1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,267 Speaker 2: Great to kick the show off by welcoming in Denmark's 4 00:00:15,347 --> 00:00:18,707 Speaker 2: most successful female sailor of all time. She's been to 5 00:00:18,787 --> 00:00:22,187 Speaker 2: four Olympic Games London twenty twelve, then bronze and the 6 00:00:22,227 --> 00:00:26,067 Speaker 2: laser at Rio twenty sixteen, Olympic Champion in Tokyo, and 7 00:00:26,067 --> 00:00:28,587 Speaker 2: then a silver at Paris twenty twenty four which she 8 00:00:28,707 --> 00:00:32,307 Speaker 2: was all so the Danish flag bearer. She became the 9 00:00:32,347 --> 00:00:35,067 Speaker 2: first Danish winner of World Sailor of the Year in 10 00:00:35,107 --> 00:00:37,867 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and since twenty twenty one she's been a 11 00:00:37,907 --> 00:00:41,307 Speaker 2: key part of the Rockwell Racing team. After a period 12 00:00:41,387 --> 00:00:45,227 Speaker 2: of maternity leave to welcome her first child, daughter summer, 13 00:00:45,507 --> 00:00:48,027 Speaker 2: she is back as strategist with the team for the 14 00:00:48,027 --> 00:00:51,707 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six season and Marie Rindham is with us 15 00:00:51,947 --> 00:00:54,867 Speaker 2: and Marie, thank you for joining us. Becoming a mum 16 00:00:55,147 --> 00:00:59,227 Speaker 2: life changing. How has it reshaped your perspective both personally 17 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:00,387 Speaker 2: and as a sailor. 18 00:01:01,347 --> 00:01:03,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for letting me join. 19 00:01:03,627 --> 00:01:06,467 Speaker 4: Very very happy to be here in New Zealand for 20 00:01:06,987 --> 00:01:10,987 Speaker 4: my second event of the year. It's definitely changed a 21 00:01:10,987 --> 00:01:14,067 Speaker 4: lot for me to have a child. You know, suddenly 22 00:01:14,067 --> 00:01:16,467 Speaker 4: my priorities is a bit different, but you know, I 23 00:01:16,467 --> 00:01:19,787 Speaker 4: still love sailing and that's still my passion. And yeah, 24 00:01:19,867 --> 00:01:21,907 Speaker 4: I really don't want to stop sailing just because I 25 00:01:21,907 --> 00:01:24,387 Speaker 4: have a baby. So she's here with me and cheering 26 00:01:24,427 --> 00:01:26,627 Speaker 4: on with on for the Danish team. 27 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:29,347 Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool, absolutely brilliant. Do you feel a 28 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:33,427 Speaker 2: sense of pride showing that motherhood and elite sport can 29 00:01:33,787 --> 00:01:35,867 Speaker 2: go together, can coexist? 30 00:01:36,867 --> 00:01:38,427 Speaker 3: Yes, it actually can. 31 00:01:38,507 --> 00:01:40,907 Speaker 4: And that's also a big thank you to my team 32 00:01:40,987 --> 00:01:44,147 Speaker 4: because you know, all the Danish sailors on the team 33 00:01:44,507 --> 00:01:47,667 Speaker 4: has been so helpful of getting me back and it's 34 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:50,107 Speaker 4: only just three months ago since I gave birth, so 35 00:01:50,467 --> 00:01:53,067 Speaker 4: of course the training and everything and the timing I'm 36 00:01:53,067 --> 00:01:58,947 Speaker 4: still breastfeeding and juggling around with all that timing has 37 00:01:58,987 --> 00:02:01,987 Speaker 4: been difficult, but everyone is so helpful. 38 00:02:02,027 --> 00:02:03,307 Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool. 39 00:02:03,107 --> 00:02:06,707 Speaker 4: To show that female sailors can still have a fan family, 40 00:02:07,267 --> 00:02:10,427 Speaker 4: create a family and then do top sport. You know, 41 00:02:10,507 --> 00:02:12,907 Speaker 4: all the guys on the team they have children, so 42 00:02:12,987 --> 00:02:16,827 Speaker 4: why shouldn't the girls also have it? So I feel 43 00:02:16,907 --> 00:02:19,347 Speaker 4: very lucky to be this and Nelson showing the next 44 00:02:19,427 --> 00:02:22,947 Speaker 4: generation that you don't have to wait until you're late 45 00:02:22,987 --> 00:02:24,427 Speaker 4: thirties to have a child. 46 00:02:25,027 --> 00:02:27,867 Speaker 2: Wonderful, wonderful stuff. How long did it take before you 47 00:02:27,947 --> 00:02:30,347 Speaker 2: felt race ready again? 48 00:02:31,627 --> 00:02:33,947 Speaker 4: Oh, that's actually a good question, because I think I 49 00:02:34,067 --> 00:02:36,747 Speaker 4: was very lucky and everyone is very different on which 50 00:02:36,787 --> 00:02:41,227 Speaker 4: birth they have. But already, after maybe three to three 51 00:02:41,267 --> 00:02:44,067 Speaker 4: weeks one month, I started training again and then I've 52 00:02:44,107 --> 00:02:47,947 Speaker 4: been training two months, just full on, of course, getting 53 00:02:47,987 --> 00:02:51,027 Speaker 4: back the body back. I don't feel like I'm fully 54 00:02:51,067 --> 00:02:54,147 Speaker 4: back yet, but I'm back enough. 55 00:02:53,947 --> 00:02:54,707 Speaker 3: To be on the boat. 56 00:02:54,707 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 4: And that's the cool part about being on a team 57 00:02:57,067 --> 00:02:59,707 Speaker 4: because we can all help each other. You know, there's 58 00:02:59,827 --> 00:03:03,107 Speaker 4: five other people on the boat and they take the 59 00:03:03,147 --> 00:03:06,627 Speaker 4: load of me, so that I'm easing back into into 60 00:03:06,667 --> 00:03:08,987 Speaker 4: sailing and that's pretty cool. 61 00:03:09,627 --> 00:03:11,507 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the twenty twenty six season. 62 00:03:11,507 --> 00:03:11,667 Speaker 4: Then. 63 00:03:11,747 --> 00:03:15,667 Speaker 2: What are the goals and ambitions for your team in 64 00:03:15,707 --> 00:03:16,627 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six? 65 00:03:17,907 --> 00:03:21,387 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, I think we are all really really 66 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:23,787 Speaker 4: keen to do our best, and I think we are 67 00:03:23,787 --> 00:03:25,867 Speaker 4: not you know, I know, we're not afraid to say 68 00:03:25,867 --> 00:03:28,467 Speaker 4: that we really want to win Sales GP. And we 69 00:03:28,507 --> 00:03:31,587 Speaker 4: won the last event of the twenty twenty five season, 70 00:03:31,867 --> 00:03:35,587 Speaker 4: and obviously coming away with a win was so cool 71 00:03:36,067 --> 00:03:39,667 Speaker 4: and we just wanted to do our best. We have 72 00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:44,827 Speaker 4: now a new ownership from American Magic, where we got 73 00:03:44,867 --> 00:03:48,347 Speaker 4: a lot of expertise, a lot of knowledge from very 74 00:03:48,347 --> 00:03:52,187 Speaker 4: good coaches and a very good structure now on the team, 75 00:03:52,387 --> 00:03:55,907 Speaker 4: something that we definitely look forward to work with them 76 00:03:56,347 --> 00:03:59,467 Speaker 4: and to make it a good atmosphere on the team 77 00:03:59,507 --> 00:04:02,667 Speaker 4: so that we can perform and eventually win sale DP. 78 00:04:03,187 --> 00:04:06,347 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was wonderful news with your team acquired by 79 00:04:06,427 --> 00:04:09,507 Speaker 2: leading sports investa American Magic co founder Doug de Vos 80 00:04:10,147 --> 00:04:14,787 Speaker 2: turns Rockwall into one of Denmark's most valuable sporting properties. 81 00:04:14,947 --> 00:04:16,867 Speaker 2: Can you tell us a bit more about the impact 82 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:19,667 Speaker 2: that you hope this new ownership will have on the team. 83 00:04:21,107 --> 00:04:24,467 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely, you know, it's definitely something new for us, 84 00:04:24,507 --> 00:04:28,067 Speaker 4: but we're keeping all the same sailors. The staff and 85 00:04:28,067 --> 00:04:31,787 Speaker 4: the coaches has changed and that's a new way of 86 00:04:32,347 --> 00:04:36,227 Speaker 4: working together. But already now we're working you know, only 87 00:04:36,267 --> 00:04:39,107 Speaker 4: one month, one and a half months, it's been. It's 88 00:04:39,147 --> 00:04:42,387 Speaker 4: been really really good with especially the structure and the 89 00:04:42,467 --> 00:04:45,307 Speaker 4: knowledge that they're coming. They have a great facility in 90 00:04:45,627 --> 00:04:48,867 Speaker 4: America that we can come and use their training base, 91 00:04:48,987 --> 00:04:52,907 Speaker 4: so everything behind it, everything that happens in the background 92 00:04:53,507 --> 00:04:57,067 Speaker 4: is now more professional. And you know, sales GP is 93 00:04:57,107 --> 00:04:59,827 Speaker 4: a league, it's one of the it is the biggest 94 00:04:59,867 --> 00:05:02,507 Speaker 4: league in sailing, and everything is changing all the time. 95 00:05:02,587 --> 00:05:05,147 Speaker 4: You really have to be on the front foot for 96 00:05:05,187 --> 00:05:07,747 Speaker 4: the changes, otherwise you you will never have a chance 97 00:05:07,787 --> 00:05:10,387 Speaker 4: to win. So that's what we're aiming to be that 98 00:05:10,467 --> 00:05:13,387 Speaker 4: we are the first movers and training as much as 99 00:05:13,467 --> 00:05:17,027 Speaker 4: possible between events because we have fourteen events, but we 100 00:05:17,107 --> 00:05:19,907 Speaker 4: actually don't have access to the boat between the events. 101 00:05:20,027 --> 00:05:22,787 Speaker 4: So to come up with ways how we can improve 102 00:05:22,987 --> 00:05:24,067 Speaker 4: is so important. 103 00:05:24,627 --> 00:05:27,307 Speaker 2: Where do you look for those improvements when you are 104 00:05:27,347 --> 00:05:30,067 Speaker 2: looking for them and there are I'm sure one hundred 105 00:05:30,147 --> 00:05:33,347 Speaker 2: different places, you know, thousands of lines of data you 106 00:05:33,387 --> 00:05:35,867 Speaker 2: could analyze. Where do you think you get the best 107 00:05:35,907 --> 00:05:38,907 Speaker 2: impact when you are looking for those improvements when you're 108 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:40,147 Speaker 2: not in the boat itself. 109 00:05:41,267 --> 00:05:42,747 Speaker 3: Oh, it's actually different areas. 110 00:05:42,867 --> 00:05:44,947 Speaker 4: I mean, we have a lot of different data points 111 00:05:44,947 --> 00:05:47,827 Speaker 4: that we look at and the thing is with sal 112 00:05:47,907 --> 00:05:50,667 Speaker 4: GPS that we share all those things. So I can 113 00:05:50,707 --> 00:05:53,027 Speaker 4: look at the British boat and thinking, okay, they came 114 00:05:53,067 --> 00:05:56,867 Speaker 4: out of the Perth events, the first season event with 115 00:05:56,947 --> 00:05:59,227 Speaker 4: a win, and of course they are right now the 116 00:05:59,227 --> 00:06:00,427 Speaker 4: benchmark to look after. 117 00:06:00,467 --> 00:06:03,667 Speaker 3: Okay, how are they doing the sailing on the water. 118 00:06:03,747 --> 00:06:06,227 Speaker 4: So I look through the videos especially to see what 119 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,027 Speaker 4: is the comms on their boat, what is the data, 120 00:06:09,067 --> 00:06:10,867 Speaker 4: how do they set up the wing, how do they 121 00:06:10,867 --> 00:06:13,347 Speaker 4: set up the rothers, how do they set up the foils. 122 00:06:13,547 --> 00:06:16,507 Speaker 4: So there is a lot of different points and like 123 00:06:16,587 --> 00:06:19,507 Speaker 4: you say, how do you choose one thing to work in? 124 00:06:19,907 --> 00:06:21,947 Speaker 4: And that's where we have, you know, such a great 125 00:06:21,947 --> 00:06:24,907 Speaker 4: team of coaches behind us. We not only have one coach, 126 00:06:24,907 --> 00:06:27,587 Speaker 4: we actually have a few coaches that is helping with 127 00:06:27,667 --> 00:06:30,747 Speaker 4: their different areas to narrow it down to each sailor 128 00:06:31,147 --> 00:06:34,747 Speaker 4: and what we can do do better, both individual but 129 00:06:34,867 --> 00:06:37,707 Speaker 4: also as a as a team. So yeah, there's a 130 00:06:37,707 --> 00:06:40,547 Speaker 4: lot of things to work on. So it's very it's 131 00:06:40,627 --> 00:06:43,667 Speaker 4: very easy to work all the time every day, but 132 00:06:43,827 --> 00:06:46,267 Speaker 4: you definitely also have to recover as an athlete. 133 00:06:46,587 --> 00:06:49,267 Speaker 2: I bet, I bet the Danish boat had one hundred 134 00:06:49,267 --> 00:06:52,267 Speaker 2: and three point eighty five kilometers per hour in August 135 00:06:52,347 --> 00:06:53,627 Speaker 2: of last year. And now I know you weren't a 136 00:06:53,667 --> 00:06:56,587 Speaker 2: board at the time, but what does that say about 137 00:06:56,587 --> 00:07:01,227 Speaker 2: the capability of these fifties and how much faster might 138 00:07:01,307 --> 00:07:01,707 Speaker 2: they go? 139 00:07:03,227 --> 00:07:05,907 Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's a it's an open question. 140 00:07:06,027 --> 00:07:07,307 Speaker 3: Is very hard for me to answer. 141 00:07:07,347 --> 00:07:09,427 Speaker 4: I mean, we're all the time pushing the limits and 142 00:07:09,827 --> 00:07:13,147 Speaker 4: going over one hundred kilometer and now it's pretty cool, 143 00:07:13,227 --> 00:07:16,067 Speaker 4: like coming in with the new tfoils that we had. 144 00:07:16,067 --> 00:07:18,867 Speaker 4: The first event last year here in Auckland was the 145 00:07:18,867 --> 00:07:22,067 Speaker 4: first event with the tfoils and obviously a lot of 146 00:07:22,267 --> 00:07:25,027 Speaker 4: things that's happened since then because we have some new 147 00:07:25,587 --> 00:07:28,067 Speaker 4: features on board that can all the time push the 148 00:07:28,107 --> 00:07:30,467 Speaker 4: limits and that's what we all want to do, you know, 149 00:07:30,587 --> 00:07:34,067 Speaker 4: especially for the spectators as well, to make it more thrilling. 150 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:38,547 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just it's I don't think there is 151 00:07:38,587 --> 00:07:39,227 Speaker 4: any limits. 152 00:07:39,267 --> 00:07:42,267 Speaker 3: We're just gonna keep pushing to go faster. 153 00:07:42,987 --> 00:07:47,067 Speaker 2: Communication is obviously key in the sport on board. What 154 00:07:47,787 --> 00:07:51,667 Speaker 2: does a perfect race sound like in terms of the communication. 155 00:07:51,867 --> 00:07:55,147 Speaker 2: Is it actually you're saying less because everything's going so well, 156 00:07:55,267 --> 00:07:57,787 Speaker 2: or is the communication is still fairly constant. 157 00:07:58,387 --> 00:08:01,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, Again, the excellent question. 158 00:08:01,347 --> 00:08:04,547 Speaker 4: If you are in front, there's normally not that much traffic, 159 00:08:04,947 --> 00:08:09,827 Speaker 4: so then the coms are less. Yeah, exactly, So you 160 00:08:09,867 --> 00:08:12,227 Speaker 4: want to be in front because then it's often a 161 00:08:12,227 --> 00:08:14,987 Speaker 4: more quiet boat. If you're in the back, it's also 162 00:08:15,187 --> 00:08:18,027 Speaker 4: a quiet boat because you're just in the back and 163 00:08:18,067 --> 00:08:19,147 Speaker 4: that nothing is happening. 164 00:08:19,747 --> 00:08:22,067 Speaker 3: If you're in the middle of the chaos, it's often 165 00:08:22,107 --> 00:08:25,347 Speaker 3: a very not stressful boat. 166 00:08:25,387 --> 00:08:27,307 Speaker 4: But there is a lot of things being said because 167 00:08:27,347 --> 00:08:30,947 Speaker 4: obviously now there's thirteen boats in the starting line, and 168 00:08:31,147 --> 00:08:33,747 Speaker 4: there's a lot going on when there's thirteen boats sailing 169 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:36,267 Speaker 4: one hundred kilometers an hour, and you don't want to. 170 00:08:36,267 --> 00:08:37,187 Speaker 3: Sail into someone. 171 00:08:37,307 --> 00:08:39,747 Speaker 4: So that's also a part of my job as a 172 00:08:39,787 --> 00:08:42,307 Speaker 4: strategist to a little goo after traffic and kind of 173 00:08:43,427 --> 00:08:45,987 Speaker 4: tack and jivee, do all the manures in the right 174 00:08:46,027 --> 00:08:48,147 Speaker 4: spot so we don't hit anyone, but also so we 175 00:08:48,187 --> 00:08:49,947 Speaker 4: get it really fast around the rececourse. 176 00:08:50,827 --> 00:08:55,227 Speaker 2: You're making decisions though an incredible speed, split second decisions. 177 00:08:56,147 --> 00:08:58,667 Speaker 2: Is that something that develops over time that you become 178 00:08:58,747 --> 00:09:03,307 Speaker 2: better in those very very small moments at decision making? 179 00:09:03,427 --> 00:09:05,427 Speaker 2: Is that something that improves over time? 180 00:09:06,627 --> 00:09:08,987 Speaker 4: Yes, of course, like just getting used to the speed 181 00:09:09,067 --> 00:09:11,387 Speaker 4: for all of us now sailing at one hundred kilometer 182 00:09:11,427 --> 00:09:15,147 Speaker 4: an hour. Yeah, I wouldn't say it feels normal, but 183 00:09:15,267 --> 00:09:17,787 Speaker 4: it's very close to feeling normal. So you get really 184 00:09:17,867 --> 00:09:21,027 Speaker 4: used to having your mindset around. You don't have a 185 00:09:21,027 --> 00:09:24,707 Speaker 4: lot of time to, for example, do a com you know, 186 00:09:24,827 --> 00:09:27,507 Speaker 4: so you don't take up the line. Only one person 187 00:09:27,587 --> 00:09:29,867 Speaker 4: can speak at a time, so it's really important that 188 00:09:29,947 --> 00:09:32,747 Speaker 4: you're very accurate, and you also say the right thing 189 00:09:32,987 --> 00:09:37,067 Speaker 4: at the right time, so so you know, you don't 190 00:09:37,067 --> 00:09:39,187 Speaker 4: take up the line so someone else can say something. 191 00:09:39,307 --> 00:09:42,507 Speaker 4: So we have developed that the last five years now 192 00:09:42,507 --> 00:09:45,747 Speaker 4: with Rock all to really just narrow down. 193 00:09:46,427 --> 00:09:48,667 Speaker 3: What's the important thing to say at the right time. 194 00:09:48,867 --> 00:09:51,907 Speaker 4: And obviously everyone is getting getting better and better and better, 195 00:09:52,107 --> 00:09:53,747 Speaker 4: and then the fact that we can learn from other 196 00:09:53,787 --> 00:09:55,227 Speaker 4: teams is pretty cool. 197 00:09:56,947 --> 00:09:59,947 Speaker 2: Yeah, just before I let you go, Emory, what are 198 00:09:59,987 --> 00:10:04,027 Speaker 2: your fondest Olympic memories? You know, four Olympic games are 199 00:10:04,147 --> 00:10:07,267 Speaker 2: middle of every color, you carry the flame and Paris 200 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:11,707 Speaker 2: for the Danish team. What are your fondest Olympic memories? 201 00:10:13,307 --> 00:10:14,587 Speaker 3: Oh, fondest. 202 00:10:15,707 --> 00:10:19,227 Speaker 4: I feel like every Olympic has been so special in 203 00:10:19,627 --> 00:10:24,227 Speaker 4: all the spots, and probably my biggest moment was when 204 00:10:24,267 --> 00:10:27,387 Speaker 4: I won gold and coming back from a very big 205 00:10:27,387 --> 00:10:30,027 Speaker 4: mistake on the second last day of Tokyo Is It's 206 00:10:30,027 --> 00:10:31,027 Speaker 4: definitely something. 207 00:10:30,747 --> 00:10:31,987 Speaker 3: That I remember forever. 208 00:10:32,707 --> 00:10:36,387 Speaker 4: I did a huge mistake, having yellow flags where you 209 00:10:36,427 --> 00:10:39,747 Speaker 4: have a punishment from the jury and then still coming 210 00:10:39,787 --> 00:10:42,907 Speaker 4: back and winning gold was very very special in a 211 00:10:42,987 --> 00:10:45,027 Speaker 4: time where it was COVID around. 212 00:10:45,067 --> 00:10:45,987 Speaker 3: There was not many. 213 00:10:45,827 --> 00:10:49,147 Speaker 4: Fans and didn't have my family there, so that was 214 00:10:49,267 --> 00:10:52,747 Speaker 4: definitely a life changing moment at that time. 215 00:10:53,667 --> 00:10:56,347 Speaker 2: I bet and many more to come, both on and 216 00:10:56,387 --> 00:10:59,347 Speaker 2: off the water. Emory, congratulations on coming back and being 217 00:10:59,347 --> 00:11:02,987 Speaker 2: a trailblazer for elite female athletes in particular and showing 218 00:11:03,027 --> 00:11:05,067 Speaker 2: that yes it doesn't matter, you can have a family 219 00:11:05,347 --> 00:11:07,707 Speaker 2: and you can still come Pete at the very highest level. 220 00:11:07,947 --> 00:11:10,427 Speaker 2: All the best across the weekend in Auckland and thank 221 00:11:10,467 --> 00:11:13,147 Speaker 2: you for joining us this afternoon for a chat. 222 00:11:13,467 --> 00:11:16,587 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, happy to join. Thank you for. 223 00:11:16,547 --> 00:11:19,707 Speaker 1: More from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live to 224 00:11:19,827 --> 00:11:23,067 Speaker 1: news talks at b Weekends from midday or follow the 225 00:11:23,107 --> 00:11:24,587 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.