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Speaker 2: They'd be six half to five, great to have your company.

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Speaker 2: This morning, fees three is a big flop. So why

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Speaker 2: is the coalition keeping it? We're head to our US correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Trump's threatening Iran Nick Touffy this morning on house prices

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Speaker 2: this year and why do we have so many ambulance

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Speaker 2: calls out in this country? The Agenda Thursday the twenty

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Speaker 2: ninth January. Trump says he will de escalate a little bit.

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Speaker 2: His words on Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Bottomlander was terrible. Both of them were terrible. The other

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Speaker 3: was terrible too. And I'm not sure about his parents,

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Speaker 3: but I know her parents were big Trump fans. Makes

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Bizarre. Meanwhile, Congressman Ilhan Omar was attacked during her

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Speaker 2: speech at a Minneapolis town hall event. Police say there

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Speaker 4: She keeps speaking, Here is the reality that people like

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Speaker 4: this ugly man don't understand we.

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Speaker 5: Will stay basilient in the face of whatever they might.

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Speaker 6: Throw in us.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in other great news, the Bulletin of the Atomic

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Speaker 2: Scientists have moved the doomsday clock a little closer to midnight.

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Speaker 7: It is now eighty five seconds to midnight. This is

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Speaker 7: the closest the world has ever been to midnight. The

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Speaker 7: risks we face from nuclear weapons, climate change, and disruptive

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Speaker 2: All right, calm down. I just feel like they're a

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Speaker 2: little panicky over there at the doomsday clock. Now, more

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Speaker 2: tennis players. We brought you the story yesterdayut of Australia.

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Speaker 2: More tennis players now jumping on the privacy bandwagon over

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Speaker 2: the cameras at the Aussie Open, six time major championship.

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Speaker 2: Egastrion Tech says players are being watched like animals in

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Speaker 4: Are we tennis players or are we like animals into zool?

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Speaker 7: They are observed like even when they popriate that it's exaggerating, obviously,

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Speaker 2: Does she say, kudsy that talk about pooping? Adam was

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one Roofe Love where you Live News.

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Speaker 2: Talk said be as I said yesterday, I don't think

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Speaker 2: we need to watch them stretching and warming up. I

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Speaker 2: it's voyeurism, isn't it now. I watched Judith Collins press

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Speaker 2: Twenty five odd years is a hell of a shift

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Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge eleven after five. Great to have your company.

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Speaker 2: As I say, nine two ninety two is the number

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Speaker 2: Why are we making so many of them?

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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Bryan Bridge and One Rouge Love

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Speaker 1: Where You Live News Talks b five thirteen.

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Speaker 2: We've had a November surprise in job numbers. So this

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Speaker 2: it was flat for December, but the interest which was fine,

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Speaker 2: so the job adds for a sorry. Job placements for

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Speaker 2: November up from zero point three to zero point five

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Speaker 2: This after a year basically of going backwards, so more

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Speaker 2: Association joins us now Hey Mark, good morning, Ryan, good

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Speaker 2: to have you on. Why is this is this in

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Speaker 8: We've got a tsunami of over sixty five population coming.

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Speaker 6: And there's a financial cost because obviously trying to get

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Speaker 2: What percentage of those cares that are actually needed, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's not great, So what do we do about it?

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Speaker 2: This is I care. You know, big multinational international chain.

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Speaker 2: She's a polarizing figure morning, Ryan. Judith Collins is my

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Speaker 9: Nick, good morning.

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Speaker 2: In line with what you're seeing thinking.

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Speaker 2: after five A and Z. By the way, yesterday they've

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Speaker 2: Talks HEB five twenty five. Reading the story this morning

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Speaker 2: What did it cost us? Again? Two point six billion

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Speaker 10: Hold it.

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Speaker 2: Where are the police helping us with this?

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Speaker 11: The real problem is that this institution, this House has

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Speaker 5: The partnership principle tells us that kiwis.

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Speaker 2: Should be ranked by the arrival of their ancestors. Now

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Speaker 4: We made multiple attempts to get Maduro to leave voluntarily

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Speaker 2: Away from Secure on News Talks. Great to have your

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Speaker 2: fees free failure. Trump's making new threats to Iran overnight,

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Speaker 2: to two six, Ryan, they show to Dunedin. From Wall

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Speaker 2: morning Ryan, So what have you got for us? This

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Speaker 12: Thanks to a new collaboration between Otago aut and Victoria

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Speaker 12: If it works well, the scheme will expand from here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds like a good idea. How's the weather.

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Speaker 2: The big Superministry is starting in sex shape them.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the job add to be the new boss of

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Speaker 2: Didn't you say yesterday? Toy is looking for a job.

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Speaker 14: No, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, problem solved. How's your winner? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: High Hey never greetings, Noah, the city rail link, it's coming,

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Speaker 2: it's coming.

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Speaker 5: I thought i'll give you a little weekly tiny update,

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Speaker 5: and tiny it is. We now know that work's been

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Speaker 5: completed on the renewals around White Matar Station. Aw that's

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Speaker 5: obviously formally cor Britomart, so that includes the station's plaza,

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Speaker 5: the eastern glasshouse entrance. But they've been completed, Ryan, Yes,

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Speaker 5: But what's also happening to is that the renewal projects

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Speaker 5: these are at stations in Alti Square and k Road.

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Speaker 5: We can tell you that they'll be finished by the

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Speaker 5: end of the year. But you know it's slowly slowly

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Speaker 5: getting here.

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Speaker 2: So is it not Britamart anymore?

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Speaker 5: No, Well, you know it's now called they've got all

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Speaker 5: these they've changed all the names officially, so it's going

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Speaker 5: to be called the White Maitar Station.

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Speaker 2: So we don't call it anymore.

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Speaker 5: No, no, so, but people will go, oh no, wa,

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Speaker 5: can I call it Badamart. It's still on the trains.

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Speaker 5: They have to tell tell you that the entire train

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Speaker 5: network is up and running from today because they've been

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Speaker 5: testing you see, so it was you know, they were

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Speaker 5: only there were only partial openings for the train lines.

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Speaker 5: It's it's kind of been like the on and off again.

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Speaker 5: And then the news room said, oh, Neva, tell everybody

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Speaker 5: that the lines are going to be open today for

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Speaker 5: all the trains. But then people are going to be

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Speaker 5: very unhappy with me because then they're going to close

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Speaker 5: again for testing for white on weekend.

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Speaker 2: So they're open for a week zero correct, all right,

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Speaker 2: how's that with her? Fine?

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Speaker 5: Twenty five is the high that's positive?

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Speaker 2: His Nevor eighteen away from sex on News Talk ZIB,

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Speaker 2: A little update on Memdami in New York. He's got

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Speaker 2: a budget deadline he needs to meet first big test

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Speaker 2: for him. Also, we'll get to a US correspondent on

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Speaker 2: Trump and Iran and his tweets. Overnight News Talk.

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Speaker 1: ZIB International correspondence with Ensi Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business called.

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Speaker 2: It to sexual do do three in a sick and

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Speaker 2: it's got to Jagouti Dave our US correspondent Jigouti. What's

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Speaker 2: Trump being tweeting or true socialing overnight about Iran.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he has threatened essentially more action in Iran. He said,

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Speaker 11: a massive armada is heading that way. It's moving quickly

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Speaker 11: with great power, enthusiasm, and purpose. This is a fleet.

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Speaker 11: It's the USS Abraham Lincoln with warships alongside that has

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Speaker 11: been sent to Iran. This is the President confirming on

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Speaker 11: truth social and he's saying that this fleet is larger

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Speaker 11: than that was to Venezuela. And he is essentially calling

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Speaker 11: on Iran to come to the table and negotiate a

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Speaker 11: nuclear deal, one that is involving no nuclear weapons, is

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Speaker 11: what he said in capitals. He's saying, as I told

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Speaker 11: Iran once before, make a deal. They didn't, and there

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Speaker 11: was Operation Midnight Hammer. This is a reference to last

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Speaker 11: June's US strikes on the three nuclear facilities in Iran,

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Speaker 11: and he said that the next attack will be far worse.

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Speaker 11: Don't make that happen again.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like this is Others aren't paying attention

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Speaker 2: this time, right, The Europeans are very nervous about this.

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Speaker 2: The Israelis are really nervous about you know, what does

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Speaker 2: Iran do if America does do something?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you've got a response to this from

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Speaker 11: the Iran's mission to the United Nations. They say that

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Speaker 11: Iran is ready for dialogue based on mutual respects and interests,

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Speaker 11: but if pushed, it would defend itself and respond like

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Speaker 11: never before. So you have, you know, US and Iran,

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Speaker 11: their relations have been pretty shaky as the thing as

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Speaker 11: an understatement, and Donald Trump has talked about intervention following

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Speaker 11: those massive protests that we've seen in Iran, the biggest

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Speaker 11: in decades, and he first of all said that he

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Speaker 11: would intervene if protesters were killed, but then he changed

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Speaker 11: his mind, saying that it looks like things were calming

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Speaker 11: down there. Now protests there have stopped, and in this

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Speaker 11: message through social posts, the president is now threatening. It

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Speaker 11: appears over nuclear program the US pulled. Remember President Trump

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Speaker 11: pulled the US out of the Iran nuclear deal and

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Speaker 11: subsequent talks have stalled. Partners in the region have said,

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Speaker 11: you know, the UA in Saudi Arabian particular, have said

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Speaker 11: most recently that any US led operation in Iran would

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Speaker 11: not they would not be participating in it, They would

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Speaker 11: not be using their territorial waters or airspace to take

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Speaker 11: part in those in any further strikes on Iran. So

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Speaker 11: I think this is something that the US is weighing,

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Speaker 11: whether the partners in the Middle East are going to

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Speaker 11: be on board, and also whether people in Iran strikes

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Speaker 11: in Iran, whether that would help or hinder protesters, and

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Speaker 11: how it would be received internally in Iran as well.

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Speaker 11: So I think there's lots of considerations, but the clearly

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Speaker 11: action is not off the table yet.

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Speaker 2: To Grouty, appreciate your time this morning to gritty down

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Speaker 2: to our US correspondent, it is twelve to six Bryan

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Speaker 2: Bridge Prize. Surprise Labour's fees free wasn't all it was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be. New numbers out this morning show just

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty students from the most disadvantaged schools

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand used it. By twenty twenty four, seventy

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Speaker 2: percent of the users came from above average socioeconomic backgrounds.

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Speaker 2: The Ministry of Educations admitted that fees weren't a major barrier. Actually,

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Speaker 2: to start with, Aidan Donahue is the viewser Vice President

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Speaker 2: joining us this morning, Hey, Aiden, good morning. Doesn't well,

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Speaker 2: it's been a bit of a failure in terms of

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Speaker 2: what it's set out to do right.

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Speaker 10: In the terms of addressing the disparities between socioeconomic different backgrounds. Then, yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's been tough going for that one.

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Speaker 2: So does it work now because coalitions come in and

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Speaker 2: they've changed it from the first year to the last year.

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Speaker 2: The idea is that it will help students or encourage

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Speaker 2: them to finish their degrees, finish their studies. Does that

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Speaker 2: actually stack up either?

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Speaker 10: Not really, as the real issue is not where that

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Speaker 10: the weather students will be paying more or less debt

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Speaker 10: off at the end, but rather how much money they

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Speaker 10: have to play with during the week a week, And

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Speaker 10: that's really the decision or the key decision for students

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Speaker 10: whether or not they actually go to university or work

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Speaker 10: full time.

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Speaker 2: Do you do many students work full time and go

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Speaker 2: to university.

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Speaker 10: No, they don't work full time or go to university,

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Speaker 10: but many of them do work up to twenty hours.

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Speaker 10: But even if you work twenty hours and got the

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Speaker 10: maximum amount of living costs and you're working at minimum wage,

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Speaker 10: it'd still be one hundred and fifty dollars worse off

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Speaker 10: than if you just work full time at minimum wage.

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Speaker 2: The reason I'm asking is that do you think students

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Speaker 2: could be working more on the side while they're studying

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Speaker 2: in order to fund the living costs, and then you

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Speaker 2: chuck the fees onto the student loan and you pay

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Speaker 2: that down once you've got a full time gig.

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Speaker 10: I don't believe shiins could work more than say the

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Speaker 10: sixty hour weeks. Studying should be a full time job

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Speaker 10: if we really want to get the best out of

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Speaker 10: our tertiary students and they really engage with the material,

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Speaker 10: and we really get a return on investment by having

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Speaker 10: really good educated workforce at the end.

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Speaker 8: At the end of the road.

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Speaker 2: Is it frustrating when politicians have these great hair brained

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Speaker 2: ideas and they don't work and they cost us I

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Speaker 2: think this one is two point six billion dollars something

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Speaker 2: like that, and then everyone goes, oh, well, that was

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Speaker 2: a waste of money. They didn't need it. You know,

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Speaker 2: it sort of undermines any you know, you might want

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Speaker 2: funding for something else that might work. Kind of undermines that,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: It is tough.

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Speaker 10: It's always a question of decisions. The money still goes

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Speaker 10: towards the universities, so it isn't just going off to

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Speaker 10: the ether. But ultimately you would like to see that

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Speaker 10: sort of money go towards allowing more students more flexibility

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Speaker 10: with their options.

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Speaker 2: All right, Aid and appreciate your time this morning. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for being with me. Aiden Donahue. Is the views of

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Speaker 2: Vice President. That's the Victoria University Students Association. By the

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Speaker 2: way in Wellington, it is nine to six News Talks

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Speaker 2: here b Mike's here with you.

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Speaker 1: Next, get ahead of the headlines on early edition with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof love where you Live News

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Speaker 1: Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B seven away from six. The Dutch have finally got

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Speaker 2: a government three months after they had an election. It

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Speaker 2: was a big upset election and so it's a minority,

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Speaker 2: very rare for them. A minority coalition deal that's been

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Speaker 2: struck with your liberal, progressive, pro European lot, throw in

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Speaker 2: the conservative Christian lot, throw in VVD, which is a

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Speaker 2: right wing party, and you get sixty six seats out

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Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty. So they basically have to

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Speaker 2: work through try and get a majority. If they can't

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Speaker 2: get a majority, then they can resort to a minority coalition,

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Speaker 2: which is what they've ended up with. And they'll have to,

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Speaker 2: of course on those numbers, work with opposition parties on

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Speaker 2: every piece of legislation that they want to get through.

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Speaker 2: They'll have to work with someone else to try and

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Speaker 2: get it done. And Bread read and likes with us. Now, Hey, Mike, Hey, Ryan, Hey,

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Speaker 2: do you think what do you think Winston's going to

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Speaker 2: do after the election, Like, I know, what do you mean? Well,

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Speaker 2: who's he going to go with?

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Speaker 9: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why? What is it with you? Guys?

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Speaker 15: He's going with the National Party.

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Speaker 2: Really, this idea that he's going.

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Speaker 15: To toy with labor and work with labor and side

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Speaker 15: it isn't happening. Give it up now, do not know?

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Speaker 2: This is?

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Speaker 15: This is everything you are everything that's wrong with the

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Speaker 15: media in this country, Your endless speculation, pontification. Put the

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Speaker 15: smoke up the chimney and see if anyone bites. He

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Speaker 15: stays with the slot. What do you want your bucks.

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Speaker 2: To the charity? You explain me twenty seventeen?

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Speaker 15: Then no, you can't. You can't go back and revise history.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's not revising history. Happened. He's a different play.

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Speaker 2: He's ruled labor out, He's ru ruled Hepkins out.

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Speaker 15: Hopkins isn't getting rolled. Okay, here's a scenario on thirty

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Speaker 15: five percent at the moment, Labor are traveling well. You

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Speaker 15: don't roll a leader of a party traveling well in election.

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Speaker 2: Yet here's a scenario after the election negotiations. Winston says, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I want to I don't know, share the PM roll

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Speaker 2: something chippy? Will you move over? Will you put Barbara?

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, is it to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the the Herald?

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Speaker 15: I mean, what's going on? What's going one hundred dollars

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Speaker 15: to the charity of your choice that one Hipkins won't

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Speaker 15: get rolled and two Peters isn't going with Labor guarantee it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not reputation say he was. I didn't say

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Speaker 2: he was. I asked for your opinion and you've got ed.

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Speaker 2: You just got it.

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Speaker 15: And if you raise it again between now and November

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Speaker 15: the seventh, I'll come across there and smack you're on

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Speaker 15: the hend.

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Speaker 2: You got it. By the way, how.

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Speaker 15: Long do you think? Well after that your career is

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Speaker 15: not going to go that. But I was going to

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Speaker 15: ask you how long you reckon you're going to be

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Speaker 15: in your career? Reason I asked, this is Colin's twenty

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Speaker 15: four year Everyone goes twenty four years, don't they go? Oh,

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Speaker 15: twenty four years. Is it the term or is it

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Speaker 15: the contribution?

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Speaker 2: Well, the contribution. Of course you could sit there and

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Speaker 2: do nothing for.

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Speaker 15: A well, that's right, and so but we'd still go, oh,

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Speaker 15: twenty four years, wouldn't it? But I think the contribution's

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Speaker 15: worth dwelling on, isn't it? Eighteen portfolios? A lot of portfolios,

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Speaker 15: because I think about this Yesterday's two. There's two things

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Speaker 15: in politics, isn't There's one. There's the running of the country,

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Speaker 15: So those the decisions you have to make country.

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Speaker 2: There's the theater in the business.

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Speaker 15: Yes indeed, and so therefore then there's a contribution that

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Speaker 15: might stand the test of time. So what did you

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Speaker 15: do that change the face of the country that in

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Speaker 15: twenty years time will and go oh they did that?

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Speaker 15: Remember you see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the reformers, but also there's also just the

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Speaker 2: competent people that know how to run ministry. She is

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Speaker 2: one of them.

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Speaker 15: And that's the other thing I'll talk to for about

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Speaker 15: this morning, because I suspect in the twenty four years

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Speaker 15: she's been there that the game has changed, unfortunately for

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Speaker 15: the worse, and we don't attract some of the quality

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Speaker 15: players like we might work that we might once have,

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Speaker 15: which is said, it.

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Speaker 2: Is a sorry sorry. Same with broadcasting for college. It

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