1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Massive News and Conservation The scening at nineteen after five, 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: a little spotted kiwi or kiwi puka puku has been 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: located on the New Zealand mainland for the first time 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: in fifty years. Dock hunter Ian Graham and his little 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: dog Brew discovered the kiwi in the West Coast bush 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: and he is with me now, high Ian Koda, Hey 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: tell us how you found this kiwi. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Ah, Well, we got a report from a hunter back 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: in March and he'd taken a photo of kiwi that 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: he'd stumbled across while he was doing his job. He 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: passed it on to us and it's in an area 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: that we don't really expect kiwi to be and so 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 2: we thought it was worth worth a follow up. 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: This is on the West Coast Adam's Wilderness area. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: Yes, Adam's in this area, right in the middle of 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: sort of Southwestland. Yeah, we gave it, gave it a 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: follow up and we managed to manage to get in 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: there with a with a group of hunters and myself 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: and my conservation dog Brew spent a week in there. 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: We managed to find a female kiwi in that time 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: and we basically we spent the last last little while 22 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: trying to determine if she is Kiwi Pooka puckoo or not, 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: and it turns out she is. That's pretty exciting for 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: us in the conservation world to see Kiwi Puka poockoo 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: on the mainland sort of outside of a sort of 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: fence sanctuary or predator free offshore island for the first 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: time in fifty years. 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Did they look different? Do they sound different? 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: They do? They? When I was there, I spent the 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: first night basically calling for Kiwi, sort of soliciting calls. 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: They're quite territorial, so they want to call back and 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: let you know that you're in mere territory. And so 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: the first time I heard this bird, I knew it 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't a sort of one of the locals, 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: one of the ry or great spots that are nearby. 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: And I heard two of them they were jeweting, and 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: from that moment I was like, Okay, these are these 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: guys are different, and it was. It was pretty pretty 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: exciting to contain the excitement for a while. 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: Did you say, do you do a call? Can you 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: give us a give us a call? Is it? Do 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: you do it like vocally? 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: No? No, we we have we have recorded calls. We 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: play over sort of a loud speaker if if anyone's 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: heard ki we. The male are sort of a shrill, 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: high pitch whistle and the female. The females are sort 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: of a throaty, sort of cough sound. 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the hard the hardest sleep next to I've been. 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: There they are, Yeah, definitely. 50 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: So this is all very exciting. 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: Why is it that the the puka pukuo or the 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: little spotted kiwi, why are they so much more endangered 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: on the mainland? 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: So their kiwi puka puckoo are the smallest of the 55 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 2: species of kiwi. They they're full ground weight is sort 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: of between twelve hundred to sort of eighteen hundred grams, 57 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: and basically we call stokeproof for a kiwi anything over 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: one to one point two kilo. So it takes takes 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: these guys a whole lot longer than our other Kiwi species. 60 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: It takes them up to two years to get to 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: that stoakeproof weight, and so they're vulnerable for a much 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: much longer period of time. 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: You're getting around a bit. You're in Canada right now 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: fighting wildfires. How's that going? 65 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: I am good. We've just arrived at Cross Lake. We've 66 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 2: sort of spent the last three days traveling to get here, 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: sort of all it's got sort of itchy feats, trying 68 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: to get out onto the fire line tomorrow. But yeah, 69 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: we're here assisting the basically assisting the locals in Manitoba 70 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: and assisting and sort of providing of welcome release to 71 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: their busy season. 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: In fascinating chat. 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