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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage like no

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Speaker 1: one else.

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Speaker 2: News Dog's Heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today. The government

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Speaker 3: is apparently planning another tax, this one on farmers. Will

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Speaker 3: get you across the details. Wellington Mayor Andrew Little on

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Speaker 3: all the other Wellington councils starting to get a little

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Speaker 3: bit weird about paying to repair the sewage plant, and

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Speaker 3: Rocket Labs got permission to send ten times more rockets

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Speaker 3: up into space.

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Speaker 2: Will have a chat to them, Heather duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, in the space of less than one day, a

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Speaker 3: coroner has called for regulations to make corded blinds safe

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Speaker 3: for toddlers. The family of a little girl who died

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Speaker 3: in one of these blinds has backed up that call,

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Speaker 3: and then the government has said no, there will be

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Speaker 3: no regulation. Thing has done on lesson a day. This,

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Speaker 3: by the way, if you don't know what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 3: this is a parent's worst nightmare, isn't it. It's the

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Speaker 3: idea that something in the house that seemingly innocuous kills

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Speaker 3: your child. The corded blinds, you know, and you've got

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Speaker 3: the blind, and you've got the loopy court. What sometimes

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Speaker 3: happens is that and that's the one with the kind

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Speaker 3: of the little bubbles on it, the round bits. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: what happens is the kids get themselves stuck in it

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Speaker 3: and they can't get themselves out, and freaks me out

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Speaker 3: the thought of that happening so much so that I've

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Speaker 3: already gone around adding cliques to the windows to make

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Speaker 3: the blind safe, And after hearing the coroner's report out today,

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Speaker 3: I double checked every blind just to be sure. Again.

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Speaker 3: I cannot imagine how awful this tragedy is for this family,

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Speaker 3: and I do realize that they have the best intentions

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Speaker 3: in mind, they have the best of intentions and trying

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Speaker 3: to stop this from happening to another family like it

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Speaker 3: has to them. But I think the governments actually come

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Speaker 3: down on the right side of this, because, as we've

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Speaker 3: discussed so often on this show, it is just too

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Speaker 3: easy to write a new rule without perhaps realizing what

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Speaker 3: the unintended consequences of that will be for years, potentially

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Speaker 3: before some other government finally repeals decades later, Like the

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Speaker 3: well meaning rules around apple trees in early childhood centers.

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Speaker 3: They caused all kinds of headaches. Actually, safety, i would argue,

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Speaker 3: is something that parents shouldn't be outsourcing to rules. Blinds

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Speaker 3: are not the only thing in your house that can

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Speaker 3: hurt your toddler. Heavy furniture that's at risk of falling

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Speaker 3: over should be bracketed back so it doesn't fall on

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Speaker 3: the kids. Pools should be fenced off for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 3: Knife draws should be locked for obvious reasons. Hard edges

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Speaker 3: should have soft things put on them. You can go online.

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Speaker 3: You can find a list of the things that you

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Speaker 3: should do. There are plenty of these lists out there,

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Speaker 3: and then you go through every single one and make

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Speaker 3: your house safer, which you should do. You can buy

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Speaker 3: cleats to fix the blind card to the wall, and

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Speaker 3: you should so the fixers out there. The knowledge is

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Speaker 3: out there in the information age. Do you still need

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Speaker 3: a rule ever?

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Speaker 2: Dup c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is the text number. Standard texts apply

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Speaker 3: and Graham Rowse of Window Treatments will talk us through

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Speaker 3: what he thinks when he's with us. After half past five,

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Speaker 3: now here we go. New Zealand First has announced it's

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Speaker 3: going to campaign for a referendum on the Malori electorate seats.

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Speaker 3: The party says with MMP the seats are no longer

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Speaker 3: needed for Maori representation and the Malori Party's behavior over

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Speaker 3: the last few years been the last straw. New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First leader Winston Peters is with us now, Hi, Winston, Hello,

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Speaker 3: is this a bottom line?

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Speaker 5: Look, we don't do bottom lines. What we're saying is

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Speaker 5: to the people out there. When we made this commitment,

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Speaker 5: first of all, we were ninety percent of the polls

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Speaker 5: in Labor fall into twenty. We were overtaking labor and

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Speaker 5: we knew we could deliver it. But then of course

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Speaker 5: they went off and voted for descender as in a

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Speaker 5: so called disinder Mania campaign, and we lost the chance.

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Speaker 5: But we're saying to voters, not matter of bottom line,

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Speaker 5: it's if you want this change, vote for New Zealand

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Speaker 5: person in this campaign.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So how big do you have to be relative

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: As I say, when we made that promise, we can

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Speaker 5: knew when Talbot Mills, When Talbot Mills came in one

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Speaker 5: night and said, you guys are on nineteen, they're on twenty,

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Speaker 5: we knew we could deliver these things. But see how

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Speaker 5: things change. And of course you had a very biased

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Speaker 5: mainstream media, many generated by women who were descended pro

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Speaker 5: Whether she had the ability or not, they were screaming

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Speaker 5: one of the change from Andrew Little to Cinder Durn

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Speaker 5: that the Cinder many had broken out. How fiction that was,

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Speaker 5: as you will know. Did you try me when the

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Speaker 5: ends Heire left being the leader? He was on thirty

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Speaker 5: five when she'd finished with the straight campaign. She only

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Speaker 5: got to thirty seven. So that's my point about how

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Speaker 5: you lose the edge and we're staying out to the

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Speaker 5: New Zealanders. Don't ask me to be a bottom line.

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Speaker 5: You give me the tools and we'll finish.

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Speaker 3: The job, okay, just so that we can get the

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Speaker 3: historical record correct. Did you try in the coalition negotiations

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Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen to get it across the line.

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Speaker 5: We talked to him about it, Yes, we did, and

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Speaker 5: did they say no? And I just said, I'm just

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Speaker 5: telling you right now that their play said I didn't

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Speaker 5: raise it. Isn't it amazing? Because when they're saying that,

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Speaker 5: I've got an article in front of me that says

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Speaker 5: that they did mention it to us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's all there. The reason I'm saying I won't

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Speaker 3: be the only voter who's skeptical about this is because

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Speaker 3: you yourself have promised it in twenty seventeen, didn't get

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Speaker 3: it across the line, didn't deliver it, didn't John Key

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Speaker 3: also campaign on it and then not end up doing it.

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Speaker 3: It just feels like it's one of those things that

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Speaker 3: that has always put out they're in a campaign, but

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Speaker 3: then once it actually comes to the showdown, nobody does it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 5: Really, I'm the guy a campaign for MMP and that

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Speaker 5: changed dramatically and there was a referendum to one three

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Speaker 5: and by mind ninety nine six you had MMP see

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Speaker 5: the difference and they promised under MP at the time

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Speaker 5: that would prove to Maraw we didn't need the Mara seats.

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Speaker 5: Bad time has well and truly come. But the performance

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Speaker 5: of late of the taparty Mara and their scathing decision

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Speaker 5: not if you've been part of the system. That is

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Speaker 5: they're defending seats when they don't want to income to parliament,

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Speaker 5: they want a separate parliament. And alongside that you saw

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Speaker 5: the way they treated Pinna Hennah are getting cheated massively

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Speaker 5: in his seat in the twenty twenty three election. All

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Speaker 5: the things in an alignment, there is no need anymore

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Speaker 5: for the Mara seats.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, so I don't know if you answer my

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Speaker 3: question as to whether it's a bottom line or not.

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Speaker 5: Well, I said to you know you're saying it's the

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Speaker 5: bottom line? Is I don't give you the tools. How

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Speaker 5: can it be a bottom line? If you walk in

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Speaker 5: there with not enough boats, you're not going to be

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Speaker 5: able to get there. If you walk into the stacker boats,

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Speaker 5: it's all over rover.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to have any bottom lines?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Will this be one of them?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 5: I'm going to become the minister, the Minister for broadcasting,

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Speaker 5: and what are you going to do to me? So

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Speaker 5: you're okay, but it's mainstream media. I'm going to fix

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Speaker 5: up because they're pack of biased, bigger than.

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Speaker 3: People serious seriously for broadcasting.

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Speaker 8: Hang on, that's the reason why.

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Speaker 5: And they're going to start being responsible to the New

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Speaker 5: zeal taxpayer's paying for them and not making up the

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Speaker 5: whole scenarios that go along. Am I being responsible?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 8: I am?

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Speaker 3: No, No, No, I didn't ask if you're being responsible?

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Speaker 3: I asked if you're being serious, like this is going

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Speaker 3: to be a bottom line to be the Minister of Broadcasting.

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Speaker 5: Well, I thought you'd be kicking up for me.

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Speaker 8: Everyone.

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Speaker 3: Can you get rid of the BSA, because.

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Speaker 5: Because the BSA have totally lost their understanding of what

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Speaker 5: their responsibilities are, there's no reason to get rid of

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Speaker 5: the BSA.

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Speaker 8: Get rid of the people.

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Speaker 5: Who on the BSA.

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Speaker 8: That's how you hand.

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Speaker 5: Don't get rid of way, don't get rid of a

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Speaker 5: tool that's been part of our order of civilization just

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Speaker 5: because some people decide that they don't want to response.

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Speaker 3: Well, we can have a debate. We can have a

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Speaker 3: debate about whether you should have a BSA when you

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Speaker 3: can only actually control domestic media and most of us

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Speaker 3: are consuming so much international media. But but but I'm

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Speaker 3: interesting and I'm pleased to hear this from you. But

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Speaker 3: listen before you go and ask you about this water

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Speaker 3: tax business in the RMA.

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Speaker 2: You cross this, Well, what do you mean what?

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Speaker 3: Well, apparently, according to Federative Farmers, they have gone through

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop's RM and there's a water tax in there.

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Speaker 3: And apparently, e we have an exemption. Are you aware

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Speaker 5: Of half of that Gary exemption, I've always been aware

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Speaker 5: of as to the overacity of the other part that

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Speaker 5: the pedervative farmers are talking about. Let me take that

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, call, I'll leave that with you. Winston, thanks

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Speaker 3: very much, appreciate it's Winston, Peter's New Zealand first party leader.

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Speaker 3: I'll run you through that detail in the TICH because

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is cool. Off the back of

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Speaker 3: the gas tax to find out there's now a water

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Speaker 3: tax as well over in Britain. Just want to get

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Speaker 3: you across this. Britain's richest man, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, has

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Speaker 3: given what is undoubtedly going to be a very controversial

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Speaker 3: interview to Sky News in which he says Britain has

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Speaker 3: been colonized by immigrants who are costing too much money

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Speaker 3: and to Brady, our UK correspondent, who's not short of

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Speaker 3: an opinion, will be with us quarter to seven and

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Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to him about that. Quarter past four.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Dupis Allen Drive Full Show.

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Speaker 3: Here the water more on how do people vote for

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Speaker 3: Winstant Well you say that, and yet I think you

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Speaker 3: might find he becomes very popular. Eighteen past four.

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Speaker 3: Narcy Watergrave sports talk hosters of me, Hello, does he.

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Speaker 9: I honor someone who invited for Winston because they are

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Speaker 9: really impressed with the gold card they got.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he go.

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Speaker 9: Same woman said to me, well, you know he's quite

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Speaker 9: funny too, am Like you go, you vote where you vote.

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Speaker 8: At least she voted.

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Speaker 3: He's not still there because he's rubbish at what he does.

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Speaker 3: Now the all Ways are going to play England.

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Speaker 8: No, how good is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And when obviously well.

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Speaker 9: No, but it's only a week before the World Cup

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Speaker 12: Most said that without laughing, But you gave yourself awake.

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Speaker 11: My suspicion is it wouldn't have mattered when we announced this.

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Speaker 3: Asking these questions.

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Speaker 11: We should be asking these questions.

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Speaker 1: The name you truffed to get the answers you need,

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Speaker 3: How many New Zealand children have been killed by blinds

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly alarming to find clauses give ministers sweeping powers

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop's office has just given us the yes, they're

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Speaker 3: We'll have a chat to him. Went to Lord last night.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Little, Wellington mayor on what a kerfuffle this is

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Speaker 3: at five ten, Here's Lord Thea, here's this next.

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Speaker 2: Let me live that fantasy.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

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Speaker 3: Where the World Cup winners in nineteen sixty seven in

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Speaker 3: Scotland beat them, So there's always hope, Stephen. Imagine if

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks, 'd be Drive.

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Speaker 3: Police in Canada have revised the death toll of the

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Speaker 3: And Finally, archaeologists in Norman have found evidence that people

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Speaker 3: The researchers have been studying the teeth from a Neolithic

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Speaker 1: Yum International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 4: For good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Now it's on for tomorrow morning?

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Speaker 4: Is it sure? Is nine o'clock? The Liberals will go

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Speaker 4: that will vote on the leadership, twenty eight MP's twenty

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Speaker 4: Here's the image of a right wing fifty nine year

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Speaker 4: it's a choicement. And you know already Angus Taylor is

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Speaker 3: no one's really got the numbers to be able to

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Speaker 3: be sure of themselves.

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Speaker 4: Very close, very close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So surely, though, if you're going to go through

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Speaker 3: this drama in public, you're going to pick Angus Taylor

447
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Speaker 3: because otherwise you're just going to have to go through

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Speaker 3: this drama all over again some other time and get

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Speaker 3: rid of her.

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Speaker 4: It's terrible, isn't it. I mean, it's just it's like

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Speaker 4: it's like the Marx Brothers are running this, you know,

452
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Speaker 4: or Donald Duck or someone. It's just it's just bizarre.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like it. I dare say no

454
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Speaker 4: one else's watched politics over here has ever seen anything

455
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Speaker 4: like it either. It's just as shambles. The last time

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Speaker 4: these two stood up Lee and Taylor, she won by

457
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Speaker 4: twenty nine votes to twenty five. Taylor's put out a

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Speaker 4: video this morning. He's in a white shirt with the

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Speaker 4: sleeves rolled up, and you know there's a paddock behind him.

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Speaker 4: He's a country He's a country member from New South Wales.

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Speaker 4: You know, Australia's in trouble. He says, Labour's got you.

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Speaker 4: Failed government, Liberal parties lost its way and I'm here

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Speaker 4: to help. Well. You know, there's lots of comments on

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Speaker 4: the bottom of this video that he's released, quote fantastic,

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Speaker 4: great move, well done Angus under quote. But that's his

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Speaker 4: most famous gaff. It's what he wrote himself by accident,

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Speaker 4: on his own social media account, after he posted about

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Speaker 4: something he had done. He said, fantastic, great move, well

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Speaker 4: done Angus. Well, is this the guy you want? Is

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Speaker 4: the alternate Prime Minister for God's sake, really well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean laughable, laughable.

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Speaker 3: The pickle they find themselves in. Now, I see the

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Speaker 3: Israeli presidents off to Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: Yet he's arrived in Melbourne. That's right. He's a Government

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Speaker 4: house this afternoon. Very few details, as you might expect,

476
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Speaker 4: of his itinerary have been publicly released, but they did

477
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Speaker 4: go to the campus of Melbourne University and get rid

478
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Speaker 4: of some graffiti that called for the death of herself

479
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Speaker 4: has been strayed on a wall. He's given an interview

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Speaker 4: I think the Channel seven over here, and he was

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Speaker 4: talking about an Australian look a frightening level of anti Semitism.

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Speaker 4: But he said, look, most Australians, as you and I

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Speaker 4: both know most Keywis, would be very broadly supportive of

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Speaker 4: Jewish people. You might not like the policies of the

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Speaker 4: Israeli government, but that doesn't make you any Semitic. You know,

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Speaker 4: you can support, love and poach your arms around Jewish people,

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Speaker 4: particularly the poor buggersy lost people at Bondi Beach. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, but it's been a very controversial visit. As

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Speaker 4: we know. We had the appalling scenes on Monday night

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Speaker 4: in Sydney and the streets of CBD. Sydney called for

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Speaker 4: a very urgent inquiry into the level of violence meeting

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Speaker 4: out by police. I mean the Lord Mayor of Sydney

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Speaker 4: is saying it was just disgraceful, very disturbing, vision, unhinged,

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Speaker 4: say critics, far too aggressive. So look a political mess

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Speaker 4: for the government. But Albaneze, sticking to a script saying

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Speaker 4: so I was welcome, was here to support the Jewish

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Speaker 4: people of Sydney and Australia who were grieving the loss

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Speaker 4: of those people at Bondai Beach Mas.

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Speaker 3: What's this business with the serial rapist? How'd they find them?

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Speaker 4: Extraordinary stuff? This basically it's advanced level DNA. I looked

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Speaker 4: it up just ten minutes ago. The first time DNA

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Speaker 4: was used and to catch and prosecute successfully a sexual

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Speaker 4: offender was the late nineteen eighties, about forty years ago.

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Speaker 4: And that's what they've done now they've used that original DNA,

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Speaker 4: but they've tracked down this fellow is a seventy seven

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Speaker 4: year old guy and it's alleged he was sexually assaulting

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Speaker 4: young girls thirty years ago. The case was opened by

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Speaker 4: cold case police here in Sydney in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: So these crimes go back thirty years. What they basically

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Speaker 4: do when police look at DNA traditionally you look at

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Speaker 4: twenty one separate strands or markers they usually examined for

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Speaker 4: DNA screening. Police have used a new technique that basically

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Speaker 4: allows them to search hundreds of thousands of DNA markers,

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Speaker 4: which can then be ideed as far removed as people

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Speaker 4: who are fourth cousins. Wow, so they've put all this

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Speaker 4: I guess they're using AI. They've put all this through

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Speaker 4: the computer system compares DNA records against public genealogy data bases,

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Speaker 4: said Bingo. He's a guy who's a relative of the

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Speaker 4: accused fellow who went knocked on his door and now

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Speaker 4: he's in custody accused of a ten or eleven separate

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Speaker 4: sexual crimes. As I say, going back many many years.

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Speaker 4: Basically it's DNA testing on steroids.

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Speaker 3: Interesting muzz, thanks very much appreciated. Man, Look at yourself.

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Speaker 3: Murriold's Australia correspondent seventeen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for Cela.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if Angus Taylor is

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Speaker 3: half good at this, if he actually does take the

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Speaker 3: leadership over there, because I mean, he's one of those

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Speaker 3: characters at Fantastic CV, like Fantastic CV pre politics. Right

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Speaker 3: as muzz was saying, went to the Right School's Rhodes

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Speaker 3: Scholar management consultant sign of one of the New South

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Speaker 3: Wales Monaro regions founding families. Looks like a young Kennedy.

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Speaker 3: People said that he gets in there and then he's

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Speaker 3: a bit you know, well, a bit disappointing, but we'll

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Speaker 3: see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Weird thing is happening at Western Springs in Auckland at

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Speaker 3: the minute, which is that the scientists are putting electrocolorants

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Speaker 3: into the water basically trying to shock the fish. I

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Speaker 3: want to shock the fish because I want to stun

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Speaker 3: the gold fish and the turtles in there. And then

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Speaker 3: when they're stunned, I'm assuming that sort of float around

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Speaker 3: and then the scientists come along and whip them out

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Speaker 3: with the nets and then brutally take them away and

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Speaker 3: kill them because they're exotic, so they're basically pests and

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Speaker 3: they're killing all the native stuff. Anyway, Apparently it turns

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Speaker 3: out that the reason that they're in there is because

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Speaker 3: somebody had goldfish in their house, and somebody had turtles,

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Speaker 3: but apparently it's where people go to dump their pets.

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Speaker 3: So you got the gold You thought it was a

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Speaker 3: great idea to get the goldfish for the kids, maybe

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Speaker 3: a little turtle, and then you go, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to have to look after this anymore, but also don't

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Speaker 3: want to have to kill it, so you take it

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Speaker 3: down to Western Springs and it goes into the water. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: there is a question to ask you about the fish, though,

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Speaker 3: which is if you have a fish in your house,

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Speaker 3: why it's like a parrot, isn't it. It was cool

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Speaker 3: in the nineteen eighties, Like if you had a fish

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Speaker 3: tank with a fish in it in the nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 3: or a parrot sit in there going making all the

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Speaker 3: weird noises, that was cool. But it's twenty two. I

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Speaker 3: just don't feel like that's a vibe anymore, you know,

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Speaker 3: So maybe we can just knock that one on the head,

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Speaker 3: as it turns out. Literally anyway, we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: to the scientists about that in half an hour. Barry

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Speaker 3: Soap is next quarter too.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics, credit check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Minister Chris Bishop is going to be with us after

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Speaker 3: five o'clock answer questions about whether there is a secret

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Speaker 3: little water tax in his army reform there for the farmers.

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Speaker 3: It's twelve away from five and with us now, as

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent, High Barry.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: He won't be taxed.

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Speaker 3: Oh that'll make everything okay exactly. So is it the

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Speaker 3: case that Jerry has been filing his information incorrectly to

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Speaker 3: Parliament for twenty years?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 15: Apparently. Look, he's got half a dozen hours is worth

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Speaker 15: about six million dollars, and he hasn't filled out the

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Speaker 15: Pecuniary Interests Register the way it should have been filled out,

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Speaker 15: like late last year for example, he there was questions

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Speaker 15: asked about it and Brownlee I ended sixteen of the

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Speaker 15: twenty annual declarations that he had made. But the thing

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Speaker 15: is that these declarations are so important for MPs because

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Speaker 15: they have to be seen at arm's length from legislation

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Speaker 15: that's passed through the House. One person that it really

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Speaker 15: doesn't affect, ironically, is Jerry Brownley himself. He's the Speaker,

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Speaker 15: so he has nothing to do with legislation anyway, so

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Speaker 15: it's less important than it would be maybe for other MPs,

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Speaker 15: although he made mistakes earlier on as well. But the

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Speaker 15: point that he made was he made no attempt to

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Speaker 15: hide anything, and knowing Jerry as I do, I'm pretty

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Speaker 15: sure there would be nothing easy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't sound it doesn't sound like it

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Speaker 3: because he was making some basic mistakes like riding the

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Speaker 3: house claiming the house was in the wrong subjects should

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Speaker 3: have got this rock album would have been okay then yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Now Winston, I noticed, would not make getting rid of

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Speaker 3: the Maldi seats of bottom line, which makes me suspicious

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Speaker 3: about whether he actually is just going to campaign on

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Speaker 3: something here and then never do it.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's great, yeah, you know, you can imagine there

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Speaker 15: will be quite a.

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Speaker 8: Lot of popularity given what the Maldi.

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Speaker 15: Party has been doing in Parliament to get rid of

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Speaker 15: these seats, because they've served absolutely no purpose over the

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Speaker 15: past two years in parliament. Nothing, They've done nothing in.

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Speaker 3: The House, hardly than there no, well, that's that's you know.

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Speaker 15: The point that Winston makes is that we've currently have

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Speaker 15: a record number of Maldi in Parliament and in cabinet.

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Speaker 15: Twenty seven percent of the MP's in Parliament have some

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Speaker 15: sort of Maldi lineage. So he said that that's far

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Speaker 15: higher than the claim seventeen percent of Maori living in

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Speaker 15: the country, so they're over represented in the House.

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Speaker 3: They say dedicated, which is to say, you don't if

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Speaker 3: you're getting if you're actually you don't need assistance, right,

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Speaker 3: you don't need special help because you're actually standing on

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Speaker 3: your own two feet. But do you think that if

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Speaker 3: he gets in there, he's actually going to do it

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Speaker 3: because last time he didn't.

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Speaker 15: Well, the thing is, Heather that you also don't need

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Speaker 15: I thought they were entrenched, but they're not. They're not entrenched.

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Speaker 15: Doesn't let us, which means that you'd have as seventy

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Speaker 15: five percent vote in favor of getting.

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Speaker 4: Rid of them. You don't.

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Speaker 15: Winston could go into the House before the election if

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Speaker 15: he wanted to and promote legislation to get rid of

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Speaker 15: the Malordi seats, and it just takes a simple.

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Speaker 3: This is something you need to mandate for Well, you can't,

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Speaker 3: it's too big, you can't.

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Speaker 15: I mean, there was an attempt by Labor to entrench them.

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Speaker 15: There was an attempt this year by the Green Yes

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Speaker 15: to entrench the Malory seats. Yeah, they haven't been so

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Speaker 15: just a simple vote would do.

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Speaker 3: It okay, cool listen. So the Retail Crime Advisory Group

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Speaker 3: came up again that they did it well.

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Speaker 15: Yes, of course, and it's going to come up forever

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Speaker 15: in a day. But there was a bit drama in

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Speaker 15: the House this afternoon as Labour's Ginny Anderson lined up

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Speaker 15: to take pot shots at the Police minister. Only trouble

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Speaker 15: war that Mark Mitchell wasn't in the house today. His

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Speaker 15: place was taken by the Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith, who

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Speaker 15: happily defended the police's frontline officers with a bit of

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Speaker 15: help from New Zealand First Shane Jones.

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Speaker 16: Behalf of the minister. Yes, and in particular my statement

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Speaker 16: our police do an outstanding job.

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Speaker 4: Be honorable change jes.

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Speaker 17: Does the Minister envisage a time when the police frontline

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Speaker 17: will be used in moving out the monolors, the criminals,

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Speaker 17: the gangs, the layabouts and the vagrants black in Queen

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Speaker 17: Street on behalf of the Minister.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I can anticipate that time.

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Speaker 11: Has he considered offering frontline police the same daily rate

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Speaker 11: as sunny kosherl nine hundred and twenty dollars a day

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Speaker 11: in the.

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Speaker 3: Next police pay round, If not.

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Speaker 16: Why not on behalf of the minister. I won't indulge

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Speaker 16: in the member's petty games, but I will focus on

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Speaker 16: the outcomes. And the outcomes is that in this kind,

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Speaker 16: right here, right now, there are thirty eight thousand fewer

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Speaker 16: victims of violent crime.

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Speaker 15: So there you have us.

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Speaker 3: He was enjoying it a Barry Thanks very much, Barry

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Speaker 3: so Over, Senior political correspondent, seven away from five. Heather,

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Speaker 3: I'm a conservative voter, Eileen, right, the left and the

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Speaker 3: mainstream media are pushing me further and further to the right.

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Speaker 3: Luxon is a globalist. So Winston, looking to abolish the

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Speaker 3: Maori seats and wanting the broadcasting portfolio actually gives me

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Speaker 3: a party to vote for, Heather. The last thing we

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Speaker 3: need is more he cooys and disharmony in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: It's the worst I've seen it now in my fifty

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Speaker 3: four years. And that's from us. Yeah, we'll have a

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Speaker 3: chat about this with I mean, look, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: What Winston is proposing is undoubtedly going to be popular

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Speaker 3: amongst conservative voters, right getting rid of the Malory seats,

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Speaker 3: because I mean people like John Key saw it and

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Speaker 3: campaigned on it as well. Way back when the question

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Speaker 3: is simply whether you actually believe that he's going to

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Speaker 3: follow through on it, and I think there is a

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Speaker 3: big question mark around that. Anyway, we'll have a chat

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Speaker 3: to the huddle about it. Mark Sainsbury, Thomas Scrimser will

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Speaker 3: bear thus later on. Hither my ten year old and

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Speaker 3: my twenty one year old have both recently bought fish tanks.

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Speaker 3: The daughter has a pretty fish and the sun has

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Speaker 3: a shark. So maybe this is all making a comeback.

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Speaker 3: Maybe actually, maybe it is. I'll tell you what. My brother,

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Speaker 3: who's he's one of those guys who he's living his

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Speaker 3: best life in Auckland, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like he's just having a great time and just doing

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Speaker 3: all the things that the cool kids are doing. Superical,

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Speaker 3: just superical. He bought himself a fish tank, and he

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Speaker 3: bought two of those clownfish, you know, the ones like Nemo.

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Speaker 3: He bought two of them, and then they have But

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Speaker 3: if you have a clownfish, you have to have an

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Speaker 3: anemone with it. Apparently, because I don't know this, some

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Speaker 3: sort of like rubbing thing that the fish has to

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Speaker 3: rub on the anemony or something like that. Anyway, it

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Speaker 3: got a bit fraught because the first he had one clownfish,

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Speaker 3: and then the clownfish got lonely, so then he had

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Speaker 3: to buy a second clownfish to keep it company. But

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Speaker 3: then they didn't like each other and they were having

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Speaker 3: so many fights that one of the clownfish actually launched

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Speaker 3: itself out of the fish tank and killed itself like

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Speaker 3: it's suicided, because it hated the other clownfish so much.

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Speaker 3: I have never seen my brother, who has no children

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Speaker 3: and is not married, more stressed out and anxious about

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Speaker 3: us situation. So all I'm saying is, if you're going

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Speaker 3: to get yourself a fish tank, you want to think

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Speaker 3: about this long and hard. Chris Bishops with Us.

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Speaker 1: Next, the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, get the answers, find and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy El and Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: the power of satellite mobile news dogs There be afternoon.

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Speaker 3: There is concern being raised about another tax planned by

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Speaker 3: this government. This time it is a water tax on farmers.

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Speaker 3: Federated Farmers has spent the summer reading through the government's

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Speaker 3: planned RMA laws and has found that the law gives

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Speaker 3: ministers the power to implement this water tax. The minister

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Speaker 3: responsible for the RMA reformers, Chris Bishop ie bish good eight.

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you. Are you planning to tax this

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Speaker 3: the farmers with the water tax?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely not. I can categorically rule out for you heither

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Speaker 12: that we'll be taxing water or putting in place of

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Speaker 12: water tax for farmers or anything like that. That is

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Speaker 12: not government policy. We will not be doing that, So

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Speaker 12: I can categorically raw that out for you.

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Speaker 3: Federated Farmers says it is there in black and white

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Speaker 3: in the legislation. So if you're not planning on doing it,

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Speaker 3: why is it in the legislation.

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Speaker 12: I don't really agree with their characterization of it, but

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Speaker 12: I accept that that's their view. And look, that's why

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Speaker 12: we sent the bill to a slect committee. So if

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Speaker 12: we need to change things in the Slect committee, we

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Speaker 12: absolutely will do that. And it's pretty clear from Federative

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Speaker 12: Farmers and a few others actually saying the same thing

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Speaker 12: as well that the policy intents not there. So we'll

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Speaker 12: have a good look at it through the committee and

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Speaker 12: make changes. We're months away from passing the bill into law,

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Speaker 12: so but I just want to reassure your listeners tonight, Heather,

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Speaker 12: that we will not be introducing a water tax that

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Speaker 12: is not government policy.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure this is going to reassure a lot of farmers.

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Speaker 3: How did it get in there? This was this federated

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Speaker 3: farmers reckons. This was slipped through by the officials. Is

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Speaker 3: that what happened?

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Speaker 12: I don't think that's a fair characterization of it. I mean,

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Speaker 12: there's a there's a mechanism in the bill around you know,

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Speaker 12: how you set up local catchments for example, and you

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Speaker 12: know regional ways of managing water, which which happens now.

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Speaker 12: To be honest, you know, we've got catchment groups up

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Speaker 12: and down the country, and there'll be farmers listening who

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Speaker 12: have their own kind of collaborative catchment groups which who actually,

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Speaker 12: frankly do an amazing job of looking after our.

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Speaker 2: Natural resources as well.

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Speaker 12: So there's a bit of stuff in there around that.

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Speaker 12: But you know, we're going to we can get through

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Speaker 12: the Sleet Committee and make it really clear that we

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Speaker 12: won't be putting in place a water tax.

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Speaker 3: Just explain to me though, right Their interpretation of it

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Speaker 3: is that the water tax is there to be able,

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Speaker 3: the trigger is able to be pulled by ministers on

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Speaker 3: farmers with an exemption for EWI. Now that seems like

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Speaker 3: a reasonably thought out plan there. So how did this

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Speaker 3: come to be in a piece of legislation that you've

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Speaker 3: gone yep thumbs up to.

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Speaker 12: Well, there's a provision in there to allow it to

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Speaker 12: be turned on into the future as the government did

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Speaker 12: policy work around that, and I can tell you that

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Speaker 12: we're not doing a policy work on our water tax

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Speaker 12: and we won't be doing it. So if we need

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Speaker 12: to take it out of it, if we need to

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Speaker 12: take it out of the bill at the Sleek Committee,

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Speaker 12: we can do it.

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Speaker 3: You guys are a government who have campaigned on not

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Speaker 3: increasing taxes. This is your core voter base, the farmers.

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Speaker 3: But on top of that, you've also made it pretty

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Speaker 3: clear that you think everybody should be treated equally, right,

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Speaker 3: So how did you come to putting a provision in

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Speaker 3: that could potentially tax farmers in the future with an

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Speaker 3: exemption for EWEI.

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Speaker 12: I don't think that's a fair characterization of what's in

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Speaker 12: the bill at the moment, but I accept Federated Farmers

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Speaker 12: have that view and lock there's a we can get

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Speaker 12: through this, and absolutely we we'll be making clear through

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Speaker 12: the Select Committee and through the other side when we

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Speaker 12: passed the bill into law, that that won't be you know,

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Speaker 12: that won't be the status quo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, bish, thank you for your time. It's Chris Bishop,

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Speaker 3: the RMA Reform Minister. I don't know if you realize

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Speaker 3: how quickly this has played out. That federatid Farmers put

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Speaker 3: out this press release at three o'clock this afternoon, it

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Speaker 3: was just just after three. Two hours later, Government is

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Speaker 3: shutting it down on the radio. So that's that's a

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Speaker 3: pretty quick turnaround from this government.

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Speaker 2: Ten past five together, dupless Ellen all.

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Speaker 3: Right to Wellington. So it seems that councils around the

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Speaker 3: Wellington region don't seem terribly keen on stumping up cash

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Speaker 3: to help Wellington City fix the broken More Points sewage plant.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, Wellington Water is owned and funded by

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Speaker 3: the Wellington the Hut, the Upper Hut, the Portado and

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Speaker 3: the cull wided Up and Greater Wellington Regional Councils, but

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Speaker 3: already South wided Up as mayor has set a hard

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Speaker 3: no and the other three mayors and non commissial. Andrew

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Speaker 3: Little is the Mayor of Wellington and he's with us now, Hi, Andrew,

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Speaker 3: should they help you pay?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm not quite sure what they're getting anxious about.

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Speaker 18: The way we willing to water works is each of

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Speaker 18: the councils who works for puts in a capital fund

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Speaker 18: at the beginning of each year with an expectation about

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Speaker 18: particular work that's going to be done. We've done that

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Speaker 18: and there's a little bit of money left over, so

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Speaker 18: that might go into the plant. But at the end

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Speaker 18: of the day, my point, plant belongs to Willington City Council.

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Speaker 18: It's our responsibility. We need to get it fixed and

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Speaker 18: up and running. We don't want to quibble about who's

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Speaker 18: paying and assurance and all that sort of stuff at

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Speaker 18: this point, at right now, recovery is priority in we

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Speaker 18: go to get it fixed and that's what we will do,

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Speaker 18: and we'll sort out the arrangements for pay for it when.

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Speaker 3: We have to sort out the arrangements with who.

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Speaker 18: With running in the water and or it's the it's

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Speaker 18: replacement or or US and various parties insurance. You know,

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Speaker 18: there's three parties involved here, each insured. The question about

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Speaker 18: who pays ultimately is further down the tree. A critical

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Speaker 18: thing is to get the work, to get the plant

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Speaker 18: fixed up and doing this job again.

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Speaker 1: If it is.

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Speaker 3: Found that Veolia, who run the plant, have done some

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Speaker 3: have made a huge mistake and it is all their fault,

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Speaker 3: will they be penalized.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Look, I'm not across the content of the contract between China,

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Speaker 18: between Running Water and Bolia, and which I think is

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Speaker 18: going to be picked up by Jakuway Metro Water when

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Speaker 18: they take over on the first of July. So that'll

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Speaker 18: be matter for those entities and when they get to

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Speaker 18: that point. But if you if you don't, if you

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Speaker 18: don't perform to the standard you have contractor to usually

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Speaker 18: in a contract, there's consequences. They're going to have to

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Speaker 18: see what that is.

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Speaker 3: I see that you want to shut down the scalp

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Speaker 3: or close the gap between the commercial rates and the

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Speaker 3: residential rates in your city, which are like frequently complained

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Speaker 3: about because they are apparently some of that differential is

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Speaker 3: one of the highest in the country. Are you actually

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Speaker 3: going to be able to do it, because it doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound like you have counsel backing.

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Speaker 18: Oh, it's about the pace at which we can do it.

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Speaker 18: We've got process of putting the budget for the next

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Speaker 18: financial year together. That the first priority is cut spending.

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Speaker 18: So that's what we're focused on at the moment. At

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Speaker 18: a later phase then looking at how you distribute the

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Speaker 18: revenue that you need to raise to do what you

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Speaker 18: have to do. At the moment, we're going to commercial differential,

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Speaker 18: which is three point seven times the equivalent residential rate.

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Speaker 18: It's been put up, you know, a couple of times

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Speaker 18: in the last few years, on the promise that it

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Speaker 18: would go back down. But of course if it goes

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Speaker 18: back down and that changes spending, then residential rates go

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Speaker 18: up even faster. So we're going to get spending under control.

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Speaker 18: Under control, then look at the way we write different properties.

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Speaker 18: But I'm committed to getting the commercial differential down.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, best of luck with it, Andrew, and thank

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Speaker 3: you for your time, Andrew little Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Mayor thank together do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Heither you only ask bish to rule out a water tax.

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Speaker 3: You didn't ask him to rule out a water levee. Ah,

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Speaker 3: I should have thought about that, because of water tax

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Speaker 3: is different to a water levee. Haven't we discovered that lately?

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Speaker 3: Now the government is lifting This is quite good news

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Speaker 3: for us in terms of making a few dollars. The

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Speaker 3: government's lifting the limit on how many rockets we can

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Speaker 3: fire off from New Zealand into space. At the moment

877
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Speaker 3: the limit is one hundred and they've lifted at tenfold.

878
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: This is due to Colins. She's lifted at tenfold to

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Speaker 3: one thousand. Turns out we are the world's third most

880
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: frequent launcher of orbital rockets. So obviously you know the

881
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: primary beneficiary of this is going to be Rocket Lab.

882
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: I will have a chat to them about that after

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890
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Speaker 3: the most remote parts of this country, visit one dot

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Speaker 3: MZ forward slash satellite whatever ether. Where is the CEO

902
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Speaker 3: of Wellington Water and all of this? What's his name? Dowity?

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00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 19: Oh?

904
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Speaker 3: Do you know what I meant to ask Andrew a

905
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: little about that?

906
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Speaker 6: What?

907
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: Wellington Water has put out a press release today and

908
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: they've gone, hey, guys, they're not going to be get

909
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: any more interviews to anybody anymore. The blackout. So they've

910
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: gone on a media blackout. And I didn't to ask

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00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: them if that was appropriate, But anyway, you'll have to

912
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Speaker 3: just use your come to your own conclusion. Eighteen past five. Now,

913
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: there's a weird thing that's happening at the Western Springs

914
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Lake in Auckland this week. Scientists are using electrical currents

915
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: to stun gold fish and turtles in order to kill

916
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: them because they've become harmful pests to native fish and eels.

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Speaker 3: Auckland Councils Senior freshwater ecologist Matthew Bloxham is with us

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00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: on this high mathe Hi, how are you doing there? Yeah,

919
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm very well think so explain to me how this works.

920
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: You put the current in, you stun the fish and

921
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: then they kind of float around and you scoop them

922
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Speaker 3: up and kill them.

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Speaker 19: Well, that's exactly right. Yeah, the boat acts as as

924
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Speaker 19: a well, the boat producers charged through some a one

925
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Speaker 19: that sort of hangs out beyond the bow and the

926
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Speaker 19: fish are stunned. Basically, they muscles contract and involuntarily and

927
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Speaker 19: the fish come to the surface where they're scooped up

928
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Speaker 19: and gathered and euthanized and then sent off to be biodigested.

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Speaker 3: What's biodigestive.

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Speaker 19: Well, the great thing about these fish we've caught about

931
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Speaker 19: just on five hundred kg so far this week, and

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Speaker 19: the fish are being sent off to these great digesters

933
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Speaker 19: to be turned into biomethane and they're used and currently

934
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Speaker 19: I believe, in glasshouses to heat the glasshouses. So it's

935
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Speaker 19: quite quite a nice result.

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Speaker 3: You'll be dumping them and these are the same trucks

937
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Speaker 3: that are taking the little green bins down to some

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Speaker 3: place down the road.

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Speaker 19: Right, that's correct, that's correct.

940
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Speaker 3: That's going on here, the goldfish and the turtles and

941
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Speaker 3: the things that shouldn't be in our waterways. Is this

942
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Speaker 3: historical dumping or is it recent dumping?

943
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Speaker 19: Well it could be both. You know, there is a

944
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Speaker 19: sort of a culture of spread New Zealand where fish

945
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Speaker 19: are being moved around for various reasons. You know, some

946
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Speaker 19: of the fish have obviously been here for quite a

947
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Speaker 19: long time, and we've caught some really large fish this week.

948
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Speaker 19: We had one coy cart that was fourteen cage's which

949
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Speaker 19: is one cag off the largest court, so that'll be

950
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Speaker 19: quite quite a long lived or a fish that's been

951
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Speaker 19: here for quite a long time. Turtles really long lived.

952
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 19: But yeah, so they could have been placed here recently.

953
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Speaker 19: I think it's sort of something, unfortunately that goes on

954
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Speaker 19: when people who are given or that take on these pets.

955
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Speaker 19: They don't realize it's an all of life thing and

956
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Speaker 19: it's sick of them or becomes inconvenient, so they look

957
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Speaker 19: on Western Springs is a great place to put them.

958
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Speaker 19: But unfortunately the opposite is true. These things become enormous

959
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 19: and they're incredibly for cunned animals. They're breeding machines and

960
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Speaker 19: the way they we call them habitat modifiers, the way

961
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Speaker 19: they actually feed. They resuspend all the silks and all

962
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Speaker 19: the nutrients and they've taken twent that's tied up and

963
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 19: plant material and turn it into a bioavailable form. So

964
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Speaker 19: before you know it, know that you have in al

965
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Speaker 19: good blames and all sorts of things. And so what

966
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Speaker 19: we're trying to do at Western Springs is, you know,

967
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Speaker 19: give the natives a chance, try and bring back the

968
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Speaker 19: native fish species, give the years a chance, and you know,

969
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Speaker 19: just try and improve the overall good loality of this

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Speaker 19: wonderful place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck with it, Matthew, Thanks for talking us through.

972
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Speaker 3: To appreciate is Matthew Bloxham, Auckland Council's senior freshwater Ecologists

973
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Speaker 3: five twenty two cutting.

974
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Speaker 2: Through the noise to get the facts.

975
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Speaker 1: It's Heather do for Cell and Drive with one New

976
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Speaker 1: Zealand coverage like no one else's news dogs.

977
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Speaker 3: They'd be, ah, you know what we're going to talk

978
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: to Just to go back to the thing that we

979
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: started the program with, which was the blind cord and

980
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: the coroner's call for that We're gonna have a chat

981
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: to Graham Rose of window Treatments after the half past

982
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: news right now it's twenty five past five. I have

983
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: to be honest, I am a little bit gutted about

984
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: how Nikola Willis's inquiry into the Reserve banks COVID spending

985
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: has ended up becoming a debate about timing and politics

986
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: and not about what Adrian or did with our money.

987
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: You know how I feel about the Reserve Bank under

988
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: him during the COVID period. I think he stuffed things

989
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: up royally and it frustrates me no end that he

990
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 3: and everyone else connected to him in that building still

991
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: carry on pretending that there is no case to answer

992
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 3: and they did everything perfectly fine. And it did blow

993
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: my mind a little bit yesterday just to find out

994
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: that what Adrians spent on that large scale asset purchase

995
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: program cost this country more than half what the christ

996
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: Church earthquakes cost the government. That's huge, So fair enough

997
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: to want some answers and accountability for it if you do.

998
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: And I'm absolutely here for this inquiry. But the thing is,

999
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: before this thing has even got started, it's lost a

1000
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: fair chunk of its credibility because of the politics that's

1001
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: been played with it. It should not have been announced yesterday

1002
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: to distract us from the gas tax with a view

1003
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: to it reporting just weeks before a general election. It

1004
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: should have been announced what one two years ago when

1005
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: it was still highly fresh in our mind more fresh

1006
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: in our minds are probably more relevant and more particularly

1007
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: while Adrian and Neil Quigley was still in their jobs

1008
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: with the Reserve Bank, so that they could be compelled

1009
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: to answer questions which they do not have to now

1010
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: because they're not in the jobs anymore. It doesn't wash that,

1011
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: as Nikola Willis told us yesterday, Cabinet decided six months

1012
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: ago to do this and yet she only pulled pin yesterday.

1013
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: It's a pity that silly political games have overtaken what

1014
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 3: is a necessary and welcome inquiry Heather do for Sea

1015
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: Allen either as National trying to lose the selection. Look,

1016
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: I'd have to say no. The answer is obviously no.

1017
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: But it has been a very very bad week for National.

1018
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody can say it's been an awesome

1019
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 3: week hither. I know a muppet that had two ponds

1020
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: in Bombay filled with carp that he fished for and

1021
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 3: during a massive reign. Event one of the ponds broke

1022
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 3: and they all escaped into a local stream and then

1023
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: it eventually got into the Wye Catall River. This was

1024
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: forty years ago. Do you know, have you ever heard

1025
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 3: the story of Stuart Smith, the fish terrorists in this country?

1026
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: It's one of the most fascinating stories about like people

1027
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: who just do the craziest things. Stuart Smith, he was

1028
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: born in the UK and he loved fishing in the

1029
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: UK as a little boy, spent it in an ordinate

1030
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: amount of time fishing and it brought him a great

1031
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: deal of joy to go fishing over there. So then

1032
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: when he moved to New Zealand, he thought everybody should

1033
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to have the childhood that he had,

1034
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: and so he went about just releasing like untold numbers

1035
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: of trout into our waterways. And he knew this was

1036
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: so that basically they could breed a boy, did they

1037
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: breed anyway? He knew that he wasn't supposed to do this.

1038
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: And how you know that he knew he wasn't supposed

1039
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: to do this was because he got prosecuted for it.

1040
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: But he carried it on and he had these industrial

1041
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: level like breeding breeding plans and releasing plans, and he

1042
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: spent decades, like unbelievably decades just releasing these fish into

1043
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: our waterways. We're still cleaning up after old mate Stewart

1044
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: released all the fish. But anyway, and not a weird

1045
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: part of our history. I don't think Stuart is responsible

1046
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: for what happened in Western Springs. I think that's just

1047
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 3: mums and dads who got sick of looking after Johnny's goldfish.

1048
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: Here's a lesson, or just a tip. Don't get the goldfish.

1049
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: Can't I don't even get it. You can't even cuddle them,

1050
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 3: obviously should you? But what's the point and a pet

1051
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: that you just have to look at? Anyway, Let's talk

1052
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: next about the blind cords and news is coming up.

1053
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Time class and only twice hard questions, strong opinion Here

1054
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: the duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand tend the

1055
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: power of satellite mobile news talk said be.

1056
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: Just remind it we're gonna have a chat out for

1057
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: six o'clock to Rocket Lab about the ability to fire

1058
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: more rockets into the sky. The Huddle is standing by.

1059
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: We have Thomas Scrimger Mark Sainsbury this evening and it's

1060
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: twenty four away from six now. The government has already

1061
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: said no to new rules around blind cords to keep

1062
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: kids safe. The coroner's findings into the death of Tilly

1063
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: Canby were released today calling for regulations around these blinds.

1064
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 3: But it's a no from Minister Scottsimpson. Window Treatment CEO

1065
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: Graham Roses with US High.

1066
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 16: Graham, Good evening.

1067
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: What's your take on this? Are regulations necessary?

1068
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: No?

1069
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 20: I think it's a better approach would be education to

1070
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 20: the to the blind industry. I think it's too complex

1071
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 20: of an issue to to try and regulate. So I

1072
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 20: think it's it's it's it's back to the industry to say, well,

1073
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 20: you know, how should we how should we operate?

1074
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: What is complex about the regulations?

1075
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 20: Uh, the issue was operation of a product. And you

1076
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 20: can imagine someone installing a blind in a kitchen window

1077
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 20: with a bench in front of it, and an elderly

1078
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 20: person trying to operate that blind from from an angle

1079
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 20: having a very short court just as an example. There's

1080
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 20: many I could give you, but there are some. There

1081
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 20: are many cases unique to the situation that it is

1082
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 20: just impractical and it would be unacceptable, you know, to

1083
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 20: the customer to have to you know, comply with a rule.

1084
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. It's for purpose, are you saying?

1085
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: For example, if you had to have the blind cord

1086
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: and at a certain height above something that a could

1087
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: climb on, like a kitchen bench, it would be so

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Speaker 3: high in the kitchen that no one would be able

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Speaker 3: to actually operate that blind, correct, I see what you're saying. Yeah,

1090
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: what about those those little what are they like breakaway

1091
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: tassels that you can you can, you can put on

1092
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: it so if anybody puts weight on it'll it'll let

1093
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: go and no one will die. Is that something we

1094
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: should be looking at.

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00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 20: Well, look, they're already on the market, you know, and

1096
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 20: so certainly from our point of view, you know, every

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00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 20: time we measure or install a product, we encourage the

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00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 20: customer to say, you know, with having cord tidies or

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Speaker 20: cord cleats or some device to protect, to remove or

1100
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 20: at least mitigate to a certain extent, that risk. So, look,

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 20: there are many devices already out there in the market,

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00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 20: and they can be purchased quite readily.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't we just make those breaks away tassels just

1104
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: a thing that we put in every single blind?

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00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: Yep?

1106
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 20: Look, I think in the in the perfect world, but

1107
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 20: you know, it's just not appropriate in some cases. So

1108
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 20: you know, I'm all for child safety obviously, and so

1109
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 20: you know, I mean the ultimate is put put it.

1110
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 20: Put a motor in every blind or every curtain that

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00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 20: you install, and then there is no no cords. But

1112
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 20: of course that's a that's an affordability, affordability issue, and

1113
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 20: some you know, you know, just can't go down that track.

1114
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 20: But I think in terms of your of your standard,

1115
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 20: you know, a roller blind or a Roman blind that

1116
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 20: you know, we can mitigate it just through common sense

1117
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 20: and a policy within the industry.

1118
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: What would you what would your advice be to a

1119
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: parent who was worried about this. Would you say, get

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Speaker 3: one of the cleats and attach it to the side

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Speaker 3: of the wall.

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Speaker 20: One hundred percent. I think the parents, you know, we've

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Speaker 20: all had you've got children, I've had young children, not anymore,

1124
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 20: but you know that they should be walking around the

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Speaker 20: home and anything that's that's within reachable or even a

1126
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 20: child can push a small you know, chair up to

1127
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Speaker 20: a window and grab a cord. Anything like that. You

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Speaker 20: know you can go on to someone something like blind

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Speaker 20: Parts dot Co dot NZ and you'll be able to

1130
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Speaker 20: purchase a small cleat or or or a cord lock

1131
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 20: to instore, or they can cut the cut the cords shorter.

1132
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, this is a question, a personal question on

1133
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: the Roman blinds. I mean, obviously, with the Roman blinds,

1134
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: you've got the actual like pulling cord, which is a

1135
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 3: risk if you don't know, wrap it up somewhere where

1136
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 3: they can't get a hold of it.

1137
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Speaker 2: But what about all.

1138
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: The like the spider web of blind of the little

1139
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: you know behind the Roman blind Is that a risk?

1140
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 20: It is a risk, absolutely.

1141
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: What do you do with that?

1142
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 20: Well, for a start, you know, if you had young children,

1143
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 20: I would be I would be avoiding them or put

1144
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 20: a motor on on on the Roman blind And so

1145
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 20: there are.

1146
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: No cords, Lord is going to be It's going to

1147
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 3: be very expensive.

1148
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Speaker 20: Isn't it?

1149
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 6: It is?

1150
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 20: It is so the cords on the back of a

1151
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 20: Roman blinds very very common. It's been around for years

1152
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 20: and years and years. But I know that's that's a

1153
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 20: that's a you know, that's a concern to if you've

1154
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 20: got young children.

1155
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: Right, I'm ripping them out, ripping them out, thank you,

1156
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: which is at the brand nine Vill I sorted out listen,

1157
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Speaker 3: Mat thank you as always, really appreciate your take on that.

1158
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: As Graham Rose, CEO of Window Treatments, New Zealand, it's

1159
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: nineteen away from Sex.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name

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00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

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00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: On the huddle of this evening, Thomas Scrimger maximums to

1163
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: Mark Sainsbury broadcast The High You too, yeah, Thomas, where are.

1164
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Speaker 4: You on this?

1165
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 18: Oh?

1166
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Speaker 21: Look, it's obviously an incredible tragedy for a young child

1167
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 21: dies in a situation like this. I think calls for

1168
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 21: a government intervention and regulation come from a really good place,

1169
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 21: this desire that no one should pass away too young.

1170
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Speaker 21: But I actually think it's really hard to imagine what

1171
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 21: a good literary intervention it would be, you know, to

1172
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 21: write the rules that are specific enough for every situation,

1173
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 21: and then who is enforcing these rules and how do

1174
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 21: they follow through. There are all sorts of consumer products

1175
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 21: that are good and we should think about how we

1176
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 21: can advocate more for them, and obviously education for parents

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Speaker 21: about the risks of these things. But as soon as

1178
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 21: you start creating a rule, you get these explosion of

1179
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 21: exceptions to the rule, and you have to get people

1180
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 21: to guess enforce the rule and inspect for the rule

1181
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 21: and all of these things. And I really don't see

1182
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Speaker 21: how or something like blind this is really a viable system.

1183
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Speaker 3: What do you think, SESA.

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Speaker 6: Well, for the I feel for the parents. I mean

1185
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 6: that Courtney and Ryan and I think there owed something

1186
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 6: a bit more than what they got from the minister

1187
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 6: as well, just simply saying we're not looking at progressing

1188
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 6: this at this time. I've lost their darling little daughter.

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Speaker 6: There's been other incidents have happened since then. You imagine

1190
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 6: that suddenly're going what the hell you know? And what

1191
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 6: they've been told? It's just ay of it. I just

1192
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 6: think it was sort of quite disrespectful of the way.

1193
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 6: They should have been given a lot more than what

1194
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 6: they were And if they say that there wasn't a

1195
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 6: matter of doing it, then explain it to them.

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00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I understand there's a bit of communication there now, Thomas.

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00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 3: That was a pretty quick tidy up of the old

1198
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: water tax situation from Chris Bishop, wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 21: I'm impressed here that you can get them on the

1201
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 21: line that quickly they're clearly worried about the farmers getting

1202
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 21: a b and the bonnet about water charges. And then

1203
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 21: for my part, I'd be wanting a right wing government

1204
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 21: to have a bit more courage user pays as something

1205
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 21: they like to talk about in other areas. Maybe they

1206
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 21: should be willing to poke the farmers and see, well,

1207
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 21: why shouldn't you be paying for water? I pay for

1208
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 21: water on my house and I use less water because

1209
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 21: of it. Why Night used to pay for water?

1210
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 6: Says so. Yeah, look the thing I was most impressed by.

1211
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 6: I'd read through your legislation to clause three hundred and

1212
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 6: thirteen to find this thing that they were so worried about. Yeah,

1213
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 6: I look, I agree with Thomas. I mean, we pay

1214
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 6: you well, you know most people around the country. You know,

1215
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 6: we can't escape board taxes it. Somehow should farmers be

1216
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 6: guaranteed water for free forever? And you can sort of

1217
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 6: see why that have sort of you know, they'll keep

1218
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 6: some provision in there to give themselves some wettle room.

1219
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 6: But it's upset the base and election here you don't

1220
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 6: upset the base.

1221
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: Well, I think you make a very good point saying so,

1222
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: And I think what surprises me is that they try

1223
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: to get this one past the base. That's weird, isn't it.

1224
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look I have impressed that they know. They've

1225
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 6: been just pouring over this legislation and yeah, and look

1226
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 6: out quickly, look at you got the you got it

1227
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 6: sort of to Heather.

1228
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: I didn't get it sorted. I mean they got it

1229
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: sort of between themselves. Were only here to facilitate. But Thomas,

1230
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: can you explain to me why it is that they

1231
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: tried to get this one past the farmers because it

1232
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: was always going to get found out. You just chuck

1233
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: it and chat GPT and you say is there a

1234
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 3: water tax in this relation? And it tells you yes,

1235
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: there is.

1236
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 21: Well, I think the reason you try it is because

1237
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 21: the costs if you have to backtrack politically, are not

1238
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 21: that high. Getter added Farmers has come out, They've made

1239
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 21: a bunch of noise and very quickly the Minister's decided

1240
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 21: it's not worth the fight. But even he has said

1241
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 21: now that they have categorically ruled out using it, and

1242
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 21: he's committed to well, maybe a select committee will remove

1243
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 21: the provision. He hasn't committed to removing the provision and

1244
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 21: they're going to see, well, how much of a hubbaloo

1245
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 21: is there really and p wely depends on what the

1246
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 21: coalition partners will do. They're probably not at a huge

1247
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 21: amount of risk of the farming base moving en mass

1248
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 21: to the political left. But if act or New Zealand

1249
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 21: first start agitating against this, well then maybe they'll be

1250
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 21: worried about losing farmers to another of the coalition partners.

1251
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, but test warders, see.

1252
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: What happens that fair point from here. Okay, we'll come

1253
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: back in just a second. Talk about Winston Peter's plan

1254
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: to campaign on a referendum for the Maori seats.

1255
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: Quarter two The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

1256
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: the only truly global brand.

1257
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 3: It's twelve away from sexy. Back of the Huddle, Mark Sainsbury,

1258
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: Thomas Scrimser, Right, same, So what do you think of

1259
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: Winston coming out and saying he wants a referend him

1260
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: on the Marty seats and he's going to campaign on it.

1261
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 6: Well, whenever I hear Winston talk at the Marai seats,

1262
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 6: my mind always goes back to nineteen ninety six when

1263
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 6: You Zealand first had all five Mari seats and the

1264
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 6: chamozzle that occurred after that, you know, when Bulger got

1265
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 6: rolled and the Hippy governed people jumping ship, you could

1266
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 6: almost say the same thing. I mean, Winston was saying

1267
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 6: that that Maury Patty's behavior has been the last draw.

1268
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 6: This is the reason why they should go. Well, you

1269
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: know MP's performance and that role wasn't wasn't that wasn't

1270
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 6: that great. It's a bit wretch to sort of say, well,

1271
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 6: because Marie k Party, mari MP's aren't turning up on time,

1272
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 6: we're doing this or doing that the reason to get

1273
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 6: rid of them. I think that's saying, I think to

1274
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 6: the somewhat sort of less attractive side of kiewi'sh natures.

1275
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: Do you think it'll be popular those saying Zoe.

1276
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 6: Look, yeah, these things, I mean they always are. But

1277
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 6: then again, you know it's like you look at the

1278
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 6: Treaty Principals bill and all the sort of opposition and

1279
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 6: that core do you sort of thought they had a

1280
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 6: ready audience? So yeah, it's I mean, you look at

1281
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 6: the scene when you say, well, why on earth do

1282
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 6: we have Marii's seats, it's sort of well, why do

1283
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 6: we have mari or blacks or I mean there was

1284
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 6: an historical reason, and I think it's a value to us.

1285
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 6: You look at Australia, I mean they couldn't even get

1286
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 6: the voice through. I think Marie's seats do add something

1287
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 6: to the New Zealand.

1288
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: They add saying so what do they add?

1289
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 6: They guarantee, they guarantee Mari representation. I think that's and

1290
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 6: I reckon that is important.

1291
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean, especially Mary already have. I mean, this is

1292
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: the problem is that, like it's a nice idea, but

1293
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: Mary already have twenty seven percent representation versus seventeen percent

1294
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: actual in the population. If we're going to do that,

1295
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: we could we could guarantee representation for anybody. But actually

1296
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: MMP sorts it.

1297
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 6: Out, wasn't it well? Don't we all so well? But

1298
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 6: MMP can But I mean that's in many ways, I'd argue,

1299
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 6: what even peak gives Mahri a bigger voice in any case?

1300
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 6: I mean, if it's in those in the specified seats.

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Speaker 6: Now it looks like an anachronism, but I still believe

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Speaker 6: there's a merit, and especially given the constitution, well of

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Speaker 6: a semi constitutional arrangement in terms of New Zealand and

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Speaker 6: the treaty I think there's still a place for them.

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Speaker 3: Thomas.

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Speaker 21: Oh, look, I mean my basic take is that there's

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Speaker 21: nothing new under the sun. Winston was talking about this

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Speaker 21: in twenty seventeen. He had a good election, he ended

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Speaker 21: up in government, and it promptly went nowhere. So regardless

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Speaker 21: of the pros and cons of it, you know, and

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Speaker 21: I think Pinston's trying to move in on acts supporters

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Speaker 21: who like the treaty principal stuff. But regardless of weather

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Speaker 21: one's keen for it, I wouldn't be betting on Winston.

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Speaker 22: Actually pushing it ahead.

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Speaker 21: He's sort of launching it into a political campaign and

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Speaker 21: hoping to get a bit of track.

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Speaker 3: You've cut to the heart of the problem here, having you, Thomas,

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Speaker 3: because he's promised this beforeward twenty seventeen and then he

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Speaker 3: didn't deliver. And actually, if you look at his his

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Speaker 3: unless there is something that involves throwing money at an issue,

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01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: he actually doesn't really deliver that much on his promise,

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Speaker 3: as does he.

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Speaker 21: For sure, And I'm cynical about what Winston is doing

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Speaker 21: with this. But then to give the other side of

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Speaker 21: the matter, we can't act like this is an unhavable

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 21: conversation it's really important as a nation that we can

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Speaker 21: say someone can argue in public against the existence of

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Speaker 21: Marti seeds and then they can get a rebuttal against them.

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Speaker 21: But I think too often there's an instinctial reaction from

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Speaker 21: large portions of the country that it is beyond the

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Speaker 21: pale to suggest that we might remove the Marty seeds. Yep,

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Speaker 21: I think they have utility still, but we can't say

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Speaker 21: no never, you can't even raise it.

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Speaker 3: Must do you think they have utility?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 21: I think they do.

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Speaker 18: I think well so.

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Speaker 4: I think first of all, people often talk.

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Speaker 21: About Mardi representation in Parliament and that's a misguided way

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Speaker 21: of thinking about it, because electorates aren't there to give

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01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 21: representation to two ethnic groups. That they're there to identify

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Speaker 21: specific constituencies. And historically Mari and New Zealand have remained

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 21: a distinct constituency with political interests and they haven't yet

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Speaker 21: been convinced that that no longer exists. I'm not saying

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Speaker 21: we can never get rid of them, but they were

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 21: given for a specific reason which wasn't Mary representation. It

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01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 21: was distinct electorate and that has continued. So unless we

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Speaker 21: can make a positive case for why there is not

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Speaker 21: a distinct set of interest they should endure right now.

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Speaker 6: Others, you think the other issue here there is why

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Speaker 6: didn't he put it up as a coalition condition currently?

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Speaker 3: Well, because don't you think sayings so though it's the

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Speaker 3: kind of thing that you really need to mandate for it,

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: but it's not something that you can just sort of

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: float midway through a term and surprise people with.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, I think Thomas is right. We shouldn't be

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01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 6: afraid of having the discussion and there's no and people

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01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 6: can advance all the sort of reasons they're like, and

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Speaker 6: we should be able to have a mature discussion of

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Speaker 6: the problem is, whenever we get into this, it all

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Speaker 6: becomes people get accused of race baiting or actually are

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01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 6: race baiting or you know, it's it's huge as a

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Speaker 6: political as a political pawn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, guys, it's good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thomas Scrimger and Mark Sainsbury. Seven

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Speaker 3: Heather. No one pays for water. They pay for the

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Speaker 3: delivery of the water, so the city people don't pay

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Speaker 3: for the water. They pay for the delivery of the water,

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Speaker 3: and farmers pay for the delivery of water. With pumps,

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Speaker 3: we get better well, etc. Robin, thank you. They'd gotten

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Speaker 3: a bit confused there towards the end. While we're on

1375
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Speaker 3: the subject of corrections, hither it wasn't trout. It was

1376
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: perching carp that the fish terrorists released around New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sorry about that, okay, Lord, So, as I

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: told you earlier, the reviews have been stunning for Lord's

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Speaker 3: concert last night, I m the kids around me the

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Speaker 3: concert club went and the kids around us loved Lord.

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Speaker 3: They were singing and they were dancing, and they were

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01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: screaming for her, and they were crying when she was

1383
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: singing perfect places. They're going completely and up so for it.

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Speaker 3: I think the reason that concert club was not phizzing.

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Speaker 3: We have put it at like possibly the second or

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Speaker 3: third worst concert we've ever been too. I'm not was

1387
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: Travis Scott was the worst? And now it's it's a

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01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 3: it's a tie between Lord and Dixie Chicks. And I

1389
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: think it's just an age thing. I think it's just

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Speaker 3: an age thing. I don't I'm not going to bag

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Speaker 3: Lord because I mean, honestly, she is knocking it out

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Speaker 3: of the park and she's having a wonderful time and

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01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: I love Kiwi's doing well, so good for her. I

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Speaker 3: just think it's it's one of those it's quite a

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01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 3: bleak concert. Like it's quite brutalist, do you know what

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean. You go there and you're like, oh, this

1397
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: is all like very moody and stuff and like hard

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Speaker 3: to listen to. And I think so I think I

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 3: think that if your ride or die for Lord, like

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: if you were a huge Lord fan, it was like

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 3: going to like it was like it was like a

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: religious experience for the kids there, and they just fizzed

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: for it. And I think they forgave a lot of

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01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: weird stuff, Like can I say Lord is not getting

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01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: her value for money out of those dances. She had

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 3: two dancers on stage. They spent so much time lying down.

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm not lying lying down on the stage. I was like,

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: this is like a like I don't know what's going on.

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: One just ate an apple through one of the songs.

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Speaker 3: It was a bit strange. Anyway, Yay for Lord and

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Speaker 3: the kids, as I say, loved it. Rocket Lab next.

1412
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing the Business

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Speaker 1: hour with Heather dupleic Alan and Mas Insurance and Investments.

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Speaker 2: Your future is in good hands. Used doorg zb.

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Speaker 3: Evening coming up in the next hour. Harrying Arthur, the

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Speaker 3: former All White, I've got a cool little thing to

1417
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 3: tell you about football. And just to take Jamie mackay

1418
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: shortly on the water tax back down and then Ender

1419
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: Brady on all of the business going down to the

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Speaker 3: UK at seven past six. So we've got a boost

1421
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Speaker 3: for our rapidly expanding space sector. The number of allowed

1422
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: launchers from New Zealand into space is being increased. It's

1423
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 3: going to rise from a limit of one hundred to

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01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 3: a limit of one thousand now. Rocket Lab's vice president

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01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: of communications is raw As Morgan Morgan Conaton Morgan. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 3: what proportion of these do you reckon? You will use?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 22: I would say right now. Rocket Lab is the only

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01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 22: orbital launch provider in New Zealand, so if we're being greedy,

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 22: I'd love to take them all. Bye, Let's be candid here.

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 22: I mean, we really do want to see New Zealand's

1432
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 22: space industry grow. Overall, there are another number of other

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 22: companies trying to do the same thing, and we're sharing

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01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 22: them on as well. But I think what's really important

1435
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 22: is that the government has enabled this flourishing community, whether

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 22: it's rocket Lab or beyond. And you know, if you can't,

1437
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 22: if you've been limited by how many launchers you can do,

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 22: then there really is a limit to the sky as

1439
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 22: the limit. And now that's kind of just been lifted

1440
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 22: for everybody.

1441
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason I'm asking is because you did twenty

1442
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: one last year, so it would have if you're just

1443
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: looking at that, I mean, you're not even touching you're

1444
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 3: not even close to touching the limit, the previous limit

1445
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 3: of one hundred. So I was just assuming that there

1446
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: must be other players coming into lifted to a thousand.

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01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 22: Well it was twenty one last year, but it's eighty

1448
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 22: one overall now, so we're getting pretty close to that

1449
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 22: hundred limit overall, just rocket Lab and in.

1450
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: This is not an annual limit. This is a forever limit.

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01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 22: Not an annual This is a total limit.

1452
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: Why do we even have a limit?

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 22: Well, I suppose it's about monitoring, you know, the impact

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 22: of space lawaunch on the nation, on the environment, kind

1455
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 22: of what we can support from a regulatory standpoint. You know,

1456
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 22: it does make sense to assess any new industry as

1457
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 22: it comes along to see what kind of volumes can

1458
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 22: the system overall support. And back when Rocket Labs started launching,

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01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 22: you know, one hundred seemed like a fantasy that maybe

1460
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 22: one day in our wild the streams we might reach

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01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 22: one hundred. And then here we are not all that

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01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 22: much longer later, and you know our team is planning

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 22: celebrations for the hundred's launch already.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 3: Okay, now who would you predominantly be doing it for?

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Speaker 22: Who do we launch for? Yes, well, there's got a

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01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 22: lot of customers globally. NASA is a significant one, so

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 22: we've launched a mission to the Moon for them. We

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 22: relatively recently launched a mission over the polls to help

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01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 22: track ice smell fover are the Arctic and Antarctic. So

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Speaker 22: there's a lot of environmental research, a lot of scientific

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 22: exploration throughout the Solar system, so that's certainly one market.

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 22: We do a lot of commercial constellations, so a lot

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 22: of organizations that are doing perhaps earth observation, synthetic capture, radar,

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 22: and really that just those are constellations to look down

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 22: on Earth and provide all manner of data, whether it

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 22: be on shipping traffic, whether it be intelligence, whether it

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 22: be disaster relief, so a lot of commercial constellations. And

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01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 22: then of course we have the national security market as well,

1480
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 22: so we do a fair amount of intelligence work. So

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 22: it's kind of really really split.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I imagine it's one of these things that rapidly escalates,

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01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 3: Like you do one, you do two, suddenly you're doing fourteen,

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 3: then twenty one, then eighty blah blah blah. It just

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 3: keeps going up really rapidly. Is that would I be right?

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 22: Absolutely?

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 22: Absolutely?

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01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, what's going on with the engines, because I

1490
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: see some of the engines are blowing up and it's

1491
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 3: causing some online chatter.

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 22: Oh, during an engine test campaign, the engines are mean

1493
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 22: to blow up. That's how you test their limits. That's

1494
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 22: how you make sure that they don't do that thing

1495
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 22: in slight. It's just part of the course and part

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01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 22: of designing a new launch vehicle. So yeah, gosh, we

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 22: are far from the first company to have, you know,

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01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 22: exploded a launch vehicle engine and test. I think we've

1499
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 22: done it with all of our previous engines. It's just

1500
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 22: part of successfully bloom and rocket that works in flight.

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Speaker 3: Well, good stuff and best of luck with everything, Morgan,

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01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: good to talk to you, Morgan cont and Rocket Lab

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 3: Vice president of Communications. Eleven past sixteen, Heather due to

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 3: see Allen. If your insurance is ripping your nice You're

1505
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,879
Speaker 3: not gonna love what I'm about to tell you. IAG.

1506
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 3: New Zealand, which is the largest insurer in the country,

1507
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: has reported today and it turns out that its underlying

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01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: insurance margin has gone up twenty two point nine percent.

1509
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 3: Is twenty two point nine percent compared to nineteen point

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01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 3: five percent last year. Now this is the six months

1511
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: to December did report a lower profit. The happier news

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: is that they're making significant investments to make it easier

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: for anybody who uses them as an insurer to settle

1514
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: the straightforward claims more easily and therefore basically allow them

1515
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: to get through to the more complex and bigger ones.

1516
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 3: And there's a warning to us all in some of

1517
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: the comments from the boss there. Boss says we need

1518
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 3: to as a country get going on handling the climate

1519
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 3: change risk. Says the way forward for New Zealand is clear,

1520
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: invest and better, has a data, make smarter planning decisions,

1521
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: strength and infrastructure, and we necessary relocate communities out of

1522
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: high risk areas. And I'll tell you something for nothing.

1523
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: If we don't get onto it ourselves, the insurers are

1524
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 3: going to get onto it for us. Jamie McKay's next

1525
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: twelve plus six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1527
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, empowered by Newstalks EBB.

1528
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: Approaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy

1529
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: Allen on.

1530
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with maths, insurance and investments. Your futures

1531
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: in good hands, used talks EDB.

1532
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: Mick ja If you aren't aware of it, London's a

1533
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 3: bit of a rough place nowadays and probably nothing explains

1534
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 3: it or epitomizes it more than the fact that Mick

1535
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 3: Jagger's girlfriend's been attacked in London. So d Brady will

1536
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 3: be of us in half an hour, give us the details.

1537
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: It's quarter past six and Jamie mckaye hosts of the

1538
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 3: Countries with us.

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01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 6: Hello, Jamie, can I hear that right?

1540
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 3: So what do you make of the speed with which

1541
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: Chris Bishop has shut down this talk of a water tacks?

1542
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1543
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 7: Look, it's far too complex for a smaller brain like mine.

1544
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 7: Look federated farmers and Groundswell are both jumping up and

1545
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 7: down as you know about this kind of hidden water

1546
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 7: tax and the RMA reforms.

1547
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,919
Speaker 6: I just heard Chris.

1548
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 7: Bishop, I think was he on your show or the

1549
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 7: six o'clock news or something saying, look, there's nothing to

1550
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 7: see here, We're not going to enact this. I don't know.

1551
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 7: I do know the industry good bodies, beef and land,

1552
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 7: New Zealanderian Z Federated farmers are flat out doing submissions

1553
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 7: to this, and I suspect this will get tied up

1554
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 7: in the submission process. But I guess the industry good

1555
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 7: bodies and the likes of Groundswell are just trying to

1556
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 7: keep the government honest on this one. Certainly, if you're

1557
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 7: to take the government at their word, their intent was

1558
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 7: nothing but good.

1559
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 3: Heather, Oh whatever, what do you think though? You know,

1560
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: like set aside the politics of it. Is there merit

1561
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: in taxing water because basically what he's put it in

1562
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 3: for is the ability for ministers to tax water in

1563
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 3: order to control demand. Is that something we should be considering.

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 7: Look, I grew up or when I was a young farmer, Heather,

1565
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 7: I started farming on a property that didn't have a

1566
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 7: good water boar, and we relied on rain water to

1567
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 7: feed our farmhouse. When that rainwater ran out, if we

1568
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 7: weren't careful with it, we had to top up from

1569
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 7: the stock supply from the creek, which wasn't that flash.

1570
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 7: To be perfectly honest, I think everyone should probably have

1571
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 7: a water meet because we just waste so much of it.

1572
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 7: The argument, I guess from the farming point of view

1573
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 7: is that they're pouring it on to grow grass, to

1574
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 7: grow protein and earn US export dollars. So yeah, when

1575
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 7: it's being used wisely, I think there's no issue with that.

1576
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 7: But I think most of us, most households anyhow, just

1577
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 7: think of cleaning your teeth, are guilty of wasting a

1578
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 7: hell of a lot of water. And if we have

1579
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 7: our shower times heather, there would be no shortage of water.

1580
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 7: There's plenty of it in this country.

1581
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe if we fixed our water pipes with

1582
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: any other number of things as well.

1583
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 7: I was in Wellington for the National Lamb Day barbecue

1584
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 7: on Wednesday. I couldn't believe it, taking a bit of

1585
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 7: a walk run around Wellington here that there's water everywhere.

1586
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: It's like coming out out of the road yeah.

1587
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 7: Underneath the road like it comes out underneath the road

1588
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 7: on I think it was Featherston Street.

1589
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe it.

1590
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite wild to see.

1591
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 6: Now.

1592
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 3: How much do you reckon? People love that story about

1593
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 3: National Lamb Day. I reckon it's a whopper.

1594
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 7: Well, it's a great story. And we've all heard the

1595
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 7: story about the Dunedin Ship, of the ship Dunedin leaving

1596
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 7: port charmers five thousand carcasses. Interestingly, what's often forgotten is

1597
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 7: there was two hundred and forty six kegs a butter

1598
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 7: on as well, So it wasn't only a frozen meat

1599
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 7: export industry that was born on February fifteenth, eighteen eighty two.

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01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 7: It was also, I guess the beginning of our dairy

1601
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 7: export industry. But my favorite part of the story, and

1602
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 7: it's not always included, this one here there is about

1603
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,799
Speaker 7: the captain, a guy by the name of John Whitson.

1604
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 7: He'd earned a reputation on the Dunedin for completing crossings

1605
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 7: from London to New Zealand and under one hundred days,

1606
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 7: and he was ferrying emigrants immigrants should I say, in

1607
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 7: those days. So they decided to kick the old Dunedin

1608
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 7: out with the refrigeration unit in Glasgow and he was

1609
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 7: charged with getting the meat from porch Armers that originally

1610
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 7: came from Omaru from the Tota estate. They shipped it

1611
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 7: down or put it on the rail down to porch Armers.

1612
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 7: Off it went. They were going through the tropics and

1613
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 7: sparks started flying in the refrigeration hold and they were

1614
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 7: worried the whole lot would be ruined if the refrigeration

1615
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 7: failed to refrigerate. So Captain Whitson crawled inside the cold chamber,

1616
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 7: the frozen chamber, he drilled holes to recirculate the air.

1617
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 7: The crew eventually pulled them out with the rope. And yet,

1618
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 7: despite his near loss of life and the potential loss

1619
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 7: of the cargo, ninety eight days later the Dunedin arrived

1620
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 7: in London. The meat arrived the Smithfield Market for sale.

1621
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 7: Only one carcass was deemed unfit for sale and the

1622
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 7: local butchers, the London butchers, praise the quality of the mate.

1623
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 7: It's just a great story heroicism.

1624
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: It really is a great yn. Hey, thank you very much,

1625
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 3: Jamie appreciated. Jamie mckaye, Host of the Country, speaking of

1626
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: another thing that's quite interesting, Variety, you know, the children's charity.

1627
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 3: Variety has done a survey asking a bunch of kids

1628
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 3: what they want to be when they grow up. The

1629
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 3: number one thing that the surveyed kids in this country

1630
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: have told Variety that they want to be when they

1631
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: grow up radio host Ants Melissa. They were like, you

1632
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,480
Speaker 3: know what we want to be, like Ants, A footballer.

1633
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 3: They want to be footballers. You are like, what more

1634
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 3: than Yeah, rugby player doesn't even rugby player doesn't even

1635
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: make the top four as far as I can see.

1636
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: So it's footballer number one, number two, gaming developer number three,

1637
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 3: content creator number four, police officer. Hey, that's quite nice,

1638
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 3: you know, better than growing up to be a ram raider,

1639
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: I suppose. And after that you get into the All

1640
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 3: Blacks and the super rugby players and the netball players

1641
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. So like there is this considerable

1642
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: gap between footballer at one and then you know all

1643
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: the other players now. Now, now, to be fair, I

1644
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: do I do wonder if footballer is because I was

1645
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: gonna say, because it's you know, if you're a girl

1646
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 3: or a boy, you could basically say footballer. But I

1647
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 3: still think it's predominantly a male sport in terms of

1648
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 3: our heroes in this country. So I'm gonna say that's

1649
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: just a boy. That's those are the boys saying that.

1650
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 3: So I think that personally, I look at that, I go,

1651
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: that's an Auckland Football club story. That's AFC doing well,

1652
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 3: raising the awareness and all the other stuff, you know,

1653
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: the the All Whites recently having had some some recent

1654
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 3: relative success and stuff like that. Anyway, we're going to

1655
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: talk to Harrying Arta about that because are we seeing

1656
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 3: signs of the older football taking over? And even though

1657
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 3: Darcy completely pooped all over my hope that one day

1658
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: we could be like maybe a reasonable football side, maybe

1659
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 3: we could. Anyway, Harring urs with us after past six

1660
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 3: to twenty one.

1661
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1662
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: on the business hour where they had the dup sur

1663
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: and mas.

1664
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: Insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands, news dogs

1665
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: v hither.

1666
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 3: I work at a regional sports trust and I can

1667
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: tell you without a doubt football to lease a degree,

1668
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,520
Speaker 3: basketball are absolutely taking over, especially in Auckland. The statistics

1669
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: don't lie. Oh thank God. Mothers around the country are

1670
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 3: going thank the Lord for that because look I know

1671
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: that repetitive knocking of the ball with the head with

1672
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 3: the football. I mean that eventually makes you go about gaga,

1673
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 3: probably like sort of like low level boxing, but at

1674
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 3: least it's not the kind of misery that comes from

1675
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 3: the concussions that they do when they're playing rugby and stuff.

1676
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Anyway, listen, I'm happy

1677
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 3: to tell you the crown accounts are in better shape

1678
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 3: than expected, because frankly, I am out there scratching for

1679
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: every bit of economic good news and fiscal good news

1680
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 3: to bring you. The books for the first six months

1681
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 3: of the fiscal year show that the deficit is twenty

1682
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 3: two percent smaller than expected in December than was expected

1683
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 3: in December. Now mainly that's because of lower core crown

1684
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 3: ex spenser, so the government's spending a little bit less

1685
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 3: than it was expected by about a billion dollars. Now

1686
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: warning with that is that has got to do apparently

1687
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 3: with the timing of the spending, which means the spending

1688
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: still has to happen, so it might yet catch up

1689
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: later on. But crown revenue is also one hundred million

1690
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 3: dollars higher than forecast, and I'll take the good news

1691
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 3: every day. And speaking of which, of course, I think

1692
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 3: it's next week. Is it next weekends that we have

1693
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 3: the OCR? It's next week that we have the OCR.

1694
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: And ASB has put out a note and said, don't

1695
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,839
Speaker 3: freak out, it's going to be held. Their primary primary

1696
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 3: expectation is it will be held at two point two

1697
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 3: five percent, and their base case still remains that the

1698
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 3: OCR hikes will start in December and it's going to

1699
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: peak at three point twenty five percent in late late

1700
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 3: next year. So it's two point two five percent now,

1701
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 3: it's going to peak at one percent higher late next year.

1702
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: Forecasting that far in the future. I think we've all

1703
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 3: learned is you know, a bit of a fool's errand

1704
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 3: but hey, I'll take that. That's not half bad. Six

1705
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 3: twenty six.

1706
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1707
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 3: So, as I told you earlier, Lord brought her Ultrasound

1708
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: World tour to her hometown of Auckland last night. She

1709
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 3: started the show proudly donning a blues rugby shirt, which

1710
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 3: was nice, and then she pulled off some nineties boy

1711
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 3: band moves. The gravity of performing back at home seemed

1712
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: to hit her pretty hard.

1713
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 19: I've always particularly excited and nervous for the awkward show

1714
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 19: because I mean.

1715
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: You know why, well, because she's from Auckland. But anyway,

1716
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: then not long into the show, the clothes started coming off.

1717
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 3: First she took her belt off and sort of threw

1718
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 3: it aside. Then she took her jeans off and she's

1719
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: just running around in the little Calvin klein Undi's. Then

1720
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 3: Nick muner Off came the top as well. No reason

1721
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 3: for it in the show other than to see Lord

1722
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: half Nuddy. It felt a little I got to be honest,

1723
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 3: felt a little bit like she thought she needed to

1724
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: use her body to compensate for her performance. Not necessary.

1725
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 3: She's mad, clever, she is so talented anyway, I think

1726
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: we all would have loved the show. Well, the kids

1727
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: would have loved the show anyway, even if the Blues

1728
01:20:54,120 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 3: top stayed on the entire time. That's just them all

1729
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 3: singing along and just going mad with her. Anyway. She

1730
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 3: is going to be performing her last New Zealand show

1731
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 3: in christ Church tomorrow before she jets off to Australia.

1732
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 3: If you have here's a tip for you, right, if

1733
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: you have a young person in your life who is

1734
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 3: mad for Lord and you're in the South Island. Do

1735
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: what you can to take them to the show tomorrow

1736
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 3: if you can avoid going along yourself as a parent.

1737
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 3: That's my hot tip for you. News talk ZB news is.

1738
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:52,919
Speaker 1: Next, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business

1739
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: Hour with the head, the Dupla and MADS, insurance and investments.

1740
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands. News talks be either.

1741
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: If you thought it was maybe an age thing that

1742
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: you didn't love the show like the kids around you,

1743
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 3: why don't you buy tickets to Egilbert Humpadink here in June?

1744
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 3: And I think you will feel and look very young. Gee,

1745
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: it's not a bad idea. Incidentally, I've actually been to

1746
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Anglert before and it wasn't half bad. It's not I think. Look,

1747
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 3: I mean you realize he's going to be night. Was

1748
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 3: it ninety or ninety one in May? Like he is

1749
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: a fair old age and I think it's at a

1750
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: certain point. I think Eve and I will go. I

1751
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: can give that a miss. And that's one of them anyway,

1752
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: So but thank you for the idea. Scalar Up has

1753
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 3: reported today very happy to tell you half year profit

1754
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: is up twenty percent to twenty nine million dollars. Which

1755
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 3: is a record for them. It looks like Trump's tariffs

1756
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 3: haven't hit them to the extent that they thought that

1757
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: they were. That they've estimated that the full cost of that,

1758
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 3: the cost for the full year will be about two

1759
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 3: point five million dollars, which is around half what they

1760
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 3: were previously estimating. So there you go. Some good news,

1761
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: isn't it. We're off to the UK, by the way,

1762
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 3: in ten minutes. It's twenty four.

1763
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Away from seven Keller du for see Allen.

1764
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: So it looks like key we kids no longer want

1765
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: to grow up to be All Blacks. A survey of

1766
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 3: a couple of one hundred kids by charity Variety found

1767
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: that their top goal is to be a professional footballer,

1768
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 3: being an All Black or a super rugby player. Those

1769
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: are combined categories put together slipped a fourth behind gaming

1770
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: development and being a copper former All White. Harrying Arthur

1771
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 3: is with us on this.

1772
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Hey Harry, sure to Heather, how are you?

1773
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. I was stoked with that.

1774
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 3: Were you stoked with that?

1775
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 5: Oh?

1776
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 23: I was absolutely absolutely fantastic. Yeah, it's great to see.

1777
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 23: I mean I was well forty five forty odd years ago.

1778
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 23: Was that was my goal when I went to school's

1779
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 23: to be a footballer, and it's great to see that,

1780
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 23: you know, the kids are seeing that as a pathway.

1781
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,959
Speaker 23: These numerous channels obviously around with obviously the A League.

1782
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 23: I guess there's a World Cup coming out, We've got

1783
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 23: Women's World Cup in twenty three, We've got other women's

1784
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 23: Cup next year. So yeah, football is definitely on the

1785
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 23: lips of our youth at the moment, which is great

1786
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 23: to see.

1787
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, i'd had originally, like I put it down

1788
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 3: to Auckland Football Club just doing so well and getting

1789
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 3: so much publicity, and then somebody had text me through

1790
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 3: I said, nah, a far bigger reason is basically what

1791
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 3: happened with the women's FIFA World Cup. What do you think?

1792
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 23: I think it's a combination of both, Heather. I think

1793
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 23: we've seen dramatic increases in participation numbers. I think we're

1794
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 23: up about one hundred and eighty thousand plus registered players

1795
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 23: in New Zealand, double digit growth in women's football posts,

1796
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 23: the Women's World Cup likewise, with futsal likewise, of Mardi PACIFICA.

1797
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 23: So I think when we talk about football being a

1798
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 23: true community game, we've definitely seen that and then some

1799
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 23: of those those stats that New Zealand Football released a

1800
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:50,839
Speaker 23: couple of weeks ago. So the trajectory is very positive.

1801
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 23: We've just got to maintain it, you know, from a

1802
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,839
Speaker 23: grassroots level right through it. As you talked about high performance,

1803
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 23: we're talking about the phoenix, we're talking about the Obviously,

1804
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 23: the AF presence in New Zealand, particularly around Auckland over

1805
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 23: the last kind of eighteen months has been incredible, a

1806
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 23: huge amount of interest in Auckland Football Club that have

1807
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 23: had a huge, fantastic season last year. I think we're

1808
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 23: second on the table at the moment with pushing for

1809
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 23: another finals birth and more crowds, good crowds that go media.

1810
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 23: So yeah, that's definitely play paid a part as well.

1811
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: Now, Harry, somebody said to me a couple of days ago,

1812
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 3: this a year the crowds actually are not that good

1813
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 3: this season. Last season it was awesome and everybody's having

1814
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 3: a great time. But they've done it, been there, done that,

1815
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 3: Not interested this year. Is that a problem?

1816
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 23: No, I don't think so.

1817
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: Hither.

1818
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 23: I think this defo, last year was an incredible year

1819
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 23: for Auckland Football Club. I think if you took a

1820
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 23: poll before the season started what the expectations were. I

1821
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 23: think when they finished the league, I think they averaged

1822
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 23: over nineteen thousand. We're just under nineteen thousand on average

1823
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 23: for the season. That was number one in the league.

1824
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 23: I think that, you know, you would have taken that

1825
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 23: and winning the Premiers played at the same time. So

1826
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 23: they've increased the or raised the standard and the expectation

1827
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 23: of football, particularly in Auckland now and we've seen that

1828
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 23: with the amount of crowds that they've come through the

1829
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 23: gates this year. Yes, not as good as last year,

1830
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 23: but you know, I think there's definitely opportunity to grow

1831
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 23: that presence around around Auckland, particularly particularly in the community game,

1832
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 23: which is massive. So look, I think people will come.

1833
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 23: You know, we've had the derbies with the Phoenix have

1834
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 23: been major draw cards for both clubs over the last

1835
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 23: eighteen months. And like I said before, we've got a

1836
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 23: huge opportunity with the World Cup now Egypt, Iran and

1837
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 23: Belgium and our group the Women's World Cup as qualifications

1838
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 23: start later on in a few weeks time. We've got

1839
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 23: the OFC Pro League underway as well, so there's a

1840
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 23: huge amount of football for local communities to get involved with.

1841
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good. I Harry, it's always good to

1842
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 3: talk to you, mate. Thank you very much, really appreciated.

1843
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 3: It's harring us who's a former All White. By the way,

1844
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you should take some heart from,

1845
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 3: because of course life can't all be about kicking balls

1846
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: around and stuff like that. The kids will also asked

1847
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 3: what their favorite school subject is, what do you reckon?

1848
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 3: The kids answered like the what do you What do

1849
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 3: you reckon? Came out number one? Maths? Maths? Like I

1850
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 3: thought we all hated maths. I thought we're all really

1851
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: bad at maths and we all hated it because we

1852
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 3: don't know what we're doing. Maths came out number one,

1853
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,560
Speaker 3: ahead of pe. So how about that twenty away from seven.

1854
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: Heather du per c Ellen.

1855
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, apparently you have in your house nineteen things

1856
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 3: that you don't use and you should be thinking about

1857
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: selling them. This is from trade me. Now trade Me's

1858
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 3: got a vested interest in this. They want you to

1859
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 3: sell their stuff, your stuff, so that they can take

1860
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 3: a cut. Boy, do they take a cut? Trade me

1861
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 3: reckons that seventy five percent of US hold unused items.

1862
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 3: Now I mean seventy five percent, I would say, is

1863
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: that accurate? No, it's one hundred percent. Like no one

1864
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: uses everything in their house, Okay, but anyway, whatever, we'll

1865
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 3: go there. So little seventy five percent estimation they reckon

1866
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 3: each key. We has nineteen items that they could sell,

1867
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 3: and the estimated value that you would get if you

1868
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 3: sold all of them would be thirteen hundred dollars. And

1869
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: in total, the in total, all the stuff that we

1870
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 3: should be selling on trade me is worth five point

1871
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: two billion dollars. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you.

1872
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 3: I'm not here to pump trade Me's tires. I sold

1873
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 3: some stuff on trade me the other day and it

1874
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 3: was a nightmare. Why it wasn't Trade Me's fault that

1875
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 3: it was a nightmare. Well, what it was was a

1876
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 3: bunch of baby stuff. Like there's some baby stuff that

1877
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 3: you buy that you go, well, I absolutely need a

1878
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 3: steamer film for baby food, one that steams the baby

1879
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 3: food and then chops it. And then later on you

1880
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 3: find out, yeah, actually, probably don't need that because you've

1881
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 3: got a pot and you could do it yourself. But

1882
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 3: you know, like it's a thing, right, so some people

1883
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: love it. I bought it didn't need it, so I'm

1884
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna sell that on trade me, and I'm

1885
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 3: gonna sell the gigantic baby bath that I didn't need.

1886
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sell all this other stuff. So I sold

1887
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: all this stuff. It was such an Honestly, at the

1888
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: end of it, I was like, why didn't I just

1889
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 3: give this away to a deserving friend? This is an

1890
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: admin nightmare because what it is. Of course, this is

1891
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: totally fine if Jenny come over to your house and

1892
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 3: picks it up, and then you're like, here you go, Jenny,

1893
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 3: thanks for the money. Buy I have fun with it.

1894
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 3: But Jenny now lives in Bloody said him, isn't she,

1895
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 3: and blend him. So now you have to go and

1896
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 3: find a box that's big enough for that baby bath,

1897
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 3: and there is no box big enough for that baby bus.

1898
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 3: Now you're finding a box and you're chopping that box up,

1899
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: and then you're folding the box around it, and then

1900
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 3: you're pumping in some newspaper to try and keep this thing,

1901
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, from not cracking while it's in the mail

1902
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 3: and you're strapping it up. You're trying to make sure

1903
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: it's really good and safe because Jenny deserves that she's

1904
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: paid for it. And then you go and write Jenny's

1905
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 3: name on and now you got the addrest wrong, and

1906
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 3: then make you write it again it and by the end,

1907
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 3: by the time you've done that with three or four items,

1908
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 3: you're really wondering whether it's worth it. And then trade

1909
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: Me takes its cut, and then you're like, nah, it

1910
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 3: actually really wasn't worth it in the end. In the end,

1911
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: so what And then and then then you get insalted,

1912
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 3: which is where I got to because I had an

1913
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: item and I'm not gonna shall I Yeah, bucker it. Okay,

1914
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 3: it was a breast pump. It was a really great

1915
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 3: breast pump. I loved that breast pump. That breast pump

1916
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 3: costs me four hundred and fifty dollars plus. So also

1917
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 3: I had another one hundred and fifty dollars worth of

1918
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 3: kit that went with it, So it's a six hundred

1919
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 3: dollar thing, right, So I go on trade Me and

1920
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: I go, you know what I reckon, it's a steal

1921
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 3: at one hundred bucks. No, no nobody nibbled. So I

1922
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's a steal at fifty bucks. No

1923
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 3: nobody nibbled. Then some smart ass comes along a private

1924
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: message is me and I do you want twenty five

1925
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: dollars for it? And at that point I was like,

1926
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 3: do you know what, No, I don't want twenty five

1927
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,440
Speaker 3: dollars for my six hundred dollar breast pump that undoubtedly

1928
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 3: you're going to ask me to send it in the giggle,

1929
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 3: which is going to cost me more than twenty five

1930
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: dollars worth of ADMIN. So I've just put it back

1931
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: under the basement and I was like, I'll give it

1932
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 3: to someone. Surely I've got a friend who would love

1933
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: a six hundred dollar gift for free, because because I

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Speaker 3: don't want to send it to dave An in the

1935
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Speaker 3: cargo for twenty five dollars. Anyway, upshot is I did

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Speaker 3: make one hundred and eighty dollars that I didn't have before.

1937
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Speaker 3: Downside is I can't remember how much of that trade

1938
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Speaker 3: me took. It was a lot, but also how much

1939
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Speaker 3: ADMIN was involved with it and was it worth it?

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Speaker 3: Probably in the end, yes, it's about to.

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Speaker 24: I wonder if I could work out your hourly rates

1942
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Speaker 24: as a trade meself.

1943
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Speaker 3: All of this drama and a mental load. You can't

1944
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 3: quantify the meant to load of feeling stressed out about

1945
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: getting that to Jenny and said and fast enough anyway,

1946
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Speaker 3: I got one hundred and eighty dollars.

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Speaker 25: But I don't know.

1948
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just wonder if I should have

1949
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 3: given it to my mates. Do you know what I mean?

1950
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Speaker 3: Sixteen away from seven.

1951
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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1952
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,520
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and Ma's.

1953
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Speaker 2: Insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands us talks'd

1954
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Speaker 2: be Heather.

1955
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Speaker 3: I just sold three old super Rugby jerseys for two

1956
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Nathan. That is that is how you do it.

1957
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Speaker 3: Thirteen away from seven, end of Brady UK correspondence with

1958
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Speaker 3: Melo Ender.

1959
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Speaker 25: Heather, great to be back here.

1960
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Speaker 3: I mean, do you think do you think it's getting

1961
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 3: serious for Andrew? If the coppers are talking to the prosecutors.

1962
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 25: Oh, I think it's getting serious by the hour for Andrew. Yes,

1963
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 25: this is getting to a very dangerous place for him now.

1964
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 25: So the Royal family have basically thrown Andrew under a

1965
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 25: boss this week with those comments from the Palace saying

1966
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 25: that they will fully support any police investigation. I think

1967
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 25: you can read between the lines here. The King is

1968
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 25: getting heckled everywhere he goes, every single public appearance for

1969
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 25: the last week, anywhere Charles has gone, someone has shouted

1970
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 25: from the crowd at the king This never happened when

1971
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 25: his mother was alive, and I think this must have

1972
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 25: rattled the institution. And as more information comes out every

1973
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 25: single day, every time you go on a new site,

1974
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 25: pick up a newspaper in this country, in Norway and France,

1975
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 25: there's an Epstein's story somewhere, Andrew gets a mention. What

1976
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 25: they're looking at now is prosecuting him or at least

1977
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 25: launching an investigation under claims of misconduct in public office.

1978
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 25: And this is going back to when Andrew was a

1979
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 25: UK trade envoy traveling the world. And we can see

1980
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 25: he's forwarding on information from the British government and from

1981
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,480
Speaker 25: the Palace. Four minutes later it's landing in Epstein's inbox.

1982
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Speaker 3: Now, Indy, give me your take and what you make

1983
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,440
Speaker 3: of the call that the UK is colonized by emigrants.

1984
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Speaker 25: I find this deeply offensive to be honest, as a

1985
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 25: migrant myself who lives in the UK and pays all

1986
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 25: their tax in the UK. To hear Jim Ratcliffe, who

1987
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 25: lives in Monaco in the south of France, and doesn't

1988
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 25: pay all his tax in the UK. I find it

1989
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 25: deeply offensive and also the words kir Starmer has used

1990
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Speaker 25: as well. Just for anyone who doesn't know who Jim

1991
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Speaker 25: Ratliffe is, he is Britain's richest man and good luck

1992
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 25: to him. I've met Jim a few times. He is

1993
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 25: very intelligent. I remember one interview. I arrived in my

1994
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 25: Volkswagen Golf. He arrived in a helicopter and we sat down,

1995
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 25: we did the interview and we both went back to

1996
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Speaker 25: our respective worlds. Good luck to him. He's worked about

1997
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 25: forty billion enz dollars. Five years ago, Jim moved his

1998
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 25: primary residence to Monaco in the south of France. He's

1999
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,520
Speaker 25: given an interview today and he says that it's unsustainable.

2000
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 25: These are his words I'm paraphrasing. You can find them online.

2001
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 25: But he says there are nine million people claiming benefits

2002
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 25: for being out of work in the UK. The population

2003
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 25: just a few years ago was fifty eight million. It's

2004
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 25: now seventy the population had Jim's got his facts wrong.

2005
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 25: Here for a very smart guy with numbers and who's

2006
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 25: able to move money around the population of the UK

2007
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 25: was last fifty eight million in two thousand, not in

2008
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 25: twenty twenty. So go and check your figures, Jim. I'll

2009
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 25: make one point, Heather, because I'm angry about this. I

2010
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 25: get on the tube every morning at six am in

2011
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Speaker 25: a place called Hillingdon. When I get on that tube,

2012
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 25: it fills up, and it fills up with people from

2013
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 25: all over the world going to work, going to pay

2014
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 25: tax in the United Kingdom. And I don't see too

2015
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 25: many men who look like Jim on that tube. I

2016
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 25: see Irish people, I see Ukrainian guys going to building sites.

2017
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 25: I see black people, I see brown people. We all

2018
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 25: sit together. People get on, people get off. The thing

2019
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 25: we all have in common is we're all working on

2020
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 25: paying tax in the UK. So if Jim wants to

2021
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 25: continue the conversation, I suggest come home, Jim, and maybe

2022
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 25: pay a bit more tax.

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Speaker 3: Well, fair point that you might there. Now, what happened

2024
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: to mcgegg's Guilfrid.

2025
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 25: This is a horrible story. She was going into a

2026
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 25: private members club called in Mayfair the other night and

2027
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 25: two people jumped her from behind. Now members of the

2028
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 25: public saw what was happening and intervened and fought off

2029
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 25: the threat. And we know this has happened because Melanie Hamrick,

2030
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 25: she's thirty eight. She has been with Sir Mick Jagger

2031
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 25: twelve years. They have a nine year old son together.

2032
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 25: She took to social media and she just said the

2033
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 25: horrible news to report. Really really shaken up by this,

2034
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 25: and she thanked the members of the public for saving her.

2035
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 25: But we don't know whether this was a bag snatcher

2036
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 25: and attempted robbery, of what has gone on, or if

2037
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 25: they even recognized her. But that's where we are and

2038
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 25: it really really sad that she's had this experience in

2039
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 25: London the other night.

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Speaker 3: In the thank you for talking to us, mate, we'll

2041
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 3: talk to you next week. Into Brady UK correspondent. Hither

2042
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm driving around Auckland with two dishwashers of my Twyota

2043
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 3: because someone sold me a Vogue which they falsely advertised

2044
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 3: as a Fisher and pycle, so I need to get

2045
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 3: rid of that one and now to avoid losing more money,

2046
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 3: I've bought a Bosch Series eight for three hundred dollars

2047
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 3: on fare book marketplace, but just realized I put it

2048
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 3: on its side and you're not supposed to do that.

2049
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 3: And I can hear water sloshing around and I've probably

2050
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 3: ruined that one as well. Lord eight away from seven

2051
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 3: it's the.

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01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: Heather Too per Se Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by newstalk Zebbi.

2054
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Speaker 3: Heather, I agree with you. I've got my teenage nephew's

2055
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,799
Speaker 3: queen bed which I have to get rid of office space.

2056
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 3: Last time I sold a queen bed on trade me,

2057
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 3: I got seven dollars and then I got so much

2058
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 3: flak from the buyer. I'm going to chuck this one

2059
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 3: in the skip. Go to kmart if you want to

2060
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 3: deal people. That's from Byron. Just to be clear, that's

2061
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 3: not from me. I don't I don't condone chucking things

2062
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 3: in the skip if you can find another home for them.

2063
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 3: Monunless you can't be bothered, which is a lot of

2064
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 3: the time.

2065
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 2: Now.

2066
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: I was waiting for this and it didn't take as

2067
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 3: long as I expected. We've heard from the girlfriend of

2068
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 3: the Norwegian biathlete who was crying on the tally because

2069
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 3: he cheated on her. She doesn't want him back, so

2070
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 3: there's a Norwegian newspaper that got in touch with her.

2071
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 3: She said it's hard to forgive even after a declaration

2072
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 3: of love in front of the whole world. I didn't

2073
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 3: choose to be put in this position and it's painful

2074
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 3: to have to Durrett. We've been in contact and he's

2075
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 3: aware of my feelings about this. They haven't named her

2076
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 3: the media outlets. She doesn't want attention. He has now

2077
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 3: put out a statement saying he deeply regrets sharing this

2078
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 3: personal story on what was a day of celebration for

2079
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 3: Norwegian biathlon. So basically everybody's been like, you're actually a

2080
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 3: bit of a clown mate, and I'm happy to say

2081
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 3: that the girl's got some self respect, So there you go.

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01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 24: Sounds like a very sensible woman to me. Here, Smashing

2083
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 24: Pumpkins Rhinoceros to play us out tonight. We're rocking out today.

2084
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 24: It's going to be in May, thirty five years since

2085
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 24: Smashing Pumpkins's debut album, Gish came out. So they're going

2086
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 24: to be rereleasing it on vinyl. It's going to come

2087
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 24: in the original packaging and it's going to be a

2088
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 24: color vinyl. I don't know what a color vinyl is.

2089
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,480
Speaker 24: If you've got a record playoff.

2090
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 3: It's a vinyl, that isn't it a vinyl? When you like,

2091
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 3: Lord did that, didn't she? She had the vinyl that's

2092
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 3: a color one.

2093
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 24: All right, so the discuss color, but hopefully it actually

2094
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 24: plays unlike because the remembers she did the CD that

2095
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 24: had a fancy color on its play. But yeah, anyway,

2096
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 24: so yeah, if you're interested in that, Billy Corgan's website

2097
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 24: is called Madame Zuzu Emporium, so just go looking for that.

2098
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 24: They're weird herether it's the Smashing Company. Yeah, yeah, that's what.

2099
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 24: That's what Billy Corgan's are. Weird, dude, they make weird music.

2100
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 24: This is this is the whole thing if you're excited

2101
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 24: by weird stuff. Actually, to be fair, Lord's probably gonna

2102
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 24: get a copy as well. Should be into this. But yeah,

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01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 24: Madame Zuzu Imporium, look it up for your thirty five

2104
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 24: year anniversary of Gish And this one's Rhinoceros.

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01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 3: And do you know what's going on sale this evening?

2106
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 3: Tickets to Sublime. Just just spreading out some concert club

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01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: information for you. Tickets to Sublime are going on.

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Speaker 24: Just never stops ant, No, it does is great.

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Speaker 3: Whoever that deck was who text me before? I was like,

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01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 3: you just can't so many freebees dude, I'm paying for this,

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Speaker 3: Missouf anyway. So tickets for Sublime are going on sale

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Speaker 3: this evening and the dude is dead, but his son

2113
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 3: is doing it and I why not. I mean, make

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Speaker 3: give it, hon gave it ahone. If you're into that stuff,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Ants. We'll see you tomorrow.

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