.

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Speaker 2: So there isn't out see I left school at sixteen.

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Speaker 2: School wasn't for me, but I had a part. I

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Speaker 2: was going to do things and as it turns out,

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Speaker 2: it worked out. Okay. So if they can say that

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Speaker 2: to you, I'm going to be a builder, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be a farmer, I'm going to be a trade

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Speaker 2: that's no bad thing.

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Not?

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Speaker 11: Necessarily?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 11: And I think you've touched on a really important point there.

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Speaker 11: Many of the role models, particularly in the rural areas

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Speaker 11: where we are, but many of the many of the

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Speaker 11: student's role models didn't go all the way through school

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Speaker 11: when he left at fifteen and a successful business people

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Speaker 11: running trades, companies and so on. So role models often

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Speaker 11: don't have an academic pathway.

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Speaker 2: Great inside, Andy, well done, Andy England, who's staffield High

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Speaker 2: Principle with us this morning. Proper is right now. The

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Speaker 2: apprenticeship opportunities, Mike a less than they were five years ago.

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Speaker 2: That's true, But when you're fifteen sixteen year old, you

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Speaker 2: know you're not looking at the economy immediately where you

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Speaker 2: see your pathway and if you're determined to make it happen,

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Speaker 2: it will happen. Mike, my son left at fifteen, which

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Speaker 2: for me, being a teacher was hard to take. He

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Speaker 2: went straight into a building program now twenty two fully

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Speaker 2: qualified with apprentices under him. So that's encouraging. I also

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Speaker 2: have for you the Employment Hero survey results out yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and I see some encouraging signs on the job markets.

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Speaker 2: I'll have that for you shortly seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: twenty three. I've been wondering when the penny would drop,

874
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: and yesterday just might have been at two stories no less,

875
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: two stories just yesterday on Chris Hopkins problems with the

876
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: Marii Party. You see, for all the energy the media

877
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: wants to put into Christopher Luxen and his future, the

878
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: very obvious other side of the coin, if they ever

879
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: wanted to explore it, lies in the very real issue

880
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: for labor in the in even coming close to putting

881
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: together the numbers to form a government. Now, the genesis

882
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: of the coverage came out of the fairest posts on

883
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: all the Asians and the Blacks and the other races

884
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: byerly managed to pedal in the lead up to last

885
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: Saturdays to barkle up a by election. The Maori Party

886
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: had to apologize and obviously Hepkins had to face the

887
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: growing reality that these folks are crazies and not remotely

888
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: interested in being helpful, useful or part of a coalition.

889
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: Why this hasn't occurred to more in the media before Now,

890
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: I've got no idea other than to offer the suggestion

891
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: it may just be a bit inconvenient for them and

892
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: their agendas and it's far easier to help build on

893
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: the so called demise of the Prime Minister. But yesterday

894
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: we got there at last simple questions, how does Labor

895
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: even begin to form a deal with the Maori Party?

896
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: And this is one for the coverage of the Poles

897
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: as well. See you will note in polls and the

898
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: way they're presented, they're presented as a simple center left,

899
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: center right number collection right, a collection of parties added up,

900
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: and the headline is formed from the result of the maths.

901
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: And this week's curiopole, for example, there was to be

902
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: apparently a change of government, but it involves each time

903
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: the assumption and what an assumption it is that Labor

904
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: and the Greens and the Maray Party are one group

905
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: and no such thing has ever happened. And let me

906
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: make this prediction for you right now this morning. It

907
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: never will. So add the numbers of likely groupings and

908
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: you are left with labor and maybe the Greens. Do

909
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: they get to government? No they don't. So Hipkins, given

910
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: it's his issue, not the Marray parties, has to answer

911
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: the very simple question will you work with the Marray Party?

912
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: And if so, how, what jobs do they get? What

913
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 2: policies are theirs are you implementing? And given he can't

914
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: answer that, and dare I suggest won't he needs to

915
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: grow his party support to about forty percent, which he

916
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: can't and he won't either, which is why he's not

917
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: winning the election next year. Oski having completed a year

918
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: thirteen and gained a university entrance, my experience was that

919
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: those of us who had finished school were heads and

920
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: shoulders above those who hadn't when graduating for our trades,

921
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: fair Point, Mike, I run a large company, left school

922
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: at sixteen, but we'd been taught the basics by then.

923
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the case now, fair

924
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: Port Point. My son wanted an electrical apprenticeship He worked

925
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: for free at three different venues until they decided to

926
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: hire him. He's now a third year qualifying next year.

927
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: Well well done you. You know when I left at sixteen,

928
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: I genuinely felt there was nothing more school could do

929
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: for me. I got school served, I got ue. Those

930
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: were the rules in the day. You didn't need to

931
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: go to seventh form. What was the point unless you

932
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: were going to university. I wasn't. The Hero Employment Survey

933
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: SMEs a lot of responses, seventy thousand of them. Job

934
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: market for eighteen to twenty four year olds has improved

935
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: markedly their words, not mine. Sixty four percent of the

936
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: over fifty fives they're troubled is where the survey falls

937
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: flat a bit. They doubted they would find another role quickly.

938
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what's that. That's perception. It's not real, is it.

939
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: So the surveyed improved on last year's. It is a

940
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: challenging job market still, so, I make no mistakes about that.

941
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: But there aren't bright spots. The job market has at

942
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: least stabilized, hospo and retailer hiring again, employment jumping by

943
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: nineteen percent in the Tago. The South Island job numbers

944
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: are up as you expect. Rural and tourism is rebounding,

945
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: which is good. We're now likely to see a modest

946
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: pick up in the second half of twenty twenty five.

947
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: That's the snapshot from the Employment hero People as regards

948
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: jobs in the economy, the Advisory Group for Organized Crime

949
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: Report number five. We've reported on the previous fours. We're

950
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: locked into this now. Suggesting this morning is we need

951
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: one minister to oversee this because there's not a lot

952
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: of communication between the various departments. Where have we heard

953
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: that before? More After the News.

954
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The Mike

955
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956
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957
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Togs head be Mikah, Are you going to mention Hipkin's

958
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: dressing down as finance minister? It's not a finance minister,

959
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: it's a finance spokesperson wanting to increase inflation. Liz No,

960
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't because it's a bit convoluted. It came out

961
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: of the thing I mentioned on the program yesterday, echoed

962
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: Kellier cold of Westpac came up with the idea. I

963
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: don't know whether I agree with them. Or not clearly

964
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: by Edmonds, does that they want to the Reserve Bank

965
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: want to increase the band for inflation from zero to

966
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: three or one to three to something a little bit higher,

967
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: because he argues, historically we've said at about two and

968
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: a half percent, which is technically true. What I was

969
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: more impressed with was the idea that the Reserve Bank

970
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: needs to be more open. They need to answer more questions,

971
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: hold more press releases and expose the Monetary Committee to

972
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: who voted for what and why and when and how.

973
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: But it is an insight into the Labor Party as

974
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: to one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing.

975
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: But Ginny Anderson, I'm sure will defend them. After eight

976
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: o'clock twenty three to eight, new report from the Advisory

977
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: Group on organized crime. This time it's focused on the

978
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: accountability of our transnational response. We have sadly a lack

979
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: of cohesion that is undermining our ability to tackle this

980
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: particular issue. The recommendation is a new government minister is

981
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: solely responsible for transnational crime. Steve Simon, of course chair

982
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: of this Ministerial Advisory Group and is with us. Steve,

983
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

984
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 4: Good morning here.

985
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: I think I'm right in saying it's your number five, now,

986
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: aren't you five?

987
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 11: That's correct?

988
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Out of how many? How many are coming?

989
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: This is our last monthly report before we have our

990
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: final report for September where we recommend the solution to

991
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: this problem of organized crime.

992
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: As you sit here this morning and I don't want

993
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: to pre final report number six, do you have a solution?

994
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Do you have something that people can go aha? Got it?

995
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: Yes, we do.

996
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 8: Good.

997
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: It will be bold and will require the government to

998
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: be bold.

999
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 7: But we have a solution.

1000
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: Fantastic. And are you, from your experience and interactions with

1001
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: the government so far, bullish on the possibility of that

1002
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: being picked up and run with or you're a bit

1003
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: circumspects Still we're bullish.

1004
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: We've got a lot of support. We've had a lot

1005
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 4: of encouragement from government, from agencies, from the public. It's

1006
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: just as you know, whether that translates into the financial

1007
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: support and the political will that it will need.

1008
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we'll get you back on the program at

1009
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: the time. Back to this report. The cohesion all between

1010
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: who sore you talking about the Board of the Police, etc.

1011
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: I take it we've got great work being done by

1012
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: individual agencies, but each agency is focusing on their particular homework.

1013
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: What we have a problem with is that siloed approach

1014
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: is meaning we don't have an overall picture of what

1015
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: we're doing with organized crime.

1016
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: No, this can't surprise you, presumably.

1017
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: No it doesn't. We knew this from the start. We've

1018
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: got a lot of experienced people in the committee who

1019
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: know this problem. And what we're saying is, let's confront

1020
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: that problem, give it a solution. Take one person who

1021
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: is responsible for standing up in front of the public

1022
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 4: and saying, what are we doing about organized crime? How

1023
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: are we taking the fight now?

1024
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: This is interesting because then New Zealand Initiative wrote a report.

1025
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Speaker 2: In fact, it was a report of a report they'd

1026
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: done before. We have too many ministers in this country,

1027
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: and the ministers are sliced up too many ways, building

1028
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: and construction, housing, et cetera, all separate portfolios. This in

1029
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: your area, presumably is the same issue.

1030
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: We've got some thirteen ministers who could play a hand

1031
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: in organized crime. Our point is that spread tooth them.

1032
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: We need someone that the government the public can look

1033
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: to to say, this is the person who's taking the

1034
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: fight to organize crime and then a supporter to make

1035
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: sure those other agencies are doing their job as well

1036
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: as they can.

1037
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: So you need a Minister of organized crime, yes, right,

1038
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: So the held accountable thing, who would it be? I

1039
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: mean just off that would it be naturally the police minister,

1040
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 2: or it could be anybody.

1041
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: It could be any minister, our priority strong minister who

1042
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: is in cabinet, who has a firm voice, because the

1043
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: task that they would be taking on will be obviously

1044
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: a very challenging one and quite confronting one, and so

1045
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: they're going to have to have be quite bold.

1046
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Is the held accountable part of it? Lack of accountability?

1047
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: Is it that they don't want to be held to

1048
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: account or is it they can be held to account,

1049
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: they just want to point the finger at somebody else

1050
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: at that department over there that's not doing their job.

1051
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: I think it's more a case of the agencies are

1052
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: doing a good job a lot of there's a lot

1053
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: of good people working in these agencies doing a lot

1054
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 4: of good work, but there's no one standing back and

1055
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: joining it together. For example, the information Sharing report we

1056
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 4: did last month where we talked about there isn't fluid

1057
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: information sharing going across the agencies so that we can

1058
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: target organized crime. No one's packing that up because it's

1059
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: important to each individual agency, but no one's standing back

1060
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 4: and saying, well, collectively, we need to do this if

1061
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: we're going to fight organized crime properly.

1062
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, do you feel at this particular point of the

1063
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: cycle in your term as chair of this that you're

1064
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: adding real value to the conversation, the knowledge and potentially

1065
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 2: an outcome. In other words, this has been worth your while.

1066
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: I think it has been worth my while. It's certainly

1067
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: we're poured our energy into it. I've got a really

1068
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 4: great committee. It's very passionate about this work, and we're

1069
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: all at a station in our career where we're doing

1070
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 4: this because we want to make a difference. The rhetoric

1071
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: hearing is that we are making a difference. Even now,

1072
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: we're seeing some response by agencies. We're seeing great support

1073
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: then and the proof will be in the pudding next month.

1074
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: Good stuff, mate, we'll catch up then. Appreciate it very much.

1075
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Speaker 2: Steve Simon Sherr of the Ministerially Advisory Group for Organized Crime.

1076
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Speaker 2: I'll get some comment from Mike Mitchell when they join us.

1077
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Speaker 2: He joins us along with Ginny after eight eighteen.

1078
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1079
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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike manufacturing stats and decline for the quarter. Surely

1081
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: it's not this quarter, it's last quarter Q two. Surely

1082
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: this calls for more drastic action from the RB. Don't

1083
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: even get me started about the RB. These are the

1084
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Speaker 2: numbers that Andrew gave us earlier on this morning. So

1085
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Speaker 2: these are numbers that were dumped yesterday, jobs numbers, manufacturing numbers,

1086
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: et cetera. They are from Q two. They will be

1087
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: added up and worked over and they'll be presented in

1088
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: the overall Q two GDP number which is coming out

1089
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: next week. It will be in decline, it will be backwards.

1090
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: So we went up in Q one and a lot

1091
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: and a lot more than we thought. Good, fantastic. Then

1092
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: we fell apart. The crime and falling apart was the

1093
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank. And never forget this, the Reserve Bank didn't

1094
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: see it. So the people in charge of overseeing the

1095
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: economy in its state and playing their particular role it

1096
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: is limited, but nevertheless they have a role and protecting

1097
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: us from that. They were absent. They were working from

1098
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: home that day. They didn't see it, and the cuts

1099
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: that should have come didn't come. They held, remember, they held,

1100
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: and they finally got drag kicking and screaming last time

1101
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: for another quarter point. They should have gone. I've forgotten

1102
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: his name, but Kiwi Bank, Jared, the economist at Kiwibanks.

1103
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: He's been saying fifty to fifteen, Gregg Smith, our Greg Smith,

1104
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: fifty fifty, fifty, fifty and fifty and they've not listened

1105
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: to it, and they're right, and the clowns at the

1106
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: RB are wrong. So anyway, what do you do now?

1107
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: Then I go and infuriate myself further by looking up

1108
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: members of the the Advertising Standards Authority. Now I don't

1109
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: deal much with the Advertising Standards Authority because I'm not

1110
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: really in advertising. I'm in broadcasting an ideal with the BSA.

1111
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: And there are a bunch of clowns as well, and

1112
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: just a complete and utter waste of time. I mean,

1113
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: they're not clowns in the sense I know one of

1114
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: the guys on it, John, my mate John's on it,

1115
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: and he's a good guy. But what a waste. And

1116
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: the ASA appears to be the same because they've come

1117
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: out and they were was it the ASA and the BSA.

1118
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: We're going to be joined together and that's now off. Yeah,

1119
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: that's another Paul Goldsmith's special. I don't know what he's

1120
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: been doing. I mean, I like Paul as well. My

1121
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: problem is I've got a big heart and I just

1122
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: like everybody, even when they're incompetent. So Paul Goldsmith's a

1123
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: nice guy. But what he's doing in media, I've got

1124
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: no idea because he hasn't done a damn thing. So

1125
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: they were going to move ASA and the BSA, but

1126
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: they're not going to do that for reasons best known

1127
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: to themselves anyway. Meantime, back at the ASA, they announced

1128
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: yesterday the Tina from Turner's ad, which is the one

1129
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: with the lines the cops are looking for it, the

1130
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: one your auntie says, look shit, you got so fat,

1131
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: the seats don't fit, you know, the one we all

1132
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: laughed at, thought that's quite a cool add.

1133
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: Team, and then eventually got thoroughly sick and tired.

1134
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: That's it, the same with all advertising. But I mean

1135
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: it's in trouble for for it. No, no, it's not. Unfortunately,

1136
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Tina from Turner's is probably one and Glenn and I

1137
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: are old copywriters where we crafted. We crafted away for

1138
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: many years writing ads. So we're creatives. Not only do

1139
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: we have big hearts, but we're creatives. We know a

1140
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: good we know a good campaign when we see one.

1141
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: So Tina from Turner's is one of the cleverest modern

1142
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: interpretations of creative expression. We've seen many, many a year.

1143
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: But oh no, the good old ASA, some some idiot,

1144
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: his name will be Brian, he will have complained about this,

1145
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: And anyway, the ASA decided yesterday the ad was quote

1146
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: a disgrace to Kiwi's because of the aforementioned line. Because

1147
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: the spinning they're smoking up, they're doing a burnout. Now

1148
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: that allegedly means that that's a legal activity and shouldn't

1149
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: be in an ad. I mean, come on, and when

1150
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: we've got the line, the cops are looking for it.

1151
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: That implies the car stolen, that all of that if

1152
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: you have literally no sense of humor and you're barely

1153
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: human and you take yourself far too bloody. Seriously, the

1154
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: rest of us just found it entertaining and engaging in

1155
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: a very successful campaign. So when I get to be

1156
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Minister of Broadcasting, let me write this law.

1157
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 4: I remember I rode An ad once for a liquor

1158
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: store and they were selling something. Then I said it

1159
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: was going to warm the cockles of your heart now,

1160
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: And I wasn't allowed to say that because it was

1161
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 4: making a medical claim.

1162
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: See thing that because you were doing that in nineteen

1163
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: seventy three. See things haven't changed that bay. So when

1164
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: I get to be a Minister of Broadcasting, the first

1165
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: thing I'm going to do is close down the ASA,

1166
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: followed very shortly by the BSA and we can all

1167
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: get on with life.

1168
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: Tend to wait the mate hosking breakfast with rainthrowver news

1169
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: togs dead being.

1170
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: Seven away from eight And an idea for our rearport's

1171
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: integration is what they're talking about, bringing domestic into international

1172
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: terminals together. The Mercurious Group have done this particular work

1173
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 2: there so when ease customer angst overheads and ultimately deliver

1174
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: cheaper plane tickets. Do you believe that? Billy Moore's the

1175
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: chief executive at New Zealand the Airport's Association, And as

1176
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: with us, Billy, good morning. I believe you're in China.

1177
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: Are you up early for us?

1178
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 17: I sure am anything for your listeners.

1179
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: You're very kind, Billy very well, said has this report

1180
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: got a logic to it.

1181
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 11: Absolutely it does.

1182
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 17: Integration is the dream for all airports. It helps airports

1183
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 17: build better and save on KPEX spend over time. It

1184
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 17: also makes a passenger experience better, access to more amenities,

1185
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 17: and better and often less screening processes. So they're definitely

1186
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 17: onto something with this.

1187
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: They say integration's quite common overseas, not so much here.

1188
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: Is that true?

1189
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's right. There's a few reasons why. There's a

1190
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 17: couple of different aspects to this. Our goal ultimately would

1191
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 17: be for harmonized screening processes, so that's where domestic and

1192
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 17: international screening processes would be the same, meaning we could

1193
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 17: integrate screening the lanes and dwell spaces. The report talks

1194
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 17: about the fact that there's also stage screening, so processes

1195
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 17: where international and domestic passengers are screened together first in

1196
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 17: the international passagers screen another time stay at the gate

1197
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 17: before you head to your flight. That's possible in places

1198
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 17: like Australia. They highlight Adelaide and part of the reason

1199
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 17: for that will be because the reports manage security screening

1200
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 17: in Australia themselves, rather than it being a government agency

1201
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 17: like we have here, giving them more flexibility in how

1202
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 17: they apply it.

1203
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: Do you believe? And all reports would say the same thing.

1204
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Once you get these so called efficiencies, everyone saves money

1205
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: and the fees are cheaper and the tickets are cheap

1206
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: And none of that's actually true is it in reality?

1207
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 8: Oh?

1208
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 17: Look, it's a little bit more nuanced than that when

1209
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 17: it's a priority for us, because when we look at it,

1210
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 17: we're planning it. Infrastructure speen in safe thirty years in advance.

1211
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 17: There as savings from kfex planning when you can create

1212
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 17: more spaces, But where the savings come in are where

1213
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 17: you can lay around the operational efficiencies on top of that.

1214
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 17: So for instance, look at Wellington right now, you've got

1215
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 17: three screening areas. If you can reduce that down, the

1216
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 17: operational savings from staffing etc. On top of that really

1217
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 17: do make a difference. So it's about the combination of

1218
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 17: things and creating better spaces and better efficiencies on top

1219
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 17: of that.

1220
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: The report talks about a moving passengers into a singular

1221
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 2: depressurized experience. Is that just gobbledy Google? Is that real?

1222
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 17: Look at as real? The more that you can have

1223
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 17: one space, it means that passengers will have access to

1224
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 17: more retail more amenity. Sometimes at some reports you do

1225
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 17: find that when you get through to your secure boarding

1226
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 17: area of his list to do so, they're highlighting that,

1227
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 17: you know, there can be a better experience for everyone,

1228
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 17: the greater the spaces and the more integrated the spaces

1229
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 17: that people can wait in.

1230
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Good on your Billy, What time is it four o'clock?

1231
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 17: It's three fifty six.

1232
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you do now? You're going back

1233
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: to better? Are you going for a little bit of breakfast?

1234
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: Oh?

1235
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 17: Look, I'll probably have a little bit more restore over here.

1236
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 17: I'm doing some cooperation with the Chinese efforts, and look,

1237
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 17: the volumes they deal with always have big ideas for us.

1238
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 17: So I'll have some sleep and get ready for some

1239
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 17: more discussions.

1240
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: Ah, it's a pleasure. Billy nice one. Billy Moore, chief

1241
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: Executive News in the Neapols Association up for us at

1242
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: three fifty five in the morning, which reminds me of

1243
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: Simon Watts, Minister of the Crown, who the other day

1244
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: was in Canberra and would have needed to have been

1245
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 2: up to us, up for us at five point thirty

1246
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: in the morning, but apparently that was far too early,

1247
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: far too early for a Minister, but not too early

1248
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: for Billy Moore in China. Just saying so, Mark and

1249
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: Jenny Foress in the next half hour of the program

1250
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: before we go to Steve Price out of Australia. Meantime,

1251
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: the news is, oh, by the way, the Muwana Pacific story.

1252
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: I've got to get that to year before eight thirty

1253
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: and nine, the Mwana Pacific story. Remember the government money,

1254
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: the loans, et cetera. New developments on that for you

1255
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: as well.

1256
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: Meantime news is next, setting the agenda and talking the

1257
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: big issues. The Mic Hasting Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, communities,

1258
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: Life your Way, News togs dead b.

1259
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: She sang incomprehensible, and she sang incomprehensible. All right, she hike.

1260
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: This will be the sixth album. The fifth was a

1261
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: sprawling double LP. An LP was really an LP. We

1262
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: even have LPs anymore? I'm not sure lest anyway, So

1263
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: there will be the sixth album, the first to be

1264
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: recorded without their founding basis Max. Max is gone.

1265
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: It is big thief.

1266
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: So I've never heard of them, should I hear?

1267
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1268
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: Right, so that's good. Do you just say that to

1269
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: placate me. Yeah, it's just say more and more people

1270
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: set me up these days because I've become a focus

1271
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: of some Tom prulering and laughter. Osco. Let's just set

1272
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: him up again. Double Infinity is the name of the album,

1273
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: and there's forty five minutes and fifty two seconds and

1274
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: took them nine tracks to get that far. It's all right,

1275
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: This is all right. If I wanted to do a

1276
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: cafe of wrong lounge on a Sunday morning today, the kids,

1277
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: it's got a bit loose on the stereo again, slight.

1278
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: It's eight minutes past eight. It is time for politics Wednesday.

1279
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell both with us. Good morning, Good morning,

1280
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: by j right, good morning. Let's just do the let's

1281
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: just do the obvious thing firstly and move on to

1282
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,959
Speaker 2: some other issues. Ginny you first, you as a former

1283
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 2: Minister of Police, your observations of the last couple of days.

1284
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 20: Are you talking about Tom Phillips. Yes, just a tragedy,

1285
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 20: an absolute tragedy for the community, for the family and

1286
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 20: the children, and for the police officer who's been critically injured,

1287
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 20: in his family and colleagues. So no one wins out

1288
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 20: of situations like this, and it's a tough time for

1289
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 20: all of New Zealand to watch this roll out to

1290
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 20: day by.

1291
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: Day and from your observation, did the police over the

1292
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: last four years and you would have been part of

1293
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: this of course do their job.

1294
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 20: I think the police do an amazing job, and this

1295
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 20: is an incredibly complex situation. I've been into that area

1296
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 20: myself over the last few years and looked around and

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Speaker 20: it is a very remote and difficult part of New

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Speaker 20: Zealand to navigate, with a lot of back roads. So

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Speaker 20: I think the police did everything they could, keeping in

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Speaker 20: mind that there are three children involved at the same time.

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Speaker 21: Mark, Yeah, I mean the police is quite simply you've

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Speaker 21: been outstanding. The Commissioner and I spent time with the

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Speaker 21: officer's family yesterday. We took his wife with us up

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Speaker 21: to the hospital to visit him. He's got a long

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Speaker 21: road to recovery, but he's got a road to recovery

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Speaker 21: and that's what we're thankful about. Just wanted to reassure

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Speaker 21: him that, of course, his family going to be looked

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Speaker 21: after and have the support wrapped around that they need

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Speaker 21: and a chance to be able to acknowledge him in

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Speaker 21: the outstanding work that he did. The two officers that

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Speaker 21: were with him, without a doubt saved his life. It

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Speaker 21: was obvious that Phillips was intent on killing him through

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Speaker 21: his actions, and of course, the huge relief is that

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Speaker 21: now we've got those children in a safe situation where

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Speaker 21: they can be looked after and get them back on

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Speaker 21: a healthy pathway to recovery as well.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a view, Mark? Is it enough now

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Speaker 2: for the media that the media need to back off

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Speaker 2: and just like let this thing play out and some

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Speaker 2: of the kids to be left alone and the agencies

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Speaker 2: to do their job, or is there enough interest from

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Speaker 2: the public to know more and therefore the sort of

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Speaker 2: coverage we're starting to see as acceptable.

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Speaker 21: I think there's genuine public interest in this, of course,

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Speaker 21: and so they'll probably and the police will keep the

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Speaker 21: public updated in terms of as the investigations progress. But

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Speaker 21: I think that if I think all of us as key,

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Speaker 21: we as a country would agree that the privacy of

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Speaker 21: those children, looking after those children and giving them the

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Speaker 21: best possible start get will restart is what everyone is

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Speaker 21: focused on.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a view, Ginny?

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Speaker 20: I think it reflects the age that we live in

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Speaker 20: where everybody gets to be a commentator because of social media,

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Speaker 20: and when you're talking about the well being of three

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Speaker 20: young people. It does make it really difficult. They've still

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Speaker 20: got to live here in New Zealand and grow up

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Speaker 20: in New Zealand. So my foremost concerns that their privacy

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Speaker 20: and their well being is protected, and that's a challenging

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Speaker 20: time given that the age we live in.

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Speaker 2: What mark do you do? And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: get you in trouble or anyone in trouble. I'm just

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Speaker 2: interested in this. There's a suppression order here. That suppression

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Speaker 2: order does not apply clearly to social media and it

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Speaker 2: will not apply to the international media once they get

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Speaker 2: their hands on. What do you do as a legislator?

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Speaker 2: Are we living as the horse bolted? In other words?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just essentially a waste of time.

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Speaker 21: Well, I agree with you that we live in an

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Speaker 21: age now where people are going to report things online.

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Speaker 21: But obviously you know in our position as ministers that

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Speaker 21: we have to the courts have put out directions on

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Speaker 21: this case at the moment, which means that there are

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Speaker 21: certain things that we can't talk about and we just

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Speaker 21: have to be we have to comply with that. But

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Speaker 21: you're right that international media, those that aren't that don't

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Speaker 21: have to comply with those rules, will report on things

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Speaker 21: and get information out there.

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Speaker 2: So, Jenny, what's the point.

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Speaker 20: I mean, we had the same situation with the Grace

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Speaker 20: Malane case where there were identity details released about the

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Speaker 20: offender in that instance that were not that were made

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Speaker 20: public and compromised the judicial process here in New Zealand

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Speaker 20: and so you know, I think potentially we could take

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Speaker 20: another look at our laws, you know, around how are

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Speaker 20: they working, how are we dealing with an age of

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Speaker 20: social media when privacy needs to be protected and order

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Speaker 20: for the integrity of judicial or an inquiry to take its.

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Speaker 2: Place in BAK Sorry, no, it's going to say.

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Speaker 21: The point that why it's making though, is that our

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Speaker 21: laws did not extend internationally, so we cannot control what

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Speaker 21: people are doing in other countries or the or the

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Speaker 21: locked and donor at all effect. Quite the opposite, is it,

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Speaker 21: especially if you're taking into account young children. Yeah, a

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Speaker 21: responsibility around this is critically important, but that's not the

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Speaker 21: era that we live in.

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Speaker 11: No, it is not.

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Speaker 2: More on the Mima, Jinny Anderson, Mark Metell thirteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks It be Es Talks at Me sixteen past Junny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell a couple of quick comments if you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: mind mark you on Julie Christy as in the documentary maker,

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Speaker 2: she's got access apparently to some sort of inside information

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Speaker 2: from the police and is making a doco on this.

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Speaker 2: Is that acceptable in your view or not?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, I mean she's I think she's been making a

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Speaker 21: doco and following the story now for a while and

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Speaker 21: they've made they've gone through all the correct protocols and

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Speaker 21: made sure that they have done things the right way.

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Speaker 21: Of course, there's some things that they have access to

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Speaker 21: some areas and and and some people, and obviously where

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Speaker 21: it's appropriate, access is blocked. But from what I understand,

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Speaker 21: they've gone through all the correct protocols to be able.

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Speaker 2: To do that. How do we ask for privacy for

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Speaker 2: the kids while doing a documentary.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's something they're going to have to work out

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Speaker 21: and figure out, because of course, the priority around anything

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Speaker 21: that we do is going to be around the privacy

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Speaker 21: and the welfare of those children. So that is something

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Speaker 21: that police obviously will have to bring forward and work

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Speaker 21: out with Julie and the work they're doing.

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Speaker 2: You're going to view, Jinny.

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Speaker 20: Look, I'd have to say the details. I haven't been

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Speaker 20: privy to what they've been given access to. But my

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Speaker 20: primary concerns are these kids have to go to school

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Speaker 20: in New Zealand. They have to live, no doubt in

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Speaker 20: small town New Zealand, and so my concern is that

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Speaker 20: when you get things like that yet, it just increases

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Speaker 20: your tension on them in their lives, and that's really

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Speaker 20: my worry.

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Speaker 2: You said something interesting, Jenny, I may have misinterpreted what

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Speaker 2: you were meaning you talked about. You'd been there. It's

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Speaker 2: a difficult part of the country. What surprised me is

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Speaker 2: the reaction we've had over the last few years from

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Speaker 2: some of the people who live in that area and

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Speaker 2: support that going. It strikes me there is something wrong

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Speaker 2: with parts of New Zealand. Or it's just maybe that

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Speaker 2: we're in urban New Zealand completely out of touch with

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Speaker 2: that particular style of New Zealand living. But it seems

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Speaker 2: to me at times a different world.

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Speaker 20: It is a different world. I've been into that road.

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Speaker 20: It's one road into essentially quite a closed community who

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Speaker 20: everyone knows each other. There's kind of a local agreement

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Speaker 20: that you only let someone by land once they pass

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Speaker 20: a test, and they all have a say on who

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Speaker 20: gets to come in. So it's a very tight knit,

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Speaker 20: closed community and it's a very difficult terrain, and those

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Speaker 20: two kind of go hand in hand. So I think

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Speaker 20: that there are parts of there are parts there that

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Speaker 20: would have known where he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are they sort of sovereign citizen esque?

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Speaker 20: Well, I went into the pub and they seem very nice.

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Speaker 20: I had a good chat with a number of locals

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Speaker 20: in there, and they were very welcoming and open. So

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Speaker 20: I wouldn't say so, but I'd say that everyone knows

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Speaker 20: who everyone is, and they know a lot about what

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Speaker 20: goes on locally, and it's very unusual to have a

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Speaker 20: stranger come into that community.

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Speaker 2: You agree, I just say that no.

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Speaker 21: I just think that our rural communities are quite simply outstanding.

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Speaker 21: They do look after each other and keep an eye

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Speaker 21: up for each other, but they're no different to any

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Speaker 21: other key we in the set of values that we hold,

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Speaker 21: and I think that I think that what I would

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Speaker 21: say is this is that the police are being very

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Speaker 21: clear and I'm being clear about this as well. Anyone

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Speaker 21: that has been supporting and enabling him. There is now

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Speaker 21: a very thorough ongoing police investigation and they will be

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Speaker 21: held to account.

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Speaker 2: Okay, super quick. On another thing News of the morning,

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Speaker 2: this ministerial inquiry and organized crime. Do you agree Mark

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Speaker 2: that we need a Minister of Organized Crime?

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Speaker 21: Well, I agree that we needed to have a Ministerial

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Speaker 21: Advisory Group set up to so that we could have

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Speaker 21: a look and see that. These are all recommendations that

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Speaker 21: have been forward. I'm not going to preempt it that

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Speaker 21: has to go through a full cabinet process. I'm not

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Speaker 21: going to pre empt any decisions that are going to

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Speaker 21: be in cabinet. But the one thing I would say

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Speaker 21: is that we already have already started work across government

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Speaker 21: to make sure that we have a much more joined

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Speaker 21: up approach to how we deal with youized international organized

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Speaker 21: crime and gangs and crime in this country.

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Speaker 20: Okay, Jinny, I've got yeah, I've seen from Justice Committee.

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Speaker 20: So we've got Nicole McKee who's getting rid of all

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Speaker 20: the red tape on anti money laundering with one hand

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Speaker 20: of the government, and the other hand, you've got Casey

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Speaker 20: Costello who's cracking down on an organized crime and making

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Speaker 20: sure it's tough for four gangs to do their business.

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Speaker 20: So just within this government alone, there's two quite different

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Speaker 20: agendas that they're conflicting in terms of how we have

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Speaker 20: one unified response.

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Speaker 21: Well, I'm in New Zealand, so I'm inside the government.

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Speaker 21: I work with both of those ladies that we sit

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Speaker 21: down together constantly figuring out what we need to do.

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Speaker 21: We're actually making really good in roads and dealing with

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Speaker 21: with both transnational crime and organized crime. Been over in

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Speaker 21: Australia and they're admiring the work.

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Speaker 7: That we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Are we working across ministers? However?

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Speaker 21: The mag report just gives us a good signal in

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Speaker 21: terms of how we continue to build on that work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, real quick, both of you, because just to get

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Speaker 2: a comment that this is typical of the texts, we're

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Speaker 2: receiving a lot of not totally but a lot of

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Speaker 2: embarrassing for police not finding the guy for four years. Pathetic, Really, Genny,

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Speaker 2: you say.

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Speaker 20: Well, look, I think it's very difficult to understand how

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Speaker 20: that the work for the police pans out. So I'm

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Speaker 20: not going to pass judgment on New Zealand police. They

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Speaker 20: work incredibly in difficult situations and this one was a

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Speaker 20: complex case. So I think you need to have an

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Speaker 20: understanding of all those details, and I'm sure they will

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Speaker 20: come out once the investigation is complete, but I think

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Speaker 20: people need to see all of that information before they

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Speaker 20: pass judgment.

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Speaker 21: Mark Well, I totally reject that there shouldn't be passing

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Speaker 21: judgment like that if you actually have a look at

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Speaker 21: what unfolded with the arrest and the attempt at arrest

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Speaker 21: of Tom Phillips, is that he can he had multiple firearms,

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Speaker 21: he had intent to there was no way that he

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Speaker 21: was going to be taken peacefully, and he had three

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Speaker 21: children in the bush. It presented probably the worst case

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Speaker 21: scenario for police in terms of trying to deal with that,

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Speaker 21: and the forefront of their minds and everything that they're

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Speaker 21: doing was the safe recovery of those children. Of course

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Speaker 21: they wanted a peacefully outcome with Tom Phillips himself, but

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Speaker 21: it was very clear by the actions that we saw

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Speaker 21: unfold we now have a police officer with critical injuries

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Speaker 21: in hospital having to recover, and I think the police

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Speaker 21: quite simply have approached have taken the right approach on this.

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Speaker 21: It has always been around the safety of the children

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Speaker 21: and I think if they'd stumbled and it would have

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Speaker 21: been easy for them to put an operation together and

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Speaker 21: go in there and try and raid the camp and

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Speaker 21: recover them.

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Speaker 2: But look at what might have occurred.

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Speaker 21: In fact, probably what would have occurred, as you know,

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01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 21: you could have ended up with a complete tragedy with

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Speaker 21: the loss of the children.

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Speaker 2: All Right, guys, appreciate it very much. Mike Mitchell, Ginny

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Speaker 2: HR Institute yesterday tells us that twenty five percent of

1550
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Speaker 2: Australian businesses are looking to make redundancies in the September quarter.

1551
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: That's the quarter coming up. In other words, October November December.

1552
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: They're looking to lay off before Christmas. So what's turning?

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 2: Things aren't looking good in the job marketing and Australia.

1554
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: In the economy in general. The GDP figure has been downgraded.

1555
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: So this another matters with our very good friends Stephen

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: Price out of Australian Big Redland to the left of

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Speaker 2: us after the News, which is next on the mic Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast, The Breakfast Show Kiwis Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Rangrover leading by example, News,

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Speaker 1: Tom Send B Milke Morning.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone know why the Warriors aren't on Free to

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: wear at any time this weekend? Maybe Sunday for twenty

1563
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 2: minutes highlights? No, Well, I can tell you why they're not.

1564
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: Because the people who buy the rights pay money, and

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: when they pay the money, they then want the audience,

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 2: and they wrap some advertising and some marketing around that

1567
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: audience because they paid the money to recoup the money

1568
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: and hopefully make some profit. And the moment they say well,

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01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: look you like some free to air coverage, that audience

1570
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: disappears over there and it doesn't pay for Sky Sport.

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: And that's how that's how the whole thing works. The

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01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 2: only reason you'll see excuse me, like the World Cup

1573
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: next year and the football is because TV instead of one,

1574
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: for example, the World Cup, and they're a free to

1575
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: wear operators, so they want to boost the numbers on

1576
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: free to wear, so you'll see the All Whites game

1577
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: on free to wear but the rest you'll have to

1578
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: pay for, or occasionally something like the all Blacks will

1579
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: get a little free to wear outing or a delayed

1580
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 2: free to wear outing, because you know, there's a general

1581
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: acceptance that a national sportlight rugby should be seen by

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: the widest possible audience. But in the Warrior's case, that

1583
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: ain't how it works. Twenty three to nine.

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Speaker 14: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1585
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 14: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: I think three paces for this morning.

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Speaker 4: Mate.

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01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: Now you're indigenous treaty in Victoria. Will that mean people

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: from around Australia will go, my word, that's a good state.

1590
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: I can't wait to move there? Or will it not

1591
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: quite work that way?

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:06,560
Speaker 18: No?

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01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 7: I don't think it'll work that way. And as you know,

1594
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Speaker 7: when we went to a national referendum over a voice

1595
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 7: to the Australian Parliament through the Constitution, overwhelmingly Australians voted

1596
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Speaker 7: no over sixty percent. And that vote in Victoria even

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 7: was much higher than fifty percent, I think around fifty four.

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 7: But the hard left government in Victoria says, but no,

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 7: don't worry about that. We don't care what you voted

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Speaker 7: in a referendum, we're going to do it anyway, and

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Speaker 7: the legislation was introduced to Victorian Parliament yesterday. What does

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 7: it mean, Well, it means there'll be an established elected

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 7: Council of Indigenous Victorians, only Indigenous Victorians. It'll be called

1604
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 7: Gelung Wall. It'll have direct line to ministers, direct line

1605
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,480
Speaker 7: to department secretaries and even to the Victorian Police Commissioner.

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01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 7: The new body will have a dedicated office in Parliament,

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01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 7: in the People's Parliament, and the treaty will also seek

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 7: school children as young as four years old. So from

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 7: prep up talked about the enduring harm. That's a quote

1610
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 7: from the Bill of Colonization and parks and waterways will

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 7: be renamed. It's a thirty four page treaty agreement negotiated

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 7: over the last four years and will it will act

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 7: on things like recommendations for increased land rights, compensation and

1614
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 7: tax relief for Indigenous Victorians. So it's very wide spread.

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 7: It will touch every aspect of life because it says

1616
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 7: if you're an if you're trying to pass a law

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Speaker 7: in the Victorian Parliament and it affects Indigenous Australians.

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Speaker 2: Then we have a right to query that a couple

1619
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: of questions. Is it designed broadly from Jacenter's point of view,

1620
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: as a recognition of past wrongs, or is it set

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Speaker 2: out with specific KPIs to achieve things like access to education, welfare, etc.

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Speaker 7: Not the former, And it's already costs three hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 7: The actual office that I mentioned that will be established

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01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 7: inside the Victorian Parliament's just going to be slung a

1625
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 7: lazy seventy million dollars a year to operate. And this

1626
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 7: is in a state that is completely broke with pothole roads,

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 7: bad health services. I mean, seriously, this is probably the

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 7: last straw for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: The next question, when you say Indigenous Victorians in this

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01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: country to be Mari or to be recognized as Maray,

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: you simply have to say, I'm Maori. Is that the

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01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: same in Victoria?

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Speaker 7: I think there's a percentage. Don't quote me on this,

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 7: but I think it's around six percent.

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01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, how do you prove that?

1636
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 7: Is that?

1637
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: What's that?

1638
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 7: Who does sign a test resumed? Probably the DNA test?

1639
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 7: And I should point out that the indigenous population of Victoria,

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 7: the population of Victoria's about seven million, is about sixty

1641
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 7: eight thousand Indigenous Victorians or one percent of the population.

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, mate, You've made victory glory sound

1643
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: really just not today, but the various stories just really

1644
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 2: really appealing as a place. It's just like, bloody hell.

1645
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: Now the stabbing on these two boys, where are we at.

1646
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 7: We've got no arrest the group of eight who attacked

1647
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 7: these two boys on their way home from a basketball game,

1648
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 7: one twelve years old and one fifteen years old. The

1649
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 7: fifteen year old had his hand hacked off. I said

1650
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 7: that to you the other day. It's just horrendous. The

1651
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 7: heralds On newspapers managed to hack into one of the

1652
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 7: social media sites that these kids are using. They actually

1653
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 7: had to read the paper, had to ring Triple Oh

1654
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 7: yesterday and alert them that there was messages going between

1655
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 7: two students at two different schools about meeting up outside

1656
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 7: of schoolgate armed with machetes to respond to what happened

1657
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 7: on Saturday night at eight o'clock in the western suburbs

1658
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 7: of Melbourne. And the police turned up and they managed

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 7: to make sure that that did not occur. We are

1660
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 7: starting to see, you know, we knew this, but in

1661
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 7: the background, you've got this whole social media taunting. You've

1662
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 7: got the language, you've got the rap music, and we

1663
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 7: have a team crime crisis and the Premier won't admit it.

1664
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 7: In fact, yesterday in state Parliament the Opposition leader Brad

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01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 7: Batten became the first opposition leader I think for a

1666
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 7: couple of generations to be thrown out of parliament. He

1667
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 7: kept asking the Premier questions she refused to answer, and

1668
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 7: so he was banned from parliament for two weeks. Interesting,

1669
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 7: I mean, the whole thing is just out of control.

1670
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 2: Is he any good? Because the obvious question to ask

1671
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: is I mean, it's all very well, who's setting up

1672
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: recognition counsels and all that sort of stuff, But at

1673
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 2: the end of the day, they do keep getting reelected.

1674
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 2: Is he leading a resurgence of the coalition or not?

1675
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 7: No, he's not the answer, Sadley. He's a very nice bloke, Brad,

1676
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 7: former police officer, former prison officer, but he just does

1677
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 7: have no cut through. They desperately need a high profile

1678
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 7: Conservative or middle Conservative leader to take them to the

1679
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 7: next question.

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: Steve, Steve, you're describing yourself, mate.

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 7: No, No, I'll be getting my AO for Victorian tourism

1682
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 7: recommendation all right.

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Speaker 2: Actually by the way. Just let me ask you, this

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01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 2: is coalition thing I'm following. So as Susan lady, you

1685
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: think so one they've got problems on immigration. Two they've

1686
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 2: got problems on that. Zero is she sitting there in

1687
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: a quiet moments do you think right now going this

1688
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: is harder than I thought and I really don't need this? Yeah?

1689
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 7: Probably? I mean I don't think she says she doesn't

1690
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 7: need it. She believes she can do this. But she's

1691
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 7: a moderate and what do he tell her you need

1692
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 7: here now is a conservative leader who can argue the case.

1693
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 7: I mean, she's got a problem, as you said, on

1694
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 7: that to Europe. She won't make a decision on that.

1695
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 7: And now she's got a Roague centator and Nampa Jim

1696
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 7: the Price who came out at the weekend saying, look,

1697
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,959
Speaker 7: the Labor Party is bringing a lot of Indian immigrants

1698
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 7: into the country because they don't labor. Well, the world

1699
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 7: has caved in around the Liberals out of this. I

1700
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 7: mean most Australians, well a lot of Australians would agree

1701
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 7: that there is vote stacking off the back of immigration.

1702
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 7: And so I don't know why send of the Price

1703
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 7: is being absolutely lambastard for what she said. She's refused

1704
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 7: to apologize. She's a toughie. She won't apologize. But Susan

1705
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 7: Lee is just sitting there, you know, like a still

1706
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 7: dummy getting punched every day. I don't know that she'll

1707
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 7: last all that long.

1708
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Speaker 2: Quick comment on the economy. Yesterday, the Australian hr Institute

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01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,480
Speaker 2: said twenty five percent of businesses are looking at redundancies

1710
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: in the September quarter. So that's you know, we're talking

1711
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: to October and November December. Would that be your assessment

1712
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 2: of the economy. Things are type, people are losing. You know,

1713
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: the whole thing's sort of tightened up, if not turned

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: a little bit well.

1715
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 7: To give you an example, ANZ Bank laid off three

1716
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 7: thousand people yesterday, so you know when you get that

1717
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 7: sort of number of people, I mean banking and back

1718
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 7: office operations in banks can be done off shore. We

1719
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 7: all know that. That's probably part of the reason. But

1720
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 7: the economy is just hanging on. The productivity is not improving,

1721
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 7: and you know, the economy has been protected and stoked

1722
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 7: by two things, immigration and huge government spending on major projects.

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01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 7: That's what's happening. Part of an enterprise in this country.

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Speaker 7: The major miners have said, look, we're not investing in

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Speaker 7: Australia more because we can go to America and make

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Speaker 7: more money. That's where we're going.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're off for a couple of weeks. As you return,

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Speaker 2: is this a sort of a summer winter thing you're

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Speaker 2: now sort of like you spend summer slash windo in

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Speaker 2: Europe or something. Because I'm sure you're in Italy the

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Speaker 2: other day. No, I was in Japan the other day

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Speaker 2: in Greece. When were you in Greece this time last year?

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Speaker 7: An annual event. I've got jobs to do over there.

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Speaker 2: I've got work to carry out in Italy.

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Speaker 7: Ill in Italy and Tuscany drinking barollo for the next

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Speaker 7: three weeks.

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Speaker 2: And that's your Your job is to drink barollo? Is

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Speaker 2: it in Tuscany?

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Speaker 7: Direct? Nice job if you can get it.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say you'd be pretty good at it,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

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Speaker 7: I'm a star at that.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll catch up soon. Set price out of well

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Speaker 2: Melbourne now in Italy. In the next couple is Murray

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Speaker 2: doing the business? Is Murray on next week? He's not? Oh,

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Speaker 2: you tell me, we've got a production problem. We've got

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Speaker 2: no one left. We got no one for next week. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: no Australian Correspondent apparently for next week fourteen to two.

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Speaker 2: That be just funnily enough. Yesterday the Australian Future Fund,

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Speaker 2: which is sort of like our super fund. I know

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Speaker 2: they've got a different super fund and everyone pays and

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01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: the employers pay in. They've got their problem solve retirement.

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Speaker 2: We don't. Anyway, they've got a future fund they too.

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Speaker 2: Because we were talking about our superannuation fund yesterday, what

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Speaker 2: was ours? Eleven points something? Was just under twelve I

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Speaker 2: think from memory the Australian Future Funds was twelve point two.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, it's exactly the same. So I

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Speaker 2: think they're riding the same markets. Basically, two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty billion is their size of theirs. Ours is about

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Speaker 2: eighty something. They'd added ninety billion dollars worth of changes

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Speaker 2: to the investment portfolio, so they've done well as well.

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Speaker 2: They made a decision in twenty one to increase their

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Speaker 2: risk appetite to chase returns and a tougher investing environment.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah, blah. Anyway, So they're doing well, We're doing well,

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Speaker 2: so I suppose that's good news. Just on the Israeli

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Speaker 2: attack overnight two Quitar chasing hamas the seems to be

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Speaker 2: a bit of back and forth, Carolyn out of the

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Speaker 2: White House said, well, Katar initially said no one told

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Speaker 2: us this was coming. Then Carolyn at the White House

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Speaker 2: said no, I don't worry. We took care of it

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Speaker 2: all because Whitcoff was on the phone and warning them. Well,

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Speaker 2: now the quitar is sing is simply not true.

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Speaker 11: The attack was.

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Speaker 12: Surprise one hundred percent, and you didn't know of it

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Speaker 12: until all the information that's being circulated and the rumors

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Speaker 12: that is a spreading is not as baseless.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, I'll do fine as the qataris, I'd say,

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Speaker 2: we're keeping the plane untill you sort this out. Tell

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Speaker 2: the truth, or there's no plane.

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Speaker 2: co dot z asking. It turns out we don't have

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Speaker 2: an Australian correspondent. This is Semi's on game problem. You

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Speaker 2: just wanted to share that with you. So Murray's away

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: So if anybody's going over there in the next couple week,

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Speaker 4: you have anyone.

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Speaker 2: Anyone's in Australia for the next couple of weeks, give

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Speaker 2: us a call and we'll just yarn. It's Monday winds

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Speaker 2: and Friday, isn't it Monday windster in and Friday? After eight? Therety,

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Speaker 2: you can be a correspond you want to be a correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Why not? How hard can it be? Five away from night.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with him as well, Spring Frenzy, Sale.

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Speaker 2: On Now, writer or dropping Apple launch. Just over an

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Speaker 2: hour ago, Tim was on fire.

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Speaker 2: Everything we do eight new devices, three new Watchers, new

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Speaker 2: ear pods, four new phones. Yes you got your seventeen,

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Speaker 2: the seventeen Pro, the seventeen Promax and the iPhone Air

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Speaker 2: that's skinny five point six millimeters the base model of

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Speaker 2: the year. Base model the air starts at just two

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Speaker 2: thy one and forty nine dollars. What cost of Living crisis.

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Speaker 2: The aarpods are going to be the talking point though

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Speaker 2: Airpod's three. They can translate in real.

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Speaker 18: Time using a new simple gesture. Live translation begins.

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Speaker 18: it's easier to focus on the translation.

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Speaker 18: The meaning of each phrase is translated for you.

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Speaker 2: Okay iOS twenty six Leve announced that already, but it

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Speaker 2: rolls out for real now. That makes all your icons

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Speaker 2: look like glass and some AI in there. That's not

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Speaker 2: really that exciting. The Apple Watch that starts the se

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Speaker 2: starts at four sixty nine. The seventeen promac it's got

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Speaker 2: the top of the line two terrabyte model. You can

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Speaker 2: run a small town on that. By the way, just

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Speaker 2: plug it into a small town and the whole town

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Speaker 2: Do you know what the iPhone seventeen Promx retails at?

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Speaker 18: Four?

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Speaker 2: I know, four thousand, one hundred and forty nine dollars.

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Speaker 2: Taking the piss that is us Back tomorrow morning from

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