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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for News for Entertainment's opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real

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Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three News TOG sad B.

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Speaker 2: Blling and welcome today some more medals, Thank the Good

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Speaker 2: Lord as the rowers come good. At the other end

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Speaker 2: of the performance spectrum, we have the Transpower Pylon report

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Speaker 2: and the scrap mail over Compo. We've got the Polytech

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Speaker 2: reset that's on. We're going to talk wool and carpets

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Speaker 2: and my fascination with doing New Zealand stuff better. Tim Katy,

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Speaker 2: you do the week. It's Friday, which mc can stateside

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Speaker 2: and Murray Old's is in Australia. Pasky, Welcome to the day,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. So we end the week with a

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Speaker 2: bit of good health news. We've been way down this week,

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Speaker 2: haven't we, with a scrap over the fourteen ish layers

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Speaker 2: of management. No doctorsn't targeted at certain times of the

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Speaker 2: day for and U CEOs and four regional operations that

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Speaker 2: allegedly will sort the mess out. Former board members snapping

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Speaker 2: back at criticism from the Prime Minister of myopic media

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Speaker 2: trying their best to Outshane Retty in what may or

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Speaker 2: may not. Most likely the latter will be some sort

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Speaker 2: of semi scandal around his interpretation of the need to

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Speaker 2: sack boards. But but the good news the removal the

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Speaker 2: cancelation of the ethnic diversity equity adjuster. You remember that

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Speaker 2: was a massive scrap under the last government, who tried

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Speaker 2: desperately to explain that using race was a good way

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Speaker 2: to work out who to put at the front of

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Speaker 2: the non urgent surgery line five indicators. We use things

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Speaker 2: like age and location, but race was the one that

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Speaker 2: got most of us upset, given we thought we lived

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Speaker 2: in a fair and open country where race was not

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Speaker 2: an issue when it comes to publicly funded services like health.

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Speaker 2: It was predicated on the idea that Maray are not

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Speaker 2: well served by health, and in some respects that's true.

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Speaker 2: But poor old Chris Hipkins, you might remember, God himself

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Speaker 2: woefully tied up in knots over an example of a

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Speaker 2: person who lived rurally, many of them mara and how

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Speaker 2: because you were rural you didn't have the same access

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Speaker 2: to doctors as you would in the city. Which is true,

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Speaker 2: But then neither do you if you live rurally. But

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Speaker 2: aren't maray That particular piece of logic seemed to elude them.

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Speaker 2: And when faced with the example of two people with

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Speaker 2: the same conditions and the same need fronting except one

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Speaker 2: was marrying one wasn't. Why was it fear that race

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Speaker 2: then made the difference? They couldn't quite offer an explanation

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Speaker 2: to balance that one out. Ironically, some of the Health

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Speaker 2: service who reviewed it defended it. But people also seem

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Speaker 2: to be able to defend Maori seats, Maori wards, Maori

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Speaker 2: funding services and entitlements that are purely race based. They wondered,

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Speaker 2: they're so angsty about David Seymore's Treaty Bill When the

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Speaker 2: scales are tipped that far in your favor, an injection

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Speaker 2: of balance and fairness and open democracy must be a

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Speaker 2: bit worrying. So in health the race equity adjuster is

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Speaker 2: going a reason, if not to celebrate, at least to

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Speaker 2: be relieved about.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds or.

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Speaker 2: In prisoners want business this morning because since the Cold

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Speaker 2: War and a potential win for Biden and his legacy.

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Speaker 4: Says a lot about the United States that we work

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Speaker 4: relovancy to free Americans who are unjustly held around the world.

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Speaker 4: It also says a lot about us. A distill includes

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Speaker 4: the release of Russian political prisoners. They stood up for

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Speaker 4: democracy and human rights.

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Speaker 2: Are we dealing with twenty six prisoners from seven countries?

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Speaker 2: So from the American point of Gushkovich is the big name,

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Speaker 2: and they've been working on it for a while.

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Speaker 5: The White House Correspondence dinner something like eighteen months ago.

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Speaker 5: The guests of honor that night were the parents of Evan.

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Speaker 5: Gushkovich made the pledge to them that night. Journalism is

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Speaker 5: not a crime. He said, I will do everything I

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Speaker 5: can to bring your son home.

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Speaker 2: One theory is put in Greb Gutskovich for this very reason.

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Speaker 2: There are some people here that put really really wanted back.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we will see who it is.

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Speaker 7: Picked up Evan in particular, just so he could continue

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Speaker 7: this nasty business of swapping out the spies and crypto

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Speaker 7: traders that he wants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now here's the downside.

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Speaker 8: If you are releasing convicted criminals, murderers even back into Russia,

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Speaker 8: and of course there is nothing to stop them from

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Speaker 8: repeating their crimes at some for date there in the future.

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Speaker 2: Then we come to Gaza, where the Israelis have struck

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Speaker 2: a school.

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Speaker 9: This school had dozens of families that were sheltering and

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Speaker 9: seeking refuge in this school. So we're talking about fifteen

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Speaker 9: Palatinians being killed. Civil defense teams are still trying to

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Speaker 9: recover as much bodies.

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Speaker 2: And in Britain's Kia has got a world of pain

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Speaker 2: to deal with as riots and thuggery sweep the streets

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Speaker 10: I call on everyone to give them and indeed the

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Speaker 10: wider community at Southport the space to grieve and time

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Speaker 10: for the authorities in Merseyside to do their job.

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Speaker 2: Filing in Europe tomorrow Bio. They're both in the continents

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Speaker 2: whereaus Cryo Preservation startup. So it's about three hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Company is going to freeze you in liquid nitrogen upon

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Speaker 2: death and the hopes that you can be revived in

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Speaker 2: the future, and the technology is advanced. If you don't

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Speaker 2: have three hundred thousand dollars, you can go in cheap

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Speaker 2: at one hundred and fifteen thousand if you just want

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Speaker 2: to preserve your brain. So far, six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: people have signed up. We've got five pits already to

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Speaker 2: be gone as well. Use the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Bank of England over night has moved. This is pivotal.

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Speaker 2: This is important because there was tremendous anticipation that this

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Speaker 2: might happen. Five to four was the vote, so she

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Speaker 2: was close twenty five points off and they're down now

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Speaker 2: for the cash rate of five percent to a past.

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Speaker 3: Six my costume breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Also in Europe this morning, the AI Act, which we've

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Speaker 2: sort of told you about several times. This is a

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Speaker 2: landmark ruling, the first in the world. This is to govern,

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Speaker 2: allegedly the way companies develop, use, and apply AI. It's

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Speaker 2: finally got approved overnight by EU member states, by the lawmakers,

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Speaker 2: by the European Commission. So we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past six.

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Speaker 1: Well, I went to my brother to ask for long

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Speaker 1: because I was.

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Speaker 2: Busting Andrew Kelleher from Joy My Wealth. Good morning.

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Speaker 11: Well, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Let me guess Briscoes, in a really tight retail time,

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Speaker 2: broke another record they did.

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Speaker 12: I mean, look, there's signs of stress there, but on

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Speaker 12: a relative basis are pretty good results. So they reported

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Speaker 12: their half year sales yesterday. Look, we know it's a

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Speaker 12: tough retail market. We talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 12: So in that context of Briscos is quite a good

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Speaker 12: litmus test, really, isn't it, Because it's proven.

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Speaker 11: To be resilient in the past.

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Speaker 12: So you would have thought if anybody can survive the

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Speaker 11: So have they gone well record half year sales? Yep,

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Speaker 12: Positive sales growth across home, we're and sporting goods, so

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Speaker 12: it's rebel sport. Interesting to see a good contribution from

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Speaker 11: But look there is an impact here. Here's the rub.

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Speaker 11: They've kept sales up, but their earnings.

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Speaker 12: Are projected to be below last year, approximately ninety four

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Speaker 12: So they've guided to a figure of not less than

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Speaker 12: forty million. Last year was forty two point seven. Now,

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Speaker 12: what that earnings outcome reflects is, yes, they've managed to

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Speaker 12: keep the volume of sales up, but they're getting low

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Speaker 12: the challenging environment of margins probably be around one hundred

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Speaker 12: points below last year. But look, Mike, in light of

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Speaker 12: it's a strong year. Strong relative performs. Roderke discover as

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Speaker 12: a significant performance.

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Speaker 11: I would have to agree.

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Speaker 12: And the share price, even though you sort of slightly

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Speaker 12: that the market sort of did reflect the fact that

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Speaker 12: that was a pretty good effort in the current environment.

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Speaker 2: If I was the warehouse side offer rod Duka job.

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Speaker 2: But that's just me now. China manufacturing forty nine point eight,

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Speaker 2: that's not the sort of number we want, is it.

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Speaker 11: No, we need to keep reporting what's happening in China.

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Speaker 12: It's an important part of our ongoing sort of overall

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Speaker 12: a headwind for us, particularly for our export performance while

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Speaker 12: the economy is soft. Yesterday was at least what's called

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Speaker 12: the Kaijin PMI Pittsing Managers Index, so a measure of

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then the Dow which is falling through the

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Speaker 12: So Fed came out yes, so we spoke. Powell then

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Speaker 12: But it's all turned around overnight. And it's reason why

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Speaker 11: Now people are worried about recession.

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Speaker 12: So you got the Dow Jones is now down one

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Speaker 12: point six percent, NA six down almost three percent.

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Speaker 11: So look it's volatile, Mike.

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Speaker 12: We're waiting on Apple and Amazon and they report after hours,

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Speaker 12: and so these sort of results, which I said three

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Speaker 12: in terms of pointing to market direction, and that looks

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Speaker 12: again will sort of point for a direction next week.

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Speaker 2: Give me the rest of the numbers.

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Speaker 12: Sure, the Dow Jones is down six hundred and seventy

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Speaker 11: I like him.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 2: You know what pegues me about that ethnicity? Bill Kate,

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, I think they were probably proven wrong. Twenty

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Speaker 2: Mitch mcannon a couple of moments. As prisoner swap is big,

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Speaker 2: boost regional tourism New Zealand Chaire. David Perks is with

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Speaker 2: us on this. David, a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: I've been concerned for a long time about how lack

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Speaker 13: Yeah, for sure, we were going real strong and it's

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Speaker 13: plateaued at best. Why. I think the domestic tourism economy

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Speaker 13: there's concern about the economy of course, as people have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and that's part of the problem because you

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Speaker 2: Do we have a major problem in marketing, branding, storytelling,

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Speaker 13: I don't think we have a major problem in that

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Speaker 2: So what you're suggesting, what are you going to do

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Speaker 13: No, not at all. This is all about getting New

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Speaker 2: So this is domestic.

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Speaker 13: So this is domestic tourism, and this is about supporting

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Speaker 2: So it is event based and do you know for

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Speaker 13: Yes, certainly you did. Right in the middle of summer,

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Speaker 13: So if more people know about these events, more people

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Speaker 2: You have KPIs on this by spending five million dollars,

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Speaker 13: Everybody, every event is being asked to record the difference

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Speaker 2: To go well with that, David, David perks and have

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Speaker 2: a good week in Regional Tourism New Zealand Chair nineteen

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven as getting this is a part

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Speaker 2: increases could be a fifteen to twenty percent reduction in

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Speaker 2: and that trend goes into twenty five twenty six as well.

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Speaker 2: Says something Ain't Right eighteen to two. The Mike hosting

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Speaker 2: breakfast is an interesting insight. It just so happens in

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Speaker 2: some retirement village residents, successful former CEO's, engineers, business owners,

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Speaker 2: and when they move into some villages, they're effectively told

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Speaker 2: to lead those schools at the gate. Now, you're not

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Speaker 2: going to find that at our Veda because welcome to

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Speaker 2: resident lead retirement. That's what our Veda is all about.

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Speaker 2: Where you can choose how to spend your time and

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Speaker 2: the RVDA team going to make help make it happen.

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Speaker 2: So are Vida communities. They got people from all walks

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Speaker 2: of life, pursuing all kinds of interests and passions. Whether

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Speaker 2: it's a resident lead class of laughing yoga in the

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Speaker 2: lounge or are building an outdoor seat for the local

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Speaker 2: community in the workshop. Our Vida residents take the lead.

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Speaker 2: So there's so many examples of what they call life

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Speaker 2: your Way within their thirty five r Vida Living Well

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Speaker 2: communities across this country of ours, from cycling groups to

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Speaker 2: pottery classes. There's a good chance there's already the activity

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Speaker 2: that you love on offer, and if there isn't, you

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Speaker 2: can start it. That's how it works, you see. So

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Speaker 2: find out more about the RVIDA community nearest you book

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Speaker 2: a tour, have a look see if it's a bit

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Speaker 2: of you. R Vida arv Ida are Veda dot co

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Speaker 2: dot m ZSC. Fascinating insight into the killing of that

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Speaker 2: Hermas leader Ismail and they claim, or the Iranians claimed

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Speaker 2: and her Mass claimed he was hit by a rocket,

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Speaker 2: not true. It was a bomb and explosive device that

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Speaker 2: was concealed in his house weeks or a guesthouse weeks earlier,

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Speaker 2: detonated remotely once he was inside the particular room. The

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Speaker 2: fact that the bomb was in the house, which was

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Speaker 2: under protection of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, has got

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Speaker 2: to have the Iranians deeply, deeply concerned.

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Speaker 18: Fourteen to seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 18: peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: What's time, Mitch? How are you?

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Speaker 14: I'm good, Mike, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Indeed, a big deal in Washington. Guskovich's the

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Speaker 2: headline act. But there's a lot of prisoners being swapped

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Speaker 2: all over the place.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, big deal for the Biden administration as well. Multi

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Speaker 14: country prisoners swap involving twenty four prisoners Mike from countries

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Speaker 14: including the US, Germany, Poland, Benia, Norway and Russia. In total,

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Speaker 14: sixteen people were released from Russian custody in exchange, eight

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Speaker 14: people were freed by the West. Now, the most well

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Speaker 14: known prisoners were Wall Street Journal reporter Ivan Guskovich, who

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Speaker 14: was arrested last March, and former US Marine Paul Whelan

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Speaker 14: who was arrested in twenty eighteen, both extremely high profile

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Speaker 14: cases here in the US. But those are names that

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Speaker 14: will be known around.

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Speaker 2: The world vibe that Putin set up Guskovic simply to

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Speaker 2: engineer this to make it. I mean, is there any

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Speaker 2: talk about that in Washington, or we don't care. We've

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Speaker 2: done the swap and that's good news.

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Speaker 14: Or there is some suggestion about that that might be

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Speaker 14: one of the reasons he held him for so long

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Speaker 14: despite so much pressure from the Yueys. But I think

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Speaker 14: it's important to note, Mike, these are not like for

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Speaker 14: like releases at all, and there's no point pretending they are.

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Speaker 14: On one hand, you have people convicted in Russian courts

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Speaker 14: of what the Americas call sham chargers. But then you

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Speaker 14: also have Russian criminals that are released from Western prisons.

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Speaker 14: And one of those is a man named Veden Krashikoff,

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Speaker 14: a former high ranking if SP colonel. He was serving

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Speaker 14: a life sentence in Germany for executing another man in

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Speaker 14: public in Berlin. Now he's going to be freed back

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Speaker 14: to Germany, back to Sorry, back to Russia as part

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Speaker 14: of this deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then we come to this time yesterday unfolding in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Give him his team. Trump's team pulled him out early.

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Speaker 2: You got to wonder what the hell he was doing

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Speaker 2: there and how it was ever going to go well.

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Speaker 2: But I just can't work out did he get the

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Speaker 2: headlines he wanted or was looking for, or did it

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Speaker 2: just all go wrong.

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Speaker 14: Well, he's got a lot of negative publicity for what

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Speaker 14: he had to say yesterday, but Donald Trump might see

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Speaker 14: that it is just publicity and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 14: What he had to say about Kamala Harris and her

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Speaker 14: race was this, He said, I didn't know she was

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Speaker 14: black until a number of years ago when she happened

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Speaker 14: to turn black, and now she wants to be known

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Speaker 14: as black, So I don't know is she Indian or

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Speaker 14: is she black. Donald Trump, of course, has been blasted

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Speaker 14: for this. The White House calls it repulsive and a

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Speaker 14: black slur. I saw one congressman from the Republicans last

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Speaker 14: night trying to put cold water on this, saying that

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Speaker 14: Donald Trump was being sarcastic. I'm not sure many people

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Speaker 14: see it that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a good week, you make ketchup next week. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Mitch mcckenn out of the States. Nick

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Speaker 2: Bryant wrote very well about it in the Australian papers yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and I note also the group themselves the Association of

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Speaker 2: Black Journalists. They're all angsty about it. And a woman

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Speaker 2: called Karen Attia, who's a Washington Post columnist co chair

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Speaker 2: of this year's conference, she's quit in Trump's adoration of authoritarianism,

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Speaker 2: coupled with the vile campaign he's waged for years on

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Speaker 2: the Fourth of State, his appearance at any media focused

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Speaker 2: conference would be certain to generate a heightened level of controversy.

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Speaker 2: So she's out of there. So I don't know why

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Speaker 2: they invited him in the first place. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure what's wrong with inviting somebody you know you won't

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Speaker 2: agree with. That's the problem with so many journalists, and

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Speaker 2: that they only want to hear from people they agree with. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Another person, Simon Sanders, who's a former Kamala Harris spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: She works for MSNBC these days. She said, some of

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Speaker 2: the best journalists in the country are members of the NABJ,

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Speaker 2: so why wouldn't they interview Trump, which is not a

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Speaker 2: bad point. Speaking of prisoners, by the way, the guy

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Speaker 2: Mohammad and a couple of others who were behind the

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Speaker 2: September eleven, two thousand and one attack, they've agreed to

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Speaker 2: plead guilty. This is a military commissions process. Terms aren't

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Speaker 2: being released. This is out of the Pentagon. In the

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Speaker 2: last twenty four hours they're expected to plead guilty, and

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Speaker 2: by pleading guilty they'll avoid a death penalty. So a

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Speaker 2: lot's been going on in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Ten away from seven, the make Hosking breakfast with al

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Speaker 2: Vida retirement give me news togs had been. Venezuela is

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Speaker 2: still not settled, though, though I note yesterday that Maduro

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Speaker 2: is still on the streets. By the way, the CNE,

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Speaker 2: which is the National Electoral Council, claim Maduro one at

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Speaker 2: fifty one percent. They've had a couple of days worth

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Speaker 2: of protests. The opposition is still maintaining this. Gonzalez won

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Speaker 2: by a wide margin. They still claim some seventy percent.

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Speaker 2: Pressure continues to go on internationally. Costa Rica's got invold.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a whole lot of diplomatic stuff going on,

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Speaker 2: and people are being brought home and fired and moved

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Speaker 2: around the place, et cetera. But Maduro has now suggested

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Speaker 2: the US based Carter Center. This is the most interesting part.

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Speaker 2: The US based Karta Center was invited by the Venezuelan

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Speaker 2: officials to monitor it, and they've said they cannot verify

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Speaker 2: or collaborate or corroborate the results of the election as

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Speaker 2: declared by the CNE. So Maduro has come out and

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Speaker 2: said he will release the numbers. The reason he hasn't

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Speaker 2: released the numbers now is that the electoral system has

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Speaker 2: been hacked. So once he sorted out the hack, we'll

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Speaker 2: see what we can do. Mike, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: text like this this morning, and do't accept it. Every

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Speaker 2: time we talk about the tourism the same arguments put forward.

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Speaker 2: Traveled to Southeast Asia recently met many tourists from the UK,

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Speaker 2: US and Canada. Many commented that they'd love to visit

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, but local costs are too expensive. I reject that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we're expensive, but not when you're coming from international places.

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Speaker 2: You take forty eight was about forty five at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Forty five pence you get a New Zealand dollar. You

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Speaker 2: take fifty something US sense you get a New Zealand dollar.

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Speaker 2: Traveling from there to here is dirt cheap. And that

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Speaker 2: doesn't explain why Europe is overloaded at the moment with tourists.

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Speaker 2: Because Europe is hideously expensive. Go look at a hotel,

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Speaker 2: go look at a meal, go look at an airfare,

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Speaker 2: and it is not stopping them. So this idea that

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Speaker 2: we're too expensive, there's something more to it than that,

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Speaker 2: because the facts just don't back it up. By the way, quickly, Ricaro,

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Speaker 2: if you're into cars, you'll know the name the seats

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Speaker 2: though far for bankruptcy and you think, why the earth

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Speaker 2: does that happen? No one seems to know why they're

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Speaker 2: formed in ninety oh six. The employees had no idea.

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Speaker 2: It's owned by an equity company, and that's always a

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Speaker 2: bit of a problem. That will potentially a bit of

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Speaker 2: a problem anyway that were brought in twenty twenty by

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Speaker 2: a private equity company might have something to do with that.

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Speaker 2: They also make child safety seats, that's okay, aircraft seats,

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Speaker 2: that's okay. But those flash seats and the sports cars

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Speaker 2: that anyone who loves cars knows all about, that's they're

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Speaker 2: in bankruptcy. So what happens to the flash seats?

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Speaker 11: I got no idea.

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Speaker 2: Five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now do we have enough streaming services? I think you

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Speaker 2: probably agree that we have enough to well, we don't

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Speaker 2: have enough streaming services. Can I introduce to you this

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Speaker 2: morning then you sports joint streaming venture. It has been

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Speaker 2: coming for a while. This is ESPN owned by Disney,

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Speaker 2: Warner Brothers and Fox third or third or third. They're

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Speaker 2: putting it together. Seventy two dollars a month, and you think, gee,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot. Sport Sky forty two dollars a month,

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Speaker 2: but the seventy two is pretty standard in America for

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Speaker 2: the streamers because they bring games direct to the consumer

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Speaker 2: rather than paying for a package of channels. Right, so

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Speaker 2: you buy the game, the games come, so you buy

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Speaker 2: a pass to all the games. They're looking to launch

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Speaker 2: in spring, in about a month's time or thereabouts, because

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Speaker 2: they want to kick off before the NFL season begins

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Speaker 2: fifth of September. Fox holds the rights to NFL Sunday games,

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Speaker 2: and Sunday's their big day, and ESPN's got the Monday

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Speaker 2: Night football and that's one of the biggest nights of

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Speaker 2: the week. Speaking of streaming, bundling is the way to

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Speaker 2: go because we've also got Disney and Warner brothers also

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Speaker 2: planning to bundle Max Disney Plus and Hulu, and you'll

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Speaker 2: get that for twenty eight to fifty a month, plus ads,

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Speaker 2: or if you don't want the ads, you get fifty bucks.

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Speaker 2: You follow all of that too many, and I do

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Speaker 2: go back to each one. I was doing esther watch

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Speaker 2: the final episode of Receivers, which I've got to be

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Speaker 2: honest and say that Receivers was not as good as

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. So if you're into the American football, quarterback

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Speaker 2: was brilliant, the receivers was. It was okay anyway. I

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Speaker 2: flicked through a couple of I always do it just

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Speaker 2: as an exercise. I flick through the other services you've got,

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Speaker 2: and you go, right, what's on these things that I'm

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Speaker 2: paying for? And yesterday I came up with zero, absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: But that might be more about me than it is

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Speaker 2: about them. Brook Francis Gold Medal. Quite a good day

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Speaker 2: at the office, as they say, thank god the Rowers

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Speaker 2: came to the party for goodness say, because up until

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Speaker 2: now it's been a bit lean and mean, hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk about rowing. We'll talk about people who

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Speaker 2: turn up to the office and to water blast a

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Speaker 2: pylon and then take all the nuts and take them

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Speaker 2: out and then go is that falling it is? Oh,

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Speaker 2: it is falling over. So anyway, we had the report

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Speaker 2: out on that yesterday, as if we needed a report.

653
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: It's all to come after the news, which.

654
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Speaker 3: Is next the breakfast show.

655
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: You can trust the mic Hosking Breakfast with the range

656
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: rover villa designed to intrigue and use togsad.

657
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: B seven past seven. So the highlight of a very

658
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: good night for rowing was the gold, of course, and

659
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: the women's doubles Men's forgot silver, women's forgot bronze. Brook

660
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: Francis is with us from Paris. Morning, good morning, this

661
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: is particularly good morning. It is a particularly good morning.

662
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: Are you wearing your medal?

663
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Speaker 19: I am.

664
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 20: I think I've only taken off once a shower.

665
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: As far as far as medals go. Is it a

666
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: good looking one?

667
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 20: Yeah, this one's particularly good looking. It's got a wee

668
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 20: piece of the Eiffel Tower in the middle. And yeah,

669
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 20: the French do a pretty good job of everything.

670
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: I'd say fantastic. Now take us through the race. Did

671
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: you need to make it that exciting?

672
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, we've got some fierce competitors and the women's double.

673
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 20: This whole olymp Haad, the Romanians have actually been, you know,

674
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 20: leading the charge and there's been some big, big battles

675
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 20: going on in the woman's double field. Our coach had

676
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 20: said to us before we got on the water that

677
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 20: were where we're gonna need to be brave today, and

678
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 20: it's what we tried to do through every five hundred

679
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 20: and to we hear it was going to be tight

680
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 20: to the wine. And as we came into the finish,

681
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 20: I made a call and the call was Joe, which

682
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 20: meant we needed to wind like Joe and Nathan from

683
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 20: the from the London Olympics, and we managed to come

684
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 20: out on the right side of the finishes.

685
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Because I was going to ask, you are how cognizant

686
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: of what's happening in the race when you're that pressured.

687
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 20: Yeah, you definitely see a lot out of your presshial vision.

688
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 20: But then it comes back to doing what you can

689
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 20: in your bow. And I knew Lucy was laying down

690
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 20: the watts and that's what I needed to do behind

691
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 20: her to keep our boat accelerating.

692
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: Did you have anything left at the end, No, that

693
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: was that was us spent, And.

694
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Speaker 20: I think that's a credit to the Romanians that we're

695
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 20: up against our crew that yeah, leave no phone unturned.

696
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 20: In the day before, they had come from fourth place

697
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 20: to win in the last two hundred and fifty meters

698
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 20: of their race, so we knew they've got e three

699
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 20: years and we were just trying to make sure our

700
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 20: bow got out in front and that we covered that.

701
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. You're not unfamiliar of course with World championships,

702
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: with the medal in Tokyo. Where does this today sit

703
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: for you?

704
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 20: It's extremely special. It again, it still probably hasn't quite

705
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 20: sunk and I think it's been a rollercoaster over two years,

706
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 20: coming back from Tokyo, having a year off and then

707
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 20: deciding to start a family and continue my athletic career.

708
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 20: There's been so many highs and lows that you know,

709
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 20: no one would ever see. But that's been something that

710
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 20: I've been able to share with Lucy this whole time,

711
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 20: and we've had that belief in ourself that this is

712
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 20: something that we can do, and we yeah want other

713
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 20: mothers to know that hopefully they can pursue amazing careers

714
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 20: alongside being great mothers.

715
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at funnily enough I'm looking at a

716
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: photo of you and your daughter and your husband. Does

717
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: your daughter get it?

718
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 19: No?

719
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 20: But she's been excited to hold my middle and she

720
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 20: knows it's a circle and she knows it's gold. And

721
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 20: she did a great job of cheering in the crowd today.

722
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 20: I got to watch her on the middle ceremonies, lifting

723
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 20: both her arms up and giving us a huge, big chair.

724
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 20: But I think she was just probably happy to see

725
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 20: mom because it's been ten days away from from seeing her.

726
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Speaking of family, the Spoor family will be

727
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: fairly happy. Is Lucy beside herself?

728
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 21: Yeah?

729
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 20: And Lucy's words and Phoebe's words their their Mum's been.

730
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 20: She's turned into a puddle with all the tears. Basically,

731
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 20: it's been a phenomenal a day for the sports family.

732
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, And and and a phenomenal day for Rowing

733
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand. What does it say about our ability to

734
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: keep producing champions?

735
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 17: Yeah?

736
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 20: I think we're, you know, hopefully creating a really good legacy.

737
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 20: Our day started off with Tom and Emma qualifying in

738
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 20: the semi finals to get through the A finals. And

739
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 20: we're all a family and we know that if are

740
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 20: going well we're all going well, and I think that's

741
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 20: something that gave our means a woman's forced a lot

742
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 20: of confidence. And hopefully with the Lightweight double tomorrow and

743
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 20: the men's woman's singles on Saturday, they're going to feel

744
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 20: feel a lot of confidence and through their races.

745
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: And joy the night, Brook. I appreciate you time very much.

746
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: Book Francis out of Paris this morning, eleven past seven,

747
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: asking back home. Another depressing reminder that it doesn't matter

748
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: how many reports you right, not a lot seems to change.

749
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: We've got another report into at risk children who turns

750
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: out are no safer than they were three years ago.

751
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: This all came out of the Malachi Acubit case, a

752
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: five year old who died. If you don't remember, back

753
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, the Chief Children's Commissioner, doctor Claier

754
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Kimota is, well, there's clear good morning to you.

755
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 22: Good morning.

756
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: Do you find it depressing?

757
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 22: Look?

758
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 7: I find this findings of this report deeply, deeply concerning

759
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 7: because edit part, it's about how we are treating children

760
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 7: in our country, in the children who are the most

761
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 7: at need in our community.

762
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: Are we a bit useless at this?

763
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 11: Look?

764
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 7: I think we have to get better. In this report

765
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 7: shows that we're not moving quickly enough to act the

766
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 7: systems that need to draw those safety nets tighter and

767
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 7: stronger to keep children safe. They simply aren't prioritizing the

768
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 7: safety of children as much as they need to.

769
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: They would tell you they are. I mean, the same

770
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: thing happens every time report comes out. Will do better,

771
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: they were working harder, report comes out and run around

772
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: we go.

773
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 16: Well.

774
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 7: Following this report, the children's agencies have acknowledged that there's

775
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 7: a lot more to do. And clearly this report from

776
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 7: the Independent Monitor shows that still children are not as

777
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 7: visible as they need to be by the systems that

778
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 7: are there to keep them safe. And you know, in

779
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 7: light of the Royal Commission of Inquiry, in light of

780
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 7: the fact that we still have one child dying every

781
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 7: five weeks on average from homicide, this has to delvanize

782
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 7: us to real action now because we can't afford to

783
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 7: keep leaving children in situations where they are potentially going

784
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 7: to be harmed. We have to act just to do

785
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 7: that with agency.

786
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: Well said, you have a good weekend, dodtr Clareuckman, who's

787
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: the Chief Children's Commissioner. The Pylon didn't get enough coverage

788
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: yesterday when the report came out, because this, to my mind,

789
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: encapsulates pretty much everything that's wrong with New Zealand. So

790
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: more in a moment thirteen past the mistist actually speaking

791
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: of the Olympics, so I get to gonna havel later

792
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: on the program, this China dope testing thing, not to

793
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: mention the boxing has got to have some answers, So

794
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: we'll see what has read on matters is and the

795
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Tertiary Minister Penny Simmons, she's announced how we're going to

796
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: unravel this shambles that is this centralized polytech behemoth that

797
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins thoughts was a good idea. Anyway, I think

798
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: there's a seed of an idea there. But we'll get

799
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 2: the detail from her shortly meantime at sixteen past seven.

800
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to believe that the Transpower Pilon

801
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: story isn't really I mean, the report tells us what

802
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 2: we already knew. Two workers no training under the bolts

803
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: tower falls over power goes out. Not only weren't they trained,

804
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: I suppose that's the new part of the story. They

805
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: weren't they trained. They didn't get proper supervision either. So

806
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: now we presumably talk about compensation or do we. Northland's

807
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: MP Grant mccallums, well us Grant, very good morning to you.

808
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 23: Yeah, good morning Mike. Every time you hear it, you

809
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 23: just wonder, don't you just wonder how this possibly happened

810
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 23: and highlights why we actually do need to get some

811
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 23: recompense for the people of Northland, that's.

812
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: For sure exactly. But the report says the compensation part

813
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: of the question was not in their purview. Who owns

814
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: and runs with this now.

815
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 23: Well that's up to the north of people like my

816
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 23: south lairs of Northland and it gets stuck in to

817
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 23: sit down on Transpound. So actually you owe the people

818
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 23: of Northland. There's a lot of anger out there. You've

819
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 23: heard it from the business community this morning. They are

820
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 23: really frustrated. They feel that they had their owned something.

821
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 23: And actually the wider community, which has been my pitch,

822
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 23: is for the wider community to get to get some

823
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 23: decent a decent check from the from Transpower, which we

824
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 23: can use the benefit all of Norfold because everybody was affected.

825
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 23: The power went out to the whole province.

826
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Speaker 2: When you sit down with they'll go, oh, look at

827
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: some mex and go see them. Is that fair or not?

828
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 23: I don't know. I'm not in that conversation, but actually

829
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 23: know they I have sat down with them and that

830
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 23: that wasn't that didn't come into it. They understand the

831
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 23: relationship directly with Northern This is through Transpower, not through

832
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 23: mex and that their issue good right, so very much

833
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 23: had that conversation directly with them. It's about Transpower putting

834
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 23: things right for Northland by taking this seriously and recognizing

835
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 23: a level of anger out there.

836
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: So when you had that conversation with Transpower, was there

837
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: a pen involved quivering over a checkbook or were not

838
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: at that point?

839
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 23: Not at that point yet, but we it would be

840
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 23: fair to say the sort of general number they threw

841
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 23: around was significantly lower than I was thinking it was relevant.

842
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 23: I said, a fact of ken of what you're talking

843
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 23: about might be more relevant.

844
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: So we're talking tens of millions, Well, no.

845
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 23: Not that high, but seven figures talking at seven three?

846
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a million plus And are they of

847
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: a mind that that's what it will come to? Or

848
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: is the re fight here?

849
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 23: I think there might be a little bit of a

850
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 23: fighter initially, but I would like to think that particularly

851
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 23: after this support which, by the way, why do you

852
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 23: need seventy three pages and one hundred and twenty pages

853
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 23: actually tell us that someone took too many bolts off.

854
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 23: I mean, you know who that would be a great

855
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 23: job to get it, can get it, you know, but

856
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 23: you know why you need that beyond me. But no,

857
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 23: they they need to come with some serious coin and

858
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 23: take it serious. And they come up to North and

859
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 23: you come to the North in front of the people

860
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 23: of North and so I actually feel and understand the

861
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 23: level of anger and eat stuff here.

862
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Go well, grunt, appreciate it very much.

863
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: Grant mckellum. What I mean before the break about everything

864
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: that's wrong with this country is you can't make this up.

865
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: It is so bad that you literally can't make it up.

866
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: We had the woman who's now gone whose name I

867
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: can't remember, who was the head of transpower on the

868
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: program on the day and you looked at the pictures

869
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Speaker 2: and you saw there no bolts in the holes, and

870
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: you said, do they take the bolts out? And then

871
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: you got all the ropie with me for you know,

872
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: jumping the gun seventy three pages, as Grant says later,

873
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: and some dumb report, costing thousands of dollars stating the

874
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 2: bloody obvious. Two idiots who go haven't got a brain

875
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: cell to rub together. Let me ask you this question.

876
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: Even if you had never been trained to look after

877
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: a pylon before, which most of us happened, when they

878
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: said go clean, it would the first thing you do

879
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: is undo all the bolts. Is that the first thing? Honestly,

880
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: even with no training and no supervision whatsoever, all they

881
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: do is give you a still water blaster and say

882
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: go clean. That would the first thing you do be

883
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: to take all the bolts out. No, So that's what's

884
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: wrong with New Zealand. One they don't care. Two they

885
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: don't train, three they don't supervise. Four they're incompetent. And

886
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: then they even want to apologize and write a proper check. Seven.

887
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 3: One my cost you breakfast.

888
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: Right, there's this pole in the New Zealand here all

889
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: the other day. Right, turns out whupos really want companies

890
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: to step up and keep stuff out of landfills, and

891
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: the company that's onto it already as xpol expol the

892
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: warmest feet in the world people. Right, they've been manufacturing

893
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: insulation for our homes for nearly fifty years. They've got

894
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: this thing called the Expole Earth Initiative. It's very impressive.

895
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: All seven of their factories here in the country have

896
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: recycling facilities to recycle not only their offcuts but waste

897
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: from building sites and households. And they're not stopping there.

898
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: They're recycling over five hundred tons of polystyrene every year.

899
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: They've set set up recycling bins through building merchants across

900
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: the country taking back household waste like packaging from household goods.

901
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: We're talking one thousand cubes per month. It's like ten

902
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: truck and trailer loads per month. Now they turn it

903
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: all into new stuff too. Seventy five percent of their

904
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 2: products have recycle content in them. So if you're building

905
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 2: or renovating and you want to be a bit kinder

906
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: to the planet Xpole dot co dot z, great idea

907
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: ra xpole e xpol Xpole dot co dot z your

908
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: home and the environment, Well thank you, Husky. Time out

909
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: to mark the week seven twenty four little piece of

910
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: using current Eventsits as clear and refreshing as a glass

911
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: of sin water. Are the Olympics five child for New Zealand?

912
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: I mean, is it just me, I'm yet to really

913
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: feel it. I mean, the rubbing helped overnight could be

914
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 2: the time zone I guess, could be the medal count.

915
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm hoping Week two provides a little bit more success,

916
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more drama. Are the Greens two months

917
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: of procrastination only culminated more procrastination with yet another letter.

918
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Imagine if they had to actually make a decision. Are

919
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: the Worries eight the wive if they won? They're still

920
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: on the hunt, but selling out this week as we

921
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: found out your entire season and being the first and

922
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: only NROL club ever to do so tells you about support,

923
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: fandom and load. Yes, yes, yes, we've got the US.

924
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: Tonight Andrew cast of five yep read the room got

925
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: the memo tax cut seven because it's important to remember.

926
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: We are not a bank. We are not to be bled.

927
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: We are not a fiscal tap for incompetent politicians to

928
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: hose away hard earned coin In New Zealand six for

929
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: being at least honest about climate targets. Pumpkins seven now

930
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: the player in the summer of growth, prices have tanked

931
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: on the pumpkins. Good for the punter, of course, not

932
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: for the graw up, but good for the punter. And

933
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: who doesn't love Rose Pumpkin marii Wardlaw's eight s I

934
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: mean Brown. The minister who drove that through into law

935
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: this week got it and won a good day for

936
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: democracy speaking which the abolition of the health system's ethnic

937
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: equity adjuster seven. Health is about health, not race toy

938
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: world seven. Yeah, back in wrote a part of the

939
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: REDU love it Bremworth seven two million to spro wooll

940
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: is a wonderful story not told widely and passionately enough,

941
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: And we'll have more on that in the next half

942
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: our Joe Biden's three. This is a very good afternoon

943
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: writing op eds about Supreme Court reform, knowing nothing will

944
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: come of it. It's a bit of a sad and

945
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 2: Karmala Harris seven.

946
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 11: I didn't know she was black.

947
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: Since the assent see doesn't seem to have done a

948
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: thing wrong. Really, if you think about it, money's flying

949
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: in the polls and moving. August six, I mean August. Yes,

950
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: it's the second of August. Explain to me where the

951
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: years gone? That's the week copies on the website and

952
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: not one jot of this has any amount of AI

953
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: anywhere near at hashtag home of the good old did

954
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: it my self opinion piece? Apparently it's not as common

955
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: as it once was, like the pile on the excuse

956
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: that he wasn't trying to simply not good enough?

957
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 17: No, is it not?

958
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: New Zealand has spent squillions on health and safety? This

959
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: is a very good point and a plethora of our

960
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: values documents. Apparently it's all the words, and so we say,

961
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: ohdre too bad. Never mind, I haven't thought about the

962
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: health and safety. You're one hundred percent right. How much

963
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: of an industry is health and safety? How many hundreds

964
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars have spent every year on health

965
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: and safety and rules and hivers and cones and all

966
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: the other crap that clearly amounts to zero when it

967
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: comes to a couple of people you've hired. Have you

968
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: got any experience?

969
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 22: No?

970
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Have we got any supervision?

971
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 21: No?

972
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: But oh well no, go water blast the pylon. See

973
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: how it goes for you now. Polytechs Chris Heipkins thought

974
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: it would be a brilliant idea if they talk all

975
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: a really successful polytechs and they dubtailed them into all

976
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: the really useless polytechs and just had one big Polytech

977
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: and you've seen how that's working. So we've got to

978
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: fix that. And they sort of are they've got an idea. Well,

979
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: I'll let Penny Simmons, the minister, explain what the idea

980
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: is in just a couple of moments.

981
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: They use bold opinions.

982
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real

983
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three news togsad be.

984
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: Like you asked earlier about tourism. Just returned from Hawaii,

985
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: which I thought was a bit quiet, which is interesting.

986
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: I suppose do you go to Hawaii in the middle

987
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: of summer, You really go and winter, don't you. The

988
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: taxi drivers said on the way to the Australia New Zealand,

989
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: Japanese are not coming through going up to Alaska. It's

990
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: all about the cruise ships. Apparently you said they get

991
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: busy in September when the cruise ships arrive. Japanese not

992
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: there because of their dollar they get the Americans. Mike,

993
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: Iceland twelve beers, two plates of chips, three hundred and

994
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: seventy dollars. You don't talk to me about Iceland. How

995
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: some was in Iceland last year and we went broken

996
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: about a day and a half. And this is what

997
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. There's a couple of urban myths

998
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: floating around about New Zealand. One is we're expensive. We're not,

999
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 2: especially given the value of our dollar, which is tanked.

1000
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: And to the other one, tourists are not coming Mike

1001
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: to New Zealand because of gangs and all the crime.

1002
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: That's another urban myth as well. The fact that we've

1003
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: got trouble downtown Auckland, for example, is not preventing tourists

1004
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand. It's like saying, well, I'm not

1005
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: going to Italy because of all the beggars and the pickpockets.

1006
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: It's like saying I'm not going to Britain at the

1007
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: moment because all the knife attacks and the riots on

1008
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Leeds or Southport or London. So I say I'm not dear,

1009
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't dere go to Texas? Might get shot? I mean,

1010
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: that's all theory. It's simply not. You'd never go to

1011
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: New York if you're worried about crime. You'd never go

1012
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: to New York and get the world's flooded with tourists.

1013
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: So it's something more than that. Twenty two to eight Friday,

1014
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: Tim and Cady after eight o'clock for you. Meantime, this

1015
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: business of education more change coming long away to consultation

1016
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: for polytex is now open. In simple terms, we want

1017
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: to take the struggle well, the struggling texts, group them together,

1018
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: let the successful one stand alone. Penny Simmons is the

1019
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: tertiary minister in chargeable with this, and she's with us

1020
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: very good morning, he's good morning mate. This rejig you're

1021
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: looking at is what should have been done in the

1022
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: first place, and giving it. You're from South London, you

1023
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: were running a moderately successful operation. You would have known that,

1024
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: wouldn't you.

1025
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 24: Yes, and look this should have happened four years ago.

1026
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 24: And a lot of what we're looking at doing now

1027
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 24: is advice that the previous minister was given not to

1028
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 24: go hold sail into a big change, but to address

1029
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 24: the problem areas and let the other ones get on

1030
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 24: with running their polytechnics.

1031
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: Now is when you put these in correct me if

1032
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm wrong in saying this, your group of strugglers together,

1033
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: let the successful ones get on with it. Are there

1034
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: too many people in the sector? In other words, and

1035
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: grouping strugglers together. Are you asking for trouble?

1036
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 24: Look, we can't group them together until we get the

1037
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 24: costs out. So that's the exercise we're going through.

1038
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: Now.

1039
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 24: There's significant cost that has to come out. There's identified

1040
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 24: one hundred and fifty million dollars worth of building and

1041
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 24: land that isn't being used that needs to be sold.

1042
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 24: There is a poor operating practice that needs to be sorted.

1043
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 24: So we've got to get the costs out first or

1044
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 24: else we'll just be pouring water into a sieve.

1045
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: So the costs are the waste and the fat, so

1046
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: you're confident it's not to the bone and therefore it's

1047
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: not worth the exercise.

1048
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 24: Look, some of it is to the bone, and those

1049
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 24: very small places the far North Plymouth, west coast of

1050
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 24: the South Island, and that's why we need them definitely

1051
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 24: in a federation so they can get access to the

1052
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 24: one hundred and sixty programs that the Open Polytechnic has

1053
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 24: got online, so they can then offer a blended delivery

1054
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 24: of on campus and online, so that gives them the

1055
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 24: support to still be able to run courses. But in

1056
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 24: some of the bigger urban areas where there are big

1057
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 24: deficits being run, we have to get costs out of there.

1058
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: Okay, the criticism I have some sympathy for, despite the

1059
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: fact that what you're doing makes sense. Is this too

1060
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: much change on top of change?

1061
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 24: Well, we status quo isn't an option. They're going to

1062
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 24: run out of money. They are running big deficits and

1063
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 24: they will run out of money churning through reserves. We

1064
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 24: haven't got an option to just leave them.

1065
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: How many courses are there, how many politics are there

1066
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: that when you look at it from the outside and

1067
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: you go, you know what, there's too much frippery going

1068
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: on and we're just wasting time and money here.

1069
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1070
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 24: Look, I think industry involvement is key to this, and

1071
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 24: community involvement's key to it. So yes, there will be

1072
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 24: some of that. But remember you use polytechnics as a

1073
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 24: pathway to employment. It's not education for education sake. It's

1074
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 24: the ear to get people into employment. So that's why

1075
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 24: we've got to get industry and communities involved with in Again, I.

1076
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: Watch you in question time. You're feeling the heat. Labor

1077
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: have got you in their sites along with Costello, along

1078
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: with chore. Are you feeling the heat?

1079
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 24: Well, no, I'm not, because I know that we've got

1080
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 24: to do this and we've got to get it right.

1081
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 24: So yeah, they're going to put me under pressure, but

1082
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 24: that's what I'm there for, all right.

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Speaker 2: Go well, Penny Simmons, who's the Terchary and Education and

1084
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Skills Minister. Nineteen minutes away from eight, Pasky. I just

1085
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: right back from Europe, including Luxembourg, Germany and France. And

1086
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: you're so right, so so so many people. Airport's heaving expensive,

1087
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: as you said, only cheap items cigarettes, alcohol and petrol.

1088
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: Very Hoss as well, myke. Equity at asset companies buy

1089
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: a company, they hatch. The goes back to Riccaro that

1090
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: it's telling about equity asset companies buy a company, they hatchmatch,

1091
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: divide it up and ruin it. Lots of good staff

1092
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: and knowledge. Mike, I'm watching the series on Apple that's

1093
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: called Slow Horses. Absolutely brilliant, great acting. I must watch.

1094
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: I'll give it a guy over the weekend.

1095
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 8: I recommended that one to you weeks ago. Did you

1096
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 8: have you just been ignoring my recommendations?

1097
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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be a first morning, Mike. Impressive looking medals being

1098
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: given to the athletes at the Games containing parts of

1099
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Speaker 2: the Eiffel Tower I hope they're not taking any of

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Speaker 2: the bolts out, Mike, Mike, it's winter with an average

1101
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: qv season. The snow's not great. Tourism is seasonal. Let's

1102
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 2: see how the summon going high says, look the downside.

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Speaker 2: I take your point there, But tourism New Zealand's now

1104
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: running a program. It's a reiteration of another program. They

1105
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Speaker 2: tried to tell us when they launched the program again

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Speaker 2: that it was a new program. It wasn't a program

1107
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: a new program, it was an old program. But anyway,

1108
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: it was a trend seasonal program. So other words, what

1109
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: we do is shift the season. So in other words,

1110
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: we used to be so successful that everyone would come

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Speaker 2: in our summer and we just moved them into spring

1112
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Speaker 2: in an autumn. So that's should be working if it

1113
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: was working properly, and it isn't. Mike totally agreed. And

1114
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: you see it's not expensive. Just been away for a

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00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: month in the US. There is very that's very expensive,

1116
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: so is Canada. We get good value here across entertainment,

1117
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: hospitality and many things. Thank you, Craig. Seventeen to two.

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00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: My costing breakfast just actually funny enough. Should told you

1119
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: this before I was just reading yesterday. There are a

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00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: couple of more of these places that will actually pay

1121
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: you to move there, places like America West Virginia. There's

1122
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: a program called a Send West Virginia. Get twelve thousand dollars.

1123
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: You get a free outdoor recreation package, coworking space, got

1124
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: to live there for a couple of years. You can

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Speaker 2: go to Rochester, New York. You get up to nine

1126
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Tulsa Tulsa Remote is what they call it.

1127
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: The ten thousand dollars on rental grants a lump some

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00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: after the purchase of a qualifying home. If you want

1129
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: to to Pecker ten thousand dollars. If you want to

1130
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: go there, go to Pecker is what they're calling it.

1131
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: Employee Transfer program Contribute. You've got to contribute for that

1132
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: one two and a half thousand and fifteen thousand dollars.

1133
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: But after you've done that, they reimburse you. The Shoals

1134
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: Alabama Remote Shoals, if you want to live in Alabama,

1135
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: they'll give you ten thousand dollars to move to that

1136
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: part of the world. You've got to have a job

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00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: that's worth fifty two thousand dollars or more that was

1138
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: so successful. That program's currently on pause, so there's plenty

1139
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: of people on will we want to get you there, Mike.

1140
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: I so enjoy listening to your interviews with government in peace.

1141
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: They know what they're talking about, well not all of them,

1142
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: and it shows because they speak. I'll give you a

1143
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: list one day, I'll give you Mike's top ten. I'll

1144
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: go one to ten or ten to one, just depending

1145
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: on you know who's a bit useless. They're not all good.

1146
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you who is good. And I've said

1147
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: it before, Karen Shaw's very good. And that's why I

1148
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: was so upset this week. Her treatment has been disgusting.

1149
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: It is embarrassing. And the fact that she was allegedly

1150
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 2: because of what the Maori Party, a couple of members

1151
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: of the Maray Party said to her in Mariy, I mean,

1152
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: how arrogant do you need to be? She was told,

1153
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: apparently by Jerry Brownlee to and expect an apology. It

1154
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: never came, and that's on Brownlee. Now he's going to

1155
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: make that happen because I know that Julianne Genta I

1156
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: was watching as usual question Time yesterday. Before question Time,

1157
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: Julianne got off and read off her phone about how

1158
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: sorry she was. It was reasonably authentic. I think she

1159
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: was found in contempt, as indeed she should have been.

1160
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: She had written to the committee the privileges this is

1161
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: she had apologized. She said it was unparliamentary, so she

1162
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: behaved in that sense properly. The committee found there was

1163
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: no further value in holding an oral hearing, so that

1164
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: was the end of that. Tell you who wouldn't be

1165
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: on my top ten list? This grocery commissioner. That was

1166
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: another labor brain fart. So they invented a grocery commissioner,

1167
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 2: thinking a grocery commissioner would do something about the supermarkets

1168
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: and tell me, just tell me now, I've got a

1169
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollar prize right here, right now, first caller through,

1170
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: tell me what he's done. Nothing, nothing, don't even by

1171
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: the picking up the phone, because he's done nothing. Yesterday

1172
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: he said key measures to improve competition isn't working, no cuding.

1173
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: He started a review of the grocery supply code that

1174
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: came into forced last September, and there are reports that

1175
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 2: supplies are concerned about how they're being treated. So that

1176
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: was never going to change the grocery agreements that were

1177
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: sent out to them in September. More than fifty percent

1178
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: of them are unsigned. Could be, of course, because they've

1179
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: got better things to do with their life than, you know,

1180
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: sign a bit of paper from the grocery commissioner. But

1181
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: be that as it may, there's a long standing in

1182
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: balance and power, or so he continues to argue. He said,

1183
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: he was ready to and this is what you've always

1184
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: got to be weary of. And he said, look, he

1185
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: seems he's a coster. He's a he's an Andrew costa

1186
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: likable enough guy, nothing wrong with him. Came from sanitary

1187
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: and pleasant sort of bloke. But when you look and

1188
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: talk to him, you think, are you the bloke to

1189
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: change things? No, you're not. I mean, for all I know,

1190
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: if you give him a water blaster, he might have

1191
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: undone some bolts, you know what I mean. You just

1192
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

1193
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 8: So anyway, what you're saying, you prefer somebody like with

1194
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 8: a taser exactly God taser the Supermen.

1195
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: When somebody, when somebody says something, and this is what

1196
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: he says. He said, quote he was ready to wave

1197
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: a big stick. So when somebody says that, you will

1198
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: go Actually, I better get my act together because that

1199
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: big stick might be big and it might hurt. I

1200
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: don't believe a word he says. So I just don't

1201
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: know what he does for a living every day. Given

1202
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: literally nothing has changed in the supermarket sector. Since he's right,

1203
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: he's whittling is stick. It's probably probably looking for a stick.

1204
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 2: He's probably whittling a stick. He probably goes, I haven't

1205
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: got a stick. A whittle one up for me. It's

1206
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: ten away from eight.

1207
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: The mic costing breakfast with the Range rivers.

1208
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: And it's even away from it. So let's celebrate Wall.

1209
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: As we told you yesterday, Bremworth have launched this two

1210
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: million dollar marketing campaign to remind us that Wall is wonderful.

1211
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: The chief executive, Greg Smith is with us. Greg, very

1212
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: good morning to.

1213
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 17: You, Very good morning to you too, Mike, thanks for

1214
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 17: having us.

1215
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: Not at all.

1216
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: How big is the battle?

1217
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 17: Uh well, it's it's it's pretty big, but it's not

1218
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 17: as big as it's ben I mean, we will. Prices

1219
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 17: are on the app there at a six year high,

1220
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 17: which is which is great for New Zealand farmers and

1221
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 17: that's that's really good news for them, and that's good

1222
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 17: news for us. Because we're well only so we want

1223
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 17: we want people to see the value of this amazing product.

1224
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: Exactly how much when it comes to wall, is on

1225
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 2: price and how much of it's not front of mind?

1226
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 17: Well, actually it's absolutely front of mind. So consideration for

1227
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 17: wool is that a four year high according to our research,

1228
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 17: and as far as price goes, it is the number

1229
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 17: one consideration for consumers. However, but when you're comparing synthetics

1230
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 17: to wool, you're not comparing apples with apples.

1231
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: No, indeed you're not. But do people understand that more

1232
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: importantly when you're looking, say in a house, do you

1233
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: look at wall versus synthetic or do you look at

1234
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: wall versus a wood floor versus a chevron floor versus

1235
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: a tile versus whatever.

1236
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, Well, what we've seen in our research is that

1237
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 17: a hard floors. And when we talk about hard floors,

1238
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 17: we talk about timber, laminae vinyl timber floors are their

1239
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 17: consideration is at a four year high as well, which

1240
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 17: may have something to do with people moving more towards

1241
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 17: natural and carpets at a high as well, and that's

1242
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 17: wall carpet, but it's not converting in store, and so

1243
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 17: we need to make sure that people are aware of

1244
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 17: the natural performance benefits of WILL.

1245
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: Okay, do you work in all dovetail and I'm thinking

1246
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: about the new builds and all that talk about consents

1247
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: and building new homes in the country in the last

1248
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: couple of years. Does that become part of the equation

1249
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: in the conversation when you talk about what guttering you're

1250
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: going to use, what roof, what door, what door handle?

1251
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: Right floors? What are we doing? Is that all part

1252
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: of that?

1253
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 17: Well, I tell you the part of conversation we want

1254
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 17: to be in, and that's the conversation with people are

1255
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 17: talking about surfaces. And you know when you think about

1256
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 17: people spending an ordinary amount of time considering their bench

1257
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 17: top or their bathroom or the door handles that they've got,

1258
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 17: and we think the most premium surface in the home

1259
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 17: is your flooring and WILL carpet is absolutely the best

1260
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 17: choice there. So that's what the conversation we want to

1261
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 17: be part of them. That's what the campaign's about.

1262
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: Is patriotism part of the equation or you know the

1263
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: fact it's locally made growing all of them?

1264
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 17: I'd like to say yes, but most of the sathetic

1265
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 17: products are all important. Yeah, so you know, New Zealand

1266
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 17: made is important to kiwis, but what's more important actually

1267
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 17: globally is New Zealand wool. It's incredibly well regarded all

1268
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 17: over the world as being the best surface.

1269
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: And is that the same for strong and fine or not?

1270
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 17: Yep, absolutely so. I mean the Australian marino growers will

1271
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 17: say that Australian marinos is as good as New Zealand.

1272
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 17: We know that's not quite true. But New Zealand strong

1273
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 17: will is absolutely regarded for its color. They sorry, it's color,

1274
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 17: it's quality and the low carbon footprint.

1275
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 7: It's the best in the world.

1276
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Well, I wish you were with the campaign.

1277
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the old wool and the

1278
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: better we do, the better the country goes. Greg appreciated

1279
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: Greg Smith, Brimworth chief executive Mike did our full bedroom

1280
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: last year in wool carpet, didn't think of anything else.

1281
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: Well done you, Mark, congratulations. We have got Tim and Katie.

1282
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: We also got Murray out of Australia. We'll get you

1283
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: the update on Rex of course, and we've got problems

1284
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: for eld and easy Worth, Barnaby Joyce and we'll cover

1285
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: all of that off and we'll get you to the

1286
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: games and some of this angsty stuff around this Algerium

1287
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: Boxer the guy have felt before we leave you at

1288
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: nine o'clock as well.

1289
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News

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Speaker 1: tog said, be this.

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Speaker 2: A reminder of got a weird and wacky, old and

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Speaker 2: complex world in which we live in. At the moment,

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Speaker 2: the Dow's christ it's too strong a word, but she's

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Speaker 2: sunk over five hundred, is sitting at four nine four

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Speaker 2: at the moment. But they've woken up this morning. An

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Speaker 2: American recited that what Paral said yesterday about a September

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Speaker 2: cut is going to be too late to avoid recession.

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Speaker 2: So all of a sudden they've been talking about how

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Speaker 2: surprisingly strong the US economy is now, many jobs they're creating,

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Speaker 2: how the spending's holding up, and how we don't need

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Speaker 2: to cut yet, and then when they say, well we

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Speaker 2: can probably get there by September, suddenly it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a reception. So that's where the doubt is.

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Speaker 8: But then the Apple earnings will come out that you know, shortly,

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Speaker 8: and it might make it or better again.

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Speaker 2: It's my favorite company, Meta Reality Labs. They reported yesterday

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Speaker 2: Meta Reality Labs. You know how much they lost in

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Speaker 2: the second quarter, about nine billion.

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Speaker 8: Just for the quarter, but worse than they were expecting

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Speaker 8: or better.

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Speaker 2: Those goggles. They're going to get there eventually. Now this,

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Speaker 2: of course you'll be going goodness sake? Is this Empire

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Speaker 2: of the Sun. Yes, after almost a decade after their

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Speaker 2: last full length album, the Australian electronic group Empire of

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Speaker 2: the Sun have put out their fourth studio set. And

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Speaker 2: given it's been almost a decade, you would have thought

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Speaker 2: they'd come up with more than twelve tracks each and

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Speaker 2: every one of them are ones almost exactly three minutes

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Speaker 2: long until Weird, and they saved themselves by doing one

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Speaker 2: at six minutes and twenty which bumps their total to

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Speaker 2: forty three minutes. Twelve tracks, forty three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Interview with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Skinny after a decade. If you asked me, Kate Hawksby's

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Speaker 2: with us along with Tim Wilson. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Go on quick question for you, Tim, in all honesty,

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Speaker 2: In all honesty, and don't feel embarrassed if you would

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Speaker 2: have if you find fault here. If I asked you

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Speaker 2: to go clean a pylon and I said, here's your

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Speaker 2: water blaster, Tim, go whip whip the water blast around

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Speaker 2: that pylon, would you at any point and you have

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Speaker 2: no experience? Just for the record, you have no experience

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Speaker 2: cleaning pilons, do you?

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Speaker 21: I have zero experienced cleaning pilon That is.

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Speaker 2: Correct, right, And I have no one to supervise you

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Speaker 2: today because we're a bit short starved at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So if I say to you go grab that, just say, look,

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Speaker 2: you'll need to remove the bolts to clean them all up.

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Speaker 2: At what point do you think you would remove all

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Speaker 2: the bolts so it fell over?

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Speaker 21: There was there's no point. Why would you continue removing

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Speaker 21: the bolt thing? You might remove the bolts on the

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Speaker 21: first one, water blast that, then remove the put the

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Speaker 21: bolts back on, then the next one. Isn't that what

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Speaker 21: you would do?

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Speaker 2: I believe that to be the case. Would you concur

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Speaker 2: with that, Caddie.

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Speaker 24: I wouldn't concur.

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Speaker 6: I actually think the first thing you do is say

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Speaker 6: if you have no experience, you've never done this before,

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Speaker 6: and it as a major is to say put your

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Speaker 6: hand up and say we're going to need some direction

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Speaker 6: or guidance or help on them, Like there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 6: with asking for help.

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Speaker 2: No exactly, and so obviously I didn't. They didn't have

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Speaker 2: any one supervising. So does this and Caddy, am I

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Speaker 2: being unfair? Does this not encapsulate in its own small

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Speaker 2: way pretty much everything that's wrong with New Zealand at

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Speaker 2: the moment. We've kind of in a way become pathetic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's just no ex for it.

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Speaker 6: But I know my brother came through walking deport yesterday

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Speaker 6: having hands I don't know how long in Europe, but

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Speaker 6: it felt like forever, and he said basically, coming back

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Speaker 6: to New Zealand feels like, well now we are FG

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Speaker 6: unfortunately without the ukuleles and the singing. You know, that's

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Speaker 6: what we need to maybe brighten ourselves up. But we

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Speaker 6: we sort of I don't know.

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Speaker 21: Do not get me, Do not get me started about

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Speaker 21: Auckland Airport or we should rename it for del Castro International.

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Speaker 21: That place hates freedom.

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Speaker 2: Have you where have you been? Are you picking people

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Speaker 2: up to me?

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Speaker 22: No?

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Speaker 16: No, no, no no.

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Speaker 21: I'd sit down to christ Church during the week, lovely

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Speaker 21: place by the way, loving a bit of Christ here's

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Speaker 21: my reason. Here's my reason is Number one, they don't

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Speaker 21: sell They don't sell chutty at Auckland Airport. You can't

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Speaker 21: buy chewing gum there because they believe you can't operate

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Speaker 21: your own chewing gum. You go to christ Church, domestic, correct,

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Speaker 21: you go to christ Church. You can buy chewing gum

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Speaker 21: because they believe that you can operate your own chewing

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Speaker 21: gum in christ Church. Oh and by the way, at

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Speaker 21: Auckland Airport, when you're coming down the escalator after just

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Speaker 21: bought it, you know, getting off the plane at the

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Speaker 21: bottom of the escalator, there's a voice saying, please mind

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Speaker 21: your step as you step off the escalator. If you

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Speaker 21: can't step off an escalator, there's a whole lot more

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Speaker 21: problems waiting for you outside the airport with cars, roads,

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Speaker 21: et cetera.

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Speaker 2: It's outrageous brandom.

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Speaker 21: Flavor brand and flavor are whatever's going? Yeah, you're not

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Speaker 21: sure you're not sugar brands. I might do a teeth

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Speaker 21: whitener if I'm feeling a bit you know, gritty.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in that?

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Speaker 17: Do you so?

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Speaker 2: Do you honestly? When you purchase your teeth whitening chewing

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Speaker 2: gum do you honestly believe your teeth will whiten.

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Speaker 21: Glisson, I'll sparkle like the sun, Michael.

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Speaker 6: Of course they will very upsetting for your microbion chewing gum.

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Speaker 6: You should step clear of it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which.

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Speaker 6: Sugar free from God?

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Speaker 2: Is it sugar free?

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Speaker 6: Tim sugar and false sweeteners and chemicals.

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Speaker 21: But also it also but it's on the on the counterbouances.

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Speaker 21: It invigorates the saliva that which helps clean your teeth,

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Speaker 21: so it's good for your teeth.

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Speaker 2: That part is true. And my hygienist has told me

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Speaker 2: that very story. I used to be into the Hubba

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Speaker 2: bubba for a while.

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Speaker 21: Bubbles, no troubles.

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Speaker 2: That is so true, mind you. I was twelve or thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Cadie from from Good Bugs, Fresh Raw and Alive. I

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Speaker 2: have the note Dear Kate and Mike, and this it

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Speaker 2: was this time last week, thank you for your public

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Speaker 2: appreciation of our Kimchi sprinkles. We're having an amazing week

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Speaker 2: and not much sleep. Why are they not having much sleep.

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Speaker 6: Caddie, because they're frantically trying to get out all the

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Speaker 6: Kimchi Sprinkles orders, because the website's sold out and they've

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Speaker 6: got a big list of people waiting for Kimchi sprinkles,

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Speaker 6: and they're very kindly gifted us. Some of their crowds

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Speaker 6: in the interim, didn't they which is which is not?

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Speaker 2: It's not a replacement for a sprinkle because crowd is

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Speaker 2: a separate thing. But delicious nevertheless.

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Speaker 21: Is a sour kroud. Are we talking sourkraut? They didn't,

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Speaker 21: they didn't seend a couple of Germans over No, that's.

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Speaker 2: Going to do the bridge, that's going to do micro

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Speaker 2: on a world of good? Is it? I can't read

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Speaker 2: the writing?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Maria, Maria Daniel, Marie Daniel.

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Speaker 6: But they now called mister and missus Kimch Sprinkle, Kars.

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Speaker 2: Mister and missus Kimch Sprinkle. It gladdens my heart that we,

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Speaker 2: in some small way have helped out a little mum

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Speaker 2: and dad business in this country to do a little

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Speaker 2: bit better. By the way, yeah, I think, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's brilliant too. You're watching the Olympics at all, tim.

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Speaker 21: We're well, we did a little can I no, no,

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Speaker 21: can I Can I tell you something? Just on the

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Speaker 21: QT So we tried to get on sky Open and

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Speaker 21: we couldn't really do it, and so it went on YouTube.

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Speaker 21: Well you know, you're supposed to log in and there's

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Speaker 21: an email adis blah blah blah. So we ended up

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Speaker 21: on YouTube.

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Speaker 17: This is what the kids.

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Speaker 21: So I was like, oh, I'll watch the Olympics. So

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Speaker 21: we ended up on YouTube and we saw a four

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Speaker 21: minute thing of the opening, sort of a shortened version,

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Speaker 21: and then we saw something else and well we just

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Speaker 21: it was actually the twenty twenty Olympic BMX competition.

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Speaker 17: So we watched that.

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Speaker 2: But it was quite exciting. It was quite excited for

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Speaker 2: the list.

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Speaker 21: Was quite yeah. And suddenly enough we watched. When we

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Speaker 21: watched the next event, one of the one of the competitors,

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Speaker 21: the same guy had grown a bed and put on weight,

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Speaker 21: but no one noticed that.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Good Olympic experience and unique Tim Wilson

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Speaker 2: Kate Hawksby more in a Moment fifteen Past the Mike

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Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast Talks, seventeen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees, Fighting for fair

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Speaker 1: for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 2: Wilson Kate Hawksby with us Katie. Quite a bit of

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Speaker 2: you won't have tuned into the program this morning, but

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Speaker 2: quite a bit of support from on the on your

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Speaker 2: BSA complaint that you lost so egregiously those months ago

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Speaker 2: before you stormed out of the industry never to return

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Speaker 2: again over the equity business and the health system. And

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Speaker 2: now that the equity business and the health system has

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Speaker 2: been canceled, most people think you probably owed an apology

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Speaker 2: by the BSA.

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Speaker 6: Oh is that what's happened? Because I've had all these

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Speaker 6: weird emails and messages this morning on Instagram and saying

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Speaker 6: you deserve an apology for the BSA, and I'm like,

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Speaker 6: what have they held another thing against me?

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Speaker 24: So that's what it is?

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Speaker 6: Okay? Cool? Exactly won't I won't hold my breath waiting

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Speaker 6: for that.

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Speaker 2: No, indeed not. I've got problems. How old are you again? Tim,

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Speaker 2: do apologize for keeping on asking that question? That's right?

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Speaker 24: So what do you know?

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Speaker 21: I'm not, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm younger than you are you by how much?

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Speaker 21: I'm fifty eight?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, Andrew Keller heer. Another thing you won't have

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Speaker 2: heard on the program this morning because you won't have

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Speaker 2: been tuned in, Katie. Is that Andrew kellerher, our finance guy,

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Speaker 2: is celebrating his sixtieth next month. Guess what he's doing

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Speaker 2: what cycling twenty seven mountains in France.

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Speaker 6: Well that's not you. That's not your cup of tea

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Speaker 6: at all.

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Speaker 21: No, No, that's impressive.

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Speaker 2: See, that's the thing to and that's why I raised it.

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Speaker 2: It's now I'm in it. I'm in the sixtieth birthday bitch,

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Speaker 2: because now whatever I I mean, it's that's either idiotic

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Speaker 2: and you think why would you do that? What a fall?

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Speaker 2: Or it's impressive, isn't It's one.

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Speaker 3: Or the other.

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Speaker 2: And then whatever I come up with, people going, it's

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Speaker 2: not as good as.

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Speaker 21: Why don't you just why don't you just pop yourself

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Speaker 21: into your favorite pair of trackies and T shirt and

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Speaker 21: have a nice Cama mild tea and watch some of

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Speaker 21: your favorite Warriors games from the YouTube.

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Speaker 6: That's honestly what he wants to do. To him, He's like,

1507
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 6: why can the pub with the kids? I'm like, because

1508
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 6: we do that all the time.

1509
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 21: He's like, that's all I want to do, which the

1510
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 21: hang with the Fanbam.

1511
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like. It's not like I'm going to

1512
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 2: France to cycle mountains, is it. I mean, you know,

1513
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: in the same.

1514
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 21: Here's the question, are you are you accepting that you're

1515
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 21: sixty or are.

1516
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: You very much? I'm I'm completely comfortable that I feel.

1517
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 13: I feel.

1518
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't feel so amazing. I want to cycles, but

1519
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: I thought I was feeling pretty good.

1520
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 21: Yeah you got you had that sticky shoulder.

1521
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had the medical things, Tim, but but they've recovered.

1522
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: Now I've recuperated out there.

1523
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 8: I don't forget that he started wearing polo shirts as well.

1524
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: Is that is that an age thing?

1525
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 8: Well, what's what's the You've just all of a sudden

1526
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 8: gone from wearing design a T shirt?

1527
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't even know what level of maturity. Actually,

1528
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: I'm saving the marinost. No, it looks like the.

1529
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 8: Side of a pair of Long Johns, that one.

1530
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: I'll give you that, Katie.

1531
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 21: Why you slipped your man into a pair of long

1532
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 21: Johns for a sixty year.

1533
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 6: It's kind of it's kind of pretty the lookings going

1534
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 6: for the I'm not against it. He's gone off T shirts,

1535
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 6: which is a real shame.

1536
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 8: Actually, the alligator on the front seat.

1537
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't gone off T shirts. All that

1538
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: happened was I wanted to support the Marino industry of

1539
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: this country.

1540
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 11: Shirt.

1541
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 21: No, No, what happened was you fold yourself downtown when

1542
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 21: you missed a here appointment. You has nothing else to do,

1543
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 21: and you didn't want it. You didn't actually want to

1544
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 21: talk to anyone, so you'll work to them.

1545
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 24: All.

1546
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 11: Yes, happen, and I order.

1547
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: It's just unfortunately the other day the ones I ordered

1548
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: turned up as well, so I'm now feeling obligated to

1549
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: wear them.

1550
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 6: Oh okay, I wonder what's happened because you do seem

1551
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 6: to have an explosion of marino in your wardrobe, and

1552
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,959
Speaker 6: I'm just wondering if this is actually any little.

1553
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: I sent them.

1554
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 21: I'm sensing a new maturity here. I think this is positive.

1555
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 17: I've got a question, Mike quick one Jill.

1556
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 21: It's a chill chills related question. Pink frost or leather jacket.

1557
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: Leather jacket boom, because I don't even know what the

1558
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 2: other thing.

1559
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 21: Was bed like a sixty year old.

1560
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: I love it.

1561
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 21: I don't even know what that that rubbish is. I'm

1562
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 21: not going to go for it.

1563
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, guys. Tim Wilson, Kate Hawksby. It

1564
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: is eight twenty two the masks with now Father's Day

1565
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: just around the corner, so head to Chemists Warehouse with

1566
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: the best fragrance deals out there. You can shot the

1567
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: wide variety of fragrances and even treat yourself for the

1568
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: fragrance for yourself. Why wouldn't you do that? Dol Jacobana

1569
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: like Blue fifty mills now just eighty four ninety nine,

1570
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 2: Mark jacob dais you love thirty mills just sixty four

1571
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: ninety nine. You can grab yourself a classic deal on

1572
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: the Jean Paul go to your classic one hundred mills

1573
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: ladders better than half price ninety nine ninety nine. We

1574
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: love the Hugo Boss number one that's one hundred mills

1575
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: of sixty nine ninety nine. Or maybe you're after the

1576
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: up hom Lapathan one hundred mills fifty nine ninety nine.

1577
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 2: There's the fragrance that everybody loves. DC ten that's the

1578
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: that's from Dan Carter of course, one hundred mills just

1579
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: forty nine to ninety nine and the Great Office. Don't

1580
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: in there. While you're in store or browsing online, don't

1581
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 2: forget to check out the huge Chemists warehouse range of vitamins,

1582
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: babies essentials, beauty, cosmetic, skincare, and be sure to grab

1583
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: something for yourself. It is all there at chemist's warehouse

1584
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: asking Mike, why don't you drive an Era if one

1585
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: car in France at poor Ricard, that would be an

1586
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: awesome sixtieth Jeez, what a good idea. Keep that for

1587
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: later and look them up on the net. Mike, recent

1588
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: carpet Vier all retailers say wolf Eates. I don't think

1589
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: retailers say that, but I take your point. Synthetic doesn't,

1590
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: so we were put off. They need to address that. Yeah,

1591
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 2: the sales pitch around it, the story around it is important.

1592
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 11: Mike.

1593
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: Tim Wilson made a guest appearance at the Alpha course

1594
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: I was at yesterday. I heard him at a conference

1595
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: in Wellington as well, and as always an absolute pleasure

1596
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: to listen to him again. Isn't that good? The rave

1597
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: reviews are in Murray Olds is standing by a couple

1598
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: of things to talk about, including Rex. Of course. Meantime,

1599
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: Trump has reacted to the prisoner swap this morning. So

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01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: when are they going to release the details of the

1601
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: prisoner swap with Russia? How many people do we get

1602
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 2: versus them? Are we also paying them cash? Our negotiators

1603
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: are always an embarrassment to us. I got back way,

1604
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: I got back many hostages and gave the opposing country

1605
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: nothing and never any cash. Of course he did, and

1606
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: the White House has confirmed, but no money swap hands

1607
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: at all. JD Vance reckons they're cleaning house because they're

1608
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: freaking out that Trump's coming back to the White House,

1609
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 2: so they need to get things sorted.

1610
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 11: Out quick smart.

1611
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Speaker 2: So so rolls on the presidential campaign of twenty twenty four, Yes,

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: X and THEB. The big talking points in Australia. Murray

1613
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: Old's After the News, which is next year at news

1614
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: Talk said be setting the.

1615
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: News agenda and digging into the issues.

1616
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: The mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover, the LA

1617
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use talks B Mike.

1618
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: We've got a crylic carpet in our Wonica house. It's

1619
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: faded badly along the windows. I'm back to wall much nicer,

1620
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: fr league. I told you, Mike. I the farm I

1621
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: run last year spend fifty seven thousand on shearing, got

1622
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: thirty two k for the wall. Wall's a great product,

1623
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: but due to its thirty year load, it slow decline.

1624
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: We're now in our second year of breeding wall less

1625
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: sheep or wallless sheep. There's also a lot of other

1626
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: savings that come with no wool like no dipping down.

1627
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: Yet No, I get all. That's that's the supply equation

1628
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: as opposed to the retail side of the story. But

1629
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 2: I take your point, Mike. Have we heard anything from

1630
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: week one of the book camp?

1631
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 14: No?

1632
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have expected to. I mean, this is

1633
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: a three month course and they'll get supervision four twelve months,

1634
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: so nine months outside the camp, so I wouldn't have

1635
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: expected necessarily. I mean, what do you want them to

1636
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: say it? And they've done week one. They got up

1637
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 2: at six thirty every morning. In fact, they haven't talked

1638
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: to Mark Mitchell about that, not that he's directly in

1639
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: charge of it, but getting up at six thirty in

1640
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 2: the morning, let me tell you a thing. But the

1641
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: thing about getting up early in the morning, and when

1642
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: I say early six thirty is not early. I'm talking

1643
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: about two to two thirty in the morning, is it's

1644
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: quite it's peaceful, and it's productive. And I honestly believe

1645
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 2: that if you got some of these kids up at

1646
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: the early hours of the morning, maybe three, three thirty

1647
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: in the morning, and they did a bit of meditational

1648
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, did a few exercises, or did a little

1649
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 2: bit of something in the silence of the morning, they

1650
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: might view the world slightly different.

1651
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, but after you know, week one, have they

1652
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 8: any of them done any more ram raids or anything.

1653
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, but then again the ability to do

1654
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: it would be somewhat limited. So definitely working it could

1655
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: be so far twenty two minutes away from night.

1656
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 18: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

1657
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 18: for New Zealand Business Murray elder Than Australia.

1658
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 2: Morning mate, Good morning, Michael.

1659
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 19: You've got staff up at that time cleaning your shoes,

1660
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 19: haven't you polished very much?

1661
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 2: They're dedicated to the service of me and it's a

1662
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: pleasure for them to do it. Let me read you

1663
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: this headline. Get your reaction. Whatever his achievements as PM,

1664
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: another rate rise would just about bury Albanesi. So this

1665
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: is the RB, it's this Wednesday, it's the decision. I

1666
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: also read this Week of a Generation apparently. Is that

1667
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: headline true?

1668
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 19: Well, a lot, it's And I know what to sound like,

1669
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 19: you know, because you know, I'm not a big fan

1670
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,520
Speaker 19: of the opposition over here. Peter Dutton, I think's unelectable.

1671
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 19: But the latest poll this week is absolutely chilling news

1672
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 19: for Labor. Labor's on the nose. Albanze has been shell

1673
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 19: shocked since the Voice referendum. I think last year failed

1674
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 19: so spectacularly and the Redbridge Pole this week shows the

1675
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 19: Coalition up from thirty seven to forty one percent. Now,

1676
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 19: what's doing that Australians on lower incomes, they are struggling

1677
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 19: with the cost of living and overall the pole is

1678
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 19: very good news for the Coalition fifty one point five

1679
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 19: percent to Labour's forty eight and a half. Now that's

1680
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 19: an election winning position. That's the first time Labour's trailed

1681
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 19: since the last election. And so how's Albanezer responded to

1682
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 19: your question? Well, he's had a pretty major reshuffle of

1683
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 19: his ministry that Duddy had in his cabinet looking after immigration,

1684
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 19: he's one of his besties. Well, he's been bumped way

1685
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 19: back down the road to skills and training or something

1686
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 19: into an immigration comes a big head kicker from New

1687
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 19: South Wales, Tony Burke. He's no shrinking violet. He will

1688
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 19: take the fight up to Peter Dutton and the Opposition

1689
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 19: in the House. He's the best performer Labour's got basically,

1690
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 19: and that's why Albaneze. He's bumped him up in this reshuffle.

1691
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 19: Andrew Giles, that's the fellow's name. It just couldn't think

1692
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 19: of him. This week. Cost of living rose by one

1693
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 19: percent in the second quarter. That's an annual rate of

1694
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 19: three point eight percent. That's above the March quarter. But

1695
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 19: the Reserve Bank, as you say, meeting next week, what's

1696
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 19: it going to do? Is he going to really raise

1697
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 19: in restrates again? People are on their knees over here,

1698
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 19: and the inflation figure, according to people much smarter than me, Mike,

1699
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 19: that they are saying. The economists are saying, there's no

1700
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 19: need for the Reserve Bank to lift rates next week.

1701
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 19: What the figure basically does is push out further at

1702
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 19: the start of when the Reserve Bank could start cutting rates.

1703
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 19: So an answer to your question and around about way, Yeah, look,

1704
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 19: Albane is in trouble, so it's labor and they have

1705
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 19: to do something about it.

1706
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: Now. Rex is in trouble too. Yes, from my latest reckoning,

1707
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 2: they will survive regionally, which is good, but the intercities

1708
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 2: the problem is that, right or not?

1709
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 19: Yeah, it is And I mean basically this is the

1710
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 19: little airline that was doing really really well in the

1711
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 19: bush I mean, you know the size of Australia. I mean,

1712
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 19: Quanas is not flying out of these tiny regional centers.

1713
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 19: There's no money in it for Quantus, but flying little

1714
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,799
Speaker 19: small aircraft, the dash Eates and whatnot, the little propeller

1715
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 19: driven planes that Rex was using, it has been using

1716
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 19: for over twenty years.

1717
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: That was making a The airline was making money.

1718
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 19: Two thousand staff all over the country. But what happened

1719
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 19: They decided, you know what, I think we can run

1720
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 19: Sydney Melbow and one of the busiest routes and most

1721
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 19: lucrative roots in the world. Well no, you can't, because

1722
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 19: they're up against Quantas, they're up against Virgin, they're up

1723
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,839
Speaker 19: against Jetstar, and so poor old Rex it came mustling

1724
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 19: in against the big boys and just got you know,

1725
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 19: kick to the curb. Don't forget Bonza Airlines, the beautiful

1726
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 19: name Bonza that went belly up only three months ago.

1727
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 19: If Rex can survive in the bush, there'll be a

1728
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 19: lifeline for those smaller communities that basically have Rex. Goes Mike.

1729
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 19: They haven't got any air lenks to the rest of Australia.

1730
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: They're also running a pilot academy and they run engine

1731
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: maintenance and fly and fly out services, all of which

1732
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: is very important as well able to imagine, Oh for sure,

1733
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: quick question about Barnaby Joyce and has put the bullets

1734
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: and you know, the bullet this and the magazine that,

1735
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: and you know, is that a secondble offense? Has that

1736
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 2: been a big story or not?

1737
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 11: Really it's really died, you know.

1738
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 19: I mean the government did try to make something of it,

1739
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,879
Speaker 19: but people who have shrugged their shoulders. That's just Barnaby.

1740
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 19: I mean, look, he is the most colorful politician we've

1741
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 19: got over here. I mean, you got Pauline Hansen, but

1742
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 19: she's just a nasty old witch on the sidelines these days,

1743
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 19: according to many people. I think she's I still think

1744
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 19: she's got color and movement and she's pretty appealing to

1745
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 19: a lot of people. Partaby Joys is a different thing

1746
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 19: in Tyler. Here he is lying on the pavement and

1747
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 19: camera this year, drunk as a lord, gabbling away into

1748
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 19: his phone with a zar M Williams up on the

1749
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 19: top of a flower box. I mean, most people would

1750
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 19: be dead if in politics, if that happened to them.

1751
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: Not Vardaby.

1752
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 19: He keeps sailing on. And he was up there at

1753
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 19: a wind farm protest. We don't want wind farms up

1754
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 19: here in northern New South Wales. And as you say,

1755
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 19: he told the crowd, when you go to the ballot box,

1756
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 19: load those ballots up, put him in the magazine and

1757
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 19: bang goodbye bow and bang goodbye elbow.

1758
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: Well that's a.

1759
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 19: Dreadful thing to say, particularly in the context of Donald

1760
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 19: Trump having, as hear, blown off, but no one seems

1761
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 19: to care.

1762
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I got to go to the Olympics. Are

1763
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: you following the Olympus by the way and enjoying them?

1764
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 19: Yeah, very much, very much, very much. Indeed, I'm delighted

1765
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 19: those younger Kiwi girls got up. Delight of the Kiwi

1766
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 19: women won the rugby. Fantastic. And I still don't quite

1767
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 19: know what happened with the with the the Kiwi fellow

1768
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 19: in the triathlon. I mean he busters boiler and there

1769
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 19: they are at the end. I mean it's lovely, isn't it.

1770
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 19: Sport is a great thing. They got their arms around

1771
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 19: each other saying well done mate.

1772
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were made. He was on the Pregram yesterday

1773
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: he argued he'd run out, he had nothing left to

1774
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: give the bloke who beat him. You know, they've been

1775
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 2: tossling away together for years and so it was kind

1776
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: of nice at the end. But he felt he was

1777
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 2: at peace with it. It wasn't like he blew it

1778
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: put it that way.

1779
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 11: Oh that's nice.

1780
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 19: And my memory I think of all time, well one

1781
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 19: of them. I had to Peter Snell in my car

1782
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 19: one time over here he and his wife. I took

1783
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 19: him out of the airport.

1784
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 2: Did you did you know it was Peter Snell? I

1785
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: mean you used to pick up a lot of people

1786
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 2: and just take them to the airport. Did you know that?

1787
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 19: I was at an Olympic function? And I had to

1788
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 19: be because I remember seeing Peter Snell as a ten

1789
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 19: year old when in Rome. I love it on a

1790
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 19: black and white telly in Papanui and christ Church.

1791
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: There you go, pap When does snow win sixty sixty

1792
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: sixty four?

1793
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 19: He got the double? Didn't He won in nineteen sixty

1794
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 19: in Rome, then he won in Tokyo in sixty four,

1795
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 19: and he got the double in Tokyo in sixty four.

1796
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 19: And John Davies I think finished third the bronze medal

1797
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 19: of the fifteen hundred.

1798
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: Unfortunately wasn't born at the time. Murray can't can't share

1799
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 2: that for Oh well, mate, nice to see it. Murray

1800
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: Olds it is eight forty five thesis for it as

1801
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from mine. I just thought we needed

1802
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: to get to Paris for a couple of quick things

1803
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: and catch up with Guy Havel Guy evening morning. Whatever,

1804
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: how are you.

1805
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 22: Evening morning? Yeah, very good, thank you. And then over

1806
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 22: now after it's just started absolutely bucketing down. But yes,

1807
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 22: very good, very good, loving it.

1808
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 2: It's funny I was watching I can't remember what I

1809
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: was watching earlier on this morning, but it was some

1810
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: sort of race that could have wouldn't have been the marathon,

1811
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: but anyway, they're running through the streets and it looked wet. Again.

1812
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 22: How much rain have you had the twenty kilometer walk

1813
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 22: It would have beene. That was it, that's no doubt.

1814
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 22: Looked like they were running. We haven't had a lot

1815
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 22: here in Paris, but we are getting a lot right now. Well, actually,

1816
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 22: I lie. We had about a two day period around

1817
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 22: the opening ceremony where it did bucket down, and now

1818
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 22: it's just started to rain promptly again, I'd say for

1819
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 22: the first time since then. Other than that, it's been

1820
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 22: pretty nice and in the last few days. It's been

1821
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 22: very very hot, as you no doubtsaw during that triathh

1822
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 22: on yesterday.

1823
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of quick ones for you. The Chinese

1824
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: doping thing, the Chinese testing thing, plus this Algerian boxer.

1825
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: How big a deal is this?

1826
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 22: Well, I've got to be honest, if you, Mike. Until

1827
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 22: your producer texts me a little bit earlier on in

1828
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 22: the day about the Algeria boxer thing, I didn't even know.

1829
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 22: That's how kind of in the zone we are with

1830
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 22: what we're doing around New Zealand. I haven't seen it yet.

1831
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 22: In saying that that's a big story, I just think

1832
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 22: this is the sort of thing that they need to

1833
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 22: figure out very quickly, because it's obviously something that's happening

1834
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 22: in society a lot more in terms of people changing

1835
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 22: their genders and that sort of thing. But I don't

1836
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 22: think it's a in those sorts of sports like boxing,

1837
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 22: particularly where it is so physical and that sort of

1838
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 22: thing that is something where you can't take risks in

1839
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 22: terms of the gender side of things. So I think

1840
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 22: this will be a very very big story over the

1841
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 22: next twenty four hours. The fact that the Italian just

1842
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 22: walked off after forty six seconds of about that's not

1843
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 22: a great look for the IOC particular.

1844
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, while I've got your Djopovic the other day and

1845
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: has complained about the test, how many sports there, in

1846
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 2: your view, are not of what you would call Olympic

1847
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: standard or have participants in there where you think, you

1848
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 2: know what this is bollocks, whereas there are others, you know,

1849
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: the Simone Biles the greatest thing you'll ever see, versus

1850
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: people who can barely hit a ball or run.

1851
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 22: Yeah, too right, I mean things like athletics, swimming, triathlon, gymnastics,

1852
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 22: as you mentioned, those sorts of sports. They are absolutely

1853
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 22: Olympic sports. But then you look at sports like rugby

1854
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 22: sevens and football and tennis. You know, like these men

1855
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 22: and women don't play tennis to win Olympic you know,

1856
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 22: they played tennis to win Grand Slams. And it's the

1857
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 22: same with the golf. They don't play golf to win

1858
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 22: Olympic medals. They play golf to win major championships. They

1859
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 22: don't play football to win Olympic medals. They play football

1860
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 22: to win the World Cup. And in the football as well,

1861
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 22: there are under twenty it's mainly an under twenty three

1862
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 22: competition bar a couple of players who are over the age,

1863
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 22: So that to me seems a bit ridiculous as well.

1864
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 22: I think there are a few sports they could get

1865
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 22: rid of and saying that they're adding sports like break

1866
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 22: dancing or breaking as it's called in these games. So

1867
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 22: which would you rather? Would you rather those sports that

1868
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 22: I mentioned or would you rather things like breaking?

1869
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 17: Yeah?

1870
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: Fair enough? All right, go well mate, we'll catch up Monday.

1871
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Guyhervelt in the was about ten

1872
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: to eleven at night, not that he was going home

1873
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: or anything. Sammy was worried he might be in bed

1874
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 2: tonight that he's actually he's out on that he was

1875
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: out on the town. But a ras with old guy

1876
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: on a on a Thursday night, it's nine to nine.

1877
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: Geelbreak visit with al Vida Retirement Communities, news dogs, that'd be.

1878
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: I think I've got to mention the moment ago about

1879
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 2: Meta's reality Labs unit was yes, they lost about nine

1880
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 2: billion dollars in the second quarter, but since late twenty twenty,

1881
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: because I remember last time they reported, I said, how

1882
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: many billions do you reckon? They're prepared to lose before

1883
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 2: somebody wakes up to the fact that this is probably

1884
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: going nowhere fast. So far they've wrecked up losses of

1885
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: fifty billion so in New Zealand dollars, about ninety billion

1886
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: New Zealand dollars pretty much about the size of the

1887
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: New Zealand comedy. Just at some point it's all going

1888
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: to come right, apparently five minutes away from nine.

1889
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 3: Trending now with Chemist Wells Great savings every day.

1890
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: Right, So movie out of Australia for you, this could

1891
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 2: be of some interest. It's a it's a comedy horror.

1892
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: It's about Rippy.

1893
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: Now.

1894
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: Rippy is a giant zombie kangaroo.

1895
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 13: What did you say?

1896
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: Evil?

1897
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 11: A beast?

1898
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: It will change you in your suit?

1899
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 17: Have you ever seen anything like this? Whatever did?

1900
01:26:59,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 9: This?

1901
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 19: Is bloody strong.

1902
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 3: Tom apart like nothing.

1903
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 11: It looks like a bike wound.

1904
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a crocker hacka dingos.

1905
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 17: What is that.

1906
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 13: Assist?

1907
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 7: It's a massive route.

1908
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: Foot top.

1909
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,919
Speaker 8: Come on, you've got to make you're a little bit intrigued.

1910
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: Hm hmm. It's called the Red Now in it is

1911
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: Angie Milliken and Michael Bean bean Bine behind Bain Bain.

1912
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: Angie was a terminator and Michael was in Aliens director says,

1913
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 2: if you're a fan of the film Piranhas and Zombie

1914
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 2: Beavers or Zombieavers, just Zombieveras, not zombie Beavers.

1915
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 8: Zomb Beaver, you're obviously an aficionado.

1916
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: If you're a fan of either of those two aforementioned movies,

1917
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: then you're just gonna love the Red. It's out in theaters.

1918
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they're spending the money putting it into a theater,

1919
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: but nevertheless, there you got. There's October thirty one. We're

1920
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 2: gonna hardly wait. Just confirming in my mind that eels

1921
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: are useless and that's sixteenth on the table, so given away.

1922
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 8: That's a bit nervous thing, isn't it could don't We

1923
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 8: only beat teams that we were ahead of us on

1924
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 8: the table?

1925
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: Could be tight? No last week, No last week. Put

1926
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: that right. We were wests last week who were even

1927
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: more useless than the eels. We put them to the sword.

1928
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: Sort up. Anyway, it's good news tonight with the warriors.

1929
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: You have a fabulous weekend. Six o'clock Monday. Look forward

1930
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Speaker 2: to your company as all these happy days.

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