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Speaker 1: Now some Gloria of our leaders are preparing to sue

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Speaker 1: the crown for failing to protect them while they were

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Speaker 1: living in the remote Christian community. They are claiming that

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Speaker 1: some public servants knew that GLORIAVL was using slave labor,

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Speaker 1: but those public servants failed to do anything about it.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer Brian Henry is working on this case and is

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Speaker 1: with us. Now, Hi, Brian, hi, how are you? Well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Who are these public servants?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the question. We don't know because you can't

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Speaker 2: get it under the Official Information Act, So we have

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Speaker 2: had to take court proceedings to identify the names of

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Speaker 2: who they are. And also we need to know a

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Speaker 2: little bit about what they knew. And they didn't know,

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Speaker 2: you know, they had the knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Do you at least know which department they work for?

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Speaker 2: They were in a all of government committee, so they're

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Speaker 2: in a whole raft of departments. Okay, haven'ted that in

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen and as far as my people see, they

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Speaker 2: did nothing.

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Speaker 1: And how do you know that they knew that there

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Speaker 1: was slave labor?

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Speaker 2: Well, they got a lot of complaints from people who

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Speaker 2: will be my plaintiffs, and we've also got our hands

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Speaker 2: on a report that was prepared in the Department of

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Speaker 2: Internal Affairs. It's been redacted, so we don't know everything,

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Speaker 2: but we do know and we can see enough to

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Speaker 2: know that they knew about the witnesses interviewed, they knew

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Speaker 2: about the allegations, and they actually had a copy of

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Speaker 2: what we believed, because you can actually see slavery in

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Speaker 2: what we believe if you read it properly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, obviously it's one thing to have allegations late.

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Speaker 1: It's another to know for a fact that this is

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Speaker 1: going on. Which of the two is what they were

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Speaker 1: dealing with.

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Speaker 2: Well, we believe that when someone comes and makes a

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Speaker 2: serious complaint that is called a witness, and when that

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Speaker 2: witness gets evidence in court, that is evidence, and that's

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Speaker 2: how things are judge. You don't just sit back and

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Speaker 2: get a letter from what we say are the slave

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Speaker 2: masters saying oh no, no, no, we don't do that

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Speaker 2: and just simply say I know, we believe the leaders.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, even if there's an alligation, right, there's

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Speaker 1: an allegation, and certainly if there are a number of

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Speaker 1: allegations that will liter each other, there becomes a responsibility,

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Speaker 1: doesn't there to investigate? Did they fail to do that

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Well, what we're saying is they had enough. They are

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Speaker 2: required to investigate. What they did was just entirely inadequate.

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Speaker 2: You just don't go to the potential criminal and say, oh,

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Speaker 2: did you steal that safe, and if he says no,

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Speaker 2: walk away, you actually go and evaluate the evidence, look

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Speaker 2: around further, look at the circumstances. And the big thing

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Speaker 2: is what we believe is their community rules. It's not

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Speaker 2: a religious document. It is the community rules, and it

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Speaker 2: talks about keeping them ignorant, keeping them unworldly. And you're

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Speaker 2: talking about education ago and it teaches that you only

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Speaker 2: teach the kids and not to work in the community.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the education stuff around them is utterly wawful.

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Speaker 2: And just to keep on your same, I do know

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Speaker 2: the government's got a process in place about whether or

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Speaker 2: not they can keep being in school. Yeah, but they're

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Speaker 2: entitled to have a proper process. So Erica Stanton seems

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Speaker 2: to be doing the job as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 2: pretty well too, pretty impressive. Brian.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if you guys were to win this, are you're

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Speaker 1: looking for compo?

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Speaker 2: Yes, how much? Well, there's general damages because if you're

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Speaker 2: enslaved and people know you're enslaved, it just becomes a

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Speaker 2: what is the going tariff for slavery? Well, at the moment,

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Speaker 2: I haven't worked to figure out yet, but we will

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Speaker 2: work out a figure and it'll be quite large.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know you've got to start large because

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Speaker 1: it only comes down from there. Brian, Thank you very

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Speaker 1: much appreciated, and best of luck with that, Brian. Henry

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