1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: A little bit of moment over the weekend on the 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: war as yet again the Coalition of the Willing, which 3 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: includes US, gathered literally or by zoom to reinforce their 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: view that we need some peace talks and a cease 5 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: fire for Ukraine. So is this thing actually going anywhere? 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Geuga political analys Jeffrey Millers back with us on this. 7 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Jeffrey morning to. 8 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: You, Good morning March. 9 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: This thing Turkey Thursday, Zelenski putent your reckoning of it's real. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: Look, it could be a huge day on Thursday. So 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: this was Vladimir Putin's counter offer after being faced with 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: this ultimatum of agreeing to a thirty day cease fire 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: by today, Putin proposed a direct talks between Russia and 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Ukraine and Stanbul on Thursday. Then Trump, just in the 15 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: last few hours has come in and told Ukraine to 16 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: accept that, and vlat of Mezelenski has said he will, 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: and he will go there personally, And that is really 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: an ace card on his part because there was no 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: suggestion by Vladimir Putin that he would be there in person. 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: But now he kind of has to respond. So we 21 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: could see a face to face meeting between Vladimir Putin 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: and Vladim Mezleinski and as symbol on Thursday would be 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: quite extraordinary. 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Can Putin turn up and just go here? I am, 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, Crimea is mine. The stuff I've 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: got currently as mine, as Donald's already told you take 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: it or leave it. 28 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Look, there'll be a lot of twists and turns until 29 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: this war is finally over. And I don't think the 30 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: talks are going to be over in a day. Is 31 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: going to take longer than that. But I think it's 32 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: absolutely necessary. We abserltainly need talks. The only way you're 33 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: going to get through get an end to this war 34 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: is through dialogue, diplomacy, de escalation. And I think it's 35 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: great news really that this is in the offering. I mean, 36 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: we wait and see whether it latchally materialize, because there's 37 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: still the chance that Vladima's Lensky and the others will 38 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: back away in a sense because they won't get the 39 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: thirty day seeds fire. Because I think it's very unlikely 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: that Vladimir Putin is going to going to do that, 41 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: that he isn't actually going to lay down his arms 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: and agree. 43 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: With that which is going to put you back in 44 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: the American court. Do they that point go, Look, we've 45 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: done all weekend. You guys don't want to play ball. 46 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Don't worry, We're gone. Do you believe that they will 47 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: step back or not? 48 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: Look, Donald has the final say here. We've seen that 49 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: in the past few hours. He told Voladi Mezelenski to 50 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: go to these talks, and Zilansky is in some ways cave. 51 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: But also I think he's been smarter than that by 52 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: saying he will go there personally and expecting person to 53 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: do the same. So in the end, Donald Trump is 54 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: calling the shots here. And that's always been the case, 55 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: despite the unity by these European leaders and the coalition 56 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: of the winning which includes New Zealand and Kirstarma name 57 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: check New Zanders mostly supporters. So but Donald Trump in 58 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: the end is always the man who everyone is looking 59 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: to here. And it's really Donald Trump's game, and he's 60 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: playing it, and he's playing it in a very different 61 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: way to everyone else. 62 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to the other war just quickly. Trump's into 63 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: the Middle East this week and he's touted some sort 64 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: of announcement like you've never heard an announcement whipby. Do 65 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: do you have any idea what that is, and we're 66 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: going to get to any tangible progress you think this 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: week on it or not. 68 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, the talk is that he will recognize the Palestinian 69 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: state that's been denied, but I don't know. I mean, 70 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: it will be a significant can visit this week. It's 71 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: his first major foreign trip. Of course Donald Trump went 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: to the Pope's funeral, Pope France's funeral, but it will 73 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: be his first major foreign trip again to the Gulf, 74 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: just like he did back in twenty seventeen was his 75 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: first major trip and that was a significant one. So 76 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, we shouldn't forget all of We've got all 77 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: of these conflicts going on around us. We had India 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: and Pakistan seemingly resolved over the weekend with a ceasefire, 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: and we've got, of course the Middle East on the 80 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: agenda as well. So there are awful lot of balls 81 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: in the air, heem Mike, and we disciperately need solutions 82 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: to all of them. I think Donald Trump's unconventional approach 83 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: to diplomacy it can bear fruit, and we're perhaps seeing 84 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: that with what's happened over the last few hours with Ukraine. 85 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Well, the types of Jeffrey go well appreciate your expertise 86 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: international geopolitical andalist Jeffrey Miller. 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