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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show you can't bess It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three, news togs head belling.

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Speaker 2: And welcome today the Retail Crime Committee where sixty percent

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Speaker 2: of quit the Rugby Union and their coaching criteria for

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Speaker 2: the all Blacks job Prime ministers in we sought this

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Speaker 2: of Lab's backtor a word after right, Catherine Field and

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Speaker 2: France Rod Little. He's in the UK pasking welcome to

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Speaker 2: the day, seven past six forget greenland in our own backyard.

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Speaker 2: We've got growing action in the Pacific between America and China.

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Speaker 2: This is not breaking news, but the States is trying

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Speaker 2: to renew its strategic compact ties as we speak with

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Speaker 2: places like Palau and the Marshals, and the testimony in

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Speaker 2: front of the House Committee on Natural Resources suggests China

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Speaker 2: is waging a sustain This is America. China is waging

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Speaker 2: a sustained influence campaign aimed at weakening democratic institutions and

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Speaker 2: strategic alignment in the Pacific. Now, this is all good

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Speaker 2: news for US as far as they can work look

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Speaker 2: out and given it felt like America wasn't that overtly

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Speaker 2: interested in the Pacific these past few years, but Trump

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Speaker 2: seems act of everywhere, so the more they're alert to

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Speaker 2: what's going on. The better downside, though, is there appears

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Speaker 2: nothing we can do despite the efforts of US and Australia.

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Speaker 2: Too many Pacific nations these days have gone to a

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Speaker 2: degree with China, and that is for the simple reason

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Speaker 2: of money in whatever form. Places with no dough tend

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Speaker 2: to like large checks. And when our moderate size checks

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Speaker 2: got replaced with much bigger checks, the writing I would

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Speaker 2: have thought was on the wall now the cooks as

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Speaker 2: you're best and closest example. Of course, we can withhold

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Speaker 2: aid until we are blue in the face. It is

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Speaker 2: not going to make a jot of difference. Enter Winston Peters,

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Speaker 2: who I always thought had a good advantage of experience

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Speaker 2: in matters like this, and it has and is making

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Speaker 2: him a very able foreign minister. But he's come on

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Speaker 2: the show a number of times and argued the value

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Speaker 2: of friendship. As I pointed out the cold hard reality

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Speaker 2: of Chinese money and promises. He counters with what seems

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Speaker 2: to be this genuine belief that friendship actually metter is now.

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Speaker 2: I fear that's an old man talking. Is view muddled

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Speaker 2: or muddied by a bygone era and some hope and

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Speaker 2: some good vibes. It'd be nice to think friendship was

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Speaker 2: a thing, but it doesn't beat dollars. I can tell

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Speaker 2: you that some of the Pacific, We'll still say it

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Speaker 2: could have been different if we in Australia had been

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Speaker 2: more generous over the years. But I don't believe that

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Speaker 2: for a minute either. China are here and they're shopping.

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Speaker 2: The upside is America at last is not just woken up,

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Speaker 2: but they might just be awaken alarmed enough to do

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Speaker 2: something about it right Spoilt for choice. We've got a

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Speaker 2: scandal both sides of the Atlantic. This morning in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: which has turned a shite for the administration. Gnomes out

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Speaker 2: brought as Tom Hoeman. He's in reporting direct to the president,

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Speaker 2: and the battle of words rolls on.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody thinks that they were comparing what

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Speaker 3: happened on Saturday to the legal definition of domestic terrorism,

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Speaker 3: and I am not going to prejudge the fact, so

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Speaker 3: I'm not describing it as anything except for a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: Ben and brit I got news on that in the moment.

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Speaker 2: By the way, then on Britain. Starmer's fighting the independible,

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Speaker 2: having blocked Andy Burnham from standing in the by election.

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Speaker 4: Andy Burnham's doing a great job as the mayor of Manchester,

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Speaker 4: but having an election for the Mayor of Manchester when

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Speaker 4: it's not necessary would divert our resources away from the

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Speaker 4: elections that we must have and that we must fight

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Speaker 2: It's amazing he can say that with a straight face.

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Speaker 2: Also another day and I we'll talk to Rod later.

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Speaker 2: Another day, another Tory Suella Braveaman, this time to fix

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Speaker 2: the reform.

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Speaker 5: We can either continue down this route of managed decline

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Speaker 5: to weakness and surrender, or we can fix our country,

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Speaker 5: reclaim our power, rediscover our strength.

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Speaker 2: Nigel is rivening. That's the difference between kar Stara and myself.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcoming talent in. He's keeping talent out to the

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Speaker 2: Middle East, if you can believe it. Given the true

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Speaker 6: And has had to hand back all of these hostages,

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Speaker 2: And from the weather department, she is cold in most

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Speaker 2: And that's his news of the world in ninety yes

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Speaker 2: says regards to whether the Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy says

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Speaker 2: by Thursday things should be back to normal as regards Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: Holman'sen or holmans In rather, I should say Tom homans In.

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Speaker 2: And this is all to do with how it's pretty,

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Speaker 2: of course, and the whole thing's turned to a mess.

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Speaker 2: But in the last hour Trump has announced that ICE

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Speaker 2: which I'm assuming also then means that the shutdown that

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Speaker 2: Talksp Japanese news inflation two point one Is that good? Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's called multi year lows rice inflation, which was a

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Speaker 2: election fair bait, so a bit over a week away

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Speaker 2: and they did up the GDP forecast. They've been upgraded

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you d boy. Michael you reckon You

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Speaker 2: still get in at five thousand and go for the

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Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely, five thousand and ninety one ounce for gold

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Speaker 8: certainty over uncertainty. Perhaps that's a greenland. We've got to

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Speaker 8: obviously trade tensions again. One hundred percent tariff threatened on

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Speaker 8: But yeah, to be fair, it's played this role for centuries.

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Speaker 8: But this year, since nineteen seventy two last year, this year,

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Speaker 8: we're not even out of January yet, and we're up

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Speaker 8: seventeen percent eighty percent of the past twelve months. Long

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Speaker 8: term games even more extraordinary if you look at it.

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Speaker 8: In two thousand we were two sixteen ounce, so risen

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Speaker 8: around about two thousand percent this century.

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Speaker 2: Scarcely is a big factor.

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Speaker 8: All the gold ever mine would fit into just five

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Speaker 8: Olympic sized swimming pools, and it's real cryptoism in game

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Speaker 8: the other way, unlike the gold is something you can see,

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Speaker 8: and central banks might that still voting with their feet

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Speaker 8: And we also know why that has. Just looked at

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Speaker 8: the US national debt clock. We'll just ticked that up

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Speaker 8: to thirty eight point five trillion dollars rising by the second.

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Speaker 8: Just point out that it's not just a US story.

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Speaker 8: Gold is record highest, and euros, yen and kwe does

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Speaker 8: Yet just weird a warning for ever and sort of

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Speaker 8: and seven isn't.

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Speaker 2: A one way bet, No, that is true. Durables do

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Speaker 2: we like it or not?

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Speaker 8: Durables are game well, So orders for long lasting goods

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Speaker 8: biggest rise in six months, economy humming there, orders up

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Speaker 8: five point three percent November, head.

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Speaker 2: Of expectations four percent.

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Speaker 8: That was after two percent for in October. So bouncing back.

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Speaker 8: Mike picture still looks really solid. Call gap capital goods

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Speaker 8: under control and you set public spat between micro O'Leary

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Speaker 8: and COO and Elon Musk has delivered marketing benefits. It's

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Speaker 8: boosted bookings by two to three percent percent. So Larry

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Speaker 8: to thank him and of course those that have missed it.

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Speaker 8: Basically earlier rejected the idea of having Starlink's Wi Fi

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Speaker 8: and no one use them.

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Speaker 8: you're gonna get more than five percent of passengers using them.

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Speaker 2: NFL Super Bowl mondays just under two weeks away, Seahawks Patriots.

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Speaker 1: There's no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic

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Speaker 2: Fawning, Mike Grutchow. As always, I've been to Seattle nearly

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Speaker 2: go and winter, Mike. If the Patriots win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: make a good game twenty three to seven. Last week

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Speaker 2: Now it's not. Isn't life funny? Ain't anyway? We're back

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Speaker 2: UK rules around passports are changing. Britain will require dual

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: Now the cost of that's two hundred and twenty dollars,

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Speaker 2: This seems to have taken on a life of its owner.

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Speaker 11: Is it just me?

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Speaker 2: Every second person I'm talking to is in paper plus

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Speaker 7: Yes, I've got a couple of English neighbors who are

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Speaker 7: getting a passport photo photographed, sorry photocopied is not really

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Speaker 2: Just for clarity's sake, what I'm getting, and I got

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Speaker 7: But there's also considerations like land ownership, pension eligibility, medical

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Speaker 2: Right. Dual citizenship can be two things, correct me if

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Speaker 2: And so the trauma that's come out of this is

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Speaker 7: Well it becomes effective on the twenty fifth, fifth of February,

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Marcus, appreciate you TI very much. If you

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Speaker 2: green fields for bowling or croquet. The landscape gardens looking

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Speaker 2: particularly stunning this time of year, so there's plenty of

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Speaker 2: opportunity to get out and about with others. So to

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Speaker 2: find out more about this, r Veda and book a

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Speaker 2: tour of any one of their thirty four that's thirty

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Speaker 2: four r Vida living well communities throughout the country. Here's

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Speaker 2: where you go. Are Veda dot co dot nz You

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Speaker 2: got it, r Veda dot co dot nzski. And the

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Speaker 2: reason we did that it was just in the last

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Speaker 2: I was going to ignore the story because the story

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Speaker 2: didn't seem that big a deal to me. It was

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Speaker 2: a change of rules. And you have photocopy a few things,

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Speaker 2: send them off to Britain and the next thing you travel,

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Speaker 2: you turn up with the British passport. But it took

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Speaker 2: on a life of its own. And the number of

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Speaker 2: people I talked to who had a relative who did this,

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Speaker 2: who might do that or could be caught up in here?

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Speaker 2: And what if it was a father, and then it

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Speaker 2: was a mother, and then it was before nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 2: and then it was after nineteen eighty three, and then

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Speaker 2: the travel agent said, well, we don't know because the

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Speaker 2: traveler and so it went and it was bigger than

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Speaker 2: being her. It's a very good example of urban myth

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Speaker 2: and how something small and relatively common sense turns into

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Speaker 2: something way bigger than it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Six forty five International correspondence with ends Inn Eye Insurance

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Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Tethroine Field, Greetings to you. Greetings to you too, mister Rulsell.

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Speaker 2: I quite like the cut of his jib. Is he

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Speaker 2: well regarded in his new role as NATO Secretary.

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Speaker 12: A lot of suspicion about him, really, Mike. You know,

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Speaker 12: let's not forget how he was not so long ago

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Speaker 12: called US President Donald Trump Daddy in various myths. So

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Speaker 12: that is suspicion. I think a lot of that suspicion

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Speaker 12: came to the forefront just a couple of hours ago.

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Speaker 12: He's been having a meeting at the European Parliament with parliamentarians.

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Speaker 12: They specifically want to know what was the agreement he

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Speaker 12: made with Donald Trump last week at Davos that really

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Speaker 12: caused Trumps, as we think we saw, to pull back

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Speaker 12: from all those threats he made against Greenland. Well, he

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Speaker 12: didn't tell anybody what he said. He kept it very

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Speaker 12: much close to his chest. But what he did say,

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Speaker 12: and I think this probably stunned European parliamentarian's lot was

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Speaker 12: he said, and I'm quoting here.

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Speaker 9: If anyone here.

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Speaker 12: Thinks the European Union or Europe can defend itself without

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Speaker 12: the US, keep on dreaming. So he's made it pretty

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Speaker 12: clear that it might be nice to think that you

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Speaker 12: can have US without NATO, but he said, we can't

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Speaker 12: do it. And if you're complaining about five percent costs

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Speaker 12: for defense, he said, if the US moves out of NATO,

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Speaker 12: you're going to be looking at ten percent, and you're

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Speaker 12: also going to lose the guarantee of the US nuclear umbrella.

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Speaker 2: But US is not moving out of Atlanta. I think

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Speaker 2: we learned that off for Greenland. Now that Greenland isn't

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Speaker 2: where it was this time last week, is the war

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Speaker 2: back or not?

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Speaker 12: Well, everyone's now back talking about Ukraine. Ukraine was what

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Speaker 12: was meant to be on the agenda last week at DeVos.

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Speaker 12: So he was now picking up the pieces there. There's

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Speaker 12: bits and pieces going on, but no final indication that

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Speaker 12: there's going to be Putin's going to say, okay, that said,

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Speaker 12: I'm going to go home. The main thing is that

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Speaker 12: we've had over the last couple of days, you've had

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Speaker 12: two days of those trilateral talks in Abu.

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Speaker 2: Dhabi, very important, US, Ukraine, Russia.

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Speaker 12: They didn't really go anyway, but the fact they lasted

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Speaker 12: two days is being seen as constructive. Even though the

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Speaker 12: Krimlin has said that there are still those famous territorial

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Speaker 12: issues to be decided on, but they've managed to get

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Speaker 12: since then, the Europeans and the Americans have managed to

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Speaker 12: get the security guarantees there that would be put in

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Speaker 12: place when the war comes to an end. So that

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Speaker 12: was quite important because it includes a lot of the

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Speaker 12: high tech mechanisms that the US are going to bring

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Speaker 12: to monitor a ceasefire, and of course that multinational force

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Speaker 12: that France and the UK would put in. So you're

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Speaker 12: a lot going on. And also the other key point

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Speaker 12: is those trilateral talks will recommence in the first of February.

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Speaker 2: Yes, do we read much into that? You bullish about them?

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Speaker 13: Well, we're not really.

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Speaker 12: Because at the end of the day they're talking about

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Speaker 12: two different things. You know, Russia is still saying we've

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Speaker 12: got to talk about territory and Ukraine is saying you've

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Speaker 12: got to leave.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the company that makes Macron's

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Speaker 2: glasses by the way, something real.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, they have had an absolute flood of orders

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Speaker 12: ever since. The President of the Republic glasses to cover

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Speaker 12: up that really ghastly eye condition.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen his eye condition? Is it ghastly? I

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Speaker 2: had one last year, ye.

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Speaker 12: A week before he went to Davos, and that week

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Speaker 12: before he went to talk to the troops his annual

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Speaker 12: New Year methods to the troops in the south of France,

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Speaker 12: and you could see that he'd had your birth blood vessel.

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Speaker 12: Have he apologized to them? I know it looks awful

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Speaker 12: and it feels really bad.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. I had one last year and I turned

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Speaker 2: up to I didn't wear glasses doing this job, Catherine.

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Speaker 2: I just turned up. I carried on. Well, he did

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Speaker 2: the job.

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Speaker 12: And listen everyone's talking. It's been great for the company's

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Speaker 12: true French company. And apparently go figure this he paid

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Speaker 12: for them himself. He didn't put it on expenses.

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Speaker 2: No good on him. This under fifteen, the social media

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Speaker 2: band which Australia has led the world on. I think

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Speaker 2: UK is looking at something similar. Is this for real?

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Speaker 2: This is going to pass? And is it affective?

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Speaker 12: Do we know you'd well it looks as it will

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Speaker 12: pass the debating in Parliament as we speak. It's on

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Speaker 12: a fast track procedure, so they could well have the

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Speaker 12: vote within the next hour. What we don't know is

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Speaker 12: specifically is which sites will be affected.

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Speaker 2: It will then be up to the media regulator.

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Speaker 12: To say, we're assuming it's going to have snapchat TikTok

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Speaker 12: those sorts of ones, and then there's going to be

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Speaker 12: another level, which are ones that need parental consent so

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Speaker 12: they're the less harmful ones. Again, big question is how

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Speaker 12: do you verify age?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 12: You put up a picture and then they leave it

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Speaker 12: to the algorithm to decide if you're aged fifteen or over.

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Speaker 2: Hey have you got a good seat at hotkit A

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Speaker 2: week this week?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well I'm nowhere net the Beckhams David Beckham and

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Speaker 12: Spice call Ripe couple of hours, no and a it's

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Speaker 12: two week this week. One of the things they're doing

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Speaker 12: for people like me who didn't make it into the

565
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Speaker 12: ultra select circle. They've got cinemas across Paris where you

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Speaker 12: can go and it will be live screen streamed on

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Speaker 12: the big screen, so it's always like being there.

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Speaker 2: All right, do you have a good time, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Catherine Field. The only other

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Speaker 2: thing I can tell you out of France this morning

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Speaker 2: is Thomas Cavill, who is French. He is a yachtsman

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Speaker 2: with six men on his boat, which is thirty two

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Speaker 2: meters long, in a thing called Sdibo Altum three. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: won the Jewels Vern. The more important thing about that

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Speaker 2: is he's set a new world record for sailing around

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Speaker 2: the world. He's done it in forty days. Nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The mic Husking breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities, New togs

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Speaker 1: Head be all.

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Speaker 2: The quick Things, TikTok, the joint venture between the Chinese

580
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Speaker 2: or Bite dance in the US that happened over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Goy called ad Impress a joint benup. You know they

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Speaker 2: were going to ban it unless they did they got

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Speaker 2: a bloke running. It seems to be a non story now. Also,

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Speaker 2: the courts have not gone well for Trump his ev

585
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Speaker 2: charger program that he suspended. US District Judge Tanner Line

586
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Speaker 2: of Seattle has stepped in and said, we'll need to

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Speaker 2: have a think about that, thank you very much. And

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Speaker 2: I haven't had time to get to burn and we

589
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Speaker 2: will talk to Rod about it. But if you're not

590
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Speaker 2: following this Andy Burnham, mayor of Manchester. Guy who's going

591
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Speaker 2: to replace Key is Starmer Starma whetting his pants in fright.

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Speaker 2: Guy in Manchester quits So told you this before we

593
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Speaker 2: went away for the weekend. Guy in Manchester quits MP.

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Speaker 2: There's a by election. Andy says, I'll stand for that,

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Speaker 2: and of course if he did, he'd win magically. A

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Speaker 2: committee over the weekend desides Andy can't stand. Why would

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Speaker 2: that be? Well, Starmer says it's because of Andy stood.

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Speaker 2: That would mean there's a mayoral election. We can't afford

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Speaker 2: one of those. For goodness sake. Now, if you believe that,

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Speaker 2: you believe anything. But anyway, So that's going on. So

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Speaker 2: for all of the trouble you think about Trump and

602
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Speaker 2: his power madness, Starma is not a lot better five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Polly Is and the Ouse. It's the fizz with business

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Speaker 1: tiber take your business productivity to the next level, right

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Speaker 1: high rocks.

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Speaker 2: If you're not immersed in the fitness world, that's the

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Speaker 2: new go to the so hot right now. Exercise regimes

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Speaker 2: taken over from cross crossfits, dying a death there Overall

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Speaker 2: cub memberships down thirty two percent on twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: that was last year. So High Rocks is a workout

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Speaker 2: that combines basically eight k's of running with eight different

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Speaker 2: workout stations in the middle of it all. So this

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Speaker 2: year about one point three million are expected to compete

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Speaker 2: in an event somewhere in the world. Latest independent survey

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Speaker 2: shows gen Z leading the way they're spending money on fitness.

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Speaker 2: That's a priority for them. A third are planning to

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Speaker 2: spend more on fitness this year. Two thirds say they

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Speaker 2: would rather spend money on gym clothes new gym clothes

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Speaker 2: than a date. We've also got the marracations, which is

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Speaker 2: a marathon vacation. We got the High Rocks holidays. Travel

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Speaker 2: companies are offering High Rox holidays. Biggest travelers for a

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Speaker 2: High Rocks come from the UK and a big part

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Speaker 2: of that is all the local competitions sell out so

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Speaker 2: fast You've got to go overseas to go to a

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Speaker 2: High Rocks event. This is incredible, isn't it. So the

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Speaker 2: traditional CrossFit providers, which are people like HWPO Training and

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Speaker 2: Proven which is PrV and Fitness and all those sort

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Speaker 2: of people they've announce that they're starting partnerships and programs

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Speaker 2: for high Rocks as well. So high Rocks is a thing.

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Speaker 2: But eight k's with eight things to do during the

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Speaker 2: eight case, there's.

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Speaker 9: Also that run.

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Speaker 10: You have to get yourself a sled.

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Speaker 1: One of the activities seems to be a sled push.

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Speaker 2: No, I think they provide you with the sled wind.

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Speaker 2: Does it run around the park thing? You're doing that

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Speaker 2: run around the park thing? You gather around a park.

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Speaker 2: It's an app and you go to the park and

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Speaker 2: you just sort of everyone to run park on. You

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Speaker 2: just turn around, run around a park. And I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: if you want to run around the park, why don't

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Speaker 2: you just go to your park and run around it.

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Speaker 2: Why do you need an app to tell you what

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Speaker 2: to do?

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Speaker 10: Some people like to hang out with other people. I

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Speaker 10: know it's weird, but that's some people for it.

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Speaker 2: How long has it been going on?

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Right this retail committee thing will look at this next.

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Speaker 1: Asking the questions. Others won't to the mic asking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the Defender embraced the impossible news togs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be seven. So do we have trouble at the

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Speaker 2: Ministerial Advisory Group on Retail Crime. Three of the five

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Speaker 2: members have quite recently at least one because you didn't

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Speaker 2: get on with the chair Paul Goldsmith, as Justice Minister

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Speaker 2: and in chargeable of this, he is with us, Paul morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Now we've got an issue here or not.

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Speaker 2: No total beat up.

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Speaker 14: Two of the five have just been promoted into hire

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Speaker 14: jobs and they've had to do other things. And yes

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Speaker 14: you've got one who hasn't been happy. But I think

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Speaker 14: the group has been very productive. They come up with

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Speaker 14: ideas that about bringing back some order onto our streets.

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Speaker 14: They've come up with the ideas in relation to citizens

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Speaker 14: arrest powers, shoplifting, infringement regimes and strengthening trespass laws.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy with what they've done and I'm good keen

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Speaker 2: to get some more out of it. So this is

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Speaker 2: just a personality thing with Carol and young basically, well.

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Speaker 14: Look I don't know what her motivation is, but look,

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Speaker 14: look Sonny.

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Speaker 1: Sonny is full on.

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Speaker 14: He's an interesting character, but he is absolutely fierce in

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Speaker 14: defending the victims of crime, particularly mum and dad shop

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Speaker 14: owners who have been facing violent crime for a long

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Speaker 14: period of time. And I brought him in precisely to

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Speaker 14: be uncomfortable, because we'd had six years under labor of

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Speaker 14: kind of excuses for crime, focus on the perpetrator, wasn't

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Speaker 14: your faulter with society's fault, all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 14: And I wanted somebody who was going to come and

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Speaker 14: fight hard for those people who are out there trying

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Speaker 14: to make a living and being attacked and beaten up,

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Speaker 14: smashed over and nobody caring about them. And that's what

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Speaker 14: he's done, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Very pleased that he has. I was told that Wally

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Speaker 2: homerhr Cas and Rich those sort of people were put

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Speaker 2: forward as people in the know and would be effective,

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Speaker 2: and you rejected them in favor of the two that

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Speaker 2: you mentioned that have gone on to hire jobs. Do

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Speaker 2: you think you got the wrong people in the wrong place.

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 14: No, I think they've been going well for forteen months.

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Speaker 14: I mean, as you're sort of conscious, people move on,

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Speaker 14: they do different things, and so we'll have to decide.

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Speaker 14: The advisory group was supposed to wind up in a

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Speaker 14: few months time. I was going to take stock at

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Speaker 14: the moment and we'll see what you're doing well.

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Speaker 2: It was that was my That was my concluding question,

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Speaker 2: why are we still I mean, come May, it's two years.

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Speaker 2: Retail crime is not the most complex thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: Haven't they done their job? Well, they nearly have.

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Speaker 14: I mean they've got some still got some ideas that

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Speaker 14: they're looking at around audio visual sort of surveillance techniques

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Speaker 14: and things, which has been a bit of a debate

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Speaker 14: in the privacy space. And I want some advice from

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Speaker 14: them on that. But they're nearly done their business. So yeah,

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Speaker 14: we'll take stock over the next couple of months.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate time. Paul Goldsmith, who as the Justice Minister, I

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Speaker 2: think we got that sorted. Nyement, it's past seven, Moski.

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Speaker 2: You report this morning highlights potential savings of shifting to

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Speaker 2: more off peak electricity use. We could save three billion,

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Speaker 2: twenty five percent of peak demand could be moved, they claim,

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Speaker 2: using existing tech without changing how we live all work

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Speaker 2: currently the network's built for short bursts of course of

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Speaker 2: high demand. Anyway. Marcus Plentier is the chief executive at

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Speaker 2: the EECA and is with us. Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: This existing tech you speak of to shift all this power, where.

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Speaker 11: Is it and what is it?

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Speaker 15: It is basically smart controllers. So there are things that

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Speaker 15: you can put on hot water cylinders. There's a bunch

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Speaker 15: of kit you can put for industry and businesses. It

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Speaker 15: just helps people shift when they use energy.

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Speaker 2: As one of the questions I was going to ask,

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Speaker 2: how much of this is for domestic versus commercial? Is

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Speaker 2: this sort of stuff available to commercial therefore could ship

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Speaker 2: more load?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it is available and it's being used now at

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Speaker 15: the industrial scale. But this is all about scaling it

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Speaker 15: up for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Right, Thank you see, because in reading your press release

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Speaker 2: it wasn't clear to me what literally is available and

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Speaker 2: where you come up with the number of three billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: because three billions a lot of money.

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Speaker 15: There's a lot of money, and it is it's real,

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Speaker 15: I think. To be more specific, we're thinking about four industrials.

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Speaker 15: It's things like food processing in the Bay of Plenty,

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Speaker 15: irrigation loads farming and Canterbury, Waikato forestry and Bay of

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Speaker 15: Manawatu also Bay a Plenty offices in homes. It's really

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Speaker 15: the hot water cylinders. And then the three billion comes

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Speaker 15: from the value of that shift didn't peak, so you've

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Speaker 15: got one point eight gigawatts of demand and that roughly

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Speaker 15: translates to using transpowers numbers three billion.

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Speaker 2: Why don't people do it?

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Speaker 11: Then?

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Speaker 2: If it's so easy and the technologies there, why don't

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Speaker 2: they do it?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, the physics is easy, the contracting is a little

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Speaker 15: bit more complicated, is what I read this morning, And

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Speaker 15: I think that's about right. So you've got to get

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Speaker 15: the right incentives to get people to make it easy

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Speaker 15: for them.

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Speaker 2: Away, I'm reguizing a field and all I have to

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Speaker 2: do is plug something in. Why aren't I doing that?

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Speaker 2: Because it makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it does make perfect sense. The technology is new,

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Speaker 15: at least this type of dynamic control is new, so

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Speaker 15: this is cutting edge where we are with the Australians

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Speaker 15: and the Europeans and the AMA bricks on testing it

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Speaker 15: and rolling it out, and so we're seeing we are

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Speaker 15: basically the answer is because.

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Speaker 2: It's new, right, do we need then financial incentives? Might

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Speaker 2: it just be that eventually once it's less new, people go,

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Speaker 2: this makes sense, I'll do it myself. Otherwise, you know,

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Speaker 2: sucked in?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you need.

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Speaker 15: I think you need to be able to see the

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Speaker 15: money on the table to pick it up. And this

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Speaker 15: is what this report is hoping to do is to

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Speaker 15: really highlight that opportunity, and you need to have the

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Speaker 15: incentives rate in terms of I think if people are

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Speaker 15: offering flexibility for their home, they should be rewarded for it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Marcus, appreciate it. Marcus Pelliner, who's with

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Speaker 2: the Energy Efficiency and Conservation Authority. I look them up

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Speaker 2: this morning because I've forgotten who they were. They've been

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Speaker 2: around since nineteen ninety two, which is almost as long

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Speaker 2: as I've been around. Thirteen minutes past seven. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of ankst about the trees cut down on the mount,

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Speaker 2: yet the photo show there are still plenty of trees.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not getting into this, but I will say this,

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Speaker 2: and it's worth you doing. Adam Pas has done a

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Speaker 2: piece in the Herell this morning. I think he's overreached,

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Speaker 2: but he seems to leave the mount the response to

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Speaker 2: Luckson's leadership credentials and whether or not he's going to

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Speaker 2: win the election. Now, I might be drawing too long

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Speaker 2: a bow from that particular article, but nevertheless, he's placing

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of weight as Adam on how Luxon

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Speaker 2: is responding to this thing, and I just cannot, for

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Speaker 2: the life of me see how he will be defined

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Speaker 2: or otherwise by what's going on. There's a package coming.

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Speaker 2: I think today will check with Luxon shortly what's been

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Speaker 2: missed yet again by the media. And this is not

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Speaker 2: a criticism, and Adam can write whatever he wants and

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Speaker 2: read the piece and see what you think. What was

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Speaker 2: missed yesterday was Hipkins. Who if you're applying the same

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Speaker 2: blowtorch to Luxon and Hipkins together equally, you would have

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Speaker 2: said of Hipkin, surely that him yesterday whining on about

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Speaker 2: the six billion dollars in the Climate Change Fund while

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Speaker 2: people have died somehow, inferring that if you'd spent money

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Speaker 2: on climate change, it wouldn't have rained the way it

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Speaker 2: did at the Mount is the longest bow in the

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Speaker 2: history of long bows. And it was an idiotic thing

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Speaker 2: to say and completely misread the room, the mood and

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Speaker 2: the moment. But maybe that's just me. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Like asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister with us after seven thirty sixteen past seven

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Speaker 2: right got the outline of the rugby Union's planned to

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Speaker 2: go and find a new all Blake's coach, so we

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Speaker 2: will have a five person panel. The successful applicant will

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Speaker 2: have test level coaching experience, be in New Zealander and

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Speaker 2: will be appointed head coach only now Steve Lancaster is

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Speaker 2: the interim CEO of the Union and is with us.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you, morning Mike, Nice to see you. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: need to be this convoluted.

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Speaker 16: Well, we actually think we set out a very clear

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Speaker 16: and simple process, very simple criteria for the candidate and

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Speaker 16: a very straightforward process to move to an appointment.

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Speaker 2: What happened to the just if you're interested, give us

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Speaker 2: a call.

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Speaker 16: Well, we certainly open to calls from anyone that's interested,

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Speaker 16: but we've been very clear around the minimum criteria for

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Speaker 16: someone to be appointed into the role, and to give

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Speaker 16: you some some rationale for that way through the World

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Speaker 16: Cup cycle, we're two years out from the next World Cup.

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Speaker 16: We simply don't have time for someone to find their

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Speaker 16: feet at this level. So we are looking for someone

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Speaker 16: that can come in and hit the ground round.

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Speaker 2: Do you have someone in mind and if not, why not?

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Speaker 16: Because well, David Cook was very clear at the time

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Speaker 16: of announcing that would be convincing this that we want

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Speaker 16: to cast it as wide as possible. We've we've refined

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Speaker 16: the list of candidates by virtue of the criteria. But

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Speaker 16: it's an open process.

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Speaker 2: So in putting that criteria out, you've not honed it

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Speaker 2: with a view to chasing down somebody.

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Speaker 16: No, there is no.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, you don't sit at the office beer on Friday

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Speaker 2: and you go tell you what, if he was available,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't he be cool? You've never done that.

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Speaker 16: Every office does that on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: The house is no different. The coach. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what to get more exercised about the New Zealander thing.

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Speaker 2: I get the level. What you seem to be saying

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Speaker 2: is you can't be an assistant coach or an up

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Speaker 2: and comer or a star of the future to be

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Speaker 2: an all black coach. You've got to do that somewhere

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Speaker 2: else before we'll pick you. Is that fair? At this

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Speaker 2: point in time?

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Speaker 16: We think it's appropriate. Right, this is and this is

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Speaker 16: a very much a point in time criteria, given where

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Speaker 16: we're at in the cycle and the overall context.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the inability to bring your team. So I follow

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Speaker 2: the NFL. What they do. The first thing they do

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Speaker 2: is they hire the coach. The coach goes, I've got

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Speaker 2: him and him why not? Why can't we do that?

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Speaker 16: Again, this is contextual, right, we're in the middle of

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Speaker 16: a cycle. We've got an existed group. They're very capable,

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Speaker 16: very experienced, and so we've been clear right now that

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Speaker 16: we are not asking people to bring a coaching group

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Speaker 16: with them. We want them to come in and then

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Speaker 16: we'll make decisions once you're a point.

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Speaker 2: But what if the fit's not right? What if the

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Speaker 2: coach is brilliant but he doesn't want them, and that's

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Speaker 2: the difference in it.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, clearly they will have a say in that. But again,

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Speaker 16: what we're asking them to do is come and apply

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Speaker 16: for the role of head coach and then we'll have

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Speaker 16: those conversations rather than expect them to have all.

870
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: But you don't think you're limiting yourself on that scenes, Okay,

871
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: the New Zealand thing. Do you think there will ever

872
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: be a day where we just go whoever's good's good?

873
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 16: I would never say never on that, right, It's dangerous

874
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 16: to speculate into the future, and as you've just said,

875
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 16: we don't want to cut off options in the future.

876
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 16: So for now we believe that we've got it right.

877
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 16: We're lucky in New Zealand. We've got a lot of

878
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 16: New Zealand coaches that do have international experience as head coaches,

879
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 16: and so we don't believe we need to go outside

880
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 16: of that presently, but I'd never say never in the future.

881
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: And what about your job? When does that get sorted out?

882
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: I'm in it now, No, no interim. Are you going

883
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: to be permanent?

884
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 16: Look, that's a separate process, the border leading that, so

885
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 16: it's not for me to comment.

886
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but when will that be sorted out? Timeline? And

887
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: when will the coach job be sorted out?

888
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 9: Yeah?

889
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 16: Well, I guess in both cases there's no definitive timeline,

890
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 16: and that's just due to the nature of these processes.

891
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 16: So both processes are running concurrently and both are underway

892
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 16: and tracking well.

893
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: Busy time, good to see. Appreciate it very much. Steve Lancaster,

894
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: the interim CEO of the Rugby Union. Twenty past seven.

895
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896
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897
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Speaker 2: Now, if you're a bid manager right responding to those

898
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899
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Speaker 2: beat the competitors. Just preparing the old ara of peer

900
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901
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Speaker 2: They don't like writing anyway, they don't write particularly well.

902
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Speaker 2: And then you got to find the time to respond.

903
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904
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905
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Speaker 2: while using your corporate language of course, hand style and

906
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907
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918
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919
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: and product of it pasking and quite possibly your hairline

920
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: seven twenty four are qudos to Philip Mills, he of

921
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Jim Empire. As it turns out, the election year's star

922
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: turn in the donation department now is money for the

923
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: Top Party is the first large declared donation. If you

924
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: haven't followed this now, I like it for a couple

925
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: of reasons. Business owners and leaders too often display a

926
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: fear when it comes to views and support and commetary

927
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I learned this sadly during COVID. The anger

928
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: privately never matched the anger publicly from some of the

929
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: nation's biggest names and businesses because they feared retribution from

930
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: the government of the day. Mills, like any owner, especially

931
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: in this day and age, risks back from the public

932
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Speaker 2: that he wants to give him money to turn up

933
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: at his place to pump iron. It's way easier to

934
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: keep your head down. So good on him. Sadly he

935
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: has wasted his money, But that, I suppose is the

936
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: beauty of election year and democracy were all free to

937
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: do the same. Top will not make it the way

938
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: that Mills thinks they will. Personally, I kind of hope

939
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. The ho MMP thing was about greater representation

940
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: and if Top cracked it. I'd be pleased to see

941
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: another player. Sadly it is not to be, because Top

942
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: are two nuanced. There is no obvious gap to fill.

943
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: They are the middle of the road music radio station

944
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: looking to find a spot between the hits coast and

945
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: the breeze. Except unlike radio, where entry is free, in

946
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: politics you need five percent, and five percent is actually

947
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: a lot. The Gareth Morgan era, if you remember it,

948
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: as I've seen a number of times before, was their opening.

949
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: The easier route is an electorate, of course, with plenty

950
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: of choice already. You get a high profile player like

951
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: Morgan in an electorate split that vote, win the seat

952
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: and the coattail at about two percent, might in fact

953
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: give you two MPs, not one. They've got no Morgan's

954
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: even rape Mangi, who ran in christ Yuch last time,

955
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: had some profile. He didn't do it. So as we

956
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: sit here this morning, dollars to doughnuts, you can't even

957
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: name the leader. Bet you can't name the leader or

958
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: any member of the party. And as for the policies,

959
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: they are a mix of the obscure. In other words,

960
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: a lot of what they think is already in the parliament.

961
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: If that's what you want. So in simple terms, our

962
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: parliament's full six apparently rightly wrongly's all we want. Philip

963
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: has fifty grand that says I'm wrong. But of all

964
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Speaker 2: the predictions I will make this election year, this is

965
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: right up there on the confidence scale.

966
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Husking.

967
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of sport, I mean, I look personally, I couldn't

968
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: let them pick an all blacks coach. I don't care

969
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: how they go about it. But this business of not

970
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: being able to pick your team, not the players, but

971
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: your colonels and your commanders, I think that's a mistaken

972
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: is limiting because I think most people at the top

973
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: of the game will go well if I come so

974
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: to see him. There's a bit of that about it,

975
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: So I don't know that they're down the right track,

976
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: but be that as it may. The other sad thing

977
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: around over the weekend, unfortunately, and this was always going

978
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: to be the case, is the Netball Not only do

979
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: Netball not have a CEO at the moment because the

980
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: previous one quipped for obvious reasons, which by the way,

981
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: I think it was this almost certainly the Herald and

982
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: I think Radio and New Zealand had both done very good.

983
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: Li lengthy pieces on the problems of administration at top

984
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: level sport in this country. Both are well worth reading.

985
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: Look them up anyway, Back to the netball because the

986
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: broadcast rights are a cluster TV ins. It's got them,

987
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: and I think, if I'm right, the TV insaid aren't

988
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: even paying any money, and if they are, it's next

989
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: to nothing. The netball player are getting a twenty percent

990
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: pay cut on top of what was already a pretty

991
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: meager sort of pay package of about anywhere from twenty

992
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: to forty grand. So I don't know how they dig

993
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: themselves out of that particular hole. Maybe I'll ask the

994
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: PM tough on.

995
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: Power sharp on inside on my casting Breakfast with Bailey's

996
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three

997
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: use Togsdad b.

998
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: Looking forward to the catch up with Joel Shadbolt out

999
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: of Lab to eight o'class this morning. Meantime, a slight

1000
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: shot reached the sum of the country anyway because of

1001
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: the anniversary day for a chunk of the North Island

1002
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: yesterday to the Ploman, Sir Cristal Luxing is with us

1003
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: this Tuesday morning. Good morning, Good morning, Mike. When do

1004
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: we we'll get straight to the mount when we are

1005
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: we expecting some sort of hackuld you assistance from the government,

1006
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: the people who are you know, the cafes that can't open,

1007
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: so on and so forth, the areas of the country

1008
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: that are cut off. Are we expecting something from you

1009
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: guys today.

1010
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 17: Yes, We're going to have a cabinet meeting this morning

1011
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 17: and at that meeting we'll discuss about the funding and

1012
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 17: support that we need immediately to get flowing and out

1013
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 17: the door. Essentially what's happened through the course of mid

1014
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 17: to late you know, over the weekend, there's really the

1015
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 17: focus has been on the response and now it moves

1016
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 17: to the recovery and it's part of that. The mereors

1017
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 17: that we've all met worth have sort of got goods

1018
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 17: are doing the assessment of actually what's needed in some ways.

1019
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 17: You know, there's damage everywhere, but there's actually it's localized

1020
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 17: to some really serious and deep damage in spaces, and

1021
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 17: each region is actually slightly different. So if you look

1022
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 17: at State Highway thirty five, there's some really massive challenges

1023
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 17: there and certainly roading challenges getting in and out of Gisbon.

1024
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 17: If you go up to Tim's Crimental similar you know,

1025
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 17: rain road network rating resilience. But obviously Tardano is a

1026
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 17: different challenge with Mount Monganoui there as well, So we'll

1027
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 17: look at all of those things. It will be a

1028
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Speaker 17: continually evolving piece as well, where there we need to

1029
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 17: be more and more money supporting it. But initially we'll

1030
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Speaker 17: have a plan about what we want to do in

1031
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Speaker 17: the short term.

1032
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Roughly are we dealing with tens of millions, hundreds of millions.

1033
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 17: There's some very big roading projects, you know that we'll

1034
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 17: need to work through how we digest that. You know,

1035
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 17: there will be one hundreds I suspect, but the rest

1036
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 17: of it, you know, in some ways, Mike, you know,

1037
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 17: it hit on coastal areas and it hit some very

1038
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 17: It actually hammered some small communities and made them very

1039
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 17: isolated from other parts and main centers. And you know,

1040
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 17: some of them, if I go up north, there's a

1041
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 17: slip in a bridge that really if we repair those,

1042
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 17: that would make a hell of a difference.

1043
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: There.

1044
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 17: There's a need for some transitional housing support in some

1045
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 17: of these remote communities, particularly in State Highway thirty five,

1046
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 17: particularly also in Northland as well. You know, those are

1047
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 17: quite manageable expenses, but at the end of the day,

1048
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 17: you know, we will spend what we need to spend,

1049
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 17: and we'll work with the councils to do that. But

1050
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 17: it's we're building a good picture of what's needed.

1051
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: Good as regards the mount, the cafes, the businesses, et cetera.

1052
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: Is insurance. Is insurance expected to be held by these

1053
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: businesses or is this on the government? I'm not sure.

1054
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 17: It's something we're going to discuss at cabinet today as

1055
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 17: to where there's any support that we can offer there

1056
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 17: as well. Again, it's quite a localized set. I was

1057
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 17: aware of a I think a four square up on

1058
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 17: State Highway thirty five frankly that had also done some

1059
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 17: incredible work but was now quite isolated and was actually

1060
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 17: gone over and above helping people on the ground in

1061
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 17: the community as well.

1062
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll look at that.

1063
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 17: But it's not like a mass COVID period where you know,

1064
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 17: there's it's everybody and it's for a long period of time.

1065
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 17: It's very localized and so you know, we can do

1066
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 17: very targeted support and we'll discuss that in cabinet today

1067
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 17: as well.

1068
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: We're all the question I talked to Mark about it

1069
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: briefly last week. I think it's Chris Pinky's doing it

1070
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: that surely we're at the point now there are bits

1071
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: of New Zealand where you've got to ask some very serious,

1072
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: long term, big picture questions, don't you.

1073
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 17: Well, one of the things we're doing is going to

1074
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 17: generate a flood plan by the end of the year,

1075
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 17: and I think that will be very helpful for New

1076
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 17: Zealanders and councils and local government authorities to sort of

1077
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 17: be really clear about where the risk actually sits across

1078
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 17: the whole of the country.

1079
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 9: We do need.

1080
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Speaker 17: It's interesting we did State Highway twenty five on the

1081
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Speaker 17: Coromandal that held up really well.

1082
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Speaker 2: We're building a hawks By Expressway.

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Speaker 17: It's twice as resilient to flood damage as what the

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Speaker 17: previous road was. So, you know, we as we do

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Speaker 17: upgrade our network, it's also making sure we do quality

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Speaker 17: work that actually you know, as more resilient as we

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Speaker 17: go forward. But you're right, we've got a country the

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Speaker 17: size of Great Britain Japan. We've got five million people

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Speaker 17: on it. We've got lots of isolated communities and you know,

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Speaker 17: it's certainly challenging digesting you know, the investment we need

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Speaker 17: in the road in network. But you know, we know

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Speaker 17: there are major pieces that we do need to upgrade

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Speaker 17: in order to support towns in the right way.

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Speaker 2: Trump's border piece, how seriously are you considering this?

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Speaker 17: Look, we we have to digest quite a bit there.

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Speaker 17: It might take us a little bit, but you know,

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Speaker 17: he's I received a letter, it came with a charter.

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Speaker 17: We need to understand exactly what's in that charter. I

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Speaker 17: think we need to think through, you know, what's the

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Speaker 17: incremental value add we would bring to something like that.

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Speaker 17: You know, we've had a lot of focus, as you know,

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Speaker 17: in the last two years on the end of Pacific

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Speaker 17: region for ourselves. So that's where our energies have been

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Speaker 17: going into. And so we need to have a decent,

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Speaker 17: good conversation and consideration of it all, which we'll do

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Speaker 17: in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 2: I read an interesting piece the other day about the

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Speaker 2: Americans increasingly concerned about the Chinese and they're looking to

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Speaker 2: redo their deals with paties like the marshals, etc. And

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Speaker 2: so they want to be more active in this region.

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Speaker 2: Would it be who of us to be on the

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Speaker 2: right side of the Trump administration given the role of

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Speaker 2: the Chinese and the Pacific.

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Speaker 17: Well, we actually, as our conversations with the Americans has

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Speaker 17: been that we want you to stay really engaged in

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Speaker 17: the Pacific. You know, you are a Pacific nation yourselves,

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Speaker 17: and you know, we think it's a good thing having

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Speaker 17: an American presence across the region. And obviously they have

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Speaker 17: you anything about Micronesia and Pillower and places like that,

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Speaker 17: where they have bases and where they have young communities

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Speaker 17: and territories. Essentially, we think it's a good thing if

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Speaker 17: they can stay engaged in the Pacific as well. But

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Speaker 17: we also acknowledge that we also have to step up,

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Speaker 17: and that's what you've seen us been doing even before

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Speaker 17: recent events. You know, we've said, look, the end of

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Speaker 17: Pacific's our future. It's where our security sits, it's where

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Speaker 17: our economic prosperity sits. We need to deepen the relationships

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Speaker 17: with everybody. That's why we've upgraded the comprehensive Tragic partnerships,

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Speaker 17: doing the FTAs, getting rid of about tariff barriers, all

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Speaker 17: of those common sense sort of things to make sure

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Speaker 17: we're more relevant and engage in the region.

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Speaker 2: What you'll read on the board is the board to

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Speaker 2: replace the UN Ultimately or is it something completely separate.

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Speaker 17: Not sure, it's a little unclear just from you know,

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Speaker 17: first glance through it all. But we will go through

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Speaker 17: that in some detail and discuss that and what's your

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Speaker 17: gut as you sit here. Yeah, it's to be honest,

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Speaker 17: it's genuinely hard to work out.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 17: Originally it was pitched as a Gaza proposition. Now it

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Speaker 17: looks like it's been pitched with passing a time as

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Speaker 17: something more broader about, you know, picking up general with

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Speaker 17: conflicts all over the world. You know, So we just

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Speaker 17: need to understand exactly and there we need to be

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Speaker 17: some discourse. And I mentioned with the Americans around that.

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Speaker 2: The who comments from Peter's is that genuine or is

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Speaker 2: that election?

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Speaker 17: Well, from my point of view, it's pretty fair to

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Speaker 17: ask questions on the performance of global institutions. I think

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Speaker 17: many of them are not nearly as effective as they

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Speaker 17: should or can be. I just say on who they

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Speaker 17: play a key role actually and improving health outcomes cerdainly

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Speaker 17: around the world, but most importantly we see it quite

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Speaker 17: closely on the Pacific Islands. I think New Zealand continues

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Speaker 17: to benefit from being part of the World Health Organization,

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Speaker 17: doesn't preclude us from challenging them to be much more efficient,

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Speaker 17: more effective, more focused on what they're doing. We're our

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Speaker 17: spending with WHO from memories about I think it's about

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Speaker 17: one point two million this year. Sometimes it goes up

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Speaker 17: to four million. So but we do partner really well

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Speaker 17: with them in the Pacific region. If you think about

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Speaker 17: the measles outbreak where it got away on Samoa, who

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Speaker 17: came in after the event and really helped strengthen and

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Speaker 17: get a really good primary public health response to measles

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Speaker 17: outbreak which was incredibly damaging and some are at that time.

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Speaker 17: So I think it's a good you know, we want

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Speaker 17: to continue that association. We want to continue about membership there.

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Speaker 17: But we're quite as we are doing arrange across a

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Speaker 17: number of globe institutions saying hey, listen, these things. These

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Speaker 17: institutions have to evolve, they have to change, they have

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Speaker 17: to keep innovating, they have to be very focused, they

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Speaker 17: have to be effective and efficient.

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Speaker 2: This housing one twenty thing, when's it coming the change

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Speaker 2: very shortly, it'll be a matter of weeks.

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Speaker 17: We've been working our way through that and we'll also

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Speaker 17: you know, work that through with the council as well

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Speaker 17: at the same time, so that we can hopefully both

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Speaker 17: come out together with a solution.

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Speaker 2: How radical is the change? Is it off you'll thank

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Speaker 2: goodness for that? Or is it a nuanced approach?

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Speaker 17: No, I think people will be relieved that there's actually

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Speaker 17: some sensibility there. It's essentially, as we've talked before, it's

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Speaker 17: how much densification do you do in the CBD area

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Speaker 17: over transport hubs, what are you doing in Greenfield's developments?

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Speaker 17: And then you know, what does the balance look like

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Speaker 17: across this across the existing city in the suburbs.

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Speaker 2: But we'll have more to say about that very shortly. Okay,

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Speaker 2: explain this to me, Bremen RB. She says what she

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Speaker 2: said about the about Powe and so on. Is she

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Speaker 2: independent or not? No, she is independent and I respect

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Speaker 2: can't say whatever you want? Well she can, and well,

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Speaker 2: why are you telling her off? No, we're not.

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Speaker 17: We're just saying she she could have sought advice, should

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Speaker 17: have sought advice, I think, and certainly had a discussion

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Speaker 17: with a minute.

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Speaker 2: Well or not, she is and whatever the advice, she

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to take advice. She can do whatever she likes.

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Speaker 17: No, we just think it would have been good to

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Speaker 17: have take some advice, and if she got the advice,

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Speaker 17: it's her independent decision to determine what she wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: What advice would she have got it?

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Speaker 17: She should have engaged the Foreign Affairs and she could

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Speaker 17: have talked to the Minister of Foreign Minister of Finance

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Speaker 17: and given her heads up as to what was going

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Speaker 17: on there. But look, from my point of view, she's

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Speaker 17: completely free to do whatever she wanted to do around

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Speaker 17: that lead up.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit smudgye to me that she's either independent

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Speaker 2: she not. She needs to talk to that club, but she.

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Speaker 17: No, she's fully independent, and by their own admission, I

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Speaker 17: think it's been overblowing. All that she needed to do

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Speaker 17: was is have a quick chat with the minister, maybe

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Speaker 17: get some advice from Foreign Affairs. Wouldn't have been unwise,

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Speaker 17: But whatever that advice was, it was completely her decision.

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Speaker 2: To my rightly support that first prediction for election year

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Speaker 2: from you, please, does top make the Parliament or not?

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Speaker 17: Oh well they got new leadership, they send avenue focused

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Speaker 17: new energy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 17: To be honest, I think there's a lot of micro

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Speaker 17: parties out there at the moment that you know, we

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Speaker 17: don't know who they are and what they're really about,

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Speaker 17: and seen much of their propositionional manifesto.

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Speaker 2: All right, nice to talk to you, appreciate it. Christopher

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Speaker 2: Luckson Prime Minister for this Tuesday morning. He's back on Monday,

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Speaker 2: so many six days to wait. Fourteen to two.

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Speaker 12: At me.

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Speaker 2: Likes AND's correct. It's common courtesy that the governor should

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Speaker 2: have spoken to Winston Peters first, Mike Haustus spect Luckston

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Speaker 2: had some media training over the break he sounded more

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Speaker 2: direct and thank god he's dropped the giggles and foaux

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Speaker 2: matey mate traits. I'm glad you happy grunt. Maureen Pew

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Speaker 2: was the first. Last time we talked to Luckson a

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Speaker 2: week ago. He said he was expecting potentially didn't know,

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Speaker 2: but he was expecting some retirements before the end of

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Speaker 2: the year, and that may or may not lead to

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Speaker 2: some sort of reshuffle. So more in Pew's gone, remember

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Speaker 2: more in iffing useless Pew Simon Bridges anyway, she's she's going,

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Speaker 2: And Damian O'Connor, I mean, I didn't see this coming,

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Speaker 2: but he's moved to Dunedin, so he's obviously these days

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Speaker 2: he's a list MP. Was once upon a time relatively

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Speaker 2: famously the West Coast Tasman MP or as a West

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Speaker 2: Coast MP, and then got included into Tasman. So anyway

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Speaker 2: was that until he lost it? So now he's just

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Speaker 2: a list MP. But he's moved to Ineed. It's the

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Speaker 2: need in the new christ Church, just having been there

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Speaker 2: over summer. It's got a vibe about it, it's got

1250
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Speaker 2: a it's got to tell you what if you didn't

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Speaker 2: want to go to christ Urcher and you went to

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Speaker 2: christ churching not even not eveything that cracked up to me,

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Speaker 2: and next stop Dunedin. So I reckon anyway, he's not

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Speaker 2: announcing his retirement, he says, so he presumably is just

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Speaker 2: going he's going for the list.

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Speaker 10: I feel like you're kind of burying the lead on

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Speaker 10: the on this trend, like you sort of wandered down

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Speaker 10: to christ Church, have a lock and then all the

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Speaker 10: next thing you know, everybody's there. Well you pop up

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Speaker 10: in Dunedin and suddenly everybody wants to be in Dneda.

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Speaker 2: Well it's a bit early. I don't want to claim

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Speaker 2: that you know Dunedan's on because of me. But I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what I wouldn't be against moving to Dunedin,

1264
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Speaker 2: just saying. The other thing I read over the weekend

1265
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Speaker 2: which is interesting could be interesting, is of course all

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Speaker 2: the people who've left New Zealand speaking of the election,

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Speaker 2: and that is a record number of people who have

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Speaker 2: left New Zealand one hundred and forty three thousand between

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Speaker 2: twenty three and twenty five. It is just in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years since the last election. They of

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Speaker 2: course are eligible to vote, problem most don't. Historically it's

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Speaker 2: about ten percent of people who leave the country end

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Speaker 2: up voting. But because you've got so many more having

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Speaker 2: left the country, it might well be a factor as

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Speaker 2: we head towards November. So watch the Space eight to eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking, Breakfast with the Defender and news TOGSADB.

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Speaker 2: Mike, you'd hate Dunedin which is just a large greens campground.

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00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: Every nutter not in Wellington's in Dunedian's. But hush, isn't

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Speaker 2: it my birthday on Saturday? The best line from the

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Speaker 2: card or a card I got You are also as

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Speaker 2: sharp as attack. You have been blessed with such great

1282
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: witty humor that very few people get. It amazes me

1283
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: you've survived this long without getting canceled, family member.

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Speaker 10: I wasn't just something printed in a card.

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Speaker 2: Now it was written. Now they thought about it. Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Where's our twenty twenty six Car Watts news segment. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not a bad point. Han't raised anything to do

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Speaker 2: with cars and year. What I know I can tell

1289
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: you over the break is Honda have announced that they

1290
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Speaker 2: will be making IC engines for quote unquote decades to come.

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Speaker 2: So that's good. Europe is changing their laws on when

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Speaker 2: they're banning the combustion engine, they're pushing it back in

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Speaker 2: five year blocks, so that's happening very, very rapidly, so

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Speaker 2: that's encouraging. I watched Harry's garage Yesterday's latest video is

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Speaker 2: bordering on being a documentary where he was I to

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Speaker 2: go to Ferrari as in the factory and look into

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Speaker 2: the history and background of the Ferrari Dino. So if

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Speaker 2: you're into Ferrari, the Dino was the V six Dino

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Speaker 2: was a person. He was the son of Enzo et cetera,

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Speaker 2: and in very collectible car these days, so that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I also my nineteen ninety three hour eighty which stopped

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Speaker 2: again literally doing nothing but idly it just stopped. The

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: part has been located after several weeks in America and

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Speaker 2: was due in the country sometime now, at which point

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Speaker 2: it will be attached to the car and the cow

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Speaker 2: will start, perhaps for a while, perhaps not really at all.

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Speaker 10: And my bad, how many tariffs have to be go

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Speaker 10: back with the good question?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't got to that particular part

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Speaker 2: of the equation yet, but anyway, so it's the car

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Speaker 2: news for now. Joel Speaker hed a Harley last time

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Speaker 2: I talked to him. Joel Shadbolt is back.

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Speaker 1: With a shortly opinion edit, informed, und apologetic, the mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Alvida, Retirement Communities, Life your Way, News Talks, ready.

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Speaker 8: To He's on.

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Speaker 14: Take it on the world.

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Speaker 1: He's a man, a lot guy.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past eight lb all some summer three

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Speaker 2: special outdoor shows one and Towering, a one off on

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Speaker 2: the Gold Coast and this weekend there in Auckland or

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize this Auckland will be their first time

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Speaker 2: in four years. Joel Shabalter is back with us. Joel morning.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How's it going very well? You're feeling good.

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Speaker 11: I'm feeling good. You know. I haven't had my coffee yet.

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Speaker 11: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: You go how many in a day for your coffee?

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Speaker 11: I'm trying to cut down, you see, so maybe two.

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Speaker 2: My reading of coffee is you can probably go four

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: to five with not only no harm to you, but

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Speaker 2: you will enhance your health in a variety of different ways.

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Speaker 2: Are we talking double shots or well, no double shots?

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Speaker 2: I reckon you go four or five double shots.

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 2: Heck, I was reading an article. Just correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, because last time I talked to you, you

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Speaker 2: said you'd sold you Harley and there'd be some charity

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Speaker 2: work in there. But then I read this article that

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Speaker 2: said you've got a Harley if you bought another one?

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Speaker 2: Or is this just an old article I read?

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Speaker 11: No, that's an old article. Yeah, I did sell the

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Speaker 11: bike and gave some money to Iron.

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Speaker 2: Hope you don't in living without a bike, you don't

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Speaker 2: feel like you miss it.

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Speaker 11: I do feel like I'm missing a leg. To be honest,

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Speaker 11: I grew up around motorbikes, so it's definitely something that

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Speaker 11: I'll get back into I think when I'm older and mature.

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Speaker 2: Good on you. What's happened to the four years in

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Speaker 2: Auckland thing? I didn't realize it was that long. How

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01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: come it's so long between drinks?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I didn't realize that, to be honest. It's well,

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Speaker 11: we've been doing lots of stuff overseas, so we've been

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Speaker 11: over to the States a couple of times, and that's

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Speaker 11: in the last four years. They're playing in Hawaii, which

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Speaker 11: has been cool, but in regards to New Zealand shows,

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Speaker 11: we just have been heading you know, the smaller cities,

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Speaker 11: I guess, the smaller towns. And this year we thought

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Speaker 11: you were going to come back up to the big

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Speaker 11: smoke good stuff.

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Speaker 2: These three shows you've done was the gold coaster success ahead,

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 11: It went really well. It's the first time we've done

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Speaker 11: like a big show of our own, like outdoors over there,

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Speaker 11: and we had about seven and a half thousand and yeah, great,

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Speaker 11: great crowd. Stand Walker play with us too, so yeah,

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Speaker 11: it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: And stands with you in Auckland this weekend. Where did

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Speaker 2: the stand thing come about from? How does that sort

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Speaker 2: of come together?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we're both well, the two of us are both

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Speaker 11: local boys from Totonger, so there's that connection and then

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Speaker 11: it's just kind of like a good musical marriage really,

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Speaker 11: like with both bands really compliment each other on the

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Speaker 11: road and we've got a good crossover with the demographic

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Speaker 11: and stuff like that. And he's just an incredible singer

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Speaker 11: and you know, great guy to jam with. He comes

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Speaker 11: up on stage with us at the show and stuff

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Speaker 11: like that, so it's lots of fun.

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Speaker 2: He's always been He's always struck me. You'll know him

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Speaker 2: why a bit of than I do, But he's always

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Speaker 2: struck me as an awfully, awfully nice person.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he's the man, always kind of always easy at

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Speaker 11: the time of day.

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Speaker 2: That's good. The Nesian Mystic aspect of the show, they

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01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: haven't performed in Auckland over fifteen years, so how did

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Speaker 2: that come about?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that was again just just kind of hit the

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Speaker 11: drawing board, like who can we have on this lineup,

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Speaker 11: you know, and that can bring some people and with man,

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Speaker 11: what about nes Are Mystic And then the same thing.

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Speaker 11: They haven't played in Auckland for ages, way longer than us,

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Speaker 11: so that's been a cool little addition to the show

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Speaker 11: as well.

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Speaker 2: And how much warming up is required and if you

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Speaker 2: do three shows over summer, are your match fit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 11: I mean I me and you have talked about the

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Speaker 11: sauna thing and all that kind of stuff, Like all

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01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 11: of that stuff comes into it, especially this time of year,

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Speaker 11: and to be locked in with training and all that

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Speaker 11: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also the sound on stage and being able

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Speaker 2: to just pick up and go. What do you need

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Speaker 2: to practice on a regular basis?

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Speaker 11: Ah, you're saying it. Do we rehearses? Yeah, yeah, we do.

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Speaker 11: But to be honest, we've rehearsed the show kind of

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Speaker 11: early in the summer. We've done a lot of festivals

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Speaker 11: this year as well, so alongside our our own shows

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01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 11: that we've put on, we've we've played down at Rhythm

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 11: and Vines and stuff like that too, So we kind

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Speaker 11: of rehearsed around that Christmas time for that a week.

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Speaker 2: Festivals. What are you because in also I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you follow this, but in Australia festivals seem in

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: real trouble the festival season here. Is there a future

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01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: for festivals in general or is this just a phase

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Speaker 2: that we're moving through.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's just a phase. And also the

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 11: festival circuit's definitely healthier than it's been in the last

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Speaker 11: couple of years. It's I think post COVID there was

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Speaker 11: a lot of stuff that went down with trying to

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Speaker 11: get you know, festivals back up and going, and just

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Speaker 11: to ensure an outside gig was stupid amounts of money.

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Speaker 11: So there's it's definitely been hard for the festival circuit,

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Speaker 11: but there's there's a lot of great things going now

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Speaker 11: and I think it's it's looking good for the future.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hold on, mate, we'll come back with a

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Speaker 2: couple more questions in the moment. Joel Shadbolt Lab in

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Speaker 2: Auckland this weekend twelve past.

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Speaker 1: Eight the mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

1432
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Speaker 1: Car it by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks. It'll be fourteen minutes past eight.

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Speaker 2: Joel shared Bolts with us Lab this weekend in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Am I correct Joel and saying, Brad rang you was

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Speaker 2: it teen years ago? Twenty fifteen dead?

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 11: Yes, that's right.

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: Does it seem like a decade?

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01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 11: Yep?

1440
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 11: I was singing out the other day it's it's going

1442
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 11: to be ten years of our first album release and

1443
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 11: next year, so we started writing and recording in twenty

1444
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 11: fifteen and released the first album twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: It's gone quite well, then, isn't it.

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 11: It has? Yeah, I think so did you?

1447
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: What did you think then versus what you think now

1448
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: about what would happen?

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01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 11: I think back then, I you know, I had a

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 11: dream of wanting to do this, and now that I'm

1451
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 11: here doing it, it's how can I keep doing it

1452
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 11: for the next twenty years? And how I feel about it?

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 11: I think it's it's amazing and special. I didn't think

1454
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 11: I expected it to go like this. I don't think

1455
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 11: any of us kind of expected it to be honest,

1456
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 11: to go to the heights that it's gone to. It's

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01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 11: been a ride, it's been beautiful.

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: Can you explain it? I mean, if you put it

1459
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: down as a business case, what's been the magic.

1460
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Speaker 11: I guess the magic word would be chemistry between you know,

1461
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 11: between the musicians. It's that kind of is what it

1462
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 11: boils down to, you know, the songwriting. This in the

1463
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 11: stage kind of connection that we have is what resonates

1464
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 11: with the people, and that's what fires us up and

1465
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 11: we can feel it and then obviously, yeah, it resonates.

1466
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 11: It's it's hard to put your finger on like what

1467
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 11: exactly it is, but just it's a massive shift of

1468
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 11: energy and if you're in the right yeah, with the

1469
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 11: right people, it's amazing. What can happen.

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Speaker 2: Anything is possible. Do you reckon you're getting better.

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Speaker 11: In different ways? Yeah, I think so as definitely crafting,

1472
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 11: you know, songwriting and all that kind of stuff personally,

1473
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 11: but as a band with you know, it's when you've

1474
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 11: been playing the amount of shows and gigs we've played

1475
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 11: as a band, it's it's kind of walking a walk

1476
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 11: in the park in that sense, and we know what

1477
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 11: works and what doesn't now and like that. So yeah,

1478
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 11: it's that.

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: Nice line though, and it's a nice line. But it's

1480
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Speaker 2: good to be able to be comfortable enough to enjoy it.

1481
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: But you also don't want to get into that rest

1482
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: on your laurels type thing, and it's it's all easy

1483
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: because you know, before you know, that'll be gone. So

1484
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: so you're kind of at that point, aren't you.

1485
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 11: I guess we are, Yeah, for sure, we we. Yeah,

1486
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 11: there's a there's a lot and ahead of us that

1487
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 11: were I feel like it's uncharted and excited to see

1488
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 11: what you know, what the band does and where it goes.

1489
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: Because the Music Awards last year, you got the I

1490
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: can't remember what the official title is, but you've got

1491
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: the You've done a whole lot of cool stuff for

1492
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: the Music Industry Award, didn't you.

1493
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that that says something about I mean, it's

1495
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: it's a it's a work off substance, isn't it, and

1496
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: officially recognized as such.

1497
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 11: Yeah for sure. Yeah, that was a really special moment

1498
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 11: and kind of surreal when you when they kind of

1499
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 11: presented what we've done in the in the in the

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Speaker 11: past and the albums and the success of in the

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01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 11: Air and you know, all that stuff. It's quite mind boggling.

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Speaker 2: Can you wander down the street these days broadly unrecognized

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01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: or not?

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01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, and no, I think it depends where I

1505
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 11: hang out. But yeah, it's people do recognize and that

1506
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 11: they't come up so high and go a photo. That

1507
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 11: they're pretty respectful in general.

1508
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: That's good. What have you got planned for the year?

1509
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: Apart from this weekend? What do you got planned for

1510
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 2: the year? What's on the agenda?

1511
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 11: We've got some recording. We're working on our seventh album,

1512
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 11: so we're going to be back in the studio down

1513
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 11: to Welmington, doing a lot of recording down there, and

1514
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 11: we've got a couple of trips overseas and the pipelines.

1515
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 11: Nothing locked in yet, but hoping to get back over

1516
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 11: to the States, Europe, back to Hawaii, stuff like that.

1517
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: Fantastic, We'll go well, lovely to catch up and good

1518
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: luck this weekend. Appreciate it and good to talk to

1519
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: you as always.

1520
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks Mike keV A good one.

1521
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: Good on any man. Joel Shadbolt, who is with Lab

1522
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 2: nineteen past.

1523
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: The Mike Hocking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talk.

1524
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 2: Zibya twenty two. Mike, we could listen to you for

1525
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: a six hour shift, plus play your bonus. You're a

1526
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: national treasure plus a ripper of the Blake. That's very

1527
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: nice of you to say. Appreciate that. I was watching

1528
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: the motor racing, by the way, speaking of cars, as

1529
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: watching the motor racing over the weekend. It was a

1530
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: nym for cargo and it rained the entire weekend, and

1531
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: it was thirteen degrees and it looked like the middle

1532
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: of winter, and in fact, it rained at one point

1533
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: so badly that the last race on which was the

1534
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: feature race, the major race or one of the feature

1535
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: races had to be red flag for the day and

1536
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: it was canceled and run the next day Sunday, where

1537
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: it was equally wet. So it's been a miserable old time.

1538
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: But the motor racing when it was running, I've never

1539
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 2: seen so many safety cars in my life. Literally every

1540
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 2: race had a safety car, if not several. Literally every race,

1541
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: the cars came off at the same corner, because if

1542
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: you know te a tongue, there aren't actually that many corners,

1543
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: but the one corner there is. Everyone came off, didn't

1544
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 2: matter what car you were in. The best one was

1545
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: the and I suppose it's slightly unfair. The best one

1546
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: was a guy came off in a single seater race,

1547
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 2: little single seater race, and he beached himself in the

1548
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: gravel and he was having while the camera just focused

1549
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 2: in on him. He was having a serious word with himself.

1550
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: He was banging his car, banging his steering wheel, wrenching

1551
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: his seat belt off there and eventually getting out of

1552
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: the car, talking more to himself, then striding through the gravel,

1553
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: going back to the car, hitting the car, walking over

1554
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: to the tires, sitting on the tires, holding his head,

1555
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: holding his helmet, bursting into tears, what looked like bursting

1556
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: into tears, walking back to the car, then back from

1557
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: the car to the tires. All the while we're just

1558
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,520
Speaker 2: looking at him, going, you poor bastard.

1559
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 10: What do you reckon? Even say to himself something along

1560
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 10: the lines of is only one corner?

1561
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 2: A single corner? How did I cock that up? Anyway?

1562
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: The final weekend of the summer's racing is this weekend

1563
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 2: in Cromwell, which your fingers crossed on the nice weather.

1564
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the safety car have an accident.

1565
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: I've never seen the safety car, but they would have

1566
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: something to do to speat, is my suspicion. It would

1567
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 2: have something to do with speed, is my guess. Mike.

1568
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 2: I was a confirmed solo runner. But park runs amazing.

1569
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: It's free, and I mentioned this earlier on in the program.

1570
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: This is my daughter. She sent me photo. Funnily enough,

1571
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 2: London at the moment looks fantastic. What did this last weekend?

1572
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: It was twelve thirteen degrees, which is it's not bad

1573
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: for the middle of winter in London, clear blue sky.

1574
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 2: She was at Battersea Park doing her park run free.

1575
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: It's run by volunteers and the buzz and community make

1576
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: the running fun. The app fines events, shares information, lets

1577
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: you miss it progress. I've done the five k events

1578
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: in three countries. I did it with a mate and

1579
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: after years hating running with others, I now look forward

1580
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 2: to joining two three four hundred runners on a Saturday morning.

1581
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: Isn't that cool? Park Run Mike Free Time Global Event.

1582
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: It's fantastic, summarizes all your races and volunteer events so

1583
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: clever all over the world. I think the all over

1584
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: the world thing is probably the magic of it, because

1585
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: I keep going back to if you want to run

1586
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: around a park, why not? And as Glenn quite rightly

1587
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: said earlier on in the program, you are running with

1588
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: other people's fun. But if you go to London, you

1589
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: know you're in London on a sunny Saturday and you're

1590
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: in Batassea Park or Hyde Park, you're thinking, you know

1591
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: you're part of something big, aren't you. Morning? Mike wanted

1592
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: my son to ring you and tell you about his car.

1593
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: Toby's our son's bet. Toby, our son's best mate, has

1594
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: been in the country taking some for a last one

1595
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: in his late father's cow which he is selling. It's

1596
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: a Mercedes one ninety EVO two driven by Michael Schumacher

1597
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: when his father was manager of the World Truck Racing.

1598
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: Mercedes gave it to Toby's father as a president to

1599
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: say thanks dealers and Dubai. Can't say how much, but

1600
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: around six hundred thousand dollars. Only one in the country

1601
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: in Southeast Asia. Beautiful condition been in a museum for

1602
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: eight years. By the way, there's a theme I don't

1603
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: know if you've noticed it on television at the moment

1604
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: with all new products, and the theme is a thriller.

1605
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: The theme is thriller and I watched Steel, Stea and

1606
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: the Rip. They are the same thing. One set in England,

1607
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: one set in America. One's got money market people, one's

1608
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: got cops. But apart from that, they're the same thing.

1609
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: They discover a lot of money, and the moral dilemma

1610
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: is to whether they take it, Do they take it,

1611
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: how much they take it for? Can they morally justify

1612
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: whether they're taking it? While also immersed in the plot

1613
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 2: is the who's actually behind it all? Scenario? In Steel,

1614
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: the outcome is unbelievably disappointing. Six episodes Episodes one through

1615
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: five scintillating Episode six, complete and utter crap with a

1616
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: moral message that you go and turn to your partner

1617
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 2: on the sofa and go. You've got to be kidding.

1618
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 10: How many episodes is there?

1619
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: The Rip's a movie. Damon and Afflick, for the first

1620
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: time ever, because of their clout, have cut a back

1621
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: end deal with Netflix. Netflix never do the back end deals.

1622
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: They always pay you money up front, but they've spread

1623
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 2: the money among everything, the people, the makeup, the producers,

1624
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: the directors, the caterers and of course them. So that's

1625
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: the first time they've ever done that. But that's better

1626
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: than Steel. If I was going to recommend only one

1627
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 2: of two things, I'd recommend the Rip.

1628
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: The News is next You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion,

1629
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,440
Speaker 1: and Mike the Mic asking Breakfast with the Defender embraced

1630
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: the impossible news togs dead.

1631
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: B we Go One small step. Mike Autobiography of the

1632
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: Park Run found that excellent reads started to run on

1633
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: his own mental health. Look what happened over time. That's

1634
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: very encouraging. Morning Mike 'trick and the driver of the

1635
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: Winton Cranes truck did more laps than some of the

1636
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: cows and regain. It's so true. He saw the motor

1637
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: racing over the weekend. He had he know, he had

1638
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: a big he know, with a with a big arm

1639
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: on the back, and that guided more apps in more

1640
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: miles than I've ever seen anybody do in a race.

1641
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,839
Speaker 2: Meeting over the weekend, twenty three minutes away from nine.

1642
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace of mind

1643
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: for New Zealand.

1644
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: Business Another day, another Tory.

1645
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 13: I've had enough of conservative betrayal. I've had enough of

1646
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 13: conservative denial. I've had enough of the political chameleons who

1647
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 13: populate the Conservative Party, enough of conservative delusion. They are

1648
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 13: a party now that is too week to say themselves,

1649
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 13: let alone the country.

1650
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: So happy camper Rod littles with us, Rod, how are you.

1651
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 9: Very well? Thanks? In a better frame of mine? Non, Suella,

1652
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 9: I think, But.

1653
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: Yet is she the biggest prize yet?

1654
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 9: You probably have to say that Jenrick was Robert Jenrick,

1655
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 9: who was effectively, you know, the second best known conservative

1656
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 9: politician from the current administration in the country. But Suella

1657
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 9: is certainly up there. It's not a wild surprise, I

1658
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 9: have to say. I mean, I have been expecting Suella

1659
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 9: to jump ship for about eight months, and I would

1660
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 9: ring her every few months to say if you go

1661
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 9: on me yet, and she would deny ever having any

1662
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 9: intention of going. But she is a big beast. She

1663
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 9: was a moderately successful Capital of member, certainly on the

1664
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 9: right of the party. She's comparable in a way to

1665
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 9: Pretty Patel. So it is a bit coup for reform.

1666
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 9: And I think these these defections are going to keep

1667
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 9: coming all the way through, certainly until May, and then

1668
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 9: probably after May as well. May as when we have

1669
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 9: the local council.

1670
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: Elections, well do you or just some some Well.

1671
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 9: We have a few of them, we have a few.

1672
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 12: Uh.

1673
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 9: The Labor Party has taken the interesting approach to this election,

1674
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 9: which is that if councils who fear they're going to

1675
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 9: lose their elections don't want to have them, they take

1676
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 9: and perstpone them for a few years. It's a shocking

1677
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 9: assault the world.

1678
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: The world is fixated with Trump and Georgia and stealing

1679
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: the election and Biden and machines, and you know, we

1680
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: all think that's as weird as and yet in Britain,

1681
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 2: as directed by Starmer, will hold an election. I hold on. No,

1682
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: we won't, I mean anywhere else that'd be like you'd

1683
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: be on the street rising.

1684
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 9: Now it's been because it's very hard to call Kirs

1685
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 9: Starma a fascist. It's only the far right, which two

1686
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 9: thingsie this, of course not Kirs Starmer, but he's done it.

1687
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 9: And you know, one third of our elections, all of

1688
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 9: them folding labor strongholds where they're scared of losing. I've

1689
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 9: decided to postpone. It's the one thing which occurred to

1690
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 9: me when there was all this incredible drama over the

1691
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 9: weekend over whether anti Burnham would stand it a by

1692
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 9: election and what would kiss Starma do about it? I thought, well,

1693
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 9: why doesn't he just cancel the election like it cancels?

1694
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 9: All the others.

1695
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: Say, we laugh and yet it's egregious. Let me come

1696
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: back to Berno in just a moment. But as regards

1697
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: FORAJ and Co, if you got bed knock in a

1698
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: quiet moment, would she know who's going andy? You know

1699
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: another word? She would saying that it was probably another

1700
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 2: dozen to go.

1701
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 9: Yes, I suspect Kenny if I'd asked her, and I

1702
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 9: should have done in all truth, had asked if I'd

1703
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 9: asked for three or four months ago. Who do you

1704
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 9: things likely to go? Then? Then Suella Brabhaman would be

1705
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 9: top of the list, generic second, and I don't know

1706
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 9: who comes next. The reform of very successfully kind of

1707
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 9: hoovered up the right of the Conservative Party. But there

1708
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 9: are more, There are more people. There's no question about.

1709
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: That now as regards Andy Burnham. So for people who

1710
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: didn't follow it, the bloke in Manchester, he steps down

1711
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 2: with a pinch and I noticed. I said it was

1712
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 2: a very nice deal stitched up anyway. So Burnham wants

1713
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: to stand. But then how does Starmer say this with

1714
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: a straight face, that we worry about the cost of

1715
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: a Miror election.

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Speaker 9: The same way he says we're going to stop all

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Speaker 9: these elections taking place because we're reorganizing local government. It's

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Speaker 9: a downright lie. Everyone knows it's a lie, but he

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 9: sticks to it. It is remarkable, you know. I spoke

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Speaker 9: to a very very senior lay personal Friday on Saturday

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Speaker 9: rather and set him will Starmer cancel this this election?

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Speaker 9: Will he stopped Berlin from Stanley? And the guy who

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Speaker 9: was an opponent of Starmer said no, he dared not

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Speaker 9: do that. It would just be totally unconstitutional, and yet

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Speaker 9: and yet, and everyone knows this, and Andy Burnham knows it,

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Speaker 9: and the electorate know it, and all it's doing really

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Speaker 9: is staving off Peter Starmer's execution for another month, because

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Speaker 9: what will happen now is that Labor, which would have

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 9: won that seat had Andy Burnham stood, will probably lose it,

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Speaker 9: and then they will lose a whole bunch of seats

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Speaker 9: in the council elections, and Starmer's deck will be on

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 9: the chopping rock again, you know. And he's also lost

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Speaker 9: the support of any people in the cabinet who thought

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Speaker 9: that Andy Burnham should stand, such as the psychedelically and

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Speaker 9: Handstead miliband. But also people are more important in a way.

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Speaker 9: People like Lucy Powell, West Streeting and Angela Rayner all

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Speaker 9: voiced their support for Burnham to stand.

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Speaker 2: Is Burnham quite obviously a leader or is he just

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01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: a name that people have gathered around because the second Stammer.

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Speaker 9: A bit of both. I have to tell you, mate,

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01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 9: that when I was a member of the Labor Party

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01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 9: in twenty fifteen, I voted for Burnham as leader of

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:45,480
Speaker 9: the party. I may have been mistaken. He's a good politician,

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01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:50,480
Speaker 9: he's certainly way way better at politician and a communicator

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01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 9: than Keir Starmer. It doesn't really know what you get

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Speaker 9: with Burnham. I voted for him because I thought he

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01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 9: was Bluish labor, but he also appeals to the left

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01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 9: of the party, he appeals to the right of the

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Speaker 9: party and the center of the party. He's able to

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01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 9: be all things to all men. And I'm always a

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01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 9: bit suspicious of people like that, but there's no question

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Speaker 9: that he's a sophisticated politician.

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Speaker 2: Just briefly, the reorganization of the polices, I understand it

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01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: from my reading over the weekend. We're going from forty

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: three different forces to twelve mega forces. And what is

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01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: this about and is it going to make any difference.

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Speaker 9: I think there's a general sense in the country that

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01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 9: the police isn't the our police force isn't fit for purpose.

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01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 9: Shabannemouth Mood undoubtedly the most competent of the cabinet members

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Speaker 9: of them, and the Home Secretary is trying to make

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Speaker 9: the police more up to date. This will mean smaller,

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01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 9: larger police forces covering greater areas, getting rid of the

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Speaker 9: very small ones such as the one there where I

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Speaker 9: live Cleveland, which has been has a strop who is corrupt.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see where it guys, and we'll see you Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Might appreciate it. There's always Rod Little in Britain.

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Speaker 1: It's eight forty five The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show

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01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News TODSB.

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Speaker 2: Just before we leave Britain, Starmer had to pull a

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01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 2: Lord's debate on Chagos. They thought they had a deal.

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: He said, there was a deal. That doesn't appear to

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01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: be a deal. Trump got in the way of that,

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01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 2: despite the fact that Trump last year said he didn't

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Speaker 2: have any particular problem with it. Borrowing in Britain is down.

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Speaker 2: Government Borrowing in Britain is down. It's encouraging. They're on

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 2: the verge of introducing this thing is starting to get

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01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: some leags. Catherine told us earlier that France is about

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01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: to vote on the under in their case fifteens. In

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Speaker 2: Britain it will be sixteens. Along with Australias. On social media,

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01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 2: Starmer was facing a backbench rebellion from all the hard lefties,

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: so he's acquiesced to them. So it might be taking off,

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Speaker 2: I know it. Interestingly, by the way just before I

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Speaker 2: forget speaking of cars and Britain. Ironically, the King turned

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01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 2: up in his new Carriage's got a new Lotus. He's

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Speaker 2: gotten a Lotus Electra and it's in the same claret.

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Speaker 2: It's called Royal claret, which is I'm assuming an option,

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: and options for paint on cars are expensive. But he's

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01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: got all his cars are in Royal claret. But he's

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: got He used to have the Jaguar I Pace, but

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01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: he sold that for charity. And now he's got a

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Speaker 2: Lotus Electra, and apparently Camilla runs around the estate in it,

1793
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: but it's a having driven one. They're an unusual car.

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01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 2: They're not a Lotus as you and I would know it.

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01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: They're made by the Chinese, but they are. It's electric, obviously,

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01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: and it's fantastically fast. Silent but lethal is what he

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01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: said as he got out of it going to church.

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Speaker 2: Silent but lethal does zero to one hundred.

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Speaker 1: And bout that it wasn't just because he had been

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Speaker 1: for breakfast.

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Speaker 2: No, probably not two point nine seconds zero to one hundred,

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01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: not that he does that, I don't suspect, but Royal claret,

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01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: Lotus Electra, I think Lotus. Will we please made just

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01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: up the road from his house. I think they'll be

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Speaker 2: please for the sales. I don't think Lotus are selling

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Speaker 2: a lot of electures these days. Very good piece you

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Speaker 2: should read. By the way, why are New zealand As

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01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 2: moving to Australia? This is not just more of the same,

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: because we've gone through that all of the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years. This was written by a bloke at the

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: New York Times, so it's got that outside the world

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01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: looking in what's going on. And they talk as usual

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01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 2: to a number of you know, emmigration people, and they

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01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: start off, unfortunately with Tory Farnow, who I wouldn't have

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01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: thought is a regular example of a New Zealand looking

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 2: to move to Australia, but nevertheless they signed her. Anyway,

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: the point was, and I thought it was a very

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01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: good one, and you don't want to say it because

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: you look to insult people, but one of the people

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01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: they talk to is go Basically, people are just chasing hope.

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01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: I mean, for all of the good things you can

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01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 2: say about Australia, you can say just as many bad

1823
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: things about Australia. Australia's in many respects are completely not

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01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:49,799
Speaker 2: a mess and We had the story on the programme

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01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 2: last week of all the people, particularly arriving in Queensland,

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01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: no job, no money, no idea. First thing they do

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 2: is turn up at the charity shop and go, oh,

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01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: life's not the way we thought. And of course they

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01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: didn't give it two seconds worth of thought and the

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01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: summed it up beautifully. People are really just chasing hope.

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Speaker 2: But in conclusion, another bloke they talk to, This bloke moved,

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Speaker 2: Thomas christ jur It's to Perth. He earns about twenty

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01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: thousand dollars more as a social worker. Is that worth it?

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01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 2: It's twenty thousand dollars a year. You know, if you

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: go Wi, do you go to it? I mean, if

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01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 2: you love Perth and it's hot and hot, go to

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01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 2: Adelaide at the moment at fifty one degrees, see how

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: you feeling. But if you go to Perth, I mean

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01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 2: for twenty thousand dollars a year, is that really worth moving?

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01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 2: When people talking about earning more money if you double

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01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: your salary, you know, if your truck driver in the

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01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: mines or a fly and fly out, sure, but twenty

1843
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: grand a year anyway, his his thing vibes and that's it.

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01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: Isn't it. You can't put a finger on it. It's

1845
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: the vibes. The vibes are better. It feels more positive.

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01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: People are happy, and that's a state of mind thing.

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01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: If you're convinced of something, it will be true. Eight

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: On my costing breakfast with Vida Retirement can unites news,

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Speaker 2: Now something people need to know. Hearing loss is closely

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01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 2: linked to memory and cognitive decline.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Not because hearing loss dirictly causes dementia, but because when

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01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: you can't hear properly, your brain has to work harder

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: just to keep up, of course, and all that extra

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01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: effort drains the mental energy that would normally be used

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01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: for your memory. You focus in your thinking, so over

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01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: time basically you withdraw from conversations and social situations and

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01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 2: you didn't even realize it. And research shows that treating

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Speaker 2: hearing loss early can significantly reduce cognitive strain and help

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Speaker 2: you stay mentally sharper for longer. This is why Resonate

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Speaker 2: what you hear. It examines how you're hearing and how

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Speaker 2: it may be affecting your memory, your balance, your sleep,

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Speaker 2: and your overall well being. It's not a quick screening,

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Speaker 2: it's a proper health conversation. So I mention I sent you,

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Speaker 2: so Mike sent me. You'll get fifty percent off fifty

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Speaker 2: five ohero percent off your ear three sixty appointment. You

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Speaker 2: seven three seven sixty six two trending.

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Speaker 1: Now who chemist wows great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure this souls anything, but Carneo West has

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01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: got a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal

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01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,440
Speaker 2: and he's apologizing for his behavior, all the anti Semitism

1879
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Speaker 2: and the promotion of Hitler and the Nazis. It was

1880
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: a crash twenty five years ago. It's entitled to those

1881
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: I've hurt, and he says twenty five years ago. It's lengthy.

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01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't have time for it all, but he's a taste.

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Twenty five years ago, I was in a car accident

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01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: that broke my during caused injury to the right frontal

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01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: lobe of my brain. At the time, the focus was

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01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: on the visible damage, the fracture, the swelling, and the

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01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: immediate physical trauma. The deeper injury, the one inside my skull,

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01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: went unnoticed. The bipolar comes with its own defense system,

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01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: he says, denial. When you manic, you don't think you're sick.

1890
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: You think everyone else is overreacting. You feel like you're

1891
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: seeing the world more clearly than ever, when in reality

1892
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 2: you're losing your grip entirely. The scariest thing about this

1893
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 2: disorder is how persuasive it is. When it tells you

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01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: you don't need help. It makes you blind. I'm not

1895
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,879
Speaker 2: asking for sympathy or a free pass, though I aspire

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01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: to your forgiveness. I write today simply to ask for

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Speaker 2: your patience and understanding as I find my way home.

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01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: As I say, very lengthy, I'm sure to get published

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01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: all over the world in various forms. But is it

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Speaker 2: another episode or is it the real deal? And will

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01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: we ever truly know? Back tomorrow morning on the mic,

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01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: asking breakfast as always, happy breakfast. You know how long

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01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: up in this question?

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Speaker 14: After this old you.

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01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 11: Still handle again?

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01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: There for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast. Listen live

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Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or

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