1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge you for 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture vents and a play at store News Talks. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: He'd be good morning. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: It is six half to five News Talk Sai'd be 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: great to have you with me on this Thursday morning. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: More transport trouble the City rail link. There's an update 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: on that this morning. We're going to talk to former 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Transport Minister Morris Williamson about this. Also the cuts too 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: in New Zealand flights. David Seymour on the PPGA charter 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: schooled U tune the mood of the boardroom. We have 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 3: all the tea, all the goths on our politicians, plus 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: Mitch McCann in the US on the port strikes. Could 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: it hurt us? 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: The agenda? 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the third of October. Israel and his 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: bill are still going at it on the ground in 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: southern eleven and IDF says eight of its soldiers have died. 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: The U N Security Councils held in emergency meeting. 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: Say thing for the secession well steel. If he's in 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Lebanon re elections, what's full. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 4: Implementation of security CONCU resolutions. 23 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: Also in developments this morning, Israel has banned Antonio Guterres 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: from entering the country, saying he's too sympathetic to the terrorists. 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: Russian troops have taken control of Valladea, a city of 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Ukraine has been defending since the start of the invasion 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: more than two years ago. It'll get Russian troops much 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: closer to other cities with connections to key regional transport 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: routes and help them advance north. So that is not 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: good for Ukraine. The death toll from Hurricane Helene has 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: climbed to one hundred and eighty overnight with search and 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: rescue if it's still underway. 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: I don't have power, power, water, foods. 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: There's no water, there's no internet, there's no food. 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: And volunteers are now delivering supplies on horses and using 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: ATVs back home. Core Logics September House Value Index shows 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: another drop. Values were down half a percent last month. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: Add that to the dayward trend, it's now reached a 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: total of four point seven percent down nationally since February 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: this year. 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: The News you Need this Morning and the in depth 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and FIS City New 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store. 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: News talks that'd be. 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: Should Air New Zealand prioritize profit or running half empty flights? 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: The so called social responsibility thing is wearing its head 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: again because in New Zealand is cutting services, not necessarily flights, 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: but capacity on a lot of routes, particularly regional routes 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: affecting mostly Queenstown, Dunedin Wellington. The reality is we don't 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: have the demand. And if we don't have the demand 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: on these routes, should we have the flights? I don't 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: think so. If we subsidize, and you know, continually subsidize 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: and try and prop up in New Zealand on flights 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: that aren't competitive, then we'll probably going to drive away 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: any potential competitors they might have, which is bad for 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: all of us. I just wonder what you think about this. 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the number to text. What 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 3: are your thoughts? So the cuts to flights and capacity 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: Queenstown Dunedin, it means more than one hundred fewer seats 60 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: on some flights because they're changing the type of aircraft 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 3: that they use. Christ Church to New Plymouth that's been 62 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: reduced and of course we spoke yesterday about Invercargol to 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: Wellington being cut all together, which is a real shame 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: because you have to go through christ Church. Not that 65 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: there's anything wrong with christ Church, which just that it 66 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: takes you much longer to get to where you want 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: to go. Nine two nine two is the number. I'll 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: tell you what the mood of the boardroom is soon 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: the Herald's mood of the boardroom. And just nice to 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: see people ranked, isn't it, and who's done well and 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: who hasn't. I loved watching the debate yesterday with Tim 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: Walls and JD Evans, just because it was a lot 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: nicer and we're not used to nice debates. Really enjoyed it. 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: It was a good watch, a lot of back and 75 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: forth on policy, much more reasonable than the Trump Harris Show. 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: They had a good actually a good discussion about tariffs 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: and obviously Trump at al want the America first thing 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: manufacturing jobs. There was a lot they agreed on. The 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: moderators were annoying. I don't know if you watched it, 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: how did you find them that, Particularly at the start 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: when they were just trying to button all the time. 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: That was annoying. But that calmed down as well, so 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: it was actually quite enjoyable by the end. JD. Varance 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: was really quite clever on abortion. He sounded reasonable, and 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: his goal was to go in there and try and 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: be sound reasonable to suburban women because they're obviously a 87 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: flight risk for the Republicans. So will it shift the dial. 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: No. 89 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: But the most interesting bit, well, the best bit actually 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: was wolves spent some time in China. You'll probably know 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: that by now, and he says he was in Hong 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: Kong during the Tianeman Square massacre. Right. He says he 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: was in Hong Kong at the time, and then there's 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: a report saying actually he was in America, and he's 95 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: asked about this. He does a long, fumbly answer, and 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 3: then he's asked to clarify again, and that's when this happens. 97 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 7: All I said on this was is I got there 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 7: that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just 99 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 7: that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 7: and the democracy protest went in and from that I 101 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 7: learned a lot of what needed to be in governance. 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: So you weren't in Hong Kong, It's not probably not 103 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 3: that important. But it just made for some really awkward 104 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: debate television. Twelve minutes after five, Brian Bridge, Right, I've 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: promised you the moud of the mood rather of the boardroom, 106 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: and we will get to that. 107 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 2: Next. 108 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 3: We're going to speak to well, one of the guys 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: who's been getting it all together for print. It's out 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: in the Herald today if you want to go and 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: pick it up. Duncan Bridgeman, managing editor of Ends INNY Business, 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: is with us next. 113 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand, 115 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: Furniture Beds and a playing store News talk zi'd be. 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: Fourteen after five. Rent Crewed futures are down slightly, around 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: two and a half percent. This on the back of 118 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: the news out of the Middle East. The S and 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: P five hundred, the Nasdaq and the Dow down slightly overnight, 120 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 3: but not a huge impact. Not a massive impact. War 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: in the Middle East, I suppose, not hugely shocking, though 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: there are some jitters over how Israel is going to 123 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: respond to that. We'll have more on that in the 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: next half hour of the program. Just gone quarter past five, 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge, Right now, to the juice, the mood of 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: the boardroom, How did our executive fear? This is basically 127 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: our business leaders judging our politicians, and we all love 128 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: a bit of that, don't we. Erica Stanford came out 129 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: on top at number one of the of the choices here, 130 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: four point zero one out of five, Simon Brown, Nichola Willis, 131 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: and Chris Bishop up there too. Luxon came in sixth, 132 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: Winston Peters seventh, David Seymour He's done in twelve, sandwiched 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: between Andrew Bailey and Simon Watts. Overall, the sentiment seems 134 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: to be quite good from our business leaders for the 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: direction that the government is taking. And we're going out 136 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: to Duncan Bridgman, who is the managing editor of nzenmy 137 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: Business for the mood of the boardroom. Dunkin, good morning, Oh, 138 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: good morning, Ryan, thanks for being with me. What is 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: the mood? 140 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, as you said, they have ranked the politicians 141 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 6: and that's one thing, but they've also given us an 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 6: insight into their own thinking around the economy, how they 143 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 6: think their business will fare themselves, and the general kind 144 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 6: of business environment. So there's one hundred and three chief 145 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 6: executives and a coupleoard shares involved in this, and we 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 6: go out to them in August and September with a 147 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: range of questions. As you touched on, we took they 148 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 6: gave us feedback on the cabinet the government's top ranked politicians, 149 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 6: and number one was Eric at Stanford as you mentioned that, 150 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: with the score of four point one out of five. 151 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 6: Now that means that very impressive is five and not 152 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 6: very impressive as one. So she's obviously scoring well and 153 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 6: the executives obviously liked what she's doing in the education 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: portfolio was obviously back to basics reforms that's happening. Where 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 6: Christopher Luxen as Prime Minister, came in at six with 156 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 6: three points seven three, so above average, but he is 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 6: ranked six in the cabinet, so you know we're looking 158 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: at that, and as you mentioned, there's some others in there, 159 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 6: Chris Bishop nicola Willis Judith Collins, all scoring well. So 160 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: it's a pretty positive look at the at the top cabinet, right. 161 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: Interesting the comments surrounding the saying the message seeming to 163 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: be time to focus on the future, a positive future 164 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: rather than just bashing labor. Kind of put that behind you. 165 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely there was a theme that came through. We've 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 6: had a year now of a new government and yes 167 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 6: they've had to what they describe as unwind a lot 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 6: of things that were put in place. So the business 169 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 6: community is saying, right, you've done that. Now is time 170 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 6: to take some bold steps to really spurady the economic 171 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 6: growth that's needed. So I think there's definitely some uncertainty 172 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: there around the delivery that crystal Lux and his team 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 6: can can pull through. They're obviously making good headway on 174 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 6: some things, but then there's other constraints such the things 175 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 6: like cost blowouts and infrastructure projects are the big sort 176 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 6: of issues with Sdneden Hospital and of course the very 177 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 6: infrastructure problems. So yeah, there's a bit of uncertained whether 178 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 6: whether the delivery will come through there. 179 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Duncan thank you very much for that. Dunkin Bridgeman, 180 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: who's the managing editor of NZ and ME Business, go 181 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: and pick up you copy the Herald this morning. It's 182 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: got the mood of the boardroom. If you are interested. 183 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: There's a huge well, it's quite thick. I could probably 184 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: make a sound if I dropped it on the desk. 185 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: It's in the Herald today, just gone nineteen minutes after five. 186 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: We're going to talk to David Seymour next. We'll ask 187 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: him about his result in this mood of the boardroom, 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: but also about the PPTA. They've done a bit of 189 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: a U tune on their charter school's position. We'll look 190 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: into that next on. 191 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with Ryan 192 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and applying 193 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: store News Talk zed be. 194 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: Twenty one after five news talks. They'd be great to 195 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: have your company this morning, nine two nine tours. The 196 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: number to text will get to your messages in just 197 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: a few seconds. The PPTA has done a bit of 198 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: a U turn on charter schools at their annual conference. 199 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: They're going to allow teachers who work in charter schools 200 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: future charter schools to still be members of the union. Also, 201 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: they are removing gender from their constitution, and they are 202 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: voting on becoming a peace organization with the ability to 203 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: lobby the government on foreign affairs of all things. David 204 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: Seymour is the Associate Education Minister, He's the guy behind 205 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: charter schools and he's with us this morning. Hi minister, 206 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: how are you? 207 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 8: Oh? Good. 208 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: Thanks, how are you. 209 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you. Good to have you on the show. 210 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: I think it's the first time for well since I've 211 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: been on here. 212 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 6: Anyway, let's think I believe it's taken this long. 213 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: I know, I know, But here we are the PPTO. 214 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: What is this about. Do you think they're just trying 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: to make sure they've got enough members to pay their 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: subs and fees for their union. 217 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 8: Well, I'm a bit puzzled by because the PPTA have 218 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 8: been really, really aggressive against charter schools, and I think 219 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 8: it's important to separate the everyday teacher that you know 220 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 8: and love from the union organizers in Wellington who take 221 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 8: the fees and do all the more political activism. It's 222 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 8: those organizers who have been so opposed to charter schools 223 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 8: for such a long time, and I think that probably 224 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 8: they're reading the tea leaves and saying, look, you know, 225 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 8: we spend over three hundred thousand dollars per citizen on 226 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 8: education in this country, and yet so many people come 227 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 8: out completely disengaged, without the most basic skills required to 228 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 8: navigate society in the twenty first century. So you know, 229 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 8: we've got to do something different. Charter schools are a 230 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 8: huge opportunity for those students, but they're also a massive 231 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 8: opportunity for teachers, because what we're basically saying is, look, 232 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 8: you know, get the children to attend and achieve, will 233 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 8: give you the money that we would have spent on 234 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 8: them at a traditional state school, but we'll give you 235 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 8: total flexibility about how you do it. And I see 236 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 8: that as a massive liberation for teachers. 237 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: So we. 238 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 8: Had to change your heart. 239 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 3: Maybe they feel the same way, and they are saying 240 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: it's because state schools will be able to convert into 241 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: charter schools. Do you think there'll be much of that happening? 242 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there will. I mean it's a good 243 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 8: proposition for a state school. If you are getting the results, 244 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 8: or you believe you can get the results that you're 245 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 8: going to be contracted for student attendance and student achievement, 246 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 8: then basically you'll get given your money that you would 247 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 8: have got otherwise, but be given flexibility about how you 248 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 8: do it. So really, with charter schools, we're just saying 249 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 8: we're not going to meddle, we're not going to stipulate, 250 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 8: we're not going to tell you what to do or 251 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 8: how to do it. But what we are going to 252 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 8: do is give you your share of the education funding 253 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 8: you would have god anyway, and hold you accountable for 254 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 8: children showing up and at achieving, which I think is 255 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 8: a good proposition for people that have good ideas. 256 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: Have you seen the mood of the boardroom? The hell's 257 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: mood of the boardroom this morning? It's got you way 258 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: down the list in terms of how you fed with 259 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: the CEOs and number twelve with a score of three 260 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: point four out of five. It's got you actually wedge 261 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: between Andrew Bailey and Simon Watts. Some of the comments 262 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: from them, a professional director said, you've become a bit 263 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: too extreme in your views. Maybe you're losing their support 264 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: of your supporters. Do you have any comment on that? 265 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: Have you seen that? 266 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 8: No, I haven't seen it. I think they've published it 267 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 8: at five am and you have five clearly. But I'm 268 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 8: not surprised by that, because you know, one of the 269 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 8: things about me and ACT is that we're not afraid 270 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 8: to take positions that may be controversial if we think 271 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 8: that there is a need to do it. One of 272 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 8: the things I find about corporate New Zealand is that 273 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 8: they're pretty conservative. I'm pretty afraid of taking positions. So 274 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 8: when they say extreme that they're really saying, oh, we 275 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 8: don't like perhaps what you're saying about the role of 276 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 8: the Treaty of White Tongue that actually, I think our 277 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 8: society needs someone that says that. That would be my 278 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 8: guess about where they're coming from. That Actually, if you 279 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 8: look at what Actor is doing in terms of government 280 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 8: spending and reducing waste, what we're doing in terms of regulation, 281 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 8: then actually we're doing a lot that is good for 282 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 8: business and ultimately good for workers and good for customers. 283 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 8: But you know, I can understand that corporate in New 284 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 8: Zealand can be pretty conservative. When you start taking on 285 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 8: hard issues, there will be some of them that disagree 286 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 8: and that pulls your efforts down. So that doesn't surprise me. 287 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: All Right, I'll let you go and read the read 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: the hero fold out. David, thank you very much for 289 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: coming on the show. I really appreciate it, and we 290 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: won't leave it too long before we have you back. 291 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. That's David's or who's the EC party leader 292 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: of course, and the Associate Education when it's the coming 293 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: up next why they should leave Casey Costello alone. 294 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: The early edition Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio power by 295 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: News Talks. 296 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: AB. 297 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: You're on News Talks. It be just gone twenty eight 298 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: minutes after five o'clock. This is what they're saying about 299 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: Casey Costello. 300 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: Resign, resign, resign, resign, resign. 301 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Okay, we might have played it five times, but Eicheverel 302 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: says that she should resign along with the Health Coalitionale 303 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: Tedo or etc. But if hysteria over Casey Costello and smoking, 304 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: the real proof will be in the pudding. If smoking 305 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: rates come down, does it really matter how she did it? 306 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: And if it was a non tobacco company getting a 307 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: tax cut to provide these heat not burned the less 308 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: harmful than SIGGI products, would there be outrage or are 309 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: we being a bit blinded by the fact that it's 310 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: a multinational who is normally in the business of selling cigarettes. 311 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: Are we being rational about this isn't the ultimate goal 312 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: to reduce smoking? And if it is, shouldn't we wait 313 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: and see whether she's able to do that? Twenty minutes 314 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: after five year on News Talks, he'd be Marris Williamson 315 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: coming up after five point thirty. He's the former Transport minister, 316 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: so we'll ask him about in New Zealand, about the fairies, 317 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: but also the story out this morning on the city 318 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: rail Link. Once it's up and running, will they actually 319 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: run on time and at top speed? Interesting yarn this morning. 320 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Stay with US. 321 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: News and Views you trust to start your day. 322 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 323 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store. 324 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be. 325 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 3: Good morning. It is twenty four away from six year 326 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: old news Talk sai'd be Mitch McCann out of the 327 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: US in just a few moments. Big strikes, fifty thousand 328 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: members of the ports unions and the United States going 329 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: on strike. It will affect us, it will affect our exports. 330 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: We're going to talk transport, more transport trouble. We've had 331 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: the fairies, We've had the New Zealand flights. This morning 332 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: it's the trains in Auckland. It is really hard to 333 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: get around this little country of ours, isn't it. Marris 334 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: Williamson will tell us why he's former Transport Minister and 335 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: currently on council. Lots of your feedback coming in. Brendan 336 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: says in New Zealand should operate completely separately from a 337 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: government handout this after they cut some capacity on flights 338 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: and also some routes. On David Seymour, who we've just 339 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: had on the program, this is interesting because I think 340 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: it's quite telling. Seymour is the weak link in the coalition. 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: He's acting like you did during the election campaign when 342 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: he said he might sit on the cross benches. Remember 343 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 3: that that resulted in act vote dropping. Says this quite 344 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: astute listener. But you can ask please would you put 345 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: your name when you send it in a text? I 346 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: just like to know roughly who you are. Thank you, 347 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: Dan says morning love the show, just getting the cows 348 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: and Dan, thank you because you've put your in there. 349 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: Another says on Casey Costello. She is in the government. 350 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: She's got the job to get the smoking rates down. 351 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: She calls the shops Verril, that is Aisha Viral from 352 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: Labor needs to pull a hidden twenty two to six. 353 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. 354 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: She's got to our reporters around the country. Callum Proctor 355 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: is in Dunedin. Calum, first of all, a lot of 356 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 3: rain last night. 357 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 9: Here's certainly a lot of rain and it's still falling 358 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 9: in duned and it's meant to get worse from here. 359 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 9: Though our heavy rain warnings sort of sets in later 360 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 9: today and overnight through into Friday, so close watch on 361 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 9: those on those. 362 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: River and stream levels around the region. This morning, all right, 363 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: good to know Otaga University expanding into Queenstown. 364 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, looking at creating a permanent presence in the resort town. 365 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 9: This despite Queenstown having a real a short John howsing 366 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 9: average property values increased by fifty percent in the last 367 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 9: five years, tourism operators are having to purchase empty hotels 368 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 9: to How's workers in and now with university planning on 369 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 9: setting up shop, it could create extra pressure. Vice Chancellor 370 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 9: Grant Robertson says it would be irresponsible for them to 371 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 9: bring a large number of students to Queenstown and not 372 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: add to the housing stock there. He says they will 373 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 9: work with properly developers and look at accommodation options. The 374 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 9: Queenstown Mayor, Glenn Lewis, is excited at this news, seeing 375 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 9: university's long term strategic vision of growing a tech sector 376 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 9: in Queenstown come to life. 377 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: A nice one. Thank you, Claire Schubert and christ Church. 378 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: This morning, Hey, clear, a bit of a fight over 379 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: those food trucks. 380 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 10: Bit of a fight, all right, Ryan, Look, the Central 381 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 10: City business groups are pushing back on plans to or 382 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 10: request rather to allow food trucks on the Art Center 383 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 10: site is twelve hours a day, seven days per week. 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 10: The Arts Center is applying to allow thirty three food 385 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 10: trucks to do that. Christ Church City Council is assessing 386 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 10: that application, which the Central City Business Association says is 387 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 10: unfair on those that are paying in the city rates. 388 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 10: The association chair Annabel Turley, presented a petition to council 389 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 10: yesterday urging it to pull all funding of the Art Center. 390 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 10: She says it's a permanent encroachment on businesses that have 391 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 10: invested their blood, sweat and dollars into the city. 392 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather going, Claire? 393 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 9: Not as bad here. 394 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 10: A bit of scattered rain about will ease this afternoon 395 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 10: and clear by evening. Southwesterly is turning easterly high of thirteen. 396 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: Nice one, Thank you. I'm on the side of the businesses, 397 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: by the way, I don't think the food truck It's 398 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: not fair to have the food trucks undercutting your year's 399 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: stores or your bricks and watar max Is and Wellington 400 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: max Good morning. What to do with pro Palestine graffiti. 401 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, good morning. Ethan Manera, reporter in our newsroom, asked 402 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 11: for city council correspondence regarding this increasing prevalence of pro 403 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 11: Palestine graffiti around the city, flags, slogans, etc. What it 404 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 11: shows is that councilors, the mayor even all weighing in 405 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 11: and no clear consensus at the mayor. For instance, some councilors, 406 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 11: Rebecca Matthews for instance, seem to be keen for some 407 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 11: of it to stay. Please don't paint over the flags 408 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 11: is the message. But then you've got I got some 409 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 11: high officials saying we still have to treat this stuff 410 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 11: like in the other graffiti, perhaps with more sensitivity. Though 411 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 11: also asked by a top official what if it were 412 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 11: an Israeli flag, he believed we should take essentially the 413 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 11: same approach this senior council official. And again at the 414 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 11: more extreme level, you've had red paint thrown across the 415 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 11: Israeli Embassy, Defense Force Office, Massy's art campus covered in 416 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 11: Palestine slogans at the university there reacted by immediately painting 417 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 11: over it. So a hot topic of discussion at the moment. 418 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting what they're doing in New South 419 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: Wales with us. I'll explain it shortly, but you're with 420 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: a today mix. 421 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 11: Some early rain easing this afternoon high of seventeen in 422 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 11: the city. 423 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Neighva's and Auckland. Good morning, Neva, good morning. 424 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 5: I'm out of sorts today. 425 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: What's wrong? 426 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 8: Well? 427 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: I started off, I weaned into the studio. This is 428 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: just before five o'clock to read the five o'clock news, obviously, 429 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 5: and I forgot my glasses, my reading glasses. So we're 430 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 5: in the car downstairs in the basement. 431 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: Can you see without them? 432 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: No? I can't. It was about nine minutes to five, 433 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 5: okme rushing out of me. Do you think I have 434 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: time to go down in the lift and get my 435 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 5: glasses before I read Ryan's news. I went, plenty of time, 436 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: plenty of time, took my swipe card, forgot my car keys, 437 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: got down there, I went, oh my gosh. Then came 438 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 5: back up and I went, no, don't have. 439 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: Time, sweaty and blind correct Well, congregulation, Well the. 440 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: Making some stuff up? 441 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 9: No it wasn't. 442 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 5: I wasn't making it up. 443 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: But I was. 444 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: You're a true professional. Hey, you tell me about the 445 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: Modotapo Island. It's pas three. 446 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 5: Yes, I can see this story. So look, over the 447 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: past five months, the Department of Conservation tried multiple methods 448 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 5: this is to catch it's called the lone Norwegian rat. 449 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 5: And the Norwegian rat isn't from Norway. I just got 450 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: to tell you that because when I saw the story, 451 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 5: I went, what is it from Norway and they went, no, 452 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: it's not. But it was first spotted in late April 453 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: and then it was filmed stocking up on toxic baita 454 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 5: nearly August. But it hasn't been seen since. So you know, 455 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 5: they got a detection dog there they found nothing. So 456 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 5: DOC said, look, we can confidently say the rat is dead. 457 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 5: And so, just for those who want to know, apparently 458 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 5: it's not known why the brown red is called ratt 459 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 5: is norvigi kis the Norwegian rat because it didn't originate 460 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 5: from Norway. I would have done more research, but didn't 461 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: have time. 462 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 3: Without my glasses, it's sufficient information. How's the weather today, Well. 463 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 5: We've had all that, you know, heavy rain, thunder and 464 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 5: you know those strong winds, but I can tell you 465 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 5: that there's going to be fine breaks developing this morning. 466 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Seventeen's the high sounds good. Neva thank you for that. 467 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 3: I'll let you go and collect your glasses before you 468 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: read the six o'clock news. That's Neva and Auckland. It 469 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: is seventeen minutes away from six. Transport. Are lots of 470 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: good texts coming in on in New Zealand flights and 471 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: how much they're costing. You will get to those shortly soon. 472 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind 473 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 474 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: Fourteen away from six news talks. They'd be great to 475 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: have your company. The US President Joe Biden has just 476 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: said there'll be more sanctions to come on Iran. Mitch 477 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: McCann is our US correspondent is with us this morning. Hey, Mitch, 478 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: morning Ryan, how are you good. Thank you, Good to 479 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 3: have you on the show. Hey. The port strikes that 480 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: are going on in the US are going to impact 481 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: us here in New Zealand. Yeah, they certainly are. 482 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 12: Fifty thousand members of America's largest port workers unions and 483 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 12: our own strike throughout US ports. They are demanding a 484 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 12: five dollars an hour increase and pay every year for 485 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 12: the next six years. They also want guarantees around automation 486 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 12: or semi automation because they want to keep their jobs 487 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 12: in the future. Wide a week here, well, this is 488 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 12: likely to cripple US ports on the East Coast and 489 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 12: New Zealand exporters are likely to be affected by congestion 490 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 12: and delays. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade at 491 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 12: Home advises exporters to stay in contact with their freight 492 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 12: companies to see what options are available for them, and 493 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 12: while the strike continues, to also keep in touch with 494 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 12: their US customers to inform them about potential delays in 495 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 12: the coming weeks. 496 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: Let's hope it doesn't push things too far. Let's go 497 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: to North Carolina. The death well, actually number of states 498 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: have been impacted by this and the death toll rising 499 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: from Hurricane Helen. 500 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, Ryan, the images coming out of some of these 501 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 12: states affected by Hurricane Helene are devastating. It's now the 502 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 12: second deadliest hurricane to hi the United States mainland in 503 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 12: fifty years, after Hurricane Katrina. The death told the stonern 504 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 12: stands at one hundred and eighty people. That's expected to rise. 505 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 12: The toll in North Carolina you just mentioned is ninety 506 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 12: one people. And Joe Biden, the President, has now approved 507 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 12: one thousand active duty soldiers to assist in the response 508 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 12: in North Carolina. This is obviously still developing. Many people 509 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 12: are still missing. In fact, as of last night in 510 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 12: the state of Tennessee, eighty five people still missing after 511 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 12: this deadly hurricane. 512 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: Mitch, thank you, Mitch mccanna, US correspondent with US this morning, 513 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: just gone at. 514 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Twelve to six Bryan Bridge. 515 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: More transport trouble today. Concerns from Wayne Brown that when 516 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: the City RAILNK opens this is the railway in Auckland 517 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: City in twenty twenty six, they won't run on time 518 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: because Kiwi Raw's tracks won't be sorted. In New Zealand, 519 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: regional fights, capacity have been cats, fairy problems on the 520 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: cook straight potholes on the road. How on earth are 521 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: we meant to get around this good country of ours? 522 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: Morris Williamson, former Transport Minister and Aukan City councilor with US. Morris, 523 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: good morning, good running. Are you confident when the City 524 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: rail Link opens the trains will run on time and 525 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 3: run at top speed? 526 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: No? 527 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 3: Why not? 528 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: Well? The City Rail Link a story that just keeps 529 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 4: on giving in terms of it was originally going to 530 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 4: be two billion, then it was going to be four. 531 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: Currently it's five and a half. I'm told from some 532 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 4: insiders within Treasury you can add quite a bit onto 533 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 4: the five and a half when it's finally complete. The 534 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: opening date was twenty twenty one. We're up to twenty 535 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 4: twenty six now that's not necessarily when it will be running. 536 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: And then you've got all the impact on the roading network. 537 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: If you think of the number of level crossings in 538 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: the city, if you've got a high frequency of trains 539 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 4: using the network when it's all open, you're going to 540 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: have cars backed up to Africa sitting at level crossings 541 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: with the barriers down on, the bells ringing, and the 542 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: impact on the motor vehicle fleet will be horrendous as well. 543 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 4: So and then here we Rail say that some of 544 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: their network's not up to full speed usage. So even 545 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: though they closed our line out here, the Eastern Line 546 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: for all year to try and bring it up the scratch. 547 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: So so if you're not confident, okay, not confident, if 548 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: you knew then what you know? Now? Should we have 549 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: ever done it? Or do you just have to wear 550 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: the stuff. 551 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: I'm lucky enough to be in a position when the 552 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: National Party Caucus and I made sure they recorded it 553 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: at the time, I was one of the few voices 554 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: that said this is a nightmare, don't go near it. 555 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: Back in twenty fifteen, I think it was when it 556 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: was being proposed. The mayor at the time, Len Brown, 557 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: got to be careful with our Brown's hit. Len Brown 558 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: was all gung ho or I just knew that anyone 559 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: proposing something like a tunnel at two billion. My foolish 560 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: comment at the time was I think it'll be at 561 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: least twice that. Before it was that it's going to 562 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: be it's going to be three times out if not four. 563 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: Hey, just on Air New Zealand cutting some capacity in 564 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: some regional flights around New Zealand. Is that fair enough? 565 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: I mean they have to look at demand and make 566 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: business decisions, don't they. 567 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: Correct If you want to do anything about providing a 568 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 4: social service, then I think that's the role of a 569 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: government to say we'll put a subsidy in place and 570 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: offer whoever wants to. There may be small regional airlines 571 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 4: that want to pick up that and run smaller planes 572 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: or whatever. But if you think about Air New Zealand, 573 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: it's a commercial business. It's got to sit there every day, 574 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: look at its load factors decide what its profitability is doing, 575 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: and it should not be in any way that have 576 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: been some social agency. Let's run a whole lot of 577 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: things that are lost just to be nice. That's ridiculous, Morris. 578 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: We've got about sixty seconds left. I want your helicopter 579 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: view on transp in New Zealand, because you know, we 580 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: can potholes on the roads. We've got trains that won't 581 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: go fast enough, we've got planes that won't go anywhere, 582 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: fairies that are sitting there. Well, actually we don't have 583 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: the fairies even on order. What is the problem here. 584 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: Well, there's one serious problem with New Zealand, and that 585 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: is we've got so few people. Five million isn't even 586 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: a modest city elsewhere. So the whole country is smaller 587 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: than Sydney, the whole country smaller than Melbourne population wise, 588 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: and yet we've got a sort of a champagne appetite 589 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: on a beer income. So people keep saying to me 590 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: when I was Minister these to say, I've just been 591 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: to Hong Kong and seen this fabulous underground rail network, 592 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: and I'd say, look, we can fix this easily. You 593 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: give me seven million people between Parnell and Ponsonby and 594 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: I'll give you a brilliant underground rail network, but we've 595 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: only got one and a half million in our entire 596 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 4: biggest city in China that's a village. So that's one 597 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 4: of our biggest problems. But I think also setting our 598 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: priorities in the right direction, I have to congratulate Simming 599 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 4: and Brown in terms of changing all of the ludicrous 600 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: blanket spleed reductions and the blankets sort of hot big 601 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: speed bumps that have been put on streets which were 602 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: not needed. No, and he not needed for anything. 603 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 3: He you are joined this morning and congratulating him by 604 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: the CEOs of New Zealand who, in the mood of 605 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: the boardroom have given him almost a standing ovation. Maris, 606 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: thank you very much for being on the show. Morris Williamson, 607 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: who is the former National Party Transport Minister also Auckland 608 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: Counselor it is eight to six newstor very quickly, Luke says, 609 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: is it me? Or would New Zealand struggle to formulate 610 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: relations in a brothel? 611 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition 612 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. 613 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: News talk zibby. 614 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: Five away from six year on news talk ZIBB. Thank 615 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: you for all of your tech some really interesting ones 616 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: on in New Zealand which I have read, but I 617 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: don't have time to read out to you. Heather is 618 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: in the city Studia. 619 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 13: You want to in New Zealand. 620 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: So Ryan, my son's at Canterbury. It costs me more 621 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: to get him down there from Auckland than flying to Sydney. 622 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: That's our busiest domestic flight leg. How does a New 623 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: Zealand justify this? It's business? 624 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 13: Do you want to hear my story about any news either? 625 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 13: So I haven't told somebody yet, so I hope they're 626 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 13: not listening right now. But they have a wedding this 627 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 13: weekend and I can't go, and it's in Palmester, North. 628 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 13: I really hope they're not listening. And I had booked 629 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 13: flights for the husband and I to go down. We're 630 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 13: going to leave the sun behind and stuff like that. 631 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 13: But now we have to take them down for whatever 632 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 13: it is and it's turned into the biggest cluster. But 633 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 13: because of that, I can't get my money back. And 634 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 13: it was an absolute arm and a leg. Now that's 635 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 13: my fault for not booking a refundable ticket. But whoever 636 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 13: books a refundable ticket? 637 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: So you are going to the wedding, but you're not 638 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: going to the who We're not going to go? I 639 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: can't go? Well, why can't you go? Well, it's a long. 640 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 13: Story, but who wants to go to a wedding when 641 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 13: you've got a todd leg You've got to go home 642 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 13: at five o'clock to feed the toddler and a motel 643 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 13: room because Ryan, there are no hotels. 644 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: You know, I don't have a lot of sympathy for 645 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: you because if you didn't want that problem, don't have children. 646 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 13: And also don't be pregnant at the wedding. You can't 647 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 13: even drink what I really would love to go and 648 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 13: watch absolutely everybody get. 649 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: Completely wasted, and they will be in the north, you know. 650 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 13: You know classy joint. 651 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: Hey, how's what's happening on the show today? 652 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 13: Okay, listen, we're gonna I am so excited about talking 653 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 13: to the PPTA because they've done a complete reversal on 654 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 13: charter schools. They hate them, they hate them, but now 655 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 13: they're going to support the teachers working there. 656 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: They want the subs, the fees from all the teachers. 657 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, because the teachers were like do I belong to 658 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 13: the union or do I get better money at the 659 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 13: charter school. So they were with us after seven and 660 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 13: John too good if she had after eight. 661 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: Brilliant. Heather's with the next. I'll see tomorrow Friday, have 662 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: a great one. 663 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: You alone. 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