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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic, asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 2: He had been boning and welcome today new data on

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Speaker 2: the price of the groceries and whether the cost of

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Speaker 2: living crisis is still real? Driver license rule changes, Prime

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Speaker 2: ministers in we look into our trust or lack of

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Speaker 2: in the medium Jason and Sad the commentary box ups right,

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Speaker 2: of course, Richard Arnold with the whirling dervish of tariff.

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Speaker 2: Steve Price with the official campaign launches yesterday in Australia,

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Speaker 2: asking welcome to the week seven past six of the

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Speaker 2: banks were in front of the Select Committee again the

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Speaker 2: other day. Topic this time are questions around whether they

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Speaker 2: should be doing more to help customers who had money billions,

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Speaker 2: as it turns out, actually earn some interest on their deposits.

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Speaker 2: We have literally billions of dollars of our money in

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Speaker 2: accounts that pay nothing, one bank said, they fire off

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Speaker 2: the odd text and reminder email. Of course, the inferences

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Speaker 2: given banking are so political these days that the banks

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Speaker 2: and that yet another reason they're so fabulously profitable. But

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Speaker 2: bigger picture, what's happened to this country in the past

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Speaker 2: half dozen years or so, led largely by the previous government,

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Speaker 2: is the idea that a government, a body, are someone

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Speaker 2: does something for you. You no longer need to do

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Speaker 2: anything for yourself. The new cycle, if you listen carefully,

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Speaker 2: is littered with any number of groups who want the government,

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Speaker 2: the company, the entity to do something for you. A

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Speaker 2: recent survey on school lunches, you might remember who should

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Speaker 2: provide your child's lunch? A third said the government? Can

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Speaker 2: I suggest, Although yes, banks could ring you, write to you,

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Speaker 2: nudge you, remind you. Is it not possible you could

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Speaker 2: actually look after your own money if you've got thousands,

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Speaker 2: and those thousands can be placed in an account to

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Speaker 2: do nothing. At what point does the responsibility start to

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Speaker 2: lie with you if you can't be bothered doing something

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Speaker 2: about it. Could it be argued that, well, that's on you.

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Speaker 2: Seems hard to me to forget about thousands of dollars,

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Speaker 2: many thousands of dollars it's easy to forget either way, Yes,

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Speaker 2: a bank should be a good corporate citizen. Of course

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Speaker 2: they should be. But then I pay you to be

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Speaker 2: a good punter or a good custodian of your wealth,

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Speaker 2: or be awake enough to know what's going on with

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Speaker 2: your money. Imagine, just imagine if we could make our

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Speaker 2: kids lunches and look after our money. That's almost like

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Speaker 2: being an adult.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: So plenty of on going back and forward, up and

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Speaker 2: down on the circus that is the tariffs. The White

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Speaker 2: House has Luton accounts spinning like a top on China.

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Speaker 3: I am confident this is going to work out with China.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Is it in a tough spot now? Of course it is.

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Speaker 3: But that'll you'll see though, all of that energy will

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Speaker 3: sort of decline and will end up in a perfectly

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Speaker 3: reasonable place with China.

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Speaker 2: I'm confident of that also, Navarro, the big problem we

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Speaker 2: have are the non terriff barriers, the currency manipulation, the dumping,

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Speaker 3: All of that stuff that are that we have no

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 2: Also, in the political demand, this ongoing idea that Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith might give away sport on the is and become

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Speaker 2: the president.

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Speaker 6: I would hope somebody else would step up. That's more

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Speaker 6: qualified than me. But if it has to come down

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Speaker 6: to me, it is something.

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Speaker 5: I would consider.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I would, because I don't mind a thought of

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Speaker 6: tussling with these folks at or on the left or

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Speaker 2: As regards the wars, neither looks particularly promising. This morning,

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Speaker 2: I'm a friend to tell you the Russian showing no

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Speaker 7: The death toll will almost certainly go up. It follows

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Speaker 7: another major strike last week on the southern city of Creevyv,

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Speaker 7: and it is a familiar tactic by Moscow to target

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Speaker 2: The Russian bloke in the UK doesn't sound like a

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Speaker 8: If you believe there will run up as soon as

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Speaker 8: American is saying something.

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Speaker 5: Will be the case.

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Speaker 8: We have our vital priorities and our vital interest in this.

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Speaker 2: Conflict and in the Middle East, the Israelis are expanding

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Speaker 9: It comes at the stage where people desperately need medical

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Speaker 5: To the needs.

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Speaker 2: all the others near the world of ninety. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it's all bad news economically in America this morning. The

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Speaker 2: sentiment consumer sentiment's gone through the floor. University of Michigan

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Speaker 2: to be fifty four, so nothing close. Expectation on inflation's

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Speaker 2: to the ten year treasury. The yields have top four

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Speaker 2: and a half percent out of the weekend. Oh, and

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Speaker 2: mortgages went through seven percent, So good times. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we did get some very good news economically over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. The UK came in with zero point five

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Speaker 2: so they'll take that. And talking to our son in

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Speaker 2: so people will be feeling good. Fourteen past again, I'm

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Speaker 2: having funds of management. Monday morning, Greg Smith, good morning

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Speaker 2: to you. Head's still spinning their smartphones, chips Watson, what's

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Speaker 9: Yeah, lot's going on, isn't there? So look, well the

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Speaker 9: good news Obviously market's rallied on that pause last week,

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Speaker 9: and I think they should do better tonight as well.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's what's happened.

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Speaker 9: Basically, as you say, computers, processes, chips, electronics, they are

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Speaker 9: excluded from the reciprocal tariff, so they fall outside that

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Speaker 9: They raised their tariffs on US goods eighty four to

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Speaker 9: I think basically just an acknowledgement that they can't make

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Speaker 9: iPhone production. Also comes up. Remember the pre secretary last

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Speaker 9: week she said that iPhones can easily be made in

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Speaker 9: Reckon will take around about three years to move ten

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Speaker 9: Also they realize that Americaans acting to be happy paying

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Speaker 9: won't be so so happy. So if exemption covers three

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Speaker 9: this another all olive branch. Well, basically I suppose the

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Speaker 9: US blinking first and the game of trade war chicken.

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Speaker 9: It also might includes exemptions on seedback to manufacturing equipment.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, indeed, And then we come to the aforementioned

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Speaker 2: confidence everyone miserable and not surprisingly Yeah, as you.

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Speaker 9: Say, the University of Michigan survey was a bit downbeat

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Speaker 9: So you can legally say that consumers are terrified, worry

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Speaker 2: Now what about us? The manufacturing still positive, but do

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Speaker 2: Good Confirmation, Cody's Dusty son. Cody's currently the WWE champion.

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Speaker 2: year to March supply costs of risen two percent Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 2: So that grocery supply cost at two percent, that's well

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Speaker 12: We do seem to have settled a bit more. There's

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Speaker 2: But unlike previous times where costs were simply passed on

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Speaker 2: I get that. Having said that, do we have a

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Speaker 2: On you, Bradley. Good to have you on the program.

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Speaker 2: As always, you got to trust him. I mean, surely

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Speaker 2: Brad Olson? The what's to argue? With eighteen minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven Paul for Trump this morning, approval ratings on

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Speaker 2: economy inflation not good, economy forty four percent approved, fifty

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Speaker 2: six percent disapprove. On the economy forty percent approved, sixty

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Speaker 2: percent disapprove is down four points overall. He sits at

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Speaker 2: forty seven, which is down from fifty, So things not

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Speaker 2: trending in the right direction. More shortly, with Richard eighteen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iheard radio

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Speaker 2: It be Mike. I think the problem is that everyone's

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Speaker 2: looking at the inflation number, not the actual number of

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Speaker 2: its ten dollars for butter and it was six dollars

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Speaker 2: last year. It doesn't matter if it only go up

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Speaker 2: another dollar. It's your wages. If you wages haven't well,

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Speaker 2: that's what Bradley was saying. You wages have. Wages are

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Speaker 2: on average outpacing the price increases these days, which is

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Speaker 2: getting back to some form of normality. Mike, it's not milk.

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Speaker 2: It's council rates and insurance one hundred percent. That's the

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Speaker 2: cost plus accounting that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Six forty five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance.

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: The States forgo Richard. I'm very good money to you.

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Speaker 4: Good make now.

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Speaker 2: The Shapiro business is very serious.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 13: Violence again, yes, on the political scene with the Pennsylvania

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Speaker 13: Democratic Governor Joshapiro and his family escaping an apparent arts

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Speaker 13: and attack on his home, the Governor's mansion. This was

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Speaker 13: two in the morning today. They were lucky to get out.

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Speaker 13: It appears there is a significant amount of damage to

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Speaker 13: the building. That's what officials are saying. Joshapiro is a

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Speaker 13: Democrat who's been talked about as a potential presidential hope

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Speaker 13: for twenty eight This attack has taken place just after

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Speaker 13: the governor, who is Jewish, had celebrated the first night

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Speaker 13: of the Jewish holiday of pass Over. They were awakened

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Speaker 13: by police and by other first responders who were at

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Speaker 13: their front door trying to alert them and get them out.

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Speaker 13: Shapiro says he and his wife and family are eternally

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Speaker 13: grateful to those who came to their aid in this

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Speaker 13: keeping them safe. Obviously there'll be a lot more to

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Speaker 13: all of this or reward has just been posted, but

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Speaker 13: seems to be in a close call.

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Speaker 2: But where are we at with the terrorists by the way,

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Speaker 2: as though we can all keep up?

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, that's the point, isn't it. Chaos continues, and

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Speaker 13: who knows what Wall Street would have made of the

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Speaker 13: latest Trump announcement if they were operating through the weekend.

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Speaker 13: That's when Trump announced the tariff would be lifted from

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Speaker 13: iPhones and computers and some other electronic bits and pieces,

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Speaker 13: so Apple no longer had to put their precious iPhones

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Speaker 13: onto commercial flights from Jider up to India or whatever

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Speaker 13: to get around one hundred and forty five percent. It

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Speaker 13: was crazy, wasn't it. So did the president here blink

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Speaker 13: once again? Well, no, no, no, say his economic advisors.

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Speaker 13: The iPhones were going to be subject to the one

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Speaker 13: hundred and forty five percent US China tariff. But now

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Speaker 13: the high tech stuff has been put into a dim

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Speaker 13: basket with new tariffs yet to be announced, says COMMAS

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Speaker 13: Secretary Howard Lutnik.

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Speaker 3: They're exempt from the reciprocal tariffs, but they're included in

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Speaker 3: the semiconductor of tariffs which are coming in probably a

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Speaker 3: month or two. So these are coming soon.

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Speaker 13: Soon to be a coming attraction. Yeah, month or two ahead.

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Speaker 13: The high tech stuff will be hit by their own tariff,

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Speaker 13: says Lutnik about this. So there's what general ten percent

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Speaker 13: tariff which remains after the temporary ninety day pause on

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Speaker 13: other specific tariffs except the car industries tariff and the

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Speaker 13: tariff on steel and the tariff on aluminium, which are

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Speaker 13: still in effect of twenty five percent for most places

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Speaker 13: except for China, where it's still one hundred and forty

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Speaker 13: five percent. But all this could change shirt any time.

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Speaker 10: Got all that.

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Speaker 13: Meantime, has China made any move for talks? Trumpet plizer

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Speaker 13: Peter Navarro was pressed on.

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Speaker 3: That hev opened up our invitations to them. Look, the

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Speaker 3: president has has.

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Speaker 10: A really good Relationsharks right now.

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Speaker 3: President has a good, very good relationship with President Sheep.

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Speaker 13: No, they love each other, he said one of the

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Speaker 13: morning shows today. Even as China says they're never going

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Speaker 13: to be bullied. They will fight this to the bitter end.

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Speaker 13: While on the Democratic side of politics, Senator Elizabeth Warren

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Speaker 13: on the Banking Committee is saying this of how it's

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Speaker 13: been playing out of late, there is no teriff policy.

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Speaker 13: It's just all chaos and corruption. While the president is

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Speaker 13: facing claims that what he's doing is unconstitutional, say the Dems,

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Speaker 13: who note that the US Constitution's Article one, section eight

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Speaker 13: says it's the Congress that has the power to impose

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Speaker 13: duties and exercises, while Trump claims he is acting under

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Speaker 13: an emergency law by seizing foreign assets that make no

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Speaker 13: mention of tariffs. All the while the stock market continues

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Speaker 13: its die, eating into the assets of dozens and dozens

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Speaker 13: of people. So that is the ongoing concern that many

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Speaker 13: people have here, and we wait to see what the

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Speaker 13: and tomorrow, so that is a bit of the problem. However,

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Speaker 13: on the political front, we've had some appearances today. Bertie

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Speaker 13: Sanders was out on the hustings today. He made a

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Speaker 13: surprise appearance at Coachella Fest last night after addressing thirty

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Speaker 13: six thousand people today rally in Los Angeles yesterday. That

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Speaker 13: was his bigger so far, said Bernie at the music fest,

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Speaker 13: which is featuring the likes of Lady Gaga and Post

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Speaker 13: Malone and Green Day.

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Speaker 14: Now we got a president of the United States.

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Speaker 13: So Bernie Carl walking to the kids there, Mike, good

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Speaker 13: on you, Mike, go well, catch up Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold slights. By the way, the aforementioned Navarro, he

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Speaker 2: sorted out the Elon thing.

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Speaker 8: First of all, Elon and I agree, it's it's not

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Speaker 8: an issue.

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Speaker 4: No, he called you a moron and dumber than a sac.

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Speaker 2: Office have been called worse. Everything's fine with an Eli,

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Speaker 2: he's been called worse. By the way, the Louisiana Immigration

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Speaker 2: judge of before wooing the Khalil case, he can be

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Speaker 2: deported post potentially a serious foreign policy consequence. So that

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Speaker 2: came out over the weekend. And by the way, we've

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Speaker 2: got a number on the cars for the twenty five

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Speaker 2: percent tariffs. Don't forget about the twenty five percent on

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Speaker 2: the cars. They reckon or they crunch the numbers. This

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Speaker 2: Goldman sachs each new vehicle is going to go up

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Speaker 2: somewhere between two and four thousand dollars over the next

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Speaker 2: twelve months. And a company called BCG expects the tariffs

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Speaker 2: to add one hundred and ten billion to one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty billion on an annual run rate basis in

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Speaker 2: the cost to the industry. So how you saved money

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Speaker 2: and get better out of that? And no one knows.

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Speaker 5: Of course, it's.

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Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs.

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Speaker 2: Had been Trump had his medical over the weekend. Excellent

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Speaker 2: cognitive and physical health exhibiting robust cardiac, pulmonary, neurological, and

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Speaker 2: generical general physical function. Five our medicals, several blood tests,

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Speaker 2: cardiac examination, had some multra silences. Active lifestyle. This is

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Speaker 2: a message for everybody in life his active lifestyle. Say

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Speaker 2: whatever you want about him. The guy moves about the place,

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Speaker 2: he never stops, and he plays a lot of golf.

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Speaker 2: Active lifestyle continues to contribute significantly to his well been

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Speaker 2: to some neurological staff, metal status, nerves, motor sensory function, reflexes.

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Speaker 2: Did the Montreal cognitive assessment. He got thirty out of thirty.

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Speaker 2: That's where you draw a clock and name some animals

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Speaker 2: and repeat some words back five minutes later. Little bit

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Speaker 2: of minu sudden damage. That'll be the golf in Florida.

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Speaker 2: Benign skin lesion, Several medications to control the cholesterol. That'll

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Speaker 2: be the hamburgers. Aspirin for the cardiac prevention. Got a

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Speaker 2: cream for a skin condition. He weighs one hundred and

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Speaker 2: one kilos, which makes him overweight. Not obese.

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Speaker 10: He was.

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Speaker 2: That's two twenty four pounds. By the way, he was

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Speaker 2: two forty three, so he's trimmed up. Ah, so not obese.

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Speaker 2: Joints and muscles have full range of motion. He lost weight,

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Speaker 2: by the way. When he has hamburgers, he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: the buns anymore. He's a fun fact five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: While the ins and the outs, it's the Fiarz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business front activity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Making your flood Uber. How much does Uber boost our economy?

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Speaker 2: New report on this this morning global research firm Public First.

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Speaker 2: It's found that Uber contributed one point five billion to

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Speaker 2: our economy last year. So that's direct, indirect induced value

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Speaker 2: by Uber and the Uber Eats and for those who

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Speaker 2: work on the platform, delivery people all of that. They

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Speaker 2: value the flexibility the most, being able to jump on

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Speaker 2: and off couple of hours here and there. That flexibility

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Speaker 2: is valued at an estimated two hundred and sixty million.

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Speaker 2: That's a ropey number. They made that up. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how they come to that crap. Seventy percent of

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Speaker 2: drivers spent fewer than twenty hours per week working on

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Speaker 2: the platform, one in three, so they use it as

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Speaker 2: secondary income for restaurants and dairyes, supermarkets, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Who signed up. They generated around one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: million in additional revenue through orders. Seventy percent of the

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Speaker 2: app users say they found new restaurants through Uber Eats,

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Speaker 2: and here's an interesting stat fifty eight percent said they

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Speaker 2: went on to visit the restaurants in person. So that's

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Speaker 2: a value to the restaurants. I would have thought tourism.

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Speaker 2: What can we tell you two point eight million trips

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Speaker 2: to and from the airport and an estimated sixty eight

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Speaker 2: million in extra economic activity for local tourism businesses. As

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Speaker 2: far as the local events go, well extra what have

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Speaker 2: they got? Twenty one million for the nighttime economy? That's

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Speaker 2: people going to the sport and the shows and the

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Speaker 2: consert and the clubs and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So Uber's a valuable part of any modern Western economy.

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Speaker 2: Now you need a license, of course, to be an

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Speaker 2: Uber driver, and so they're changing the rules around licensing

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Speaker 2: in this country. I don't know what I mean. It'll

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Speaker 2: save you a little bit of money. I guess you

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Speaker 2: have one less test. But I don't know that they've

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Speaker 2: addressed anything substantive in this. I don't think it's going

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Speaker 2: to make us any better on the road. I mean,

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Speaker 2: will there be fewer idiots? Surely that's the test. Will

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Speaker 2: there be fewer idiots on the road. And my suspicion,

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Speaker 2: as the answers know Transport Minister Chris Bishop with us

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Speaker 2: on that trust in the media, do you believe any

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Speaker 2: of that? I don't believe it for a second. But

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Speaker 2: the co author of that report, and I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: why I don't believe it because I've I've got an argument

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Speaker 2: around it and will do the sport of course, the

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Speaker 2: e commentary box for you after eight news though, next.

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Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The mist breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the range Rover belae designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: Head be seven and past seven. So change coming to

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Speaker 2: the way we get behind the wheel only one practical

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Speaker 2: test instead of two. Restricted drivers with defensive driving and

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Speaker 2: the clean record will gain their full license up to

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Speaker 2: twelve months. The Transport Minister Chris Buship, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now the numbers I found interesting that don't have licenses.

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Speaker 2: Do we know why people don't have their full license?

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Speaker 2: We don't know exactly.

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Speaker 15: I'm an anecdotally certainly people I talk to going from

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Speaker 15: your restrictor to your full sitting in that second test,

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Speaker 15: if you already know how to drive, it's really stressful.

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Speaker 15: It's got expensive, by the way, it's one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 15: You've got to take time off school or work or

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Speaker 15: whatever you're doing. You've got to go bock it. You've

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Speaker 15: got to find a time that suits everybody a lot

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Speaker 15: of people just don't bother graduating from their restrictor to

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Speaker 15: their full So there you know, there are a lot

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Speaker 15: of people out there right now breaking the law, just

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Speaker 15: driving on their restricted that's not good. You also want

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Speaker 15: young people in particularly to graduate through the system properly,

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Speaker 15: and so we're bringing your own into line with other countries.

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Speaker 15: Most countries don't have a second practical test. Australia doesn't.

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Speaker 15: For example, people just graduate automatically through the system.

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Speaker 2: That's three hundred and sixty two dollars you talk about

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Speaker 2: for the cost. Do we know if that's inhibitive and

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Speaker 2: or is it a ripoff?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, certainly anecdotally it is a It is an inhibitor

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Speaker 15: for people from sitting there second practical for example. It's

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Speaker 15: partly why we're doing the consultation is to find out

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Speaker 15: a bit more about that. You know that the system

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Speaker 15: hasn't been reviewed since twenty eleven. Last time it was

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Speaker 15: done was back in twenty ten Stephen Joyce put the

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Speaker 15: age up from fifteen to sixteen for year lun of license.

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Speaker 15: But we basically haven't locked at the system since then.

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Speaker 15: So this is about keeping up to date with what's

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Speaker 15: happening and bringing the law into line with reality to

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Speaker 15: some extent.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the demeritive fifty instead of one hundred, is that

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Speaker 2: real or theory? In other words, does it make any

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Speaker 2: difference at all the people's driving habits or ability.

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Speaker 15: It's a quid pro quo for getting rid of the

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Speaker 15: second practical test for people getting their full license. It's

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Speaker 15: designed to send a really clear message that you shouldn't

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Speaker 15: be having any traffic infringements, you know, if you're on

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Speaker 15: your learner or you're restricted, and so it's designed to

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Speaker 15: send a message and make it really clear that we

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Speaker 15: want you to have full compliance with the law. Learn

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Speaker 15: how to drive properly, don't drink and drive, don't have

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Speaker 15: traffic traffic infringements, and you know once you've once you've

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Speaker 15: done that, you're good to go.

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Speaker 2: Now, the nj TA is going to look at introducing

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Speaker 2: a hazard perception test. What does that mean?

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Speaker 15: So when you do your full license, one of the

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Speaker 15: things that they test you on and your second practical

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Speaker 15: is hazards. And so if you obviously by getting rid

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Speaker 15: of the second test, the practical test, that would get

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Speaker 15: you essentially put potentially fall out of the system. And

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Speaker 15: so it's about basically about transferring that into your first

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Speaker 15: practical test to make sure you're taken to a cat

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Speaker 15: your hazards is that you know how I mean, you

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Speaker 15: probably don't know, Mike, because you've still got your license,

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Speaker 15: but you know, and you go with your instructor out

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Speaker 15: and they say, now point out all the hazards on

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Speaker 15: the road. And you've got your cyclist and your school

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Speaker 15: curtain and part car and the guy reversing that way,

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Speaker 15: and you know all that sort of stuff. That's what

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Speaker 15: it has a perception really imprint.

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Speaker 2: All right, go, well, appreciate it. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: what's the timefime and all this we're consulting now.

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Speaker 15: We want to make decisions by the end of the year,

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Speaker 15: but it won't take efeat until next year. We've got

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Speaker 15: to we've got to get the details right on the stuff.

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Speaker 15: It's too important not to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate time. Christmas Transport Minister with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: It is ten minutes past seven. Passing another backdown from

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Speaker 2: Trump Landers Richard told us earlier on as he blinks again,

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Speaker 2: this time over tech laptop, smartphones, memory chips, they're now excluded.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: The significance here is that's twenty percent of Chinese business

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Speaker 2: into America. Of course, commentator Bill Bennett is with us

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Speaker 2: this Monday morning. Bill, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: That presumably means there aren't millions of Americans with tiny

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Speaker 2: little screwdrivers looking to screw in tiny little screws anymore.

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Speaker 2: So they saved them getting employed in Idaho and Indiana

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Speaker 2: and all the other places. What do you make of

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Speaker 2: this whole thing?

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Speaker 14: Oh, it's a complete mess, and it's it's it's confusing,

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Speaker 14: and it's what. The one thing that is actually doing

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Speaker 14: for companies that are in the business is that it's

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Speaker 14: not giving them certainty. And if you ever speak to

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Speaker 14: any people in business doing these things, you know the

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Speaker 14: one thing they're looking for is certainty. And like I said,

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Speaker 14: that's success what they're not getting. But the whole idea

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Speaker 14: that you can build iPhones in the US, it's a fantasy.

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Speaker 14: It's crazy. You mean, the point about people's tiny screwdrivers,

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Speaker 14: it's true, and are there are hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 14: people people doing that in China. But behind the people

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Speaker 14: that are on the front line assembling things like iPhones

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Speaker 14: and laptops and so on, there are very qualified, very

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Speaker 14: skilled manufacturing engineers and there are lots of them. There's

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Speaker 14: probably thirty thousand of those people in Shenzen alone, just

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Speaker 14: one city in China, and there's probably not maybe two

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Speaker 14: thousands in all of the USA. And those people have

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Speaker 14: three or four year degrees, They go away to college,

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Speaker 14: they learn that stuff. Then they need to get experience

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Speaker 14: and on just just getting those people in place, unless

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Speaker 14: you unless you bring them all in from China, which

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Speaker 14: of course is the last thing mister Trump wants to do.

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Speaker 14: Unless you do that, America is going to take sort

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Speaker 14: of seven or eight years just to get those people

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Speaker 14: in place, let alone anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if it's worth

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Speaker 2: talking to you, because you and I you know, you're

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Speaker 2: a bright guy, and we get it. But what, given

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Speaker 2: what you've just explained, and given how obvious that is,

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Speaker 2: what's driving the thinking behind on shoring that's never going

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Speaker 2: to happen.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's what when things went the other way, jobs

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Speaker 14: were lost, that's that's the shore. I mean, the factories

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Speaker 14: closed and the jobs moved to China and Mexico and

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Speaker 14: India and Vietnam and so on from the USA. But

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Speaker 14: the thing, but like I just said that, it's not

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Speaker 14: something it's not a reversible ning. It's not something you

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Speaker 14: can bring back.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly precisely. Bill appreciate it very much. Bill Bennett,

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Speaker 2: Tech commentator. Be interesting to see what the markets do

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Speaker 2: this week because of the team in has passed seven

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Speaker 2: post driver testing is the worst idea, quies the terrible

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Speaker 2: drivers and everything more. We need more rigorous testing. But

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Speaker 2: the problem is, here's the real problem with driver testing

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Speaker 2: in this country is there's nothing wrong at the beginning,

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Speaker 2: because you're very conscientious and you start off meaning to

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Speaker 2: do the right thing. It's the fact that you're never

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Speaker 2: tested again. So at the age of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, you get your test and

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Speaker 2: thirty forty fifty years later you haven't been tested again.

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Speaker 2: And that's where the habits form. A defensive driving course,

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Speaker 2: Mike will tidy things up, That's true. I've always advocated

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Speaker 2: for a compulsory defensive driving course, and once you've done

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Speaker 2: that and learn how to break and steer through trouble

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Speaker 2: and all those sort of things, you are a vastly

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Speaker 2: superior driver. But they don't seem to favor that thinking

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Speaker 2: in this country. Unfortunately, thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The high asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: And I always thought this tremendous amount of emphasis on

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Speaker 2: the theories, And I mean, how fast can you go

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Speaker 2: when you're towing a trailer and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's not nearly as important as can you actually drive

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Speaker 2: the car? For goodness sake. Now it's sixteen past seven

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Speaker 2: prime in the studio. By the way, shortly they've gotten more.

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Speaker 2: We've got our annual Trust and Media survey showing we

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Speaker 2: might have reached a bit of a bottom trust fill

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Speaker 2: one percent or only one percent to thirty two percent,

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Speaker 2: still a low number. Of course, forty five percent of

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Speaker 2: percent we trust the news we choose that numbers stable.

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Speaker 2: The report co author has Greg Treadwillers. Well, there's Greg,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 5: Good morning mom.

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Speaker 2: How do we compare internationally? Where are we at?

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Speaker 5: Well, we started, when we started doing this research in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty, we were well above a sort of group

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Speaker 5: of comparable countries, if you like. But our trust and

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Speaker 5: news has been falling much faster than other countries, and

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Speaker 5: now we're way down the bottom with countries like the

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Speaker 5: UK and the US.

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Speaker 2: Does the one percent feel like the bottom.

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Speaker 5: Oh look, camp be sure, Camp be sure, but it's

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Speaker 5: very encouraging that things appear to be stabilizing. That's about

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Speaker 5: as far as we can go at the moment. But

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Speaker 5: there's certainly some big lifts in individual brand trust. So

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Speaker 5: for example, ZEDB has climbed remarkably and in trust also

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Speaker 5: have other New Zealand brands. Look, there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: things that contribute to the why, and I think one

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Speaker 5: of them is the distance now between us and that

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Speaker 5: very fractious time when we're much closer to the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you think it naturally recovers. The further away

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Speaker 2: from COVID we get, the more trust will build by osmosis,

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 5: Is one of the factors. But I still think and

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Speaker 5: my colleague Media Mulilanti, who leads this project, we both

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Speaker 5: think that the news industry itself has responded positively that

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Speaker 5: it still has some stuff that can do to rebuild trust.

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Speaker 5: And one of the most important things that our respondents

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Speaker 5: told us that that would rebuild trust is transparency. Transparency

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Speaker 5: from news organizations.

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Speaker 2: Do you trust your numbers to the extent that by

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Speaker 2: the time so you get one of the players who

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Speaker 2: we I think it was sixty percent TV and Z

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Speaker 2: or something like that, dipped in six out of ten

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Speaker 2: dip into TV in s once a week. Do they

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Speaker 2: dip into TV and Z enough to form a view

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Speaker 2: on trust or can you dip in for three minutes

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Speaker 2: and go now don't trust them? And that's an acceptable number,

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Speaker 2: and that's in the survey.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, that's a very good question. What we ask

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Speaker 5: our respondents is only to rate news organizations that they know.

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Speaker 5: So if they don't know, for example, the small the

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Speaker 5: relatively small south islder news organization called tructs, then we're

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Speaker 5: not interested in whether they trust them or not. So

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Speaker 5: all we can do is absolutely the only thing we

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Speaker 5: can do is ask our respondents to rank those new

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Speaker 5: organizations they know. It's very hard to judge how well

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Speaker 5: they know them, but if they feel they know them,

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Speaker 5: then we're interested.

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Speaker 2: Because the one of the most trustworthy organizations is the ODT.

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Speaker 2: And yet of your thousand people, I would imagine very

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Speaker 2: few know anything of the ODT. So you're asking a

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Speaker 2: very small number of people who may know the ODT

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Speaker 2: to rank it. Therefore, is that legit?

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess all methodologies have their nuances. This Our

850
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Speaker 5: methodology is mirrors the University of Oxford's Reutter's Institute surveys

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Speaker 5: that come out every year in a very large report

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Speaker 5: called the Digital News Report. We take the trust section

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Speaker 5: of that and mirror that New Zealand, so we have

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Speaker 5: international comparisons. We don't have any doubts about the methodology.

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Speaker 5: But what you say, there are smaller numbers of ODT

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Speaker 5: readers than the Herald or z B listeners. Absolutely, but

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Speaker 5: it is averaged out of the proportional thing of the Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so we do know that the ODT is trusted. We

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Speaker 5: think largely because it's so local. You know, you go

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Speaker 5: to Tonedan, you go to the rugby game, there's the

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Speaker 5: ODT across the top of the stadium. I saw it

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Speaker 5: on another big public facility. That there's a very strong

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Speaker 5: sense of identification in the target with local things because

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Speaker 5: they help differentiate your identity as an a targetism.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting in and all of itself, because that's called

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Speaker 2: branding and marketing, isn't it, Which is not really about trust.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, have you brought enough advertising? Everyone heard

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Speaker 2: he tell you? Yeah, I saw that. See your Mike

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Speaker 2: Mike, your Bill, Bill drew all the airbrush with makeup on

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Speaker 2: John not True seven twenty three. Now listen to my

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Speaker 2: ongoing advice and to the government is don't make big

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Speaker 2: announcements on Friday. So I watched the Prime Minister from

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Speaker 2: the way Kato on Friday at the Ruakura super Hub. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is what the government lives for. Of course, this stuff,

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Speaker 2: it's what they dream of, it's what they preach at

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Speaker 2: this Hooper Hub, which by the way, is one of

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Speaker 2: the great visions for this country services forty five percent

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Speaker 2: of the population, fifty five percent of GDP. It's part

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Speaker 2: of what they call the Golden Triangle when it comes

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Speaker 2: to business. Hamilton Tower on at Auckland anyway, at the

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Speaker 2: press conference there's a rep from the company Brookfields with

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Speaker 2: trillion dollars in assets under management, the local tribe Taianui,

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Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister too, who Morgan is from the tribe,

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Speaker 2: who had another life, of course, became famous for a

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Speaker 2: spent of taxpayer funded underwear in his current life spoke

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Speaker 2: very eloquently about what the super hub means, how big

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Speaker 2: it is, how massive the vision is, how transformational it

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Speaker 2: all could be. So not just amiss for the government

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Speaker 2: in terms of coverage for exactly what this country needs, vision,

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Speaker 2: risk taking and growth, but also the chance for us

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Speaker 2: to see a part of the so called Maori economy

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Speaker 2: that we don't often see. See Taynui are a wonderful,

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Speaker 2: wonderful success. The sadness for me is I don't actually

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Speaker 2: see them as Maori per se. I see them as

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Speaker 2: a business, and a good one. Race should not be

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Speaker 2: part of business. Performance is the key to business, not race.

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Speaker 2: But there is no denying their money came out of

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Speaker 2: the treaty settlement process and they've taken it and they've

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Speaker 2: run with it. And not only don't forget to see

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Speaker 2: the successful side of the Mari economy, we don't ask

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Speaker 2: often enough how is it you can have that much

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Speaker 2: success and yet still have so much Mari deprivation? That's

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Speaker 2: the news. We do hear a lot about poverty, addiction, violence,

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Speaker 2: health issue it's all bad news. Why if maur can

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Speaker 2: do well, why we're so obsessed with why they aren't.

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Speaker 2: And if there is a way out for those who

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Speaker 2: need it, and Murray have provided the blueprint, why is

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Speaker 2: it still an issue? Maria held back? We are told,

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Speaker 2: are they? Why haven't tayy who even held back? Or naitahu?

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Speaker 2: And if you listen to the Willie Jackson's he'll tell

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Speaker 2: you colonialism has ruined the Mai dream. I didn't see

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Speaker 2: that on Friday, quite the opposite. Pasking clondness for about

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Speaker 2: that moment, Mike, I had the pleasure of a longer

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Speaker 2: commute to work today Upper hut to Patoni State Highway

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Speaker 2: to down to one lane southbound whilst work has been

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Speaker 2: done on an old sewer line under the motorway. You'll

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Speaker 2: be pleased to note I estimated upwards of a thousand

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Speaker 2: road cones in place, yet not a single man at

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Speaker 2: work to be seen. How surprising, Mark, You've got your

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Speaker 2: hot line ring the hot line. There's a hot line

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Speaker 2: even up and running. Now let me ask you another question.

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Speaker 2: This came out of my reading over the weekend. Air

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Speaker 2: Chathams might well pull the Fakatani route. So air Chathams

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Speaker 2: needs support from the district council as well as the community.

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Speaker 2: They're going to continue providing flights in the region. So

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Speaker 2: the company is considering with drawing from the fuck Attorney

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Speaker 2: to Auckland air route in the next six to twelve months.

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Speaker 2: Since April of twenty three, they've lost They claim over

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Speaker 2: a million dollars on the route. So part of the

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Speaker 2: problem is business travelers made up more than fifty percent

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Speaker 2: of the passenger travel. They at the time retired the

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Speaker 2: eighteen seat metro liners and they stuck in the thirty

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Speaker 2: four seat SAP. Now they share it and this is

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Speaker 2: as far as I can work out, this is the problem.

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Speaker 2: They share that with the Kapiti Coast Air service, so

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Speaker 2: it couldn't provide the flights needed to cater for the

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Speaker 2: business market. So that part I'm not quite sure of.

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Speaker 2: Why can't they And if there is a market there,

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Speaker 2: why don't they get a plane in there to service

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Speaker 2: that market. So that included early morning, late afternoon Fuckatanney

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Speaker 2: to Auckland people who pop up and pop back. We

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Speaker 2: can't make this route work if we don't cater to

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Speaker 2: the business traffic. So they know the problem, they've got

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Speaker 2: the demand, they can't seem to fix it, so they've

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Speaker 2: engaged the council. Now question number one for you, should

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Speaker 2: the council be responsible for funding air services? More important too,

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Speaker 2: if their News Zealand was announcing this this morning, would

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Speaker 2: you be going nuts? Would you be apoplectic? That's typical

954
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Speaker 2: of the in New Zealand. They're just gouging the provinces,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. So when Near New Zealand pulled the air

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Speaker 2: Chathams went in. If both airlines can't make it work,

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Speaker 2: have we concluded? The simple truth is there are certain

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Speaker 2: parts of this country we simply can't link by air

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Speaker 2: and that is the price we pay for being a

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Speaker 2: very small nation. News is next, and then the PM

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the Mike

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be twenty three minutes away from eight Commentary

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Speaker 2: Box after right, of course, being a Monday morning meantime,

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is with us. Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: With you now, Rughura, I watched you live as is

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Speaker 2: my want on a Friday afternoon, beaming out next to

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Speaker 2: Toku and Co. You've got to stop making announcements on

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Speaker 2: Friday because you're missing because this is what you guys

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Speaker 2: look for, isn't it. It's about growth, investment, success, billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars what could be? And there you were, you know,

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Speaker 2: wasting your time on a Friday. So that now I

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Speaker 2: work Fridays though now I know but the media types

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Speaker 2: may not. But when I am working, the rest of

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Speaker 2: the country don't. But but but let me ask you

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Speaker 2: several questions about it. One, how big do you think

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Speaker 2: it will be? Two? Why is it we don't hear

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Speaker 2: more about that side of the mari economy and only

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Speaker 2: the bad side of the Mario economy.

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Speaker 4: Well, both questions really good.

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Speaker 16: I Mean the first thing is that's exactly what I've

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Speaker 16: been talking to EMI leaders about now for probably the

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Speaker 16: last year. You know, we want to get on, get

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Speaker 16: money to evolved, get them cracking, get them investing exactly.

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Speaker 4: As they're doing there. That's a great story.

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Speaker 16: I mean, that's a billion dollars worth of investment coming

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Speaker 16: into the Waikuddo. That's a you know, there's a big

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Speaker 16: inland port there. They can able to expand out that

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Speaker 16: hub that they're building. That's forty five percent of the

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Speaker 16: population of New Zealand about fifty percent of the GDP

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Speaker 16: tied up that's going through that place, connecting told on

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Speaker 16: A Port with Auckland Port and all the other ancillary

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Speaker 16: bits that are happening as a result. So you know,

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Speaker 16: that's why I invited EWE to the Infrastructure summit because

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Speaker 16: they are good partners. They've built a lot of commercial

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Speaker 16: saviiness actually over the last thirty years post settlements, and

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Speaker 16: that's exactly what you want, is you want them actually

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Speaker 16: firing up and following the same going for growth plan

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Speaker 16: that we've got as a country happening with EWE as well.

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Speaker 16: So that is the opportunity for us to do that work.

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Speaker 16: But no, pretty exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to us? Then? Why is it you

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Speaker 2: look at Toku and Co and Naitahu their water resource

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Speaker 2: case and christ future side, successful parts of the Marria economy.

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Speaker 2: Where where's all the money gone? Why are there's so

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Speaker 2: many mari and deprivation, hunger and poverty and all the

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Speaker 2: other issues. Where where's it all gone?

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Speaker 17: Well?

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Speaker 16: Actually, that's the nature of the conversations that we've been

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Speaker 16: having is that you know, they're in the same position

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Speaker 16: that we are in as a country, as you need

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Speaker 16: the economy fired up. You need a bigger economic engine

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Speaker 16: so that you can deal with the issues that you've

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Speaker 16: got socially better public services, health, education, all that stuff,

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Speaker 16: housing and so some of our e we obviously are

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Speaker 16: pretty well resourced now they've grown their funds as even

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Speaker 16: and that's where was it Rokawa. I was meeting with

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Speaker 16: them last week in Ewee. They got fifty million dollar settlement.

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Speaker 16: Well they've turned that into two hundred and sixty million

1022
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Speaker 16: dollars in a pretty short period of time, and they

1023
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Speaker 16: are actually investing that money back in. But that's my

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Speaker 16: conversation with them as well as right, well, what more can.

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Speaker 4: We do to get our kids to school?

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Speaker 16: What are we doing to improve maths and reading across

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Speaker 16: the piace, What are we doing around health and vaccination outcomes?

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Speaker 16: And those the same conversations we're having at a country

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Speaker 16: level that we need to be having together the government

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Speaker 16: and EWI, And there's good alignment on those conversations frankly

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Speaker 16: behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: So I'm pretty excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the speaking which related the sea lord lost, what

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Speaker 2: are you going to do with them? Sorry? The sea lord?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that'll be a decision for Shane Jones

1036
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Speaker 4: to work through, or.

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Speaker 2: He claims off to the government. So it's Shane Jones government.

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Speaker 4: Well let's see, let's see. I I'm going to let him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so you can do one of two things.

1040
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Speaker 2: You're either going to write a check, You're going to appeal.

1041
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Speaker 2: So which is.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm not brief on that. I'll li

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Speaker 4: Shame deal with that first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, over what time frame? Is this pressing or is

1045
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Speaker 2: it you're just going to let it ride or it's

1046
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Speaker 2: a significant low. So I don't understand. Well, you know,

1047
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Speaker 2: you give allocation, they took you to court, you took

1048
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Speaker 2: it away with no compensation. You've lost, So you either

1049
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: think you've lost, you know, illegitimately, so you'll appeal, or

1050
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Speaker 2: you owe somebody some money.

1051
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Speaker 16: Yeah, in fairness, that decision will have to talk through

1052
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Speaker 16: as a cabinet. Shame will lead us through those conversations.

1053
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Speaker 16: We haven't had a chance to get us, Mike to

1054
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Speaker 16: talk that through yet.

1055
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Speaker 2: Okay, world leaders calls how many have we got anywhere?

1056
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Speaker 2: And is Winston Peters right and saying you're a bit hysterical?

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Speaker 16: I think actually I don't know where that's a real

1058
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Speaker 16: media beat up that story because actually, if you think

1059
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Speaker 16: about what he's actually saying, we're saying the same thing,

1060
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Speaker 16: which is that we've been pretty cool, calm and collected

1061
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Speaker 16: and responding to this thing. I think commentators would admit

1062
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Speaker 16: that my course to leaders are doing exactly the same thing.

1063
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Speaker 16: Where are you at, how are you responding? It's important

1064
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Speaker 16: everyone has cool heads. The second thing is a good

1065
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Speaker 16: conversations because it's like what more can we and should

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Speaker 16: we be doing in a bilateral sense. And the third

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Speaker 16: thing is that I'm making sure that the blocks like

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Speaker 16: the EU and the CPTPP and ACN, what we don't

1069
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Speaker 16: want them doing is tip for tat twists between each other.

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Speaker 16: You know, we want to make sure that they are

1071
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Speaker 16: affirming the rules operating within dispute mechanisms that we've got

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Speaker 16: in place.

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Speaker 4: We don't need the pressure going the.

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Speaker 16: Other way across the different blocks several and on the US,

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Speaker 16: I just say, look, we've got a positive constructive relationship

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Speaker 16: with the US.

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Speaker 4: And we'll continue to do so.

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Speaker 2: As far as the have you actually made any progroups

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Speaker 2: though sure of bringing these people up, has anything actually happened?

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Speaker 16: Well, what is happening is you have to think about

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Speaker 16: my conversations with Singapore, you know, the thought of right, well,

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Speaker 16: what more could Singapore and New Zealand be doing. We

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Speaker 16: have a work plan in place that the Prime Minister

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Speaker 16: and I've been promised to Wong and I've been working

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Speaker 16: through and we both made a commitment. Hey listen, we

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Speaker 16: should get our teams back together again post as election

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Speaker 16: and very quickly with the Australians work out what more

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Speaker 16: could the three countries actually be doing together? How could

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Speaker 16: we accelerate what we're doing. We want to move to

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Speaker 16: what's called a comprehensive strategic partnership. Those are the sort

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Speaker 16: of things that we can do.

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Speaker 2: More off See. One of the things that consumers about

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Speaker 2: you ring the EU is the EU free trade deal.

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Speaker 2: We've got to crap deal. It's nothing like the UK

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Speaker 2: deal or the UAE deal. Are you suddenly turning them

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Speaker 2: into free traders when they're not really free traders?

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Speaker 16: Well there's no I mean I saw media report suggesting

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Speaker 16: that the EU it would join CPTPP. They've got twenty

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Speaker 16: seven countries inside there with a range of views. That

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Speaker 16: would be an absolutely mother of a process to get

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Speaker 16: them to CPTPP.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you. But what I'm trying to avoid.

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Speaker 16: Is you've got CPTPP, which is fifteen percent of the

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Speaker 16: global economy. You've got the EU Trading Block, which is

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Speaker 16: another large percentage of the global economy. What you don't

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Speaker 16: want happening is countries within those two blocks actually landing

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Speaker 16: reciprocal tariffs on each other as well. In terms of

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Speaker 16: that's what I'm saying. We don't want trade wars, we

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Speaker 16: don't want tariffs. We don't think that's good.

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Speaker 4: And there are disputes.

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Speaker 16: Between different blocks and between countries within different blocks, and

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Speaker 16: so you've got to say, hang on, everybody, keep calm,

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Speaker 16: follow the rules. If you've got a dispute, don't go

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Speaker 16: off and level a tariff against another country and another

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Speaker 16: block or a block between a block.

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Speaker 4: And so that's the nature of that complet Just.

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Speaker 2: For the record, so Peters wasn't referring to you, you

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Speaker 2: would argue he was referring to general global real because.

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Speaker 16: And that's what I'm saying, I don't sort of understand

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Speaker 16: why the media is beating this thing up because.

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Speaker 2: The person that's what the media does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the bottom line is, you know, that's.

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Speaker 2: Why the trust levels at thirty two percent.

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Speaker 16: Well you can say that. I wouldn't possibly comment like

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Speaker 16: your industries are popularity, But I just say, you know,

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Speaker 16: we as a cabin had a good conversation about this

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Speaker 16: right from the get go. Stay calm, stay core about it.

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Speaker 16: Let's work our way through it very, very reasonably maturely.

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Speaker 16: We're doing that.

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Speaker 4: Obviously.

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Speaker 16: Winston's involved, I'm involved, Nicholas involved, you know, Todd McClay,

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Speaker 16: even Judas involved, and the five of us, I think

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Speaker 16: you know, are all being pretty consistent, calm, keep constructive

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Speaker 16: and positive with the US advanced by lateral relationships where

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Speaker 16: we can. That's the work I've been doing for the

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Speaker 16: last sixteen months. This is the reason I've been out

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Speaker 16: in the world trying to do this sort of thing.

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Speaker 16: That's why we've been to Vietnam and UAE, and you know,

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Speaker 16: we're going to the UK and.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the UK. I'll talk about the UK

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Speaker 2: in a moment. As far as the Chinese is concerned,

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Speaker 2: they reached out to Australia last week and said let's join.

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Speaker 16: Did they reach out to US as well or not?

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Speaker 16: Not that I'm aware of. But I just say, you know,

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Speaker 16: we have an independent foreign policy to New Zealand's national interests.

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Speaker 2: Of course, but could they did suggest somebody suggested they

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00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: could be part of the CPTPP. Is that possible? Is

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00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: it more possible now than it was previously?

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Speaker 16: Well, I don't think anything changes with the CPTPP in

1150
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 16: the sense of that China has applied for membership of

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Speaker 16: the CPTPP, as have a number of other countries.

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Speaker 4: We have what are called the Auckland principles. So you've

1153
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: actually got to say, are you a good free trader?

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00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: Have you upheld laws?

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Speaker 16: Do you have consensus from all the other members to

1156
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Speaker 16: come into the agreement?

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Speaker 2: Well they fail on all that, don't they.

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Speaker 16: Well, well, let's see, but there'll be a number of

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Speaker 16: countries that we have to assess through that sort of lens,

1160
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Speaker 16: because you actually want people who are genuinely committed to

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Speaker 16: free trade and are going to be good traders in

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Speaker 16: that system. So it's not to say that China would

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Speaker 16: or wouldn't be, But the point is there is a

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Speaker 16: process and you have to have that criteria otherwise you sort.

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Speaker 4: Of undermine what we've done.

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Speaker 2: The nine billion. I don't think I've asked you this

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Speaker 2: since God announced the nine billion, the new money for defense.

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Speaker 4: The incremental new money for the next four years.

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Speaker 2: What magic are you pulling out of a hat in

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Speaker 2: the budget to find that you're quite skeptical about our

1171
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: whole books and they don't look good. I don't know

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Speaker 2: where you're nine billioners.

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Speaker 16: No, look, it is within our fiscal track and all

1174
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Speaker 16: will be revealed. What it means is that we understand

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Speaker 16: what we've committed around delivering within our operating allowances.

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Speaker 4: That there's the next few budgets which we understand.

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Speaker 2: How far are you going down your track? How far

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Speaker 2: is you track? Is it a fifteen to twenty year track?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 16: What I just say to you, as we are on

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Speaker 16: track to manage that investment and that commitment with the settings.

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Speaker 2: In a way. You know you're going to have to

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Speaker 2: come here on the Monday afternoon and you're going to

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Speaker 2: go You know that's brilliant.

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Speaker 4: You've actually wanted to do all of that defense spending.

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Speaker 2: You've got your financially God unless you and I hope

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00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: you can and the decision is a good one. But

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Speaker 2: I just don't know where the nine billions coming from.

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Speaker 16: It's assured we think we can manage it within our

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Speaker 16: fiscal settings. That We've got the second thing as each

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Speaker 16: of those business cases come before the Cabinet to make

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Speaker 16: sure that we're getting good value from them, and we

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Speaker 16: have a formal two year review because frankly, if the

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Speaker 16: economy gets better, I want to be able to tip

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Speaker 16: more money into to defense over time. The cool thing

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Speaker 16: about that, Mike, there's actually some amazing New Zealand companies

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Speaker 16: doing some incredible defense.

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Speaker 2: That was the news that came out of it for me.

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Speaker 16: I didn't realize And there's actually a fledgling defense industry

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Speaker 16: and it's amazing. We've got companies here providing the Brits

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Speaker 16: with kit and equipment that they should have been providing

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Speaker 16: with us as well. So it's a good economic thing

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Speaker 16: as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Britain, Why what tangibly? I mean, it's always good

1206
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: to go to Britain. Who doesn't like going there? But

1207
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Speaker 2: what tangible is going to come out?

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Speaker 16: Yeah? Really, Britain is really a couple of things. One

1209
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Speaker 16: is to first and foremost see the King, which was

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Speaker 16: due to happen last year but it didn't obviously with

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Speaker 16: his health issues. Secondly, to spend time with Kiir Starmer

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Speaker 16: will actually have a good lack of time together to

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Speaker 16: go through and first of all, we're going to go

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Speaker 16: actually see our troops in the south of England that

1215
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Speaker 16: are working with the Brits training Ukrainian soldiers. Then we'll

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Speaker 16: have our formal ten Downing Street Bilateral, which is a

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Speaker 16: chance to talk about some of the economic stuff but

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Speaker 16: also the security stuff that's happening in the region but

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Speaker 16: also around the world, and how more we can collaborate

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Speaker 16: the Brits. You know, we're a long way away from

1221
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Speaker 16: each other, but the good historical partners of ours and

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 16: we want to keep reinventing that.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news is I'm not taking a holiday,

1225
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Speaker 2: so I'll be here next week so you can ring

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00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: me it am you said, did I dial in? You did?

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Speaker 2: You were in India? I said, you can dial in

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00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: from England next week. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Next week? You'll be there.

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Speaker 16: I'll be out on the weekend and in England and

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Speaker 16: then down to Gallipoli for one hundred and tenth annivers

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Speaker 16: which will be pretty special.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk next week. Appreciate it, nice to

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 2: Mike, does the PM realized China's on the opposite side

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Speaker 2: of US are playing munitions to Russia. We're actually at

1242
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Speaker 2: war via a third party. I mean, look, if you,

1243
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Speaker 2: as I've said a million times on this program, if

1244
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: you looked at each individual country and said here are

1245
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: the things I don't quite like about the way you

1246
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: operate globally, we'd literally trade with nobody. It's not how

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: the world works. It's just interesting that this particular point

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Speaker 2: in time, if China did join the CPTPP, that would

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: stick it right up America in a major way. Not

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00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: that that's going to happen, because I remember asking the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister previously that the qualification for the Chinese to

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Speaker 2: join the CPTPP they wouldn't pass. So it's an interesting business.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, when you look at the size of

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Speaker 2: Europe and you look at the size of China, what

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Speaker 2: he was trying to point out, I think is that

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Speaker 2: you know, we're not solely reliant on the Americans to

1257
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Speaker 2: do business. Mike, if anyone understands the world situation Luxon does,

1258
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: he projects a calm, carry on mentality and just keep

1259
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Speaker 2: doing what any competent, knowledgeable world leader would do for

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Speaker 2: this country. The media needs to calm the farm and

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Speaker 2: stop desperately looking for division and the coalition. I think

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Speaker 2: there's probably something in that, there's no shortage of commentary

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Speaker 2: if you're reading it in the last couple of days,

1264
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Speaker 2: that suggests that this actually might be the crisis that

1265
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Speaker 2: makes or is the making of Luxem because it's the

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Speaker 2: ideal crisis for a person who comes from business, because

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Speaker 2: if he has a strength, it is the business world,

1268
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: and trade is business, and business is trade. So it

1269
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: might well in some way, shape or form, be the

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Speaker 2: making of them. Ate away from it.

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Speaker 1: The mic casking breakfast with the range Rover Villa news

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Speaker 1: togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Lauding Mike hah gone up and watched the f one

1274
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Speaker 2: law some results squarely on him. Errors in qualifying, plus

1275
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Speaker 2: his erarors in the race. He would have had an

1276
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Speaker 2: okay result from a bad start, would have given him

1277
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Speaker 2: confidence and a little bit of redemption. Now the heat'spin on.

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Speaker 2: He only turned up a notch. A couple of quick

1279
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Speaker 2: things on that. When you say errors and qualifying, that

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Speaker 2: wasn't you realize it wasn't him. It was his car

1281
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Speaker 2: the DRS, which is a little flap in the wing

1282
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Speaker 2: at the back of the car on certain parts of

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Speaker 2: the track opens up you get extra speed during qualified

1284
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Speaker 2: they that broke, so he lost the speed. He didn't

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Speaker 2: qualify as well as he could have should have, So

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Speaker 2: that wasn't on him. It was on the car. As

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Speaker 2: regards the two point well, the second he got ten

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Speaker 2: or fifteen seconds, whatever it was in the end, that

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Speaker 2: was on him in the sense that you had to

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Speaker 2: be desperate in terms of overtakes, very hard to overtake

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Speaker 2: on the track, and therefore he gave it. Nothing ventured,

1292
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Speaker 2: nothing lost, was his basics. So I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: And if I was him, i'd be a down at

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Speaker 2: the moment. I mean, if he didn't have bad luck,

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Speaker 2: he'd have no luck at all. So it's got a

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Speaker 2: little bit of that about it. So he did in terms,

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Speaker 2: if you want to take glass half full, he ended

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Speaker 2: up take the penalties out. He ended up from where

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Speaker 2: he started, and that's always encouraging Red Bull generally, and

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Speaker 2: that's the two Red Bull cars as well as the

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Speaker 2: Racing Bull cars. They all had a reasonably unsatisfactory day.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that he's going to get singled

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Speaker 2: out for any particular attention, but you're right he does

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Speaker 2: need to and this next weekend will be the next

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Speaker 2: opportunity he's got in Saudi Arabia. He needs to actually one,

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Speaker 2: do well, qualify well and potentially fingers crossed to get

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Speaker 2: a few points. Anyway, more on that with the lads

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Speaker 2: in the commentary box after the news, which is next

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Speaker 2: Fearite News Talks, d.

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Speaker 1: B setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the

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Speaker 1: mic hosting Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 1: News Talks, head b, fl Time and sky Stadium.

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Speaker 18: The Crusaders hung on with thirteen men whens.

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Speaker 7: Angus may be blows full time before a Tizan home.

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Speaker 18: There record It's perfect but knocked off the top of

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Speaker 18: the table Chiefs.

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Speaker 12: The Blues win the Battle for Auckland thirty six seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And the Highlandness forty three. Fiji and drew in twenty

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Speaker 2: and the heartened and will get a lot of confidence

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Speaker 2: from that match. The Check of Flaggers.

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Speaker 18: He Oscar Piastree wins the fair Rain Grand Prix and

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Speaker 18: kiss McLaren their first ever victory here in the Kingdom

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Speaker 18: of Bahrain.

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Speaker 2: And overall a poor day for the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: But Craig Hillamy, you can afford this smile if you

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 11: The Melbourne Storm forty two fourteen and.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand has run every millimeter of this drive by

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Speaker 2: young man Pain who wins the Jason Richard's Trophy.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on Mike Hosking breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for over

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Speaker 1: fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he passed. I think that was my high light

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Speaker 2: of the weekend. Actually, Matt Payne Andrews s helvels with

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Speaker 2: us long as Jason Pine fellows. Good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Sam. What's Berlin not being there?

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Speaker 5: Mean?

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Speaker 2: Is this a big deal or not?

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Speaker 18: Really it is a big deal. Look, he's a fantastic sailor, Mike,

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Speaker 18: and obviously he's had a lot of success in the

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Speaker 18: America's Cup. My understanding is around that, listening to a

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Speaker 18: few voices around the traps, is that it's money. Clearly

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Speaker 18: Team and Z weren't willing to pay what Peter Berling wanted.

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Speaker 18: He's a professional sailor, understand that supply and demand. Can

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Speaker 18: he go elsewhere. Know he can't because the nationality rules.

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Speaker 18: Well he can't go on to another boat, yep, but

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Speaker 18: he can assist other teams. And the other point that

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Speaker 18: I'm hearing is that he is fearful for the lack

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Speaker 18: of competition in the next America's Cup because just don't

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Speaker 18: know who's going to turn up, and he Ofs is gone.

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Speaker 18: Will the Americans turn up, Will the Ainsley and the

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Speaker 18: Brits get another challenger? He That is one of the

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Speaker 18: reasons why that I'm hearing is the way Berling has gone.

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Speaker 18: And also he's got a lot on his plate. And

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Speaker 18: I suppose the America's Cup just takes a vaccine.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, isn't it? So who replaces him? Jason? We've got

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Speaker 2: any clues and doesn't need to be a name that

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Speaker 2: we know or I mean there's the I mean, sailing

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Speaker 2: must be stacked.

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Speaker 11: With telling Well, I guess so, I guess it does

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Speaker 11: need to be a name. You can't just put anybody

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Speaker 11: in there. Nathan Outra just a guy they're talking about.

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Speaker 11: I'm not sure what Blair Chuke's situation is. He seems

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Speaker 11: to be inextricably tied to Peter Burling, doesn't they haven't

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Speaker 11: heard much about what Blair Chuke plans from here. Look, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I think Sam's right. There's a lot on Peter Berling's plate.

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Speaker 11: He's clearly invigorated by sale GP, which is very competitive,

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Speaker 11: ultra competitive, although they've had to cancel the Brazilian event

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Speaker 11: to get the boats right. But I just think he's

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Speaker 11: he's maybe, I don't know, moved on from the America's Cup.

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Speaker 11: Hees one is it three times?

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Speaker 18: Maybe there's a lot more certain around sale GP. Apart

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Speaker 18: from that next canceled race. Mic and Bleed Cheo Competter

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Speaker 18: Burling run their own team so they have more control.

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Speaker 18: I'd heard as well that those guys run about a

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Speaker 18: third of what other America's Cup sailors are and other teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the probably the problem with the money though is,

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Speaker 2: as you point out, it's not like they're going to

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Speaker 2: the other teams for the money because they can't. So

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Speaker 2: he's gone from whatever he was on to zero, which

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Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as a big upgrade.

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Speaker 18: Obviously, Dugger's claws the Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't think he's he's singing for his supper, Mike.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he's all right. Did either of you

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Speaker 2: watch Taalpo.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I saw Matthew Payne win on Saturday and

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Speaker 18: little bits of use today.

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Speaker 2: Mike, he he.

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Speaker 18: I remember doing a young on them years ago when

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Speaker 18: he won a poorsch scholarship and there were huge wraps

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Speaker 18: on him around then and just watched them over the

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Speaker 18: last few years and supercars taking time to bed in.

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Speaker 2: But he's one heck of a he's fast. He was

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Speaker 2: what he did in the media. He's in his third season.

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Speaker 2: What he did immediately is a good qualifier. He's got

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Speaker 2: good pace on one lap when he gets into the

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Speaker 2: you know, the top ten shootouts that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But but but what you saw at the weekend was

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Speaker 2: a champion driver. And so for a guy who's still

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Speaker 2: very very young, he's done fantastically well. But what I

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Speaker 2: like Jason was, apart from anything else, Taupo looked magnificent

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Speaker 2: being beamed out to the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't it?

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Speaker 11: Just and to know we're probably almost certainly going to

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Speaker 11: have another one next year down in Poona, you know,

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Speaker 11: two two New Zealand legs. And I really like matt

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Speaker 11: Pain as well. He just seems so unaffected by it all,

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Speaker 11: which yes, I think is the hallmark of all the

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Speaker 11: great drivers. He got out and he looked like his

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Speaker 11: heart rate hadn't gone much above resting, So yeah. And

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Speaker 11: the Jason Richards Memorial Trophy to special having a key

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Speaker 11: with winning that joins Van Gisberg and McLoughlin and winning that,

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Speaker 11: so yeah.

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Speaker 18: Matt Painte looked like look like good racing, look like good,

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Speaker 18: good type racing. A few you know, door handles being bumped,

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Speaker 18: and the crowd looks fantastic. The amount of money that

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Speaker 18: must drag into the area, it'd.

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Speaker 2: Be boom times. I mean, you know we've all been

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Speaker 2: to Taupo many times and it's like that place was jammed. Now,

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Speaker 2: Laws and Sam how long before? I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: he had his DRS and I know it was a

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Speaker 2: bit technical, and I know he ran into a couple

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Speaker 2: of cars and he got some time penalties and stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. But Gez, he really now needs to start

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Speaker 2: to do something this coming weekend, doesn't he.

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Speaker 18: It seems every weekend there seems to be a new

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Speaker 18: issue or a different issue. So next weekend, I think

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Speaker 18: this is what's two or three of three races in

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Speaker 18: a row?

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Speaker 10: It is it.

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Speaker 18: Probably needs to be points or else, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: It needs to he needs to qualify. Well, the thing is,

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Speaker 2: people still fascinate themselves about Tonoda Sonoda's not the thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it'd be nice to beat Snoda. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is hadj Hadja is seemingly a better driver

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: and unless he can turn that around and beat his

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Speaker 2: teammate consistently, that's that's where the that's where the trouble strikes.

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Speaker 2: So he's going to beat him on the track.

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Speaker 11: He beat him on the track this morning, didn't he

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Speaker 11: does There's some penalties that that cost them do We

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 11: just have to have to accept, Mike that this is

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01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 11: Liam Lawson in his first Formula One season, that we

1443
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 11: are going to have finishers and the teams that that

1444
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 11: points are going to be very hard to come by.

1445
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Speaker 11: In fact, maybe he won't get many at all.

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Speaker 2: Well know, that's a very good point, Jason, because they

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01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't because Racing Balls are a midfield team. On their

1448
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Speaker 2: very best day, they may get a point or two.

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01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: They may well do, and that's what midfield teams do.

1450
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: But not everybody started in the number two Carra and

1451
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 2: Red Bull at the beginning of the season. So that's

1452
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: where we sort of marked it all unfortunately from the

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01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: start anyway more in a moment, Jason Pine Andrew Sabil

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Speaker 2: thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, carlet By News.

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Speaker 2: Talksp News Talks, sixteen past eight, the Monday Morning Commentary

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,480
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Speaker 2: Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for over fifty years. Some

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Speaker 2: plan and Andrew Sevil, what was your highlight Rugby wife.

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Speaker 18: Sav Probably the Crusaders hanging on against the Canes. I

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Speaker 18: don't know how the Canes lost that down to thirteen

1462
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 18: or the Crusaders were down to thirteen men and Wellington.

1463
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 18: I just assumed the Canes would score and it go

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Speaker 18: to extra time. So I thought that the Crusader's plenty

1465
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 18: of great thought. Scott Barrett played really well, Boden Barrett

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Speaker 18: played well for the Blues against Mowana, and I really

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Speaker 18: enjoyed the women's final too, Actually, very very tight game,

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 18: dramatic in the end, red card and no it was

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Speaker 18: it was good all round.

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Speaker 2: You reckon anyone watched the women's game, hand On Hart.

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Speaker 18: Well, it didn't help the scheduling I just assumed the

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Speaker 18: final would be on in the afternoon because that's when

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Speaker 18: they played all their games. They're up against the Highlanders

1474
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 18: game and they're up against Auckland f C. Now I

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 18: watched a fair chunk of the FC game too. That

1476
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 18: was let me guess, that was an amazing game of football.

1477
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Speaker 2: Was it a drawer?

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 18: It doesn't matter, Mite. They were too kneel down and

1479
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 18: they fought back to draw two. All they probably should

1480
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 18: have won, Jason, shouldn't they in the end A couple of.

1481
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Speaker 11: The years I think they had the chances to when

1482
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 11: Steve Kurker said that, yes, another draw, that's five and six.

1483
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 11: Now it's almost becoming Yeah, more of it, not the

1484
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 11: exception the rule. Look, there's still four points ahead. There

1485
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 11: are three games to go. Yeah, and the difference your

1486
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 11: rights have. The difference with this one and the other

1487
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 11: draws they've had is that they were too nil down

1488
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 11: and fought back to get a point.

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Speaker 18: And yeah, I thought it was a great watch because

1490
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 18: both teams were out on their feet. It was obviously

1491
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 18: warm and Sydney, and I think Sydney, you see, Jason

1492
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 18: had been away to the Asian thing of both teams

1493
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 18: were bagger there was it was in to end football mic.

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Speaker 18: Really you need to.

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Speaker 2: That's probably what you're saying, isn't it? Were you happy?

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Speaker 12: What about the what? What about the Warriors? Look?

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Speaker 18: The only consolation was.

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: One second half, very successful second half and won the

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01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: second half? Was it six thresh them?

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Speaker 18: The only consolation? You know where I watched the game,

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 18: The only consolation. I watched the game at the Duke

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 18: of Marl Brooks.

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: No way in Russell, mm hmm, fantastic. What were you drinking?

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Speaker 2: What were they serving?

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Speaker 18: It's it's the it's it's one of the great pubs

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Speaker 18: of New Zealand.

1507
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: Right, How did you get how'd you get there? Where'd

1508
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: you come from?

1509
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 18: If I drove, I drive from Auckland.

1510
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 2: You drove from because it's that last part that round

1511
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: the beaz Operah. It said you get them, you get

1512
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: on at the opera.

1513
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 4: Or yeah, yeah, yep, yep.

1514
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: It's only it's it's that. But they need they need

1515
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: a four lane highway from Walkland. Once I've done to Hannah,

1516
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: they then need to add on the four lanes directly

1517
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: to Russell.

1518
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 18: Your face was in my mind yesterday as I drove

1519
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 18: from Warkworth after Walkworth.

1520
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: North, Yes, third world.

1521
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 5: Just it's I know.

1522
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 18: We've had this conversation a million times. Of God, it's

1523
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:50,959
Speaker 18: a goat track.

1524
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: It is.

1525
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 2: I mean even in your car.

1526
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 18: The Corolla hugged the corners, Mate, and so then you

1527
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 18: arrive in Russell and it's beautifully still reminds you of

1528
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 18: like of Acaroa, where I spend.

1529
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 5: A lot of time.

1530
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, very true. Actually it's a very good point.

1531
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 18: I get to walk in the doors of the Duke

1532
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 18: and sit down and leather arm chair and watch the game.

1533
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: And have you been sorry? Carry on, just I was

1534
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: just going to talk about the Warriors.

1535
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 5: Gay.

1536
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm loving this, the sort of gentle, sort

1537
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 11: of salt.

1538
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: Around old man talking.

1539
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 11: I don't think. I don't think I am in my

1540
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 11: lifetime going to see the Warriors beat the Storm. I've

1541
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 11: almost come to me.

1542
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I know, I think seven seventeen

1543
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 2: once you get to I was thinking about it before

1544
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 2: the game at sixteen, and I thought, at what number

1545
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: do you get to where you just go around going.

1546
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: I tell you what, when your dad played for the Warriors,

1547
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: they only lost to them eight times, and now it's

1548
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: up to ninety seven times. I don't think we'll ever

1549
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: beat them, Brian.

1550
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 18: But aren't they aren't they a superb sporting team. And

1551
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 18: then they just regenerate very much, player after player after

1552
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 18: player they find and they develop. I was watching a

1553
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 18: video the other day and I knew about this, but

1554
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 18: you know they make the players going it during the day, well,

1555
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 18: so they should waits in the morning, work during the day,

1556
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 18: train in the evening.

1557
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: That guy Pappenhausen in the Storm team, what a cool

1558
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: haircut have you seen him? And just absolutely beautiful and

1559
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 2: he just rounded it off beautifully with a mustache. What

1560
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: a looker.

1561
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 18: I mean, if you could grow you'r hair that long,

1562
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 18: would you get the chance.

1563
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: And then just bleach it out of it and get

1564
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: burn the sides up by the way, sef In Russell

1565
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: up the top of the hill there, there's been a

1566
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: house for sale for several years. And it's a big,

1567
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: beautiful American style house. Do you know the one? I mean,

1568
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: it's got unrivaled views, about three hundred and sixty degree

1569
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: views up there. It's got a pool.

1570
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 18: I'm looking at I'm looking at the window.

1571
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: It's got a spa, it's got a flag pole. He

1572
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: thought about buying it. I've been thinking. I've been thinking

1573
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 2: long and hard about buying it. It's been for sale

1574
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: for several years. They can't shift it. I reckon they're

1575
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: they're in for a bargain.

1576
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 12: Marta Marta winery. You been there?

1577
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: You have been to a Martin winery? Who hasn't? Are

1578
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: you at a Martin winery?

1579
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 4: Now?

1580
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: Is that where you picked out? Just waking up?

1581
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 17: Thank you?

1582
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Excuse me anyway, sorry about this, Jason. We've just completely

1583
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: lost the plug. You watching the golf by the way.

1584
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly what I've been doing while you guys

1585
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 11: have been chatting. Actually just watching Rory McElroy and Bryce

1586
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 11: and d Chambogo and McElroy had a horror start double

1587
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 11: bogie on his came right. Yeah, I think well, I mean,

1588
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 11: I hope he wants it, don't want him to win it,

1589
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 11: but you want something close down the streets. But yeah,

1590
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 11: I love watching the Masters.

1591
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, Hey, listener, take it given where

1592
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 2: you are said, another another week off the news for you.

1593
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 18: No need to pop into no no, no back it back

1594
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 18: in back in a day or two. The off for

1595
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 18: the buffet breakfast.

1596
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 2: Soon, Michael. You enjoy Jason, Sorry about that, Jason Pine,

1597
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: Andrew Seville. It's a twenty two the.

1598
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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Feeley's Real Estate News Talks.

1599
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Speaker 2: You're hiring an internal HR first, and that could sit

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Speaker 2: you back eighty grand a year plus that's before you

1601
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Speaker 2: factor and recruitment onboarding risks. They don't actually know what

1602
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: they're doing, a big investment, big gamble. So is there

1603
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Speaker 2: a bit of way? Yes, there's a bit of way.

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Speaker 2: You can say hello to my HR, the number one

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Speaker 2: choice for keysmb so for just two hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: five dollars a month, you get unlimited access to real

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Speaker 2: HR experts plus in all in one platform that covers

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Speaker 2: the full employee life cycle, from the onboarding to performance, leave,

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Speaker 2: management reminders, the whole lot. If you need to navigate

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Speaker 2: a restructure, disciplinary or trial period, you get all that

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Speaker 2: custom documentation, expert guidance to handle it right, no guess

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Speaker 2: work required. It's all good, big savings, bigger impact, scale

1613
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Speaker 2: your HR without the overhead. So you go to my

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Speaker 2: hr dot works and get started, simple as that.

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Speaker 12: You got it.

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01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: My hr dot works, poscar like I got the day

1617
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: off to watch the Masters, compelling viewing just hope Rory

1618
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 2: hangs on dis chambo battling with desires. See, you're taking

1619
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: the day off. You realize it's over by about ten thirty,

1620
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be ten o'clock will be over? You can

1621
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: get there by morning.

1622
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 4: Tea.

1623
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: Take a half day, Wait, take a whole day. Mike,

1624
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: US Congress predicting five trillion dollar budget deficit, a failed

1625
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: ten year treasury auction, gold at four thousand, plus stock

1626
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 2: markets to come off a further thirty forty percent under

1627
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: normal circumstances, I'd say you're being alarmist, But given what

1628
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: I've watched over the last week or so, I wouldn't

1629
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: rule any of that out. Lord knows where the world's

1630
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: going at the moment. The election campaign isn't helping In Australia.

1631
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: There's a poll out this morning. I get Steve to

1632
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: crunch the numbers through for you. It's not good for

1633
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: the coalition, but it didn't stop them in their official launches,

1634
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: both of them yesterday, literally handing out money they don't have.

1635
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: They know they don't have it. You know they don't

1636
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: have it. But nevertheless they still kept promising Steve Price

1637
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 2: is next.

1638
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show Kiwi's trust to stay in the know.

1639
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: The mic Hosking breakfast with the range rovervi LA designed

1640
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: to intrigue can use.

1641
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: Togs'd be he gives you an insight to the quality

1642
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: of the election campaign currently unfolding in Australia. So it

1643
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: was revealed over the weekend that there's an independent MP

1644
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: called a leg respender. She was paying social media content

1645
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: providers to make videos talking about the great thing she's doing. Now,

1646
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: if that happened you can imagine if that happened here,

1647
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: how it would unfold Meantime, fellow Independent MP Monique Ryan,

1648
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: she's the woman who won the seat in Melbourne from

1649
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: a previous treasurer. She was on a program called ABC

1650
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: Insiders and she was asked about it. Listen to her response, I.

1651
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: Don't really have an opinion on it.

1652
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 17: Really, I think, well.

1653
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: You don't think voters deserve to know that if someone

1654
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: they're watching is saying great things about a politician, whether

1655
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: they're being paid by that politician. I'll goad to go

1656
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: some thought. It's not something I've given great thought to myself. Obviously,

1657
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: I haven't.

1658
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 4: Engaged in anything like that myself. You'd have to give

1659
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 4: that some thought, well.

1660
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 5: Uh, I would think that it would be clear.

1661
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it is.

1662
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: I'd have to give you some thought done international correspondence

1663
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: with ends an eye insurance, peace of mind for New

1664
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,440
Speaker 1: Zealand business.

1665
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 17: Now Stralia to be price they all that good mote unbelievable,

1666
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 17: that is, I mean they are such a bunch of

1667
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 17: pain in the net hypocrites, the deals and the reason

1668
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 17: Manique grind didn't give the actual honest answer there is

1669
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 17: she's probably thinking how quickly can I get someone to

1670
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 17: scrub clean my social media accounts because I've been seeing

1671
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 17: exactly the same thing as a lequispender.

1672
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: Unreal. Hey, the launch, funnily enough, has been going on

1673
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: for ages and they only launched yesterday. I once again

1674
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: ask you the question, when they are literally handing out

1675
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: money they don't have buy the billion, does anybody anywhere

1676
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: ask them any questions about it?

1677
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 5: Or not?

1678
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 10: Well, I should be. I mean, we the taxpayers spent

1679
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 10: billions and billions and billions of dollars yesterday a courtesy

1680
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 10: of tax relief schemes building more houses. And then you

1681
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 10: had Adam Banter Green leader Bob Up and the reason

1682
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 10: he's relevant at all Mike of course we talked about

1683
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 10: last week, is that he could hold the balance of

1684
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 10: power if there's a as the Pulse is suggesting, a

1685
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 10: Hong Parliament. He came out yesterday and said right, everyone

1686
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 10: who goes to university and tithe should go for free

1687
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 10: from now on. And his justification for this, which is

1688
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 10: going to cost forty five billion with a B dollars

1689
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 10: a year, is that Oh well, Anthony Albanezy when he

1690
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 10: went to university courtesy of GoF Whitlam says, back in

1691
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 10: the nineteen seventies they went free. Why shouldn't all our

1692
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 10: kids be able to go free? I mean these people

1693
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 10: have got no idea. I mean the Greens in particular

1694
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 10: that they're sending the country broke. I mean you talk

1695
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 10: about Peter Dutton, he's not much better. He's come out yesterday.

1696
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 10: This is going to cost ten billion dollars. This is

1697
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 10: a one off cost of living tax break now, I

1698
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 10: mean seriously, so anyone earning between forty one hundred and

1699
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 10: four thousand, they're going to be eligible for up to

1700
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 10: twelve hundred dollars tax relief one off of their tax

1701
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 10: for next year. And it goes all the way up

1702
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 10: to one hundred and forty four thousand dollars in the

1703
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 10: sliding scale Prime minustrail been Easy came out and said, Okay,

1704
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 10: I'll spend another ten billion and we'll build one hundred

1705
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 10: thousand houses. Problem with that, of course, is we've got

1706
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 10: no tradees to build them. And he will let low

1707
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 10: income earners buy those houses that are reduced rate. So

1708
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 10: that's his ten billion dollar housing scheam. And I mean

1709
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 10: this is just the start of it. We know that

1710
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 10: in the lead up to yesterday they'd already spent billions

1711
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 10: and billions and billions of dollars that they don't have.

1712
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: Unreally, the poll out this morning, it's only a minor movement,

1713
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: but you can say the Poles have not been kind

1714
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: to the coalition at all yet, have they?

1715
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 10: No, the primary broad continues to slip. It's now down

1716
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 10: to lower them it was when they lost the last

1717
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 10: election on a two preferred basis. There's still fifty two

1718
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 10: forty eight in front, but their primary vote is really

1719
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 10: in the toilet. And you know, you can look at

1720
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 10: news pilots usually pretty accurate predictor, but I always then

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01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 10: go and look at the bookies, and the bookies have

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 10: got the Labor government. Labor in minority government is the

1723
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 10: red hot favorite with the bookies, and the coalition winning

1724
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 10: the election continues to drip away, so there's no money

1725
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 10: for the coalition to win in their own right. But

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01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 10: there's still a couple of weeks to go. I thought

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01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 10: Peter Dutton last week had a pretty good week. I

1728
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 10: thought he certainly beat Antony Albneasy on the campaign trail

1729
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 10: last week. And we're now going to have this interruption

1730
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 10: as you are. We've got Easter coming up the end

1731
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 10: of next week and then Australia at particular quirk, we've

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01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 10: got Antac Day on the Friday following Easter Monday, so

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 10: you're really going to have almost ten days of no

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,959
Speaker 10: campaignings and that's not going to suit Peter.

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01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: Dunn't no exactly. Hey, by the way, I got a

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: text from somebody who just before said they've taken the

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01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: day off to watch the golf. Golf freak. Would you

1738
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: take the day off to watch the golf?

1739
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 10: I am going to a golf course as we speak,

1740
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 10: sit and watch the Masters golf one hundred percent. You've

1741
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 10: got Rory McElroy in front three in front of the

1742
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 10: dish into Shampao. I've got about eight nine holes to go.

1743
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 10: Jason Day the Australian Golf is seven under. He's in

1744
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 10: about times for third place. And I'm listening. I mean

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01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 10: I always listened to you, of course, but I'm listening

1746
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 10: to Masters Golf Radio in the car.

1747
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 2: How do you get that on that on a nap?

1748
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 10: Serious?

1749
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm do. They have good commentators.

1750
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 10: They are fantastic. You mentioned how I mean you're a

1751
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 10: world class broadcast. That's how hard it would be to call.

1752
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 2: Golf exactly on the radio.

1753
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 10: In the hole it's four feet pass.

1754
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: You know you ever played Augusta? No, how much would

1755
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 2: you pay to pay Augusta?

1756
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 10: Two thousand dollars around? Maybe?

1757
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 5: Right?

1758
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: Because it looks beautiful, I think.

1759
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,480
Speaker 10: They asked it's beautiful, absolutely spectacular.

1760
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of which I reckon. I'm a big Beef one fan.

1761
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 2: I've been watching pstre with a great deal of interest.

1762
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,959
Speaker 2: I think he's now a better driver than Lando Norris.

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01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: He's coming about.

1764
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 10: You're on board with him? Yeah, I think so too.

1765
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 10: I mean, he won the Rain Grand Prix overnight. Norris

1766
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 10: was third. As we know, he's a world champion. And

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01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 10: I think kid and if he doesn't make a dreadful

1768
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 10: mistake and either injure himself or completely totaled a car.

1769
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 10: He can win the World Championship this year without any doubt.

1770
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 10: He's now quicker than the Stapping, and he's quicker than

1771
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 10: Hamilton obviously in the Ferrari. So I think he's a

1772
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 10: real chance. And look Liam Lawson, he's you know, he'll

1773
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 10: get better like Piastre will I mean Daniel Ricardo, don't forget,

1774
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 10: was driving and finishing sixteenth seventeenth Land did overnight, So

1775
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 10: I'd give the kid a break.

1776
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: He'll get better, good stuff, all right. We enjoyed the

1777
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: golf course. I'stee price out of Australia for us this

1778
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: morning it is cheez its already sixteen away from nine The.

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Speaker 1: Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 3: A B.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen away from n I'm very glad to read over

1783
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 2: the weekend. Somebody else shared my concern last week, and

1784
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: I asked aloud several times. No one seemed to be

1785
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: remotely exercised about it. But the business of Trump going

1786
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: on truth social yes last week and going good time

1787
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: to buy, and then all of a sudden he makes

1788
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 2: the announcement he does, and of course the market goes

1789
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: through the roof and a lot of people made, a

1790
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: lot of money, went up twenty two percent on the

1791
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 2: particular day. Concerned, did we just watch a multi trillion

1792
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: dollar insider trading scam play out in public before an

1793
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: audience of millions, And I just cannot, for the life

1794
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: of me work out why somebody hasn't chased that up

1795
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 17: Mike.

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Speaker 2: When you were watching the Warriors yesterday, where were you

1798
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 2: in your wine cycle? It's a very good question. You

1799
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: obviously weren't listening to the program on Friday. Were you

1800
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: opening a new bottle or finishing it already opened one?

1801
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: If it was the latter, did you open another one?

1802
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: And if it was a new one, did you finish it?

1803
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: See the thing about I've given up drinking largely apart

1804
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: from a glass or two on the weekend, and that's

1805
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: me done. So I had the privilege of finishing off

1806
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: a bottle from the previous week, and so I had

1807
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of the previous bottle, but a little

1808
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: bit of the new bottle. So I had to answer

1809
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: you a question. I went from one bottle to another,

1810
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: which just if you saw it in isolation, you go, man,

1811
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: that guy drinks a lot of wine. But it wasn't.

1812
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: It was just some wine left over from the previous

1813
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: week and some new wine for the new week. And

1814
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: that wine from the new week is now sitting waiting

1815
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,879
Speaker 2: for me for the next weekend. Fortunately it's a long weekend,

1816
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: so then some of the rules might need to go

1817
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: by the wayside. Tory Farner's my favorite story of the week.

1818
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 2: Once again, how hard question? How hard can it be

1819
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: to beat Tory Farnao in a meryal race? Would the

1820
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: answer be not that hard? Is that why Andrew Little

1821
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: is looking at that game? Jeez on, quids in here?

1822
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: So this morning in the Post, very nice story comes

1823
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: out of the information ax. So one of the first

1824
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: things she did. One of the first things she did

1825
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: was spend thousands of dollars to get Aucklanders to move

1826
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: to Wellington. This is back in twenty twenty two, and

1827
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: ironically I noted the Post story this morning. It played

1828
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 2: out days before she and her senior council staff met

1829
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: the California known as the Courtney Place Reading Complex over

1830
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 2: a fourteen hundred dollars rate paid dinner. I've been to

1831
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: some dinners, and to spend fourteen hundred dollars on dinner

1832
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: these days is quite the dinner. There's a lot of

1833
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 2: something going on there. Either it's a lot of wine

1834
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: or a tremendous number of tappers or both. Anyway, they

1835
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: were trying that failed, of course, so there's spent fourteen

1836
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: hundred dollars on dinner and the whole thing imploded. Anyway. Anyway,

1837
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: they were talking about full page ads in the Herald

1838
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: and they were going to Kiora Tommickey mccarro. That could

1839
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: have been their first mistake, if you know what I mean.

1840
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: Understand a few of you may be considering your career

1841
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 2: options at present. So they were going to run this

1842
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: campaign to get Aucklanders to move to Wellington and you

1843
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 2: would send your interest to work at wellingtononz dot com.

1844
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: And out of that particular campaign an idea, they got

1845
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: twelve emails from a population of one point five million people.

1846
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: Twelve emailed, and obviously no one actually moved. They just emailed.

1847
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 2: And I don't even know that of those twelve emails,

1848
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: nine of them didn't say you're an idiot, please don't

1849
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 2: run for mair again. But twelve emails. So that's so

1850
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: I go back to my question, how hard can it

1851
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: be to victory in an election race? Nine Away from nine.

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:44,160
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Speaker 2: B Mike, you don't pay to play, Augusta, Yeah, I

1854
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: know that. I'm just That's why I asked him how

1855
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: much you'd pay, because you can't but a couple of

1856
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. I thought you'd go high. Personally, what I

1857
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: didn't mention with Dunton I forgot to is I didn't

1858
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: realize Australia's got that. Similarly, you know in the EU

1859
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: they're going to pin karmenufacturers for every car they sell

1860
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: that doesn't have the right emissions level. So you take

1861
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: your whole of fleet, and so if you're a big

1862
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: car company, you have a few cars that have some engines,

1863
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 2: but most of them they want, you know, just a

1864
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: minimal amount of emissions and therefore most cars need to

1865
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: be at least PEV, if not entirely BEV. So they

1866
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: were going to start pinging in. This is all part

1867
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: of this ongoing ev debate and whether any of it's

1868
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 2: realistic and whether any manufacturer can actually get to the point.

1869
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: What I didn't realize is Australia was going to implement

1870
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: exactly the same strategy. So in other words, in Australia,

1871
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 2: if you're a honder in this and a Keira or whatever,

1872
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: if you need to buy a certain date, limit your

1873
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 2: number of emissions in terms of sales, and Dutton yesterday

1874
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: as part of his campaign. Insensibly I would have thought said,

1875
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: that's off, We're canceling it. It will never happen under

1876
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 2: my watch, because he'd calculated that a rav to had

1877
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: a rav was going to increase under those laws by

1878
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: nine thousand, seven hundred dollars, So that particular rule's gone,

1879
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: not that, according to the policy's going to get to

1880
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 2: be Prime minister. So it may not matter five minutes

1881
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:03,839
Speaker 2: away from nine.

1882
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:09,200
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Speaker 2: But he's getting a little bit excited this morning because Universal,

1884
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: which is Taylor's label, have put out news that the

1885
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Swedish conductor and producer Eric Arvinder Alvingdonna has been working

1886
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: on her new album. There isn't a title, It's just

1887
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 2: called TES twelve, which is as far as I can

1888
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 2: work out as good a name for an album as

1889
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: any Tes twelve. It's expected out next year, so it's

1890
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 2: quite a lot of work to go. She's gone quiet,

1891
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: hasn't she. She obviously completed a tour and Travis went

1892
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: and you know, did the football, and so they're doing

1893
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: whatever they do now. Anyway, she's got to re release reputation,

1894
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: and she's got a re release Taylor Swift as the

1895
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: Taylor Swifts or Taylor's Versions or whatever that means. General

1896
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: the albums that she's redoing because of Scooter and all

1897
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: that stuff. I thought she'd done that, but she's still

1898
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: working on that anyway. The Eric Arvinder, he's recorded over

1899
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: two and a half thousand songs, which is just shoving

1900
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: off as far as I can work out a lot

1901
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: of orchestras in boldeness songs. So he plays on this

1902
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: from Harry Styles. I mean, this could be anyone, couldn't it.

1903
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: You say it's Harry Styles? Do we know it is?

1904
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: Where's Harry? I hate that digital looking music, don't you? Anyway?

1905
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: He also does Arianna Glande, so at least there's Arianna,

1906
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: and he didn't tell her.

1907
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 5: All that.

1908
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 2: The background music sounds exactly sounds Harry doesn't. Really it

1909
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 2: doesn't change much, does it. Well, he says to Ariana,

1910
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: tell you, I did this for Harry. It sounds really

1911
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: good with him. See it sounds easier with you. It

1912
01:28:53,200 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: does good. And he also did a Vishi there's a

1913
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: basual these guy who yeh, it's on network. That's well

1914
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: worth watching. I saw the first ten to fifteen minutes

1915
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: and I thought that's well worth watching, and then I

1916
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: haven't got back to it. I'm Tim. I think it's

1917
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 2: called I'm Tim, isn't it? Well, my name is Tim

1918
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: one or the other. I really shouldn't make up a

1919
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: lot of random stuff. At the end of the pros, Yeah,

1920
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 2: I'm Tim. I got it right there, you gay thing

1921
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: wait for me. Anyway. That is us for the day.

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01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Not bad for a holiday Monday, is it. So we'll

1923
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 2: try a holiday Tuesday tomorrow from six as always, Happy Days.

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