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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duplic Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else. News Talks Heavy Afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show coming up today. Andrew Costa's quit

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Speaker 2: and he has cost us one hundred and twenty four

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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars to make him go away. We'll speak

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Speaker 2: to the Public Public Service Commissioner Brian roach Alf the

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Speaker 2: five Leo malloy on why the Veterinary Council has fined

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Speaker 2: him twenty three thousand dollars four years after he breached

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Speaker 2: suppression orders. And we have spent the first of the

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Speaker 2: government money on bringing a concert here and it's Lincoln

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Speaker 2: Parks of the Tourism Minister after.

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Speaker 3: Six on that ever, duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I wanted to be able to start the show

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Speaker 2: today telling you categorically who was right and who was

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Speaker 2: telling lies the school principal or David Seymour and his officials.

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Speaker 2: And this is obviously over the moldy food saga. But

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Speaker 2: I cannot tell you I have tried. I have spent

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Speaker 2: a couple of hours this afternoon trying to get to

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Speaker 2: the bottom of this and the conclusion I've come to

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Speaker 2: actually is that both sides playing silly buggers here with

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Speaker 2: you and trying to mislead you. To her credit, the

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Speaker 2: principle of the school, Peggy Burrows, has at least coughed

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Speaker 2: up her evidence. So I asked her for the video

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Speaker 2: or photographic proof that eight boxes of food were delivered

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Speaker 2: on Thursday like she says, and that eight boxes were

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Speaker 2: taken away on Thursday like she says, and she coughed up.

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Speaker 2: She gave me a time and date stamp photo of

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Speaker 2: the delivery man arriving at nine oh seven in the

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Speaker 2: morning with eight boxes, and she gave me a time

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Speaker 2: and date stamped photograph of the delivery man leaving at

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Speaker 2: two twenty six that afternoon with weirdly nine boxes because

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Speaker 2: one was left over from the day before before. But

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Speaker 2: she is correct in what she is claiming, which means

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Speaker 2: David Seymour's people and officials cannot be correct in what

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Speaker 2: they are claiming when they say that nine were delivered

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Speaker 2: and eight were taken away. So I asked them for

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Speaker 2: the evidence of that. Because the delivery man is signing

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Speaker 2: a document when he's leaving, right, they will have signed

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Speaker 2: and sign out papers on that I've been asking them

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Speaker 2: for hours for the proof of this not forthcoming, and

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Speaker 2: we were told, oh, you know, we'll get you the information.

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Speaker 2: I'll call this guy on this number year and you'll

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Speaker 2: be able to have Yet nothing, that guy on that

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Speaker 2: number never even answered the phone, So that calls that

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Speaker 2: into question. I mean, you have to question how truthful

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Speaker 2: the government's claim is on this one. And I would

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Speaker 2: say it's not looking very good for them. But then

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, so at this stage, it's one

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Speaker 2: up for Peggy, zero for David Seymour. But then on

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Speaker 2: the other hand, Peggy can't be trusted either because she

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Speaker 2: keeps saying she couldn't possibly have served those meals from

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Speaker 2: four days before because they were cold, and they don't

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Speaker 2: have reheating facilities at the school. Actually do a Google search.

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Speaker 2: High Out Community Campus has a full commercial kitchen in cafeteria,

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Speaker 2: which means they make food, so they can definitely be

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Speaker 2: reheating food. So I'm almost tempted to take the one

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Speaker 2: away from Peggy again called it zero for both of them.

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Speaker 2: I call it even not because both of them are

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Speaker 2: winners in this argument, but because both have been tricky here.

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Speaker 2: Peggy is playing politics because she wants to discredit the

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Speaker 2: supplied food so that her school can get the food

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Speaker 2: contract herself. That's what she wants. David's playing politics because

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Speaker 2: he wants to defend his food in Schools program, which

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Speaker 2: has been subject to a couple of years now of attacks.

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Speaker 2: Neither side is clean here. You can pick who you

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Speaker 2: want to back on this because are as good or

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Speaker 2: as bad as each other.

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Speaker 3: Ether do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Two nights is the text number. Standard text fees apply

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Speaker 2: on that one. Now here's a question for you. Do

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Speaker 2: you know if your car regio or WAFT is up

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Speaker 2: to date? Chances are the answer is no, you haven't gotten.

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Speaker 2: You've got no idea because according to vehicle admin company Bonnet,

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Speaker 2: nearly half the cars on Kiwi roads are not registered

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Speaker 2: and don't have a valid WAFT, and one in five

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Speaker 2: are also behind on paying for their rucks. The CEO

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Speaker 2: of Bonnet, Steve Kennard, is with us now or Steph

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Speaker 2: rather Kennard is with us as Steph hio.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having.

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Speaker 2: Mery about miss gender right front. Get off on a

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Speaker 2: good start there now. Listen, this is an estimate for

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Speaker 2: from you guys. How have you figured this out?

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Speaker 5: So we've basically taken our active users and we've seen

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Speaker 5: how how many basically don't get the WAFT and the

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Speaker 5: ridge are done on time, and how many are currently

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Speaker 5: overdue on their road you's a charge. So I mean

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Speaker 5: it's pretty scary considering considering that Bonnet is the utility

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Speaker 5: kind of missing that threshold of getting the warrant in

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Speaker 2: We missing that? By you know, I mean is it

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Speaker 2: like years or is a couple of weeks or what.

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Speaker 5: A couple of weeks? I actually was trying to dig

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Speaker 5: up that data just before the call, but I didn't

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Speaker 5: get there done on time, but about four or so weeks,

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Speaker 5: I would say, So it's it's missing the threshold. People

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Speaker 5: just aren't remembering and then when they're looking at it,

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Speaker 5: they're like, oh damn, and then kind of getting it done.

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Speaker 2: Why do we do that? People are just either.

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Speaker 5: Not thinking about it. I mean, there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: things that people are thinking about at the moment with

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Speaker 5: the cost of living crisis, but also when you do remember,

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Speaker 5: you get what you need a warrant a fitness It's

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Speaker 5: not just you know, the sixty five dollars, it's like

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Speaker 5: the treat on the tires enough, you know what else

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Speaker 5: are they going to cost me? So it's a bit scary.

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Speaker 5: And the road user charges themselves. It's it can aid

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Speaker 5: up quite fast for people. So yeah, it's not surprising merely,

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Speaker 5: but it is a bit scary considering the whole of

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Speaker 5: New Zealand is about to have to pay road user charges.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is the same, right, but the road

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Speaker 2: user changes are going to be electronic, aren't they, So

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Speaker 2: that'll be much easier to keep on top of wanted.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, the government's got to rfy out

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Speaker 5: at the moment to figure out, you know, who's going

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Speaker 5: to come to the party and provide a sudden forget service,

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Speaker 5: which is what you've bonoced actually launching shortly. But at

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, there isn't kind of a

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Speaker 5: You'll still have to manually put in what youre adometer

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Speaker 5: reading is, and the whole thing is quite fragmented, like

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Speaker 5: as of today, it's just it is just remember what

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Speaker 5: your license is, Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now you guys are tendering for this RUXS thing,

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Speaker 5: it's basically a race for finished in the next thirteen

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Speaker 5: sudden forget people's choice in terms of privacy friendly. You know,

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Speaker 5: there's going to be three options for people to kind

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Speaker 5: of choose. It's going to be manually putting in your

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Speaker 5: A dometer into an appli like Bonnet, or it's going

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Speaker 5: to be using a device, and that device is going

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Speaker 5: to be an interesting one in itself because you know,

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Speaker 5: to do it in a privacy free, privacy first way

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Speaker 5: of not recording GPS in my opinion, because no one

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Speaker 5: going old school and going on to the NCTA website

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Speaker 2: Remembering yes, so do you think like it so it

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Speaker 2: might actually record where you've been in the past.

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Speaker 5: No, so well, for example, the device that we've been

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Speaker 5: be doing, like doing a device that doesn't record GPS.

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Speaker 5: So like the easiest way, you know fleets at the

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Speaker 5: moment are using distance recorders, basically using the GPS, said

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Speaker 5: like to navigate where.

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Speaker 2: That vehicle is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but a device that is privacy first for consumers

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Speaker 5: should record the distance on the device and then only

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Speaker 5: ping the answer, so like they're a domoterating So it's

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Speaker 5: basically like you need to build that, but then you

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Speaker 5: also you need to prove to the public that that's

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Speaker 5: actually what you're doing. And also the data has got

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Speaker 5: data sovereignty because it's actually quite surprising. There are lots

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Speaker 5: of devices that you buy off you know Ali Barbara,

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Speaker 5: all the data goes back to China. So it's about

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Speaker 5: building the device that's probably affordable, you know underneath thirty

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Speaker 5: companies at the moment trying to figure out what is

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Speaker 5: you know, what's going to be the balance of like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I just don't want to deal it, you know, just

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Speaker 5: just put the device in or you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: Conspiracy theories will the conspiracy theorists will definitely come to

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Speaker 2: the party with that and not disappoint Thank you, Steph,

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Speaker 2: appreciate its Steph Kennard, chief executive officer at Bonnett Well

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Speaker 2: recording the GPS, I just thought of all you adulterers

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Speaker 2: off having that affair, and then China's recording what you

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Speaker 2: just a little whip past the old mistress's house, and

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Speaker 2: then you think it's safe with China. But then Nick Minner,

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Speaker 2: they start your high profile and then you know, Jijingking's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: look there we go. They had Look they're having any

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Speaker 2: should we bribe them? Should we use it as leverage?

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Speaker 2: And then you know, so Yeah, I'm on your side.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry. We'll make sure we don't get the GPS

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Speaker 2: so you can keep having that sweet little affair that

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Speaker 2: you're having. Hither do you know if Andrew Costa received

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Speaker 2: any kind of payout or other sweetness in exchange for

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Speaker 2: his resignation? Ben good question. What we're told publicly is

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Speaker 2: he's been paid out one hundred and twenty four thousand dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: that would equate to about three months of pay for him,

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Speaker 2: which would presumably be his what has noticed period? Right,

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Speaker 2: So if he's resigned, So if you resign, you've got

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Speaker 2: to give notice. If you have to give three months notice,

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Speaker 2: then they're going to pay you for three months. But

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Speaker 2: they're also like, Andrew, don't come back to the office,

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Speaker 2: So here's you three months. Bugger off. That's pretty much

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Speaker 2: what's happened anyway, Brian. If there are any other payments,

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Speaker 2: we'll ask Brian Roach Public Service Commissioner when he's with us.

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Speaker 2: Hither, I think the principle is more fishy in this

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Speaker 2: current situation. As well as much of the media for

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Speaker 2: jumping on the school lunch bashing bandwagon. Well let's see, actually,

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Speaker 2: do you know what, We've just had it confirmed that

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Speaker 2: David Cimol is going to be on the show after

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Speaker 2: five o'clock. So stand by and we'll see what maybe

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Speaker 2: because look, maybe what's going on is that the officials

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Speaker 2: just don't want to answer the phone, and the officials

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Speaker 2: The word and if you didn't like it at the start,

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Speaker 2: with the Venezuelan bozies and the pressure on the government?

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Speaker 9: Today it was his first opportunity in front of cameras

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Speaker 3: Fine with that.

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Speaker 16: Now there are questions as to whether this needs further

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Speaker 16: didn't see it. The Defense Secretary going as far today

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Speaker 16: as to say, you know that this is the fog

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Speaker 16: of war, and so I think you are likely to

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Speaker 16: see Democrats continue to ramp up the pressure on the

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Speaker 16: administration over this issue, and that's no surprise. But when

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Speaker 16: it comes to Venezuela, well, the President has been trying

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Speaker 16: to push this line.

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Speaker 9: He's trying to stop drug trafficking. He's promised said that

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Speaker 9: there would.

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Speaker 16: Be a ground invasion, a ground strike coming very soon.

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Speaker 16: Whether or not that actually happens remains to be seen.

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Speaker 16: Whether this is actually just a ploy by him to

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Speaker 16: ramp up diplomatic pressure on Nicholas Maduro, the socialist authoritarian

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Speaker 16: leader inside Venezuela, is probably more likely.

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Speaker 2: And listen, what are we hearing from the meeting with

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Speaker 2: whipkof and Peerson and Moscow.

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Speaker 16: Well, you touched on it briefly there and then that

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Speaker 16: is essentially there is no compromise.

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Speaker 9: There is no deal.

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Speaker 3: That is the.

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Speaker 9: Headline coming out of it.

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Speaker 16: Where we've seen these pictures of Steve Wikoff and Jared Kushner,

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Speaker 16: president Trump's son in law, paraded around Moscow essentially like

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Speaker 16: tourists off to a Michelin starred restaurant and various sites

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Speaker 16: around the Red Square in Moscow itself, and then they

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Speaker 16: would take an inside for the meeting that lasted round

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Speaker 16: about five or six hours, but nothing of significance came

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Speaker 16: of it. They don't appear to be any close. You

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Speaker 16: heard the fighting words from Vladimir Putin before the meeting

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Speaker 16: even started, that this is Europe's fault, that he is

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Speaker 16: ready to go to war. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 16: language he has used previously when he finds himself in

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Speaker 16: a tough position trying to negotiate with the United States.

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Speaker 16: But he's not moving, he's not budging his ground whatsoever.

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Speaker 16: And right now, if you were the US sitting looking

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Speaker 16: at these negotiations, thinking you've spent months and months of these,

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Speaker 16: you'd have to start wondering what is it that Vladimir

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Speaker 16: Putin is actually going to compromise on, if anything, And

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Speaker 16: if he's not going to compromise, what's the next step?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, fair point, fair question there. What's Sabrina Carpenter

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Speaker 2: not happy about? Mane?

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Speaker 16: Well, she's not happy about the president. This is yet

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Speaker 16: another figure from the world of entertainment. Of course, many

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Speaker 16: of the swifties across the network would know that Sabrina

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Speaker 16: was accompanying her and her on a recent eras tour. Now,

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Speaker 16: Sabrina is not happy about the Trump administration using one

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Speaker 16: of her songs in a video that was about ice

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Speaker 16: raids and deporting people. She essentially took to social media

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Speaker 16: to say, you know that, to stop this. She doesn't

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Speaker 16: stand by it. She wants them to remove her music

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Speaker 16: from this. We've seen artists say this to the administration before,

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Speaker 16: and I think the administration posts these videos with music

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Speaker 16: from vocal critics of their own campaign and administration, knowing

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Speaker 16: full well the response they're going to get. And they

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Speaker 16: certainly got a rise out of Sabrina Carpital.

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Speaker 2: Didn't They Just Hey, Jonathan, thank you so much. Really

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Speaker 2: enjoy joy talking to you and enjoy your Turkey sand

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Speaker 2: which is Jonathan Kursley, US correspondent, eighteen away from five together,

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Speaker 2: do for see Ellen whether you do know that Jesus

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Speaker 2: was not born in December but was actually born in September.

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Speaker 2: That a fact, I'll tell you. Well, I'm not too

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Speaker 2: stressed out about that because I mean they got the

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Speaker 2: year wrong as well, didn't they. It's like six pc

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Speaker 2: like Jesus is born six years before Jesus is born

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Speaker 2: six years BC.

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Speaker 9: Is that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're out that much by the years,

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Speaker 2: what's three months now? Ree Andrew's resignation. I think probably

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Speaker 2: the most interesting thing of this is the fact that

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Speaker 2: the government has now admitted that there was no cover up.

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Speaker 2: So Brian Roach, the Public Service Commissioner, has put out

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Speaker 2: a statement saying the IPCA found no evidence of corruption

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Speaker 2: or cover up. Now that is quite an admission given

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Speaker 2: how many times ministers and the new Police Commissioner, Richard

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Speaker 2: Chambers have called this, at the low end a cover

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Speaker 2: up and at the high end corruption Like Judith Collins

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Speaker 2: on the day, well, I think if it walks like.

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Speaker 17: A duck and the quacks like a duck, it's not looking.

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Speaker 3: Good, is it.

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Speaker 2: Police Minister Mark Mitchell in the Q and a interview.

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Speaker 3: We had a corrupt police executive.

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Speaker 2: Police Minister Mark Mitchell in the Q and a interview.

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Speaker 6: We're coming up against a corrupt police executive.

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Speaker 2: Richard Chambers on Radio New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Was there a cover up?

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Speaker 10: Oh look, I think absolutely it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, turns out they're all wrong and they've had to

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Speaker 2: eat their words. Anyway, Brian Roach is going to be

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Speaker 2: with us, as I say, after five o'clock seventeen away.

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Speaker 1: From five Politics with Centrics where to check your customers

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Speaker 1: and get payment?

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Speaker 2: Certainty, very so, senior political correspondence with us. Hello Berry,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, Heather Cattle's coster. What did I tell you yesterday? No,

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Speaker 2: what did I tell you? What did I tell you?

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Speaker 7: I said he wouldn't be sacked and he wasn't sacked.

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Speaker 7: He resigned, Barry, No, he resigned, and no doubt, my

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Speaker 7: mate Brian Roach will tell you exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 7: But look, I must say I do feel sorry for

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Speaker 7: Consta because you know, he obviously took the word of

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Speaker 7: Javon mxcimming from the beginning and never obviously followed up.

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Speaker 7: He took the word of a senior officer over what

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Speaker 7: was going on in the background. And I guess you

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Speaker 7: could say, and I'm not really justifying what happened, but

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Speaker 7: you could say, as a commissioner of police, you can't

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Speaker 7: be across every.

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Speaker 2: Why are you smirking the whole time when you're saying

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Speaker 2: not serious? I don't know whether to take you seriously

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Speaker 2: or not. Are you really feeling sorry for Costa or not?

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to show you my new gentleman.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what is going on with you today, honestly, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we will deal with you know what park the subject

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Speaker 2: because you clearly cannot deal with this seriously on talk

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Speaker 2: to Brian Roache about it in a few minutes. No,

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Speaker 2: don't care, all right. How's it going with scrutiny week?

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Speaker 7: Well, in the hot seat today was Treasury and interestingly

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Speaker 7: they told the MPs that they're a little over halfway

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Speaker 7: through reviewing the state asset ownership, but they insist that

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Speaker 7: it's not driven by a desire to sell the assets,

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Speaker 7: although they went on to say that you know they

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Speaker 7: will if the ministers require it, say what value it

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Speaker 7: is of holding onto these assets? So I think reading

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Speaker 7: between fairly simple lines you know, this has been asked for,

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Speaker 7: I assume by the government, and they will be seeking

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Speaker 7: advice like on New Zealand post example, They'll be looking

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Speaker 7: for advice on whether these assets should be retained. And

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Speaker 7: there's an argument I guess you can. It cuts both ways,

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Speaker 7: but it's one that will go on and it'll be

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Speaker 7: I think an election issue that's coming.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean Nationals made it pretty clearly, they got

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Speaker 2: a campaign on it.

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Speaker 7: They want Yes, they want to, but then should the

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Speaker 7: questions should they be using treasury to arm them going

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Speaker 7: into an election? You know, I mean they are advisors,

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Speaker 7: but when it comes to policy, they've got to be

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Speaker 7: able to make it without using treasury.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe so, but I mean they could, but how

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Speaker 2: do you I mean, it's a legit question that they can. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out a way to phrase

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Speaker 2: this correctly. I mean they're the government, as the government,

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Speaker 2: they are considering selling the asset as ministers of the Crown.

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Speaker 2: So the difference between the government doing it versus the

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Speaker 2: governing party then using that information to campaign, I just

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Speaker 2: don't know that you can draw a distinction. Well, I

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Speaker 2: don't know that you can.

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Speaker 7: Well, you've got one part, you're totally opposed to set sales. Well,

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Speaker 7: New Zealand first indeed has opposed, and then you've got

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Speaker 7: more common.

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Speaker 2: Ground between labor and New Zealand. Worm just saying.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I would say you're barking up the wrong

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Speaker 7: tree there.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So I know that you were watching Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: videos today in the office.

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Speaker 7: I just enjoy them because there wasn't much news going

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Speaker 7: on around the place today. So I thought, look, my

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Speaker 7: old mate, the man that I revere in the presidency

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Speaker 7: of the United States. I'll ever look what he's saying. Well,

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Speaker 7: he believes that federal income texts could soon be abolished

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Speaker 7: because of the wonderful tariff money that's being brought in

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Speaker 7: to the United States. He's serious. I've found it rather extraordinary.

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Speaker 7: He basically struggled to stay awake during the cabinet meeting

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Speaker 7: that he was holding, but when he did have his say,

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Speaker 7: he said the United States citizens could soon see themselves

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Speaker 7: not to pay any income text because of the tariff.

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Speaker 15: Gray, There's never been anything quite like it. It's been amazing.

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Speaker 15: So we're taking in think of it, hundreds of billions.

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Speaker 15: Next year, it'll be a trillion dollars or more. But

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Speaker 15: we're taking in all this money at the same time

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Speaker 15: protecting our country and we're respected again.

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Speaker 7: They actually respect us.

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Speaker 15: But we'll be cutting income tax, could be almost completely

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Speaker 15: cutting it because the money we're taken and is going

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Speaker 15: to be so large.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And he also had to say about the wonderful strike

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Speaker 7: on Iran taking out some nuclear plants back there in June,

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Speaker 7: and he was very impressed with the stealth bomber pilots.

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Speaker 7: Listen to him, we.

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Speaker 15: Have a country that's so respected again. But when the

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Speaker 15: pilots came to see me and I gave him a medal,

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Speaker 15: all of them. There were a lot of handsome people.

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Speaker 15: It looked like Tom Cruise. Actually it was very good casting.

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Speaker 15: But I like Tom Cruise, the last of our movie stars. Probably.

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Speaker 15: He said, did you really enjoy it? They said, Sarah,

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Speaker 15: we loved it.

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Speaker 3: We loved it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so we've got nothing to worry about it.

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Speaker 2: What's your point, Barry Nothing.

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Speaker 7: I was just fascinated.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just wondering why you why, what your

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Speaker 2: point is of this, this particular segment about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: I was thinking of your listeners and how they would

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Speaker 7: like to hear.

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Speaker 18: From Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you, Barry, appreciate its nine away

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Speaker 2: from five very sober, well, Barry. He's got TDS bad,

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Speaker 2: hasn't he? Heather so has Hosking. It's hilarious of Trump,

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Speaker 2: ad Myrie or Trush. I don't I can't speak for Hosking.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Hosking. Team's fair and him on Donald Trump. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Barry though, it's just wild, isn't it. Listen, We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk to Brian Roach in a minute about the

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Speaker 2: resignation today of Andrew Costa. And when I use the

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Speaker 2: word resignation I feel like I'm using that quite loosely,

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Speaker 2: because it feels like the government is using that quite

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Speaker 2: loosely lately. Because can I just run you through the

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Speaker 2: number of people that we have on record recently as

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Speaker 2: having resigned and then getting a whopping great payout to leave.

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Speaker 2: It's been revealed today Diana Safarti, who was the former

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Speaker 2: Health Director General, she quit, Remember she resigned, She was

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Speaker 2: like BOBBYE, I've got to go, and then somehow we

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Speaker 2: paid her three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to leave.

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Speaker 2: Now they're saying that that apparently was a notice period

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Speaker 2: that she had to work out based on her salary

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Speaker 2: the previous year. That was a seven month notice period.

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Speaker 2: That's one hell of a long notice period. Then you

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Speaker 2: had far Mack's former chief executive, Sarah fit we found

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Speaker 2: out yesterday got paid basically three hundred and sixty thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars to leave. So let's add those two together. What's

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Speaker 2: that seven hundred and ten thousand dollars? She also resigned

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Speaker 2: and got a big payout. Then Adrian All former Reserve

656
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Speaker 2: Bank governor, who resigned because if he didn't resign he

657
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Speaker 2: was due to be fired. Basically, he got four hundred

658
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Speaker 2: and sixteen thousand dollars in a restraint of trade, which

659
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Speaker 2: is a joke because what's the competition to the Reserve

660
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Speaker 2: Bank in New Zealand. There is none, so you don't

661
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Speaker 2: need a restraint of trains. It's a fancy way of

662
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Speaker 2: paying him out. Again, so let's add that to that.

663
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Speaker 2: So now was seven hundred one point one million or

664
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Speaker 2: thereabouts for those three. Then you had Andrew Mackenzie, who

665
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Speaker 2: actually former boss of kying of order. Actually he blew

666
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Speaker 2: the other ones out of the water. He got a

667
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Speaker 2: million dollars for leaving, so that's two point one million

668
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Speaker 2: dollars and now you can add one hundred and twenty

669
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Speaker 2: four thousand dollars the Andrew Costa gone and there we've

670
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: ended up paying quite a lot of money to people

671
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Speaker 2: who have resigned from their jobs. And what feels like

672
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Speaker 2: what I'm starting to get the sense that it's one

673
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: of those ones where you sit down and go, Okay,

674
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: here's your chance to leave. We're gonna fire you, but

675
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: you can resign if you want to, and we'll give

676
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Speaker 2: you some money and then we'll make the whole thing

677
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Speaker 2: go away. So just a little stitch up there, which

678
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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of anyway. Brian wrote shortly on that.

679
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: Then David Seymour, there is a weird thing that's going

680
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: on with Leo Maloy. Now you'll know Leo mLOY, you know,

681
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: you know, loudmouth, short guy, jockey owns former jockey owns

682
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: the headquarters Bard a bit of fun, bit of fun

683
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Speaker 2: to have around. Famously breached the name suppression in the

684
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Speaker 2: Grace Malaye case. And at the time that he did that,

685
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Speaker 2: and that was four years ago, he was fined fifteen

686
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars by you know, the New Zealand Judicial system

687
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Speaker 2: who were like, that's you broke the law. Here you go,

688
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: here's your fine, and he presumably paid it. The Veterinary

689
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Speaker 2: Council has also, it's just emerged today find him another

690
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Speaker 2: twenty three thousand dollars. What's weird about that is that

691
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Speaker 2: it's the Veterinary Council finding him more than the whole

692
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Speaker 2: country of New Zealand and he hasn't even been a

693
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Speaker 2: practicing vet for a decade. So how do we explain

694
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Speaker 2: this thing? Well, fortunately, Leo is going to be with

695
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Speaker 2: us after half past five and we can ask him

696
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Speaker 2: about that, So stand by. Lots to get through in

697
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Speaker 2: the next half hour. Listening to news talks 'b first

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Speaker 2: Forever Christmas Never.

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Speaker 1: Drive show you can trust trust to ask the question,

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Speaker 1: you get the answers, find a fag sack and give

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Speaker 1: the analysis.

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Speaker 3: Here the duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

704
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Speaker 1: mobile news dogs, there'd be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Former Police Commissioner Andrew Costa has quit his role

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Speaker 2: as the boss of the Social Investment Agency. It follows

707
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Speaker 2: that damning IPCA report about how top police handled the

708
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Speaker 2: Gevin mcskimming allegations. In a statement, Andrew Costa says he's

709
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Speaker 2: prepared to take responsibility and that he got this wrong.

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Speaker 2: Sir Brian Roaches the Public Service Commissioner and with us,

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Speaker 2: Hi Brian, good evening. So he's been paid one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty four thousand dollars. That's three months notice, nothing else.

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Speaker 18: Nothing else. He's been paid as contract for entitlements three

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Speaker 18: months in love of notice he left today.

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Speaker 2: Has the government had to pay any money to him

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Speaker 2: at all? For ministers accusing him of corruption and a

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Speaker 2: cover up?

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Speaker 18: No, this is a very clean process. It's taken along

719
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Speaker 18: of than some of is foot of luck. But that

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Speaker 18: has the outcome which I believe appropriate. He has taken accountability,

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Speaker 18: he's apologize the express regret he's lost his job. I'm

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Speaker 18: not sure what more we can expect.

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Speaker 2: Did he ask you to admit in a statement that

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Speaker 2: there was no corruptional cover up?

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Speaker 18: Those were words that actually came from the IPCA, though,

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Speaker 18: are words important to him, And that's actually correct, and

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Speaker 18: so I had no discomfort actually restaking them for completeness

728
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Speaker 18: because those things have mattered to him and I was

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Speaker 18: happy with that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So in that case, were the ministers wrong accusing

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Speaker 2: him of a cover up and corruption.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think ministers are best able to explain that.

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Speaker 18: In my context, I wasn't looking at him. He was

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Speaker 18: an employee of me, of mine, I had worked with him.

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Speaker 18: I have found him to be very honest, very straightforward,

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Speaker 18: So I've had none of those experiences of him. I

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Speaker 18: believe him to be person of integrity and very values driven.

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Speaker 2: Why did it take so long to get rid of him?

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Speaker 18: Three weeks is not a long time in the scheme

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Speaker 18: of things. It was important that we did the process properly,

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Speaker 18: that we didn't give rise to undue legal risk. I'm

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Speaker 18: very comfortable with it. It's a very important process. It's

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Speaker 18: impactful on his life and his career. I'm respectful of

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Speaker 18: the time required to get him to the position we

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Speaker 18: got him to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you found him honest, Brian, why do you

747
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Speaker 2: have to.

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Speaker 18: Go Because I don't believe he's able to conduct his

749
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Speaker 18: job and meet the demands of the chief executive of

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Speaker 18: the Social Investment Agency. Because there is fairly or unfairly,

751
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Speaker 18: there is doubt in people's minds as to his ability

752
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Speaker 18: to do their job. Eves of the view that actually

753
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Speaker 18: it would be impossible for him to do it. In

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Speaker 18: the short term. So in discussions he agreed it was

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Speaker 18: the best thing for him and the best thing for

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Speaker 18: the agency, and he believes very strongly in that agency

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Speaker 18: and his purpose and he did not want to put

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Speaker 18: that at risk.

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Speaker 2: All right, Brian, thank you as always for your time that,

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Speaker 2: Sir Brian wrote Public Service.

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Speaker 3: Commissioner Duplicy Allen.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, the controversy over the moldy food at the

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Speaker 2: school in christ Church, it seems the principle of the

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Speaker 2: school is correct that she was not left with a

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Speaker 2: box of food on Thursday last week, which then went

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Speaker 2: moldy over the weekend and was served to kids on Monday.

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Speaker 2: She's provided us with CCTV photos proving eight boxes came

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Speaker 2: in on Thursday morning and weirdly nine left on Thursday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: which means officials have been proven wrong, or at least

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Speaker 2: the people at the school lunch collective have been proven wrong.

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Speaker 2: David Seymore was the Associate Education Minister in charge of

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Speaker 2: this and with us. Hello David, Hey, Heather, Okay, so

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Speaker 2: what's the story now, Well.

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Speaker 19: The story is evolving and I'm sure you can assemble it.

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Speaker 19: You've got a principal who has made a set of claims.

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Speaker 19: You've got a Compass provider which has made a set

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Speaker 19: of claims, and you've got and government's investigator which has

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Speaker 19: gone and issued what they believe has occurred, which is

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Speaker 19: that some meals were left over the weekend, not refrigerated,

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Speaker 19: accidentally reissued to children and that is the cause of

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Speaker 19: the problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can we get the records. We've been asking your

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Speaker 2: office all afternoon for the records to prove that, as

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Speaker 2: we were told, nine boxes went in on Thursday and

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Speaker 2: night came out.

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Speaker 19: Well, again, we've never made that claim. Compass made that claim.

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Speaker 19: What we have done is shown people what's in the

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Speaker 19: public domain, both from the principal and from the government department,

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Speaker 19: and we've said, look, on the basis of what everybody

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Speaker 19: can see, it appears that the source of the problem

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Speaker 19: originated at the school and the Food Safety New Zealand

792
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Speaker 19: Agency have issued a new statement reaffirming their story and

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Speaker 19: their findings, which is bolstered by the fact that regardless

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Speaker 19: of how many boxes came and went in, that entire controversy,

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Speaker 19: actually you know that it seems there's a common practice

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Speaker 19: that some boxes and some meals were always kept back

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Speaker 19: at the school and Food Safety in New Zealand have

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Speaker 19: offered their services to help the school improve the process.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the problem is. Look, I know,

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Speaker 2: I would like to believe that the version that you

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Speaker 2: are telling us, and that the school lunch collective is

802
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: telling us, and that the officials are telling us is correct,

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00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: except when the officials are pressed to actually provide the

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Speaker 2: evidence to support their claims, they don't even want to

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Speaker 2: pack up the phone. Which and yet Peggy, the Peggy

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Speaker 2: Burrows the principle here, has been able to back up

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Speaker 2: her claims, which means at this point she looks more credible,

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Speaker 2: doesn't she.

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Speaker 19: Well, you could take that view, but I think that

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Speaker 19: the evidence that the people at Food Safety in New

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Speaker 19: Zealand have provided is based on discussions with teachers at

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Speaker 19: the school.

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Speaker 2: But they've provided no evidence. That's the problem, David. They

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Speaker 2: are just expecting us to take them at their word.

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Speaker 2: And if there's one thing we learned from COVID is

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Speaker 2: you do not take officials at their word.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I can appreciate that. Nonetheless, there's a common practice

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Speaker 19: of leaving meals at the school and leaving boxes at

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Speaker 19: the school.

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Speaker 3: You've had a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of the evidence, give us the evidence of that.

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Speaker 19: Well, again, you know, you can go and say that

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Speaker 19: everybody's lying, or you can listen to what they're telling.

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Speaker 2: There is no But here's the thing, you guys are

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Speaker 2: telling conflicting stories. She's been able to provide the evidence.

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Speaker 2: Can your side provide any evidence of what you're saying?

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Speaker 19: No, what I'm saying is that they have gone to

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Speaker 19: the school. I've interviewed people and they have said that,

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Speaker 19: according to reports from teachers, there is a widespread practice

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Speaker 19: of keeping some boxes and some meals. That appears to

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Speaker 19: have happened. And if you doubt that that's happened, then

832
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Speaker 19: you'd have to ask yourself how it's possible that fifteen

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Speaker 19: other schools that got exactly the same meals from exactly

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Speaker 19: the same place on exactly the same day didn't actually

835
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Speaker 19: have a problem. Now, what's interesting about what you've just said,

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Speaker 19: heither is you seem to be putting more store and

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Speaker 19: how much effort goes into communicating with the media.

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Speaker 2: Right, no, no, no, no, no no no. You would come on,

839
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Speaker 2: come on, David, don't be a dick. I would don't

840
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Speaker 2: be a dick. You'll bang a dick because what you're

841
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: doing is you're making this a story about No, come on, man,

842
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Speaker 2: you are making this a story about how about mego

843
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: about media ego? It is not about media ego. It

844
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: is about the fact that you guys a he said,

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Speaker 2: she said. And at the end, the only way that

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Speaker 2: you can listen hear me out, the only way that

847
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: you can determine what is true is if the people

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Speaker 2: cough up the primary evidence she has You haven't. I

849
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Speaker 2: would like to believe your story because I can see

850
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Speaker 2: the inconsistencies and I can see the possibilities that this

851
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: is a problem. Can you answer me one question about

852
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Speaker 2: the food? Right, is the same food served on Thursday

853
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Speaker 2: that is served on Monday?

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Speaker 19: Well as I understand it. Yes, Next point, Heather, just

855
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Speaker 19: if you really come back, come back from come back

856
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Speaker 19: from calling me names, just for a second, and I

857
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Speaker 19: just make the point I make is that the proper

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Speaker 19: way to address this would have actually been not for

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Speaker 19: the principle to have gone off and talked to a

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Speaker 19: whole lot of media. I mean, she's done so many

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Speaker 19: and she was doing one this morning chat to cut

862
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 19: short so she could go and do another media interview.

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Speaker 19: It would have been to say child safety is number

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Speaker 19: one child education as number two.

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Speaker 4: David.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with you,

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Speaker 2: but it's quite clear she's playing politics and so are you.

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Speaker 2: And David, listen for the future. If you're going to

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Speaker 2: come on here and you do this every single time,

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Speaker 2: if you're going to come on here and need me

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Speaker 2: like you do and you and you look with your

872
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: little snarky comments, you can expect to be called to

873
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: dick and be called out for it. Okay, off we go,

874
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister. Lord,

875
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: I just called the Deputy Prime Minister a dick and

876
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: Associate Education Minister quarter past. Okay. Now, if you love

877
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: Rose and you love yourself a bargain, then get yourself

878
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: in front of a computer or a phone right now

879
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: because you are not going to want to miss out

880
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: on this incredibly, utterly incredible eleven ninety nine mystery Rose deal.

881
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: This is exclusively available at the Good Wine Co. That

882
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: is the Goodwine Dot Co dot m Z. And this

883
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: deal is already going berserk. And here's why. This is

884
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: a double gold medal winning molbreppino Rose up for grabs

885
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: at a ninety nine Yes eleven ninety nine a bottle,

886
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: and because the deal is so sharp, we have to

887
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: keep the brand name a secret. On air tonight, the

888
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: true label is on the box and the bottle all

889
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: is revealed when it arrives on your doorstep. The wine

890
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 2: is being advertised as the Mystery Marlborough Rose twenty twenty four.

891
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: This is a double gold medal winner at the New

892
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: Zealand International Wine Show, and that means that every senior

893
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: judge scored it gold. It's a luscious rose with a

894
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: crisp off drive, finished class act for just eleven ninety

895
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: nine and if you order right now, you're gonna pay

896
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: just one dollar per case delivery to your door anywhere

897
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Conditions apply. Order online right now at

898
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: the Goodwine dot Co dot m Z or call oh

899
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 2: eight hundred double six two double.

900
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: Six two Heather duplusy Ellen.

901
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Heather David is a dick. Heather, you are the dick.

902
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna look to be fair. If the shoe

903
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: fits anyway, I'll come back to the text in a minute.

904
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: Nineteen past five now, three Ycuttle mayors have asked Fire

905
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: an emergency to lift this weird band that's been put

906
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: on local firefighters. The fire brigades in Kardawachi and Huntley

907
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: have watercraft that they use for rescues on the Wycuttle River,

908
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: but they've been banned by fans, not allowed to use

909
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: them because of compliance issues. The mayors of Hamilton, Wiper

910
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: and White Cuttle say that is not good enough. Whyecuttle

911
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Mare axel Beck joins us. Now high axel Hi, how

912
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: are you going? I'm very well, thank you. Do you

913
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: know why the firefighters are not allowed to use their

914
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: jet skis?

915
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 8: Well, we know why FENS say they are not allowed to,

916
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 8: and that is that FENS itself as an organization doesn't

917
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 8: feel like it has the capability to oversee it. So

918
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 8: that's head office, right, That's not the brigades themselves. They're fine.

919
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 8: They've got compliant maritime certified craft, a jet ski and

920
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 8: a boat, and they've done all the training. They've got

921
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 8: special gear there to affect swift water rescue. It's called

922
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 8: they've got skippers tickets for anyone who operates it. All

923
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 8: of that's in place. It's been in place since twenty ten,

924
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: sixty five rescues.

925
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: So what happens if somebody gets in trouble on the

926
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: Wyecuttle River.

927
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 8: I think they meant to us swim between the flags?

928
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 8: Is that what fire in the moot into your Yeah?

929
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: They're on their own out there, are they?

930
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 8: I look at you know, police obviously if getting a

931
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 8: report of someone in trouble, would of course prioritize that.

932
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 8: But they'd be standing on the banks watching people, you know,

933
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 8: float past. They don't have the capability. They rely on

934
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 8: the fire brigades to respond. It's a risk. We know that,

935
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 8: and the fire brigades have equipped themselves with community funded

936
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 8: equipment to be there to effect that risk.

937
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that the fire brigades will just ignore

938
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: this and do it anyway and go out and help people.

939
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 8: Well, if they do, they put their own license to

940
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 8: operate in jeopardy. I suppose. I mean, what what's friends

941
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 8: going to do? I guess potentially stand them down. They've

942
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 8: been ordered not to go, not to respond. But what

943
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 8: a terrible situation. Knowing that you've got the gear to

944
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 8: respond and no one else is would would would you?

945
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: What would you do?

946
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 8: I think they will respond?

947
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, suspect so, and just really quickly. This is health

948
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: and safety stuff, isn't it.

949
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 8: Well, it's friends saying that as the sort of overall

950
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 8: governing body, they themselves need to have processes in place,

951
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 8: and that's probably.

952
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: Wrong, right, But is it their health and safety compliance?

953
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, it's not the brigade. No express no concerns

954
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 8: about the brigades themselves. We pro to since twenty ten.

955
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: Thank you, Axel. Appreciated axelbeck Ycutt or Mayor. The old

956
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: health and safety strikes again five twenty two.

957
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

958
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand coverage like no one else

959
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: news talks.

960
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: They'd be five to twenty four. Listen, we're gonna go,

961
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the text, hang on a tech

962
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: and they're still coming in five to twenty four. Listen.

963
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: In the end, I think Andrew Costa had to go. Look,

964
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: you realize he's won a big victory today, don't you,

965
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: Because it's a big admission from the Public Service Commissioner

966
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: today that Andrew Costa didn't do anything wrong himself. He

967
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 2: hadn't committed any personal wrongdoing. And it's a big admission

968
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: also that there was no cover up. And the reason

969
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: that it's a big mission is because of the number

970
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: of times lots of ministers and also the new police

971
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: commissioner went out there in media and said cover up,

972
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: cover up, cover up, and then also in some cases

973
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: said corruption. Now, what I think this proves is exactly

974
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: what I had intimated a few weeks ago. Yes, this

975
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: was a scandal, but it was not the a plus

976
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: plus plus plus plus plus scandal that these guys were

977
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: kind of raking it up to be. That was politics.

978
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: They wanted to play the game of the bad guys

979
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: are out where the new guys. It's a new broom,

980
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I didn't rate Andrew Costa as

981
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: a police commissioner. I think he was rubbish at that job.

982
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: But I always thought that he would be good at

983
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: running the Social Investment Agency because he's the kind of

984
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: guy that likes the warm fuzzies and the early intervention,

985
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: which is what the Social Investment Agency. It was never

986
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: about hard policing. He was about warm fuzzies. The Social

987
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: Investment Agency is about warm fuzzies. So it is in

988
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: a way a pity that the warm fuzzies guy cannot

989
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: lead the warm fuzzies agency anymore. But ultimately, like Brian

990
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: Roach said he had to go because even though he

991
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: did nothing wrong, the buck stopped with him at the

992
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: police and he made a series of bad calls that

993
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: meant none of us could ever fully trust his judgment again,

994
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: and he was going to be a political target. Who

995
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: wants to be the minister or the government that protects

996
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: the guy that protected Gevin mac skimming, even if he's

997
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: the guy who didn't know that he was protecting the

998
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: bad guy. And ultimately we've probably got away lightly. I

999
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: didn't want to have to pay him one hundred and

1000
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: twenty four thousand dollars, but that was the low end

1001
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: of things. That was his notice period. Is probably the

1002
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: very least you could pay him. But count today as

1003
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: a small victory for Andrew Costa because he's cleared his reputation,

1004
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: even if he's lost his.

1005
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: Job either duel, whether.

1006
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: As a dick myself, I object to being lumped in

1007
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: with David Seymour, Hither, what is wrong with you? You

1008
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: choose to believe a lefty principle, You're twisted Hither you're

1009
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: out of order. Look, I'm not gonna lie that was

1010
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: out of order. I'm really sorry, and no one is

1011
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: telling me to say this. The boss hasn't that. I

1012
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: don't even know what the boss was doing in Ah. No, No,

1013
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying this. I'm sorry for calling the Deputy Prime

1014
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Minister a dick, and I'm going to as soon as

1015
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: we go to the news break, I'm going to pick

1016
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: up my phone and I'm going to call David Seymour

1017
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: and apologize. He got on my tit. He did as

1018
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: you could tell, but that does not mean that you

1019
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: can say things like that. So please accept my apology.

1020
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Don't even worry, don't don't. No, you don't need to

1021
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: write to me anymore. I see the text's going off.

1022
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: I'd say it's about seventy five percent telling me off

1023
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: at the stage. By the way, anyway, Leo mLOY is

1024
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: going to yeah, and I will report back to you

1025
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: whether he accepted my apology or not. Leo mLOY on

1026
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: getting fined by the Veterinary Council. Next news Talk SIB.

1027
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: Under two.

1028
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: Cause you little Christmas here have you The day's newspeakers

1029
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: talk to Heather first, Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One

1030
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: New Zealand and the Power of satellite Mobile News Talks ENDB.

1031
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: We just spent the first of the government. Remember the

1032
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: government put aside that money for alluring events over here.

1033
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: We've just spent the first of that and we got

1034
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: Lincoln Park Park that because we will know no pun intended,

1035
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: we will be discussing the Lincoln Park before we speak

1036
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: to the minister who showed out the cash. Louise ups

1037
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: since she's with us. After six o'clock huddle standing by.

1038
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: Also update on David. I called David to apologize. David

1039
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: has very graciously accepted my apology. And then, because under

1040
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: all of that, Bravado is actually a very nice guy.

1041
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: He asked if I was okay, Not in the kind

1042
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: of way like mate, you're being weird? Are you okay?

1043
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: More like, uh mad, Yeah, you made him woopsie, Are

1044
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: you okay? So that's to put a bow on that one.

1045
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Then twenty four away.

1046
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: From six, hever do for c Ellen.

1047
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 2: Now, can you remember the time that Leo mLOY breached

1048
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: names suppression and got fined fifteen thousand dollars by the courts.

1049
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: Well four years on and he's just been pinged again,

1050
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: and this time it's by the Veterinary Council of New

1051
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: Zealand who've ordered him to pay twenty three thousand dollars.

1052
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: Leo Maloy is with us. Hello Leo, Heather, how are

1053
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: you today? I'm very well, thank you. Are you going

1054
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: to pay this?

1055
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 20: Well, they haven't built me yet, but when they build me,

1056
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 20: I expect I probably will. Why, well, I still kind

1057
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 20: of register even though I'm as a retired vet. I

1058
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 20: don't really want to lose my title. We don't want

1059
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 20: to be struck aufing like that.

1060
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: So is it worth twenty three thousand dollars to stay

1061
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: in the register?

1062
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 20: Well, I mean, I never never use that for leverage,

1063
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 20: but in my view, once you're a VET, you're always

1064
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 20: a vet, and it's a little bit of a bond

1065
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 20: between us, so I would have thought it's worth it.

1066
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: So what is the twenty three thousand dollars for?

1067
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 20: Just legal fees? It's just those lunatics from Crown Prosecution

1068
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 20: Services down there in Wellington who they pursued the whole

1069
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 20: thing right from the start. Never been about other veterinarian.

1070
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 20: It's not one veterinarian even complained about what I did,

1071
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 20: and not one member of the public complained for that matter,

1072
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 20: but a registrar who was himself a lawyer named Liam Shields.

1073
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 20: I think his name was. He contacted us about four

1074
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 20: years ago and said, we're going to interview you. Can

1075
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 20: I come and see you, which we did, and then

1076
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 20: he said a letter about six months later saying we're

1077
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 20: going to pursue these charges and this has taken this

1078
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 20: long for us to get around the table.

1079
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: But Ang, so, how are the legal costs that the

1080
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: Veterinary Council has incurred.

1081
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 20: That's a very good question, and that may be one

1082
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 20: that's being contemplated across the industry today because I've had

1083
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 20: a lot of vets in touch with me and they're

1084
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Speaker 20: all expressing their dismay at what happened. Because see, we

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00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 20: live in the veterory profession. There's only fifty people went

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00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 20: through in my year, and ten percent of them are dead,

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 20: all by their own hand. I might have, but it's

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00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 20: a bit of a digression, so we won't go there.

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Speaker 20: But ten percent of them are dead, so forty five

1090
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 20: are left them. They had a reunion about four months ago.

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00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 20: We had some dialogue after that, but a mutual chat

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00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 20: side thing on WhatsApp, and it was quite interesting talking

1093
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 20: to them about what was going on and how a

1094
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 20: lot of people sort of feel like they've lost control

1095
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 20: of the industry. The Veterory Counsel now seems to run

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00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 20: its own race, and as you get a certain type

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Speaker 20: of veterinarian who wants to be an adjudicator. So two

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00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 20: of the five year stay on the panel were adjudicated

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Speaker 20: were vets. Yeah, the other three we are sorry, three

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Speaker 20: of the five. Two of the five were lawyers, and

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Speaker 20: I think there was a sixth lawyer there too, a

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Speaker 20: six person who's a lawyer. But yeah, it's all about

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00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 20: the lawyers. They tend to make all the rules now

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00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 20: and they just proceed so when you're read just as

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00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 20: a lawyer too.

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Speaker 2: But in all like, genuinely you have no idea how

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00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: the Veterinary Council has incurred legal fees with regards to

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Speaker 2: your breach of you breaching name suppression.

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00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 20: Well, this guy's name was Finley Biggs and he's got

1110
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 20: facial hair. I'm not sure what to read into that,

1111
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 20: but I'm always deeply suspicious of a mammoth facial hair.

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00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 20: If Williamson still got facial hair, I'm not quite sure

1113
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 20: about that. No cricketer now, no, No, that fellow you're

1114
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 20: going to have next on the.

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Speaker 2: Huddle, Oh Morris, I don't know what I asked Morris.

1116
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 20: Yeah, okay, he'll be suspicious of those sort of people.

1117
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 20: But any know this Finlay big rooster, he said around

1118
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 20: the show yesterday, and he had a feabit to say

1119
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 20: or they didn't know much about veterinary matters. He was

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Speaker 20: very much into the technical legal elements. And we spent

1121
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 20: about four and a half hours zooming. And of the

1122
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 20: four and a half hours, they took a forty five

1123
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 20: minute break from morning teen and they took an hour's

1124
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 20: break for lunch, so about half the time was just

1125
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 20: spent doing what you're doing. And when they come back,

1126
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 20: they said that you're going to pay forty five percent

1127
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 20: of our costs, which will be eighteen thousand or something.

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Speaker 20: Plus you're getting fined another five thousand dollars for the

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Speaker 20: cost of the hearing today.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what you said, remarkably chill about it, Leo.

1131
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Leo malloy, retired VET and best

1132
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Speaker 2: of luck with it. Twenty away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty A name

1134
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 2: Morris Williamson and Allie Jones on the Huddle with me.

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Speaker 2: Morris First of all, I mean, do you have facial hair?

1137
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 3: No?

1138
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 12: But I did for many years.

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00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean should I ask the same question of you, Alie?

1140
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 21: I knew you were going to do that. I knew

1141
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 21: that and booked them for a week.

1142
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: Only because no, Allie, honestly, only.

1143
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: Because I have done that dead.

1144
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: The lights at the gym are really bright, and the

1145
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: other day I was standing there and I thought, oh, lord, girl,

1146
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: you're going to turn into one of those women with

1147
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: the beard.

1148
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 21: And about me, I know, well I need to go

1149
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 21: when I hear my husband starting to go mad, which

1150
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 21: is the noise for a ghost. So it's not a

1151
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 21: silly question. But no, I don't have face.

1152
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm so pleased to hear it.

1153
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 4: Okay, now I'm comfortable with this. I'm frightened.

1154
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: Oh we haven't even got started, Morris. We're still dealing

1155
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: with the face. There's a lot we can go far

1156
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: further south. Now, Andrew Costa quitting? Is this the right outcome? Morris?

1157
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's correct that he quit, or as

1158
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 12: I think Sir Brian Wroch said, they were to find.

1159
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 12: And what I don't get is if you resign from

1160
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 12: anything you've taken the ownership on that and decided to

1161
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 12: do it, which is fine. I think you should just

1162
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 12: get any leave that's owing to you and paid up

1163
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 12: until the following Friday or whatever. But to actually choose

1164
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 12: to resign, as many of these people have in the

1165
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 12: health system and right across the government sector. They resign

1166
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 12: from the job therein which means they are choosing to go,

1167
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 12: and then we give them a big payout. I just

1168
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 12: don't get it.

1169
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't quite understand it either, Alie, other than the

1170
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: only possible explanation is that they have an extraordinary notice

1171
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 2: period that they have to work out and then they

1172
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: get paid for actually not even turning up at the office.

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00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 21: Yeah. Look, I think Morris is being a little bit

1174
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 21: disingenuous because he knows from his work life too that

1175
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 21: people's contracts and arrangements vary. It is not one size

1176
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 21: fits all, and if you resign, you can't say that

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00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 21: everyone who resigns, you know it gives a couple of

1178
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 21: weeks notice and then they're gone on Friday. When you

1179
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 21: negotiate your contract, you obviously negotiate it according to who

1180
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 21: you are, what you've done, are you know, your experience

1181
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 21: and what hole you're going to leave when you go,

1182
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 21: and I think you see that reflected in these high profiles.

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00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, allie. If you're Andrew Costa

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00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: and you resign today, which he's done, and then you

1185
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: have a three month notice period, should we be paying

1186
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: you out for your three month notice period if you're

1187
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: not turning up at the office for the next three.

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Speaker 21: Months that if that's what the contract says, I mean

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00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 21: that you cannot This all comes down. I'm not an

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00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 21: employment lawyer. I've got no idea what's in cost of

1191
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 21: contractor or even what's an employment law. But you can't

1192
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 21: just go well, I don't think that we should be

1193
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 21: paying out three months. These people have got contracts, they

1194
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 21: negotiate their contracts, they all vary. It is what it is.

1195
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 21: I think it's a shame that this money is spent

1196
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 21: at a time when we could use it at the

1197
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 21: cold space. But unfortunately that is the contract they have negotiated, and.

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 12: Unfortunately I got accused of being being disingenuous. I've seen

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Speaker 12: a number of employment contracts in the private sect they're

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00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 12: and in the public I don't know any that says

1201
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 12: we'll give you a big payout if you choose to quit.

1202
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 12: I know that if we're going to make you redund

1203
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 12: if we're going to make you redundant, we should pay

1204
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 12: you a redundancy. If you're going to be even if

1205
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 12: it's going to be a constructive dismissal, you'll have a

1206
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 12: right to take a claim about it. But if you

1207
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 12: just choose, you can't just go in one day and

1208
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 12: say you know what, I don't want to keep doing

1209
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 12: this job and then say now pay me out.

1210
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: But hold on the go.

1211
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 21: We don't know that that's what happened.

1212
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: That's not what's happening. So what's happening, No, it appears

1213
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: is two different things. So Morris, in many cases like

1214
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: Andrew Costa, he's resigning right, clearly a forced resignation, so

1215
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: he's resigning under durest. And then he's got three months

1216
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: to serve, so they pay him for that three months

1217
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 2: and they say don't come into the office. That's legally,

1218
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair, right, Yeah.

1219
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 12: Well, I guess we need to see the exact wording

1220
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 12: of the contract. But there's been so many others when

1221
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 12: I've seen, like the chief executive that Health New Zealand

1222
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 12: and so on, that they decide this is no longer

1223
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 12: the job I want to do, so I'm resigning, and

1224
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 12: then they get a very large payout, and I just

1225
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 12: don't agree with that at all.

1226
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: See what's going on here. I'm on your side on this, Morris,

1227
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: because what's going on here is they are being forced

1228
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: out and then getting this lovely little notice period without

1229
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: having to come in. And then the other nice little

1230
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: thing that we apparently do now is we create a

1231
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: restraint of trade claws for somebody like what's his name,

1232
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: Adrian or when there is no competition. So it's all

1233
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just designed to find ways to pay

1234
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: them to go away, isn't it.

1235
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 12: You're saying he can't go to another reserve bank in

1236
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 12: New Zealand.

1237
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: No, I don't mutual.

1238
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 21: It's a mutual agreement though. Right this is the thing.

1239
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 21: I don't think anyone rocks up and goes I'm going

1240
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 21: to resign today. It's quite clear with the people that

1241
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 21: have resigned recently that it has been a mutual agreement,

1242
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 21: and part of that mutual agreement in their contract will

1243
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 21: be that workout.

1244
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, the problem is, it's tricky, tricky stuff that's

1245
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: going on, and it's our money.

1246
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1247
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 21: Look, I don't disagree with you, but it is what

1248
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 21: it is. Your contract says what it says. They want

1249
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 21: to go, they want you to go. It's a mutual agreement.

1250
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 21: Off you go and it's three months work you pet,

1251
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 21: work your time.

1252
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll take a break, come back to you go

1253
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: shortly caught it too The.

1254
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real Team, the only

1255
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: truly global brand.

1256
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: Right, You're back with the Huddle Allie Jones and Morris Williamson. Allie,

1257
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: where do you fall on the school lunch drama? Who

1258
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: do you believe here?

1259
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 12: Oh?

1260
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 21: God, it's so hard, isn't. I've heard your interview before.

1261
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 21: Let's draw a veil very discreetly over there.

1262
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 6: To move on.

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 21: I know Peggy really well Peggy Burrows. I've known her

1264
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 21: for a number of years. She has a straight shoo,

1265
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 21: so she doesn't take any bs, and she knows her stuff.

1266
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 21: I think she's stayed really calm in the light of

1267
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 21: what's been going on. Politicians do not like people like that,

1268
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 21: and male politicians especially don't like that. Sorry Morris, but

1269
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 21: what annoys me about this is that Seymour is in

1270
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 21: a position of power. He is basically bullying her. And

1271
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 21: I would like to say I'm amazed, or I wish

1272
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 21: i could say I'm amazed at him making this personal,

1273
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 21: but I'm not. And I've seen it before with politicians

1274
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 21: who use their power to bully and make things personal.

1275
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 21: I'm really pleased that Peggy's put up the evidence that

1276
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 21: she has. It's clear that Seymour can't, and I'm waiting

1277
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 21: to see that.

1278
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: Mauric.

1279
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, I agree.

1280
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 12: I think it's based on evidence, and I would hope

1281
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 12: that the food safety people who make the claim that

1282
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 12: it's stuff that's been there for a long time can

1283
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 12: actually verify it. I mean you can Otherwise, anyone can

1284
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 12: say anything they like at any time, and then that

1285
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 12: becomes the narrative. I mean, there is an evidence tree

1286
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 12: here that they could follow, do a little bit of

1287
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 12: forensic sort of when meals were delivered and how many

1288
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 12: and how many were left and so on. I don't

1289
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 12: know where the truth lies, and so I can't take

1290
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 12: a position on it, but I do believe if you

1291
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 12: want to go into a debate on these things, you

1292
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 12: better come armed with some fats.

1293
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say so too. Okay, now do you know, Morris,

1294
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: if your car's regio and warrant is completely up to date,

1295
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: right I do.

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Speaker 12: In fact, I've got this natty little app from New

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Speaker 12: Zealand Transport Agency on my cell phone and if I

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Speaker 12: click it, it opens up and shows me all the

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Speaker 12: vehicles we've got here. And we've got a whole lot

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Speaker 12: because the kids have got cars, and Rayven's got a car,

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Speaker 12: and I've got a diesel that's got to have ro

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 12: and it tells me the status of them all. I

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01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 12: noticed that I'm due for a warrant in three weeks

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01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 12: on one of mine, and I've still got about five

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 12: thousand kilometers of ruck left the guard. It's all just

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Speaker 12: sitting on my screen, so I never alert.

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Speaker 2: You, like does it say hey, your warrants up in

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Speaker 2: three weeks or whatever?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it does.

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Speaker 7: This is fantastic.

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Speaker 12: It's it's a free app out of the New Zealand

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Speaker 12: Transport Agency. You can register all your vehicles on it,

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Speaker 12: put them all onto the system and then I don't

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Speaker 12: know whether you have to use real me. I had

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Speaker 12: to use real me to log in, but maybe other ways.

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Speaker 4: It's just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I've died a little bit inside. Did you die a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 12: Different.

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Speaker 21: It's amazing. I mean water smarty Pence, you are for

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Speaker 21: an old man.

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Speaker 19: I mean that.

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Speaker 3: Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Ologies do we need on this show today?

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Speaker 21: Look, I don't know, do we get a free tick

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Speaker 21: after the nights one or something? I don't know. No,

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Speaker 21: I think that's really good and I think I'm going

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Speaker 21: to do that too. So it's an z t A one.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just n z TA app. I think if

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Speaker 12: you go into the app store you'll see it sitting

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Speaker 12: there and you then load your vehicles by a registration

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Speaker 12: plate and it tells you when the warrants jew when

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Speaker 12: the registration's due, and if you've got a diesel vehicle,

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Speaker 12: when you're due.

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Speaker 2: How good is that?

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Speaker 17: Brilliant?

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, mine's coming up. I know my reag is

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 21: coming up. But that's just because I checked the stick

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Speaker 21: of this morning. I'll have to be a bit more

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Speaker 21: sophisticated next time.

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Speaker 2: Good on you guys. I mean nothing, honestly, once it's digital,

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: you've got it sorted. Other than that, it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, both of you. Morris Williams and

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01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: Auckland councilor and Alie Jones red pr Now just a

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01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: word of warning if you do go and download this

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01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: NZTA app, and if you do, have to come across

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01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: real Me Thoughts and prayers, because that is where people

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: go to have their souls killed click by click. Nine

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Speaker 2: away from six it's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on My

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Speaker 1: Art Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Heather OMG. That NZTA app could be life changing. Thanks

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01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: for the heads up, mark, Heather. It doesn't help that

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01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: the NZTA sends you're a reminder five to six weeks

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01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: before and then one week out, because first you forget,

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,479
Speaker 2: then you can't afford, and then you panic. Loll well,

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01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: thank you. Five away from six. Now Louise Upston is

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Speaker 2: going to be this after six. She's the Tourism Minister.

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01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: She's the minister who said it side this big pot

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Speaker 2: of money so that we could attract events into the

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Speaker 2: country and we absolutely have to be doing it. I

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Speaker 2: love the idea. And the first event was selected today

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Speaker 2: and was paid for by this and it's Lincoln Park.

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Speaker 2: Now I say Lincoln Park like that because it's not

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: oasis or taite, do you know, or lady Gagah you

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, it's not like where Marquee.

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Speaker 2: It's it's Lincoln Park. It's okay, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: love Lincoln Park. I mean, let's be honest about it.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Park as a tribute band at the moment because

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01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: the actual Lincoln Park guy is no longer there. But

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Speaker 2: I suppose you've got to start somewhere. So I'm a

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Speaker 2: little bit I'm sort of a little bit. I've got

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: mixed emotions about it, where I'm like, yay, we've got

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Speaker 2: an event that apparently was only going to go to

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Speaker 2: Australia and not come to New Zealand. But then also,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was fizzling for something a bit bigger.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, as I say, mixed emotions, we're gonna deal

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Speaker 2: with that. But anyway, there is a really big list

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Speaker 2: of events that have been funded here, and because it's

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Speaker 2: two different pots of money, one is to attract the

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Speaker 2: big event international events SOB. The second pot is designed

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Speaker 2: to increase international visitation and drive economic activity in the

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Speaker 2: short term, and that pot has its funded the Tussock

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Speaker 2: Country Music Festival in Gore and various other highlights like

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01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to be mean to Gore. Good people

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Speaker 2: come from Gore. I mean, you know, We've got family

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Speaker 2: members from Gore. They don't want to be named. I

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01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: do understand that, so you know, I'll protect their anonymity.

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Speaker 2: But Goare is a great place I've spent I've gone

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Speaker 2: to the Howling at the Moon Cafe, had a great

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Speaker 2: time there. But I'm just all I'm trying to say

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Speaker 2: is I just don't need any more apologies. So this

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: is what I'm going really hard on letting you know

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Speaker 2: that I love Gore. But is this the event that

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Speaker 2: is going to you know, attract, you know, drive the visitation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyway Louise can answer it from when

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Speaker 2: she's with us. Shortly, I give you some happy news.

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Speaker 2: I come with some sad news. Guess what two sectors

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01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: have had a pay rise in the past year when

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Speaker 2: you were just pay for inflation, there are only two sectors.

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: Which sectors are they first sector healthcare and social services?

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: And really, honestly, when you adjusted for inflation, it's about

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: zero that they got. So the last one, the one

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Speaker 2: sector that got the biggest pay rise when adjusted for inflation,

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01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: is local government administration roles zero point three percent pay rise.

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Speaker 2: How happy we are to share this news with you

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Speaker 2: tonight Louise Upston next.

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Speaker 3: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls and

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 3: how will it affect the economy?

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01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: The big business questions on the Business hour, we'd had

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: the duplicy Allen and Mass.

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Speaker 3: Motor vehicle insurance. Your futures had good hands, new stalks.

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Speaker 2: Be even in coming up in the next hour. The

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01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: US market is up again at all times all time.

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 2: HEISMLFIT Asset Management will explain genatib Schrainey with her take

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01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: on the Reserve Bank stuffing up the comm so we

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: have higher than expected fixed rates. And Gavin Gray is

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: the UK for US seven past six started banging your

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Speaker 2: head in there. Lincoln Parks the governments use the first

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Speaker 2: of the Big Event Fund and it has been spent

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Speaker 2: on bringing Lincoln Park to Auckland. They'll play at Spark

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Speaker 2: Arena next year. There's also a six sixty and Symphony

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Speaker 2: co Lab which will play at christ Church as a

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Speaker 2: new stadium, and then a brand new EDM festival Wellington's waterfront.

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Speaker 2: Louise Upston is the Minister for Tourism and with me

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Speaker 2: Hi Luise.

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Speaker 17: Good afternoon, Heather, how are you yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm well did you listen to that? And think yay

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01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: or oh gosh, is that what we're doing.

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Speaker 17: No, absolutely, absolutely pumped, absolutely pumped, And I know that

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 17: Aucklanders will be knowing and actually from other parts of

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Speaker 17: New Zealand as well, because Lincoln Park wasn't coming to

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Speaker 17: New Zealand before we put this major events and tourism

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Speaker 17: package together. So that's exactly what this fund is all about,

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Speaker 17: is making sure New Zealand doesn't miss out on fantastic

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Speaker 17: artists where the Lincoln Park. Well, one of the challenges

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01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 17: is the costs of getting to New Zealand and so

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Speaker 17: that is a very obvious barrier and so for some

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01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 17: artists it's us being able to say, well, actually we

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 17: will provide some support for those costs, to remove that barrier,

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 17: to help you come to New Zealand. Because we know

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Speaker 17: that the return out of concerts and things like that,

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01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 17: for every dollar invested, three dollars twenty return and so

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 17: that we've seen the evidence for that. Auckland's got great

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 17: data on how important concerts and events are and so

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Speaker 17: we want to invest. We want to make sure that

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Speaker 17: these artists come to New Zealand and that we have

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 17: a great lineup of events for all sorts of tastes

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Speaker 17: and experiences.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, Louise. I was slightly disappointed because

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: I was hoping for a big Eden Park concert like

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01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: an Oasis or a Lady Gaga or Tata. Have I

1453
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: maybe underestimated how big Lincoln Park is going to be

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: or what's going on here.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think you also need to be patient because

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Speaker 17: we've got further announcements to come. But this is you know,

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01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 17: Lincoln Park's here in March next year. So what we

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 17: needed to do was to make announcements for artists that

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 17: will be coming early in the year next year, and

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Speaker 17: there'll be a whole lot of Lincoln Park fans out

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 17: there who are beside themselves tonight. I think it's fair

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01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 17: to say I was probably a bit more excited about

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 17: six sixty in Symphony, but in the announcement that we

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 17: made today, there is something for everyone. There is such

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 17: a wide range of events.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for mentioning six sixty, because I was a

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01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: little bit surprised for that. I thought that this money

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Speaker 2: was designed to on one hand draw international gigs here

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: in six sixty and Symphony clearly not I mean their

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Speaker 2: local gigs. And then the other one was designed to

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Speaker 2: drive international visitation across the country. Is it going to

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it going to drive do you think so?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 2: For both those acts.

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Speaker 17: Of global artists, you know, they just happened to be homegrown,

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Speaker 17: So why would we not support concerts that demonstrate the

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Speaker 17: best of New Zealand artists. So it was never about

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 17: only international artists. What we want to ensure is that

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Speaker 17: New Zealand has a wide range of events.

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Speaker 2: On offer and we're able to support them.

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Speaker 17: In this instance, it is about launch obviously of the

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Speaker 17: christ Church Stadium. Yes, and you know the two different

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 17: funds the Event Attraction one is light Lincoln Park. They

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01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 17: wouldn't be coming here otherwise. We're going out to kind

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01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 17: of attract those events into New Zealand. The same with

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Speaker 17: the FIFA World Series that's going to be fantastic for

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,440
Speaker 17: a whole range of sporting fans.

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 2: And the Tassau Country Music Festival in Gore.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely we want visitors to be dispersed into different parts

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01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 17: of New Zealand. With the Event Boost, we've been really

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01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 17: clear when it's an existing event, we want the funding

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 17: to be used to attract new visitors and some of

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 17: what we have funded there, for example, the Iron Man

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 17: in Topau is to attract international visitors in the Pro

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01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 17: Series to come and do the event in New Zealand.

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: So there's quite a mixture.

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Speaker 17: But we were really clear with Event Boost it had

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 17: to be if it was an existing event, something different,

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01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,879
Speaker 17: something in addition that would help us to attract visitors

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Speaker 17: from overseas well. The main thing is we've got a

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 17: wide range, wide range of music, sport, arts culture across

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01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 17: New Zealand, big cities, small towns, different times of year

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 17: and really hitting different audiences and different international visitors that

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01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 17: we'll see an appeal. So it is a complete mixture,

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 17: as it should be.

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Speaker 2: Great Louise, I say this about Lincoln Park and then

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm probably going to buy almost certainly going to buy tickets.

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: I can't lie, Louise. Thank you very much, Louis Epstein,

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Speaker 2: the Minister for Tourism. It's twelve past sex.

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Speaker 3: Heather duperl Yeather.

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Speaker 2: I took my children, my daughter and my three grandchildren

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Speaker 2: to Lewis Capaldi last night. It was fantastic concert. It

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01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 2: was the best ever. So I told you about this.

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Speaker 2: The concert Club is made of three members and one

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01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: of the members went to Lewis Capaldi. To be fair,

1516
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: they were doing it. It was part of their job.

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01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: They were corporate hosting. They're so had to attack some

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: other people and anyway, so she decided to go to

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01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 2: Lewis Capaldi and didn't invite in mine us so evidently

1520
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: had much cooler friends, much friendlier friends to take instead,

1521
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: and then made the mistake of rubbing salt in the

1522
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: wound and texting us last night and said, guys, I

1523
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 2: don't want to be a dick, but Lewis Capaldi is great.

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Speaker 6: Just what.

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Speaker 12: This?

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Speaker 2: So I have to just my curiously enjoy it via

1527
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: the radio because she was there texting us about how

1528
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: great it was, having not invited us. So anyway, winner yay,

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Speaker 2: I did hear it was fantastic. What about this? A

1530
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Speaker 2: key we author has been paid by anthropic AI as

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Speaker 2: compo for you for using its book her books rather

1532
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: to train the AI chatbots. So what's been going on

1533
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Speaker 2: anthropic AI. I don't know if you're aware of us.

1534
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean this is a problem across the AI, but

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Speaker 2: Anthropicals in particular had been accused of using millions of

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: pirated books to train its language models. Because our books

1537
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: are obviously better than all the other stuff that you

1538
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: get on the internet, right, I mean you could scrape

1539
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: the emails and the social media posts, the Facebook stuff,

1540
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 2: but but people just write like clowns on that don't

1541
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't even have grammar half the time.

1542
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: Sentences don't make sense, things aren't capitalized in the right places.

1543
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 2: But books have been sub edited, so they are obviously

1544
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: going to be as correct as possible. So that's why

1545
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 2: Anthropic has been using it. Anyway, hadn't didn't have permission,

1546
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 2: so they got taken to court and this happened in California.

1547
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: Anthropic has now settled and agreed to pay out up

1548
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Speaker 2: to about two point six billion New Zealand dollars. And

1549
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: one of the authors in New Zealand that gets paid

1550
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: is one called Catherine Chidji. I think you completely stuffing

1551
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: up her name. I realize that anyway, she's got about

1552
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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars per book, which, if you know anything

1553
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Speaker 2: about royalties and books, that's not bad money. Three books

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Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars. Welcome, Thank you very much. Quarter Pass.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: That's Heather Duplessy Allen on the business hour with MAS

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Speaker 1: Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your futures in good hands, used talks'd behither.

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Speaker 2: I went to Metallica, fantastic put Auckland in a great light.

1580
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Speaker 2: I'm a guzsy boy. It doesn't matter who it is.

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Speaker 2: Bring it on, Bill, I like your attitude. Eighteen past six.

1582
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Speaker 2: Now Andrew Curtain and Milford Acid Management is with us

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Speaker 2: high Andrew.

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Speaker 3: Eve, then Heathers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this US stock market has resumed, It's run

1586
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: higher today. It's now closing in on its all time highs.

1587
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: What has driven this sharp bounce?

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01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 22: That's one of these odd ones. There's nothing really specific

1589
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 22: you can point to. The market sold off. This is

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 22: decinly five hundred sold off about five percent throughout the

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 22: first two or three weeks of November, and then it's

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 22: basically clawed all of that back in a straight line.

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 22: I think the market's rallied six for the last seven days,

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 22: so it's always back to where it was at about

1595
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 22: a percent from its highs. People were trying to point

1596
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 22: to a few things. One piece of one piece potentially

1597
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 22: driving is the markets that have moved to sort of

1598
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 22: price in another rate cut from the federal reserves so

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 22: just like the Benz put in the rate cut last

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Speaker 22: week in New Zealand, they're expecting one more cut to

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 22: come from the Fed next week, and the market generally

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 22: responded well to that. There's been some news around Trump

1603
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 22: is becoming more likely to appoint an economist called Kevin

1604
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 22: has It as the new FED governor, and he seemed

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 22: to be supportive for markets. He likes intras interest rates

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 22: and sort of stimulating the economy. But you know, outside

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 22: of that, everyone's a sort of get a bit excited now.

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01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 22: But for what's called a Christmas rally, the semus, it

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01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 22: tends to be quite a strong month. So once the

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 22: momentum gets going, people sort of tend to sort assume

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01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 22: on the more positive look and think it may continue.

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Speaker 2: And is it the case that this time it's not

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01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: the tech stocks that have been leading the charges to

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01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 2: other sectors.

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01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 22: Yeah, for once, we can stop talking about tech stocks

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 22: and NAO bubbles, because we've seen a broadening of the leadership.

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 22: And if you sort of look over the last month

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 22: or so, healthcare stocks have already uperformed. There'll been one

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01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 22: of the sort of leading sectors. That's sort of a

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01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 22: mix of people wanting to own stuff that is not

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01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,480
Speaker 22: technology and is a little bit more let's say, defensive

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01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 22: or less risky. But we've also seen what we call

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 22: real economy stocks, so stops that are sort of linked

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01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 22: to sort of the economic growth start to outperform. This

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01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 22: includes consumer discretionary stocks, I think stops like hotels, airlines.

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Speaker 22: They've also have been having quite a strong couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and any specific stocks that are getting attention that

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Speaker 2: you think is worth calling out.

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Speaker 22: One that's plowed a little bit under the ray. There

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01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 22: is a stock called Eli Lilly. Now it's pretty well

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 22: known because this is one of the stops or the

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Speaker 22: leading company now behind the fantastic weight loss drugs. You know,

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Speaker 22: these drugs that are called glp ones, which as sort

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Speaker 22: of proven to help you lose about twenty percent of

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Speaker 22: your body weight over a period of time. That stock

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 22: just passed over one trillion dollars, which is the first,

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Speaker 22: I believe, the first healthcare of pharmaceuticals stock to do that,

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Speaker 22: and it's basically because it's key drug called zep bound

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 22: has just been going absolutely gangbusters and there's just been

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01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 22: beating all expectations. Outside of that, there's probably I'll probably

1641
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 22: call out Apple, which people don't talk about Apple as

1642
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 22: much because the scene is a little bit more boring.

1643
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 22: But it's the new iPhone release has gone really well,

1644
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 22: so it's been performing very strong. It's closing in on

1645
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 22: the video to be the largest company and the world now.

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01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 22: I think it's got another couple hundred billion dollars. A

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Speaker 22: marker captor going also passed the video brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you very much. Andrew is so fascinating talking

1649
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Speaker 2: to you about that. That's Andrew Curtain and Milford Asset

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Speaker 2: Management six two.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

1652
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather duper Cila and MAS

1653
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: Motor Vehicle Insurance.

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Speaker 3: Your futures in good hands, news talks that'd be.

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Speaker 2: It sounds a little bit of good news for a

1656
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Anyone flying with the New Zealand looks like

1657
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: a New Zealand has managed to avert some of the

1658
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: strike action from the cabin crew next week, so it's

1659
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: reached agreements and principle with two unions that represents the

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,839
Speaker 2: regional turboprop and the wide body cabin crew. Strike notices

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: for both of those fleets have been withdrawn however, and

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01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: there's probably still you know, if you're flying domestically, still

1663
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: a really big problem. They're still negotiating with the narrow

1664
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: body cabin cruise. That strike is currently scheduled for Monday,

1665
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: and it will have implications for domestic jet, Tasman and

1666
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,799
Speaker 2: Pacific schedules, which is just like all the most important ones. Also,

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: Maria men Or Kappa Kingy is taking John Talmerherdy to

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01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: court seeking in an interim injunction. This has come out

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01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: from the Herald. She has filed an application which will

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Speaker 2: be heard tomorrow morning in the High Court in Wellington.

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01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 2: She's not talking to the Herald. Talma Heerda hasn't talked

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01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: to the Herald yet. And quite what the injunction. The

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01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 2: injunction is clearly related to her expulsion from the Maldi party,

1674
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: but quite what the injunction is supposed to do as

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 2: unclear at this stage. Anyway, that's that's going to be

1676
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 2: what's all over the news tomorrow, twenty five past six.

1677
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1678
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: Have you had enough of Taylor Swift here? She's had

1679
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: the record breaking world tour, she's had the concert movie

1680
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: that made over two hundred million dollars and she had

1681
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: a whole new album that sat at number one for

1682
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: nine straight weeks. And she's decided you haven't had enough

1683
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 2: of her yet. Fans need more, so she's dropped the

1684
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 2: first trailer for Taylor Swift Slash The Era's Tour, Slash

1685
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Speaker 2: The Final Show.

1686
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 3: I want to thank every single one of you.

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Speaker 18: For being a part of the most thrilling chapter of

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 18: my entire life to date.

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01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's already a movie, right, because that's the

1690
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 2: Eras Tour movie, and if you've seen that in cinemas,

1691
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 2: this one is slightly different because it includes the entire

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01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: set for her album, The Tortured Poets Department, which came

1693
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: out after the original film went to the cinemas. But

1694
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: if that is not enough for you, there will also

1695
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: be a six But wait, there's more, a sixth part

1696
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: behind the scenes docuseries released with it, and this will

1697
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: give you as a look at how the technical workings

1698
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: of the tour happen. And then apparently it will also

1699
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: feature her fiance, Travis Kelcey. Taylor Swift Slash, The Era's Tour,

1700
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: Slash The Final Show comes to Disney Plus on the

1701
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 2: twelfth worth two episodes of the docuseries, releasing every week following.

1702
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: I can honestly say I haven't watched a single I

1703
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: haven't watched any I don't even know if I've ever

1704
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: watched one of her videos. I've watched none of it

1705
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: at all. And I do not feel you know how

1706
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: sometimes when you you know, when you miss the first one, two, three,

1707
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: four seasons of ships creak and then you try to

1708
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: catch up and you feel overwhelmed by how much you

1709
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: have to I do not feel that feeling with this.

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01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: I just feel like I shall never watch it. It

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01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 2: will never happen. It does not matter here. The calling

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: six sixty a global act as a stretch, I seriously

1713
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 2: doubt there will be a significant amount of overseas a

1714
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: number of overseas people winging it to New Zealand to

1715
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: see them. I've never understood New Zealand's obsession with six sixty.

1716
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: World famous in New Zealand's is that texture? I don't know?

1717
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: Once again, no opinions, No opinions, genative terranny, next the.

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Speaker 3: Marie and only you possess the key longer, drowning and fear,

1719
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 3: all because you came for me.

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Speaker 1: Lot everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the business

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Speaker 1: hour with hand, the duper c Allen and Mass motor

1722
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: vehicle insurance. Your futures in good hands used talks'd.

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01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: Be beginning to look a lot like Chrisma.

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Speaker 12: Have.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guess what Andrew doesn't have to leave Royal Lodge Media.

1726
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Speaker 2: He gets to stay at Royal Lodge for another year.

1727
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 2: What does that say about Charles's decision and his ability

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: to make decisions? Will be a tough brother and a

1729
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: tough king obviously. Gavin Gray with us in about ten

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01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: minutes on that. Right now, it's twenty five away from

1731
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: seven now, a week since the Reserve Bank cut the

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01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 2: OCR to two point twenty five percent. We haven't seen

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: a decrease, but we've seen an increase in longer term

1734
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 2: wholesale raids. Janetib Cherani is The Herald's Wellington Business edit

1735
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Speaker 2: and with us. Hello, Jeanne, Hey, congratulations on your win.

1736
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 23: It's always, you know, little wins in journalism.

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01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: M what did you win?

1739
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,480
Speaker 23: I got a award from the New Zealand Shareholders Association.

1740
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 23: They give an award to It's like a business journalism award,

1741
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 23: So that's nice.

1742
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love any just here there. It is tough there.

1743
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: It is only winners on this show, Janey. So I'm

1744
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 2: glad you're holding up because I'm not on that stage

1745
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: at the minute. Now, we knew this was going to

1746
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: happen eventually read the wholesale interest rates. Fair to say,

1747
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: it's just happened faster than we thought it would.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 23: Look, I mean we never central banks get to a

1750
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 23: point where they might change tack with interest rates. It

1751
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 23: can be a little bit difficult. But what's happened here

1752
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 23: is that the Reserve Bank didn't keep the door open

1753
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 23: to a further interest rate cut last week, and that

1754
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 23: prompted the market to go up. So we saw swat

1755
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 23: brates which influenced mortgage rates. They shot up by about

1756
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 23: thirty basis points. Now the Reserve Bank cut by twenty five,

1757
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 23: they went up by thirty. What that means is that

1758
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:33,799
Speaker 23: we could see fixed mortgage rates start to rise. The question,

1759
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 23: of course, is, you know, no bank will want to

1760
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 23: be the first bank to increase fixed rates, but we

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01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 23: might see them come up. Different economists have different views,

1762
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 23: but some are saying it, you know, early early next year.

1763
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: Do you think the criticism of Christian hawksby for stuffing

1764
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 2: up the comms here is warranted. Could he have left

1765
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: the door a little bit more jar than he did

1766
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: instead of being so definitive.

1767
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Speaker 23: I think it depends on what your view is on inflation.

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01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 23: So if you are worried that you know there is

1769
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 23: a bit of inflation brewing, or that you know the

1770
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 23: economy is well on its way to recovering, then I

1771
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 23: think you wouldn't have a problem with Christian's common tree

1772
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 23: because you might think, well, actually, it's fine if those

1773
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 23: fixed term mortgage rates start rising soon. But if you're

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 23: in the other camp and you believe the economy needs

1775
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 23: more help and we need those fixed rates to come

1776
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 23: down a wee bit or certainly not go up, then

1777
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 23: I think you'll say Christian hawks be is mucked up.

1778
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Speaker 2: Okay, But what about if we take ourselves out of

1779
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: either of those camps and say, what did the Reserve

1780
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Speaker 2: Bank want?

1781
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Speaker 23: Yes, now that's the key question. And people i'm speaking

1782
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 23: to reckon that the Reserve Bank mucked up, right, so

1783
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 23: you know, but what it might also be this it's

1784
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 23: a complicated thing. What it might be was that the

1785
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 23: Reserve Bank may be mucked up a little bit, but

1786
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 23: the market also got ahead of itself. You know, markets

1787
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 23: can be very sensitive and they react sometimes overly strongly.

1788
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 23: They read into things too much. The interesting thing with

1789
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 23: it is that the market jumped after the ocr cut,

1790
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 23: but it's stayed there. So those swap brates haven't come

1791
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 23: back down. They have stayed elevated. Now it'll be interesting

1792
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 23: to see what the new governor who's just started, doctor

1793
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 23: Arna Breeman. It'll be interesting to see when she speaks

1794
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 23: to media before Christmas, whether she tries to talk down

1795
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 23: the market or whether she sticks to the line that

1796
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 23: Christian Hawksby took, which was to be like, it's all good.

1797
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 23: You know where the swapbrates have landed, It's fine.

1798
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 2: What did you make of it?

1799
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 23: Yeah, So she on her second down the job. Yesterday

1800
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 23: she appeared before the Finance and Expenditure Committee in Parliament,

1801
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 23: the MPs. It was funny they asked questions. I think

1802
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 23: they were just trying to get a sense of what

1803
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 23: her vibe on different issues is. She was very calm, clear, confident.

1804
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 23: She really underlined her fixation on keeping inflation in check.

1805
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 23: She you know, she was a bit cautious when asked

1806
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 23: about money printing, and she maybe suggested she'd bring an

1807
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 23: international perspective. She answered the questions safely. Yeah, And it

1808
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 23: was interesting because the MP's were also on their best behavior.

1809
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: I thought were I mean, I thought.

1810
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 2: After that drama with Nichola Willison, all the women shouting

1811
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: at each other, she comes in and they behave themselves

1812
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 2: really well.

1813
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 23: I know, it was quite sweet, really like we've got this,

1814
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 23: you know, trying to impress the foreigner, come.

1815
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 3: In and we're all being nice.

1816
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: You say she was calm, she was actually quite nervous, Janney.

1817
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: I noticed she was. Yeah, she was. There was a

1818
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: lot of hand movement, grabbing at her hands, sort of

1819
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: like doing things to try to calm herself. It's also

1820
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: quite nice to know that she's taking the job seriously,

1821
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: don't you think?

1822
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 23: Yeah, No, for sure, I think, you know, some some

1823
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 23: change at the Reserve Bank is probably a good thing.

1824
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: Is she a first Reserve Bank governor who's a lady?

1825
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 4: I think so.

1826
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: And it's hardly even been mentioned. It's just taken it

1827
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: in our stride, haven't we.

1828
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 23: Well, I love that shouldn't be a.

1829
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: Big deal, that's right, Janey, Hey, thank you very much.

1830
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,839
Speaker 2: Go and celebrate your when Janet TB. Trainy the Herald's

1831
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: Wellington Business editor. It's twenty away from seven.

1832
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 3: Here the duplessy Ellen.

1833
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: I guess how many of the carbon units sold at

1834
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: the final Emissions Trading Scheme auction of the year. Yeah? None, none.

1835
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh because this is money that we're not

1836
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: making for the country. But not a single carbon unit

1837
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: sold because not a single bidder registered for the auction,

1838
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: which means this is the second year that all four

1839
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 2: ETS auctions in the year have failed. The other year

1840
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 2: was twenty twenty three. So it's gone like this twenty

1841
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: twenty three for fail. Last year twenty twenty four, two fail,

1842
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: This year four fail. And the reason being it's because

1843
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 2: the government, like the previous one, keeps changing the climate

1844
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: change policy, which is fine, but it is problematic if

1845
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: you need the money, and it's also problematic if you

1846
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 2: want people to keep on pretending that we're doing something

1847
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: about it and actually trying to fix the climate. And

1848
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: speaking of which, can I point out to you that

1849
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: happily other media are now catching on to the fact

1850
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 2: that we're not going to be paying the billions and

1851
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 2: billions and billions of dollars to some Southeast Asian country

1852
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 2: to plant the trees because you know, we've as you know,

1853
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: we've been having the old tete a tete with Simon

1854
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 2: Watts and Nichola Willis about it on the show yesterday.

1855
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 2: Nikola appeared at the Financial Select Expenditure Select Comittee at

1856
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: the Scrutiny Week and she was asked about it. And

1857
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: today there are columns just flipping out. Everyone's just flipping out.

1858
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: They're like, oh my gosh, we're not going to send

1859
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: the billions of dollars overseas. Just howur we out?

1860
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 3: Why?

1861
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: Because it's common sense, mate, nineteen away from seven.

1862
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 3: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1863
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and Ma's motor

1864
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance, your futures him good hands us talks.

1865
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 2: I'd be hither on the carbon market, I got it one,

1866
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right, None of them solved. And I'm

1867
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 2: a forest owner and man, what a stuff up. It's

1868
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: way bigger than most people know. Yeah, it is a

1869
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: little bit of a stuff up. I am I going

1870
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: to do this, Yeah, gonna do this. Ike is opening tomorrow,

1871
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: I've got some Ken news. Why not? Why Look it's

1872
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: late in the show and you know it's been a

1873
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: day of it. So I'll run you through some IKEA

1874
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: news and just to take sixteen away from seven. Gavin Gray,

1875
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: UK correspondents with US. Hello, Gavin, So Andrew gets to

1876
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: stay in his house for another year.

1877
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 24: Well, I think that is more of a technicality than

1878
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 24: actually going to be reality. I've been hearing from lots

1879
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 24: of people that in the first quarter, first three months

1880
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 24: of next year he will almost certainly be going from

1881
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 24: Royal Lodge.

1882
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 3: This.

1883
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 24: Of course, this is massively a huge house near Windsor

1884
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 24: that's been so controversial that the King's been trying to

1885
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 24: get his brother out of. And yes, I mean in

1886
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 24: technicality he gave a year's notice and gave that on

1887
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 24: the thirtieth of October. But in reality I don't think

1888
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 24: he wants to upset his brother, King Charles any more

1889
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 24: than already done, so I think it's likely he'll move out.

1890
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 24: What's also interesting is he was entitled in theory to

1891
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 24: roughly a million New Zealand dollars for surrendering his seventy

1892
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 24: five year lease early. That's the way in which this

1893
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 24: contract was drawn up. However, apparently the property is in

1894
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 24: such a dilapidated state and in need of such repairs.

1895
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 24: That quote, in all likelihood, Andrew mount Batman winsor the

1896
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 24: form of Prince Andrew will no longer be owed any compensation.

1897
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 24: There's now going to be an inquiry into the Crown

1898
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 24: of State and it's leasing out of the various buildings.

1899
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 24: It's not known whether Andrew mount Batman winsor will be

1900
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 24: called to give evidence. Frankly, even if he is, I

1901
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 24: suspect he'll try and wriggle out of that one, not

1902
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 24: wanting to put his head above the parapit unless necessary.

1903
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 24: So potentially some further embarrassment for the royal founder to

1904
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 24: come on that.

1905
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: Now, givin, I thought that he'd spent some ridiculous amount

1906
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: like ten million pounds or something on renovating the place.

1907
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: So how is it dilipidated? Is it just so big

1908
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 2: that that wouldn't even touch the sides?

1909
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 24: Well, that did a pretty good job, but that was

1910
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 24: when he moved in, and that was twenty five years ago,

1911
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 24: so it's you know, it's probably you know, the problem

1912
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,879
Speaker 24: is it's obviously gone down hill, and these old buildings

1913
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 24: deteriorate very rapidly unless you keep on top of them.

1914
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Now the Bank of England is actually

1915
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: quite worried about the old a eyebabble, isn't it very worried?

1916
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 3: And do you know what?

1917
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 24: The Bank of England rarely puts out these warnings, but

1918
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 24: it has warned of a sharp correction in the value

1919
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,600
Speaker 24: of major tech companies with growing fears, of course, of

1920
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 24: this AI artificial intelligence bubble. According to the Bank of England,

1921
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 24: it says share prices in the UK are close to

1922
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 24: the quote most stretched. In other words, I think you

1923
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 24: could say overvalued since they've been the two thousand and

1924
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 24: eight global financial crisis, with equity valuations in the US

1925
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 24: it says reminiscent of those before the dot com bubble birth.

1926
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 24: So pretty severe warnings here. The bank is outlining that

1927
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 24: the growth of the AI sector in the next five

1928
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,799
Speaker 24: years will be fueled by trillions of dollars of debt,

1929
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 24: raising financial stability risks if then companies go bust, and

1930
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 24: its citing industry figures forecasting spending on infrastructure could top

1931
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 24: some seven and a half trillion New Zealand dollars and

1932
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Speaker 24: says much of this would be funded by AI firms themselves,

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Speaker 24: but half would come through outside sources, mostly through debt,

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Speaker 24: and that it says is a huge risk.

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Speaker 2: Now, Gavin, should we be worried about all that AMO

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Speaker 2: that's been nixt from the German town?

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Speaker 24: Yes, I think we should. After all, why would you

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Speaker 24: steal a whole load of army ammunition if you didn't

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Speaker 24: know where you could sell it and it was going

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Speaker 24: to be used. This is a story that is quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 24: So the theft is thought to have taken place after

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Speaker 24: the driver of a civilian transport company contracted by the

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Speaker 24: military left his truck in an unguarded parking lot overnight.

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Speaker 24: The next day, when the delivery arrived at the Klauswitz

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Speaker 24: Barracks in Germany, the ammunition, some twenty thousand rounds, was

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Speaker 24: found to be missing. The armies launched an investigation. So

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Speaker 24: to the police it's thought as well as can included

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Speaker 24: nine hundred rounds of blank bullets for assault rifles and

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Speaker 24: smoke grenades also went missing from their shipment. And as

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Speaker 24: I said, I think big question marks about how lauri

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Speaker 24: like this could have just been left in a public

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Speaker 24: car park, unguarded overnight.

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Speaker 2: Quite Gavin, thanks very much, really appreciated. Look after yourself

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Speaker 2: that's Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent right here we go.

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Speaker 2: So while I am trying to dampen the enthusiasm somewhat

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Speaker 2: about Ikea tomorrow, I am very happy to report to

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Speaker 2: you one aspect of the Ikea, which is that Ikea

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Speaker 2: is not going to charge you more for their gear

1959
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Speaker 2: than they charge the Australians, which happens way too many,

1960
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Speaker 2: way more than you and I care to admit, and

1961
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Speaker 2: way more than we want to look at. There are

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of retailers will just jack up the

1963
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Speaker 2: price of a Bunnings, just talking about them jack up

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Speaker 2: the price for New Zealand, whereas you know over in

1965
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Speaker 2: Australia they're paying a better price. Ikea is being fair

1966
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Speaker 2: and we know this because the prices have gone live

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Speaker 2: on their website already. So the Billy bookcase, which is

1968
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Speaker 2: like the bookcase everybody needs this one, that's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty nine New Zealand dollars in Australia. One hundred

1970
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Speaker 2: and forty seven. We're we're adjusting for exchange rates here, right,

1971
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Speaker 2: So this is New Zealand dollars. We're talking about one

1972
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Speaker 2: four nine, one four seven same same the ips lompsks

1973
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Speaker 2: swivel chair New Zealand two hundred and nineteen dollars. Over

1974
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Speaker 2: in Australia they're paying two hundred and five dollars, So

1975
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Speaker 2: what's fourteen dollars between friends? The Malm bed frame we're

1976
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Speaker 2: paying three nine nine. The Australians are paying three nine nine.

1977
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 2: The Calyx shelving unit we're paying ninety nine. They're paying

1978
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Speaker 2: one hundred and one. So are you getting cheaper than

1979
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 2: the Aussie's on at least one item? The maca par

1980
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Speaker 2: shoe rack, which actually I probably need thirty nine ninety

1981
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Speaker 2: nine over here, thirty three dollars twenty over there, the

1982
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Speaker 2: clipping two seats sofa three nine nine over here, three

1983
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Speaker 2: seven six over there, So you know, like but some

1984
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,600
Speaker 2: not only in exchange rope bits and bobs, but for

1985
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 2: the most part you're paying the same thing. However, if

1986
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Speaker 2: you are looking this and go are looking at this

1987
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Speaker 2: and going I can do better than this, you can

1988
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Speaker 2: always go to the warehouse. And it's not because of

1989
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Speaker 2: the prices. It's simply because the warehouse is reminding you

1990
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Speaker 2: that they are your guys. Ikea is the sweets, but

1991
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 2: the warehouse is new Zealand. They've put out like they're

1992
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,440
Speaker 2: going hard on this. They've put out an ad campaign

1993
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Speaker 2: on the s social medias and they say no meat balls.

1994
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Speaker 2: Everything else where your local shop Local nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the heather too for See Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ten thousand rounds is not a lot on

1998
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Speaker 2: the grand screen scheme. I just bought one thousand rounds

1999
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Speaker 2: just this month for sport. Jason, thank you for putting

2000
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Speaker 2: that in some perspective for us here that are you

2001
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Speaker 2: finishing Friday like the hosk? Or are you finishing a

2002
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 2: bit later? Well, I think there is only space for

2003
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 2: one person like the hosk at any employment situations, you

2004
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So No, I'll be working a

2005
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 2: full year. He has earned the right to call the

2006
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Speaker 2: shots and do what he wants. No, in fact, I'm

2007
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 2: finishing the Friday before Christmas? What about you? I mean

2008
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 2: that feel? What about you?

2009
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Speaker 4: Laura?

2010
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Speaker 2: Are you working the finish Friday before Christmas ends?

2011
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Speaker 4: I'm working right through ether?

2012
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: What is right through me?

2013
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Speaker 4: Are we working the Friday before Christmas? And I'll be

2014
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 4: continuing working? And I people want to bring up for summer.

2015
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Speaker 4: Talkback will be between night the day over the shat app?

2016
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: Do you just plugging other people shows? Do you do

2017
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: you like work Christmas events?

2018
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Speaker 4: I'll have to look at my roster now, I think so, oh.

2019
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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think most of normal people are working

2020
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 2: up for the Friday before Christmas, aren't we? But but

2021
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a little bit jiggery pokery that's

2022
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: going on here because Mike is leaving so early. I'm

2023
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 2: going to have to go and do Mike's show, and

2024
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: you know what danger money for waking up at two

2025
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Speaker 2: thirty in the morning, and then Ryan's going to be

2026
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Speaker 2: filling in here.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, I was going to say oscave you called it,

2028
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Speaker 13: and he was like, oh, Heathrow, I want to take

2029
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Speaker 13: the earth a few weeks after your mind fill.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, he asked my permission. Yeah yeah, he

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Speaker 2: asked my permission for whatever. Anyway, listen, guys, I'm actually

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Speaker 2: genuinely worried about somebody in our community right now, which

2033
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Speaker 2: is the guy who swallowed the Faberget Pendon. He hasn't

2034
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Speaker 2: poved yet. Police say they have not yet recovered this

2035
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Speaker 2: thing is worth thirty four thousand dollars, so they need

2036
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Speaker 2: to recover it. That is an expensive item in his stomach.

2037
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Speaker 2: You remember I I was telling you about it yesterday.

2038
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Speaker 2: He ate it during the Auckland the theft at the

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Speaker 2: jewelry store on Friday, which means he hasn't pode since Friday.

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Speaker 2: They have had a customer, he's in custody. They have

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Speaker 2: had an officer assigned to watch him constantly, so he

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Speaker 2: hasn't accidentally like he hasn't slipped one out without anybody

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Speaker 2: realizing they are watching and waiting for the poop. That Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: That's five days. I feel like this is this is

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Speaker 2: becoming close to a medical situation and.

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Speaker 13: Man needs to eat some prones White lines by six

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Speaker 13: sixty to play us out tonight. Sex sixty is of

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Speaker 13: course one of the other big events that has been

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Speaker 13: announced today as part of the government's big funding boost

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Speaker 13: that they've given to events.

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Speaker 2: So global artists.

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Speaker 13: Global artists, yet once in a lifetime. Six sixty and

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Speaker 13: Symphony will be at sixteen on the sixteenth of May

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Speaker 13: at Takahada New Stadium down in christ Church. The new

2055
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 13: event will be apparently, according to the notes exclusive to

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Speaker 13: New Zealand will provide good economic benefit at a regional level.

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Speaker 13: So reasons to celebrate all rounds.

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Speaker 2: And like I was telling you the other day, the

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Speaker 2: duftaff is getting big in New Zealand and symphony is

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Speaker 2: part of it.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that as part of it? Any other other big one?

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Speaker 13: There is Ultra Festival coming to Wellington that is a

2063
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Speaker 13: huge international electronic festival.

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Speaker 4: So it's amazing to say one in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Laura, can you put on your list of things

2066
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: that we have to do tomorrow that we call the

2067
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: cops to see if he's poohed? Come on, it's legit.

2068
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 4: It it's a cool case.

2069
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Speaker 2: It's a legit court case.

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Speaker 4: We're worried about him, an't we.

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Speaker 2: It's a medical event as well. Okay, answer is doing

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Speaker 2: it and this is going to be with us on that.

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.

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Speaker 25: Oh yeah, White Lad and Blue Sky who sold did

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Speaker 25: that weekend?

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Speaker 15: H White Line and.

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Speaker 25: Blue Skies who soldered that weekendne

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