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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: B Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Doo. Okay,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, you know that theme? Okay, that is, of

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Speaker 2: course the theme to Star Wars and Bird which is

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Speaker 2: the theme to Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 3: Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Uh, those written by the same guy. He also wrote

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Speaker 2: the theme to Jaws, the theme to Shindler's List, the

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Speaker 2: theme to e T. He wrote the songs for the

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Speaker 2: first two home alone films. Pretty amazing, eh. He wrote

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Speaker 2: songs in the Harry Potter films. He's a remarkable composer.

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Speaker 2: His name is John Williams. But the reason I'm mentioning

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Speaker 2: John Williams is he also had an incredibly musical son.

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Speaker 2: His son is called Williams, and Joe Williams just happens

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Speaker 2: to be the lead singer of Toto. What a crazy

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Speaker 2: kind of connection, eh. Anyway, I mean, how many how

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Speaker 2: many streams has has Africa had these days? Like several gazillion?

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Speaker 2: I would have thought we're going to catch up with

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Speaker 2: Joe Williams's affects are NW after ten o'clock this morning

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Speaker 2: to talk about his kind of life and career with Toto.

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Speaker 2: And some of his film work because he ended up,

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Speaker 2: of course working on The Lion King. So just one

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Speaker 2: of those kind of crazy Hollywood connections anyway, So I

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Speaker 2: really looking forward to that. Make sure you stick around

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Speaker 2: after ten o'clock this morning so you can hear Joe

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Speaker 2: Williams ahead of Toto's New Zealand shows. It's just coming

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Speaker 2: out to nine thirty now in our Sporto. Andrew Savill

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Speaker 2: is with us this morning. Count to sav got to

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Speaker 2: Jack G.

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Speaker 4: You're a mind of information. I had no idea about

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Speaker 4: the John. I mean, everybody knows that John Williams music score. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's generations have grown up listening to his

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Speaker 4: movie score. Is what an amazing, an amazing connection. And

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Speaker 4: then has unproducers or helps produce a song like Africa

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Speaker 4: and Rosanna and toe the line.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just all those kind of connections. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: guess Joe Williams is singing Hakuna Matata, you know, as

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Speaker 2: simple as the adults.

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Speaker 3: Yes, anyway, crazy connection speak.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Star Wars, yeah, there's a few Darth Vader,

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Speaker 4: a few Darth Vader type characters coming out of Red Bull, right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So First of all, what a fiesco. I just

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Speaker 2: can't it seems it seems so brutal.

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Speaker 4: And it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing for Red Bull. I agree,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying I'm not saying Liam Lawson has

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Speaker 4: embarrassed them. I'm saying the decisions they have made this

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Speaker 4: primarily the one to drop Liam Lawson down to racing

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Speaker 4: balls after two racism is embarrassing. The rest of the

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Speaker 4: teams on pit Lane and Pit Lane will be laughing yeah,

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Speaker 4: and they will be the knives will be out. They

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Speaker 4: will be ready to tear chunks of Red Ball in

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Speaker 4: Japan at the end of next week. I've tried to

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Speaker 4: unpack this during the week.

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Speaker 3: Jack and I had the.

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Speaker 4: Good fortune of sitting down with Kenny Smith yesterday, a

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Speaker 4: great a legend of New Zealand motor sport, and he

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Speaker 4: just put a lot of things in layman's terms for

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Speaker 4: me about the Red Bull car being very twitchy at

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Speaker 4: the front and I said, what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 4: And he said, well, it's a chassis thing. And I said, well,

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Speaker 4: can't they fix that? He said, it's not a quick

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Speaker 4: fix because you wouldn't need to rebuild Liam Lawson a

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Speaker 4: whole new car if they wanted to move away from

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Speaker 4: the type of car that it'd set up for Max

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Speaker 4: for staff. And so that's the key issue there is

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Speaker 4: that it is incredibly hard to drive. But Liam Lawson,

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Speaker 4: given his talent, if he had time in that car,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he would turn things around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I was looking for an explanation of that as well,

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Speaker 2: because everyone says the Red Bull car so hard to drive,

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Speaker 2: and yep, it's great for Max, but everyone else finds

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Speaker 2: it so difficult. And clearly he's had all these different

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Speaker 2: teammates over the last few years, who have you know,

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Speaker 2: struggled to replicate his performances at the very least.

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Speaker 3: I saw an.

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Speaker 2: Interview with Alex Albon, who was his teammates. After a while,

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Speaker 2: he said, to put in labor'serms. He said, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you turn the sensitivity on a computer mouse, if

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Speaker 2: you turn that up to absolute max, and then you

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Speaker 2: bump the mouse and the cursor on your screen goes

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Speaker 2: all haywire across the screen.

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Speaker 3: He said, it's kind of like that. He said, it

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Speaker 3: basically just gets more and more and more and more

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Speaker 2: More sensitive as the season continues because they continue to

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Speaker 2: tweak the car, continue to tweak the car as Max

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Speaker 2: for Stap and liked it. But he said for for

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Speaker 2: Stap and it's great for everyone else, It's like using

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Speaker 2: a hyper sensitive mouse basically.

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Speaker 4: So then the key question is why not set up

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Speaker 4: two different cars for two three?

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Speaker 3: Allowed to do that in Formula One? Part of them?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I presume, yeah, they build a car, but

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Speaker 4: look at McLaren and look at Ferrari again, two different drivers,

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Speaker 4: two very different drivers in each of those teams and Mercedes,

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Speaker 4: and they seem to click, and they seem they seem to.

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Speaker 1: Work very well.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think it proves that Sergio Perez and maybe

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Speaker 4: not as bad a driver as everybody what he was,

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Speaker 4: Pierre Gasley, not a batter driver, Alex albon So. So

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Speaker 4: back to back to Red Bulls decisions. Look, they should

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Speaker 4: have given leea more time in an RB car. They

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Speaker 4: can test him in an old car or give him practice

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Speaker 4: laps in an older card, it's not the new one.

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Speaker 4: That that that probably would have helped maybe longer in

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Speaker 4: the Racing Bulls team, which he is now going to get.

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Speaker 4: I think the key for Lawson now is to prove

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Speaker 4: to everyone that he still belongs an F one, which

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Speaker 4: he does. And it wouldn't it be amazing in Suzuka

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Speaker 4: and Japan next week if he qualified higher than the

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Speaker 4: than both Red Bulls, if not Yuki Sonoda, which is

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Speaker 4: probably going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I really hope he can use

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Speaker 2: this to fuel him, you know, I really hope he can.

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Speaker 2: He can use this as motivation to come out.

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Speaker 4: He's always He's always struck me as a as a

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Speaker 4: tough kid, doesn't take a secret level on the track,

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Speaker 4: you know, And so this would have this would have

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Speaker 4: hurt of it, I'm sure, But again, he strikes me

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Speaker 4: as the type of kid who'll in the next a

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Speaker 4: few days get over that turn it around if he

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Speaker 4: hasn't already, and then just be so motivated to prove

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of people wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really really I hope you're right. I hope

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Speaker 2: he's able to do that very quickly. Caine's thump. The

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Speaker 2: tars Landers went down to the Brumbies last night, So

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Speaker 2: one for the Aussies, one for these Yellen teams. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately for the Highlanders, I've lost another close one. That's

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Speaker 4: damaging as this season carries. I think there's three or

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Speaker 4: four losses in a row now, very very tight games

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Speaker 4: all of them. But gee, where was the Hurricanes Jack?

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Speaker 4: They look to have broken the shackles. That was an

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Speaker 4: amazing performance last night against the war Atars. I think

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Speaker 4: the second best Ossie team. They came to Wellington with

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Speaker 4: one loss and then bang the the Hurricanes struck fifty

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Speaker 4: points in them that the Hurricanes have always been known

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Speaker 4: as a flear type team with a lot of attack,

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Speaker 4: always very good lusies, you know, back in the when

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Speaker 4: the competition first started. Jerry Collins, Rodney Solo. We're seeing

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Speaker 4: that again. We saw that again last night from the Hurricane,

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Speaker 4: and so I think after a struggle at the start

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Speaker 4: of the season, I think we're seeing some good signs

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Speaker 4: out of the Canes.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen adolescents yet?

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't, but I've heard a lot of people

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Speaker 4: speaking about it at work, and I heard your intro

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Speaker 4: about the one shot per episode, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: That's a remarkable thing to do. That's a very very

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Speaker 4: tricky thing. I've seen music video shot with one shot,

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Speaker 4: but not forty five to fifty minutes of a TV

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Speaker 4: show episode. The interesting thing is I found out this morning.

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Speaker 3: Just is that Brad Pitt and his production executive producers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: a bit of a hand in it.

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Speaker 4: And because he's a huge fan of Stephen Graham, they

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Speaker 4: work together and snatches all those years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and how funny ah yeah key.

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Speaker 4: Stephen Graham looked like he was about seventeen and now

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Speaker 4: he's now, he's gone on to become a such a

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Speaker 4: fantastic gainst.

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Speaker 2: So good, Yeah, he's so good. All right, Hey, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: We've better keep moving. We'll catch again, sir in our

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Speaker 2: sporto Andrew Savill for.

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