1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Thirteen away from five Barries. So for seeing your political 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: correspondence with us. 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Barry, Hello, good afternoon. 4 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Here's the Public Service Commission, the right agency to do 5 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: this inquiry into the allegations around the Marti Party. 6 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, yes, I think from a government perspective it is 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: don't forget. You've got the Police, the Privacy Commissioner, other 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: agencies like Stats New Zealand, the MSD and even more 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: looking at this issue now, both concerning the censors and 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: the immunization for COVID. So the Prime Minister says the 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: public has got to have confidence in the electoral system 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: and the information they provide in confidence areas. 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: The inquiry will cover all relevant government agencies, including Crown entities, 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: and this inquiry will run concurrently to the investigations run 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: by the agencies and will not compromise the processes or 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: the investigations that the Police and Privacy Commissioner already have underway. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: Here'll be further. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: Announcements this week on the terms of reference, the timing 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: for the inquiry as well as the independent reviewer who 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: will lead the process. I just say New Zealanders must 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: have confidence that the data they provide to government agencies 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: or others acting on their behalf is used appropriately in 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: a subject to adequate protections. 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know he wasted no time in getting back, 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: didn't he. He said, we'll wait to see when he 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: was in the Pacific, He'll wait to see what happens 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: with these other inquiries. But he's decided that, Look, the 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: issue is big, It's an enormous issue, and so it 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: really has to be put. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 5: Tois allegations like this cut to the heart of our confidency. Yeah, 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 5: cuts to the heart of our confidence in elected members 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 5: as well. Right, So, lest interests also to clear this up, 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 5: what do you make of the Chinese premiere arriving here 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: on Thursday? 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: Well, can we blame is. 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: The little period where they didn't turn up and visit 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: us at all between twenty seventeen and now. Is that 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: because of their attitude towards Labor or is that more 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: because of the relationship that they had with Australia. 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 6: No. 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: I think it probably had a lot to do with 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: the relationship they had with the government. 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: Because there were very little visits. 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: On a trade mission perspective to China when Labor was 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: in power, and they see that New Zealand is now 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: serious We've had a few ministers up there with trade missions. 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Todd McLay was standing alongside Chris Luxen and basically he's 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: the Premier. Lee is coming here. But he said there 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: will be a number of announcements on Thursday and Friday. 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: So clearly the announcements have already been worked out between 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: the Chinese and the New Zealand government. Well, of course 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: it always works that way, so expect that on Thursday 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: and Friday, and then at the weekend the Prime Minister's 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: off to Japan. Everyone's traveling at the moment pretty expensive 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: on the old tax bar, but we've got to get 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: out there or a tiny country. 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: At the bottom of the Pacific. 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: So he's leading a thirty five member trade mission to 59 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: Tokyo and he'll be there next week. And I think 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: that's a good thing for New Zealand. 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: A bit of a coup for the ACTS Party to 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: get Paul Henry speak, don't you think. 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it came at you know what they call 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: a change maker's rally. Those that attended it paid fifty 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: bucks ahead to go to it here in Auckland and 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: they got a pretty good turnout. Of course, no ACT 67 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: event now would be complete without a poke at National 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: because they want to see themselves as being totally independent 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: of the National led government. What David Seymour said that 70 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: our allies and government have said they get that'd get 71 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: faster decisions if they didn't need to consult ACT. But 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: he said they don't only need fast decisions, they need 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: better decisions. So there's your poke at National. Well, if 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: you listen to their guests, guest speaker Paul Henry, he 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: left them no doubt as to where his loyalties lay, 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: not that National, not that we had any confusion because 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: he once stood for the National Party. But with ACT, 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: he says, they're not afraid of change, even if it 79 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: means upsetting a few voters. 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 6: I think this country is deeply in the shit, and 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 6: I think the options to leverage ourselves out of the 82 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 6: shit are becoming increasingly limited, largely because the people willing 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 6: and capable of doing it are few, and most importantly 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 6: because so many good people just cringe inside and say 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 6: nothing as matches are lit to incinerate more of New Zealand, 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: which we used to stand for, which used to be 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 6: important when people globally used to look at this country 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 6: in envy. I believe act could be the last cab 89 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: on the ramp heading in the right direction. 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well the you. 91 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: Go his hand up. 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 5: Jeez, I missed that man from our stories and our 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: air waves, don't you. 94 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: I think he got carried away with the Indian minister 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: dick shit because now that you. 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: Don't need to revisit that because on that actually and 97 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: it would largely exonerate Paul Henry. He just really quickly 98 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: is and I don't need it in great detail because 99 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: I have just outlaid the case right. But it's not 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: a crime for him if he lives in carpety. And 101 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: why can I to have a flat in Wellington? Is it? 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: No? No, of course it's not. 103 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: He owned the flat in Wellington seven hundred bucks a week. 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 6: Ye. 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: The taxpayer is paying for it because he's letting it 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: to himself. 107 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: Which everybody does. 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: Well. 109 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: This is though he's in commuting distance. If you look 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: at the inland revenue, no, inland revenue defines. 111 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: Well, can I just say what the official. 112 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Mine is before anything that's reasonable? 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: Can I just say what the official line is? Inland revenue? 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: The charges our tax as they say, between fifty and 115 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: eighty kilometers for. 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: Each leg of the journey. 117 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: Is commuting distant, and many people in the carpety commute 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: to Wellington, so he's if you're like double dipping it away. 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: He's got a house and why can I a very 120 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: nice one apparent in a nice flat and Wellington. Now 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: he's getting. 122 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Star at night. 123 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: Oh hither, I mean a lot of backbenches. And I 124 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: heard you say that. Start drive after seven and eight 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: in the. 126 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Morning when they have meetings. Oh, for goodness, I'm tunning 127 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: off your mic by Barry Soaper seven away from five. 128 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 129 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 130 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio