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Speaker 1: So the government's made the call to opt out of

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Speaker 1: propose new infant formula rules. Now, these rules would have

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Speaker 1: led to the labels being removed from the infant formula tins,

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Speaker 1: some being taken off the supermarket shelves, altogether sold only

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Speaker 1: at pharmacies, doctors, nutritionists and so on. Two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: Ossie ministers overruled New Zealand and voted to adopt the rules.

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Speaker 1: Cabinet has today decided to ditch the standards and develop

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Speaker 1: our own. Andrew Hogat is the Food Safety Minister.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Andrew hi hever, how are you very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Are you going to get You're going to

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Speaker 1: get in trouble with the Aussies.

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Speaker 2: For this, I don't think so. I made it fairly

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Speaker 2: clear in the meeting that minutes in the communicate from

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Speaker 2: the meeting that New Zealand would be considering its options

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Speaker 2: in regards to opting out. So they were pretty well

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Speaker 2: clear as to where we stood. And you know, we've

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Speaker 2: considered and this is our answer.

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Speaker 1: When we opt out. Are we opting out of the

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Speaker 1: whole code or just this particular part.

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Speaker 2: Just well, we're opting out of this standard on infant

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Speaker 2: formula in saying that, as I mentioned last time, was

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Speaker 2: on nine nine percent of it is pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: So in creating a new New Zealand standard, we would

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Speaker 2: be using all of that good stuff and just where

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Speaker 2: you know it's going to have an impact on our

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Speaker 2: exporters in the Chinese market, we would be looking to

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Speaker 2: have those that modification that works for us.

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Speaker 1: What is the impact on our exporters in the Chinese.

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Speaker 2: Market, Well, I mean they've basically said that at the moment,

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Speaker 2: the two main companies involved in known in A two

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Speaker 2: that they're at a pretty competitive disadvantage to European companies

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Speaker 2: that are able to put list ingredients on their tins.

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Speaker 2: A two in particular was pretty concerned that they couldn't

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Speaker 2: advertise the fact on the front of the tin that

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Speaker 2: has made with the A two routeing as in the

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Speaker 2: name and yes, so that they were. They've shown the

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Speaker 2: data over the last year how they've been slipping in

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Speaker 2: sales to particularly products from Europe. So that puts us

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Speaker 2: on a bit of an unleveled playing field, or even

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Speaker 2: more of an unleveled playing field with European providers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now things should improve, but in terms of

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Speaker 1: us being able to then send infant formula over to Australia.

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Speaker 1: This will create a wrinkle, won't it.

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Speaker 2: There will be a wrinkle, but I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: something that can't be worked through.

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Speaker 1: It is our market of infant formula to ASSI.

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Speaker 2: This is it's around one hundred fifty to three I

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Speaker 2: can't remember the exact number, but it's not as big

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Speaker 2: as the.

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Speaker 1: Market saying no, of course not. But are you saying

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Speaker 1: one fifty to three hundred million.

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Speaker 2: I think it's one hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 1: That's massive, Okay, yeah, but there.

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Speaker 2: Is ways around so we can basically, you know, all

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Speaker 2: that's required is they relabel it for Australian.

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Speaker 1: Markets, Andrew sure like they're not going to have to

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Speaker 1: do a different run for the Aussies.

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Speaker 2: It's just literally the same. Where we're focusing on the

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Speaker 2: labeling the composition. Our intention is to be the competition.

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Speaker 2: The composition sorry to be exactly the same, so there

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Speaker 2: won't be an issue there.

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Speaker 1: Are the Aussies going to be decent about this because

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Speaker 1: they haven't been, Like I mean, you went into that

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Speaker 1: meeting thinking you could get a review. They obviously were

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Speaker 1: not even up for being decent about that. Are they

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Speaker 1: going to be decent about this?

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Speaker 2: Look, there wasn't any animosity in the meeting, and I

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Speaker 2: mean to be fair for them. You know that they

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Speaker 2: were of the attitude that we've been working on this

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Speaker 2: for eleven years. The report says everything's fine and they

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Speaker 2: were wanting to move on with it, whereas I was

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Speaker 2: quite concerned with the uncertainty. But there wasn't any animosity,

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Speaker 2: So I don't see any reason why there should be

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Speaker 2: any animosity going forward. Good.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Andrew, thank you so much for your time. Andrew Hoggard,

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Speaker 1: food Safety Minister.

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