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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 2: News Talk s ed B, Yod and New Zeala. Good

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Speaker 2: morning and welcome to News Talk EDB for our last

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning together of twenty twenty four. It is my

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Speaker 2: absolute pleasure to be with you this morning, and we

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Speaker 2: have a cracking show as we count down to Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Richard Curtis is I think the bona fide master of

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Speaker 2: Christmas films and good news, he's got a new one out.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna tell you about it before ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: Then after ten o'clock our feature interview, The Sound of

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Speaker 2: Summer is back. The Sound of Summer is of course

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Speaker 2: Kiwi band Alamentop. Dave Gibson from Alamentop has made his

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Speaker 2: way from New York to New Zealand. He's going to

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Speaker 2: be with us in studio after ten o'clock. So I

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Speaker 2: cannot wait for that. Right now. It is seven minutes

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Speaker 2: And the obvious question is why why would you do it? Why?

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Speaker 2: Would you put yourself through it. No one was compelling us,

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Speaker 2: no one had a gun to our heads. We weren't

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Speaker 2: competing for a million dollars on a reality TV show.

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Speaker 2: So why why two weeks before Christmas, with all of

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Speaker 2: the stress and the pressure of the silly season, in

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Speaker 2: the midst of that heavy, humid tropical Auckland heat, with

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Speaker 2: Marve seven months pregnant, why would we decide that now

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Speaker 2: was the time to put up wall stickers in our

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Speaker 2: baby's bedroom. Now. To be accurate, I'm not actually totally

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Speaker 2: sure if they were wall stickers or wall decals. I

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Speaker 2: don't really understand the difference between the two. All I

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Speaker 2: know is that they were two enormous trees, each of

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Speaker 2: them about three meters high, that came in multiple parts,

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Speaker 2: needing to be perfectly stuck to the wall. Different branches

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Speaker 2: and shrubbery had to be placed together perfectly. Least one

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Speaker 2: half of the trees sit lower than the other. One mistake,

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Speaker 2: just one mistake in your eye gets drawn immediately to

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Speaker 2: where the pieces should connect, or a lump of bunched

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Speaker 2: up sticker creased together, a permanent reminder of stress and incompetence.

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Speaker 2: My first experience with wall stickers or wall decals was

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Speaker 2: for my old apartment wall. Now, the map was exquisite,

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Speaker 2: incredibly detailed, but it required two giant sheets to be

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Speaker 2: perfectly aligned. I nailed the first one. It was level,

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Speaker 2: no creases, no lines. But I tilted the second sheet

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Speaker 2: by just one or two degrees. And the thing is,

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Speaker 2: when you're sticking them to the wall, you start at

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Speaker 2: the top. So by the time I had worked my

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Speaker 2: way down to the Tropic of Capricorn, it was obvious

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Speaker 2: that I was in trouble. For years afterwards, I stared

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Speaker 2: at that wall, consumed by the overlap which cut out

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Speaker 2: three quarters of the territory between Adelaide and Perth, and

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Speaker 2: a crease which created an unexpected mountain range east of

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Speaker 2: the Falkland Islands. Trust me when I say this, even

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Speaker 2: if visitors don't notice it, you notice it now. I

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Speaker 2: know what you're thinking, wall stickers are tacky. Well, well,

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Speaker 2: Marva had decided it wasn't the sort of thing for

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Speaker 2: given Marva is you know, kind of two people at

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Speaker 2: on the ladder. Looking back at those few hours, though,

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Speaker 2: I think the fact that tree wall stickers were expensive

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Speaker 2: As I teetered on the step ladder a little to

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Speaker 2: bridge of my nose and PLoP onto the floor below me. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: not your nails. I don't know how hanging wall stickers

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Speaker 2: compares to hanging wallpaper. In the end, it was a

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Speaker 2: team effort, from the peeling of the stickers to the

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Speaker 2: against the wall. In the end, though, the real measure

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Speaker 2: of success isn't the fact that the trees look fantastic,

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Speaker 2: that somehow our relationship survived. Jack Team ninety two. Ninety

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Speaker 2: me a messages this morning Jacket newstalks edb dot co

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Speaker 2: EDB this morning before ten. Perhaps Nicky works our cook's

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Speaker 2: most important advice of the year. She's gonna tell us

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Speaker 2: her top tips on nailing your Christmas Turkey. Cannot wait

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Speaker 2: for that right now, It's twelve minutes past nine. Kevin

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Speaker 2: Murlon will kick us off next Saturday morning. I'm Jack tame.

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Speaker 2: This is Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 4: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack team and beep you it on

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Speaker 2: EDB quarterbas nine on newstorgs EDB. Jennifer sent me a

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Speaker 2: text tos so Jack made me laugh. We had to

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I totally relate. My partner and I tried putting up

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Speaker 2: wallstickers a few years ago. Honestly, we are still arguing

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Speaker 2: for it. Jack Jack Jack. Never with the wallstickers. Never,

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Speaker 2: never with wallpaper either, paint only at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day. It's lower risk. Jack, well done for expressing vulnerability.

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Speaker 2: I think it's serious, serious vulnerability on my part trying

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Speaker 2: to put up wallstickers. Our text number is nine two

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Speaker 2: nine two. Don't forget that. If you're sending me a

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Speaker 2: text them this morning. Standard text costs supply you can

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Speaker 2: email me as well if you like. Right now it

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Speaker 2: is quarter past nine and Kevin Milner is with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. Kevin, have you ever done wallstickers or wallpapers?

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Speaker 2: You remember it? No, you trust me you remember it,

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Speaker 2: so don't If you can't remember it, you haven't done it.

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Speaker 2: It's not the sort of thing that one forgets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly the when you told that story, some

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Speaker 3: nervousness came back to me. But I can't remember an

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Speaker 3: to make the point that I don't know how good

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Speaker 3: you are at the wall sticks, but you've become a

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Speaker 3: frighteningly good interviewer. I watched I watched your interview with

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister. I get nervous now just getting on

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Speaker 3: might ask me a question I don't know if you.

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Speaker 2: Have, and then interrupt you constantly until you answer it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm lucky to you know that. One of the great

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Speaker 2: to This is the thing I love about our Saturday

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Speaker 2: A can be from time to time? But yes, yes, exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I remember Brian Edwards a great interviewer. He credited some

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's interesting. Well no, yeah, I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: I always think if they're politicians and senior cabinet menisters

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Speaker 2: and that sort of thing, they're usually pretty practiced it

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Speaker 2: foreign environment, being in a TV studio, I think, regardless

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Speaker 2: of who you are. But anyway, Kevin, you've been celebrating

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Speaker 2: an addition to the Milne family this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as you await, in addition to your household, we've

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Speaker 3: added to ours. Not a baby. I drew the line

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Speaker 3: a fair innings. No, we have a gorgeous golden retriever

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Speaker 3: nearly four months old, toilet trained in a recent graduate

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Speaker 3: of puppy school. All's gone well so far. The previous

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Speaker 3: busy young household. Actually, he has already chewed into some

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Speaker 3: of the back files of My Woman's Weekly columns. This

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Speaker 3: thought it was hilarious. They don't realize those columns may

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Speaker 3: retrievers are indeed extremely intelligent. Retrievers were, of course, originally

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Speaker 3: So don't be surprised if I'm knocking your door, Jack,

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Speaker 3: with some grouse and a partridge for your Christmas dinner.

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Speaker 3: In truth, Jack, actually I noticed when I was writing

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Speaker 3: Okay, now we don't have a name for our puppy yet,

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Speaker 3: though I'm tempted to call him either Tame or Jack.

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Speaker 3: Tame tends a great name for a pet dog, isn't it. Though.

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Speaker 3: what his name? So we might go for Jack. When

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Speaker 3: Jack's tame, which would be rightly amusing to everybody. But

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Speaker 2: Jack very good. That is very very very good. I

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Speaker 2: like that he well, yeah, it depends on his behavior,

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Speaker 2: I suppose otherwise. Yeah, but I mean a gold anyway.

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Speaker 3: So there's something that you've got for trend the two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would have thought golden retrievers are dear,

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Speaker 2: I say, pretty high maintenance, aren't they, in terms of

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Speaker 3: Ah, this is bad news for me, Jack, I thought

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Speaker 3: we were getting something fairly sort of straightforward because we've

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Speaker 2: Border collegues the top of the list, aren't they in

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Speaker 2: They, are they? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: running around. It's like having another baby in now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's so much fun though. Way, there's there's

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Speaker 2: such a kind of magic and joy from having a

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Speaker 3: And our family. I think it's turned out to be.

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Speaker 3: Now I am wondering why I talked into the squad

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Speaker 2: Well here, yeah, yeah, true, Yes, he's very convenient for her.

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Speaker 2: Well look, Kevin, thank you so much for for everything

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Speaker 2: this year. This is my last show for the year.

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Speaker 2: So you have a wonderful Christmas, won't you, and enjoy

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Speaker 2: having the puppy there. We should say, of course, that

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Speaker 2: your family has given this careful consideration. The girls in

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Speaker 2: your family. And then obviously you are experienced, you are

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Speaker 2: experienced dog owners, so you're not recommending that everyone makes

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Speaker 2: a spirit of the moment puppy decision heading into Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jack. It's been a pleasure, and thank you

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Speaker 8: Good morning. I'm looking forward to that Robbie Williams. Yes review, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: from the King of Christmas movies, Richard Curtis, This tis good.

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Speaker 3: A tale of one of the most challenging dates of

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Speaker 9: Chance you won't get all those sacks down the chimney

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Speaker 12: of Christmas for so many different families and things. As

432
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Speaker 12: you mentioned, it is based on the Charming trilogy of

433
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Speaker 12: children's books by Richard Curtis. So a lot of people

434
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Speaker 12: at this time of the year might be watching Love

435
00:23:01,813 --> 00:23:05,573
Speaker 12: actually for the twentieth time. But if you've got if

436
00:23:05,573 --> 00:23:07,333
Speaker 12: you've got some younger kids and you want to find

437
00:23:07,373 --> 00:23:09,493
Speaker 12: a new Richard Curtis favorite, you might want to try

438
00:23:09,493 --> 00:23:12,733
Speaker 12: this one out. Santa does feature in this film very much.

439
00:23:12,733 --> 00:23:15,893
Speaker 12: At the start, he is having one of the worst Christmas,

440
00:23:16,013 --> 00:23:18,973
Speaker 12: is one of the worst nights he's ever had, terrible storms,

441
00:23:19,453 --> 00:23:21,653
Speaker 12: and there's a lot of dramas and issues in a

442
00:23:21,653 --> 00:23:25,413
Speaker 12: little place in the UK, a fictitious place called Wellington

443
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Speaker 12: on the Sea. So he returns there to leave some presents,

444
00:23:29,253 --> 00:23:33,453
Speaker 12: but then it really becomes about that little community and

445
00:23:33,493 --> 00:23:36,493
Speaker 12: the locals and as I mentioned, the children that sort

446
00:23:36,493 --> 00:23:40,693
Speaker 12: of have different storylines and things. Lots of fun. Great cast.

447
00:23:40,853 --> 00:23:45,253
Speaker 12: Brian Cox, Fiona Shaw, Jodie Whittaker, Brys Derby also turns up.

448
00:23:45,333 --> 00:23:47,333
Speaker 12: You'll hear that voice and go, I know exactly who

449
00:23:47,373 --> 00:23:50,133
Speaker 12: that is, Bill Nahi. So it's got a really great

450
00:23:50,213 --> 00:23:55,613
Speaker 12: cast and the animation I thought was probably could have

451
00:23:55,693 --> 00:23:57,893
Speaker 12: been a a little bit better, a.

452
00:23:57,853 --> 00:23:59,933
Speaker 2: Little bit slicker, and it's a little bit more.

453
00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:02,493
Speaker 12: Thought gone into the actual animation of it. But look

454
00:24:02,493 --> 00:24:05,053
Speaker 12: at his lovely and charming and pleasant and if you'd

455
00:24:05,133 --> 00:24:09,173
Speaker 12: like a Christmas story that isn't just about romance or

456
00:24:09,173 --> 00:24:11,653
Speaker 12: the romantic comedy, but it's got a little bit of everything.

457
00:24:11,653 --> 00:24:14,533
Speaker 12: You got center, but individual stories everybody that Now, Linda

458
00:24:14,653 --> 00:24:15,413
Speaker 12: was right, it's.

459
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Speaker 4: A very good choice.

460
00:24:16,253 --> 00:24:19,213
Speaker 2: Okay, very good. Nice that is that Christmas. So that

461
00:24:19,373 --> 00:24:22,173
Speaker 2: is streaming on Netflix. Now, next up, let's have a

462
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:28,773
Speaker 2: listen to Better Man. I'm Robbie Williams.

463
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Speaker 9: I'm one of the biggest pop stars in the world.

464
00:24:33,173 --> 00:24:36,013
Speaker 9: This is my story, but I'm not going to tell

465
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Speaker 9: it in an ordinary way because I don't see myself

466
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Speaker 9: help others seeming in the.

467
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Speaker 4: Next two hours. You're use it's right.

468
00:24:44,933 --> 00:24:47,813
Speaker 2: To be honest. I've always been a little less evolved

469
00:24:48,773 --> 00:24:51,333
Speaker 2: on a rag. So let's take it from the top,

470
00:24:51,453 --> 00:24:55,133
Speaker 2: shall we. Now, the thing to know about this film,

471
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Speaker 2: which I've only learned this morning, is that that isn't

472
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Speaker 2: quite Robbie Williams as we've seen him before, right, No,

473
00:25:03,413 --> 00:25:03,973
Speaker 2: so this is.

474
00:25:04,053 --> 00:25:07,373
Speaker 12: The gimmick of the film. Okay, So this is based

475
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Speaker 12: on the true story of the crazy rise to favor

476
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Speaker 12: Robbie Williams, who was a teenager when he was selected

477
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Speaker 12: to be part of the manufactured band to take that

478
00:25:16,213 --> 00:25:20,853
Speaker 12: and it also chronicles his very dramatic fall from grace

479
00:25:20,933 --> 00:25:22,853
Speaker 12: at only age twenty one, when he was a raging

480
00:25:22,853 --> 00:25:26,213
Speaker 12: alcoholic and coke addict his words, and then of course

481
00:25:26,253 --> 00:25:28,973
Speaker 12: it sort of follows his resurgence, his determination to prove

482
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Speaker 12: that he had what it takes to be one of

483
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Speaker 12: the biggest pop stars in the world. And as you mentioned,

484
00:25:35,413 --> 00:25:37,213
Speaker 12: there is a little bit of a gimmick behind this film,

485
00:25:37,453 --> 00:25:41,373
Speaker 12: which is the work of Michael Gracie who brought us

486
00:25:41,453 --> 00:25:45,373
Speaker 12: The Greatest Showman and they sat down. He recorded heaps

487
00:25:45,453 --> 00:25:48,853
Speaker 12: of He recorded basically Robbi Williams telling him his story

488
00:25:49,253 --> 00:25:51,533
Speaker 12: and he's turned it into this film. Robin narrates it,

489
00:25:52,413 --> 00:25:56,893
Speaker 12: but a very talented actor will plays him.

490
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Speaker 4: JOHNA.

491
00:25:57,293 --> 00:26:00,533
Speaker 12: Davis plays him. But he is represented as a monkey

492
00:26:00,653 --> 00:26:03,173
Speaker 12: throughout the film because he felt like from a young

493
00:26:03,253 --> 00:26:06,213
Speaker 12: age he was a performing monkey. He was told to

494
00:26:06,573 --> 00:26:09,133
Speaker 12: this is that where they say this, you know, yeah,

495
00:26:09,253 --> 00:26:11,773
Speaker 12: And at the same time he felt like his whole

496
00:26:11,853 --> 00:26:14,733
Speaker 12: life has been in front of the public and everyone's

497
00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:16,973
Speaker 12: got their own opinion and ideas of him, and hence

498
00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:19,493
Speaker 12: he doesn't see himself with other people. So he is

499
00:26:19,573 --> 00:26:25,813
Speaker 12: a very very clever, wetted digital CGI monkey throughout it.

500
00:26:25,933 --> 00:26:27,893
Speaker 12: So this guy John o'davies.

501
00:26:27,533 --> 00:26:29,373
Speaker 11: Plays him, plays him beautifully.

502
00:26:29,973 --> 00:26:32,053
Speaker 12: You can just see so much of Robbie Williams and

503
00:26:32,093 --> 00:26:34,733
Speaker 12: his actions and his eyes and everything, but he's actually

504
00:26:34,773 --> 00:26:35,173
Speaker 12: a monkey.

505
00:26:35,213 --> 00:26:35,333
Speaker 4: Now.

506
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Speaker 12: I wasn't sure that this was going to work. I

507
00:26:37,333 --> 00:26:40,173
Speaker 12: was a bit like, m hm, see how this goes.

508
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:44,853
Speaker 12: This is interesting, But it's fantastic. It is a blast.

509
00:26:45,013 --> 00:26:47,693
Speaker 12: I laughed, I cried. I know the Robbie Williams story,

510
00:26:48,013 --> 00:26:51,053
Speaker 12: but him being so open and honest and sharing it

511
00:26:51,173 --> 00:26:53,933
Speaker 12: with us and with his wit and his charm that

512
00:26:54,093 --> 00:26:55,853
Speaker 12: only Robbie has this charisma.

513
00:26:56,613 --> 00:26:58,973
Speaker 4: It really does work. It is a blast.

514
00:26:59,693 --> 00:27:01,413
Speaker 12: There was a point in my life where I did

515
00:27:01,493 --> 00:27:04,133
Speaker 12: not want to hear the song Angels ever again.

516
00:27:04,693 --> 00:27:07,173
Speaker 11: Everybody played every wedding everywhere you went.

517
00:27:09,093 --> 00:27:12,733
Speaker 12: And I sat there in the theater singing every word.

518
00:27:12,773 --> 00:27:13,893
Speaker 11: Like you just get caught up.

519
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,573
Speaker 2: They use as music as well, so it's.

520
00:27:16,413 --> 00:27:19,373
Speaker 12: A bit musical, it's a biopic, it's a bit musical.

521
00:27:19,853 --> 00:27:22,493
Speaker 12: It's just a blast. And I'm very excited to say

522
00:27:22,533 --> 00:27:24,813
Speaker 12: that Robbie Williams is actually joining me on the Sunday

523
00:27:24,853 --> 00:27:26,413
Speaker 12: session tomorrow after ten am.

524
00:27:28,173 --> 00:27:28,773
Speaker 2: Robbie Williams.

525
00:27:29,253 --> 00:27:30,573
Speaker 12: They Robbie Williams is going to be with me.

526
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Speaker 2: To Robbie Williams, Yeah, are you going to play Angels?

527
00:27:34,613 --> 00:27:34,893
Speaker 10: You know what?

528
00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:36,893
Speaker 12: I just might and I'll probably sit the studio and

529
00:27:37,013 --> 00:27:39,613
Speaker 12: sing every word. No, I was really surprised. I was

530
00:27:39,653 --> 00:27:41,093
Speaker 12: really taking back and how much I love this. This

531
00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:43,533
Speaker 12: isn't out until December the twenty sixth, but if you

532
00:27:43,613 --> 00:27:46,293
Speaker 12: are looking, if it's a bit too hot, or if

533
00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:48,213
Speaker 12: it's raining wherever you are and you need to retreat

534
00:27:48,253 --> 00:27:51,053
Speaker 12: to a cinema, definitely put this on your list of

535
00:27:51,213 --> 00:27:52,933
Speaker 12: films to see in the holidays. And you must listen

536
00:27:52,973 --> 00:27:56,493
Speaker 12: to Robbie tomorrow at teen. He is just so great.

537
00:27:57,413 --> 00:27:58,373
Speaker 2: I had to be honest with you.

538
00:27:58,573 --> 00:28:00,973
Speaker 12: I've become a bit of a fan. It's taken many years,

539
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:01,853
Speaker 12: but I'm a bit of a fan.

540
00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:07,453
Speaker 2: Francisca sounds it sounds wonderful, Okay, I'm I'm really excited

541
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Speaker 2: by that, so that the film is better man like

542
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Speaker 2: you say. It comes out in cinemas on Boxing Day,

543
00:28:12,213 --> 00:28:15,733
Speaker 2: December twenty six and Francisca's first film was That Christmas

544
00:28:15,813 --> 00:28:18,893
Speaker 2: that's streaming on Netflix now. Thank you so much, Francisca.

545
00:28:18,973 --> 00:28:21,013
Speaker 2: Cannot wait for ten o'clock tomorrow morning your feature with

546
00:28:21,053 --> 00:28:22,853
Speaker 2: Robbie Williams, and we will catch again very soon.

547
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Speaker 11: Thanks Jack.

548
00:28:24,853 --> 00:28:27,413
Speaker 2: All right, all the details for those films will be

549
00:28:27,493 --> 00:28:29,173
Speaker 2: up on the news talks he'd b website as well.

550
00:28:29,213 --> 00:28:31,013
Speaker 2: You can go to news Talks hedb dot co dot

551
00:28:31,133 --> 00:28:34,533
Speaker 2: nz at Ford slash Jack and we put everything from

552
00:28:34,573 --> 00:28:36,613
Speaker 2: the show right up there just as soon as it's

553
00:28:36,653 --> 00:28:39,573
Speaker 2: been on the radio. If you aren't looking like you're

554
00:28:39,573 --> 00:28:41,573
Speaker 2: going to be getting off the couch anytime soon, and

555
00:28:41,733 --> 00:28:45,453
Speaker 2: you've already watched that Christmas After ten this morning, we're

556
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Speaker 2: going to have our screen time Picks for this week.

557
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:49,253
Speaker 2: This is where we give you recommendations for all our

558
00:28:49,293 --> 00:28:52,413
Speaker 2: favorite TV shows for watching or streaming at home. We've

559
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Speaker 2: got a cracking new show involving Elton John. It's kind

560
00:28:56,013 --> 00:28:59,453
Speaker 2: of a documentary series in which he is looking back

561
00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:02,573
Speaker 2: and reflecting on his life. He's quite introspective. So I'm

562
00:29:02,653 --> 00:29:04,053
Speaker 2: going to give you a few more details about that

563
00:29:04,213 --> 00:29:06,653
Speaker 2: very shortly. Right now though it is seventeen and it's

564
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Speaker 2: to ten. Our Cook's top Turkey Tips for you next.

565
00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:15,053
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through

566
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Speaker 1: the weekend with Bpure dot cot dot insead for high

567
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Speaker 1: quality supplements US Talk.

568
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Speaker 2: Sad B caught it to ten on news Talks head

569
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Speaker 2: V time to catch up with our cook Niki Wiks

570
00:29:24,493 --> 00:29:28,933
Speaker 2: for one of her most important segments of the whole year.

571
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Nikki, Good morning.

572
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Speaker 11: It's sort of is, isn't it?

573
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Speaker 7: It is?

574
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Speaker 12: This is key.

575
00:29:34,253 --> 00:29:36,093
Speaker 11: This is you know, we don't get this right.

576
00:29:36,253 --> 00:29:37,893
Speaker 2: So are you just to be totally clear, are you

577
00:29:37,973 --> 00:29:40,093
Speaker 2: a turkey person? Because I realize that not everyone is.

578
00:29:40,573 --> 00:29:42,933
Speaker 11: I am a turkey person, and I'm one of about

579
00:29:42,973 --> 00:29:46,653
Speaker 11: two hundred thousand households in New Zealand at Christmas time?

580
00:29:46,733 --> 00:29:50,173
Speaker 11: Who are Turkey people? What I'd have to say is

581
00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:53,533
Speaker 11: we often start off our Christmas menu discussions in our

582
00:29:53,613 --> 00:29:56,773
Speaker 11: family with oh, let's not do the turkey and all

583
00:29:56,853 --> 00:29:59,253
Speaker 11: the bit We always end up back at the turkey.

584
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Speaker 4: Yeah, are you?

585
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:05,253
Speaker 2: I'm a massive turkey person, Amurrican turkey is a well.

586
00:30:05,733 --> 00:30:08,373
Speaker 2: The thing with your turkey is that a really good

587
00:30:08,453 --> 00:30:12,253
Speaker 2: turkey is almost impossible to beat. But a bad turkey

588
00:30:12,413 --> 00:30:15,613
Speaker 2: is not great. You know, it's prey rough.

589
00:30:16,493 --> 00:30:17,893
Speaker 11: It's pretty rough to fight.

590
00:30:18,213 --> 00:30:21,893
Speaker 2: Just to look, especially it's dry. Like the moisture I

591
00:30:22,013 --> 00:30:25,133
Speaker 2: feel like the moisture and turkey. Sorry, I feel really

592
00:30:25,173 --> 00:30:28,933
Speaker 2: strongly that the moisture in turkey is like it's maybe

593
00:30:29,013 --> 00:30:32,413
Speaker 2: more critical than almost any other meat except fish. You know,

594
00:30:32,573 --> 00:30:34,093
Speaker 2: like if it's dry, it's just.

595
00:30:35,213 --> 00:30:38,053
Speaker 11: It's almost impossible. You end up chewing on this kind

596
00:30:38,093 --> 00:30:41,453
Speaker 11: of cud, don't you. Yeah, that never seems to go anywhere.

597
00:30:42,453 --> 00:30:44,213
Speaker 2: You know, it is turkey jerky.

598
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Speaker 9: I like it all.

599
00:30:46,253 --> 00:30:49,493
Speaker 11: You've started something there, I love it. I'm with you.

600
00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:52,213
Speaker 11: So if you can get it right. There's no flavor

601
00:30:52,373 --> 00:30:57,013
Speaker 11: like turkey. There was no flavor. I just this this week,

602
00:30:57,173 --> 00:30:59,773
Speaker 11: I made some little turkey pies for our local indoor

603
00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:03,413
Speaker 11: bowling club because it was their Christmas dinner and I

604
00:31:03,533 --> 00:31:06,813
Speaker 11: always cater for it just for fun. And what I

605
00:31:06,933 --> 00:31:09,973
Speaker 11: did was I went to a place where you could

606
00:31:10,013 --> 00:31:13,493
Speaker 11: buy just the turkey wings, and I bought packets of

607
00:31:13,533 --> 00:31:16,653
Speaker 11: turkey wings and they were the best. I'd already bought

608
00:31:16,693 --> 00:31:19,973
Speaker 11: my big turkey. I rather thought, gosh, these would be

609
00:31:20,013 --> 00:31:22,533
Speaker 11: going AND's only twelve were these indoor bowlers, So I

610
00:31:22,693 --> 00:31:26,573
Speaker 11: just wanted a short small amount. Braised them and then

611
00:31:26,853 --> 00:31:29,413
Speaker 11: took the cover off and roasted them, got some color

612
00:31:29,453 --> 00:31:31,973
Speaker 11: on them, and stripped them off. Oh, because the turkey

613
00:31:32,013 --> 00:31:34,813
Speaker 11: wings are fantastic. They're full of fat, they're you know,

614
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,653
Speaker 11: they're great, and they were really good. So if you're

615
00:31:37,693 --> 00:31:41,573
Speaker 11: having a slightly smaller Christmas gathering this year, I would

616
00:31:41,613 --> 00:31:42,053
Speaker 11: recommend this.

617
00:31:42,213 --> 00:31:43,053
Speaker 2: Don't do the whole bird.

618
00:31:43,533 --> 00:31:45,333
Speaker 11: Don't do the whole bird. But anyway, here's what to

619
00:31:45,373 --> 00:31:46,853
Speaker 11: do if you have got the whole bird, as I

620
00:31:47,053 --> 00:31:50,413
Speaker 11: have and as your family will have, how to keep

621
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Speaker 11: the darn thing from drying out. This is my top tip.

622
00:31:53,293 --> 00:31:56,493
Speaker 11: This is the first of my top tips. I stuffed

623
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Speaker 11: stuff under the skin of the breast. Okay, because that's

624
00:32:00,213 --> 00:32:03,333
Speaker 11: the bit that dries out. The legs, the thighs, that's

625
00:32:03,373 --> 00:32:06,653
Speaker 11: all fine. They take a lot longer to This is

626
00:32:06,693 --> 00:32:10,213
Speaker 11: the trick who butter Maybe put some chopped spinach in there,

627
00:32:10,213 --> 00:32:13,013
Speaker 11: because spinach, raw spinach, it has lots of water in it,

628
00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:15,693
Speaker 11: which is great. It then you know, melds into that

629
00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:16,733
Speaker 11: breast point.

630
00:32:16,933 --> 00:32:19,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Yeah, sausage some people go for.

631
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Speaker 11: Some people laid bacon over the top. Mum used to

632
00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:23,453
Speaker 11: do a little bit of butter pape over the top,

633
00:32:23,893 --> 00:32:26,973
Speaker 11: so things like that. Stuff something under the breast or

634
00:32:27,133 --> 00:32:30,293
Speaker 11: over top of it, and that'll keep it. Consider cooking

635
00:32:30,333 --> 00:32:32,813
Speaker 11: it in a large oven bag. I did this once

636
00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:35,453
Speaker 11: for a cooking a food shoot many years ago for

637
00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:38,893
Speaker 11: this weekly. The whole thing was so tender that it

638
00:32:38,973 --> 00:32:40,933
Speaker 11: all collapsed. It was terrible to shoot. We had to

639
00:32:40,973 --> 00:32:43,733
Speaker 11: sort of put it together like we were allthopedic surgeons.

640
00:32:45,653 --> 00:32:47,053
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, this is what we do in the

641
00:32:47,093 --> 00:32:48,853
Speaker 2: tame household. And when I say, well, of course, it's

642
00:32:48,893 --> 00:32:52,893
Speaker 2: my beloved mum. No, she's absolutely swears by using a

643
00:32:52,973 --> 00:32:56,053
Speaker 2: large oven bag and it's so moist as a result.

644
00:32:56,893 --> 00:32:58,453
Speaker 11: Nothing bad can happen in that bag.

645
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Speaker 13: So do that.

646
00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:03,733
Speaker 11: I think that's good. Also, when you bring the turkey

647
00:33:03,853 --> 00:33:06,813
Speaker 11: out to rest it, rest it on its breast, so

648
00:33:06,893 --> 00:33:09,093
Speaker 11: flip it up. We often we often have it breasted up,

649
00:33:09,213 --> 00:33:11,053
Speaker 11: you know, because that's the way was of course to

650
00:33:11,133 --> 00:33:13,653
Speaker 11: rest it and all the juices run into the white meat,

651
00:33:13,693 --> 00:33:14,493
Speaker 11: which is fantastic.

652
00:33:15,573 --> 00:33:16,453
Speaker 2: Just flip it round so.

653
00:33:19,133 --> 00:33:21,293
Speaker 11: It's got back up top, breast down, and then when

654
00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:22,693
Speaker 11: you can serve it, you can turn it up. But

655
00:33:22,773 --> 00:33:26,733
Speaker 11: once while it's resting, do that. People also talk about brining.

656
00:33:26,893 --> 00:33:29,813
Speaker 11: I've never had much successful it, mostly because turkeys are

657
00:33:29,893 --> 00:33:32,453
Speaker 11: large birds to wrangle, and so you've got to essentially

658
00:33:32,493 --> 00:33:35,493
Speaker 11: put them on a really large container to brine it whole,

659
00:33:35,613 --> 00:33:38,453
Speaker 11: and then that container needs to go into a large fridge. Well, hello,

660
00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:41,053
Speaker 11: unless you've got a chiller for me. So those other

661
00:33:41,093 --> 00:33:44,213
Speaker 11: tips will keep it from drying out. Stuffing Jack, you've

662
00:33:44,213 --> 00:33:48,053
Speaker 11: got your bread crumb based one with herbs and onions,

663
00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:50,173
Speaker 11: et cetera in there. What I want to tell people

664
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Speaker 11: is make sure that you soak the crumbs in milk

665
00:33:53,293 --> 00:33:56,333
Speaker 11: for a start off. Because bread crumbs either fresh. You

666
00:33:56,453 --> 00:33:59,413
Speaker 11: always be using fresh bread crumbs. But what they do is,

667
00:33:59,453 --> 00:34:01,813
Speaker 11: if you think about it, they want to schloop up juices,

668
00:34:02,293 --> 00:34:05,333
Speaker 11: which is good, but it can make it dry out

669
00:34:05,413 --> 00:34:08,213
Speaker 11: as well because it slooping up juices from your turkey.

670
00:34:08,493 --> 00:34:10,613
Speaker 11: So soak those bread crumbs that you're going to use

671
00:34:10,693 --> 00:34:13,573
Speaker 11: for your stuffing in some milk first. You just need

672
00:34:13,653 --> 00:34:16,333
Speaker 11: to just cover them in milk and they'll and then

673
00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:18,493
Speaker 11: they'll swell up and they'll be nice and moist. You

674
00:34:18,533 --> 00:34:20,973
Speaker 11: can use sausage or other ground meat is really great.

675
00:34:21,013 --> 00:34:23,493
Speaker 11: You could use rice and mushrooms, that kind of ChIL

676
00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:25,613
Speaker 11: eat so and corn bread. I have had that before.

677
00:34:25,973 --> 00:34:27,493
Speaker 11: I've done that before, but I've had to buy the

678
00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:29,613
Speaker 11: corn make the corn bread first, and that's a pain,

679
00:34:29,653 --> 00:34:32,613
Speaker 11: but that's quite nice. And then I also consider a

680
00:34:32,733 --> 00:34:35,373
Speaker 11: punch of kind of sweetness like a currant or some

681
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,573
Speaker 11: cranberries or maybe some chopped up apple in that stuffing,

682
00:34:38,613 --> 00:34:43,493
Speaker 11: which is great gravy. I mean, you want to when

683
00:34:43,493 --> 00:34:45,813
Speaker 11: you are rosy bird, you want to make sure that

684
00:34:45,853 --> 00:34:49,413
Speaker 11: you put some chopped onions in there. Turkey cooks for

685
00:34:49,453 --> 00:34:51,173
Speaker 11: a long time, so you can just have or quarter

686
00:34:51,253 --> 00:34:53,333
Speaker 11: the onions because they're going to give you some really

687
00:34:53,373 --> 00:34:56,653
Speaker 11: great flavor with some with some of those scrapings from

688
00:34:56,693 --> 00:34:59,733
Speaker 11: the pan. That is the only drawback of using a

689
00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:01,693
Speaker 11: bag jack. And I don't know what your mum does,

690
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:03,693
Speaker 11: but you don't get any of those. You get lots

691
00:35:03,733 --> 00:35:05,373
Speaker 11: of juice in the bag, which you can use for

692
00:35:05,453 --> 00:35:07,813
Speaker 11: the gravy, but you don't get any of those gnarally

693
00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:10,133
Speaker 11: kind of caramelized bits of the roasting dish.

694
00:35:10,413 --> 00:35:11,853
Speaker 2: True, So you know, so that's the.

695
00:35:11,853 --> 00:35:13,173
Speaker 11: Only drawback you can get around that.

696
00:35:13,413 --> 00:35:13,653
Speaker 2: True.

697
00:35:14,133 --> 00:35:15,773
Speaker 11: I use caught of a cup of plain flour and

698
00:35:15,853 --> 00:35:17,893
Speaker 11: the roasting dish. I mix that to a bit of

699
00:35:17,933 --> 00:35:20,933
Speaker 11: a paste with all those pans scrapings always add a

700
00:35:20,973 --> 00:35:23,893
Speaker 11: splash of wine or bubbles, because it just tastes good.

701
00:35:24,253 --> 00:35:26,853
Speaker 11: It's a sort of mysterious flavor. Even if you've got

702
00:35:26,893 --> 00:35:29,133
Speaker 11: people who are non non alcohol drinkers, you've got to

703
00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:31,573
Speaker 11: put that off. It's fine, you know, it cooks off.

704
00:35:31,573 --> 00:35:33,653
Speaker 11: All the alcohol cooks off in about a minute. Then

705
00:35:33,693 --> 00:35:36,053
Speaker 11: add some stock or some veggie water from them new

706
00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:39,613
Speaker 11: potatoes and the peas or something, or even some plain

707
00:35:39,773 --> 00:35:42,293
Speaker 11: water and some seasoning, and then you want to really

708
00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:44,333
Speaker 11: cook that out well for sort of five to six

709
00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:48,093
Speaker 11: to you know, get a nice dark lumfrey gravy leftovers.

710
00:35:48,253 --> 00:35:50,533
Speaker 11: That's what I love about a turkey make a pie

711
00:35:50,893 --> 00:35:54,893
Speaker 11: because suddenly that breast meat is surrounded by beautiful kind

712
00:35:54,893 --> 00:35:57,573
Speaker 11: of white white sauce or not quite a white sauce,

713
00:35:57,613 --> 00:36:00,893
Speaker 11: but you know that well wine saw the gravy, you know,

714
00:36:01,053 --> 00:36:02,933
Speaker 11: kind of just beef up the gravy a bit. I

715
00:36:03,053 --> 00:36:05,853
Speaker 11: also love frying the turkey meat in a pan jack

716
00:36:06,013 --> 00:36:08,813
Speaker 11: until with a bit of a drizzle of pomegranate molasses,

717
00:36:08,853 --> 00:36:12,573
Speaker 11: so slightly crispy at the on the edges, and then

718
00:36:12,693 --> 00:36:16,053
Speaker 11: scattered that, you know over some lessus little baby spinach

719
00:36:16,173 --> 00:36:20,013
Speaker 11: leaves or what what's wrong with just a white, soft,

720
00:36:20,093 --> 00:36:23,653
Speaker 11: white roll stuffed with warm the role.

721
00:36:23,773 --> 00:36:26,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, with lettuce, warms.

722
00:36:26,173 --> 00:36:29,533
Speaker 11: Turkey and some leftover gravy. There is nothing like it.

723
00:36:29,773 --> 00:36:31,373
Speaker 2: Can I just add to that a little bit of

724
00:36:31,413 --> 00:36:34,133
Speaker 2: cranberry sauce and maybe a sliver of brie and.

725
00:36:35,973 --> 00:36:38,653
Speaker 11: From Christ of course you're going to bree and the cranberry.

726
00:36:39,213 --> 00:36:43,053
Speaker 2: That's so good. Ah Man, I'm celibating.

727
00:36:42,693 --> 00:36:42,933
Speaker 4: Isn't it.

728
00:36:43,053 --> 00:36:45,413
Speaker 11: I don't mean so. I mean to How excited are we?

729
00:36:45,693 --> 00:36:45,893
Speaker 2: Yeah?

730
00:36:46,053 --> 00:36:48,253
Speaker 11: You know you can have your hands. I glazed your

731
00:36:48,253 --> 00:36:49,493
Speaker 11: ham on Instagram of course.

732
00:36:51,293 --> 00:36:51,453
Speaker 14: Yeah.

733
00:36:51,493 --> 00:36:53,333
Speaker 11: I should wear my togs more often than those videos

734
00:36:53,573 --> 00:36:56,533
Speaker 11: through the roof. And you can have all your fancy

735
00:36:56,613 --> 00:36:59,013
Speaker 11: other stuff we'll have. We'll be having non traditional stuff

736
00:36:59,013 --> 00:37:00,853
Speaker 11: on our table too, but I think you've got to

737
00:37:00,893 --> 00:37:01,693
Speaker 11: have something a little bit.

738
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Speaker 2: I totally agree. Look, we're going to put all of

739
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Speaker 2: those tips for nailing your Christmas turkey up on the

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Speaker 2: Newstalks ZB website. Thank you so much for everything this year, Nicky,

741
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Speaker 2: and we will catch you again in twenty twenty five.

742
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Speaker 2: NICKI wicks cook there right now it is seven minutes

743
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Speaker 2: to ten. You were Jacktame on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

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Speaker 1: Know Saturday Mornings with Jacktame and Bpewer.

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747
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Speaker 2: EDB, News Talks VB. Thank you very much for your

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Speaker 2: messages throughout this morning, Jack says Megan, I laughed out

749
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Speaker 2: loud listening to your story about the wallstickers this morning.

750
00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:40,733
Speaker 2: Wallstickers are, as you say, very controversial. We tried them once,

751
00:37:40,973 --> 00:37:43,293
Speaker 2: gave up halfway through. The problem we had was that

752
00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:45,733
Speaker 2: the sticker kept on folding over on itself and then

753
00:37:45,773 --> 00:37:49,253
Speaker 2: sticking to itself. Honestly, that is one of the big

754
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Speaker 2: issues I think with the wallsticker. The thing about a

755
00:37:51,213 --> 00:37:53,853
Speaker 2: sticker is that it's very sticky. It's the downside to

756
00:37:53,893 --> 00:37:56,253
Speaker 2: a sticker. In caess you're not familiar. There is a

757
00:37:56,293 --> 00:37:59,213
Speaker 2: clue in the name, and so when you're peeling them

758
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Speaker 2: off and trying to stick them to the wall, you

759
00:38:00,853 --> 00:38:03,373
Speaker 2: have to create a little bit of space and inevitably, yeah,

760
00:38:03,853 --> 00:38:06,173
Speaker 2: you can have some issues where the sticker goes back

761
00:38:06,213 --> 00:38:08,173
Speaker 2: and sticks to itself or sticks to one of the

762
00:38:08,213 --> 00:38:10,133
Speaker 2: other stickers that you're waiting to stick to the wall.

763
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Speaker 2: It's a nightmare. Would not recommend, however, speaking of recommendations, Son,

764
00:38:15,053 --> 00:38:17,693
Speaker 2: just flick us one for cooking turkey. Jack a tip

765
00:38:17,733 --> 00:38:20,013
Speaker 2: here for cooking turkey in the bag. I snipped the

766
00:38:20,053 --> 00:38:23,013
Speaker 2: bag towards the end of cooking, and then cook off

767
00:38:23,053 --> 00:38:25,653
Speaker 2: the juices. Once you've removed the turkey, you can whip

768
00:38:25,813 --> 00:38:28,133
Speaker 2: up the temperature until the juice is brown and then

769
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Speaker 2: that forms the basis of your gravy. Very good, Thank

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Speaker 2: you son. Your ninety two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 2: nub if you want to send us a message after

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock cannot wait for this. Our feature interview this

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Speaker 2: morning is Dave Gibson, the lead singer of Alimentop. It

774
00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:44,333
Speaker 2: is now more than twenty years since they had their

775
00:38:44,413 --> 00:38:47,413
Speaker 2: breakthrough smash three times platinum top of the charts with

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Speaker 2: Love and Disrespect. They've released three albums in the years since,

777
00:38:50,813 --> 00:38:53,493
Speaker 2: and they have become a firm favorite of the Kiwi

778
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Speaker 2: Summer Day lives in New York these days. He's made

779
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Speaker 2: his way back to New Zealand ahead of the summer

780
00:38:58,613 --> 00:39:01,413
Speaker 2: festival circuit. He's with us since studio. After the news,

781
00:39:01,653 --> 00:39:03,853
Speaker 2: it's almost ten o'clock, you're with new sog zedb.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and Vpewer dot co dot insead for high

784
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Speaker 1: quality supplements, news talks that'd be.

785
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Speaker 15: They say that absence makes the heart well ponder bird,

786
00:39:22,013 --> 00:39:22,773
Speaker 15: I doubt it.

787
00:39:24,093 --> 00:39:25,453
Speaker 4: I rarely doubt that.

788
00:39:25,733 --> 00:39:32,613
Speaker 15: Play am pink punk over osans, messinge with emotions, messing with.

789
00:39:32,933 --> 00:39:43,933
Speaker 2: My head, mass and wear my head erupted onto the

790
00:39:44,013 --> 00:39:47,253
Speaker 2: New Zealand music scene in the early aughts. They made

791
00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:50,413
Speaker 2: waves with their pop rocks, sing along anthems like this

792
00:39:50,573 --> 00:39:53,933
Speaker 2: One Fast Times in Tahoe, songs like Verona, every Day

793
00:39:53,973 --> 00:39:57,133
Speaker 2: is a Saturday, and they remain one of New Zealand's

794
00:39:57,213 --> 00:40:00,293
Speaker 2: biggest selling rock acts of all time, having played in

795
00:40:00,333 --> 00:40:03,053
Speaker 2: pretty much every single venue across the country at least

796
00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:07,613
Speaker 2: two or three times. This summer, Alamo pre back together,

797
00:40:08,053 --> 00:40:10,813
Speaker 2: back performing live. They're taking on rhythm and alps in

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Speaker 2: Warnica and key we rock icon Dave Gibson is with

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Speaker 2: me this morning. The lead singer of element Ope held.

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Speaker 15: A good morning, good morning, Jacket's good to see you.

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00:40:20,213 --> 00:40:21,693
Speaker 2: It's great to see you in the flesh. You are

802
00:40:21,773 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 2: back from New York places at the moment. Okay, I'm

803
00:40:24,493 --> 00:40:26,053
Speaker 2: gonna ask you about that in a minute. I just

804
00:40:26,093 --> 00:40:28,053
Speaker 2: want to start off with a very basic question, given

805
00:40:28,133 --> 00:40:29,693
Speaker 2: you are in New York and I know the band

806
00:40:29,813 --> 00:40:31,773
Speaker 2: is kind of spread around the place a little bit.

807
00:40:32,853 --> 00:40:35,413
Speaker 2: How does Elemento Pe work these days?

808
00:40:35,453 --> 00:40:36,053
Speaker 15: How does it work?

809
00:40:36,293 --> 00:40:36,493
Speaker 2: Yeah?

810
00:40:36,613 --> 00:40:39,573
Speaker 15: Well, you know, we just put out the bat signal

811
00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:43,453
Speaker 15: when we you know, there was there was a desire

812
00:40:43,973 --> 00:40:46,093
Speaker 15: and the need for an element of Pe rock and

813
00:40:46,173 --> 00:40:49,813
Speaker 15: roll show. And then we all congregate, you know, in

814
00:40:49,933 --> 00:40:54,533
Speaker 15: our headquarters, which is located in the Elemento Pe Cave

815
00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:58,133
Speaker 15: in Kingsland, and you know, we get get the whole

816
00:40:58,173 --> 00:41:01,693
Speaker 15: band back together, and you know, we do a few rehearsals.

817
00:41:01,733 --> 00:41:04,453
Speaker 15: We sound like a terrible element and Pe covers band

818
00:41:04,813 --> 00:41:07,173
Speaker 15: for about the first two and then by the three,

819
00:41:07,293 --> 00:41:08,853
Speaker 15: you know, it just seems to come back.

820
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Speaker 4: Is that like?

821
00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:11,813
Speaker 2: Literally it? You guys just like you're seen out a

822
00:41:11,853 --> 00:41:13,973
Speaker 2: group message or whatever and you're like, yo, dude, I's

823
00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:14,733
Speaker 2: want to do some summer show.

824
00:41:14,813 --> 00:41:16,613
Speaker 15: Yeah've got a WhatsApp group, you know, We've got a

825
00:41:16,653 --> 00:41:18,893
Speaker 15: WhatsApp group that just we keep in touch, you know,

826
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Speaker 15: even when we're not doing shows, because we quite like

827
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:21,293
Speaker 15: each other.

828
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:25,973
Speaker 2: It feels like the summer shows thing has become al

829
00:41:25,973 --> 00:41:28,613
Speaker 2: Aminop's kind of modus operandi.

830
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Speaker 15: Yes, that's yeah, fear to say, probably every couple of years,

831
00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:36,533
Speaker 15: we you know, we you know, jump back on the horse. Yeah,

832
00:41:36,573 --> 00:41:38,573
Speaker 15: and we just really we just really love each other

833
00:41:38,693 --> 00:41:41,573
Speaker 15: and we love playing and we feel very grateful that

834
00:41:41,653 --> 00:41:44,053
Speaker 15: there is still people want to come and see us play.

835
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Speaker 15: So we feel very lucky all these years later.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm not going to put any ages on

837
00:41:49,453 --> 00:41:52,853
Speaker 2: anything right now, but it occurs to me that I

838
00:41:52,893 --> 00:41:53,973
Speaker 2: think it's twenty one.

839
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Speaker 15: Years since you guys, Yeah, at least that sounds about right, right. Yeah,

840
00:41:57,053 --> 00:41:59,053
Speaker 15: so twenty one years, we have a twenty one year old, like,

841
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:01,213
Speaker 15: you know, like a like a fully grown human.

842
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:07,293
Speaker 2: So do you feel nostalgic and do you think audiences

843
00:42:07,333 --> 00:42:11,493
Speaker 2: feel nostalgic? Like what role does nostalgia play and nostalgia?

844
00:42:11,613 --> 00:42:15,373
Speaker 15: Yeah, nostalgia is deep deep. We think we thank the

845
00:42:15,453 --> 00:42:19,813
Speaker 15: Good Lord for nostalgia, you know, because it enables us

846
00:42:19,853 --> 00:42:22,693
Speaker 15: to keep on doing what we do. And yeah, I

847
00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:25,413
Speaker 15: feel nostalgia and emotional when I play some of these

848
00:42:25,493 --> 00:42:30,213
Speaker 15: songs and just really grateful, really thankful that they've got

849
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Speaker 15: an audience all these years later, Like, you know, twenty

850
00:42:32,733 --> 00:42:34,493
Speaker 15: years later I wrote some of these songs when I

851
00:42:34,613 --> 00:42:37,493
Speaker 15: was a kid, you know, and so it's crazy to

852
00:42:37,573 --> 00:42:40,133
Speaker 15: be still singing them when I'm clearly not a kid.

853
00:42:40,413 --> 00:42:43,413
Speaker 2: Oh come on, but I'm younger. Well, the thing is, okay,

854
00:42:43,413 --> 00:42:47,733
Speaker 2: I'm speaking from personal experience here, like elementop was the

855
00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:51,733
Speaker 2: sound of my formative years at high school, right, like

856
00:42:52,013 --> 00:42:52,933
Speaker 2: the sound.

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Speaker 15: I remember, I remember you interviewing us in the early

858
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Speaker 15: days and.

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00:42:55,733 --> 00:43:00,253
Speaker 2: Way way back in the day, right, And it's it's

860
00:43:00,293 --> 00:43:04,973
Speaker 2: a curious kind of mentally exercise to imagine if Elementope

861
00:43:05,093 --> 00:43:07,853
Speaker 2: could exist in the same way to I reckon, because

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00:43:07,933 --> 00:43:12,733
Speaker 2: and here's my theory, I reckon rock music has like

863
00:43:13,493 --> 00:43:17,893
Speaker 2: is massively diminished in terms of music consumption compared to

864
00:43:17,973 --> 00:43:19,693
Speaker 2: where it used to be. Am, I do you think

865
00:43:19,693 --> 00:43:20,053
Speaker 2: that's fair.

866
00:43:20,773 --> 00:43:22,933
Speaker 15: I've got an interesting take on this, Jack, and I'm

867
00:43:22,973 --> 00:43:26,013
Speaker 15: glad you brought it up one hundred percent. We could

868
00:43:26,533 --> 00:43:30,773
Speaker 15: exist today and we would be Chapel Roone like I

869
00:43:31,053 --> 00:43:34,093
Speaker 15: love right, I love that music. Now, obviously I might

870
00:43:34,173 --> 00:43:36,133
Speaker 15: have to get Lannie to take of a singing duties,

871
00:43:36,413 --> 00:43:38,373
Speaker 15: but because she could do a fantastic job at that.

872
00:43:38,933 --> 00:43:43,333
Speaker 15: But in the dna of someone like Chapel Roone, yes,

873
00:43:43,533 --> 00:43:46,733
Speaker 15: and Olivia Rodrigo, you can hear that. We just love

874
00:43:46,813 --> 00:43:49,293
Speaker 15: that type of crap. So, like, I'm not even calling

875
00:43:49,333 --> 00:43:50,413
Speaker 15: it crapscuse my language.

876
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:53,453
Speaker 2: You just mean you love that, Like, yeah, I love it.

877
00:43:53,733 --> 00:43:56,013
Speaker 15: Yeah, And that is the client of music that we

878
00:43:56,093 --> 00:43:59,493
Speaker 15: would be making if ALEMP started in twenty twenty four,

879
00:43:59,533 --> 00:44:01,413
Speaker 15: I would. I know, it's a big call. I mean,

880
00:44:01,493 --> 00:44:03,893
Speaker 15: the two of the biggest artists in the entire planet.

881
00:44:03,973 --> 00:44:07,253
Speaker 15: But idea, you go have a listen, you know, yeah,

882
00:44:07,573 --> 00:44:10,573
Speaker 15: and you know, there is a lot of similarities in

883
00:44:10,693 --> 00:44:12,293
Speaker 15: my humble opinion, So so.

884
00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:14,213
Speaker 2: Talk to us about the similarities. How do you see

885
00:44:14,293 --> 00:44:16,293
Speaker 2: where's the where's the musical three? Just do you mean

886
00:44:16,373 --> 00:44:19,533
Speaker 2: in like the and the structure of H O.

887
00:44:19,693 --> 00:44:23,533
Speaker 15: T T O to go right, Like listen to Ohio

888
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:27,293
Speaker 15: and the Bridge of Ohio when we do the American chart,

889
00:44:27,613 --> 00:44:30,413
Speaker 15: where we got you know, V to the E to

890
00:44:30,573 --> 00:44:32,493
Speaker 15: the T to the old is how we're goals. We

891
00:44:32,573 --> 00:44:34,653
Speaker 15: got guns, we got cash, and we're going to make

892
00:44:34,733 --> 00:44:37,893
Speaker 15: you dance, you know, like I mean we were, I mean,

893
00:44:37,933 --> 00:44:39,853
Speaker 15: we just loved that type of stuff and we were

894
00:44:40,013 --> 00:44:43,573
Speaker 15: unashamedly pop in a time where actually pop music wasn't

895
00:44:43,613 --> 00:44:45,893
Speaker 15: actually it wasn't cool to like pop. Yeah, you know

896
00:44:46,013 --> 00:44:48,013
Speaker 15: in the early two thousands as much as it is now.

897
00:44:48,053 --> 00:44:50,933
Speaker 15: Now it's really accepted you can you can love pop

898
00:44:51,053 --> 00:44:54,133
Speaker 15: music and also like indie music, you know, and like

899
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:56,893
Speaker 15: hip hop. You know, there's these are flu of the

900
00:44:56,973 --> 00:44:58,173
Speaker 15: times we live in Jack.

901
00:44:58,453 --> 00:45:01,053
Speaker 2: I actually think I think you were like you were

902
00:45:01,293 --> 00:45:05,493
Speaker 2: you are, I should say, like very very much a

903
00:45:05,613 --> 00:45:08,573
Speaker 2: pioneer in terms of bucking some of those trends at

904
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:11,693
Speaker 2: the time. And another way in which you did it,

905
00:45:11,733 --> 00:45:13,813
Speaker 2: and I'm sure this has been raced with you before

906
00:45:14,373 --> 00:45:18,493
Speaker 2: is you were the first New Zealand artist I ever

907
00:45:18,573 --> 00:45:21,853
Speaker 2: heard singing with a New Zealand accent. Oh really okay

908
00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:23,773
Speaker 2: and embracing a New Zealand accent.

909
00:45:23,773 --> 00:45:25,613
Speaker 15: I've managed the hold on to it, I think you have.

910
00:45:26,173 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 2: Despite your despite your many years in New York, because

911
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:33,613
Speaker 2: especially with the kind of pop punk influence of men time, Yeah,

912
00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:36,133
Speaker 2: you know, the likes of some forty ones and one

913
00:45:36,173 --> 00:45:38,093
Speaker 2: eight two's and that kind of stuff. Right, it was

914
00:45:38,253 --> 00:45:41,613
Speaker 2: very much like I took her outd It was a

915
00:45:41,693 --> 00:45:44,133
Speaker 2: Friday night, you know, that kind of that that kind

916
00:45:44,173 --> 00:45:46,213
Speaker 2: of accent, and I remember listening to you and thinking,

917
00:45:46,293 --> 00:45:49,413
Speaker 2: man Davis just embracing his key witness here and it

918
00:45:49,493 --> 00:45:50,413
Speaker 2: was so refreshing.

919
00:45:50,773 --> 00:45:53,293
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, thanks, but also it was it was like,

920
00:45:54,053 --> 00:45:56,293
Speaker 15: you know, it was it was a necessity for me

921
00:45:56,413 --> 00:46:00,173
Speaker 15: because I wasn't like and I aren't a tradition traditional singer.

922
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:04,613
Speaker 15: I kind of I love melodies and I very much

923
00:46:05,093 --> 00:46:08,973
Speaker 15: I feel like I think in but I can't sing

924
00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:11,293
Speaker 15: like a normal singer would, and so I had to

925
00:46:11,413 --> 00:46:13,453
Speaker 15: just find this way, which is very much almost a

926
00:46:13,573 --> 00:46:20,653
Speaker 15: talking kind of type of singing, you know, you know,

927
00:46:20,813 --> 00:46:23,853
Speaker 15: and hence it has come out how I talk, I think,

928
00:46:23,893 --> 00:46:25,093
Speaker 15: which is pretty ki.

929
00:46:25,253 --> 00:46:28,613
Speaker 2: We tell me about New York. You've been there twelve years,

930
00:46:28,693 --> 00:46:30,933
Speaker 2: I have what do you love about?

931
00:46:30,973 --> 00:46:31,213
Speaker 4: Love it?

932
00:46:31,493 --> 00:46:34,813
Speaker 15: It's exciting city, you know, it's energetic, you know, but

933
00:46:35,013 --> 00:46:36,773
Speaker 15: it's also got a lot of good community. You know,

934
00:46:37,173 --> 00:46:39,173
Speaker 15: we had some really great times. He had Jack together

935
00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:43,093
Speaker 15: when you lived there. You know, it's just neighborly. And

936
00:46:43,373 --> 00:46:45,773
Speaker 15: I've gone through different phases of life. There been in

937
00:46:45,853 --> 00:46:49,693
Speaker 15: rock and roll bands over there, just been you know,

938
00:46:50,373 --> 00:46:52,133
Speaker 15: you know, care free and just had lots of time

939
00:46:52,173 --> 00:46:53,813
Speaker 15: on my hands. And now I'm a parent over there.

940
00:46:53,893 --> 00:46:56,613
Speaker 15: I've got two beautiful children in it. It's awesome and

941
00:46:56,653 --> 00:46:59,413
Speaker 15: there's there's a great New York city can sustain all

942
00:46:59,533 --> 00:47:01,813
Speaker 15: the different phases of life, and I dig it and

943
00:47:01,893 --> 00:47:04,053
Speaker 15: it's very convenient. But I love New Zealand and I

944
00:47:04,093 --> 00:47:06,453
Speaker 15: get to come back here all the time, so you know,

945
00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:06,813
Speaker 15: it's good.

946
00:47:07,013 --> 00:47:11,213
Speaker 2: So, as someone with young kids, what's it like comparing

947
00:47:11,293 --> 00:47:13,933
Speaker 2: your childhood here with your kid's life in Brooklyn.

948
00:47:14,093 --> 00:47:19,133
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, it's definitely it's definitely different. It's opposite. It's

949
00:47:19,173 --> 00:47:23,413
Speaker 15: real funny because my kid day park and my oldest was,

950
00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,533
Speaker 15: you know, I was saying. I was explained to him

951
00:47:26,533 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 15: that people really like coming to New York and it's like,

952
00:47:28,813 --> 00:47:31,613
Speaker 15: why it's so dirty, Like he just could of couldn't

953
00:47:31,653 --> 00:47:34,453
Speaker 15: understand that people would travel to New York as a

954
00:47:34,493 --> 00:47:37,933
Speaker 15: tourist destination because he's just like, so, it's so dirty

955
00:47:37,973 --> 00:47:40,293
Speaker 15: and there's rats every where. Like I'm like this, that

956
00:47:40,533 --> 00:47:42,613
Speaker 15: is true, but you know, it's got a few other

957
00:47:42,693 --> 00:47:44,973
Speaker 15: things going for it, so which you'll probably start to

958
00:47:45,053 --> 00:47:46,373
Speaker 15: really appreciate as you get older.

959
00:47:47,053 --> 00:47:49,973
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that the first time I went

960
00:47:50,013 --> 00:47:51,853
Speaker 2: to New York with my now wife, it was the

961
00:47:51,893 --> 00:47:53,613
Speaker 2: first time she'd ever been in the city, and the

962
00:47:53,733 --> 00:47:57,093
Speaker 2: things she wanted to see more than anything was a rat. Yeah, well,

963
00:47:57,133 --> 00:47:59,653
Speaker 2: seeing a rat crawling on the subway lines, was like

964
00:47:59,773 --> 00:48:02,253
Speaker 2: that was the that was the New York She kind

965
00:48:02,293 --> 00:48:04,613
Speaker 2: of yeah, that there's a lot of them. What's it

966
00:48:04,693 --> 00:48:06,293
Speaker 2: like from a creative perspective being in that.

967
00:48:06,413 --> 00:48:09,493
Speaker 15: Environment, Yeah, fantastic, Like I still go see a lot

968
00:48:09,573 --> 00:48:12,213
Speaker 15: of bands. There's you know, New York City has got

969
00:48:12,253 --> 00:48:17,693
Speaker 15: a really great, like tiered system of venues that lead

970
00:48:17,733 --> 00:48:19,693
Speaker 15: all the way up to Madison Square Garden and the

971
00:48:19,813 --> 00:48:23,813
Speaker 15: really big famous places. And so if you're touring, if

972
00:48:23,853 --> 00:48:27,733
Speaker 15: you're a musician in New York City, there's a really

973
00:48:27,813 --> 00:48:32,613
Speaker 15: good kind of infrastructure to start tiny at Pete's Candy Stores,

974
00:48:32,653 --> 00:48:35,693
Speaker 15: like yeah, fifteen, you know, it's packed that fifteen people,

975
00:48:35,813 --> 00:48:37,933
Speaker 15: you know, and then you just work, you work your

976
00:48:37,973 --> 00:48:42,213
Speaker 15: way up you know, Rockwood Music Hall, you know, Mercury Lounge,

977
00:48:42,933 --> 00:48:45,733
Speaker 15: Bowery Ballroom, you know, you know, bit by bit, you know,

978
00:48:46,093 --> 00:48:48,693
Speaker 15: it's it's a fantastic and you just play a lot,

979
00:48:48,813 --> 00:48:51,693
Speaker 15: you know, and so the scene is very very vibrant.

980
00:48:52,493 --> 00:48:54,333
Speaker 15: And Babies all Right is a place I go do

981
00:48:54,413 --> 00:48:57,573
Speaker 15: all the time in Williamsburg and see fantastic bands and

982
00:48:57,893 --> 00:49:01,293
Speaker 15: bands that have broken huge you know, like you know,

983
00:49:01,933 --> 00:49:07,973
Speaker 15: Juwe Lipa would play players play shows there. Yeah, yeah,

984
00:49:08,293 --> 00:49:11,453
Speaker 15: a lot of you know, a lot of really great bands.

985
00:49:11,573 --> 00:49:13,893
Speaker 15: Bo Daig is a really fantastic rock and roll band

986
00:49:13,933 --> 00:49:16,613
Speaker 15: that people should check out. They're starting to get some

987
00:49:16,733 --> 00:49:18,773
Speaker 15: heat in the UK, which is we're all the cool

988
00:49:18,813 --> 00:49:21,733
Speaker 15: bands start to your heat, you know on BBC Radio

989
00:49:21,893 --> 00:49:24,533
Speaker 15: six year say I'm not sure if you guys are

990
00:49:24,573 --> 00:49:25,813
Speaker 15: like competing or whatever.

991
00:49:25,973 --> 00:49:26,893
Speaker 2: I think we can accept that.

992
00:49:27,933 --> 00:49:31,893
Speaker 15: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, as credibly it's interesting and there's

993
00:49:31,933 --> 00:49:34,693
Speaker 15: the arts and blah blah blah. But New Zealand's fantastic too,

994
00:49:34,693 --> 00:49:37,253
Speaker 15: and there's a great scene happening here Vera Allen do

995
00:49:37,293 --> 00:49:40,493
Speaker 15: you know have you listened to her? Fantastic? I'm a

996
00:49:40,493 --> 00:49:41,253
Speaker 15: big big fan.

997
00:49:41,573 --> 00:49:44,013
Speaker 2: Oh nice. Well you're back for a little bit of time.

998
00:49:44,053 --> 00:49:45,973
Speaker 2: You're here for the Kiwi summer. Do you think do

999
00:49:46,133 --> 00:49:48,373
Speaker 2: I ask you're ever gonna be back permanently or yeah?

1000
00:49:48,373 --> 00:49:52,333
Speaker 15: One, no, just you know, just it's perpetually a couple

1001
00:49:52,333 --> 00:49:52,853
Speaker 15: of years away.

1002
00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:54,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice? Tell us about the show. Then you're playing

1003
00:49:54,773 --> 00:49:55,533
Speaker 2: with them and Alps.

1004
00:49:55,773 --> 00:49:59,173
Speaker 15: New Year's Eve? Oh yeah, apprecire, yeah, no pressure.

1005
00:49:58,973 --> 00:50:01,453
Speaker 2: It'd be so much fun. Have you been the Moles before?

1006
00:50:01,533 --> 00:50:01,933
Speaker 15: I haven't?

1007
00:50:02,093 --> 00:50:03,013
Speaker 2: Oh how good?

1008
00:50:03,213 --> 00:50:03,373
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1009
00:50:03,413 --> 00:50:06,213
Speaker 2: I mean beautiful part of the country obviously down by Wanaka.

1010
00:50:06,453 --> 00:50:08,133
Speaker 2: And you tell us about the show. What's a plan.

1011
00:50:08,293 --> 00:50:13,413
Speaker 15: Yeah, planners to bring the rock and roll to early

1012
00:50:13,493 --> 00:50:18,293
Speaker 15: two thousands to mid to late two thousands, Kiwi Magic

1013
00:50:18,773 --> 00:50:20,853
Speaker 15: to the stage with our friends.

1014
00:50:20,933 --> 00:50:21,053
Speaker 16: You know.

1015
00:50:21,853 --> 00:50:25,293
Speaker 15: I've I saw Lime Cordial actually in New York. They're

1016
00:50:25,293 --> 00:50:29,333
Speaker 15: a fantastic band. Yeah, and shape Shifter, you know, Ada Ha.

1017
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:31,493
Speaker 15: I'm looking forward to seeing her. I used to work

1018
00:50:31,533 --> 00:50:33,693
Speaker 15: with her back in the day on Georgia Form. I

1019
00:50:33,693 --> 00:50:35,173
Speaker 15: don't know if I'm gonna say that, but this is

1020
00:50:35,213 --> 00:50:38,853
Speaker 15: early two thousands too, so yeah, I'm really excited and

1021
00:50:38,933 --> 00:50:41,493
Speaker 15: to get to get some of my drum and bass

1022
00:50:41,573 --> 00:50:44,173
Speaker 15: on Andy c I believe he is playing. Yeah, it's

1023
00:50:44,173 --> 00:50:46,693
Speaker 15: going to be really fun night. And we're actually going

1024
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:48,293
Speaker 15: down the night before, so we're going to be able

1025
00:50:48,293 --> 00:50:51,533
Speaker 15: to chill and you know, kind of enjoy ourselves as

1026
00:50:51,573 --> 00:50:53,093
Speaker 15: well as do our job.

1027
00:50:53,293 --> 00:50:55,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Hey, thank you so much for giving

1028
00:50:55,573 --> 00:50:57,653
Speaker 2: us your time. Welcome home, great to have you here,

1029
00:50:58,013 --> 00:51:00,053
Speaker 2: have a wonderful summer, and all the very best for

1030
00:51:00,133 --> 00:51:00,773
Speaker 2: Rhythm and Alps.

1031
00:51:01,093 --> 00:51:03,013
Speaker 15: Thank you so much, Jack, appreciate your time.

1032
00:51:03,293 --> 00:51:06,173
Speaker 2: That is Dave Gibson from elementp all. The details of

1033
00:51:06,173 --> 00:51:08,933
Speaker 2: the show will of course be Atnewstalks HEADB dot co dot. Indeed,

1034
00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:11,973
Speaker 2: it's eighteen past ten Jack Team before eleven o'clock on

1035
00:51:12,053 --> 00:51:15,773
Speaker 2: News talks 'DB. We're continuing the Christmas preparation theme. Our

1036
00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:18,573
Speaker 2: Master of Wine has chosen his best buy for Christmas

1037
00:51:18,813 --> 00:51:21,573
Speaker 2: this week. So he's chosen a bubbly for Christmas that

1038
00:51:21,653 --> 00:51:25,053
Speaker 2: he reckons represents exceptional value. We will give you the

1039
00:51:25,093 --> 00:51:27,293
Speaker 2: details on that very shortly. Plus, we're in the garden.

1040
00:51:27,373 --> 00:51:32,373
Speaker 2: You've heard of November. What about No Movember No Movember.

1041
00:51:32,413 --> 00:51:35,373
Speaker 2: The difference between November and No Movember is that No

1042
00:51:35,613 --> 00:51:39,093
Speaker 2: Movember has a w on the mo. We will explain

1043
00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:41,453
Speaker 2: all very shortly. Next up your screen time picks for

1044
00:51:41,573 --> 00:51:42,773
Speaker 2: this week twenty past ten.

1045
00:51:43,613 --> 00:51:47,053
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style Saturday mornings with Jack

1046
00:51:47,133 --> 00:51:50,533
Speaker 1: tam and bpure dot co dot inzet for high quality

1047
00:51:50,613 --> 00:51:52,973
Speaker 1: supplements used TALKSB all.

1048
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:55,613
Speaker 2: Looking pretty good for the game starting on time the

1049
00:51:56,053 --> 00:51:58,653
Speaker 2: final Test, the third and final Test, the Dead Rubber,

1050
00:51:58,733 --> 00:52:02,173
Speaker 2: the Tim Suthy farewell for the black Caps versus England

1051
00:52:02,293 --> 00:52:05,013
Speaker 2: in Hamilton that's said to kick off at eleven o'clock

1052
00:52:05,053 --> 00:52:07,093
Speaker 2: this morning, So I will make sure one the game begins,

1053
00:52:07,173 --> 00:52:08,733
Speaker 2: I will give you all the details, let you know

1054
00:52:08,813 --> 00:52:11,413
Speaker 2: how the black Caps are fearing. Right now, it is

1055
00:52:11,453 --> 00:52:13,493
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes past ten on New Storks he'd b

1056
00:52:13,613 --> 00:52:16,493
Speaker 2: and Tara Ward is here with this week's screen time

1057
00:52:16,693 --> 00:52:20,493
Speaker 2: picks more than Kyona. Okay, we've got three shows to

1058
00:52:21,093 --> 00:52:23,093
Speaker 2: tell us about this morning, to recommend this morning. Let's

1059
00:52:23,093 --> 00:52:25,213
Speaker 2: begin with Fake, which is on three now.

1060
00:52:26,413 --> 00:52:26,613
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1061
00:52:26,653 --> 00:52:29,973
Speaker 17: This is a fantastic new psychological thriller and it's one

1062
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:32,333
Speaker 17: of those shows that is a real slow burn, but

1063
00:52:32,493 --> 00:52:34,893
Speaker 17: once it grabs you, it won't let you go. It's

1064
00:52:34,933 --> 00:52:37,693
Speaker 17: based on a true story and it's an Australian drama

1065
00:52:37,773 --> 00:52:40,773
Speaker 17: that stars Asher Ketty and she plays a magazine writer

1066
00:52:40,933 --> 00:52:45,333
Speaker 17: called Bertie. Bertie is almost fifty, she's single, and she

1067
00:52:45,493 --> 00:52:49,173
Speaker 17: reluctantly tries online dating and meets a farmer or a

1068
00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:52,293
Speaker 17: grazier as he calls himself, called Joe, who's played by

1069
00:52:52,493 --> 00:52:55,293
Speaker 17: the wonderful David Wedham. She doesn't like him at first,

1070
00:52:55,333 --> 00:52:57,813
Speaker 17: but she persuades herself to give things a go, and

1071
00:52:57,973 --> 00:53:01,093
Speaker 17: Joe is pretty smooth and he offers this lifestyle that

1072
00:53:01,173 --> 00:53:05,213
Speaker 17: Bertie really wants, but he's obviously hiding something. Bertie just

1073
00:53:05,253 --> 00:53:08,053
Speaker 17: doesn't know what's what. We're going to see this mystery

1074
00:53:08,133 --> 00:53:08,933
Speaker 17: unfold as the.

1075
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Speaker 11: Show goes on.

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Speaker 17: And as I said, I did find this slow to start,

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Speaker 17: and I wasn't sure if I could stick with it.

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Speaker 17: But in about forty five minutes into episode one, it

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Speaker 17: clicks and I think that slower pace of the show

1080
00:53:21,253 --> 00:53:25,613
Speaker 17: really matches the measured, controlled way that Joe slowly starts

1081
00:53:25,653 --> 00:53:29,013
Speaker 17: to mess with Bertie's mind. Joe is a romance scammer,

1082
00:53:29,453 --> 00:53:32,573
Speaker 17: and this shows how smart people can get sucked into

1083
00:53:32,613 --> 00:53:34,853
Speaker 17: those scams and how when you want something.

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Speaker 11: Really badly, you'll ignore all the red flags.

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Speaker 17: Asha Kitty, of course she start an offspring. She never

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00:53:40,893 --> 00:53:43,573
Speaker 17: gives a bad performance on TV. And David Wenham is

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00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 17: so good here as well. This is tense and a

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00:53:46,733 --> 00:53:47,573
Speaker 17: bit stressful to.

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Speaker 12: Watch, but so so good.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic sounds great. That is fake. That is on

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Speaker 2: three Now. Next up, a show's streaming on Netflix. Tell

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00:53:55,893 --> 00:53:57,213
Speaker 2: us about No Good Deed.

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00:53:58,573 --> 00:53:58,733
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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00:53:58,773 --> 00:54:02,333
Speaker 17: This is a new, dark American comedy that stars Lisa

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00:54:02,373 --> 00:54:07,413
Speaker 17: Kudro and Ray Romano, and it's part comedy, part part mystery.

1096
00:54:07,533 --> 00:54:10,893
Speaker 17: They play two homeowners, a couple of empty nesters who

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00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:15,493
Speaker 17: trying to sell their beautiful Spanish style house in Los Angeles,

1098
00:54:15,653 --> 00:54:18,333
Speaker 17: and there are three different couples who will do anything

1099
00:54:18,413 --> 00:54:20,573
Speaker 17: to buy it in the hope that this house will

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Speaker 17: solve all of their problems. But what Ray Romano and

1101
00:54:23,853 --> 00:54:26,693
Speaker 17: Lisa Cudro's characters have to do is hide the bad

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00:54:26,853 --> 00:54:29,973
Speaker 17: history of the house. Something terrible has happened there. There's

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00:54:30,013 --> 00:54:32,693
Speaker 17: a lot of secrets hidden away, and it's that idea

1104
00:54:32,853 --> 00:54:36,333
Speaker 17: that this dream house might actually be more of a nightmare.

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00:54:37,053 --> 00:54:39,653
Speaker 17: The show has a great ensemble cast. It's a bit

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00:54:39,813 --> 00:54:42,973
Speaker 17: like White Lotus or Knives Out, where every one of

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00:54:43,293 --> 00:54:46,533
Speaker 17: the different storylines is driven by talented actors and all

1108
00:54:46,573 --> 00:54:49,333
Speaker 17: those storylines are going to cross over at some point.

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00:54:49,893 --> 00:54:52,573
Speaker 17: It's written by the creator of Dead to Me, which

1110
00:54:52,653 --> 00:54:56,453
Speaker 17: is another great Netflix dark comedy. But I think Lisa

1111
00:54:56,493 --> 00:54:57,133
Speaker 17: Cudro is.

1112
00:54:57,173 --> 00:54:58,973
Speaker 11: The best thing about this She lifts the show.

1113
00:54:59,293 --> 00:55:01,413
Speaker 17: The story is a little bit uneven at times, it's

1114
00:55:01,413 --> 00:55:05,173
Speaker 17: a bit inconsistent, but it's very watchable, very bingeable. The

1115
00:55:05,253 --> 00:55:07,333
Speaker 17: episode's are only thirty minut long, so there's a great

1116
00:55:07,413 --> 00:55:08,573
Speaker 17: snappy pace to it as well.

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00:55:08,773 --> 00:55:11,533
Speaker 2: Excellent That's no good deed That's on Netflix and on

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Speaker 2: Disney Plus Elton John Never Too Late.

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00:55:15,733 --> 00:55:17,973
Speaker 17: Yeah, if you are an Alton fan or you grew

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Speaker 17: up with Elton John's music, this new Disney Plus documentary

1121
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:23,693
Speaker 17: is a muss watch. I think this is Never too Late.

1122
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 17: It's a documentary that looks back on Elton John's life

1123
00:55:27,053 --> 00:55:29,933
Speaker 17: and career, and it's sort of framed as a chat

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00:55:30,053 --> 00:55:33,413
Speaker 17: between two friends that takes place while Elton is on

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Speaker 17: his final tour through America in twenty twenty two, So

1126
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Speaker 17: you know, he's mindful that he's retiring. There's there's no

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Speaker 17: better time to look back on his life, and he's

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Speaker 17: called this the definitive documentary of his career. It is

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Speaker 17: co directed by his husband, David Furnish, and co directed,

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Speaker 17: co produced by Elton John's own film company, So you

1131
00:55:52,693 --> 00:55:54,933
Speaker 17: know it's not going to be a really critical expose.

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00:55:55,413 --> 00:55:58,133
Speaker 17: And in a lot of ways, there's nothing really new

1133
00:55:58,253 --> 00:56:02,093
Speaker 17: here or no sort of shocking unexpected revelations, But I

1134
00:56:02,173 --> 00:56:05,413
Speaker 17: don't know that that matters. This is a wonderful, sentimental,

1135
00:56:05,773 --> 00:56:07,933
Speaker 17: thoughtful back at an incredible life.

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Speaker 12: It focuses a lot on.

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00:56:09,973 --> 00:56:12,733
Speaker 17: The nineteen seventies when Elton was the biggest rock star

1138
00:56:12,813 --> 00:56:15,013
Speaker 17: in the world, and what that rise to fame did

1139
00:56:15,093 --> 00:56:18,133
Speaker 17: to him. You know, he talks about his addiction issues, you.

1140
00:56:18,213 --> 00:56:20,373
Speaker 11: See him chat with his kids today.

1141
00:56:20,693 --> 00:56:22,653
Speaker 17: You do see a lot of different sides to him,

1142
00:56:22,693 --> 00:56:25,653
Speaker 17: but it's just so much good music in this. This

1143
00:56:25,853 --> 00:56:28,693
Speaker 17: documentary really captures how brilliant Elton John is and it's

1144
00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:29,893
Speaker 17: such an entertaining watch.

1145
00:56:30,573 --> 00:56:31,653
Speaker 12: Great for Christmas as well.

1146
00:56:31,693 --> 00:56:35,053
Speaker 17: If you need something that lots of generations, different generations

1147
00:56:35,093 --> 00:56:36,933
Speaker 17: going to jow together, this is a really good choice.

1148
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Speaker 2: Is he quite introspective in it?

1149
00:56:38,933 --> 00:56:39,453
Speaker 3: Like how is he?

1150
00:56:39,893 --> 00:56:42,413
Speaker 2: You know, what's he like in it? Like modern Elton?

1151
00:56:43,413 --> 00:56:45,733
Speaker 17: He is quite introspective. It's sort of got a full

1152
00:56:45,813 --> 00:56:49,493
Speaker 17: circle moment because he's looking back on that nineteen seventy.

1153
00:56:49,253 --> 00:56:50,893
Speaker 12: Five Dodgers concert, which.

1154
00:56:50,693 --> 00:56:54,413
Speaker 2: Is what really explodes moment. Are yeah, right.

1155
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:57,573
Speaker 17: Totally, And that's where he's finishing his tour, So he's

1156
00:56:57,613 --> 00:57:00,213
Speaker 17: sort of at that full circle moment where he's looking back.

1157
00:57:01,173 --> 00:57:04,173
Speaker 17: You know, he talks about not being around for his

1158
00:57:04,373 --> 00:57:06,053
Speaker 17: kids and things like that, so he's kind of a

1159
00:57:06,133 --> 00:57:09,893
Speaker 17: weird that he's getting older and talks a little about

1160
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:14,413
Speaker 17: friendship with John Lennon and just just is very grateful,

1161
00:57:14,453 --> 00:57:16,293
Speaker 17: I think for all the life that he's lived and

1162
00:57:16,733 --> 00:57:18,853
Speaker 17: the amazing things that he's done.

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Speaker 2: Great. Okay, I'm looking forward to watching that. Thank you

1164
00:57:21,253 --> 00:57:24,133
Speaker 2: so much, Tara. That's a great recommendation. So that's Elton

1165
00:57:24,173 --> 00:57:26,653
Speaker 2: John Never too Late. That one's on Disney Plus No

1166
00:57:26,853 --> 00:57:28,973
Speaker 2: Good Deed is the one with Lisa Coudro and Ray

1167
00:57:29,053 --> 00:57:31,453
Speaker 2: Romana that's streaming on Netflix. And that first one, that

1168
00:57:31,653 --> 00:57:36,133
Speaker 2: fantastic thriller is called Fake and that is streaming on Three.

1169
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Speaker 1: Now getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News Talks, b.

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Speaker 2: Closure.

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Speaker 4: You believe you.

1173
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Speaker 6: Tubther more than you love.

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Speaker 1: Just love listeners for.

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Speaker 2: This is Cool A bit of a different sound. The

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Speaker 2: artist is Becca Amani so Becker uses music as a

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Speaker 2: means for finding a home anywhere. She was born in Tanzania,

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Speaker 2: her family moved to Astraia and her songwriting is very

1179
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Speaker 2: much influenced by that kind of moving world, from the

1180
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Speaker 2: music of her family's heritage through the Western pop indie

1181
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Speaker 2: artists she grew to love in Australia. She has all

1182
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Speaker 2: of these different kind of influences muy mashed together. She

1183
00:58:36,493 --> 00:58:39,493
Speaker 2: says that music feels like her destiny and recently she

1184
00:58:39,613 --> 00:58:42,373
Speaker 2: performed on stage with none other than cold Play. You

1185
00:58:42,453 --> 00:58:45,093
Speaker 2: might have heard of them during their time during this

1186
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Speaker 2: part of the world. Anyway, Becka has just released her

1187
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Speaker 2: debut album after a massive year of build up. Now

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Speaker 2: Music Review is going to be with us performer day

1189
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Speaker 2: to day with her thoughts on that. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: make sure we save a little bit of time at

1191
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Speaker 2: the end of the show. I always say that and

1192
00:58:58,853 --> 00:59:00,213
Speaker 2: then I do a very poor job of it. But

1193
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Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure that I save a bit

1194
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Speaker 2: of time because I don't know. This is a cool

1195
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Speaker 2: kind of refreshing sound. Eh, be really good. Listen to

1196
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Speaker 2: a bit of that before midday to day, before eleven o'clock,

1197
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Speaker 2: we're in the garden. We're going to explain what No

1198
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:15,813
Speaker 2: Movember actually means and how it can benefit things at

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Speaker 2: your place. Plus, our master of Wine will have his

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Speaker 2: top Christmas pick for us. Right now, it's twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the time questions to the newspeakers the mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 18: The Solicitor Generals reissued her controversial prosecution guidelines. These are

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00:59:32,453 --> 00:59:36,013
Speaker 18: the ones that urged prosecutors to think carefully about prosecutions,

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Speaker 18: especially when a person is marty and joining us now

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00:59:38,213 --> 00:59:39,653
Speaker 18: is the Solicitor General ownerg to goes.

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Speaker 15: Do you accept that you made.

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Speaker 2: A mistake with those guidelines.

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Speaker 19: I wasn't clear what I meant when I referred to

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Speaker 19: the fact of Marty' disprocaortionate representation in the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 16: If you didn't mean that prosecutors were supposed to look

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00:59:50,813 --> 00:59:52,853
Speaker 16: at any of these groups of people, including Marty, and

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00:59:52,933 --> 00:59:55,013
Speaker 16: go a little lighter on them because they're Marty or

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Speaker 16: any of these other groups, then what did you mean

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Speaker 16: You were unable to explain that to me.

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Speaker 19: I'm absolutely clear that what you were saying is the

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Speaker 19: very reason that we had to change it.

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Speaker 1: He the duplessy Ellen on the mic Hosking Breakfast Monday

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Speaker 1: from six am with the Jaguar f Base on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: HEADB teny five minutes to eleven on news Talks, he'd

1221
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Speaker 2: b just to keep you up to speed with things

1222
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Speaker 2: for the black Caps England third Test in Hamilton today

1223
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Speaker 2: kicking off at eleven o'clock. The English have won the

1224
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Speaker 2: toss that've put New Zealand into bat and Just so

1225
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Speaker 2: you know, Mitchell Santner, as expected, as replaced Smith in

1226
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Speaker 2: the starting lineup. Time to catch up with our Textbert

1227
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Speaker 2: Paul stenhouses with us this morning. Kilda, Good morning. So

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Speaker 2: General Motors, the massive American auto company, has decided it

1229
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Speaker 2: is getting out of the self driving taxi business.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, they're saying it's too competitive, and I think it's

1231
01:00:46,053 --> 01:00:49,573
Speaker 20: probably also too expensive because they have pumped billions of

1232
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Speaker 20: dollars into this business and now they're kind of saying

1233
01:00:52,373 --> 01:00:54,453
Speaker 20: that if you want to take it right to where

1234
01:00:54,453 --> 01:00:56,933
Speaker 20: it probably needs to go, you need to spend even

1235
01:00:57,013 --> 01:01:00,253
Speaker 20: more time, even more resources to scale it, and it's

1236
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Speaker 20: just kind of not worth it. And they've already got

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Speaker 20: people writing these things in Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, and in

1238
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Speaker 20: the San Francisco Bay area too. But they instead of

1239
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Speaker 20: going to get the engineering teams jack to focus on

1240
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Speaker 20: what is known in the industry as L three self

1241
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Speaker 20: driving technology, which is that sort of semi autonomous kind

1242
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Speaker 20: of driving right activity, so like at Theosler Basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 20: so if you're at slow speed, so in maybe like

1244
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Speaker 20: parking lots, you know, getting in and out of type spots,

1245
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Speaker 20: that type of thing, or on highways, that's considered L three.

1246
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Speaker 20: So they want your Chevies, they want your Cadillacs to

1247
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Speaker 20: be able to do that, and that's why they're now

1248
01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:40,733
Speaker 20: pivoting their resources to go and focus right in on

1249
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Speaker 20: your everyday kind of personal vehicle, your commercial vehicle, instead

1250
01:01:44,933 --> 01:01:46,613
Speaker 20: of trying to focus on these robotaxis.

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Speaker 2: I was in Phoenix a couple of or six weeks

1252
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Speaker 2: ago or so for in the build ups of the election,

1253
01:01:52,853 --> 01:01:56,013
Speaker 2: and I saw the robotaxis they were, and they were amazing,

1254
01:01:56,173 --> 01:01:59,573
Speaker 2: like to that, but it's incredible to I mean, incredible techology.

1255
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Speaker 2: But it did seem to me to be a bit

1256
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Speaker 2: of a novelty, do you know. Yeah, from a consumer perspective,

1257
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Speaker 2: someone needing to ride in a taxi, they cheaper, was

1258
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Speaker 2: it like than having a human being? Yeah, uddly enough.

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Speaker 20: I don't actually think they were, yeah, because I imagine

1260
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Speaker 20: they're trying to recoup their costs of the like they

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01:02:18,333 --> 01:02:20,733
Speaker 20: bought this company for a billion dollars. I think it

1262
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Speaker 20: was maybe close to ten years ago, maybe not even

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Speaker 20: if I'm trying to remember correctly, but they said they've

1264
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Speaker 20: spent like ten billion.

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Speaker 5: Dollars pumping money into this thing.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, so it's not.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's probably actually cheaper just to have a human

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Speaker 20: behind the wheel at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I suppose so okay. Very interesting. Now TikTok

1270
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Speaker 2: is supposed to be taken away from Google and Apple

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Speaker 2: in the US from next month, right January nineteenth. I

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Speaker 2: think it is what's going to happen. I know the

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01:02:48,653 --> 01:02:49,373
Speaker 2: countdown is on.

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Speaker 20: Well, the lawmakers who are on the China Committee have

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Speaker 20: basically said to Apple and to Google, get ready because

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Speaker 20: it's coming. They wrote to their CEOs and said, you

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Speaker 20: need to be ready to remove TikTok from the app stores.

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Speaker 20: And I did wonder what else will kind of happen

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Speaker 20: when this band takes place. Are we going to see

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Speaker 20: a China Great Firewall type scenario?

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Speaker 5: No, we're not.

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Speaker 20: If you already have the app downloaded, you're.

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Speaker 2: Okay kind of okay.

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Speaker 20: It's not going to have to be removed from your phone, right.

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Speaker 20: There's not going to be some like script the Apple

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Speaker 20: or Google runs that will pull.

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Speaker 2: It off your device.

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Speaker 20: It will continue to work, but I mean, TikTok is

1289
01:03:26,853 --> 01:03:30,813
Speaker 20: banned under this from providing ongoing support and maintenance, so

1290
01:03:31,293 --> 01:03:35,453
Speaker 20: eventually it's going to stop working. The only thing that

1291
01:03:35,613 --> 01:03:38,293
Speaker 20: is going to stop this now between now and jen

1292
01:03:38,453 --> 01:03:41,653
Speaker 20: nineteen is either if the Supreme Court takes it up

1293
01:03:41,813 --> 01:03:44,813
Speaker 20: and weighs in and acts in favor of TikTok, or

1294
01:03:44,853 --> 01:03:48,493
Speaker 20: if President Biden or Trump grants a ninety day extension

1295
01:03:48,573 --> 01:03:51,053
Speaker 20: to allow them to actually sell this because at the

1296
01:03:51,133 --> 01:03:55,453
Speaker 20: moment I say that they're not going to, TikTok is

1297
01:03:55,493 --> 01:03:57,693
Speaker 20: still branding itself. And I thought this was interesting in

1298
01:03:57,733 --> 01:04:01,693
Speaker 20: their latest release, one of the nation's most popular speech platforms.

1299
01:04:02,053 --> 01:04:03,613
Speaker 11: Do you have a feeling they're going to argue.

1300
01:04:03,413 --> 01:04:06,053
Speaker 20: With Supreme Court that there are the free speeches here?

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01:04:06,613 --> 01:04:06,693
Speaker 4: Ye?

1302
01:04:07,173 --> 01:04:10,333
Speaker 20: Seventy million monthly users in the United States, So this

1303
01:04:10,493 --> 01:04:13,653
Speaker 20: is this is a large app and people are going

1304
01:04:13,693 --> 01:04:16,213
Speaker 20: to feel this if their beloved TikTok goes away.

1305
01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:18,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's gonna be fascinating to watch it.

1306
01:04:19,013 --> 01:04:20,253
Speaker 2: It feels like the sort of thing that's going to

1307
01:04:20,293 --> 01:04:22,493
Speaker 2: go right to the line as well. Right, if it's

1308
01:04:22,533 --> 01:04:25,733
Speaker 2: on January nineteenth, it's going to be January eighteenth, eleven

1309
01:04:25,813 --> 01:04:28,293
Speaker 2: fifty nine pm when all of a sudden, some decision

1310
01:04:28,373 --> 01:04:29,413
Speaker 2: is made and we all have.

1311
01:04:29,573 --> 01:04:31,333
Speaker 11: What Mark Zuckerberg buys it for.

1312
01:04:31,893 --> 01:04:34,813
Speaker 2: Yeah you think, Yeah, Hey, Paul, while I've got you,

1313
01:04:34,933 --> 01:04:36,813
Speaker 2: did you see that news out of Google this week

1314
01:04:36,893 --> 01:04:38,093
Speaker 2: with their Willow chip.

1315
01:04:39,133 --> 01:04:42,093
Speaker 20: I almost wanted to talk about it because that I

1316
01:04:42,173 --> 01:04:44,893
Speaker 20: almost didn't talk about it because the number that I

1317
01:04:45,053 --> 01:04:49,573
Speaker 20: saw that Google had put how fast their quantum computing

1318
01:04:49,653 --> 01:04:51,973
Speaker 20: can now do the same task of today, had so

1319
01:04:52,133 --> 01:04:55,133
Speaker 20: many zeros Jack, I didn't even know how to pronounce it.

1320
01:04:55,253 --> 01:04:57,293
Speaker 2: Well, it sounded like it was a number so large

1321
01:04:57,333 --> 01:04:59,493
Speaker 2: that I thought this could just be a made up number, right,

1322
01:04:59,653 --> 01:05:03,093
Speaker 2: And it's so just to give people some context here,

1323
01:05:03,853 --> 01:05:05,613
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you need it out on it as well,

1324
01:05:05,653 --> 01:05:07,533
Speaker 2: because I've been trying. I've been trying to talk to

1325
01:05:07,613 --> 01:05:09,453
Speaker 2: people about it, and no one seems that engage, and

1326
01:05:09,493 --> 01:05:11,293
Speaker 2: I just think it's the most interesting thing. So basically

1327
01:05:11,373 --> 01:05:12,893
Speaker 2: there's the other reason why I didn't bring it up.

1328
01:05:15,093 --> 01:05:16,893
Speaker 2: Did you see the Google chip? And he was like,

1329
01:05:16,933 --> 01:05:19,173
Speaker 2: come on, we've got more important things right now. Anyway,

1330
01:05:19,173 --> 01:05:22,293
Speaker 2: they've got this new computer chip that is a quantum

1331
01:05:22,373 --> 01:05:26,613
Speaker 2: computing chip that takes five minutes to solve a problem

1332
01:05:26,733 --> 01:05:32,893
Speaker 2: that would currently take the world's fastest supercomputer ten septillion

1333
01:05:33,053 --> 01:05:40,373
Speaker 2: years to compete. So that's anyone understood. Eighteen, I'm just

1334
01:05:40,413 --> 01:05:43,333
Speaker 2: kidding them now twenty one, it's ten. It's ten with

1335
01:05:43,573 --> 01:05:46,773
Speaker 2: twenty four zeros after it. Yeah, that would take it

1336
01:05:46,853 --> 01:05:49,133
Speaker 2: that many years in five minutes.

1337
01:05:49,813 --> 01:05:52,493
Speaker 20: We struggle to go from like a million dollars to

1338
01:05:52,573 --> 01:05:55,173
Speaker 20: ten million dollars in our minds, yeah, one hundred million

1339
01:05:55,253 --> 01:05:57,093
Speaker 20: to a billion, and now we're up to what twenty

1340
01:05:57,173 --> 01:05:57,853
Speaker 20: four zeros.

1341
01:05:58,013 --> 01:06:00,493
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. But apparently to make it work, they've got

1342
01:06:00,573 --> 01:06:03,613
Speaker 2: to have this supercomputer, this this quantum computer where they

1343
01:06:03,693 --> 01:06:06,013
Speaker 2: have to I didn't realize this. They have to chill

1344
01:06:06,053 --> 01:06:08,173
Speaker 2: the heart of the computer to something like minus four

1345
01:06:08,253 --> 01:06:11,293
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty degrees celsius in order to make this work.

1346
01:06:11,933 --> 01:06:12,453
Speaker 5: Have you seen it.

1347
01:06:12,533 --> 01:06:14,413
Speaker 20: It's got like all these wires and stuff hanging out.

1348
01:06:14,533 --> 01:06:16,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks I mean, you expect a few wires,

1349
01:06:16,693 --> 01:06:17,413
Speaker 2: wouldn't you. Yeah.

1350
01:06:18,733 --> 01:06:18,933
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1351
01:06:18,933 --> 01:06:20,613
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm glad that you ned it out on that

1352
01:06:20,693 --> 01:06:23,213
Speaker 2: as well, because I was just fascinated by that when

1353
01:06:23,253 --> 01:06:26,093
Speaker 2: I saw what they're achieving with it. So watch the space,

1354
01:06:26,173 --> 01:06:28,773
Speaker 2: I suppose. Thank you so much, Paul. We will catch

1355
01:06:28,853 --> 01:06:31,213
Speaker 2: you again very soon. That is our textbook port and

1356
01:06:31,293 --> 01:06:33,933
Speaker 2: fellow nerd Paul Stenhouse with us this morning. Right now

1357
01:06:34,013 --> 01:06:36,413
Speaker 2: it is nineteen to eleven, our Master of Wine with

1358
01:06:36,533 --> 01:06:38,293
Speaker 2: his top Christmas buy for us.

1359
01:06:38,413 --> 01:06:40,453
Speaker 4: Next, a little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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01:06:40,613 --> 01:06:44,293
Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bpwart

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01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:48,133
Speaker 1: dot co dot Nz for high quality supplements used talk ZB.

1362
01:06:48,253 --> 01:06:51,093
Speaker 2: Seventeen to ten to eleven rather on new Stalks V

1363
01:06:51,213 --> 01:06:53,653
Speaker 2: and Bob Campbell, our Master of Wine, has chosen his

1364
01:06:53,853 --> 01:06:55,893
Speaker 2: best buy for us this week and it is his

1365
01:06:56,053 --> 01:06:59,533
Speaker 2: best buy for the silly season for Christmas, and so

1366
01:06:59,933 --> 01:07:02,813
Speaker 2: naturally he's chosen abubbly for us this morning. It is

1367
01:07:03,573 --> 01:07:07,613
Speaker 2: the number one family kuve Assemblage Couve Marlborough Method Traditional

1368
01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:11,653
Speaker 2: for thirty six dollars. Call Bob, good morning, Good morning Jack.

1369
01:07:11,773 --> 01:07:12,813
Speaker 2: So why did you go for this?

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01:07:14,133 --> 01:07:18,453
Speaker 14: Well, it's it's a special wine to celebrate Christmas, a

1371
01:07:18,493 --> 01:07:21,373
Speaker 14: special wine of the year, of course, and French winemaker

1372
01:07:21,533 --> 01:07:25,493
Speaker 14: Daniel Lebrun and his family pioneered method wine making in

1373
01:07:25,653 --> 01:07:29,773
Speaker 14: Marlborough and they've they've made some of New Zealand's very,

1374
01:07:29,933 --> 01:07:34,533
Speaker 14: very best ferment of sparkling wines. Always always the Kiwi wines,

1375
01:07:34,613 --> 01:07:37,493
Speaker 14: essentially Kiwi wines, but they always to me have a

1376
01:07:37,653 --> 01:07:42,573
Speaker 14: French slight French accent. Anyway, it's a blend of three

1377
01:07:42,613 --> 01:07:46,173
Speaker 14: great varieties pino nois, Chardonnay and pino muner, which is

1378
01:07:46,293 --> 01:07:49,013
Speaker 14: unusual in New Zealand, but they're all permitted in the

1379
01:07:49,133 --> 01:07:53,293
Speaker 14: Champagne region of France. It's been sellard for three to

1380
01:07:53,413 --> 01:07:55,093
Speaker 14: five years, so it's got a little bit of a

1381
01:07:55,133 --> 01:07:59,413
Speaker 14: little bit of bottle age there. And this is truly

1382
01:07:59,493 --> 01:08:04,253
Speaker 14: a stylish sparkler that offers really great value at the price.

1383
01:08:06,453 --> 01:08:09,213
Speaker 14: Why is it the perfect Christmas wine? Because everybody loves

1384
01:08:09,253 --> 01:08:12,933
Speaker 14: it and if it survives Christmas, you can always enjoy

1385
01:08:12,973 --> 01:08:14,653
Speaker 14: it in New Year's Eve. Very good.

1386
01:08:14,853 --> 01:08:15,733
Speaker 2: So what does it taste like?

1387
01:08:17,053 --> 01:08:20,053
Speaker 14: Well, it tastes to me, it tastes like champagne. It's

1388
01:08:20,053 --> 01:08:23,853
Speaker 14: probably heresy to say that, but it's got citrus, you know,

1389
01:08:24,053 --> 01:08:28,453
Speaker 14: have them hunting me down, But it was citrus apple

1390
01:08:28,533 --> 01:08:31,653
Speaker 14: and freshly baked baget crust. You know, it's got a

1391
01:08:31,693 --> 01:08:38,533
Speaker 14: seductively creamy texture that that lovely baget crust flavors really

1392
01:08:38,613 --> 01:08:39,933
Speaker 14: makes it very.

1393
01:08:39,973 --> 01:08:42,493
Speaker 2: Very Frenchy, as you say, so, thirty six dollars for

1394
01:08:42,613 --> 01:08:45,093
Speaker 2: a bottle of the number one Family couve. You think

1395
01:08:45,133 --> 01:08:45,853
Speaker 2: that's good venue?

1396
01:08:46,733 --> 01:08:50,893
Speaker 14: Yes I do. Yeah, it's the number one Family's least

1397
01:08:50,973 --> 01:08:55,573
Speaker 14: expensive wine. But to me, it's it's it's you know,

1398
01:08:55,653 --> 01:08:57,933
Speaker 14: it's one of my favorites. It's it's one third the

1399
01:08:57,973 --> 01:09:01,053
Speaker 14: price of good champagne, but it's certainly not one third

1400
01:09:01,133 --> 01:09:01,653
Speaker 14: the quality.

1401
01:09:01,973 --> 01:09:03,413
Speaker 2: Yeah nice, Where can you pick it up?

1402
01:09:04,733 --> 01:09:07,653
Speaker 14: I founded that whiskey and more and why Canno for

1403
01:09:07,973 --> 01:09:11,293
Speaker 14: thirty four ninety nine a little bit below average and

1404
01:09:12,293 --> 01:09:15,853
Speaker 14: the Hamilton Beer and Wine Company also thirty five or

1405
01:09:15,933 --> 01:09:17,093
Speaker 14: thirty five ninety.

1406
01:09:16,893 --> 01:09:20,053
Speaker 2: Nine aside from a Christmas turkey? What would you match

1407
01:09:20,093 --> 01:09:21,013
Speaker 2: it with, do you think, Bob?

1408
01:09:21,853 --> 01:09:25,853
Speaker 14: Well, the classic is freshly shucked oysters. I love oysters,

1409
01:09:25,973 --> 01:09:29,333
Speaker 14: so and there are a perfect match. But it's a

1410
01:09:29,373 --> 01:09:34,053
Speaker 14: fairly forgiving food wine. It's it would go with most seafoods.

1411
01:09:34,093 --> 01:09:40,933
Speaker 14: And you know, it's just it can be enjoyed without

1412
01:09:40,973 --> 01:09:43,253
Speaker 14: the complication of food too that way.

1413
01:09:43,453 --> 01:09:46,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it keep do you think, oh a

1414
01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:47,453
Speaker 2: few years of stored?

1415
01:09:47,493 --> 01:09:56,733
Speaker 14: Well, I quite like aged method. Don't forget to if

1416
01:09:56,773 --> 01:09:59,693
Speaker 14: you are going to keep it for later, don't forget

1417
01:09:59,773 --> 01:10:01,893
Speaker 14: to write the page of purchase on the bottle, because

1418
01:10:01,893 --> 01:10:04,693
Speaker 14: it is a non vintage wine, and so you you know,

1419
01:10:04,933 --> 01:10:08,773
Speaker 14: down the track you may not remember when you bought it.

1420
01:10:10,453 --> 01:10:13,733
Speaker 2: Yes, and if you end up putting another bottle in

1421
01:10:14,653 --> 01:10:17,493
Speaker 2: the calar again, next year you might find yourself getting

1422
01:10:17,493 --> 01:10:19,613
Speaker 2: a little bit confused over time. That's a very very

1423
01:10:19,653 --> 01:10:21,853
Speaker 2: good tip. Hey, thank you so much, Bob. Have a

1424
01:10:21,893 --> 01:10:25,693
Speaker 2: wonderful Christmas, won't you? There you too, We really appreciate

1425
01:10:25,773 --> 01:10:27,693
Speaker 2: all of your help and advice throughout the year. Bob

1426
01:10:27,733 --> 01:10:30,213
Speaker 2: Campbell our master of wine. There so he has chosen

1427
01:10:30,653 --> 01:10:34,973
Speaker 2: the number one family Kuve Assemblage Kuve from Marlborough. It's

1428
01:10:34,973 --> 01:10:37,373
Speaker 2: a method traditional for thirty six dollars. All of the

1429
01:10:37,453 --> 01:10:40,733
Speaker 2: details will be up on the news talks he'd b website.

1430
01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:43,453
Speaker 2: Right now, it is thirteen minutes to eleven.

1431
01:10:44,813 --> 01:10:48,253
Speaker 1: With still sharp get free accessories on selected still tools.

1432
01:10:48,333 --> 01:10:51,373
Speaker 2: A man in the gardener's roode climb past and he's

1433
01:10:51,453 --> 01:10:53,493
Speaker 2: here with us this morning, killeder.

1434
01:10:54,613 --> 01:10:56,573
Speaker 5: Jack. Is everything all right there?

1435
01:10:56,733 --> 01:10:59,853
Speaker 2: Everything is very well, thank you. The garden is absolutely thriving.

1436
01:10:59,933 --> 01:11:02,213
Speaker 2: It is that time of year, of course, when it's

1437
01:11:02,293 --> 01:11:04,453
Speaker 2: hot and went, which is kind of what you want.

1438
01:11:04,853 --> 01:11:08,693
Speaker 5: What you want, right, it's so dry here, it's unbelievable.

1439
01:11:08,733 --> 01:11:11,693
Speaker 2: It's well, that's true, that's true. Depending on what part

1440
01:11:11,693 --> 01:11:13,133
Speaker 2: of the country you're in right now, there are some

1441
01:11:13,493 --> 01:11:15,493
Speaker 2: very very dry parts. You hate to think what parts

1442
01:11:15,533 --> 01:11:17,133
Speaker 2: of Kenny going to be like and parts of north

1443
01:11:17,173 --> 01:11:19,493
Speaker 2: and they're going to be like six or eight weeks

1444
01:11:19,533 --> 01:11:19,893
Speaker 2: from now a.

1445
01:11:20,253 --> 01:11:21,293
Speaker 5: But that's right.

1446
01:11:21,453 --> 01:11:23,853
Speaker 9: Yeah, Julie was out on my back when I was

1447
01:11:23,933 --> 01:11:27,053
Speaker 9: using the chainsaw to cut some wood and she says,

1448
01:11:27,253 --> 01:11:29,613
Speaker 9: I wouldn't do that with this heat and this dryness.

1449
01:11:29,733 --> 01:11:32,293
Speaker 2: That's a good point, right, yeah, absolutely.

1450
01:11:32,693 --> 01:11:34,253
Speaker 5: And we've had a few fires around here.

1451
01:11:35,213 --> 01:11:37,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you certainly have. You've had one just up

1452
01:11:37,213 --> 01:11:38,493
Speaker 2: the road from you, right, yeah, and.

1453
01:11:39,053 --> 01:11:42,173
Speaker 5: On the road. Yeah, yeah, we could smell it see it, and.

1454
01:11:44,533 --> 01:11:46,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is it is really scary. I mean one

1455
01:11:46,413 --> 01:11:47,933
Speaker 2: of the things I suppose, well, on your side of

1456
01:11:47,933 --> 01:11:50,333
Speaker 2: the porthills there's a bit more vegetation, as is your

1457
01:11:50,373 --> 01:11:52,733
Speaker 2: head further east, there's not a whole lot for it

1458
01:11:52,853 --> 01:11:55,533
Speaker 2: to burn. That's sort of just the grass. But yeah, anyway,

1459
01:11:57,093 --> 01:11:59,413
Speaker 2: so what is no mow November?

1460
01:12:01,173 --> 01:12:03,853
Speaker 9: It's it's actually a saying that says, why do we

1461
01:12:04,013 --> 01:12:07,213
Speaker 9: always have to mow the lawns when you can do

1462
01:12:07,453 --> 01:12:08,493
Speaker 9: really cool things about it?

1463
01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:09,973
Speaker 5: And I'll give you an example of what you and

1464
01:12:10,053 --> 01:12:10,693
Speaker 5: I talked about.

1465
01:12:11,173 --> 01:12:13,173
Speaker 9: I would say, why not get rid of all your

1466
01:12:13,253 --> 01:12:17,493
Speaker 9: grass your lawn and plant wildflower and you don't have

1467
01:12:17,693 --> 01:12:21,133
Speaker 9: to mode. So that means you don't have this problem

1468
01:12:21,653 --> 01:12:23,773
Speaker 9: you got you're starting to get there now, you see,

1469
01:12:24,093 --> 01:12:26,533
Speaker 9: and and and so that's the idea. That was the

1470
01:12:26,733 --> 01:12:31,173
Speaker 9: original idea. So so no mo November, but starts us

1471
01:12:31,253 --> 01:12:34,253
Speaker 9: the October November. When you start the mode, lawns here

1472
01:12:34,653 --> 01:12:37,573
Speaker 9: and I always think, oh gosh, another week weekly thing

1473
01:12:37,653 --> 01:12:41,733
Speaker 9: to do, blah blah blah weekly. Anyway, Well, yeah, yeah,

1474
01:12:41,813 --> 01:12:44,133
Speaker 9: when you got good, when you get we've had really

1475
01:12:44,213 --> 01:12:47,573
Speaker 9: warm weather here and we had some really wet, wet springs,

1476
01:12:47,653 --> 01:12:48,693
Speaker 9: so it went quickly.

1477
01:12:49,573 --> 01:12:50,853
Speaker 2: You got to get the number two on it. You

1478
01:12:50,893 --> 01:12:53,213
Speaker 2: got a buzz cut there, Rode you know, gives low

1479
01:12:53,293 --> 01:12:54,053
Speaker 2: and then you'll be.

1480
01:12:55,653 --> 01:12:57,173
Speaker 5: Your sound like my hairdresser.

1481
01:12:57,493 --> 01:12:57,693
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1482
01:12:58,333 --> 01:12:59,933
Speaker 5: Anyway, so no mo November.

1483
01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:01,813
Speaker 9: So a couple of weeks ago I went to Tekapo

1484
01:13:02,133 --> 01:13:04,813
Speaker 9: Primary School where I was going to do a little

1485
01:13:04,853 --> 01:13:07,933
Speaker 9: project with him and and it was they loved it

1486
01:13:08,053 --> 01:13:10,573
Speaker 9: because of course always bugs with me and things like that.

1487
01:13:10,693 --> 01:13:13,493
Speaker 9: But we were going to talk about bumblebees, and so

1488
01:13:13,693 --> 01:13:16,013
Speaker 9: I told these kids this is actually a lovely story,

1489
01:13:16,053 --> 01:13:17,573
Speaker 9: by the way, Jack. I told the kids that there

1490
01:13:17,613 --> 01:13:20,813
Speaker 9: were four different species of bumblebees in New Zealand, all

1491
01:13:21,213 --> 01:13:24,213
Speaker 9: imported from the UK, by the way, and they all

1492
01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:26,493
Speaker 9: have different tongue lengths.

1493
01:13:26,813 --> 01:13:28,773
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there you go.

1494
01:13:28,893 --> 01:13:31,053
Speaker 9: And the reason, of course is that, yeah, yeah, that

1495
01:13:31,253 --> 01:13:34,853
Speaker 9: some flowers have got very deep flowers if you like

1496
01:13:34,933 --> 01:13:37,693
Speaker 9: other shallow flowers, and that means you need different tongue

1497
01:13:37,773 --> 01:13:38,773
Speaker 9: lengths to pollinate them.

1498
01:13:39,093 --> 01:13:40,253
Speaker 5: See that's the original thing.

1499
01:13:40,293 --> 01:13:43,533
Speaker 9: Makes sense, Yeah, it does make sense. Three of those

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01:13:43,533 --> 01:13:45,773
Speaker 9: species are quite common in New Zealand. The fourth one

1501
01:13:45,893 --> 01:13:50,533
Speaker 9: is not so common, and that's the one that lives

1502
01:13:50,973 --> 01:13:53,173
Speaker 9: near It's called the short haired bumblebee by the way.

1503
01:13:53,413 --> 01:13:55,573
Speaker 9: That is the one that lives in the mcgenzie country

1504
01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:59,373
Speaker 9: near Techapole. And I told them that thing is actually

1505
01:14:00,013 --> 01:14:02,773
Speaker 9: not that common at the moment. So what we should

1506
01:14:02,813 --> 01:14:05,333
Speaker 9: do is take a bit of the school grounds off.

1507
01:14:07,053 --> 01:14:07,573
Speaker 4: Get rid of it.

1508
01:14:08,053 --> 01:14:10,373
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, get rid of that stuff, and then we

1509
01:14:10,573 --> 01:14:14,653
Speaker 9: plant the right plants for this particular bumblebee. And they said, oh,

1510
01:14:14,693 --> 01:14:16,893
Speaker 9: that's a great idea. I said, I've got something else

1511
01:14:16,933 --> 01:14:19,893
Speaker 9: to tell you. This thing came from the UK, where

1512
01:14:19,973 --> 01:14:21,573
Speaker 9: it is now extinct.

1513
01:14:22,613 --> 01:14:23,933
Speaker 2: Wow is that right?

1514
01:14:24,773 --> 01:14:27,733
Speaker 5: Yes, So what do you think.

1515
01:14:27,973 --> 01:14:30,213
Speaker 9: If we can grow a heck of a lot of

1516
01:14:30,293 --> 01:14:35,533
Speaker 9: these longhw bumble bee? Yes, we can then send fertile

1517
01:14:35,613 --> 01:14:38,493
Speaker 9: queens back to the UK, which which failed in the

1518
01:14:38,573 --> 01:14:41,413
Speaker 9: past apparently, but I wasn't there, it didn't matter, and

1519
01:14:41,493 --> 01:14:44,213
Speaker 9: then we can help the UK the English people from

1520
01:14:44,253 --> 01:14:45,453
Speaker 9: getting their own bubble bee back.

1521
01:14:45,613 --> 01:14:48,133
Speaker 5: They thought it was amazing. So they started this, what

1522
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:52,173
Speaker 5: do we need? What plants do we need? Can we

1523
01:14:52,413 --> 01:14:56,093
Speaker 5: raise the population density in the Techapo area? Can we

1524
01:14:56,213 --> 01:14:56,813
Speaker 5: then ship them?

1525
01:14:56,853 --> 01:14:59,133
Speaker 9: Can we do all the Of course we can, so

1526
01:14:59,453 --> 01:15:01,853
Speaker 9: we started that stuff off. So I rang some of

1527
01:15:01,973 --> 01:15:05,533
Speaker 9: my mates from King Seeds and the Bumblebee Conservation Trust

1528
01:15:05,973 --> 01:15:09,653
Speaker 9: and and Jeff Brunsom from the Wildflower World that sort

1529
01:15:09,693 --> 01:15:11,933
Speaker 9: of stuff, and said what can we do here? And

1530
01:15:12,133 --> 01:15:18,013
Speaker 9: suddenly it all happened. These kids were planting stuff everywhere. Zomba,

1531
01:15:18,173 --> 01:15:21,653
Speaker 9: which is a very famous company that actually lets you

1532
01:15:22,293 --> 01:15:26,173
Speaker 9: get some bee hives if you like in your area.

1533
01:15:26,413 --> 01:15:29,253
Speaker 9: For instance, in my tunnel house. They wanted to send

1534
01:15:29,293 --> 01:15:31,693
Speaker 9: them a beehive, and all that stuff happened. So they

1535
01:15:31,813 --> 01:15:34,453
Speaker 9: learned how to get rid of weeds, fertilized the soil,

1536
01:15:34,813 --> 01:15:36,533
Speaker 9: They know how to sow the seeds, they know what

1537
01:15:36,653 --> 01:15:40,253
Speaker 9: to do, and basically they are on their way. But

1538
01:15:40,413 --> 01:15:44,053
Speaker 9: the coolest thing is they even signed up during the

1539
01:15:44,093 --> 01:15:46,973
Speaker 9: school holidays to have a roster for watering in.

1540
01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:51,413
Speaker 5: The still ground. So Simon and Maria and everybody else

1541
01:15:51,693 --> 01:15:54,933
Speaker 5: basically on holiday. They're so tough that the kids are

1542
01:15:55,013 --> 01:15:55,333
Speaker 5: doing it.

1543
01:15:55,653 --> 01:15:58,213
Speaker 2: So just for people who haven't seen the short heead ones,

1544
01:15:58,253 --> 01:16:00,773
Speaker 2: how different do they look compared to the bubble as

1545
01:16:00,773 --> 01:16:02,013
Speaker 2: you see in other parts of the country.

1546
01:16:02,693 --> 01:16:05,133
Speaker 9: Well, we've got three different species, so we've got these

1547
01:16:05,173 --> 01:16:07,733
Speaker 9: big so yeah, three or four four out.

1548
01:16:07,773 --> 01:16:08,813
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the fourth one.

1549
01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:12,413
Speaker 9: It is quite dark in color and it is smaller

1550
01:16:12,493 --> 01:16:16,173
Speaker 9: than the others basically, but they are still there basically

1551
01:16:16,533 --> 01:16:18,973
Speaker 9: on all these flowers that they like. That they like

1552
01:16:19,013 --> 01:16:21,293
Speaker 9: all these flows in the in the mcginsey country, that's

1553
01:16:21,333 --> 01:16:21,853
Speaker 9: where they are.

1554
01:16:22,413 --> 01:16:22,613
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1555
01:16:22,773 --> 01:16:25,973
Speaker 2: They beautiful, aren't they. I think bumblebees are underrated somehow.

1556
01:16:26,013 --> 01:16:29,093
Speaker 2: They're just absolutely gorgeous creatures. I reckon they are. Yeah.

1557
01:16:29,213 --> 01:16:31,333
Speaker 9: If you ever, if you ever grow tomatos, you need

1558
01:16:31,413 --> 01:16:34,013
Speaker 9: that big bumblebee by the way, Jack, because it vibrates

1559
01:16:34,533 --> 01:16:38,133
Speaker 9: when it lands and that takes the spores and they're

1560
01:16:38,173 --> 01:16:40,573
Speaker 9: sorry that the pollen from one flower to the next,

1561
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:42,013
Speaker 9: that's how that works.

1562
01:16:42,213 --> 01:16:46,733
Speaker 2: Very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my tomatoes are looking very

1563
01:16:46,733 --> 01:16:49,213
Speaker 2: good already. I mean it's an early day. Yeah, no,

1564
01:16:49,253 --> 01:16:51,293
Speaker 2: they're looking good, and so two of my walking onions.

1565
01:16:51,293 --> 01:16:54,573
Speaker 2: So thank you very much for those, very much enjoying those.

1566
01:16:54,613 --> 01:16:56,453
Speaker 2: They've been smashed over the last couple of weeks in

1567
01:16:56,493 --> 01:16:59,053
Speaker 2: my place. So yeah, we very much appreciate that little

1568
01:16:59,093 --> 01:17:01,493
Speaker 2: drop off from you. Here's a cheeky line just to

1569
01:17:01,533 --> 01:17:04,573
Speaker 2: close you out for the morning. Road Jack. Isn't planting

1570
01:17:04,653 --> 01:17:08,453
Speaker 2: wildflowers a contradictions. If they're planted, technically they're not wild.

1571
01:17:09,493 --> 01:17:11,413
Speaker 5: Yes, and that's why they called wild flowers.

1572
01:17:11,493 --> 01:17:11,853
Speaker 10: I love it.

1573
01:17:12,053 --> 01:17:14,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you've heard that one before. Hey, thank you,

1574
01:17:15,093 --> 01:17:17,213
Speaker 2: thank you so much. You have a wonderful weekend, and

1575
01:17:17,293 --> 01:17:18,813
Speaker 2: we will catch again very soon.

1576
01:17:18,893 --> 01:17:21,453
Speaker 5: Okay, absolutely, I'll be there.

1577
01:17:21,813 --> 01:17:24,573
Speaker 2: Rude climb past our man in the garden. There After

1578
01:17:24,613 --> 01:17:27,413
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock on news Talk zed B, we are continuing

1579
01:17:27,533 --> 01:17:32,653
Speaker 2: the theme of huge name iconic musicians reflecting on their

1580
01:17:32,693 --> 01:17:35,213
Speaker 2: life and achievements this morning. So before ten o'clock we

1581
01:17:35,333 --> 01:17:38,093
Speaker 2: were telling you about the new film based on Robbie

1582
01:17:38,093 --> 01:17:43,413
Speaker 2: Williams's life, that's the one with the Chimpanzee. After after

1583
01:17:43,533 --> 01:17:47,253
Speaker 2: ten and that screen time segment this morning, we recommended

1584
01:17:47,293 --> 01:17:50,613
Speaker 2: the new show with Elton John on Disney plus him

1585
01:17:50,653 --> 01:17:53,813
Speaker 2: reflecting on his life. And then after eleven this morning,

1586
01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:55,853
Speaker 2: our book reviewer is in and she wants to tell

1587
01:17:55,933 --> 01:17:59,053
Speaker 2: us about a book in which Share reflects on her life.

1588
01:17:59,093 --> 01:18:01,133
Speaker 2: It's a two part memoir, so we'd give you all

1589
01:18:01,173 --> 01:18:04,093
Speaker 2: the details on Share the memoir very shortly, as well

1590
01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:07,613
Speaker 2: as that, a few street treats in Eden and new

1591
01:18:07,733 --> 01:18:11,333
Speaker 2: music from this amazing Australian musician Becker Amani who blends

1592
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Speaker 2: all sorts of different styles together. It is just coming

1593
01:18:14,373 --> 01:18:16,693
Speaker 2: up to eleven o'clock a Saturday morning, ob Jac Tame.

1594
01:18:17,133 --> 01:18:18,453
Speaker 2: This is news Dog's EDB.

1595
01:18:23,973 --> 01:18:27,693
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Daye keeping the conversation going through

1596
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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot cot dot In is here

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Speaker 2: Mo Man or if you're just joining us this morning

1599
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Speaker 2: on News Talks dB, it is my Pleasia to be

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01:18:59,093 --> 01:19:02,013
Speaker 2: with you. This is my last show, our last Saturday

1601
01:19:02,093 --> 01:19:05,413
Speaker 2: together for twenty twenty four. Just to keep you up

1602
01:19:05,453 --> 01:19:08,693
Speaker 2: to speed with things in Hamilton. The black Cap is

1603
01:19:08,733 --> 01:19:12,453
Speaker 2: currently nine for none off almost two overs the hecks.

1604
01:19:12,533 --> 01:19:14,533
Speaker 2: You haven't hit any runs yet, so all of those

1605
01:19:14,613 --> 01:19:18,093
Speaker 2: runs have come from either buys or league buys or

1606
01:19:18,293 --> 01:19:23,373
Speaker 2: no balls, various extras. I'll make sure that I update

1607
01:19:23,413 --> 01:19:27,613
Speaker 2: you with any big developments as that game continues. The

1608
01:19:27,693 --> 01:19:29,573
Speaker 2: third and final Test God. I love Test Crockett. I

1609
01:19:29,613 --> 01:19:33,173
Speaker 2: love Test Cricket so much. I feel very sad that

1610
01:19:33,253 --> 01:19:34,533
Speaker 2: this is the last time we're going to see the

1611
01:19:34,533 --> 01:19:36,733
Speaker 2: black Caps playing Test cricket this summer. But in mind

1612
01:19:36,973 --> 01:19:40,413
Speaker 2: now before midday on News Talks, he'd be We're gonna

1613
01:19:40,413 --> 01:19:43,413
Speaker 2: play you this new music from this Australian artist, Becka Rmani.

1614
01:19:43,533 --> 01:19:47,173
Speaker 2: She is really interesting, has a really interesting sound, so

1615
01:19:47,373 --> 01:19:49,893
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to coming up bit of time so

1616
01:19:49,973 --> 01:19:53,053
Speaker 2: we can listen to that. Plus, Cher has just released

1617
01:19:53,093 --> 01:19:55,653
Speaker 2: the first part of her two part memoir, which could

1618
01:19:55,653 --> 01:19:57,893
Speaker 2: be a great gift for the Sheer fans in your

1619
01:19:57,973 --> 01:20:00,133
Speaker 2: life heading into Christmas. Right now, it's eight minutes past

1620
01:20:00,173 --> 01:20:04,533
Speaker 2: eleven Jack Team and a fascinating call from Age Concern

1621
01:20:04,693 --> 01:20:08,653
Speaker 2: New Zealand last month call for a new ministry of

1622
01:20:08,853 --> 01:20:11,333
Speaker 2: loneliness to be established. And you might think this is

1623
01:20:11,333 --> 01:20:13,293
Speaker 2: a funny time of year to be talking about loneliness,

1624
01:20:13,333 --> 01:20:16,173
Speaker 2: but of course the Christmas season comes with all sorts

1625
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:20,453
Speaker 2: of mixed up emotions for lots of new Zealanders. Dougle

1626
01:20:20,493 --> 01:20:23,053
Speaker 2: Sutherland is a kind of course psychologist with Umbrella well

1627
01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:26,733
Speaker 2: Being and he's with us this morning. Kilder, Dougal, Kilder Jack.

1628
01:20:26,853 --> 01:20:28,853
Speaker 4: Nice to talk to you of them, Yeah, nice.

1629
01:20:28,733 --> 01:20:30,853
Speaker 2: To be speaking with you. So just talk us through

1630
01:20:31,053 --> 01:20:34,693
Speaker 2: why Age Concern thinks that loneliness is such a big

1631
01:20:34,773 --> 01:20:36,813
Speaker 2: issue in New Zealand and maybe why it's a bit

1632
01:20:36,813 --> 01:20:38,213
Speaker 2: of an underrated problem.

1633
01:20:39,813 --> 01:20:40,013
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1634
01:20:40,093 --> 01:20:43,093
Speaker 10: Look, I think it's underrated because it's so hidden, isn't

1635
01:20:43,093 --> 01:20:45,973
Speaker 10: it that if you're lonely, by definition, you're not really

1636
01:20:46,333 --> 01:20:48,693
Speaker 10: having contact with other people, so other people don't know

1637
01:20:48,813 --> 01:20:52,733
Speaker 10: about it. And the Age Concern survey found that amongst

1638
01:20:52,773 --> 01:20:56,573
Speaker 10: older people that they surveyed, almost sixty percent said that

1639
01:20:56,653 --> 01:21:00,773
Speaker 10: they had felt lonely or isolated recently, and even more sadly,

1640
01:21:00,893 --> 01:21:03,253
Speaker 10: a third of the people that they surveyed said that

1641
01:21:03,333 --> 01:21:07,933
Speaker 10: they felt like that most of the time. And loneliness

1642
01:21:08,973 --> 01:21:11,893
Speaker 10: is estimated to have as much impact on our physical

1643
01:21:12,373 --> 01:21:16,093
Speaker 10: health in our life as things like smoking and obesity.

1644
01:21:16,213 --> 01:21:19,013
Speaker 10: So it's a real it's a real health problem. It's

1645
01:21:19,053 --> 01:21:21,293
Speaker 10: not just something that oh, well, people get a bit

1646
01:21:21,373 --> 01:21:24,413
Speaker 10: lonely sometimes, don't They actually has a massive impact on

1647
01:21:24,533 --> 01:21:25,333
Speaker 10: people's lives.

1648
01:21:25,733 --> 01:21:29,053
Speaker 2: That's extraordinary, right, Like a similar impact on our health

1649
01:21:29,133 --> 01:21:32,533
Speaker 2: is smoking in obesity. I mean that that really is.

1650
01:21:32,653 --> 01:21:36,253
Speaker 2: It just goes to show we are pack animals. So

1651
01:21:37,733 --> 01:21:42,573
Speaker 2: what do you think has has contributed to those really

1652
01:21:42,693 --> 01:21:45,293
Speaker 2: high numbers, those really high levels of loneliness. Is that

1653
01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:46,413
Speaker 2: the sort of thing we can just put it on

1654
01:21:46,533 --> 01:21:48,613
Speaker 2: the pandemic or has it been brewing for some time?

1655
01:21:49,733 --> 01:21:52,573
Speaker 10: Well, look, I think you know, there's a whole multitude

1656
01:21:52,573 --> 01:21:55,613
Speaker 10: of things. Certainly that there's the impact of the pandemic

1657
01:21:56,293 --> 01:22:00,533
Speaker 10: and losing contact with people during that time and maybe

1658
01:22:01,413 --> 01:22:05,573
Speaker 10: you know, maybe having difficulty re establishing those links. We've

1659
01:22:05,613 --> 01:22:09,413
Speaker 10: got an aging population, of course, so as people get older,

1660
01:22:10,533 --> 01:22:12,693
Speaker 10: you know that they do tend to become a bit

1661
01:22:12,813 --> 01:22:16,733
Speaker 10: more that you know, naturally people lose their partners or

1662
01:22:16,853 --> 01:22:20,693
Speaker 10: friends through passing away. There's other things though, too, like

1663
01:22:20,813 --> 01:22:22,493
Speaker 10: you know, the cost of living and the cost of

1664
01:22:22,573 --> 01:22:25,213
Speaker 10: healthcare at the moment makes it can make it difficult

1665
01:22:25,293 --> 01:22:28,293
Speaker 10: for people to actually get out of the house if

1666
01:22:28,453 --> 01:22:30,573
Speaker 10: they might not be able to afford to travel or

1667
01:22:30,653 --> 01:22:33,693
Speaker 10: to go out, or their health problems might limit their

1668
01:22:33,773 --> 01:22:36,333
Speaker 10: ability to actually get out and about in the community.

1669
01:22:36,533 --> 01:22:41,293
Speaker 10: So there's a whole host of factors, and you know,

1670
01:22:41,493 --> 01:22:45,213
Speaker 10: we've got this aging population and predicted this is only

1671
01:22:45,293 --> 01:22:47,373
Speaker 10: going to get worse really unless we do something about it.

1672
01:22:47,653 --> 01:22:50,533
Speaker 2: It's interesting too, right, Some people might think it seems

1673
01:22:50,733 --> 01:22:53,773
Speaker 2: like a bit extreme to have a Minister for loneliness

1674
01:22:53,853 --> 01:22:56,493
Speaker 2: or a ministry of loneliness, but in the UK and

1675
01:22:56,613 --> 01:23:00,133
Speaker 2: Japan they've got ministers for loneliness. In Australia they're making

1676
01:23:00,173 --> 01:23:00,733
Speaker 2: some steps too.

1677
01:23:01,853 --> 01:23:05,213
Speaker 10: Yeah, they had Australia's i think, announced a Commission of

1678
01:23:05,293 --> 01:23:07,853
Speaker 10: inquiry or parliamentary commission I think into looking at it.

1679
01:23:07,933 --> 01:23:11,093
Speaker 10: And the UK had a Minister of Loneliness I think

1680
01:23:11,093 --> 01:23:13,253
Speaker 10: they've had one for about five years or so, and

1681
01:23:13,693 --> 01:23:16,613
Speaker 10: the same in Japan. And it's like having a minister

1682
01:23:16,733 --> 01:23:20,013
Speaker 10: in itself doesn't necessarily change anything, but I think what

1683
01:23:20,133 --> 01:23:23,053
Speaker 10: it does do is it sort of highlights the area

1684
01:23:23,613 --> 01:23:28,773
Speaker 10: and focuses government, you know, government attention and finances into

1685
01:23:28,853 --> 01:23:30,933
Speaker 10: those areas. If you've got a bit like we've seen

1686
01:23:30,973 --> 01:23:33,773
Speaker 10: with you know, the Ministry of Mental Health here in

1687
01:23:33,853 --> 01:23:36,773
Speaker 10: New Zealand, so I think it's certainly it's one of

1688
01:23:36,813 --> 01:23:40,053
Speaker 10: those things that can really spotlight the issue and bring

1689
01:23:40,133 --> 01:23:42,773
Speaker 10: it into the public awareness, which I think is really important,

1690
01:23:42,933 --> 01:23:45,293
Speaker 10: especially at the moment right especially around Christmas stuff, and

1691
01:23:45,373 --> 01:23:49,173
Speaker 10: it's around you know, catching up with family and that's

1692
01:23:49,213 --> 01:23:51,853
Speaker 10: all great, but of course some people that might not

1693
01:23:51,973 --> 01:23:55,093
Speaker 10: be the case for everybody. And I was thinking that

1694
01:23:55,293 --> 01:23:57,693
Speaker 10: what a great Christmas gift it could be this year.

1695
01:23:58,133 --> 01:24:00,413
Speaker 10: I actually you stopped and took you know, we all

1696
01:24:00,493 --> 01:24:03,333
Speaker 10: stopped and looked around in our community and who's nearby us?

1697
01:24:04,093 --> 01:24:07,693
Speaker 10: And are they actually you know, is there some loneliness

1698
01:24:07,733 --> 01:24:11,853
Speaker 10: nearby that we can help with and and and make

1699
01:24:11,973 --> 01:24:14,013
Speaker 10: that maybe not just a one off Christmas present, but

1700
01:24:14,093 --> 01:24:16,493
Speaker 10: perhaps a bit of a longer term commitment to And

1701
01:24:16,573 --> 01:24:19,373
Speaker 10: it doesn't have to be much. We've got a we've

1702
01:24:19,413 --> 01:24:21,293
Speaker 10: got an elderly neighbor that lives next door to us,

1703
01:24:21,413 --> 01:24:25,133
Speaker 10: and her family lives nearby, and they see her regularly,

1704
01:24:25,253 --> 01:24:27,933
Speaker 10: but you know, it's just the occasional popping in and

1705
01:24:29,573 --> 01:24:32,533
Speaker 10: having a conversation over the fence or bringing in her

1706
01:24:32,613 --> 01:24:36,693
Speaker 10: paper or you know, anything like that. And I know that,

1707
01:24:36,813 --> 01:24:38,973
Speaker 10: you know, I've spoken to her, and she's just she

1708
01:24:39,133 --> 01:24:41,373
Speaker 10: really finds that just a really nice thing to and

1709
01:24:41,573 --> 01:24:43,813
Speaker 10: feels part of the community and feels that there's some

1710
01:24:44,173 --> 01:24:46,653
Speaker 10: there's somebody near to her that.

1711
01:24:46,773 --> 01:24:49,613
Speaker 8: That that is aware of her and cares about her. Yeah,

1712
01:24:49,653 --> 01:24:50,413
Speaker 8: that's a great thing to do.

1713
01:24:50,573 --> 01:24:53,013
Speaker 2: Feel connected today. It's just such a such a vital

1714
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:56,933
Speaker 2: kind of human experience. It's funny too, right, because social

1715
01:24:57,013 --> 01:25:00,773
Speaker 2: media is almost more of a problem with this than

1716
01:25:01,013 --> 01:25:04,773
Speaker 2: than an aid, in that people who are on social

1717
01:25:04,853 --> 01:25:07,693
Speaker 2: media actually feel lone you're often than people who aren't.

1718
01:25:08,693 --> 01:25:10,013
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's a weird.

1719
01:25:10,133 --> 01:25:12,973
Speaker 10: It's sort of counterintuitive in a way, and it's possibly

1720
01:25:13,053 --> 01:25:15,853
Speaker 10: related to that the age of the generation, you know,

1721
01:25:16,613 --> 01:25:19,973
Speaker 10: where they are seeing what's going on in everybody else's

1722
01:25:20,053 --> 01:25:23,173
Speaker 10: life and perhaps that enhances the sense of this isn't

1723
01:25:23,213 --> 01:25:23,933
Speaker 10: happening in.

1724
01:25:24,053 --> 01:25:26,333
Speaker 8: My own life, which is sad.

1725
01:25:26,893 --> 01:25:29,173
Speaker 10: And yeah, I think I think it was something like

1726
01:25:29,213 --> 01:25:32,693
Speaker 10: about seventy five percent of those people who of older

1727
01:25:32,733 --> 01:25:36,053
Speaker 10: people who were surveyed and said that they did they

1728
01:25:36,213 --> 01:25:39,413
Speaker 10: had good social media access and they connected with people online,

1729
01:25:39,453 --> 01:25:42,653
Speaker 10: but actually they still reported see them lonely. So I

1730
01:25:42,773 --> 01:25:45,973
Speaker 10: think you know that nothing can beat the face to.

1731
01:25:46,053 --> 01:25:48,173
Speaker 8: Face really, so social media is great.

1732
01:25:48,013 --> 01:25:51,293
Speaker 10: For keeping in touch, but it can also perhaps highlight

1733
01:25:51,413 --> 01:25:53,693
Speaker 10: the differences and maybe some of the areas that aren't

1734
01:25:53,733 --> 01:25:56,093
Speaker 10: going so well for you. So nothing really beats to

1735
01:25:56,133 --> 01:25:59,173
Speaker 10: face to face or at least even a phone call.

1736
01:25:59,333 --> 01:26:03,573
Speaker 10: You know, texting somebody is all good, but actually having

1737
01:26:03,653 --> 01:26:05,493
Speaker 10: that phone call, having the face to face if.

1738
01:26:05,453 --> 01:26:07,933
Speaker 2: You can, is even and trying to make it a

1739
01:26:08,053 --> 01:26:10,333
Speaker 2: long term kind of connection rather than just a one

1740
01:26:10,373 --> 01:26:11,973
Speaker 2: off quick hey, how are you doing kind of thing?

1741
01:26:12,093 --> 01:26:15,733
Speaker 10: Right, Yeah, that's right. I think it's just that.

1742
01:26:15,853 --> 01:26:16,053
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1743
01:26:16,093 --> 01:26:19,733
Speaker 10: And those long term relationships and connections there are of

1744
01:26:19,773 --> 01:26:22,413
Speaker 10: course just built up with small moments, you know, day

1745
01:26:22,453 --> 01:26:24,893
Speaker 10: after day, week after week, and you're just saying good day,

1746
01:26:25,013 --> 01:26:26,613
Speaker 10: and then you stop for a bit longer and you

1747
01:26:26,733 --> 01:26:28,813
Speaker 10: have a bit of a chat and then that, you know,

1748
01:26:29,413 --> 01:26:31,573
Speaker 10: and that sort of develops over time. So you don't

1749
01:26:31,573 --> 01:26:33,893
Speaker 10: have to sort of rush in and spend the whole

1750
01:26:33,933 --> 01:26:36,293
Speaker 10: of Christmas Day, in Boxing Day and New Year's Day

1751
01:26:36,373 --> 01:26:38,693
Speaker 10: with them and you know, dominate their lives twenty four

1752
01:26:38,693 --> 01:26:42,173
Speaker 10: to seven. Just build up those relationships slowly but surely,

1753
01:26:43,293 --> 01:26:46,613
Speaker 10: and you know, sow those seeds and eventually they'll spring

1754
01:26:46,693 --> 01:26:47,893
Speaker 10: a bit of fruit hopefully.

1755
01:26:48,013 --> 01:26:51,933
Speaker 2: So obviously we're speaking at speaking about this from the

1756
01:26:51,973 --> 01:26:57,013
Speaker 2: perspective of people who are you know, of younger generations

1757
01:26:57,413 --> 01:26:59,173
Speaker 2: who are often really busy and that kind of thing.

1758
01:26:59,413 --> 01:27:01,413
Speaker 2: This is a bit of a tricky question, but do

1759
01:27:01,733 --> 01:27:06,773
Speaker 2: you think older people bear some responsibility and trying to

1760
01:27:06,853 --> 01:27:10,373
Speaker 2: be really proactive about making connections, about joining clubs or

1761
01:27:10,493 --> 01:27:12,493
Speaker 2: trying to be social like that. Is that something you

1762
01:27:12,533 --> 01:27:16,413
Speaker 2: can try and foster and people. Yeah, feels like there's

1763
01:27:16,413 --> 01:27:17,973
Speaker 2: a place for both obviously.

1764
01:27:18,413 --> 01:27:21,893
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think it's important to

1765
01:27:21,973 --> 01:27:26,413
Speaker 10: address the barriers that might prevent older people from getting

1766
01:27:26,453 --> 01:27:29,973
Speaker 10: out into the community. Like if mobility or health is

1767
01:27:30,013 --> 01:27:34,493
Speaker 10: a concern, or transport, then that's really difficult.

1768
01:27:34,573 --> 01:27:36,293
Speaker 14: But if communities.

1769
01:27:35,813 --> 01:27:39,173
Speaker 10: Can come together and you know, address some of those concerns,

1770
01:27:39,213 --> 01:27:42,453
Speaker 10: you know, have a pick up van or provide taxi

1771
01:27:42,533 --> 01:27:45,653
Speaker 10: chips or whatever so that people can get out and about.

1772
01:27:45,773 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 10: So I think it's been you know, removing those barriers

1773
01:27:49,293 --> 01:27:52,093
Speaker 10: that will prevent people from getting out and about and

1774
01:27:52,413 --> 01:27:54,733
Speaker 10: allowing people to take up the opportunities. And I think,

1775
01:27:55,093 --> 01:27:57,733
Speaker 10: you know, there's often lots of sort of small community

1776
01:27:57,813 --> 01:28:01,133
Speaker 10: events that go on in your neighborhood that people would

1777
01:28:01,173 --> 01:28:03,373
Speaker 10: go to if they only could or if.

1778
01:28:03,253 --> 01:28:03,973
Speaker 3: They knew about.

1779
01:28:05,413 --> 01:28:07,613
Speaker 10: So it's a bit both, of course, but there are

1780
01:28:07,653 --> 01:28:10,533
Speaker 10: lots of often lots of societal barriers towards people getting

1781
01:28:10,573 --> 01:28:11,813
Speaker 10: out and about even when they want to.

1782
01:28:11,893 --> 01:28:14,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, the moyality one's a big one. A yeah, that's

1783
01:28:14,573 --> 01:28:17,893
Speaker 2: a really it's a critical one. Yeah, that is such

1784
01:28:17,973 --> 01:28:20,693
Speaker 2: good advice. Thank you so much, Google, have a fantastic

1785
01:28:20,813 --> 01:28:21,533
Speaker 2: Christmas one you.

1786
01:28:22,573 --> 01:28:24,813
Speaker 10: Thanks, Jack, Yes, you too, Thanks for your thanks for

1787
01:28:24,813 --> 01:28:25,693
Speaker 10: your Christmas card.

1788
01:28:26,213 --> 01:28:27,733
Speaker 2: We're always always a highlight.

1789
01:28:28,373 --> 01:28:29,493
Speaker 14: Yeah. We'll speak to you next year.

1790
01:28:29,573 --> 01:28:30,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look forward to it. I have a great

1791
01:28:30,893 --> 01:28:33,893
Speaker 2: break and we will catch you again very soon. Google Sutherland,

1792
01:28:33,893 --> 01:28:37,613
Speaker 2: the clinical psychologist with Umbrella Well Being. It's seventeen past

1793
01:28:37,613 --> 01:28:39,853
Speaker 2: to leaving you with Jack Tame. This is News Talks.

1794
01:28:39,853 --> 01:28:44,933
Speaker 1: He'd be travel with Wendy WU Tours, unique fully inclusive tours.

1795
01:28:44,773 --> 01:28:45,653
Speaker 4: Around the world.

1796
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:48,973
Speaker 2: Mike hardly has our travel corresponding. He's with us this morning,

1797
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:49,933
Speaker 2: more than a mic.

1798
01:28:50,573 --> 01:28:52,893
Speaker 21: More than a Jack, stupendous Christmas card.

1799
01:28:53,013 --> 01:28:54,053
Speaker 8: Up to your usual thing.

1800
01:28:54,253 --> 01:28:55,093
Speaker 21: Thank you very much.

1801
01:28:55,333 --> 01:28:57,213
Speaker 2: I don't know about stupendous. I think that might be

1802
01:28:57,213 --> 01:28:59,893
Speaker 2: a stretch, but thank you. Look the mere fact if

1803
01:28:59,933 --> 01:29:02,653
Speaker 2: you can, if you can read it, then I'm impressed,

1804
01:29:03,013 --> 01:29:07,173
Speaker 2: because honestly, I my name is so no.

1805
01:29:07,453 --> 01:29:09,133
Speaker 21: I think there's a bit of self load in going

1806
01:29:09,173 --> 01:29:11,133
Speaker 21: on here. Jack time, I don't have a problem with

1807
01:29:11,213 --> 01:29:14,533
Speaker 21: your handwriting. I find it very legible. Oh very well

1808
01:29:14,573 --> 01:29:15,573
Speaker 21: at the top of the class.

1809
01:29:15,613 --> 01:29:18,373
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I put out that quote and take

1810
01:29:18,373 --> 01:29:21,093
Speaker 2: it home. Yeah, as the first time I've heard that ever.

1811
01:29:22,293 --> 01:29:24,093
Speaker 2: In fact, I always think as a journalist, I'll be

1812
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:26,133
Speaker 2: able to protect my sources because even if they go

1813
01:29:26,213 --> 01:29:28,093
Speaker 2: through my notebooks, they'll bet they won't be able to

1814
01:29:28,133 --> 01:29:29,973
Speaker 2: read anything. You know, they won't be able to decipher

1815
01:29:30,013 --> 01:29:33,373
Speaker 2: Anything'll be fine. Just a very quick update the black

1816
01:29:33,413 --> 01:29:36,253
Speaker 2: Caps twenty four to none off four point five overs.

1817
01:29:36,293 --> 01:29:37,813
Speaker 2: I've just had a text from Mars saying, Jack, for

1818
01:29:37,853 --> 01:29:40,453
Speaker 2: goodness sake, come on keep us up to speed. So yeah,

1819
01:29:40,853 --> 01:29:43,813
Speaker 2: relatively early days, four point five overs. The relatively good

1820
01:29:43,853 --> 01:29:48,613
Speaker 2: sounds so far. Anyway, we are focusing on street treats

1821
01:29:49,413 --> 01:29:52,133
Speaker 2: and what I think is the most underrated of New

1822
01:29:52,213 --> 01:29:57,133
Speaker 2: Zealand's big cities. Indeed, this morning, and we should start

1823
01:29:57,133 --> 01:29:59,973
Speaker 2: off with George Street. How is George Street looking after

1824
01:30:00,093 --> 01:30:01,013
Speaker 2: the major makeover?

1825
01:30:01,133 --> 01:30:01,253
Speaker 3: Mike.

1826
01:30:02,133 --> 01:30:05,013
Speaker 21: Yes, Well, it wasn't without controversy, as should know, Jack

1827
01:30:05,093 --> 01:30:07,813
Speaker 21: and I did wonder at times if the tens of

1828
01:30:07,933 --> 01:30:10,493
Speaker 21: millions being shelled out would be worth it. But I

1829
01:30:10,613 --> 01:30:14,053
Speaker 21: have to say Dunedan's retail heart looks resplendent. And the

1830
01:30:14,133 --> 01:30:17,853
Speaker 21: really interesting thing about done is is that, unlike most cities,

1831
01:30:18,413 --> 01:30:21,413
Speaker 21: they haven't been hollowed out with suburban walls. So when

1832
01:30:21,453 --> 01:30:23,493
Speaker 21: you go to George Street, you've got the Meridian Mall,

1833
01:30:23,613 --> 01:30:26,493
Speaker 21: Wall Street Mall, Golden Center. So these are all great

1834
01:30:26,613 --> 01:30:30,533
Speaker 21: CBD retail magnets which give George Street that sort of

1835
01:30:30,653 --> 01:30:35,173
Speaker 21: continuing vitality. And the Georgia up to George Street is

1836
01:30:35,613 --> 01:30:38,933
Speaker 21: undeniably pedestrian centric. But I think they've done a stunning job.

1837
01:30:39,173 --> 01:30:44,453
Speaker 21: Great paving, awesome street furniture, the plantings. I hate when

1838
01:30:44,573 --> 01:30:49,573
Speaker 21: councils put in spindly, dispiriting plantings. Well in Dneda and

1839
01:30:49,613 --> 01:30:53,413
Speaker 21: I've gone lush, you know, they've gone like jungle, so

1840
01:30:53,653 --> 01:30:56,693
Speaker 21: it just looks so good. They've got a curbside playground,

1841
01:30:56,853 --> 01:30:59,893
Speaker 21: cannibal lighting, and the public art jack really cold. I've

1842
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:02,653
Speaker 21: got all sorts of dishes etched into the papers, so

1843
01:31:02,733 --> 01:31:05,973
Speaker 21: when you're walking along there's all these local luminary showcase

1844
01:31:06,453 --> 01:31:09,453
Speaker 21: dishies from poet on a two far day, the writer

1845
01:31:09,613 --> 01:31:12,813
Speaker 21: Janet Frame, some lyrics from the iconic Dnedan band to

1846
01:31:12,893 --> 01:31:16,493
Speaker 21: the Clean. So yeah, there's lots to check out in George.

1847
01:31:16,253 --> 01:31:18,853
Speaker 2: Street, and tell us about the Warehouse precinc you reckon

1848
01:31:18,933 --> 01:31:19,653
Speaker 2: it's worth a wonder.

1849
01:31:20,573 --> 01:31:23,173
Speaker 21: I'm fascinated by this precinct and it's been sort of

1850
01:31:23,213 --> 01:31:25,693
Speaker 21: in a state of revival for about a decade or so.

1851
01:31:26,053 --> 01:31:29,653
Speaker 21: And I mean, obviously Dunedan's not sort of architectural flourishes.

1852
01:31:30,173 --> 01:31:33,173
Speaker 21: So many great stately stone buildings over the place to

1853
01:31:33,253 --> 01:31:34,933
Speaker 21: feast your eyes on as you swallow about that. The

1854
01:31:35,013 --> 01:31:38,173
Speaker 21: Warehouse Precinct, it's sort of got the spirit of New

1855
01:31:38,253 --> 01:31:43,453
Speaker 21: York's meatpacking district, so it's super hip, a huge trove

1856
01:31:43,573 --> 01:31:47,373
Speaker 21: of heritage buildings that have been repurposed as offices and

1857
01:31:47,413 --> 01:31:51,493
Speaker 21: apartments and really trendy, hostile venues. Vogel Street is sort

1858
01:31:51,533 --> 01:31:53,453
Speaker 21: of like the beating heart of the precinct. It's just

1859
01:31:53,573 --> 01:31:56,653
Speaker 21: a show piece street. And then you've got all of

1860
01:31:56,973 --> 01:32:00,493
Speaker 21: Dunedan's street art, a lot of it is concentrated in

1861
01:32:00,573 --> 01:32:03,853
Speaker 21: that precinct. And there's a trail you can follow that

1862
01:32:04,053 --> 01:32:07,093
Speaker 21: threads together all of a splashy site, leading you down

1863
01:32:07,213 --> 01:32:10,533
Speaker 21: all sorts of nooks and crannies. Jack like no Name Ellie,

1864
01:32:10,533 --> 01:32:11,853
Speaker 21: which is an absolute cracker.

1865
01:32:12,653 --> 01:32:16,173
Speaker 2: What about the kai An any recommended.

1866
01:32:15,693 --> 01:32:19,333
Speaker 21: Eats for us, I would start at Bogle Street Kitchen

1867
01:32:19,413 --> 01:32:22,573
Speaker 21: because they were the trailblazer that powered the revival of

1868
01:32:22,653 --> 01:32:25,853
Speaker 21: the precinct into a very sort of buzzy hospo haunt.

1869
01:32:26,653 --> 01:32:29,653
Speaker 21: Really good wood fired pizza there. If you're into your coffee,

1870
01:32:29,773 --> 01:32:33,293
Speaker 21: go to Heritage Coffee. It's housed in a building that

1871
01:32:33,413 --> 01:32:37,693
Speaker 21: looks like a miniature Raffle Singapore. It's this gorgeous cream

1872
01:32:37,773 --> 01:32:41,773
Speaker 21: building that was actually the Harbourmasters Building one hundred and

1873
01:32:41,813 --> 01:32:44,093
Speaker 21: twenty years ago. And then for lunch on the run,

1874
01:32:44,173 --> 01:32:46,413
Speaker 21: I went to this brand new kid on the block

1875
01:32:46,453 --> 01:32:49,733
Speaker 21: called Big Lizard. It's a gally style takeaway and there

1876
01:32:49,813 --> 01:32:53,253
Speaker 21: Fakacha Sammy's and the pastries Jack Dame, Oh my god,

1877
01:32:53,333 --> 01:32:56,093
Speaker 21: they are unbeatable. And then just very quickly beyond the

1878
01:32:56,133 --> 01:32:59,333
Speaker 21: Warehouse precinct, close to the Octagon, I checked out a

1879
01:32:59,373 --> 01:33:03,413
Speaker 21: place called Grays and Grays and Glow and this typically

1880
01:33:03,533 --> 01:33:07,413
Speaker 21: a line out the door. The reason everything on the

1881
01:33:07,493 --> 01:33:12,373
Speaker 21: menu is nine dollars. Marcos, Croquettes, Lamb Stewards, Knocky all

1882
01:33:12,493 --> 01:33:13,893
Speaker 21: for nine dollars.

1883
01:33:14,413 --> 01:33:18,213
Speaker 2: Man, that's grave it sounds wonderful. Okay, what about the

1884
01:33:18,333 --> 01:33:19,973
Speaker 2: bruise scene in Dnedan.

1885
01:33:20,813 --> 01:33:23,253
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, obviously they've got a very proud living history.

1886
01:33:23,333 --> 01:33:26,493
Speaker 21: And it's amazing how the Spates Brewery tours they still

1887
01:33:26,693 --> 01:33:30,013
Speaker 21: rate on trip Advisor as one of the essential things you've.

1888
01:33:29,853 --> 01:33:30,133
Speaker 3: Got to do.

1889
01:33:32,053 --> 01:33:35,933
Speaker 21: So it's our oldest working brewery, one hundred and fifty

1890
01:33:36,013 --> 01:33:38,093
Speaker 21: years old next year. And I love how that building

1891
01:33:38,533 --> 01:33:41,133
Speaker 21: could be a stand in for Willie Wonka's chocolate factory

1892
01:33:41,213 --> 01:33:45,893
Speaker 21: and it's just so cool. Further your liquid education at Emerson's,

1893
01:33:45,973 --> 01:33:49,413
Speaker 21: which is widely considered as the pioneer of our craft

1894
01:33:49,533 --> 01:33:52,613
Speaker 21: beer industry. And when you're in No Name Ellie and

1895
01:33:52,693 --> 01:33:56,813
Speaker 21: the Warehouse precinct, check out a recent micro brewery arrival

1896
01:33:56,933 --> 01:34:01,613
Speaker 21: called Steamer Basin, really cooled brewery and Tapprim. I tried

1897
01:34:01,653 --> 01:34:05,573
Speaker 21: the Eceptron sour, which is fabulous this summer, and the

1898
01:34:05,853 --> 01:34:09,173
Speaker 21: cream out Jack, which has a hint of chocolate in vanilla.

1899
01:34:09,333 --> 01:34:12,773
Speaker 2: Oh don't mind, just do we start just one? You

1900
01:34:12,853 --> 01:34:15,613
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yes, you know it just said, yeah, yeah, beautiful?

1901
01:34:16,133 --> 01:34:18,733
Speaker 2: Is the loop around the harbor? The Otago vine is

1902
01:34:18,773 --> 01:34:19,813
Speaker 2: that proving popular?

1903
01:34:20,613 --> 01:34:20,813
Speaker 4: Oh?

1904
01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:21,933
Speaker 3: Wild?

1905
01:34:22,173 --> 01:34:24,253
Speaker 21: It is on fire. I was there a couple of

1906
01:34:24,293 --> 01:34:27,933
Speaker 21: weeks ago and despite it raining. There were hundreds on

1907
01:34:28,053 --> 01:34:31,773
Speaker 21: the trails, so this is this massive project that was

1908
01:34:31,853 --> 01:34:36,373
Speaker 21: completed last year. But the trailers, the cyclists and walkers,

1909
01:34:36,893 --> 01:34:40,853
Speaker 21: it is absolutely riveting. It spans a thirty two k loop.

1910
01:34:41,173 --> 01:34:43,933
Speaker 21: So you've got the West Harbor Path which threeds along

1911
01:34:44,013 --> 01:34:47,453
Speaker 21: the peninsula to Port a Bellow and then over on

1912
01:34:47,533 --> 01:34:51,733
Speaker 21: the eastern side. That path links the city with Port Charmers,

1913
01:34:51,813 --> 01:34:55,093
Speaker 21: and they've got this amazing boardwalk over Blanket Base, so

1914
01:34:55,173 --> 01:34:57,773
Speaker 21: you feel like you're cycling on the water as you

1915
01:34:57,893 --> 01:35:00,853
Speaker 21: go over Blanket Bay. The scenery, as you know, jack

1916
01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 21: mind blowing and the full circuit takes most riders about

1917
01:35:04,413 --> 01:35:06,133
Speaker 21: two to four hours to knock off, but there is

1918
01:35:06,453 --> 01:35:08,093
Speaker 21: so much to see and do along the trail.

1919
01:35:08,253 --> 01:35:09,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how do you get across the water?

1920
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:14,493
Speaker 21: Very good question, you could summons Jesus. But most people

1921
01:35:14,613 --> 01:35:18,653
Speaker 21: go for port to port cruisers. They operate a short

1922
01:35:18,733 --> 01:35:21,853
Speaker 21: and suite ferry crossing several times a day. It's only

1923
01:35:21,853 --> 01:35:24,773
Speaker 21: about five or ten minutes across from Portcharmers to Portobello,

1924
01:35:24,893 --> 01:35:28,253
Speaker 21: so that's brilliant. The simplicity is brilliant. It just completes the.

1925
01:35:28,293 --> 01:35:32,773
Speaker 2: Loop nice and any quick tips on Port charmers very quickly.

1926
01:35:32,973 --> 01:35:35,973
Speaker 21: Do not miss the Maritime Museum and the reasoning. It's

1927
01:35:36,173 --> 01:35:39,773
Speaker 21: just been enlarged and upgraded, so it does this glittering

1928
01:35:39,893 --> 01:35:43,173
Speaker 21: job immersing you in the glories of everything. When it

1929
01:35:43,213 --> 01:35:46,613
Speaker 21: comes to seafear and heritage of Dunedin. The Wall of

1930
01:35:46,773 --> 01:35:50,133
Speaker 21: Ship's Gallery is something you have to see to believe.

1931
01:35:50,293 --> 01:35:52,853
Speaker 21: It is genuinely a wall of ships. And that is

1932
01:35:52,933 --> 01:35:54,373
Speaker 21: going to be a short fire summer hit.

1933
01:35:54,733 --> 01:35:57,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Oh it sounds wonderful. Thank you so much.

1934
01:35:58,493 --> 01:36:01,373
Speaker 2: My parents used to always do do Dunedin over the summer.

1935
01:36:01,613 --> 01:36:03,653
Speaker 2: They always quite like going down because of course, you

1936
01:36:03,693 --> 01:36:05,453
Speaker 2: know they have all the students that come into town

1937
01:36:05,493 --> 01:36:06,973
Speaker 2: and then they go off and you know, if they've

1938
01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:08,773
Speaker 2: come from around the country, they often spread out over

1939
01:36:08,813 --> 01:36:11,533
Speaker 2: summer and so it doesn't empty out, but it's definitely

1940
01:36:11,613 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 2: you know, empties out a little bit relative to the

1941
01:36:13,333 --> 01:36:15,173
Speaker 2: middle of the year. No, I always reckon it was

1942
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:16,653
Speaker 2: a great spot to go, and then you go down

1943
01:36:16,693 --> 01:36:18,373
Speaker 2: to Saint Clear every bit of a swim as well.

1944
01:36:18,773 --> 01:36:21,133
Speaker 2: It's just a really really good place to have a

1945
01:36:21,213 --> 01:36:22,773
Speaker 2: few days over the summer. So thank you for that.

1946
01:36:22,893 --> 01:36:25,733
Speaker 2: Mike really appreciate it, and you have a wonderful Christmas.

1947
01:36:25,773 --> 01:36:27,613
Speaker 2: I know I don't need to tell you to do that,

1948
01:36:28,133 --> 01:36:30,493
Speaker 2: given how much you love the summer the year, but yeah,

1949
01:36:30,613 --> 01:36:32,773
Speaker 2: thank you for everything this year and have a wonderful summer,

1950
01:36:32,773 --> 01:36:33,093
Speaker 2: won't you?

1951
01:36:33,933 --> 01:36:35,893
Speaker 21: Thanks you too, Jack in regards to the family.

1952
01:36:36,053 --> 01:36:38,213
Speaker 2: Yeah sounds good, all right? Catch you so. Mike Yardley,

1953
01:36:38,253 --> 01:36:40,693
Speaker 2: our travel correspondent, all of his tips for enjoying to

1954
01:36:40,813 --> 01:36:42,613
Speaker 2: need and there will be up on the news talks.

1955
01:36:42,613 --> 01:36:45,773
Speaker 2: He'd be website Remember everything once we've said it on

1956
01:36:45,853 --> 01:36:48,053
Speaker 2: the radio goes up on the website. News talks. He'd

1957
01:36:48,093 --> 01:36:51,853
Speaker 2: be dot co dot nzed Ford slash Jack. It is

1958
01:36:51,973 --> 01:36:53,493
Speaker 2: just coming up to eleven thirty.

1959
01:36:57,133 --> 01:37:01,053
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1960
01:37:01,533 --> 01:37:02,293
Speaker 1: on news talks.

1961
01:37:02,333 --> 01:37:02,653
Speaker 4: He'd be.

1962
01:37:12,373 --> 01:37:14,173
Speaker 1: What the earth just a said you?

1963
01:37:14,373 --> 01:37:17,933
Speaker 11: Free for you?

1964
01:37:19,293 --> 01:37:22,893
Speaker 4: I cuertain wait for the night to tell me. Race,

1965
01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:25,373
Speaker 4: you'll catch my attention.

1966
01:37:25,413 --> 01:37:28,533
Speaker 2: Right just after eleven thirty on your Saturday morning, Jack

1967
01:37:28,573 --> 01:37:30,093
Speaker 2: taym in the hot seat through it in the day.

1968
01:37:30,093 --> 01:37:33,053
Speaker 2: Then Jason Pine is in for weekends sport this afternoon

1969
01:37:33,253 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 2: killed a Piney killer Jack black Caps twenty six for

1970
01:37:36,213 --> 01:37:38,653
Speaker 2: none off seven overs. I don't I haven't looked at

1971
01:37:38,693 --> 01:37:40,933
Speaker 2: the stats, but there must be about their best opening

1972
01:37:41,053 --> 01:37:44,293
Speaker 2: stand for the series against England so far. I reckon,

1973
01:37:44,293 --> 01:37:45,333
Speaker 2: I think it is. I think it is.

1974
01:37:45,373 --> 01:37:48,013
Speaker 22: I just saw a stat flash up before the average

1975
01:37:48,053 --> 01:37:50,653
Speaker 22: opening partnership in New Zealand and the series is fifteen,

1976
01:37:50,893 --> 01:37:54,733
Speaker 22: so twenty six were almost double. It Will Young, Will

1977
01:37:54,813 --> 01:37:57,293
Speaker 22: Young into the team obviously, Devin Conway awaiting the birth

1978
01:37:57,333 --> 01:37:59,693
Speaker 22: of his first child with his wife. Yeah, it's a

1979
01:37:59,733 --> 01:38:02,333
Speaker 22: good start, a good solid start, having been sent in

1980
01:38:02,773 --> 01:38:03,893
Speaker 22: at Seddon Park as well.

1981
01:38:04,013 --> 01:38:06,573
Speaker 2: So twenty six without loss as we are is what

1982
01:38:06,653 --> 01:38:08,413
Speaker 2: half an hour gone. I'd be interesting to know if

1983
01:38:08,973 --> 01:38:11,333
Speaker 2: Devin Comwoy would have been named in the team, you know,

1984
01:38:11,413 --> 01:38:13,493
Speaker 2: had he not been waiting on the birth of his child.

1985
01:38:13,533 --> 01:38:15,693
Speaker 2: Obviously that's a very good reason to be not playing.

1986
01:38:15,733 --> 01:38:19,813
Speaker 2: But yeah, be interesting. And you know, seeing Mitt Santner

1987
01:38:19,853 --> 01:38:22,053
Speaker 2: coming to the team, no great surprise but all liyes

1988
01:38:22,093 --> 01:38:24,733
Speaker 2: of course on Tim Soudy indeed, yeah, one hundred and

1989
01:38:24,813 --> 01:38:28,053
Speaker 2: seventh and final Test match for Tim Soudy. Look, I

1990
01:38:28,173 --> 01:38:31,213
Speaker 2: think as much as the last couple of years have

1991
01:38:31,293 --> 01:38:33,973
Speaker 2: been a bit controversial in terms of his selection and

1992
01:38:34,213 --> 01:38:37,413
Speaker 2: earning that selection, then the captaincy of course, and everything

1993
01:38:37,533 --> 01:38:38,973
Speaker 2: was gone with it. I don't think there's any denying

1994
01:38:39,013 --> 01:38:40,773
Speaker 2: that he's been one of our greats. Jack, you know

1995
01:38:40,933 --> 01:38:41,853
Speaker 2: he has been.

1996
01:38:42,333 --> 01:38:45,093
Speaker 22: Yeah, only only Sir Richard Hadley has taken more Test

1997
01:38:45,173 --> 01:38:48,213
Speaker 22: wickets than Tim, Soaudy has four New Zealand And at

1998
01:38:48,293 --> 01:38:50,693
Speaker 22: his peak that sort of you know, I kind of

1999
01:38:50,773 --> 01:38:52,333
Speaker 22: think the two or three years leading into the World

2000
01:38:52,373 --> 01:38:55,293
Speaker 22: Test Championship, back into the twenty tens, he was just

2001
01:38:55,813 --> 01:38:58,693
Speaker 22: at times just just absolutely brilliant swinging the ball and

2002
01:38:58,773 --> 01:39:01,453
Speaker 22: tandem with Trent bolt but and Neil Wagner thrown in

2003
01:39:01,533 --> 01:39:03,613
Speaker 22: there and they were a huge part of New Zealand

2004
01:39:03,653 --> 01:39:06,213
Speaker 22: success in that period. So what your hope is that

2005
01:39:06,533 --> 01:39:08,293
Speaker 22: is that what's happened in the last little while won't

2006
01:39:08,333 --> 01:39:11,373
Speaker 22: won't tage his legacy. I don't think it will. Yeah,

2007
01:39:11,413 --> 01:39:13,413
Speaker 22: I think he'll I think he'll be he'll go down

2008
01:39:13,573 --> 01:39:16,293
Speaker 22: rightly so as one of an absolute, absolute great Test cricketers.

2009
01:39:16,333 --> 01:39:18,493
Speaker 2: Well, I mean even even if he you know, we'll

2010
01:39:18,493 --> 01:39:20,293
Speaker 2: see how he goes in this game obviously, but even

2011
01:39:20,333 --> 01:39:22,373
Speaker 2: in the last couple of games he hasn't been taking

2012
01:39:22,453 --> 01:39:25,453
Speaker 2: heaps of wickets, but he has been bowling well at times,

2013
01:39:25,533 --> 01:39:27,853
Speaker 2: like really well and moving the ball and you know,

2014
01:39:27,973 --> 01:39:30,933
Speaker 2: making for a kind of tricky prospect for most batsman,

2015
01:39:30,973 --> 01:39:35,093
Speaker 2: although maybe not the English. Yeah it's not. It's not

2016
01:39:35,173 --> 01:39:37,373
Speaker 2: like he's totally past it or anything. And I think

2017
01:39:37,413 --> 01:39:38,733
Speaker 2: he hit the nail on the head, you know, Like

2018
01:39:38,853 --> 01:39:43,053
Speaker 2: I as a as a New Zealand cricket tragic, it's

2019
01:39:43,093 --> 01:39:45,173
Speaker 2: really obvious to me that we've just been through this,

2020
01:39:45,453 --> 01:39:47,573
Speaker 2: this kind of golden period. It might be the single

2021
01:39:47,693 --> 01:39:49,973
Speaker 2: best period as a New Zealand cricket fan in my

2022
01:39:50,213 --> 01:39:53,173
Speaker 2: entire life that we've just lived through with the World

2023
01:39:53,253 --> 01:39:55,853
Speaker 2: Test Championship and you know, the Camee Williamson era and

2024
01:39:56,373 --> 01:39:58,573
Speaker 2: like you say, Saudi is just an absolute kind of

2025
01:39:58,653 --> 01:40:03,053
Speaker 2: foundational reason for that. And nothing's gonna nothing's going to

2026
01:40:03,133 --> 01:40:04,933
Speaker 2: change that legacy, I don't think. So why are you

2027
01:40:05,053 --> 01:40:06,933
Speaker 2: expecting Hamilton anything and particular?

2028
01:40:07,293 --> 01:40:09,653
Speaker 22: Oh, I'd like a slightly bit of performance and I

2029
01:40:09,693 --> 01:40:12,133
Speaker 22: think wouldn't it, Yeah, it would be, But it'd be

2030
01:40:12,173 --> 01:40:13,973
Speaker 22: good to still be talking about the game on Monday

2031
01:40:14,053 --> 01:40:17,133
Speaker 22: or Tuesday. I think we will be. Look, I think

2032
01:40:17,213 --> 01:40:18,613
Speaker 22: you know, there is pride on the line. As they

2033
01:40:18,653 --> 01:40:21,173
Speaker 22: say it's a dead rubber. They can't win the series,

2034
01:40:21,213 --> 01:40:23,413
Speaker 22: they can't, can't stop England from winning the series, but

2035
01:40:23,453 --> 01:40:25,213
Speaker 22: they can send Tim Southy out on a high and

2036
01:40:25,253 --> 01:40:27,733
Speaker 22: I think everybody in that New Zealand dressing room will

2037
01:40:27,733 --> 01:40:29,293
Speaker 22: want to do just that. I mean, there's no good,

2038
01:40:30,053 --> 01:40:31,733
Speaker 22: it'll be no good sort of sitting around on Monday

2039
01:40:31,733 --> 01:40:34,573
Speaker 22: afternoon having been beaten inside three days again and saying hey,

2040
01:40:34,573 --> 01:40:36,573
Speaker 22: thanks for the memories to Tim. Yeah, you know, it

2041
01:40:36,573 --> 01:40:38,293
Speaker 22: would take the gloss off of the bit. So like, yeah,

2042
01:40:38,293 --> 01:40:41,373
Speaker 22: I hope they I hope that they produce a much

2043
01:40:41,453 --> 01:40:43,533
Speaker 22: better showing in this third Test than they have in

2044
01:40:43,573 --> 01:40:44,013
Speaker 22: the first two.

2045
01:40:44,093 --> 01:40:46,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got it's a good day for tat Crookeet,

2046
01:40:46,053 --> 01:40:48,213
Speaker 2: really good weekend for Test cricket because we've got Australia

2047
01:40:48,293 --> 01:40:51,493
Speaker 2: and India kicking off that I think just after one

2048
01:40:51,533 --> 01:40:54,053
Speaker 2: o'clock twenty past yeah at the Gabba. Yeah, this afternoon

2049
01:40:54,093 --> 01:40:55,653
Speaker 2: at the Gabba, which will which will be great. And

2050
01:40:55,653 --> 01:40:57,173
Speaker 2: then we've got a league this weekend as well.

2051
01:40:57,613 --> 01:41:00,653
Speaker 22: Indeed, yes, the Phoenix play this afternoon five o'clock and

2052
01:41:00,693 --> 01:41:03,573
Speaker 22: then Auckland FC put their unbeaten or their perfect start

2053
01:41:03,653 --> 01:41:06,253
Speaker 22: to the season on the line again tomorrow. Incredible really,

2054
01:41:06,413 --> 01:41:09,373
Speaker 22: what they've done away at Melbourne City. That's tomorrow evening

2055
01:41:09,413 --> 01:41:12,813
Speaker 22: around seven New Zealand Times. So yeah, that'll be tough

2056
01:41:12,853 --> 01:41:15,573
Speaker 22: for them, you know, whether you subscribe to the fact

2057
01:41:15,573 --> 01:41:17,453
Speaker 22: they've been lucky or not in the first six weeks

2058
01:41:17,653 --> 01:41:20,173
Speaker 22: of the season with the drawer. You know, they've only

2059
01:41:20,213 --> 01:41:22,533
Speaker 22: had to travel to Australia once. Tomorrow will be a

2060
01:41:22,573 --> 01:41:25,293
Speaker 22: big test for them, but they've swept all before them

2061
01:41:25,333 --> 01:41:25,853
Speaker 22: so far.

2062
01:41:26,053 --> 01:41:28,933
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a brave person

2063
01:41:28,933 --> 01:41:30,093
Speaker 2: who writes them off at any point.

2064
01:41:30,173 --> 01:41:30,373
Speaker 3: Really.

2065
01:41:30,493 --> 01:41:32,773
Speaker 22: Indeed, what's on the show this afternoon, Well, the only

2066
01:41:33,053 --> 01:41:35,613
Speaker 22: guy I can think of who's watched Tim Saudi. In fact,

2067
01:41:35,653 --> 01:41:37,373
Speaker 22: I think this is the guy who's watched Tim Saudi

2068
01:41:37,453 --> 01:41:40,413
Speaker 22: the most during his Test career is bj Watling crouching

2069
01:41:40,493 --> 01:41:43,493
Speaker 22: behind the stumps for over ten years watching Tim Saudi

2070
01:41:43,613 --> 01:41:45,613
Speaker 22: charge in and take all those wickets. He's going to

2071
01:41:45,653 --> 01:41:48,533
Speaker 22: give us his recollections and memories of Tim Soudy after

2072
01:41:48,573 --> 01:41:51,493
Speaker 22: midday and after one looking forward to chatting to All

2073
01:41:51,533 --> 01:41:53,853
Speaker 22: Blacks Player of the Year Wallacetti.

2074
01:41:54,853 --> 01:41:55,493
Speaker 4: What a year.

2075
01:41:55,653 --> 01:41:58,173
Speaker 22: I mean a year ago he wasn't really even in

2076
01:41:58,253 --> 01:42:00,893
Speaker 22: the reckoning to start for the Chiefs and here he

2077
01:42:01,253 --> 01:42:03,333
Speaker 22: is All Blacks Player of the Year. So yeah, Wallace

2078
01:42:03,373 --> 01:42:05,133
Speaker 22: the TT on the show and we'll obviously keep our

2079
01:42:05,133 --> 01:42:07,653
Speaker 22: listeners across the Test match in Hamilton and the one

2080
01:42:07,693 --> 01:42:08,413
Speaker 22: at the Gaber as well.

2081
01:42:08,493 --> 01:42:10,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. I'm a deserving player of the year

2082
01:42:10,973 --> 01:42:15,373
Speaker 2: as well. Just absolute force. Yeah great, sounds like a

2083
01:42:15,493 --> 01:42:17,053
Speaker 2: very busy show. Looking forward to it. Thank you sir.

2084
01:42:17,613 --> 01:42:19,853
Speaker 2: Have a great Christmas, Jack and a mate, we'll see you.

2085
01:42:19,973 --> 01:42:21,773
Speaker 2: We'll see you in twenty five. Yeah, look forward to it.

2086
01:42:21,853 --> 01:42:25,973
Speaker 2: Thanky Piney of course bukand will still be top of

2087
01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:28,253
Speaker 2: the league no doubt when we next speak. Jason Pine

2088
01:42:28,333 --> 01:42:32,053
Speaker 2: with us this afternoon on Weekend Sport, right after the

2089
01:42:32,133 --> 01:42:35,373
Speaker 2: midday news. The black Caps thirty two for none. Will

2090
01:42:35,453 --> 01:42:38,093
Speaker 2: youngsters hit a four? It wasn't what didn't go where

2091
01:42:38,093 --> 01:42:40,773
Speaker 2: he intended to go, the leading edge, but that near mind.

2092
01:42:40,813 --> 01:42:42,293
Speaker 2: We will take the runs as they come for the

2093
01:42:42,373 --> 01:42:45,013
Speaker 2: time being, so the black Caps a. I just had

2094
01:42:45,013 --> 01:42:48,213
Speaker 2: another one there, another edge through the slips for four.

2095
01:42:48,493 --> 01:42:51,853
Speaker 2: Black Caps thirty six for none from Cedon Park and Hamilton.

2096
01:42:51,893 --> 01:42:54,373
Speaker 2: I'll make sure I give you any updates as they

2097
01:42:54,413 --> 01:42:56,373
Speaker 2: come through. Right now it is twenty four to twelve.

2098
01:42:56,813 --> 01:42:58,373
Speaker 4: No bit of way to kick off your weekend.

2099
01:42:58,533 --> 01:43:01,693
Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Ta and be

2100
01:43:01,893 --> 01:43:04,773
Speaker 1: pured on code on Z for high quality supplements.

2101
01:43:05,053 --> 01:43:07,493
Speaker 2: US Talk z MB you on to twelve on News

2102
01:43:07,533 --> 01:43:09,973
Speaker 2: Talks 'DV. Catherine Rains is our book reviewer and she's

2103
01:43:10,053 --> 01:43:12,773
Speaker 2: here with her two picks for us this weekend, Gilder.

2104
01:43:14,493 --> 01:43:14,653
Speaker 9: Check.

2105
01:43:14,973 --> 01:43:18,613
Speaker 2: Let us start off with The Crash by Kate Fernaval.

2106
01:43:18,693 --> 01:43:19,253
Speaker 2: Tell us about it.

2107
01:43:20,653 --> 01:43:23,333
Speaker 13: So this is set in Paris in nineteen thirty three,

2108
01:43:23,573 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 13: two days before Christmas, and there's an express train it's

2109
01:43:26,133 --> 01:43:28,293
Speaker 13: on its way to Strasbourg and it ends up crashing

2110
01:43:28,693 --> 01:43:31,613
Speaker 13: into another one and just on the outskirts of Paris

2111
01:43:31,733 --> 01:43:34,573
Speaker 13: due to the poor visibility. And on board this train

2112
01:43:35,453 --> 01:43:38,333
Speaker 13: Al's Marrow and he has this very shady past and

2113
01:43:38,373 --> 01:43:41,253
Speaker 13: he's always trying to stay one step ahead of the police.

2114
01:43:41,733 --> 01:43:44,813
Speaker 13: So he takes advantage of this crash and he gets

2115
01:43:46,173 --> 01:43:47,773
Speaker 13: out of the carriage and he.

2116
01:43:50,893 --> 01:43:55,013
Speaker 2: Oh, he tell you what, Catherine, We will see if

2117
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:56,413
Speaker 2: we can ring you and get you up on the

2118
01:43:56,493 --> 01:43:59,453
Speaker 2: line instead, because I think that technology is not going

2119
01:43:59,533 --> 01:44:02,933
Speaker 2: to work out terribly well if it's anything to go

2120
01:44:03,053 --> 01:44:05,213
Speaker 2: by him, and we'll see if we can grabber In

2121
01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:08,053
Speaker 2: a moment, I'm keen to hear Shear's new book, or

2122
01:44:08,173 --> 01:44:11,293
Speaker 2: the first of her two memoirs, the two part memoir

2123
01:44:11,413 --> 01:44:13,973
Speaker 2: She's just released the first one, which no doubt will

2124
01:44:14,013 --> 01:44:17,613
Speaker 2: be a massive massively supported by all Sheer fans out there.

2125
01:44:18,253 --> 01:44:21,813
Speaker 2: Over summer, I am staying in New Zealand, which is

2126
01:44:21,853 --> 01:44:23,973
Speaker 2: great news. Obviously, we are nesting a little bit in

2127
01:44:24,053 --> 01:44:25,773
Speaker 2: our house at the moment, so there's still plenty of

2128
01:44:25,893 --> 01:44:28,093
Speaker 2: chores and bits and pieces and things for me to do.

2129
01:44:28,253 --> 01:44:31,293
Speaker 2: But my plan after finishing up work this year is

2130
01:44:31,333 --> 01:44:33,453
Speaker 2: to head down to Golden Bay and Nelson, hoping to

2131
01:44:33,453 --> 01:44:36,133
Speaker 2: get a bit of time tramping as well, before making

2132
01:44:36,213 --> 01:44:38,173
Speaker 2: up for the lack of Black Caps action over the

2133
01:44:38,213 --> 01:44:41,693
Speaker 2: summer by absolutely destroying my siblings and a bit of

2134
01:44:41,733 --> 01:44:44,493
Speaker 2: backyard cricket. Catherine is back with us now killeder.

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01:44:45,533 --> 01:44:47,373
Speaker 23: Hello, our cricket sounds fun though.

2136
01:44:47,373 --> 01:44:50,133
Speaker 2: Backyard cricket, Yeah, it was always always a winning option,

2137
01:44:50,333 --> 01:44:53,773
Speaker 2: but apparently the technology wasn't in this case. So pick

2138
01:44:53,853 --> 01:44:55,973
Speaker 2: up where you were. The Crash by Kate Fernival.

2139
01:44:56,813 --> 01:44:59,093
Speaker 23: So he set two days before Christmas in Paris in

2140
01:44:59,173 --> 01:45:01,413
Speaker 23: nineteen thirty three, and this express trainer is on its

2141
01:45:01,453 --> 01:45:03,893
Speaker 23: way to Strasbourg and it crashes and a guy on board.

2142
01:45:04,013 --> 01:45:06,333
Speaker 23: Charles is a shady past and he's trying to stay

2143
01:45:06,573 --> 01:45:08,773
Speaker 23: one step ahead of the police. And then he gets

2144
01:45:08,813 --> 01:45:11,093
Speaker 23: out of the carriage and he doesn't quite realize how

2145
01:45:11,373 --> 01:45:14,093
Speaker 23: badly Injoy is, but he swaps his wallet with another man,

2146
01:45:14,213 --> 01:45:17,133
Speaker 23: hoping he'll throw off anyone that's on his tail, and

2147
01:45:17,213 --> 01:45:18,693
Speaker 23: he leaves the scene and he doesn't end.

2148
01:45:18,653 --> 01:45:19,173
Speaker 10: Up very far.

2149
01:45:19,333 --> 01:45:21,213
Speaker 23: He wakes up at a house and this woman is

2150
01:45:21,293 --> 01:45:24,413
Speaker 23: calling him by a name that he doesn't recognize, and

2151
01:45:24,613 --> 01:45:26,893
Speaker 23: she's kind of sure that she's a little bit shady

2152
01:45:26,933 --> 01:45:28,893
Speaker 23: as well. And then on the other hand, there's this

2153
01:45:28,973 --> 01:45:32,693
Speaker 23: woman called Camille, and she's part of the French civil service,

2154
01:45:33,453 --> 01:45:35,813
Speaker 23: and she was looking forward to spending Christmas with her brother,

2155
01:45:35,973 --> 01:45:38,173
Speaker 23: and she's very shocked when the police inform her that

2156
01:45:38,293 --> 01:45:41,333
Speaker 23: he was seriously hurt in a train crash. And she

2157
01:45:41,533 --> 01:45:43,573
Speaker 23: visits him and it's not her brother, and she has

2158
01:45:43,653 --> 01:45:45,973
Speaker 23: no idea what happened to him and why this stranger

2159
01:45:46,053 --> 01:45:49,533
Speaker 23: has his wallet and his identification papers, and that's sets

2160
01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:52,453
Speaker 23: off a chain of events that disrupts all sorts of

2161
01:45:52,613 --> 01:45:56,373
Speaker 23: lives and characters and traumas and lots of choices they

2162
01:45:56,453 --> 01:45:58,773
Speaker 23: make that are shape in the future gets very fast

2163
01:45:58,933 --> 01:46:02,653
Speaker 23: paced novel collection and shady characters and spints in intrigue

2164
01:46:03,293 --> 01:46:06,293
Speaker 23: with a very tense backdrop against Paris in nineteen thirty three.

2165
01:46:06,653 --> 01:46:08,733
Speaker 2: Right, okay, cool, Now I've been talking about this book

2166
01:46:08,933 --> 01:46:11,093
Speaker 2: for a little bit this morning. Tell us about Share

2167
01:46:11,173 --> 01:46:15,533
Speaker 2: the Memoir Part one. Bye, you guessed it's here, and.

2168
01:46:15,573 --> 01:46:18,173
Speaker 23: There is only one right, And this is the first volume,

2169
01:46:18,293 --> 01:46:22,773
Speaker 23: and it starts with her quite unusual trial childhood and

2170
01:46:23,053 --> 01:46:25,813
Speaker 23: dreaming of fame and fortune, and she doalves into her

2171
01:46:25,893 --> 01:46:28,493
Speaker 23: life with her mother, Georgia, who herself was an actress,

2172
01:46:28,573 --> 01:46:31,613
Speaker 23: searching for fame and shed very leading lady looks and

2173
01:46:31,733 --> 01:46:35,493
Speaker 23: this beautiful singing voice, and she is quite honest about

2174
01:46:35,533 --> 01:46:38,773
Speaker 23: her early days and this very tumultuous childhood as they

2175
01:46:38,893 --> 01:46:41,733
Speaker 23: moved around the country in search of an entertainment career

2176
01:46:42,253 --> 01:46:44,933
Speaker 23: and having to depend on family and ends up in

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01:46:45,093 --> 01:46:47,813
Speaker 23: an orphanage as her mother struggles to make ends meet.

2178
01:46:48,333 --> 01:46:50,813
Speaker 23: She still knows that she's really destined to be someone,

2179
01:46:50,933 --> 01:46:53,253
Speaker 23: and she starts modeling and she ends up singing in

2180
01:46:53,333 --> 01:46:57,213
Speaker 23: Phil Spector's studio and she eventually teams up with Sonny

2181
01:46:57,293 --> 01:47:00,133
Speaker 23: Bono and their pop stardom is Sonny and share on

2182
01:47:00,213 --> 01:47:02,733
Speaker 23: their TV show and the look at the entertainment this

2183
01:47:03,053 --> 01:47:06,173
Speaker 23: industry and navigating Hollywood and where they had to work

2184
01:47:06,213 --> 01:47:09,093
Speaker 23: and how women were exploited by the men running the show.

2185
01:47:09,333 --> 01:47:12,613
Speaker 23: And then she suddenly also realizes how poorly Sonny is

2186
01:47:12,693 --> 01:47:15,493
Speaker 23: treating her and both personally and financially, and that's a

2187
01:47:15,613 --> 01:47:18,413
Speaker 23: very piviletal moment in her life and her decision to

2188
01:47:18,533 --> 01:47:20,853
Speaker 23: leave him, And so you get lots of and you know,

2189
01:47:20,973 --> 01:47:23,453
Speaker 23: it's some tangent that it almost feels like you're sitting

2190
01:47:23,493 --> 01:47:25,453
Speaker 23: down with her and she's having a conversation with you,

2191
01:47:25,573 --> 01:47:28,173
Speaker 23: and it's entertaining. She seems to be very self aware

2192
01:47:28,213 --> 01:47:31,453
Speaker 23: and quite critical of herself and doesn't give herself a

2193
01:47:31,453 --> 01:47:33,093
Speaker 23: lot of grace for her past mistakes. I think she

2194
01:47:33,173 --> 01:47:36,293
Speaker 23: probably should. But actually I'm looking really forward to part two.

2195
01:47:36,573 --> 01:47:39,533
Speaker 23: She goes kind of deeper into her fame and fortune

2196
01:47:39,533 --> 01:47:42,533
Speaker 23: and she already made it after the Funny and She

2197
01:47:42,613 --> 01:47:46,653
Speaker 23: Is show, and she's just fascinating. She's really interesting, especially.

2198
01:47:46,293 --> 01:47:47,013
Speaker 12: Her early life.

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01:47:47,133 --> 01:47:48,653
Speaker 2: Do we know when part two is coming out?

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01:47:49,653 --> 01:47:50,613
Speaker 19: I believe it's.

2201
01:47:50,453 --> 01:47:52,573
Speaker 23: Supposed to be next year, but I think the date's

2202
01:47:52,613 --> 01:47:53,693
Speaker 23: been confirmed.

2203
01:47:54,093 --> 01:47:55,173
Speaker 2: Probably twelve months from now.

2204
01:47:55,693 --> 01:47:58,453
Speaker 23: You might be talking about it the time next year.

2205
01:47:58,573 --> 01:48:01,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, true that that sounds really good though, sounds

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01:48:01,053 --> 01:48:03,653
Speaker 2: really interesting. Okay, so that's share the Memoir Part one

2207
01:48:04,133 --> 01:48:06,933
Speaker 2: and The Crash by Kate Fernival was Catherine's book. Those

2208
01:48:06,973 --> 01:48:08,493
Speaker 2: will both be on the news talks. He'd whips I

2209
01:48:08,533 --> 01:48:12,133
Speaker 2: have a great Christmas, won't you? Catherine, you too, fantastic,

2210
01:48:12,253 --> 01:48:14,173
Speaker 2: Thank you, Katherine Rains our book review at the end.

2211
01:48:14,213 --> 01:48:15,533
Speaker 2: In a couple of minutes, we're going to play some

2212
01:48:15,613 --> 01:48:19,493
Speaker 2: new music from this Australian artist, Becker Rmony. All sorts

2213
01:48:19,533 --> 01:48:22,213
Speaker 2: of different genres she kind of weaves together on her music,

2214
01:48:22,293 --> 01:48:23,933
Speaker 2: so it's really interesting as a sound.

2215
01:48:24,293 --> 01:48:27,853
Speaker 7: Right now at sixteen to twelve, giving you the inside

2216
01:48:27,893 --> 01:48:30,573
Speaker 7: scoop on all you need to Know Saturday Mornings with

2217
01:48:30,733 --> 01:48:33,453
Speaker 7: Jack Dame and Bpure dot co dot ins it for

2218
01:48:33,613 --> 01:48:35,653
Speaker 7: high quality supplements use talks.

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01:48:35,693 --> 01:48:37,013
Speaker 4: It'd be the.

2220
01:48:37,213 --> 01:48:43,493
Speaker 24: Pain turn of Performancestniven.

2221
01:48:42,773 --> 01:48:46,213
Speaker 2: Tired of mar of the same, and there's.

2222
01:48:46,133 --> 01:48:51,613
Speaker 24: Some people checking the flame, tire of thoughts, impressed in

2223
01:48:51,693 --> 01:48:56,053
Speaker 24: the earth, look Bernie's and Wish and Welshop and Fouche

2224
01:48:57,533 --> 01:49:01,573
Speaker 24: tired of seeing the truth and forget in the face.

2225
01:49:02,893 --> 01:49:07,933
Speaker 2: This is bigger Armeney. The song is called Sober. She's

2226
01:49:07,933 --> 01:49:10,173
Speaker 2: got a new album called This Is How I Remember It,

2227
01:49:10,253 --> 01:49:12,893
Speaker 2: and the Stelle Clifford Our Music Review has been listening

2228
01:49:13,293 --> 01:49:13,573
Speaker 2: in a.

2229
01:49:14,013 --> 01:49:16,813
Speaker 25: More than just the album I needed as we're cruising

2230
01:49:16,893 --> 01:49:17,973
Speaker 25: more and more into summer.

2231
01:49:18,453 --> 01:49:19,653
Speaker 4: Her voice is.

2232
01:49:19,893 --> 01:49:24,093
Speaker 2: So good, it's beautiful. It's quite yeah, quite pure. Yeah,

2233
01:49:24,493 --> 01:49:25,653
Speaker 2: that is the perfect way to put it.

2234
01:49:25,733 --> 01:49:29,053
Speaker 25: And I think that then gives this real authenticness to

2235
01:49:29,173 --> 01:49:31,373
Speaker 25: everything that she sings about, and it draws you in

2236
01:49:31,493 --> 01:49:34,773
Speaker 25: as well, that it really sits beautifully above the music

2237
01:49:34,813 --> 01:49:37,573
Speaker 25: and the production. So that song we are Sober, I mean,

2238
01:49:38,093 --> 01:49:40,973
Speaker 25: you know, when you hear an artist have the song Sober,

2239
01:49:41,013 --> 01:49:42,653
Speaker 25: you're thinking, oh, it's going to be about drinking and

2240
01:49:42,693 --> 01:49:45,093
Speaker 25: cleaning myself up after my rock star life or whatever.

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01:49:45,253 --> 01:49:48,973
Speaker 25: But for her, it's actually more about that societal commentary

2242
01:49:49,053 --> 01:49:50,573
Speaker 25: that we all need to be a bit more sober

2243
01:49:50,653 --> 01:49:52,413
Speaker 25: and wake up to some of the things that are

2244
01:49:52,453 --> 01:49:55,733
Speaker 25: going on. So, you know, she she has that voice

2245
01:49:55,733 --> 01:49:57,613
Speaker 25: where she wants to speak out for those who maybe

2246
01:49:57,653 --> 01:50:00,493
Speaker 25: don't always get the coverage, they'd always get the support,

2247
01:50:00,773 --> 01:50:02,733
Speaker 25: and to put that into a beautiful song like that,

2248
01:50:03,653 --> 01:50:05,053
Speaker 25: it's really it's really sack with me.

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01:50:05,173 --> 01:50:05,813
Speaker 12: I really love it.

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01:50:05,893 --> 01:50:10,773
Speaker 25: There's some mpling throughout it, which is a Burundian folk song. Yeah,

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01:50:10,973 --> 01:50:13,933
Speaker 25: and it just sounds so beautiful in the production. When

2252
01:50:13,973 --> 01:50:17,213
Speaker 25: it first opens, there's no music and it's just all

2253
01:50:17,293 --> 01:50:20,653
Speaker 25: these vocal harmonies. So again one of those songs that

2254
01:50:20,773 --> 01:50:24,333
Speaker 25: just captures your attention quite quickly and really clever, and

2255
01:50:24,413 --> 01:50:27,213
Speaker 25: then with that sort of rattat drum and the cool groove,

2256
01:50:28,493 --> 01:50:30,533
Speaker 25: then you sort of sink into, you know the meaning

2257
01:50:30,573 --> 01:50:32,333
Speaker 25: of the lyrics and things. So I just there's so

2258
01:50:32,453 --> 01:50:34,333
Speaker 25: many layers to that song, and it's all about a

2259
01:50:34,373 --> 01:50:36,973
Speaker 25: message of hope, and I just think that's a beautiful

2260
01:50:37,013 --> 01:50:38,493
Speaker 25: thing to share at this time of the year.

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01:50:38,613 --> 01:50:40,213
Speaker 2: So a great artist.

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01:50:40,253 --> 01:50:42,013
Speaker 25: She actually was one of the artists who has picked

2263
01:50:42,053 --> 01:50:44,733
Speaker 25: out to perform with Coldplay, you know how with their

2264
01:50:44,773 --> 01:50:47,133
Speaker 25: Will tour, they've been doing local artists for each show.

2265
01:50:47,813 --> 01:50:49,653
Speaker 25: So she did a couple of nights with her version

2266
01:50:49,693 --> 01:50:53,213
Speaker 25: of We Pray and I've just loved seeing everyone's interpretation

2267
01:50:53,373 --> 01:50:55,773
Speaker 25: of that and they really let that artist shine and

2268
01:50:55,813 --> 01:50:58,093
Speaker 25: I mean, what a cool stage to be put on

2269
01:50:58,693 --> 01:51:01,533
Speaker 25: and then just go for it right with this huge audience.

2270
01:51:01,613 --> 01:51:03,853
Speaker 25: So she's still sort of fizzing about that, which I

2271
01:51:03,893 --> 01:51:07,733
Speaker 25: think is great other seasoned artists empowering new ones. Just

2272
01:51:08,093 --> 01:51:09,613
Speaker 25: that to me is what music is all about.

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01:51:09,693 --> 01:51:10,453
Speaker 11: So that's really cool.

2274
01:51:10,653 --> 01:51:13,413
Speaker 25: She's been nominated for the Emerging Songwriter of the Year

2275
01:51:13,693 --> 01:51:15,573
Speaker 25: at the Oprah Awards.

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01:51:15,973 --> 01:51:16,173
Speaker 2: Cool.

2277
01:51:16,493 --> 01:51:19,493
Speaker 25: Wouldn't be surprised if she takes that one out. She's

2278
01:51:19,533 --> 01:51:22,213
Speaker 25: got that really cool indie soul pop thing. There's a

2279
01:51:22,253 --> 01:51:25,293
Speaker 25: lot of orchestral leaning in the production, with a layering

2280
01:51:25,413 --> 01:51:29,053
Speaker 25: of either vocals or the instruments that come in. She's

2281
01:51:29,093 --> 01:51:31,773
Speaker 25: been produced a couple of the songs on here Josh Fountain,

2282
01:51:31,973 --> 01:51:35,613
Speaker 25: who is Bennie's producer, and she really takes you on

2283
01:51:35,693 --> 01:51:38,653
Speaker 25: a range of emotions through the album. She directed the

2284
01:51:38,773 --> 01:51:41,213
Speaker 25: music video for a song You're Gonna play a little

2285
01:51:41,213 --> 01:51:43,293
Speaker 25: snippet of called I Don't Know Why I Don't Leave You.

2286
01:51:44,373 --> 01:51:46,013
Speaker 25: I think it's so cool as well. An artists who

2287
01:51:46,013 --> 01:51:47,813
Speaker 25: are already in an early phase of her career is like,

2288
01:51:47,853 --> 01:51:51,173
Speaker 25: I want to take control of the whole artistry of

2289
01:51:51,293 --> 01:51:54,253
Speaker 25: how this album is and my songs produced, you know,

2290
01:51:54,293 --> 01:51:56,533
Speaker 25: And she had out there, and she's got that quirky, cool,

2291
01:51:56,613 --> 01:51:59,493
Speaker 25: little sense of humor that she's put in. Near the

2292
01:51:59,573 --> 01:52:00,893
Speaker 25: end of the music video. So if you get a

2293
01:52:01,013 --> 01:52:03,613
Speaker 25: chance to check out some of her video content, I think.

2294
01:52:03,813 --> 01:52:04,733
Speaker 12: You'll really enjoy it.

2295
01:52:04,813 --> 01:52:08,173
Speaker 25: And that song particular is kind of like based on

2296
01:52:08,293 --> 01:52:09,853
Speaker 25: how you think relationships are all going to be the

2297
01:52:09,933 --> 01:52:13,333
Speaker 25: notebook in Bridgeton, and then the real world happens and

2298
01:52:13,413 --> 01:52:16,813
Speaker 25: you're like, hang on, where's way writing off into the sunset?

2299
01:52:16,893 --> 01:52:18,573
Speaker 25: This is not working out so good? So I think

2300
01:52:18,613 --> 01:52:21,733
Speaker 25: it's really really cute sort of take on that. The

2301
01:52:21,773 --> 01:52:25,373
Speaker 25: whole album's VERI all theme tic, real powerful themes, and

2302
01:52:25,493 --> 01:52:29,093
Speaker 25: I think just that wonderful warmth and powerful voice that

2303
01:52:29,173 --> 01:52:32,373
Speaker 25: she has she plays with it really well. And again,

2304
01:52:32,453 --> 01:52:35,973
Speaker 25: an artist who's early in releasing her work to have

2305
01:52:36,133 --> 01:52:37,813
Speaker 25: that kind of I'm going to show off all the

2306
01:52:37,893 --> 01:52:40,573
Speaker 25: things that my voice can do. It's that confidence that

2307
01:52:40,653 --> 01:52:42,813
Speaker 25: I just I really love hearing in our artists, and

2308
01:52:42,853 --> 01:52:44,733
Speaker 25: I can only hope that that sort of stays with her.

2309
01:52:45,213 --> 01:52:47,533
Speaker 25: It's a really really beautiful album. There's sorry every time

2310
01:52:47,573 --> 01:52:49,253
Speaker 25: I listen to it, there's something else that sort of

2311
01:52:49,333 --> 01:52:52,493
Speaker 25: captures me. And I love those kind of albums because

2312
01:52:52,493 --> 01:52:53,733
Speaker 25: you can stay with them for a long time.

2313
01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:53,973
Speaker 4: Right.

2314
01:52:54,253 --> 01:52:57,333
Speaker 2: I love the because I've listened a few of the tracks,

2315
01:52:57,413 --> 01:52:59,293
Speaker 2: I just love the kind of bleaning of different styles.

2316
01:52:59,333 --> 01:53:00,053
Speaker 2: I'm really into that.

2317
01:53:00,213 --> 01:53:01,853
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.

2318
01:53:01,933 --> 01:53:04,733
Speaker 25: She's taking that full scope of thing a musician, right

2319
01:53:04,813 --> 01:53:07,213
Speaker 25: and actually putting that all in the album and trying

2320
01:53:07,253 --> 01:53:09,413
Speaker 25: it and not sort of sitting with all has to

2321
01:53:09,493 --> 01:53:10,733
Speaker 25: be this and sound like this.

2322
01:53:10,773 --> 01:53:11,653
Speaker 12: Throughout the whole album.

2323
01:53:11,973 --> 01:53:14,293
Speaker 25: So again, I really love that, and I think having

2324
01:53:14,373 --> 01:53:16,613
Speaker 25: different producers on a few of the different songs throughout

2325
01:53:16,733 --> 01:53:19,613
Speaker 25: has really helped that because they've sort of gone, hey,

2326
01:53:19,933 --> 01:53:22,133
Speaker 25: here's how we can highlight it and push it. And

2327
01:53:22,213 --> 01:53:24,413
Speaker 25: she's been really open to that process. And I think

2328
01:53:24,653 --> 01:53:27,013
Speaker 25: because often a one album is album is produced by

2329
01:53:27,053 --> 01:53:30,173
Speaker 25: one producer, but to have influence from a lot of

2330
01:53:30,173 --> 01:53:31,853
Speaker 25: different people, I mean that's a great thing for her

2331
01:53:31,933 --> 01:53:34,293
Speaker 25: to going forward because who you know is you know

2332
01:53:35,173 --> 01:53:38,613
Speaker 25: it helps out right in the music industry. So I

2333
01:53:38,653 --> 01:53:41,093
Speaker 25: think that's that's a great, smart kind of thing for her.

2334
01:53:41,133 --> 01:53:44,013
Speaker 25: But she's obviously enjoying that collaboration, which is really nice.

2335
01:53:44,053 --> 01:53:46,213
Speaker 25: And you hear it, you hear it in this album.

2336
01:53:46,133 --> 01:53:49,893
Speaker 2: So very good. What'd you give it here?

2337
01:53:49,933 --> 01:53:50,293
Speaker 14: We got it?

2338
01:53:50,813 --> 01:53:51,133
Speaker 11: Shall I?

2339
01:53:52,293 --> 01:53:52,453
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2340
01:53:52,533 --> 01:53:54,093
Speaker 25: Go on at the end of the year, I'm just

2341
01:53:54,173 --> 01:53:54,733
Speaker 25: smashing up.

2342
01:53:55,653 --> 01:53:56,933
Speaker 2: Very good there's nothing wrong with that.

2343
01:53:57,493 --> 01:53:59,373
Speaker 25: I love I feel like I've saved them all to

2344
01:53:59,413 --> 01:54:01,293
Speaker 25: the end of the year. Perhaps I'm just more open

2345
01:54:01,333 --> 01:54:02,893
Speaker 25: to some happy I.

2346
01:54:02,973 --> 01:54:04,973
Speaker 2: Know you're just that. You know, you just got the

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Speaker 2: Christmas spirit about you and even part of your life

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Speaker 2: right now. I love it, Okay, ten out of ten

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Speaker 2: for how I remember it, superb. You have yourself a

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Speaker 2: wonderful Christmas, won't Jay look forward to catching up for

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Speaker 2: the new year. And thank you for everything this year, Estelle,

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Speaker 2: all of your teens, all of the not quite teens

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Speaker 2: as well. We appreciate it. A Stelle Clifford is our

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Speaker 2: music reviewer. Ten out of teens you reckons. Becca Amani's

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Speaker 2: album is worth We're going to have a bit more

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Speaker 2: of a listener at a couple of minutes, so you know.

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Speaker 2: The Black Cavs still without having lost a wicket forty

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Speaker 2: six for none off just over twelve overs at Edton

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Speaker 2: Park in Hamilton. Tom Laitham on eighteen, were young on

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Speaker 2: seventeen not out right now It's eight to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and vpwre dot co do dot insdead for

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Speaker 1: high quality supplements, news talk.

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Speaker 3: Sa'd be.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe the show's over, and I cannot believe

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Speaker 2: this year is over for me at the very least.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just love spending my Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 2: you so much. I just feel so privileged to do

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Speaker 2: this job and to spend our saturdays together. So thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for tuning in throughout the year. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for all of your texts and emails

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Speaker 2: and everything. I just I really really appreciate it, and

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Speaker 2: I feel so lucky. Like I said, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: have a bit of a summer with DFANO in Nelson

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Speaker 2: and Golden Bay, Wellington as well, So really looking forward

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Speaker 2: to that. Lots of backyard cricket, barbecues, all that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff, time with the nieces and nephews, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: hopefully my wife not getting too uncomfortable as she grows

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Speaker 2: ever larger in the best possible way. Well, mind you,

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Speaker 2: given the Christmas streets, it will no doubt be available

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Speaker 2: at the Tame Household. We're all going to be growing

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Speaker 2: ever larger. Thanks to Libby and to Andy for doing

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Speaker 2: the tough stuff all the buttons and dials. For today's show,

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine is going to be with you, taking you

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Speaker 2: through the afternoon with weekend sport. Keeping up today with

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Speaker 2: the black Caps in England on day one of the

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Speaker 2: Third Tests in Hamilton. We're going to leave you with

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Speaker 2: Becka r. Mary. The song is called I Don't Know

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Speaker 2: Why I don't leave you. I will be back with

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Speaker 2: you in twenty twowenty five. Until then, Mary, Katy, Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 2: hit a fantastic New Year, and see you're soon. Save

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Speaker 2: way one of them. I save for one of them.

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Speaker 6: Somebody that using it will have somebody who want here waiting.

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Speaker 6: Somebody who say it save more can be facing shadows.

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Speaker 24: I think this time, I think this time.

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Speaker 2: I think it.

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Speaker 3: I think this tim Leave you.

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Speaker 1: For more From Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live

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Speaker 1: to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow

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