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Speaker 2: And Welcome today. The myth crackdown ers a just a headline.

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Speaker 2: Some alarm bells over the business insolvency, the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: on trade with India, Bank margins, Cook's trouble moving homeless

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Speaker 2: people on the Lads and leads for Well. The commentary

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Speaker 2: box with the sport of course, Richard Arnold stateside Steve

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Speaker 2: Trice out of the Mighty Australian Pasky. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: week seven past six. At least the key is Starmer

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Speaker 2: I read over the weekend, or I was actually watching

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Speaker 2: him over the weekend. Actually I had read the room right.

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Speaker 2: The unity around climate change, he said from South America

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Speaker 2: from COP thirty has gone. And as world leaders bag

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Speaker 2: Trump as well, they Mighty as an easy target for

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Speaker 2: the Zealots. The simple truth that Starmer was bold enough

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Speaker 2: to point out is not really about Trump, who thinks

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Speaker 2: climate change of courses are scam but rather the many

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Speaker 2: millions of people have at last realized that although climate

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Speaker 2: change is real, we are not going to be able

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Speaker 2: to change things enough to get the targets we promised

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Speaker 2: ourselves we might have all those years ago. Self interest

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Speaker 2: has won the day, because self interest always wins the day.

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Speaker 2: The economic damage to any given country is simply and

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Speaker 2: demonstrably too great for a populace to bear, and given

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Speaker 2: most of the populous lives in the industrialized and first

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Speaker 2: world places that create the most emissions, no one advocating

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Speaker 2: the sort of carnage required to reach a Paris number

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Speaker 2: is going to ever get elected to a position to

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Speaker 2: be able to do it. Certainly, we can build windmills

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Speaker 2: and have battery storage and hope it rains. But as

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Speaker 2: our very own country is discovered, we have never needed

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Speaker 2: coal more because the Zealots, when they were in charge,

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Speaker 2: stop looking for oil and gas, didn't build enough renewable

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Speaker 2: so left us dangerously short of being able to heat

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Speaker 2: the towels in the bathroom. So this is not about

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Speaker 2: climate change being bad, or policies being wound back, or

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Speaker 2: too little, too late, or the endless hyperbole from the

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Speaker 2: alarmists about it being an emergency. It is about the

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Speaker 2: simple reality that after a while the fear and theory

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Speaker 2: become a simple truth as more and more regular people

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Speaker 2: experience and understand the demands required, and we have increasingly

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Speaker 2: decided they are too great. Will science help? Probably? Will

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Speaker 2: the zalot still squeal in an off putting, in hysterical tone,

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Speaker 2: Almost certainly? Will there be a cop thirty one? Of

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Speaker 2: course there will be. But Starmer has it right. Peak

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Speaker 2: climate change momentum came and went rightly or wrongly. We

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Speaker 2: couldn't do it. We in reality were never going to

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Speaker 2: do it. So the here and now is about the

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Speaker 2: acceptance that's well. Whether it's easy to promise, it's hard

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Speaker 2: or in some cases impossible to deliver.

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Speaker 3: Wow news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Remember on Sunday in Britain, they were all there, from

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Speaker 2: the King to Kate to William and all the past

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Speaker 2: living prime ministers lined up ironically speaking of the royal family. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Ben Newman, he was interviewed today in the media because

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Speaker 2: Camilla had turned up at a spud Man caravan last

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Speaker 2: week for fraternity event.

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Speaker 3: So impressed. You must have gone around the room and

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Speaker 3: said twenty or thirty.

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Speaker 4: Other people before she got to me, and she oh, spud.

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Speaker 3: Man, Ben, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I was blown away by everything she knew.

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Speaker 5: I really was.

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Speaker 6: I was really impressive her.

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Speaker 3: She's a lovely lady.

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Speaker 2: Also in Britain, the Country Secretary had to deal with

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Speaker 2: the prisoner release shambles on the Telly Under the.

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Speaker 7: Last government for quite some time, there were on average

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Speaker 7: seventeen wrong releases. Under this government that has risen it's

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Speaker 7: twenty two. That is completely unacceptable. It was unacceptable before,

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Speaker 7: it's unacceptable now.

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Speaker 2: The Tories can't believe they're lacking lemmys and competence. It's

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Speaker 2: the willingness to avoid the question at all when what

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Speaker 2: I was asking him on behalf.

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Speaker 8: Ultimately of the country is can he reassure people watching

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Speaker 8: there aren't any more case on this?

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Speaker 3: And he knew there were and he didn't answer.

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Speaker 2: Now then out the shutdown starting to infuriate Americans. The

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Speaker 2: Republicans have read the room a bit and working on

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Speaker 2: abolishing the filibuster.

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Speaker 9: We've got to get rid of the filibuster. We know

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Speaker 9: that this makes no sense, and we can get all

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Speaker 9: kinds of great things done, like national voter ID laws.

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Speaker 9: We can kick every illegal off the welfare roles. We

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Speaker 9: can get this country moving again. We got to do this,

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Speaker 9: and we got to do this to save the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the airport, which is due to get even

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Speaker 2: worse this week. They're over, the holidays is coming up.

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Speaker 2: It's just feeling not good. But they just need to

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Speaker 2: get on board and get it together.

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Speaker 3: It's impacting everybody. This is a trickle down thing.

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Speaker 9: It's not complicated, and I wish they would just all

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Speaker 9: phone a way to get together, work for the people

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Speaker 2: I finally sad day in Australian media. John Laws has

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Speaker 2: died at the age of nineteen. His career lasted seventy

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Speaker 2: one years and for many he was as well. Many

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Speaker 2: Cash for Comment was a scandal if you followed the story.

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Speaker 2: But for a career that started and Bendigo, he's pretty

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Speaker 2: much lived the dream. I'm all received later along, by

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Speaker 2: the way, with the passing of Graham Richardson, rich oh

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Speaker 2: Richardson died out of the Weekend as well, met as

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Speaker 2: the news of the world in ninety Yes again we're

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Speaker 2: When we get to Catherine and Joe later on the

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Speaker 2: week Britain's providing military support to Belgium. What a Belgium

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Speaker 2: had over the weekend, Yes, more Russian drone incursions into

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Speaker 2: their airspace. So we'll watch this with interest. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: There's something about Brazil. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: Bortiletto's already driven his car into the wall six laps

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Speaker 2: Good day at the office for ELIN one trillions ago.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what we don't often talk about executive pay here.

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Speaker 8: This was an absolute douzy. So yeah, trillion dollar pay package.

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Speaker 8: that's a debate and scrutiny. But cety club percent. The

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Speaker 8: votes cast back what is the largest corporate paypackage in history.

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Speaker 8: So he's got lots of targets, isn't he. So this

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Speaker 8: includes over the next decade, delivering twenty million vehicles that's

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Speaker 8: takes the stake to twenty five percent. Mike, of course,

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Speaker 8: he's pretty happy about the vote. He liked the cheers

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Speaker 8: at the AGM, and he said other Shaholder meetings are

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Speaker 8: like snooze fests, but ours a banger's. It's obviously a

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Speaker 8: bit of disquie on the amount of his package, but

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Speaker 8: he had threatened to quick if he actually delivers on it,

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Speaker 8: you'd have to think sharlders would be the big winners.

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Speaker 8: Just also by the way he reckons humanity will be

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Speaker 8: huge winners from his Optimus robots. He claims they will

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Speaker 8: increase the world economy by effect of ten jobs will

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Speaker 8: pretty big coll mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if only he could get his roadster out by

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, that might help his reputation,

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Speaker 2: right travel, IAG, what are we reading into this?

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Speaker 8: Yes, this is the company that owns Brittish yarways. So

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Speaker 8: the years fell teen percent in London on Friday, So

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Speaker 8: they're coming off a pretty good year last year. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: profits weakening. Revenues were flat for the third quarter nine

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Speaker 3: The companies have gone pretty well.

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Speaker 8: The shears Word down ten percent but are up twenty

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Speaker 8: year by back. But yeah, just a bit of alarm

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Speaker 8: immigration controls under Trump they're not helping. And also corporate

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Speaker 8: And also you talk about the UK before the propensity

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Speaker 8: doing so at least two days a week. That's also

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Speaker 8: holding back business travel. So give you an if you

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Speaker 8: look at business bookings this year for BA, it's actually

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Speaker 8: running at sixty three percent of pre COVID, so work

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Speaker 8: still strong. Although I thought it was interesting they've got

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Speaker 8: no plans to get back in on the concord. Some

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Speaker 8: US carriers are, though, and that's after the Trump administration

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Speaker 8: lifted It's been on overland supersonic flight.

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Speaker 2: Right, so back home, What did Rodin Briscoes have to say? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: Obviously, Briscoes has been one of the most resilient amongst

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Speaker 8: cost of living pressures. That update on Friday, the thirteen

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Speaker 8: Sporting goods down more than seven percent, although it did

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Speaker 8: the ever redevelopment of one of the key flagship stores,

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Speaker 8: least to one percent. But yeah, basically, Rogic's saying the

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Speaker 8: retail environment's still difficult, and I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 8: he said, there's a lack of consistent momentum. We've had

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Speaker 8: those rate cuts, but it hasn't really transferred into a

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Speaker 8: we'll be hoping it does in time for the key

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Speaker 8: shopping period. She's down one point eight percent, still up

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Speaker 2: All the money's going on the power bills, Greg, that's

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Speaker 2: So when you say, at twenty six we're sitting here

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Speaker 2: Well, there's heartbreaking. Who are these companies so the big

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Speaker 2: The Facebook, The DAMA Morning p years, good money making

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Speaker 2: and another week of shut down.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and so how are things going in the US

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Speaker 12: of a right now grounded? That's how things are. More

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Speaker 12: than fifteen hundred flights around this land were halted over

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Speaker 12: the past twenty four hours. Thousands more delayed. As to

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Speaker 12: the week ahead, Trump's Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy says, it's.

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Speaker 13: Not going to get worse. I looked to you know,

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Speaker 13: the two weeks before Thanksgiving, you're going to see air

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Speaker 13: travel be reduced to a truckle. We have a number

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Speaker 13: of people who want to get home for the holidays.

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Speaker 13: They want to see their family, they want to celebrate

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Speaker 13: this great American holiday. Listen, many of them are not

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Speaker 13: going to be able to.

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Speaker 2: Get on an airplane.

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Speaker 12: The Thanksgiving holiday fast approaching a little over two weeks off.

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Speaker 12: This is the biggest travel day of the year, As

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Speaker 12: huge numbers of Americans get on the planes, they hope

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Speaker 12: to visit family members they have not seen for some time.

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Speaker 12: The flight cancelations so far have been running it around

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Speaker 12: four to five percent for various airlines this week. That

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Speaker 12: is likely the double Duffy describes the chaos in just

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Speaker 12: one sector, the Delta Airlines hub in Atlanta.

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Speaker 13: Eighteen or twenty two controllers in Atlanta didn't show up.

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Speaker 13: We had eighty one staffing triggers throughout the national airspace.

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Speaker 13: That means controllers weren't coming to work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's chaos.

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Speaker 12: That's just one airport, and the effects on would be

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Speaker 12: travelers tire. Here's what some of them are saying.

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Speaker 14: I ended up getting re routed on my way to Brazil,

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Speaker 14: so I flew from Dallas all the way up to

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Speaker 14: Chicago with seventeen hour layover.

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Speaker 12: They said they could get us to Atlanta, and then

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Speaker 12: that fell through.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, I had booked a hotel in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: I'm angry that the governments, the President and the Congress

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Speaker 6: and the Senate can't get together and just settle this thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not.

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Speaker 12: The results of the election last week seems only to

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Speaker 12: have hardened sentiments. Democrats have reduced their demand for the

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Speaker 12: continuation of health insurance subsidies from a permanent change to

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Speaker 12: one year extension. Republican Senate leader John Thune says no way,

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Speaker 12: while Democratic Leader Senate Tchuma says they have no ideas

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Speaker 12: for reform. I've been dodging about this for years and years.

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Speaker 12: Don't care about rising insurance costs. This is the issue,

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Speaker 12: of course, at the heart of the government shutdown.

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Speaker 13: Publicans are not about to further burden taxpayers by blindly

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Speaker 13: extending a flawed program.

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Speaker 5: Republicans are making it clear as day that they are

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Speaker 5: happy to let premium sky rite.

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Speaker 12: Meantime, it is everyday folks who are feeling the pain

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Speaker 12: in many fronts, including the loss of food stamps for

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Speaker 12: those forty two million Americans who've been getting them. Many

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Speaker 12: say they can't afford basic food stuff. And with all

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Speaker 12: this going on, Trump has attended another extravagant party at

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Speaker 12: Mara Lago. Last week, he had hosted that Great Gatsby

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Speaker 12: themed Halloween party, which included the scantily clad girl riving

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Speaker 12: around in the giant champagne glass under a banner which

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Speaker 12: read quote, A little party never killed anyone. This latest

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Speaker 12: bash featured Trump supporting Argentine President Javier Malay doing a

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Speaker 12: take on the Trump Village People dance video that's gone

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Speaker 12: viral now Following the announcement of the twenty billion dollar

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Speaker 12: US bailout for his country. British Polynigel Faraj also was

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Speaker 12: a long Pauline Hanson and Gina Ryan had attended the

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Speaker 12: Seapack conference at Marra Lago too, where they all feasted

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Speaker 12: on rare seafood, apparently in what was described as Trump

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Speaker 12: chocolate cake.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I saw the speech last week on viting Day,

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Speaker 2: and he looked like he's running and new some Newsom

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Speaker 2: seems to be heading towards twenty eight.

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Speaker 12: Even more aggressive campaigning. Yes, he took off for Texas

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Speaker 12: because the Texas electoral move is what triggered the California

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Speaker 12: response on Prop fifty and use him to a fairly

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Speaker 12: big crowd in Houston, where he said he understands the

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Speaker 12: slogan don't mess with Texas, but also says don't poke

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Speaker 12: the bear, as in the bear on the California state flag.

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Speaker 12: He grinned as there were shouts of Newsom twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 12: and he suddenly sounded like he's already on the campaign

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Speaker 12: tack talking policy.

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Speaker 13: That's going to be my focus, financial risk, cost of living,

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Speaker 13: and competitiveness.

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Speaker 12: Sound like a campaign stopped to you next, use some

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Speaker 12: heads to the climate conference in Brazil, while the Trump

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Speaker 12: administration is sending no one to that UN climate change event,

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Speaker 12: says Newsom.

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Speaker 15: Getting in for my kids and grandkids, for common sense

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Speaker 15: for our economic future.

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Speaker 12: Newsome also continued to slam Trump with sometimes bizarre social

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Speaker 12: media posts, including one where he portrays the President as

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Speaker 12: France's Antoinette, with a caption, good night peasants.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, and we'll see on Wednesday, Apprecia.

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Speaker 2: He's been busy over the weekend. Aubarn was there. They

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Speaker 2: seem to have done a deal where the sanctions imposed

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Speaker 2: on everybody on the Russian thing don't apply to Warbarn anymore.

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Speaker 2: Then he's not going to G twenty because he's fixated

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Speaker 2: with the white people in South Africa being persecuted and killed,

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Speaker 2: even though it's highly debatable whether the large numbers of

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Speaker 2: white South Africans are being persecuted and killed. Then we

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Speaker 2: come to Serbia, where the parliament passed a law over

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Speaker 2: the weekend that paves the way for a property development

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Speaker 2: by Jared Kushner in Belgrade, which is highly controversial, not

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Speaker 2: finished yet. And then we come to this morning's reportage

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Speaker 2: from Adam shepton O Less of ESPN. Trump wants the

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Speaker 2: Commander's Washington Football NFL to name their new stadium after him.

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Speaker 2: That would be a beautiful name, as it was President

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Speaker 2: Trump who made the rebuilding of the New state impossible.

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Speaker 2: This is Carolyn Levin. It's starting to get really really mental.

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Speaker 2: Ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Just putting Hadja for a second time. So it'll be

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Speaker 2: a two stop Will it be a two stop race?

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Speaker 2: They're going to go all the way to the end

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Speaker 2: on mediums. Difficult to say at this particular point in time.

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Speaker 2: Lawson is currently eighth, but the field is shaken up

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Speaker 2: with all of the various pit stops at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But that would be about right, wouldn't he. He's certainly

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Speaker 2: in the top ten. He'll be traveling while I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: there's one more pit stop to go before the end

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Speaker 2: of it. Piastre is still leading ahead of Norris, but

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Speaker 2: Piastre's got a ten second penalty. Antonelli is still up there,

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Speaker 2: Russell's still up there. Oliver Bearman is fifth, followed by

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Speaker 2: the Steppen just called it a day. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Hamilton's out, so Leclaar's out brought a Letto's out. Hamilton's out,

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Speaker 2: So if you can survive, you might do okay. By

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Speaker 2: the way, the election in Tanzania we told you about

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Speaker 2: last week where this woman Hassan won the vote with

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Speaker 2: about ninety eight ninety nine percent of the vote. Even

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Speaker 2: the African Union this morning because of course the people

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Speaker 2: are still on the street writing and killing each other.

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Speaker 2: And Tanzania, if you follow African politics, has been sort

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Speaker 2: of a beacon, if you like, for peace and stability

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Speaker 2: in Africa for years, and that all seems to have

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Speaker 2: gone up and smoke, and even the African Union have

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Speaker 2: come out and said there's something not right here, no kidding.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven, the ins.

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Speaker 16: And the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, a lot of interest in wall streets

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Speaker 2: opening tonight. Arrive to night. Our time analysts are standing

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Speaker 2: by the sea of all those AI losses of last

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Speaker 2: week can be gained back or the peak is over.

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Speaker 2: We got wiped well, two point one trillion of our

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Speaker 2: dollars got wiped off. Just eight of the largest tech stocks.

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Speaker 2: Last week worst week for wall streets and tables, Liberation

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Speaker 2: Day and the tariff announcement. NASDAK fell over three percent.

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Speaker 2: That's across the week, and video shares fell out of

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Speaker 2: seven percent. Pallanter fell over eleven percent, their worst week

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Speaker 2: since April. Oracle, who were on a tear, They're down

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Speaker 2: almost nine percent. They've arrested all their games after that

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Speaker 2: thirty six percent game back in September when they announced

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Speaker 2: the open aideal and everyone went, oh, that's right, Oracle.

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Speaker 2: I remember Oracle flying under the old radar. Microsoft down

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Speaker 2: over eight percent, well over eight percent, eight and a

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Speaker 2: half percent over eight days, now in track for its

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Speaker 2: longestreak of daily losses in fourteen years. Tesla, Amazon, Alphabet, Apple,

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Speaker 2: They're all down. Amazon is shedding staff like this not tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But don't worry, the robots will say, Tesla. Well, ever,

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Speaker 2: a guy can't put out a roadster. He'd started talking

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Speaker 2: about the roadster in twenty seventeen. Right, if he can't

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Speaker 2: put out a roadster, how's he selling a million bloody robots?

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Speaker 2: And come on? A consumer sentiment down six point three percent,

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Speaker 2: record laugh fifty two point three So that's still expansionary.

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Speaker 2: That's the last number, by the way, since nineteen fifty one.

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Speaker 2: It's a drop of over eleven percent in last month

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Speaker 2: and over thirty percent since last year. Overall confidence in

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Speaker 2: the economy lowest level than three years, which was when

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Speaker 2: inflation with US at its picture in COVID. But the

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Speaker 2: President will tell you everything's fantastic, Thanksgiving, dinner's never been better,

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Speaker 2: and all's well with the world. He's at the Commander's game,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that thing from a shifter. He's at

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Speaker 2: the Commander's game at the moment, and he's involved in

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Speaker 2: some sort of half time and funsie. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: how that goes. The meth announcement from the government. Is

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Speaker 2: this real or just a Sunday announcement? The Justice Minister

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Speaker 2: will as shortly the Prime Minister in the studio after

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Speaker 2: seven thirty right here on the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast, Credible, compelling, the breakfast show.

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Speaker 3: You can't bess.

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Speaker 1: It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Embraced the

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Speaker 1: impossible news.

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Speaker 3: Tom's dead bes.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven laws and currently fifth forty nine laps

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Speaker 2: gone of seventy one. But he will have to put again,

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Speaker 2: he's getting on increasingly old tires. Now to the news

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Speaker 2: of the weekend. What do we make of the so

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Speaker 2: called meth crackdown. Meth consumptions doubled in the past year.

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Speaker 2: The damage is estimated at one and a half billion.

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Speaker 2: We have joint maritime operations between Customs Defense and GUCSB,

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Speaker 2: boost of police enforcement, Tupper Border Security. Baul Goldsmith's Justice Minister.

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Speaker 2: It is with good morning morning Mike. In part of

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Speaker 2: the announcement yesterday, did anyone think about some penalties for

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Speaker 2: the people It's all very well, giving thirty million dollars out,

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Speaker 2: what about the people who peddle this nonsense and go

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Speaker 2: to jail? Did anyone think about penalties and increasing those.

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Speaker 17: Well, we've been doing that for the last two years.

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Speaker 17: You might recall that when we came and we brought

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Speaker 17: back three strikes legislation for the most serious repeat offenders,

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Speaker 17: and we also changed the sentencing lads to reduce the

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Speaker 17: amount of discounts that judges can offer to people who

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Speaker 17: are sentences.

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Speaker 2: So look, it've been very focused on that.

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Speaker 17: The hardening of our judicial response or legislative response has

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Speaker 17: already happened.

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Speaker 2: How much this is about yeah, how much of this

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Speaker 2: is offshore? In other words, these people who peddle the stuff,

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Speaker 2: make the stuff, shipp it out to this country will

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Speaker 2: never see them in our jurisdiction.

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Speaker 17: Well, well, I mean there are three basic elements to

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Speaker 17: our response. Which is trying to stop the stuff coming

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Speaker 17: in at the first place, which is working up in

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Speaker 17: the Pacific beyond, and that our borders to stop it coming.

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Speaker 17: And secondly, it's about the distribution within New Zealand, which

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Speaker 17: is around organized crime and gangs. And thirdly, it's about

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Speaker 17: reducing the demand for it and dealing with the demand

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Speaker 17: because you can you can spend your whole life focus

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Speaker 17: on the first two, but if you don't deal with

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Speaker 17: the demand, you're not going to get very far. That's

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Speaker 17: why it's a comprehensive plan looking at all those different angles.

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Speaker 2: What has happened to this country?

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Speaker 6: Pool?

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Speaker 2: I mean when you say it's double, method is doubled.

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Speaker 2: What on earth is going on? Well?

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Speaker 17: The main driver is that there's been a flood of

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Speaker 17: supply and the prime and that a.

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Speaker 2: Flooded supply of wine atque. I'm not buying that.

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Speaker 17: Explain that explains it?

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Speaker 8: Yep?

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Speaker 17: Look, I mean that there's an existential question you've got there, Mike,

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Speaker 17: and I don't have the answers to that, other than

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Speaker 17: the fact that this is a scourge on society that

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Speaker 17: we need to keep on battling against every day, finding

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Speaker 17: new ways to combat the organized criminals who are doing this,

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Speaker 17: but also dealing with the better rehabilitation, and actually, for

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Speaker 17: the first time, sending a clear message through a hard

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Speaker 17: hitting media campaign.

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Speaker 2: This is not a good idea to get involved in

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Speaker 2: any way. In all honesty, is a hard hitting media

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Speaker 2: campaign to your average Dare I suggest unemployed go no

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Speaker 2: where meth addict? Is that going to make one jot

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Speaker 2: of difference?

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Speaker 17: No, but it may stop some people taking the risk,

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Speaker 17: And no single thing on its own is going to

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Speaker 17: solve the problem. Of course, a campaign's not going to

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Speaker 17: deal with a hard and sort of meth addict, but

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Speaker 17: there may be a young person who's thinking about it

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Speaker 17: who if they get a clear message. This is not

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Speaker 17: something you could use moderately. It's not something just to

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Speaker 17: have a deal of a devil with. It's something to

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Speaker 17: avoid at all costs, because some people, just one SHOT's

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Speaker 17: enough to lead to a decade's long spiral of chaos

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Speaker 17: and destruction. And that's what we want to send a

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Speaker 17: clear message about.

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Speaker 2: Back at the start of this the Pacific slack. Are

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Speaker 2: you worried about what the Pacific do or won't do?

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Speaker 17: No, But it's challenging, definitely, very challenging. There's been a

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Speaker 17: huge increase coming from South America through the Pacific, and

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Speaker 17: so part of our responses to to get more forward

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Speaker 17: leaning with customs, the defense forces and our security forces

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Speaker 17: all pushing up into the Pacific in order to help

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Speaker 17: them deal with their situation before it comes to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: What are the KPIs on this? When do I get

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Speaker 2: you back to say you've done something tangible?

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean this is one of those things where

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Speaker 17: we have a hard measure and we can't escape it.

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Speaker 17: That is the waste water and responses. You know, it

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Speaker 17: doubled a year or so ago. It's come back a fraction,

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Speaker 17: but nowhere near back to where it needs to be.

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Speaker 17: And our gold courses to bend the curve right back

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Speaker 17: down and start to reduce the amount of meth and

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Speaker 17: in our wate water.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wish you well with the Paul Goldsmith, Minister

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Speaker 2: of Justice. Obviously a comment from the Prime Minister after

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Speaker 2: seven thirty this morning, it is eleven past seven. As

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Speaker 2: far as the border is concerned, Police Customs is going

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Speaker 2: to partner with the international agencies on this new task force.

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Speaker 2: Jamie Bamford, as the Customs Deputy Chief Executive Operations and

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Speaker 2: as well as Jamie Morning Morning might tell you, well,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Are we on the right track here? Is

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Speaker 2: this something There's something material going to come out of us? Yes?

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Speaker 14: I think so. I think this is just about making

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Speaker 14: New Zealand harder to reach for organized crime and just

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Speaker 14: hardening the border, and I think that will have an effect.

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Speaker 14: We have some excellent relationships with our international partners which

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Speaker 14: see them sees drugs headed towards New Zealand. Just this

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Speaker 14: year alone, nine hundred kilos of meths seized by our

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Speaker 14: partners headed for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: See. The thing that makes me suspicious of all of

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Speaker 2: this is we should be doing this anyway. Is there

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Speaker 2: something we're lacking? Is it attitude or money or equipment

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Speaker 2: or resource or what.

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Speaker 14: No, we are doing it already. What we're facing is

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Speaker 14: scale and an aggressive, well funded, agile organized crime. You know,

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Speaker 14: they move at the pace of technology. We kind of

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Speaker 14: move at the pace.

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Speaker 6: Of the law.

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Speaker 14: That's why we have some sort of legislation hopefully about

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Speaker 14: to hit the house. But I think this will give

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Speaker 14: us the ability to breach some gaps and as we

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Speaker 14: talk about the Pacific, actually be a bit more proactive,

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Speaker 14: have more presence out there on that vast ocean. That

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Speaker 14: just makes it, again New Zealand harder to reach.

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Speaker 2: What's the bigger problem from your point of view? Is

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Speaker 2: it the demand or is it the supply?

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Speaker 14: Probably, to be honest, I think this is quite a

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Speaker 14: supply driven issue. You know, organized crime is very entrepreneurial.

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Speaker 14: They see a market, we pay amongst the highest prices

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Speaker 14: in the world. They flood us. And then obviously we

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Speaker 14: have gangs here who are quite happy to payd all

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Speaker 14: this misery to some of our poorer areas. And then

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Speaker 14: it takes off and you know, we pay, as I say,

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Speaker 14: among the highest prices in the world. We're about one

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Speaker 14: hundred and twenty thousand dollars for a killer of meth wholesale.

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Speaker 14: It's about five to seven thousand dollars in the States.

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Speaker 2: Are we stupid? I mean, explain to me why not

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Speaker 2: only do we want to inhale meth or take myth

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Speaker 2: or whatever the case, but we're prepared to pay over

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Speaker 2: the old story. How stupid are we?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I couldn't really comment on that on that mic, but obviously,

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Speaker 14: you know the I think the gangs see the profit

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Speaker 14: in it, and they push it. And there's you know,

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Speaker 14: sort of some evidence about them pushing that rather than

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Speaker 14: the good old cannabis, et cetera, because there's more of

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Speaker 14: a margin in it, and when they've got your captive,

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Speaker 14: they can kind of get your hooked and exploit you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wish you were with it as well. Jaan, God,

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Speaker 2: it's depressing. We're such a bunch of backward nineties. Thirteen

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven. That's before we get to what I

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Speaker 2: regard is probably the most important story of the weekend

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Speaker 2: that virtually no one covered, apart from mister Traney, who

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Speaker 2: works with a herald, who warned us to what Ian

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Speaker 2: Rennie is saying the Treasury secretary. He says, we're not growing.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to grow out of this in terms

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Speaker 2: of the economy. We are not going to grow our

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Speaker 2: way out of the problem. We're currently in income. I'll

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Speaker 2: give you the debt numbers later. Actually I don't have

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Speaker 2: time for it now. But his point is we're going

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Speaker 2: to have to sell some massets. Now I'm going to

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Speaker 2: talk to the Prome minister about this, not in a

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Speaker 2: you know you're going to do you know, is this

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Speaker 2: going to be part of the election campaign? Oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, But in the trying to

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Speaker 2: have a serious discussion about this, he is arguing that

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Speaker 2: the only way we're going to dig our way out

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Speaker 2: of this hole is to sell some stuff. So the

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Speaker 2: list of stuff we have, and this is the problem,

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Speaker 2: starts with Rhodes. Now we're not selling our roads, hospitals,

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Speaker 2: from not selling those national parks, from not selling those classrooms,

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Speaker 2: from not selling those military equipment. So I'm going down

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Speaker 2: this listen and thinking what the hell is it were selling?

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Speaker 2: We get down eventually to Air New Zealand the Gen

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Speaker 2: Taylor's KiwiRail kiwibank and TV and Zaid TV and Z's

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Speaker 2: worth three cents. So I reckon, we're in a hell

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Speaker 2: of a spot here. So more shortly fourteen pasted the.

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Speaker 2: B Lawson currently seventh He's going to need to pitch

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Speaker 2: shortly and then it will be all on because the

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Speaker 2: top of the field of basically as far as I

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Speaker 2: can work out of finished petting. So the order currently

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Speaker 2: is Norris, Antonelli, Russell, the Stapp and Piastree, Berman, Lawson,

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Speaker 2: Holkenberg and Hedger for the top ten. Right. Still got

795
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Speaker 2: trouble the Cooks. Quickly we're pushing Moraid or pausing Morad.

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Speaker 2: Talks broke down again. This is all over China. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we paused eighteen million back in June. Now another payment's

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Speaker 2: been suspended, so we're up to thirty million. That's not

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Speaker 2: going their way. Steve Hoadley, international relations expert with the

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Speaker 2: Steve More, Good morning, Mike. How much of this is

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Speaker 2: Mark Brown versus just the Cooks generally?

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Speaker 15: Well, you wonder is it personality because Winston Peters has

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Speaker 15: a long history of agitation with the Cook Islands, going

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Speaker 15: way back to the wine box scandal, now when you

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Speaker 15: and I were just youths, and it's still going on

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Speaker 15: to the present day. But I think there's a serious

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Speaker 15: diplomatic issue here. Cook Islands has broken the protocol, has

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Speaker 15: violated the twenty twenty one agreement, has embarrassed New Zealand

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Speaker 15: by going and sunning these agreements with China and not

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Speaker 15: informing US. So I think Cook Islands are in the

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Speaker 15: wrong here.

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Speaker 2: And nobody disagrees with that. I don't think do they.

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Speaker 2: So basically is we waite for them to acquiesce or not,

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Speaker 2: And that's where it sits.

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Speaker 15: If they're not going to acquiesce, they're going to turn

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Speaker 15: to China, They're going to float a thirty million dollar

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Speaker 15: loan from China's Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank and go further

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Speaker 15: into debt to China, and Cook Islands is going to

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Speaker 15: slip away from New Zealand's influence.

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Speaker 2: And is that isolated to the Cooks or does that

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Speaker 2: then become a problem in the Pacific generally?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 15: Is the same things happening in Solomon Island's Visa VI Australia,

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Speaker 15: the same things happening in Palau the United States. Neither

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Speaker 15: of those two countries have suspended AID. New Zealand is

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Speaker 15: the only one to suspend AID, which I think just

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Speaker 15: opens the door for China to walk in further and

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Speaker 15: have more influence. So I'm not sure this is a

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Speaker 15: great idea.

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Speaker 2: Or I must to catch up pressure. Steve Hadley, international

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Speaker 2: relations expert by the way, just developing. The BBC Director

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Speaker 2: the Panorama scandal in which they did. I'm assuming most

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Speaker 2: up six points to two point four to three. So

866
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: if there's so much competition, how can the margins up?

867
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: Then came the claim from the Reserve Bank among others,

868
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: that the big banks are being tardy when it comes

869
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: to passing on the RB cuts to us punters. Now

870
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: smaller banks are sharper, apparently, SBS. They claims they've hoovered

871
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: up by almost six thousand new customers as changing banks

872
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: has become easier. Remember SBS last week put out their

873
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: three point nine to nine money limited to certain people,

874
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: but a market leader. Nevertheless, now tied into all of

875
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: this is the retail bank's long held argument that the

876
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: margins higher because they need the cushion because the reserve

877
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: bank makes them store away too much money for troubled times.

878
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: But but, but, but but those rules are changing and

879
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: changing in the retail bank's favor. In other words, less

880
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: money is required. Therefore, in theory smaller margins. You can

881
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: also put in there the simple truth that has always

882
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: been and play. There is nothing stopping us shopping around.

883
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: We have a good number of retail banks, and they

884
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: do do deals. I know, I've done deals. Some banks

885
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: will shave decent margins to get your business. Trouble is,

886
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of us are too lazy to try. Moaning,

887
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: you see, is easier than hustling. So who's right? Here?

888
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Are the retail banks tardy?

889
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 8: Is it?

890
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 2: A major issue? Is Nikola Willis right when she says things,

891
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: and by things she means rules need to change. I,

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: of course have long argued Willis's too much hype and

893
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: it's not all that bad. But I'll tell you what,

894
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm increasingly moving towards accepting that I might be wrong

895
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 2: on this, as the RB points out, as wholesale rates drop,

896
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: the margins have risen, and on latest numbers they are

897
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: keeping on rising. Maybe God forbid Adrian All was right

898
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: when he used to come on this program and lambas

899
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: the banks for making too many excuses. What I do

900
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: know is the conditions are increasingly right, either through the

901
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: wholesale rates or the changes to reserve bank rules for

902
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: us to see one the margins fall, and two the

903
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: cuts to be passed through in full and faster. The

904
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: longer that takes to happen, the more we need to

905
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: see the big banks potentially as a problem and bad

906
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: actors in the economy. Asking this is Davy from the BBC.

907
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: He's just quit over the Panorama scandal. He claims it's

908
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: entirely his decision. I am working through exact timings with

909
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: the board to allow for an orderly transition. I've been

910
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: reflecting on the very intense personal and professional demands of

911
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: managing this role over many years in these febril times,

912
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: combined with the fact that I want to give a

913
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: success a time to help shape the charter plans they'll

914
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: be delivering whatever overall the BBC is delivering well, but

915
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: there have been some mistakes made. But as Director General

916
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: I have to take the ultimate responsibility, so on that

917
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: good on him. The head of News is gone, as

918
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned Amima Togo, and I'm assuming those responsible within

919
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Panorama are being booted out the revolving door of the

920
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: BBC as we speak as well. But for every public

921
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: broadcaster in the world that labors under this apprehension that

922
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: they are so how biased and funnily enough, I shall

923
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: come back to Radio New Zealand in just a couple

924
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: of moments with the Prime Minister because they had a headline.

925
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: I read the boot Camp report on Friday. That didn't

926
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: get the coverage it deserved either, But I read the

927
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: boot Camp report. The Radio New Zealand headline is as follows.

928
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Implementation of boot Camp rushed report concludes that, in my

929
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: humble opinion, is one not the conclusion and two is

930
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: not true. So why is it a headline? And by

931
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: making it a headline is it biased?

932
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 15: More?

933
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Were the Prime Minister for you shortly?

934
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic

935
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently

936
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy three news talks head.

937
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Be Brazil's just finished.

938
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 18: Laws and is currently in seventh, but he is dragging

939
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 18: the rest of the fields towards the line. Here seventh

940
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 18: place is there for limb laws and super performance and

941
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 18: a want stop strategy.

942
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be the talking point for the day, the

943
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: one stop strategy, because he had old ties by the

944
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: end of it. So Norris won at Antonelli was second

945
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: and to staff and came from the back of the

946
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: field to come in third. So that is Brazil done

947
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: in Dustin for another year. Twenty three to eight. The

948
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: Prime Minister is Withersbury. Good morning to you, Mike. How

949
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: are you. I'm extremely well. A couple of quickies if

950
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: you wouldn't mind. India last week? Did we make progress

951
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: the things good? Are we going to get across the

952
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: line and win? Yeah?

953
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 19: Things are going on a good momentum, positive constructive. Minister

954
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 19: Goyel coming down here when he's probably most in demand

955
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 19: sort of man and trade around the world. And then

956
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 19: Todd McClay will go to India this week as well,

957
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 19: So we're making good progress. There's some tough negotiations going on,

958
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 19: as you could imagine, but we're very committed to getting

959
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 19: it done.

960
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: Good as talking to Katie over the weekend, we we

961
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: surmised that it was this last Saturday, this previous Saturday,

962
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: will be the election next year?

963
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 9: Was that?

964
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: Your guess is that you again early November sex or

965
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: seven of November where we can I'll come out and

966
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: announce it earlier in the new year. Do you reckon?

967
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: But I mean again, right, any thought at all? Are

968
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: you going to No, I'll do that over summer. None whatsoever. No,

969
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: I'll give but do you go as long as possible?

970
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: Would you? We'll see. Let's what we're a go early

971
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: is you're not going to put on this. You're not

972
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: going to call a snap election, aren't you? Now?

973
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 19: Now, did you read the boot Camp report. I haven't

974
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 19: had a chance to read it fully, but I know

975
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 19: what's been going.

976
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: What's been going? What would your summation of it be? Yeah?

977
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 19: Look good if it some good things that work really

978
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 19: well on the residential components. In fact, we'd like to

979
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 19: put more of that stuff into the broader youth justice facilities.

980
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 19: Some real challenges when the kids came out and went

981
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 19: into the community again. And now we've got our yso

982
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 19: legislation coming through, we'll actually have a new cohort starting

983
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 19: up in the boot camps earlier in the new year, and.

984
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: We hope to sort of perfect it.

985
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 19: But at the end of the day, look, I'm going

986
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 19: to keep trying these things because actually the message we've

987
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 19: sent young people is that youth offendings down sixteen percent,

988
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 19: RAM raids are down eighty five percent, and this is

989
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 19: an important element of it.

990
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: So here's here's the reason I raised this one. It

991
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: was I read the summation of it and it seemed

992
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: to have the good and the bad and bits and pieces,

993
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: and so that that's what I would have expected. Radio

994
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand's headline was implementation of boot camp rushed. Report

995
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: concludes that that is not the conclusion, though, is it.

996
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: It's mentioned, but it's not the conclusion.

997
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 19: No, the conclusion is I think, you know, there were

998
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 19: some parts that worked well, some parts that need to

999
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 19: be improved, but it's an important element. And the bigger

1000
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 19: point is that when did you last see serious youth

1001
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 19: offending down sixteen percent in this country?

1002
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Exactly? So my concern again is that this is a

1003
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: state funded organization that is showing a level of bias

1004
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: that I would be concerned about. Are you concerned about that?

1005
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: Because if I saw the headline as a punch in

1006
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: New Zealand, I go right, government waste of money.

1007
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 19: Yet again, Mike, if I got bent out of shave

1008
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 19: every time I have a negative headline from the good.

1009
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: Stuff the government, it's not a negative headline. It's a

1010
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: false negative headline. And that's the key to it. Is

1011
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: it that that's a question for people in media.

1012
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 19: If you had a media watch organization, would be a

1013
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 19: good discussion to have with them. For me, I've got

1014
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 19: to get on and actually get youth a fending down.

1015
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you from summation of the report, though, is

1016
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: there enough because the criticism was that you're spending quite

1017
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: a lot on it bang for buck. Is there enough

1018
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: good in there to justify I think there is.

1019
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 19: One of the big takeaways was the community stuff and

1020
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 19: the support we were able to give those kids when

1021
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 19: they're unresidential was really fantastic. We'd like to extend that residential,

1022
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 19: I suspect, but there are principles in the way and

1023
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 19: that support that we give those kids that we should

1024
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 19: build into the youth justice facilities permanently. Anyway, and so

1025
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 19: that's where we've oftenly got to get to. But it's

1026
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 19: one element, and what I'm proud about is genuinely the

1027
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 19: fact that it's down sixteen percent, which is fantastic.

1028
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: The Cooks. I wonder if Peaters is wrong. Peters has

1029
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: long argued friendship counts. I don't think it does. Doesn't.

1030
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 19: Well, the issue here is we're good with the Cook Islands.

1031
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 19: People love them, fantastic, but we're very frustrated with the

1032
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 19: Cook Islands. Government is a government or Brown. It's promise

1033
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 19: of Brown and his government. He represents that government. I mean,

1034
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 19: we have an issue, which is that we have a

1035
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 19: responsibility constitutionally for the defense and security of the realm,

1036
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 19: which includes the Cooks. Is one of the realm countries.

1037
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 19: We provide budget money to them on the basis of trust.

1038
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 19: Our trust has been broken. We want that restored.

1039
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not going to be. That's my point.

1040
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: We all know, and I don't think anyone disputes the

1041
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: Cooks are in the wrong here, but thirty million clearly

1042
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: accounts for nothing. He couldn't give a monkey. Well, let's

1043
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: find out, I mean, well we are finding out.

1044
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 19: Well, we've escalated it, and so we want those officials

1045
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 19: working together to get those give us the mitigations that

1046
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 19: we want and the trust are restored.

1047
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, was yesterday on the myth just a Sunday announcement

1048
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: because I can't work out what the problem is. Myth's

1049
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: not new, the boiler is not new, the problems aren't new.

1050
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean why all.

1051
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 19: Sudden were shifted. I mean, one is you've had a

1052
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 19: doubling of meth consumption. Maybe other drugs are down, myths

1053
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 19: up because it's cheap, but relative to the rest of

1054
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 19: the world, myth in New Zealand is expensive. We're up

1055
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 19: against now big Mexican drug cartels that are actually sending

1056
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 19: boat submarines into.

1057
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: The Pacific, but none that's new. Well, well, it suddenly.

1058
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 19: Has changed a lot from what I would understand what

1059
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 19: it was five years ago versus where we sit today

1060
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 19: in the last two years, and it needed a serious response.

1061
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 19: That's why I tasked those ministers in March and say, look,

1062
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 19: we've got to do something different. In addition to everything

1063
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 19: else it's gone going on, there are some things that

1064
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 19: we can do differently about and then working with our partners.

1065
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 19: I mean, if you talk to the Prime Minister of

1066
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 19: somemr as I did last week. You know it was

1067
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 19: a new prime minister, very much on his agenda. Tom

1068
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 19: is concerned, Fiji's concerned, Australia's concerned.

1069
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: We're concerned. So we've got to work together on that.

1070
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: One of the things we've held off on doing until

1071
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: we saw what happened in Australia. I'm assuming you're aware

1072
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: of this. The under sixteen social media ban. The tech

1073
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: company's acquiesced. So will we go forward with that now? Yes,

1074
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: we will. We go forward with that.

1075
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 19: We'll have a version and put some legislation in place

1076
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 19: before the election.

1077
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: The local content subsidy are they acquiesced on last week

1078
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Speaker 2: in Australia as well? So your Netflix is going to

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Speaker 2: pay you ten percent of their income and they're going

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00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: to make local production. Can we do that here now?

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Speaker 2: Is something that Goldsmith will look at?

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Speaker 16: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Is he still looking at He does a lot of

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Speaker 2: looking that guy. I mean he's done a good job

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Speaker 2: on myth.

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00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 19: Just on Sunday he has Why are you so skipped

1087
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 19: about the myth?

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00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: Well, because it's not a new problem and it's like

1089
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: it's been going on for years. I'm not saying it's

1090
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: not a serious problem. It's been going on for years, and

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00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: the problem is massive, and thirty million dollars on a

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00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon via press release doesn't materially I mean what

1093
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: we should be asking is not necessarily a faulding. But

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00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 2: I mean we pay more in this country for meth

1095
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: than anywhere in the world and the amounts doubled. How

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00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 2: stupid are we? Yeah, I mean, come on, well.

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Speaker 19: The fact is that our prices in New Zealand have fallen,

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00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 19: but they're still seven to fifteen times high, and they

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00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 19: are in North America, and that's why it's attractive for

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Speaker 19: those international crime organizations to move into this part of

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Speaker 19: the world, which we haven't seen before in the levels.

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Speaker 19: There's something about us, though, doesn't it. What's that in

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Speaker 19: terms of New Zealand as a country. Well, it may

1104
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 19: well do. But the point is that's a problem. It's

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00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 19: impacting individuals, families and communities and we've got to try

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Speaker 19: something anyway.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, back to Goldsmith, so the local subsidy. They also

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Speaker 2: in Australia last week announced a journalist fun as well.

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00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: All I'm asking is that was stuff we were waiting

1110
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: on to see if it was going to work in

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00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: Australia appears to be going to work in Australia. So

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Speaker 2: as a result, will we now push forward on those

1113
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: three things? I suspect here we wanted to progress those things. Yep, okay, good.

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00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: Renny Ian says, we are not going to grow our

1115
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: way out of this. We need to sell some stuff.

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00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 19: You're talking about the report about asset sales fromich Istry

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00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 19: last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

1119
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 19: Look, I mean I think well, first and foremost I've

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Speaker 19: said we're not going to do asset sales this term.

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Speaker 19: We've got an election policy to develop for twenty six.

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Speaker 19: I think your points are fair one, which is and

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Speaker 19: the report's a good challenge, which is actually I think

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Speaker 19: we need to have quite a mature conversation about assets

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Speaker 19: in New Zealand. I think it's been a very simplistic

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Speaker 19: one of you either flog them off or you keep them.

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00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 19: But you and I don't have the same cars that

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Speaker 19: we had when we first started, and we don't keep

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Speaker 19: our assets forever. And actually, when you look at what

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00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 19: k saver funds do or super funds do, they rotate

1131
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 19: assets through a portfolio, you know we should be thinking

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00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 19: about whether that's the right thing for us to be

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Speaker 19: doing too.

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Speaker 2: How would we do that? Because in looking at the list,

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00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean the roads, the hospitals, the national parks. That's

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00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: not real as far as I can work out, correct

1137
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. But in New Zealanders, Gen Taylor's

1138
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: are Kiwi railers, Kiwi bankers, TV and Z although it's

1139
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: not worth anything is yeah? Is that where you look? Yeah?

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00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 19: I mean, first and foremost, I don't think our government

1141
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 19: agencies do a very good job of managing their assets

1142
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 19: in general. In fact, we're the fourth worst and the

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Speaker 19: OECD and running an asset management Fifty percent of our

1144
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 19: most capital intensive agencies haven't had asset management plans, which

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00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 19: means they don't even know what they own and where

1146
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 19: the assets actually are. But if you look at something

1147
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 19: like Palmu, which is a whole bunch of farmland that

1148
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 19: the government owns and runs, why do we do that

1149
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 19: agriminal Because like for the next out to what twenty

1150
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 19: thirty one, we're going to have high prices for protein

1151
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 19: and red meat. We're pretty bad, I imagined as a government

1152
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 19: run farm relative to other farmers doing that job much better.

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00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 19: And that could give young farmers an opportunity to get

1154
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 19: into some land. So then you say, the money that

1155
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 19: we get out of that might be better spent building

1156
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 19: out a road that actually ends up creating a whole

1157
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 19: bunch of economical on that track.

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Speaker 2: Do you go though? That's I mean, Palm is probably

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00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 2: your best example, But you go down to Jim Taylor's

1160
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: the politics gets in play, doesn't it. Yeah, there will

1161
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: be a whole bunch of politics.

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Speaker 19: But I think I'd like to keep it a level

1163
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 19: up and have a principled conversation reckon you can do that?

1164
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to.

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00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 19: Try, because I think when you look at Tamasak, which

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00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 19: you labor, had a policy a couple of weeks ago

1167
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 19: on what they call their future fund where they said,

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00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 19: we're going to put all these assets together in a bucket,

1169
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 19: but then they're not going to rotate or recycle the assets.

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00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 19: Well to mark success is it from nineteen seventy four,

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00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 19: I think.

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00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: It was to today?

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00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 19: They've cycled assets in and out of that portfolio in

1174
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 19: much the same way a super fund does.

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: Or key we say that, do you agree with the

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00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: I just don't want to get into this clickbake discussion

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: about who's going to see all assets because this is

1178
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: too important for This is really broadly speaking correct though.

1179
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 19: I think it's a good challenge. I think there is

1180
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 19: a lot that we can do around government efficiencies. For sure,

1181
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 19: We've got a hell of a long way to go

1182
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 19: still there. I think we can grow the economy quickly.

1183
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 19: But I think this is a legitimate, good conversation for

1184
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 19: us to have. But it needs to be more mature

1185
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 19: than what we've had in the past, which is it

1186
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 19: does become political really quickly. It becomes very emotive very quickly.

1187
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 19: But there is genuine case for if you look at

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00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 19: the success stories of Singapore and other places, you know,

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00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 19: recycling assets so that actually the New Zealand tax payer

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 19: gets money from assets that then is deployed to another

1191
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 19: assets that actually creates value for.

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00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 2: Them that is more useful for them. That's that's good.

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Speaker 19: And as I said, it's like I think about this morning,

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00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 19: it's like no different from you, I said a nineteen

1195
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 19: sixty two Riley off. I don't own it anymore, you know,

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00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 19: so you track, you know, you don't own your assets forever.

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00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: Good to see you. You're not seeing anything big this week?

1198
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: Well you got anything? You're on the bubble this week?

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Speaker 2: You know this, don't you know this? Can I just

1200
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: give you one small piece of advice in question time

1201
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: hardened up when they asked you last week about that

1202
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: homeless thing. Yeah, I saw it was only a review

1203
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: to make that movement. But I own it and answer

1204
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: the question. Well, I have owned it because I'm very

1205
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: afterwards at the time, you know. But the question I

1206
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: was asked, is am I banning homelessness passing the laws

1207
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: technically tex So here's the question you asked me. I

1208
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: know I'm not. We haven't passed a law on that.

1209
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: We haven't discussed it. But I'll tell you what we do.

1210
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: Downtown Auckland's buggered and I'm going to st I'm going

1211
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: to clean it up and we to start next week.

1212
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: Sit back down, hipkins, I'm in charge. That's that's where

1213
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: you're going with that.

1214
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 8: All right?

1215
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for the one. I want to take it all.

1216
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: Leave it twelve minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by the News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes away now, It's not what am I saying.

1221
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: It's nine minutes away from eight. A very good piece

1222
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: of reading over the weekend Bruce Cottrel which I read

1223
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: every weekend or every weekend he's in the paper. He's

1224
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: talking about the MALAYSI I mean, it's not related to

1225
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: the method, is kind of. I mean to the extent

1226
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: that there's a collection of New Zealanders who simply don't

1227
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: want to get out of their own way, and I

1228
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: just don't know what to do about it, in the

1229
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: sense that it's all very well saying and here is

1230
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars and we're going to do lord knows what.

1231
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: But I was just trying to point out that the

1232
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: prime minters and none of this is new We heard,

1233
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: writes Bruce, that the average employee takes six and a

1234
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: half days of sickly per year, but government workers take

1235
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: eight point four. Why the difference? Good question. We used

1236
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: to say that having a job was a privilege, but

1237
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: at the time when we need everyone contributing, we're seeing

1238
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: too many people failing to treat it that way. With

1239
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: the proliferation of privately owned businesses in New Zealand, we

1240
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: would do well to remind ourselves that there are plenty

1241
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: of employers out there at the moment paying their people

1242
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: in full despite depressed profits. While they themselves go without

1243
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: excellent point, So why are we so disillusioned with work?

1244
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: It's pretty easy to come to the conclusion that we

1245
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: just don't want to work anymore. And so goes the

1246
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: Great New Zealand Malaise. It's a very good read, well

1247
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: worth it. Seven away from.

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Speaker 1: It, the Mike Honking Breakfast with the Defender and use

1249
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: togs deadbs Mike.

1250
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: The reality is any cash generator from government asset sales

1251
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: will disappear in the public service and welfare black hole,

1252
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: like the one point nine billion for mental health. Better

1253
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: to fix productivity first, Yeah, I'd like to think that's true,

1254
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: but we've been trying to fix productivity for the last

1255
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: twenty thirty years in this country. In fact, we've been

1256
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: trying to work out what exactly productivity is. Mike selling

1257
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: the assets bad idea. Once they're gone, no getting them back.

1258
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: I say no to selling off on TIRA. Well, that

1259
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: wasn't your choice, that wasn't a public asset. Fontira is

1260
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: owned by the farmers. That's why Woodston didn't quite understand that. Mike.

1261
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: One of the biggest issues facing Luckson is he's trying

1262
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: to please everyone, including those who will never vote for him.

1263
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: He lets the media get away with Endles Scotchia questions,

1264
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: he looks weak, Mike Luxon, how can you not like him?

1265
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: Fair enough? Mike good On, you love that finishing touch. Well,

1266
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm glad he saw it because hopefully it will do

1267
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: something about it, because if you go back to question

1268
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: Time last week, he wasn't there for a couple of days,

1269
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: and Seymour was. No one loves the moment like Seymour

1270
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: when he's playing Prime Minister, asking the questions, in fact,

1271
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: to the point where the speaker continually goes back questions

1272
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: and that answers too long. He's just got to own

1273
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: the moment more as my advice, But as I said

1274
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: as he left the studio, take it a letter. Andrew

1275
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: Saville Jason Pine in the commentary.

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Speaker 18: Lando Norris wins the South.

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Speaker 22: Hell of Drown.

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Speaker 18: Saventh places there the more leam Lawson super performance and

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Speaker 18: a wan star spread. He holds off his teammate Isaac Catch.

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Speaker 1: After the Monday Morning commentary barks with Spears Finance, Smart

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Speaker 1: Asset and Equipment Finance for Kiwi Businesses.

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Speaker 2: And Jason Pine. Morning to you, Good morning, Andrew Sebill, Greetings,

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Speaker 2: Hello Michael, how are you very well? Indeed our some

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Speaker 2: was at Murrayfield said you could hear a pin drop

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Speaker 2: when the bagpipe started. And the Scottish very respectful of

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks, particularly respectful of the Harker. And he's

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Speaker 2: been at a game in London and the Poems compared

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Speaker 2: to the Scots and Boorish, and it was a great day.

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Speaker 2: And it was the best day he had had in

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Speaker 2: Edinburgh in the three years he's been in Edinburgh.

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Speaker 4: Wow, it's a great experience Murrayfield when the All Blacks

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Speaker 4: are playing. They've been here a couple of times. And

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Speaker 4: the Flower of Scotland the anthem when they sing that

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Speaker 4: if there was a roof it would lift off. It's

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Speaker 4: up there with the Welsh national anthem in the French

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Speaker 4: in Paris. So I'm please a good time. He got

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Speaker 4: home safely, he did.

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Speaker 2: He called from the pub and he very very chatty

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Speaker 2: at the pub. And one of the things he was

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Speaker 2: telling us that that the buzz, the buzz at the

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Speaker 2: pub was that the All Blacks cheats is too strong

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Speaker 2: a word, but the Three Yellows were deserved and they

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Speaker 2: don't play a game that the Scottish were impressed with. Well,

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: three yellows, Jason, you can't argue they're all fair yellows.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't They don't go round tripping people and you know,

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Speaker 2: chasing the ball when you know you're not supposed to.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, Leroy Carter's one was probably the silliest of the three.

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Speaker 23: Wallace a tea. I hate the rule that you get

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Speaker 23: a yellow card for a knockdown, but they know the

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Speaker 23: rule and that's four yellow cards for the All Blacks

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Speaker 23: this year. Now for that very thing. So while the

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Speaker 23: rule might be you know in question, they know they

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Speaker 23: have to do better. It was sort of three parts really.

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Speaker 23: The first half all Blacks were good minutes forty to sixty,

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Speaker 23: Scotland came back into it, could have perhaps should have won,

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Speaker 23: and then it was the Damien McKenzie show that got

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Speaker 23: ushigh mercule and from him five minutes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just that was out of this world.

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Speaker 4: You know, we see we see Dallan for the Worry

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Speaker 4: as another NROL players you know, fly in the year

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Speaker 4: and they what they do is extraordinary, but that was

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Speaker 4: something else to actually to actually stop and let the

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Speaker 4: defenders go through them basically and then twist around and

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Speaker 4: plant it with his left hand and stay in. It's

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Speaker 4: quite extraordinary. He often gets bad, Damien m kins. I

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Speaker 4: don't know why, but when he started at teen last

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Speaker 4: year in the end, I think people were quite hard

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Speaker 4: and stuck the boot in a bit. But I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you what, he's a he's a match when it and

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Speaker 4: he does stuff that other players can't.

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Speaker 23: He was his role, isn't it twenty three twenty three

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Speaker 23: on his back. I know that he's a first five

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Speaker 23: and can play fall back. But for me guys that

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Speaker 23: that is his best position, isn't it coming off the

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Speaker 23: bench in whichever way finish Yeah, I finish it. And

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Speaker 23: to do things like that. He's a good clutch goalkicker.

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Speaker 23: He nailed that one from what fifty out with blood

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Speaker 23: pouring out of his face at the end.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 23: I just think for now, you, Damien McKenzie, you are

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Speaker 23: out impact twenty three players.

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Speaker 4: They should have been up by thirty five forty probably

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Speaker 4: the All Blacks with the amount of ball and chances

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Speaker 4: they had. There just seems to be this. I've discussed

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Speaker 4: it with you before the third quarter of games. They

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Speaker 4: seem to go under the sheds and then come back

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Speaker 4: out a little confused or were too much going on

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Speaker 4: up top and they lose their way. But you've got

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Speaker 4: to hand it to them. They soaked up that pressure,

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Speaker 4: immense pressure at seventeen all yep, to just not blink

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Speaker 4: and then go on and win the game.

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Speaker 3: Now that's it.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to go all the way. I

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Speaker 2: know England's a thing, and I know England a better

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Speaker 2: than Scotland. Yea, yeah, yeah, but I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to be. Okay, you as a big guy, sav who

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Speaker 2: is pacing and yet doesn't obviously look so you can

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Speaker 2: under answer me this question.

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Speaker 20: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm pacy, but don't look.

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Speaker 2: So well it's the Titi. So I've only sort of

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Speaker 2: seen somebody said the other day his prodigious speed, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, what And he clearly is fast, but he

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Speaker 2: doesn't look at does he?

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 9: He?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a he's a he's he's an athlete.

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Speaker 4: I've seen him a few times without his shirt on

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Speaker 4: and he is built.

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Speaker 2: Right was he on the field or is it your place?

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Speaker 15: What was going?

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Speaker 4: But he's very he's a good ballhand. Look that that

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Speaker 4: game he played bar the yellow card, that game was

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Speaker 4: right up there with some of his performances from last year.

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Speaker 4: He's just taken a while to get into it this year.

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Speaker 4: I think second year syndrome sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But he is fast, yeah, quick. But you know how

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Speaker 2: some guys look fast, some guys don't. He's one of

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Speaker 2: those guys. He's clearly fast just and looked that fast

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Speaker 2: litt all.

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Speaker 4: He reminds a bit of a Kira Yowani who was

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Speaker 4: a big, big lump of a lad. But he was

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Speaker 4: quick too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, I need to talk to you about that

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Speaker 2: home derby thing in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: Talks, He talks at me. Sixteen past eight the Monday

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Speaker 2: Morning Commentary Barks with Spears.

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Speaker 3: It's smart asset and equipment fine adds for Kiwi.

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Speaker 2: Businesses Andrewsbral Jason Pine, Jason, can we conclude now that

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Speaker 2: Auckland is simply a better side than Wellington and no

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Speaker 2: matter how often they play, that's how it's going to work.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I think we can probably make that assessment. Wellington

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 23: Phoenix must wonder if they're ever going to win one

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01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 23: of these things. You know, had a great chance on

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Speaker 23: Saturday night, you know, down to ten Auckland f C.

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Speaker 23: Then down to nine. Great energy in the ground. It

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Speaker 23: was a terrific occasion. I saw some reports that the

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01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 23: crowd wasn't great and numbers wise maybe not, but noise

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Speaker 23: wise tremendous. I think Auckland FC, if anything, are a

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Speaker 23: better team than they were last year when they got

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01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 23: within a game of the Grand Final having won the

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01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 23: Premiers Play. I mean to hold off a home team

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Speaker 23: with nine men for decent and portion of the game,

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Speaker 23: but also to score the goals that they did. Yeah,

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 23: they are. They are streets ahead of Wellington Phoenix at

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Speaker 23: the moment and the best team in the A League

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01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 23: for mine.

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Speaker 4: I love I love the drama at the in mics,

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01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 4: Jason mentioned they were down to nine and they were

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 4: amped on their goal line. Basically all the players were back.

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01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 4: They're trying to soak up time. I think it was

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01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 4: nine or ten minutes, added Jason. Wasn't it commentary was

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: all right too.

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01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: That added a bit of drama. You've got to get

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: the good commentators. And I didn't see it. But this

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01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: this cricket the black Caps Windys they said no one

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01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: was there. And then I'm reading about this new Rebel

1434
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: was it right?

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01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 4: The crowd and Nelson yesterday was pretty good?

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01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Then I'm reading about the New Rebel Cricket League,

1437
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: and then Williamson was retiring but not retiring. There's too

1438
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: much cricket. It's like it's like I don't even know

1439
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: what's going on anymore between one Day and Odie Ies and.

1440
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: But look, I'm looking forward to test matches. That's that's

1441
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: the that's the key is that case. But then, but

1442
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 4: then there's no cricket until about March.

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01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, what I mean, why do we need it?

1444
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: Do we need a new rebel league funded by more

1445
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: Indian money? Man continue?

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: It was if it was in January, the mid feb

1447
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 4: in New Zealand and it had the best play, well

1448
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 4: the best ki we was playing and I think they

1449
01:06:59,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 4: would add a bit of interest.

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: What Yeah, Because I was arguing with the Prime Minister

1451
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: as well. He came in and goes, oh, you see

1452
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: the league last night? I said, I get up at

1453
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: two thirty. Stop hassling me and and it's like this

1454
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: was a stupid competition that involved nobody. And so we

1455
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: played some more in Australia. In Australia wasn't even in

1456
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: the competition?

1457
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 3: Was that about?

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Speaker 16: It was?

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 4: What It's fantastic that all these nur role players are

1460
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 4: playing with the country of their heritage and last night's

1461
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 4: game was super. The Kiwi's effort in the second half

1462
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 4: was outstanding. Dylan Brown signed for the Newcastle Knights for

1463
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 4: what twelve or thirteen million? I thought, what on earth

1464
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 4: are they doing? This guy is a handy player, but

1465
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 4: last night he was on fire. I've never seen a

1466
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a test performance like that for a

1467
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 4: very very long time from one individual player. So I

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 4: thought it was a great game.

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: Did fore And play well?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 4: He did yet last game of it, Yeah, he played well.

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Speaker 4: Kean o' kenny, the young Titans fullback, he had an

1473
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 4: outstanding game as well. They were down at half time

1474
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 4: and they blew somewhere away in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Great performance. Do you see it, Jason Iman? You see

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01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: Karen Foran's neck. It's an incredible neck.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's a great neck. One of the great necks,

1478
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 23: one of the great careers. Over three hundred first grade games,

1479
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 23: thirty odd tests. Clearly emotional at the end of it.

1480
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 23: You would be, wouldn't you watch? I watched the game.

1481
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 4: I thought, did I did?

1482
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 23: The someone fans boo, the boo the harker at the

1483
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 23: start is what happened.

1484
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like teachers and that guy last week at

1485
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: their conference. Why is everyone booing people? What's the matter

1486
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: with them?

1487
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 23: It has the desired effect, it doesn't have the desired effect. Hey,

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 23: Liam Lawson this morning and over, we're probably going to

1489
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 23: get to it. I might lead us there if it's okay.

1490
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 23: Mike Seventh this morning, that seventh.

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Speaker 2: When you start seventh, he started seventh, finished seventh. The

1492
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: story for him is that he was milking his tires

1493
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: to the end because if he'd gone another pit stop,

1494
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have finished seventh.

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Speaker 5: So to hold hold.

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01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Finally some of their strategy actually worked today, correct.

1497
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah or not? You know that is true? And

1498
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: had you What was important was Sonoda was nowhere and

1499
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 2: Hadger was actually started ahead of Lawson but finished behind him.

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Speaker 2: So all of that stacks up well. And from all

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01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: the commentary I saw over the weekend, there is a

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: general sense that he's done enough. If you want an

1503
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: up and coming team, this is for next year. If

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Speaker 2: you want an up and coming team, which is what

1505
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: Racing Bulls is, you got a guy called Liam Lawson

1506
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: who's only into his second season, and you got Lynd

1507
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: Vladd who's in his first season. Why do you need

1508
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: a guy called Sonoda who's in his fifth season without

1509
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: the money from Honda, So don't worry about it. So

1510
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: that's how that's going to play it up.

1511
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 4: So no, to give it up.

1512
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 23: What did he finish seventeenth?

1513
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 4: I know it's hard to drive, Well, it's the car.

1514
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean if you look at the if you look

1515
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: at the warm up in the practice, Vastapan was at

1516
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: the back of the field as well. Both those Red

1517
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: Bull cars are absolutely useless. They rebuilt the Stappin's car overnight,

1518
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: literally as an engine the whole lot. So that's why

1519
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: he started at the back of the field. He took

1520
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: a penalty on it because they knew if he could

1521
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: get a decent car it could end up which he

1522
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: has in third. Whereas they couldn't give a monkeys about

1523
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: Sonoda because he's nowhere anyway. So he got nothing, and

1524
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: so he started at the back of the field ended

1525
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: at the back of the field. I mean, it must

1526
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: be a miserable time, mustn't he last three races to go?

1527
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: Everyone know, you know, you know, everyone hates you, and

1528
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: you're on your way out and it's just like, you know,

1529
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: don't de doooill.

1530
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 4: I still think it's extraordinary mite and no, We've mentioned

1531
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: this time and time again, but that here's this young

1532
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 4: key in the thick of it, Hamilton and Fernando Alonzo

1533
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 4: and he's beating guys like that, and he's tussling with

1534
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 4: guys like that. It's still it's extraordinary and.

1535
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: That's the stuff that they will see. I mean, when

1536
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: you've got a guy who's can can hold the field

1537
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: on tires that are gone, that skill and that's what

1538
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: you're investing in, and that's why he will have a

1539
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: seat next season, because he deserves to be there. I

1540
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: think had you the good news stories of the season

1541
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: are Lawson had your and to a lesser degree, Barman there.

1542
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: As far as the rookies go and those who have delivered,

1543
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: they're the ones who deserve to be there in twenty

1544
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: twenty six. As far as I can work out the

1545
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't have time to raise this, but I was

1546
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: going to raise the Scott Barrett thing, the non playing sabbatical.

1547
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: What's that about?

1548
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 4: Oh, that was signposted earlier in the year. Well, he

1549
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 4: signed a new deal, right and as part of the contract.

1550
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys who've been around a long

1551
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 4: time to have the ability to go and play overseas

1552
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: and come back.

1553
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: Or take but non playing though, you lose your touch.

1554
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 4: He's been through a lot the body of his Oh,

1555
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 4: for goodness sake, Sorry, they'll be okay.

1556
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 23: Sorry, I think they'll be okay, the Crusaders without him there.

1557
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sorry for disagreeing with everything you've seen this morning, mate,

1558
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 4: but you know that happens sometimes happened with the.

1559
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: Prime Minister as well. It's it's I'm starting to think it's.

1560
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 4: Me hey mate. The chocolate senders have been starting to

1561
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: appear in the supermarket, so you'll be on leave soon.

1562
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: Maybe you can cry, Ah, I love you, shame you

1563
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: not back next to you. So nice to see you.

1564
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 2: Andrew Savill and Jason Pine eight twenty six.

1565
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: My Costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talk sid be.

1566
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: Now, if you've been looking to move into a retirement village,

1567
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 2: you might be wondering if you can bring the old

1568
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: beloved pet with you. Will A conversation and meeting with

1569
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: a village manager to meet you pet for suitability could

1570
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: see you and your pet making a new home in

1571
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: one of our beats thirty four Living will communities across

1572
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: this beautiful country could be dog catbird pets settle easily

1573
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 2: into the avida villages. As you would imagine, there's always

1574
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: plenty of beautifully landscape, gardens and pathways to take the

1575
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: dogs for a regular walk. Are the r VEDA team.

1576
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: They understand how important the pets are to their owners.

1577
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: Very important for them to meet your pet and make

1578
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 2: sure they are the perfect fit for the retirement community.

1579
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: So just think of all the dog walkers and pet

1580
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 2: sitters that you'll have when the neighbors fall in love

1581
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: with your pet as well. To find out more about

1582
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: Arvida and a book a tour of any one of

1583
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: their thirty four r Vida communities across the country are

1584
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: Veda dot co dot in z. That is our Veda

1585
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: dot Co dot in z. Pasking number of you saying

1586
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: what about Antonelli? I discount Antonelli. Yes, he's a talent.

1587
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: Of course he's a talent. He's a ratic, he was

1588
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: a ratic in the early part of the season, is

1589
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: coming right now. But you have to discount him to

1590
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: the extent that Beerman's in a slower car, Liam's in

1591
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: a slower car, and Nelly's in a Mercedes, and you

1592
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: can stick anyone in a fast car and they'll do

1593
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: reasonably well. John Laws probably the most famous, effective and

1594
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: successful broadcaster of the modern age in Australia. Alan Jones

1595
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: might have something to say about that. But then things

1596
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: went awry for Ellen towards the end of the career

1597
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: and still to unfold. So John Laws has died overnight

1598
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,919
Speaker 2: at the age of ninety. Also, rich Oh Graham Richardson

1599
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 2: died over the weekend. Steve Price with Moore.

1600
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: Shortly opinionated, informed, unapologetic if the mic asking Breakfast with

1601
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: the Defender embraced the impossible news Toms dead.

1602
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: Be Friday Stateside. The woman who was shot a Virginia's

1603
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: school teacher. She was shot by the six year old.

1604
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 2: That was the reason it became headlines all over the world.

1605
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: Of course, she sued for forty million and she got

1606
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: ten So I don't know that solves her problems or

1607
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 2: she feels better before it. But she sued the assistant

1608
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: principle because the assistant principle was thought that the six

1609
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 2: year old one had troubles. It was known he had troubles,

1610
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: and it was suggested that they'd seen the sex year

1611
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: old with a gun, but the principle at the time said,

1612
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: we can't do anything about it. She failed to act. Basically,

1613
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: there's a woman called Ebony Parker. She since resigned and

1614
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: so she got sued and ten million dollars later. That

1615
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: seemingly is that twenty three minutes away from.

1616
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 10: None international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

1617
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 10: mind for New Zealand business.

1618
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 2: In Australia's Monday Monesty Trust Greetings to you. Hello that

1619
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: where does this Liberal coalition melt down? In real time?

1620
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: How long does Susan Lee stay around for? Where? Where

1621
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: does and how does this end?

1622
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1623
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 5: Great question. They've got three meetings scheduled for this week,

1624
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 5: while they need three, No one really knows. The situation

1625
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 5: is you've got a group of Liberal MPs who were

1626
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 5: known as the Moderates, and then you have the conservative

1627
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 5: arm of the Liberals and several people on the back

1628
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 5: bench and some National MPs are pushing hard for the

1629
01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 5: coalition to dump the net zero ambition. Susan Lee lined

1630
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: up with the Moderates, so that's her problem. So what

1631
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 5: they're going to try and do is come up with

1632
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 5: a middle position, which will seem like they're just fluffing

1633
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 5: around in the dark. To be honest, all they need

1634
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 5: to do is say that we're not going to get

1635
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 5: to net zero as a nation by twenty fifty. It's

1636
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 5: an ambition. It shouldn't be a rock solid promise. We

1637
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 5: should drop it, try and go as hard as we can.

1638
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 5: But that should be as far as we go. Now,

1639
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 5: that to me seems sensible. I mean, the the government's

1640
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 5: not going to get to net zero anyway. So I

1641
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 5: don't know really why they want to tear themselves apart

1642
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 5: over this. All I do know these Moderates hold suburban

1643
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 5: seats in Sydney Melbourne and they are the minority now,

1644
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 5: I mean they've lost they're inner circle of suburban seats

1645
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 5: the Liberals to the Teal Party mainly. And so what

1646
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 5: we've now got is a situation where if you don't

1647
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 5: dump net zero, the Conservatives are going to jump ship.

1648
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 5: If you do dump it, the Moderates are, So they

1649
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 5: come up with this idea that they'll go down in

1650
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 5: the middle, that they'll say, look, we should be talking

1651
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 5: about gas and nuclear and coal still being in the mix,

1652
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 5: but we won't hold our feet to the flame about that.

1653
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 5: So these meetings this week they'll tear themselves apart. The

1654
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: answer to your question, it will weaken sis in Lee's leaderships.

1655
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 5: You'll probably stagger through to Christmas and then they'll get

1656
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 5: rid of it at the beginning next year.

1657
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 2: How much of this is about them having lost the election.

1658
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: So in other words, if they weren't in the parlor

1659
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: state they're in, this would never be happening. Or was

1660
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: there some sort of deep division over climate in there

1661
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: any way that was going to come out in some way,

1662
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: shape or form.

1663
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 5: A bit of both. But I think you're very right

1664
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 5: to point out that the election loss was so severe,

1665
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 5: particularly losing those metropolitan seats. I mentioned that they now

1666
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 5: feel that if they go hard or hard as the

1667
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 5: Conservatives would like them to go on climate policy, they're

1668
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 5: going to go backwards again. I mean, this is about

1669
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 5: saving the furniture, really, that's what the moderates are trying

1670
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 5: to argue. I think they'll land on this position in

1671
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 5: the middle a couple of backbenches. Then we'll start to

1672
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 5: make a lot of noise. Barnaby Joyce will probably go

1673
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 5: from the National Party to One Nation and it's all

1674
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 5: going to be a mess.

1675
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: I can't remember where you stand on John Laws. Did

1676
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: you hate him or love him or somewhere in between.

1677
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 5: Well, the man died yesterday, age ninety. He was the

1678
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 5: greatest talk about radio presenter Australia's ever had. I took

1679
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 5: over his show when he retired briefly in two thousand

1680
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 5: and eight, which I did for two years. We had

1681
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 5: some run ins. He threatened to punch me in the

1682
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 5: head in my office one day because I'd made some

1683
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 5: remark about the color of his hair, which I always

1684
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 5: found very odd. It was sort of this tinted green color.

1685
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 5: So in that regard we were not mates. We lunched

1686
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 5: together a few times. I did breakfast before he came

1687
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 5: on the air. And this, I'm sure it happens exactly

1688
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 5: we're hosting. When he arrives to do his show every day,

1689
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 5: same thing would happen. A young man or was a

1690
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 5: young man would wheel a red handmade leather chair with

1691
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 5: the initials JL carved into it into the studio, and

1692
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 5: on that red leather chair was a box containing a

1693
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 5: golden microphone, and the golden microphone would be extracted from

1694
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 5: the box and screwed into the into the panel where

1695
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 5: he proceeded to do his morning show nine to twelve

1696
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 5: every day. Is what happens when you arrived to go on.

1697
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: It's just wondering if you were telling a story or

1698
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 2: just saying what happened this morning. I just couldn't separate

1699
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 2: back and affection there for a Moment's see, where would

1700
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: you rate them? Laws, Jones, Hinch.

1701
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 5: Laws one, Jones two, and Inch three. Probably yeah, that

1702
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 5: not she didn't include me your thanks for that.

1703
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: Now, listen, you've got to stop this because I saw

1704
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: the oscar thing. Do you know you think that was that?

1705
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: That wasn't legit?

1706
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 5: He got squeezed. Where could he go?

1707
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: An he could have stopped it? He stopped for he

1708
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: hit the next car.

1709
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 5: Well, well, Antonelli should have been wider if you slow

1710
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 5: all that down like the F one experts had done

1711
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 5: this morning. Antonelli jammed him and he had nowhere to go.

1712
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 5: What could he do? He locked up his brakes, he

1713
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 5: tried to avoid him, and he clipped him. And now

1714
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 5: the stewards are in on the great conspiracy as well.

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Speaker 5: They give him a ten second penalty for goodness sake.

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Speaker 2: I actually I actually agree with it. I saw it,

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Speaker 2: and I actually agree with you. Although I do think

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Speaker 2: he's he's mentally affected by this, and I think there's

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: something in that. He's a bit you know, he's just

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01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, when things aren't quite going away, you sort

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Speaker 2: of make some decisions that you wouldn't make when everything

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01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: is going your way.

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Speaker 5: He's gone, I think, sadly, but he still had a

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Speaker 5: great year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well when Richardson's the other one, we should mention

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Speaker 2: Old Richard. How well did you know him?

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Speaker 5: Well, he was on Sky with me and I appeared

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Speaker 5: on panel shows with him a lot. He was the

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Speaker 5: mayor of the Sydney Olympics as well as being a

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01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 5: toe cutter for the Labor Party. But yeah, rich O

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01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 5: was a great survivor. He kept working right up until

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Speaker 5: the middle of last week and passed away of course

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Speaker 5: at the end of the week. So Graham Richardson in

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Speaker 5: his heyday was the head of the right faction of

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Speaker 5: the Labor Party in New South Wales. They used to

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01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 5: go and eat Chinese food every Friday and get drunk.

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Speaker 5: He was a great man, Richard, and he was a

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Speaker 5: pretty good environment minister. He managed to get heritage listing,

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Speaker 5: for example, World Heritage Listing for the Dantry National Park,

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 5: so he had a lot of ability.

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Speaker 2: That operation he went And when was that was that?

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: Three four five? I'm hopeless with time three four five

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: years ago that it was a guardangtun operation that went

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Speaker 2: for hours and you thought is he going to come

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Speaker 2: out of it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, basically a lung transplant. I mean had everything done.

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01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 5: It's probably more like ten years ago, to be honest,

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Speaker 5: and he has been sick for a very long time,

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01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 5: but he kept turning up on Sky at least two

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Speaker 5: or three times a week every week right through.

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Speaker 2: All Wow, I go mape see you Wednesday. Preciate it

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01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: very much. Deep price out of Australia for this morning

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01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: year Graham Richard's and not Richo as they call him.

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01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: Go look it up. It's worth it because the op

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Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't an operation, it was operations and

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01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: it was he was so ill and that's why it

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01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: surprised me, said ten years ago, because that makes him

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01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: sixty six. So the illness, and he had beat uld

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01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: cancer in the Malia. What got him in the end

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01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: was influenza in the media. But he was so ill

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: that this operation and it went for if not most

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01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: of the day, all day, like literally twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

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01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: sixteen hours of operation and they were taking out pretty

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01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: much all of them and putting up new bits, and

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01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: you thought, there is no way you can survive this.

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 2: And not only did he survive it, he bounced back

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01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: in a way that if you looked at him and

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01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: didn't know he'd gone under the knife. You would have gone,

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01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with the Blake Hey forty.

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Speaker 1: Five The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: Thirteen away from nine if you can believe it. Hamasa

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Speaker 2: and Court in Australia, it's almost like they're a business

1775
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: with lawyers. They merged the Australian government to remove its

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Speaker 2: listing as a terror organization. Federal court filing breached international law,

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Speaker 2: impeded CIS fire negotiations, exposed its negotiators to assassination, provided

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Speaker 2: legal cover for Israeli. A tacks filed as part of

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Speaker 2: a court case brought by an indigenous activist gy called

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01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: Robbie Thorpe. Designation limits freedom of political communications in Australia

1781
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: by chilling discussions of Palestinian strategies to resuce reduces Raeli occupation.

1782
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Speaker 2: He's the uncle of Independent Senator Lydia Thorpe. Western Nations

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01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: designation if for Massa's a terror group has been used

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01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: by Israel to justify its fore his conduct in Gaza.

1785
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: The other thing, see if this rings a bell for you,

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Speaker 2: They've got quote unquote in Australia a radical because of

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: course their housing's going off. They've got the same problem

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01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: we have to the extent they're not building enough houses.

1789
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: Too many people are coming into the country. Therefore supplies

1790
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: not meeting demand, or demand is not meeting supply, and

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01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: they've got quote unquote A radical plan to revamp the

1792
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 2: nation's capital cities comes from the Gratton Institute. You ready.

1793
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: It's to allow three story apartments anywhere in capital cities.

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: It will create sixty seven thousand extra homes annually. Seeks

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01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: to tackle restrictive zoning and low density areas where up

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01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: to eighty seven percent of land is zoned for three

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01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: stories or fewer. The change would slash rents by twelve

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Speaker 2: percent and cut the median house price b one hundred

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01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Three houses, three stories on a block of land.

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Speaker 2: Where have you heard that particular?

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Speaker 5: One?

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Speaker 2: Before? Eleven away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of houses Napier, how are you? How are you

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Speaker 2: feeling about your six story developments? Meant to mention this

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: last week, but this is the district plans six stories,

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01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: terraced houses, apartments, six stories. Submissions four hundred, five hundred suggestions,

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: two hundred against two fifty amendments and forty five in support.

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 2: So change is coming to your place as well. Here

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01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: is Lee post race or.

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 24: Was it appropriate to make such a move given the

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01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 24: hard down points and particularly yourself with a single stop strategy.

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01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 24: You know you're not expected to come on to attack

1834
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 24: from my teammate right at the end.

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Speaker 2: Baby, it's still out slap of a race.

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Speaker 22: Honestly, I think there's no way that the team can

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 22: expect or anybody can expect. As much as it's the

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 22: ideal thing to do, there's no way that we're not

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01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 22: going to race for a position like that, So I

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01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 22: respect that. Obviously it's we're lucky that we came out

1841
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 22: of it. But it's been a great weekend for the team.

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Speaker 1: Yes, its trending now with Swarehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

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01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 2: Yes, it has been a very good weekend for the team.

1844
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: And what's interesting and it infuriates me. And if you

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: follow the f one you'll know what I'm talking about.

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: They're international pictures, so when you're looking at sky as

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01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: in Sky UK, it's not them. They just talk to

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01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: the pictures. The pictures are run by the fai if IA. Now,

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: the problem with the coverage of Liam is there is none,

1850
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: and they've got to do something about it, because when

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01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: you get down to as he got down to Q three,

1852
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: qualifying three, last ten in the field, you've only got

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01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: ten cars on the whole track to cover. And if

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01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: you go back to qualifying three Q three over the weekend,

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01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: you name me a single shot, a single moment where

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01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: Liam's car and Liam was talked about at all in

1857
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: Q three And the answer is it wasn't And there

1858
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 2: was a thing. I follow a guy called Kim Illman

1859
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 2: who as an F one photographer and he got some stats,

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01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 2: so I think it was from Baku. And Liam is

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01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: the least mentioned F one driver of anyone by so far.

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01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter so top with someone like the step

1863
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 2: in at one hundred and fifty mentions over a weekend,

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01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: Liam got four. So you can't tell me that's fair

1865
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: and balanced coverage in Q three If you're not mentioning

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Speaker 2: all ten cars, there's something wrong with your carverage. Five

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Speaker 2: Away from.

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Speaker 1: Night Trending now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all

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Speaker 1: year round.

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Speaker 2: Put the needle on the record.

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Speaker 20: Glenn Leater, Donaldita again some sounder.

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Speaker 2: Festival of Remembrance Royal Albert hall overnights honors the service

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01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: of those who have served and died. Of course, the

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Speaker 2: King was there, Committal was there, Kate was there, George

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01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: was there, was William not there? Wasn't he He must

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Speaker 2: have been coming back from Brazil, because he was certainly

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 2: there this morning at the remembrance service. And a lot

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Speaker 2: of emotion. I don't know whether it's the King's age jaw,

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01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: but a lot of emotions at that and it was

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Speaker 2: and lining up there was a beautiful shot of the

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Speaker 2: former prime ministers all lined up together and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of them. This by the way, you'll be going,

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01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: who on earth is this?

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Speaker 15: And it is.

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01:27:51,600 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: Hannah Waddington. There's a similar actual sing fro the pop

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Speaker 2: post for the day. When's the Latency's filming currently? They're

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Speaker 2: filming currently lesson and Less sou less so in London. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow morning from six a m. Another edition

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Speaker 2: of the Mic hosting books. As always Kathy Davis.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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