1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from news talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:16,973 Speaker 2: At be mikeyd These are travel corresponding Good morning, Good 4 00:00:16,973 --> 00:00:19,973 Speaker 2: morning Jack. How are you feeling about this evening pre 5 00:00:20,373 --> 00:00:22,853 Speaker 2: a bit of a tenth week in the Crusaders camp? 6 00:00:22,893 --> 00:00:26,813 Speaker 1: Make Oh? I know, yes, I think we've all felt 7 00:00:26,853 --> 00:00:30,333 Speaker 1: like I'm indulging in a burst of fisticuffs. I'll tell 8 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:32,493 Speaker 1: you what, Jack, If we can't beat the Highlanders tonight, 9 00:00:32,493 --> 00:00:34,013 Speaker 1: I think we should take up croquet. 10 00:00:34,493 --> 00:00:39,173 Speaker 2: No, come on, come on, the Highlands are good. They've 11 00:00:39,213 --> 00:00:39,573 Speaker 2: been playing. 12 00:00:40,493 --> 00:00:41,253 Speaker 1: You really need to win. 13 00:00:41,373 --> 00:00:42,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't really need to win. I don't really 14 00:00:43,013 --> 00:00:43,413 Speaker 2: need to win. 15 00:00:43,933 --> 00:00:44,133 Speaker 1: Yeah. 16 00:00:44,173 --> 00:00:47,533 Speaker 2: Anyway, Hey, we are focusing on things further north this morning, 17 00:00:47,853 --> 00:00:50,653 Speaker 2: the bites and sights that have taken your fancy in 18 00:00:50,853 --> 00:00:53,653 Speaker 2: Toading and the city center is very much in ma 19 00:00:53,653 --> 00:00:56,213 Speaker 2: makeover mode and toding are at the moment. So how's 20 00:00:56,253 --> 00:00:56,893 Speaker 2: it shaping up? 21 00:00:58,213 --> 00:01:00,413 Speaker 1: Well, it's been three years since I was lasting tote 22 00:01:00,453 --> 00:01:02,573 Speaker 1: on a Jack, and it's just so uplifting to see 23 00:01:02,653 --> 00:01:05,093 Speaker 1: cranes in the sky. I just think that's always a 24 00:01:05,173 --> 00:01:09,533 Speaker 1: really good vibe. The glossy sheen of so many brand 25 00:01:09,653 --> 00:01:12,333 Speaker 1: new buildings in the CBD, and then you've got the 26 00:01:12,853 --> 00:01:17,973 Speaker 1: Civic Precincts wider makeover steadily taking shape. So it's all 27 00:01:18,013 --> 00:01:23,013 Speaker 1: a colossal work in progress, but some huge improvements are 28 00:01:23,053 --> 00:01:26,813 Speaker 1: already so apparent, Like the CPD just does not feel 29 00:01:27,413 --> 00:01:31,813 Speaker 1: tired or neglected or tatty anymore, and there must be 30 00:01:31,893 --> 00:01:35,693 Speaker 1: some serious mullah being invested, both privately and publicly. But 31 00:01:36,213 --> 00:01:39,093 Speaker 1: whether you're on the Strand Waterfront or if you take 32 00:01:39,093 --> 00:01:43,133 Speaker 1: a stroll down Devenport Road the main Drag, it just 33 00:01:43,253 --> 00:01:45,773 Speaker 1: feels so fresh and inviting. And the thing that really 34 00:01:45,773 --> 00:01:48,893 Speaker 1: stood out for me Jack also was the art. A 35 00:01:49,053 --> 00:01:52,653 Speaker 1: lot of installations, you know, big sculptures, and that just 36 00:01:52,973 --> 00:01:55,133 Speaker 1: sort of adds to that sense of vitality. 37 00:01:55,213 --> 00:01:56,813 Speaker 2: Oh nice. So what's recently opened? 38 00:01:58,893 --> 00:02:01,813 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the major public works in the Civic Precinct 39 00:02:01,893 --> 00:02:04,773 Speaker 1: will be sort of given staggered openings over the next 40 00:02:04,773 --> 00:02:09,133 Speaker 1: two years. But the new boy in town is Toy Toadunger, 41 00:02:09,173 --> 00:02:12,973 Speaker 1: which is the transformed art gallery that opened three months ago. 42 00:02:13,053 --> 00:02:14,733 Speaker 1: I had a look through it a couple of weeks ago. 43 00:02:14,813 --> 00:02:19,093 Speaker 1: It is just such a gorgeously refreshed space. The thing 44 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:22,613 Speaker 1: that blows you're when you first walk in is this 45 00:02:22,933 --> 00:02:27,733 Speaker 1: soaring cathedral like Atrium gallery, so it can host some 46 00:02:27,973 --> 00:02:31,973 Speaker 1: really big boy exhibitions. And they've got this quite quirky 47 00:02:32,013 --> 00:02:35,133 Speaker 1: exhibition on there at the moment. Jack. It's an augmented 48 00:02:35,173 --> 00:02:39,893 Speaker 1: reality exhibition delving into the origins of Maldi carving and 49 00:02:39,933 --> 00:02:45,053 Speaker 1: it's all been inspired by the way lavae burrow through wood. 50 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:49,613 Speaker 1: It sounds wacky, but with this ar technology they've tricked 51 00:02:49,613 --> 00:02:53,013 Speaker 1: it up with it is just so absorbing. The kids 52 00:02:53,293 --> 00:02:58,253 Speaker 1: love it. So Yeah, the city's magnificent new museum and library. 53 00:02:58,333 --> 00:03:01,333 Speaker 1: They will open and do course, but I came away thinking, gee, 54 00:03:01,413 --> 00:03:05,413 Speaker 1: next to say, post quake christ Church in terms of 55 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:09,813 Speaker 1: an urban reb build totong, it would be the next biggest, 56 00:03:10,213 --> 00:03:12,453 Speaker 1: you know, mega transformation that I can think of a 57 00:03:12,493 --> 00:03:14,653 Speaker 1: New Zealand. It really is quite colossal. 58 00:03:14,733 --> 00:03:19,213 Speaker 2: Yeah nice, Okay for a dollop of history across Tipapper Peninsula, 59 00:03:19,253 --> 00:03:20,773 Speaker 2: you've got a good walking to it to recommend. 60 00:03:22,253 --> 00:03:25,013 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I would highly recommend you spend a 61 00:03:25,013 --> 00:03:28,453 Speaker 1: few hours taking a guided hikoy with Les Millard. He 62 00:03:28,613 --> 00:03:33,693 Speaker 1: runs Mana Maldi Experiences and we just casually hopscotched our 63 00:03:33,733 --> 00:03:37,733 Speaker 1: way through a treasury of landmark sites across to Papa, 64 00:03:38,013 --> 00:03:41,933 Speaker 1: starting with the Elms Mission House, and it's incredibly gorgeous grounds. 65 00:03:42,173 --> 00:03:46,613 Speaker 1: There's just so much pre and post colonial history steeped 66 00:03:46,933 --> 00:03:51,573 Speaker 1: on that site. Obviously gate par beaches, as do all 67 00:03:51,733 --> 00:03:54,973 Speaker 1: sorts of hidden gems that Les will take you through 68 00:03:55,533 --> 00:03:59,773 Speaker 1: across the peninsula. But he's absolutely enthralling, and he just 69 00:03:59,813 --> 00:04:04,853 Speaker 1: seems to unpeel the backstory of Tapapa with such grace, 70 00:04:05,413 --> 00:04:09,493 Speaker 1: intact and what it is really I must do nice. 71 00:04:09,653 --> 00:04:12,813 Speaker 2: That sounds really good. How's the mount feeling and looking 72 00:04:12,973 --> 00:04:14,453 Speaker 2: in the wake of January's tragedy? 73 00:04:15,893 --> 00:04:19,653 Speaker 1: Yes? Well, Interestingly, Les was one of the leading elders 74 00:04:19,653 --> 00:04:23,013 Speaker 1: who led those cut here each morning during the recovery efforts. 75 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:24,613 Speaker 1: I had a really big chat to them about the 76 00:04:24,653 --> 00:04:28,493 Speaker 1: whole mount vibe, and I mean, there is no denying 77 00:04:28,573 --> 00:04:32,173 Speaker 1: that the landslide has tinged the mount with this sort 78 00:04:32,173 --> 00:04:35,333 Speaker 1: of residual ache. You kind of feel it when you 79 00:04:35,373 --> 00:04:38,133 Speaker 1: go there. There's like a heaviness, a real heavy sense 80 00:04:38,133 --> 00:04:42,453 Speaker 1: of sadness. It's still quite raw. But despite that, I mean, 81 00:04:42,493 --> 00:04:46,693 Speaker 1: it's such an irresistible pocket of New Zealand. There's no 82 00:04:47,733 --> 00:04:50,293 Speaker 1: forgetting about that. You know, it's such a blessed place 83 00:04:50,493 --> 00:04:52,653 Speaker 1: and what really struck me, Jack, when I was there 84 00:04:52,693 --> 00:04:56,733 Speaker 1: a fortnight ago. So many young international tourists who were 85 00:04:56,773 --> 00:05:00,013 Speaker 1: adding their own spontaneous tributes to that public wall of 86 00:05:00,053 --> 00:05:03,293 Speaker 1: messages just in front of the mount. So they are 87 00:05:03,333 --> 00:05:06,013 Speaker 1: struck by it. And you are really confronted when you 88 00:05:06,053 --> 00:05:11,253 Speaker 1: see up close that brutal scar at the base of Moaw, 89 00:05:12,253 --> 00:05:14,453 Speaker 1: you know where the lower slope so fatally gave way. 90 00:05:14,493 --> 00:05:19,893 Speaker 1: It is quite quite confronting. But yeah, for all the sadness, 91 00:05:20,373 --> 00:05:23,093 Speaker 1: don't forget about the mount. It is. It is an 92 00:05:23,133 --> 00:05:24,533 Speaker 1: out of the box place. Yeah. 93 00:05:24,653 --> 00:05:26,813 Speaker 2: How the businesses they're doing are they still doing it tough? 94 00:05:28,133 --> 00:05:30,173 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's something that was on my mind. And 95 00:05:30,733 --> 00:05:34,093 Speaker 1: the road excess is still restricted on parts of Adam's air, 96 00:05:34,173 --> 00:05:36,733 Speaker 1: but it is open on foot. And I was actually 97 00:05:36,773 --> 00:05:39,813 Speaker 1: quite eager to support some of those local businesses that 98 00:05:39,853 --> 00:05:43,853 Speaker 1: were so heavily impacted by the cordon. So two specimens. 99 00:05:43,933 --> 00:05:48,173 Speaker 1: I would suggest Rustica Pizzeria. They are a delight. They 100 00:05:48,213 --> 00:05:52,053 Speaker 1: have this seventy two hour Sado base anchoring their pizzas. 101 00:05:52,613 --> 00:05:54,893 Speaker 1: And I know you don't cheer my fetish for fun 102 00:05:54,933 --> 00:05:58,733 Speaker 1: guy Jack Tame, but I would highly recommend the Tatoo 103 00:05:58,773 --> 00:06:04,453 Speaker 1: Fatah pizza which is slathered in mozzarella, roasted mushrooms and 104 00:06:04,493 --> 00:06:07,693 Speaker 1: this will please use smoked Papa rica. So it's quite 105 00:06:07,693 --> 00:06:11,493 Speaker 1: a zesty pizza. And then right next door you've got 106 00:06:11,533 --> 00:06:14,693 Speaker 1: to go to Copenhagen Cones. This is that shop that 107 00:06:15,013 --> 00:06:19,933 Speaker 1: has such a seductive pull because of it's aroma of 108 00:06:19,973 --> 00:06:23,293 Speaker 1: those waffle cones. It attracts people for miles. But I 109 00:06:23,333 --> 00:06:25,933 Speaker 1: actually had a snow good the jack. I've never had 110 00:06:25,933 --> 00:06:30,693 Speaker 1: a snow gird, so that's yeah, go on, what do 111 00:06:30,693 --> 00:06:33,453 Speaker 1: you think it is? 112 00:06:33,453 --> 00:06:36,413 Speaker 2: Is it like is it like a you know, like 113 00:06:36,453 --> 00:06:39,733 Speaker 2: a crushed ice but done with yogurt. 114 00:06:40,413 --> 00:06:43,413 Speaker 1: You're nearly there. It's half snow freeze, half yogurts. 115 00:06:43,453 --> 00:06:45,533 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yeah, yeah that sounds great. 116 00:06:46,973 --> 00:06:52,053 Speaker 1: Presumably sweeter as in mine. Yeah, very sweet. 117 00:06:52,613 --> 00:06:55,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds amazing. So what would you like any 118 00:06:55,573 --> 00:06:57,693 Speaker 2: other like little spots around there for great niche. 119 00:06:58,693 --> 00:07:01,333 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things are for sheer, culinary, for 120 00:07:01,453 --> 00:07:05,413 Speaker 1: ness and theta. I would strongly suggest taking a seat 121 00:07:05,453 --> 00:07:09,213 Speaker 1: at the kitchen bar counter at Celera. They're on Manganui 122 00:07:09,373 --> 00:07:13,453 Speaker 1: Road and they're chefs. They're just wizards and they love 123 00:07:13,533 --> 00:07:17,013 Speaker 1: playing for a you know, to the audience, the chef's 124 00:07:17,053 --> 00:07:19,853 Speaker 1: men you experience at Celera. It is superb, but you've 125 00:07:19,893 --> 00:07:22,773 Speaker 1: got to go really really hungry to do it justice. 126 00:07:23,293 --> 00:07:26,333 Speaker 1: But there were some amazing dishes they served jack things 127 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:32,733 Speaker 1: like tuna capaccio with these really small icy cucumber cubes 128 00:07:32,893 --> 00:07:35,333 Speaker 1: on top of the tuna. It was amazing. And then 129 00:07:35,853 --> 00:07:39,173 Speaker 1: but a buffalo could on top of that. And also 130 00:07:39,293 --> 00:07:42,973 Speaker 1: poached at gemfish, which is probably better known as kingfish, 131 00:07:43,013 --> 00:07:47,933 Speaker 1: but gemfish with turmerica, fenela and chorizo, just really good flavors. 132 00:07:47,973 --> 00:07:49,653 Speaker 2: And is is a Kai still popular? 133 00:07:51,093 --> 00:07:53,413 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is such a cool place. And I 134 00:07:53,413 --> 00:07:57,253 Speaker 1: mean it's a village in toto On. Liz's son runs 135 00:07:57,493 --> 00:08:01,773 Speaker 1: Isakai and they have fostered such a red red hot 136 00:08:01,933 --> 00:08:08,533 Speaker 1: reputation because it's Maori Japanese fugere and quisine, and the 137 00:08:08,693 --> 00:08:12,933 Speaker 1: sheer plates are so goddamn good, things like creamed power 138 00:08:13,093 --> 00:08:18,533 Speaker 1: and prawn dumplings with cauliflower, puro crispy Charlotte spring onions 139 00:08:18,533 --> 00:08:21,173 Speaker 1: and chili. It is just fabulous. 140 00:08:21,613 --> 00:08:24,813 Speaker 2: That sounds fantastic. Okay, great, Hey, thank you very much, Mike. 141 00:08:24,933 --> 00:08:27,373 Speaker 2: Really really good to have those tips for Mike's Top 142 00:08:27,413 --> 00:08:30,133 Speaker 2: Bites and sites. And toading, and will make sure that 143 00:08:30,573 --> 00:08:32,973 Speaker 2: all of his tips and advice and hot spots are 144 00:08:33,053 --> 00:08:33,813 Speaker 2: up on the News Talks. 145 00:08:33,813 --> 00:08:37,893 Speaker 1: He'd be website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 146 00:08:38,053 --> 00:08:41,253 Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, 147 00:08:41,493 --> 00:08:43,493 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio