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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from a different cloth,

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Speaker 3: And welcome today by by cost of the Police Commissioner

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Speaker 3: on his time the supermarket facial recognition trial that seems

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Speaker 3: to have been a success. We're not drinking milk the

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Speaker 3: way we used to apparently, market Ginny Politics Wednesday at

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Speaker 3: the right. Of course, Murray Olds and Richard Arnold have

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Speaker 3: the Big Bad World cabin as well. Last so we

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Speaker 3: come to the middle of the week seven past six perol.

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Speaker 3: Chris Hipkins, of course, suffering the fate of many a

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Speaker 3: leader who's lost an election. At the moment, he's stuck

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Speaker 3: in that no man's land where a lot of what

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Speaker 3: you say is irrelevant, people don't want to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: And now the polls are turning. Of course, the government

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Speaker 3: you were handed was a mess and a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff needs to be changed. And the stuff that needs

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Speaker 3: to be changed was of course delivered to them by

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Speaker 3: Chris Hopkins, who can't hide from the calamity that it's

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Speaker 3: turned out to be. Mind you Peter Dutton in Australia

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Speaker 3: not so long ago, he was seen by many as

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Speaker 3: unelectable and net checked the polls. He's not only in

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Speaker 3: today won't be for obvious reasons. He could well win anyway.

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Speaker 3: Old chippies in London at the moment we're in Britain

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Speaker 3: at least looking for tips from the British Labour Party.

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Speaker 3: Now here's the problem with the British Labour Party. They

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Speaker 3: Labour weren't clever or original or strategic. They just basically

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Speaker 3: the chipster, it might be in their tax policies. They

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Speaker 3: them are now looking to leave the country. There are

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Speaker 3: The places they're looking to head to are Monaco, Italy,

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Speaker 3: more tax are dead on arrival. Capital gains and wealth

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Speaker 3: taxes are the lazy man's approach to economic policy. Good

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Speaker 3: leaders work that out. He shouldn't need a trip to

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: So the world's slowly starting togather in New York for

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Speaker 3: the UN's annual gab fest. This bloke's giving it crack

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Speaker 3: one last time.

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Speaker 4: and hastage due it's beenindors by the UN Security Council.

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Speaker 4: Now is the time for the parties of Finalizer's terms

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Speaker 4: bring the hostages home.

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Speaker 3: If you're on the ground and by route Pize doesn't

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Speaker 3: seen that close at all.

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Speaker 6: Clearly a great deal of damage is being caused.

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Speaker 5: Wrecked apart.

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Speaker 3: The Israelis are running out again of the line about

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Speaker 8: has been very very clear that our objective is to

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Speaker 3: So key has laidered on thick at that conference and

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Speaker 7: Every single person in this country can judge our performance

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Speaker 7: on actions, not words, a Britain that belongs to you,

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Speaker 7: because we maintain our focus at all times on fixing

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Speaker 3: Whatever Chinese Central Bank surprise most market watches by tossing

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Speaker 3: some stimulus into the Belliegate economy, this is substantial.

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Speaker 7: This is the greatest stimulus that they've given to the

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Speaker 3: I'll give you the numbers in a moment. Finally, from

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Speaker 3: our gift horse in the mouth file Boeing workers who

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Speaker 3: Poll's may be tight, but Harris has got yet another

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Speaker 3: open letter this morning. She is just being besieged by

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Speaker 3: open letters. Tonight's or overnight letter was four hundred economists

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Speaker 3: military heads, entertainment heads, and now a letter from four

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Speaker 3: hundred economists endorsing her brilliance fifteen parts six You're brilliance

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Speaker 6: A good morning, very good morning, micro.

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Speaker 3: Now four point three five. I don't think the non

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Speaker 6: Well, the markets have a view.

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Speaker 10: get really interesting, Michael, this if you're a bit weird

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Speaker 10: So the RBA reviewed the cash right essay, left it

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Speaker 10: unchanged at four point three five percent, but they talked

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Speaker 10: They stressed the need to remain vigilant to the upside

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Speaker 10: We are I'll explain that eight nine point two numbers.

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Speaker 10: The survey tells us this that aspect that job availability

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Speaker 3: After seven o'clive pack in Israel. I know that Iran

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Speaker 3: latest social ill. We have to crack down on the

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Speaker 3: We have what the Justice Minister calls a worrying increase

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Speaker 3: Of course, so the offense will become an aggravating factor

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Speaker 3: in court. Other safety measures will also receive funding. Apparently

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you. Good morning, Mike, I'm very well. Indeed,

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Speaker 3: how would outside of what I've just described by way

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Speaker 15: Look, we're certainly seeing problems, Mike, and it's not just violence,

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Speaker 15: you know, We've got threats, aggression and in particular racial

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Speaker 3: Quite correct? And is this getting worse than the sense

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Speaker 15: Look it is getting worse, and look, we know many

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Speaker 15: a public transport problem. It's a complex societal issue. But

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Speaker 3: In making it an aggravating factor in court, it would

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Speaker 15: It does tend to vary. All of the buses are

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Speaker 15: it is unfortunate things have come to this because most

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Speaker 15: really what we'd like to see in addition is increased

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Speaker 15: You absolutely, you know, without a doubt, increased personnel is

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Speaker 15: But we think it's critical to keep that workplace safe

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Speaker 3: Well said Delney. Appreciate your time. To Loney Myers, who's

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Speaker 2: Solution, International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 2: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think pretty fine with General States with the

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Speaker 3: Donald morning one more time for Joe in New York

444
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Speaker 3: last time.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and not the foreign policy farewells and President Biden

446
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Speaker 16: would have preferred me, thinks the US President, delivering his

447
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Speaker 16: fourth and final speech to the United Nations General Assembly

448
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Speaker 16: at a point when he hoped there might be what

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Speaker 16: we were just talking about, kind of cease father between

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Speaker 16: Israel and Gaza. Instead, the war has moved on to

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Speaker 16: levenon with waves of missile strikes. As we've been hearing

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Speaker 16: about Israel and haswell are firing these missiles, thousands of

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Speaker 16: people fleeing from the border zone mid fears this is

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Speaker 16: all shaping as a full scale regional war. So the

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Speaker 16: Biden theme was, to paraphrase, give peace a chance. Biden,

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Speaker 16: noting that some other seemingly intractable conflicts ended like Vietnam

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Speaker 16: back in the day, he went through the history of

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Speaker 16: his period in political leadership, and he voiced optimism for

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Speaker 16: the future, saying, it.

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Speaker 4: Always seems impossible until it's done, my fellow leaders, there's

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Speaker 4: nothing that's beyond our capacity if we work together well.

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Speaker 13: President Biden is calling for.

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Speaker 16: A ceasefire in the Middle East, focusing his comments on however,

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Speaker 16: many Israelian American hostages remain alive in the bloody aftermath

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Speaker 16: of the Himas raid eleven months back. He said this

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Speaker 16: in relation to that situation.

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Speaker 4: Third going through Oh, innocent civilians and Gaza are also

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Speaker 4: going through hell. Now is the time for the parties

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Speaker 4: to finalize his terms bring the hostages.

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Speaker 16: Home in this war, he told his fellow lawmakers. Still,

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Speaker 16: the facts of this day certainly don't show events moving

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Speaker 16: in that way, do they. President Biden also saying this

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Speaker 16: in relation to Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: The good news is Prune's wars failed. You set out

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Speaker 4: to destroy Ukraine, but Ukraine is still free. You set

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Speaker 4: out the week in NATO, but NATO is bigger, stronger,

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Speaker 4: more unine than ever before.

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Speaker 13: You know Ukraine's leader only A.

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Speaker 16: Zelensky will meet with Biden later this week, again at

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Speaker 16: a time when Selenski is urging the US, Britain and

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Speaker 16: France to let Ukraine make deeper military strikes into Russia.

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Speaker 16: So this is a very contentious question. Would that be

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Speaker 16: effective or would it push the Russian nuclear power into

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Speaker 16: order a confrontation with the West?

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Speaker 13: Says Zelensky in relation to his thinking.

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Speaker 17: Only in distrong position, we can push, we can push

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Speaker 17: Puchin to stop the work.

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Speaker 16: So, in this farewell address to the UN, President Biden

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Speaker 16: making the point that he often makes that this is

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Speaker 16: a key moment of transition, but transition to what.

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Speaker 3: Right Brett fav So he invested in a company, he's

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Speaker 3: tied up in Congress and then we get the big revelation.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think the revelation is the headline here. Because

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Speaker 16: father has been one of the greats. Played for twenty seasons,

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Speaker 16: mostly with the Green Bay Packers. As you know, he

496
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Speaker 16: won a Super Bowl against the Patriots in ninety seven

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Speaker 16: Super Bowl thirty one.

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Speaker 13: He was a three time MVP.

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Speaker 16: Latterly, Yeah, he was broiled in controversy with the misusers

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Speaker 16: and funds in his home state in Mississippi. Says he

501
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Speaker 16: was trying to support a health effort, but money where

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Speaker 16: to Ryan Ways. He claims he had nothing to do

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Speaker 16: with that. Aside, there was this bombshell today during the

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Speaker 16: hearing on welfare reform where fav revealed this.

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Speaker 6: Too late for me because I've recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that is the first time Brett Favre has revealed this.

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Speaker 13: He is aged fifty four, so he's a youngish man.

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Speaker 16: Parkinson's course causes tremors, balance and speech problems. Also can

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Speaker 16: combine with the CTE, which a lot of footballers develop

510
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Speaker 16: after the concussions. It is a degenerative brain disease which

511
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Speaker 16: can combine with the Parkinson says doctor Timothy Quinn.

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Speaker 18: This Fucker's disease diagnosis combined with the potential CTE, which

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Speaker 18: is the punic traumatic accephalopathy, can be devastating. He even

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Speaker 18: noted that he can't remember his daughter playing youth soccer,

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Speaker 18: which is very important to him, which he's expressed over

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Speaker 18: the years.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, dementia, a lack of anger control, and depression, suicidal

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Speaker 16: feelingses as some of the elements of this thing.

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Speaker 13: In the past.

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Speaker 16: Five has said he suffered several obvious concussions during his

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Speaker 16: football time, but he said if you want to talk

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Speaker 16: about other hits to his head, there might be a

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Speaker 16: thousand plus. Since this has become an issue a few

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Speaker 16: years back, only researchers say about one third of former

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Speaker 16: NFL players surveyed believe.

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Speaker 13: They have CT. So this is putting a spotlight right

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Speaker 13: back on the game.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing I see in a couple of days. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold stateside, Trump is out in Georgia today. Made

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Speaker 3: us th yesterday. I'll come to that in a second.

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Speaker 3: But fortunately in Georgia today he had a chart with him.

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Speaker 16: You know my all time favorite chart in history, right,

533
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Speaker 16: I have a chart that's my all time favorite.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Is it around?

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Speaker 11: Is it around?

537
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Speaker 5: I love that chart.

538
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: I sleep with that chart every night.

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Speaker 19: I kiss it.

540
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Speaker 13: I love it.

541
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Speaker 1: Is that chart saved my life. I looked at the right.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't look to the right, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: here with you today. I guarantee you that.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday he said, John d you're thinking of moving some

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Speaker 3: of the production to Mexico. He said of John Dea

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Speaker 3: moved to Mexico, and I put a two hundred percent tariffon,

547
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: just like that instant policy. But the funny thing was,

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Speaker 3: yesterday I was reading some analysis and here's what makes

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Speaker 3: this race so interesting. CNN no Less said, when he's

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Speaker 3: cogent and he argues on the economy, which that wasn't

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Speaker 3: an example of. But when he's cogent and he argues

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Speaker 3: on the economy, he's winning. And when CNN can see

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Speaker 3: that a lot more people.

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Speaker 20: Today he said he was going to ban sale steel

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Speaker 20: sales to Japan, whereas yesterday he was saying he was

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Speaker 20: going to revitalize US, the US steel industry.

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Speaker 5: Which is it?

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Speaker 3: When I quote CNN, the words were, when he's cogent,

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Speaker 3: he cuts through nine away from seven.

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Speaker 2: The misty breakfast with the Jaguar, FP News talks ND.

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Speaker 3: We need to know if Winston consulted the act Party

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Speaker 3: about the sausages. It's very good that was a small

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Speaker 3: space yesterday. The fairies. This seems to be a little

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Speaker 3: bit of angst in the coalition, the UN resolution, the

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Speaker 3: sens be the same thing. By the way, Brett Faber

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Speaker 3: a moment ago in front of one congressional committee Senate

567
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Speaker 3: was grilling the people who make Noba Nordisk, people who

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Speaker 3: make Wigobe in a zempic. Beronnie Sanders runs that particular committee.

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Speaker 3: The reason I mentioned this is that you can't get

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Speaker 3: that stuff here, which you should be able to, of course,

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Speaker 3: but he was arguing, and I'm assuming it highlights just

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Speaker 3: how dysfunctional the American health system is. That Novo Nordisk

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00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: pulled fifty billion dollars of sales of these drugs globally

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Speaker 3: last year. Most of it came from the States. He's

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Speaker 3: arguing it costs a grand a month, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: if you're on we Gooby, it costs thirteen hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: a month in the US, and yet for under one

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars you can get it in most of Europe

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Speaker 3: a zemp it costs fifty nine dollars a month in Germany,

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Speaker 3: ninety two dollars in the UK. I'm assuming it's got

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Speaker 3: something to do with government and how the government doesn't

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Speaker 3: support those sort of things in America. Hence you say

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Speaker 3: the wall prince five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 2: It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is fun. We've got an insight into our mood.

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Speaker 3: Seek I have come to the party, and what a

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Speaker 3: party it is. As it turns out, this is their

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Speaker 3: first workplace Happiness index. And this goes against everything you hear.

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Speaker 11: In the media.

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Speaker 3: Sixty two percent of us are perfectly happy at work.

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Speaker 3: Sixty two percent of us the vast majority gen Z

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Speaker 3: though you know gen Z. That's right, they're the most

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Speaker 3: unhappy gen Z. There's only fifty two percent are happy.

596
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Speaker 3: Millennials fifty four, Gen X sixty nine, Boomers seventy six.

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Speaker 3: You won't find a miserable boomer. They ain't no such

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Speaker 3: thing as a miserable boomer. Bruss, you're happy. Among all

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Speaker 3: the workers in the survey, the biggest impacts on happiness

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Speaker 3: are the purpose at work, day to day responsibilities, company culture, salary,

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Speaker 3: and stress levels. We don't factor in company success. Interestingly,

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Speaker 3: a commitment to ESG our colleagues are location or flexible

603
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: working arrangements. What's ESG No the environment, how good. Your

604
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: company is for the environment. I'm a gen xy. You

605
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: know why I'm happy. I can't never rats ass about

606
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Speaker 3: the environment and what the company's doing about it, because

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: I'm getting on with life. Where are they unhappy? Gen Z?

608
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: What do we got? They say, salary? I want more money.

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00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing that defines their happiness. Forty two

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Speaker 3: percent or unhappy withreer career progression. It's because they arrive

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Speaker 3: on a Monday. I want to be the boss by Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Seventy two percent of us are happy. So we are

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Speaker 3: motivated to go above and beyond. That's what I say

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Speaker 3: every day to Jason, isn't it kay? And I say

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Speaker 3: I want to go above and beyond.

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Speaker 5: Jason comes and he goes, man, you win a bit

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Speaker 5: beyond today.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, That's what he always says. He goes a bit

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Speaker 3: loose today, isn't he? It's in fact, actually I'm going

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Speaker 3: to he goes for rupy today.

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Speaker 20: Imagine if they tickle the lawyers out of those stats,

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Speaker 20: and how could that be?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? Eighty four percent of those unhappy say they think

624
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Speaker 3: about changing jobs often. It's a funny story. I'll get

625
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: to it later on Go I quit Breakfast Television in

626
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Speaker 3: Australia yesterday and his comments are interesting and I think

627
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Speaker 3: it's what you bring to work that's the key to

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Speaker 3: your success or otherwise speaking of work, Andrew Costa next.

629
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Speaker 2: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names. Talk to

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Speaker 2: Mike Costing Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News.

631
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Speaker 3: To seven past seven are quite possibly our most high

632
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Speaker 3: profile police commissioners. Leaving his job early, having already indicated

633
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Speaker 3: he wasn't seeking a second term, he will head to

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Speaker 3: the Public Service Commissioner Secretary of Social Investment, Andrew Costa

635
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Speaker 3: is with us.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: What are your observations of the politics of being a

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Speaker 3: police commissioner as you exit this particular role.

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Speaker 21: I think it's been a really interesting time. I don't

640
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Speaker 21: know that this is unique to New Zealand, but it

641
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Speaker 21: seems that place has been a lot more in the

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Speaker 21: of the politics, not by intention, but uh really law

643
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Speaker 21: and order focused election and we got very drawn there.

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Speaker 3: What are your observations on the ability? What has interested

645
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Speaker 3: me about you most of all is your seeming, I guess,

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Speaker 3: and I go back to the words of the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister yesterday which were very flattering your ability to serve

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Speaker 3: the government of the day. In other words, you might

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Speaker 3: or might not have been doing what you wanted to do,

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Speaker 3: but you were under instruction. Is that fair or not?

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Speaker 21: Well, it is our job to serve the government of

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Speaker 21: the day. We're operationally independence, but that doesn't mean entirely independent,

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Speaker 21: and we respond to the government's priorities. And that's exactly

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Speaker 21: what we've done with this new government. And you know,

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Speaker 21: in the end that's the job of every public servant.

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Speaker 3: But have you've seen the contrast, say, from the public's

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Speaker 3: point of view on what for one government you seem

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Speaker 3: soft on another government you seemed harder. Is that fair?

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Speaker 21: Well, I definitely accept that that perception is there, and

660
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Speaker 21: we have pivoted to respond to a new government's priorities.

661
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Speaker 21: If you look at the everyday work of police officers

662
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Speaker 21: we're talking about, you know, the tenth percent of the margins,

663
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 21: the ninety percent remains pretty consistent year and year out.

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Speaker 3: The COVID period. If it had never happened, how different

665
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Speaker 3: do you reckon it would be?

666
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Speaker 11: Oh? Hugely.

667
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 21: COVID has fundamentally changed what police are dealing with every day.

668
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 21: People are more polarized and more angry kids have been

669
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Speaker 21: disrupted in their schooling. That plays through and to their offending.

670
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Speaker 21: I know COVID can and has been used as an excuse,

671
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Speaker 21: but it has a really long tail and we're still

672
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Speaker 21: dealing with it.

673
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Speaker 3: How long do you reckon that tail is.

674
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Speaker 21: Well, we've still got the economic impacts of it, so

675
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 21: that plays through and pressure on families and family violence

676
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Speaker 21: and even retail crime for example. I would hope that

677
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Speaker 21: would turn a corner, but I think it's with the

678
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Speaker 21: economy turns corner that you start to see that really

679
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 21: plays through in terms of some different results and intents

680
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 21: of crime.

681
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Speaker 3: And given all of that, what's your advice to people

682
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Speaker 3: who think that policing as a career is a good idea?

683
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Speaker 21: I think it's a career is a great idea. It

684
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Speaker 21: has been a truly outstanding career for me. I've done

685
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Speaker 21: so many different things through the course of it. It's

686
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Speaker 21: a great set of people doing outstanding work in the community.

687
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Speaker 21: I couldn't recommend it more. Whether you want to be

688
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Speaker 21: the commissioner, well the question, but it's a great job.

689
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Speaker 3: What a social investment and how will it manifest itself

690
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Speaker 3: under your watch?

691
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Speaker 21: I see social investment as at the other end of

692
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Speaker 21: the spectrum from where places we spend a lot of

693
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Speaker 21: time at the bottom of the cliffs of social failure.

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Speaker 21: Social investments trying to change the settings at the top

695
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Speaker 21: end to get better outcomes in the community. It really

696
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Speaker 21: means looking across all of the social spend there's about

697
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Speaker 21: seventy billion dollars and understanding how that can be applied

698
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Speaker 21: better to get better results.

699
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Speaker 3: All right, appreciate your time. I'm sure we'll talk again.

700
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: Andrew Costa police sell outgoing police commissioner run ten minutes

701
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Speaker 3: past seven last making Ginny both worked with them. Of course,

702
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: we'll get their views after eight o'clock this morning. And

703
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: from reading yesterday, there's a couple of hot favorites for

704
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: the next commissioner. But we'll work you through that process,

705
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: as I say later on in the program. Now, internationally,

706
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: once again the spectrum of the so called all out

707
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: war in the Middle East, tensions heightened. The Israeli strike

708
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Speaker 3: to continue overnight in his BLA, of course, or against

709
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Speaker 3: his BLA. And Lebanon journalist and analyst Gideon Levy back

710
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Speaker 3: with us. Morning.

711
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Speaker 11: Good morning to you.

712
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Speaker 3: What's your sense of whether this is a specific escalation

713
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: that will peter out in time, or something bigger.

714
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 22: I'm afraid it's something bigger, because I don't see anything

715
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 22: stopping it. There's no incentive, there is no mediator, there

716
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 22: is no leadership, and I don't see how will it stop.

717
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 22: Israel insist on its own conditions. Isabella seems to be

718
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 22: ready to sacrifice, and we are stuck in another bloodbath.

719
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Speaker 3: So as regards resource and intent from the Israeli side,

720
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Speaker 3: are they being worn down by fighting on all these

721
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: different fronts now or not?

722
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 11: Until now?

723
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Speaker 22: It's working? The big big question is now, if it's

724
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Speaker 22: the Northern front, will get into a.

725
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Speaker 11: Ground of.

726
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Speaker 22: This might be too big and too complicated to have

727
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 22: two ground operations in two fronts, with a quite exhausted army,

728
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 22: with the people who is quite lost and demoralized, with

729
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 22: the international status of Fasuel, which is rather closer to

730
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 22: a pariah state than anything else. This might be very

731
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 22: very hard. As long as it's only those air strikes,

732
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 22: a Israel can handle it easily.

733
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you writes two very good points. One the international support.

734
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Speaker 3: What's your assessment of where that's at and how long

735
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: it goes for and how enthusiastic. It remains.

736
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 22: Let's be very clear when we talk about international support,

737
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 22: it's first of all the United States above all, because

738
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 22: it's not only because the United States is the biggest

739
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 22: supplier of as well, but the United States has also

740
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 22: its influence on Europe, on your country, and Australia on

741
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 22: many other countries.

742
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Speaker 11: So it's all about the United States.

743
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Speaker 22: And the United States until now play the very strange

744
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 22: game on one hand asking Israel, calling Israel to put

745
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 22: an end to the war, including the speech of President

746
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 22: Biden just yesterday in the Assembly, and in the same time,

747
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 22: the United States is applying Israel in an unconditioned way,

748
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 22: an almost unlimited way with weapons and demolition. As long

749
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 22: as this continues, Israel has a card blanche to continue

750
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 22: the war, no matter if there are demonstrations against Israel

751
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 22: or they are not. The question is if the American

752
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 22: administration will turn from talkings to actions, and this does

753
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 22: not seem soon, especially in a campaign and an election campaign.

754
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: Right, We'll stay in touch. Getting a press out at

755
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: Gideon and Levey out of from Israel this morning, fourteen

756
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: minutes past seven past comes off and my thoughts on

757
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: cost a difficult role in difficult times. You can't knock

758
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: his commitment to the profession great into view questions. Thank

759
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: you very much, Mike. The damaged Coster are allowed to

760
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: happen with the acceptance of the entitlement some sectors of

761
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: society believe they had. We'll take generations to unpick Mike.

762
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: Andrew cost is just another victim left bobbing in the

763
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: wake of battleship destroyer hms A deern. Yeah, more to

764
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: say on that after what I did find interesting yesterday.

765
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: He was a fusive lux and was effusive and once

766
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: again got arced up with the media, which I think

767
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: in to defend the media just briefly they did. I mean,

768
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who criticized, including myself criticized Cost.

769
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: But what I've never really understood, and I maybe it's

770
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: just I'm not that sort of person, is how you

771
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: can be one person to somebody and somebody completely different

772
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: to somebody else. Because in a job of being the

773
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: police commissioner and having that many years experience, you must

774
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: know what works and what doesn't. And when somebody comes

775
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: to you and goes, hey, I want to try this,

776
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: in your heart that it's not going to work, and

777
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: you still hang out in the job and deliberate each day,

778
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: and that's it's the weirdest thing. You go home at

779
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: the end of the day and you go, how is

780
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: your day? Well, there's another crap day because I'm being

781
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: instructed to do the wrong thing by idiots that don't

782
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. And then you go back next.

783
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: Day for more.

784
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: How do you explain that?

785
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: Fifteen past seven, The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

786
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio powered by News.

787
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: Talks at b Supermarket's facial recognition trial seems to have

788
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: been a successful crunch down on that. After seven thirty

789
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: men Time eighteen past seven. Bit of tech speaking of

790
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: tech to make life easier, this time on the farm

791
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: got a new drone with a bit of AI technology

792
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: makes counting stock easier. Apparently they call it skycount project.

793
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: Stephen Gerrin is PGG Rights and CEO, and he's with

794
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: a Stephen Morning not at all. So you're involved or

795
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: your companies involved in this? So is this an expansion

796
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 3: into tech for your company? So it's more than gum

797
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: boots and feed or what we've.

798
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 19: Always been a bit more than gum boots and feeders.

799
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 19: As time has developed Mike, but this is a new

800
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 19: innovation for us because we previously our innovation was around

801
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 19: online training for our livestock and our application. But this

802
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 19: is a new piece of kit for us, and we've

803
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 19: developed an apartment within the and Microsoft. So we're really

804
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 19: pleased to launch it to the market. At the field

805
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 19: days and.

806
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: How much drone and how much AI.

807
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 19: The drone does the initial count, so we're using high

808
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 19: definition cameras there. We've tried a number of technologies but

809
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 19: infra red doesn't seem to do the work. You can't

810
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 19: really distinguish between sometimes between a tractor sitting in a

811
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 19: field and a water trough, et cetera, versus the sheep,

812
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 19: and that's quite important for the farm and they don't

813
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 19: want to count the sheep, not the tractors. So we've

814
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 19: we take the fly the drone across the paddock. You've

815
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 19: got to be very conscious about a lot disturbing the

816
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 19: animals and that's really what this is about, making not

817
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 19: interrupting the workflow what's going on on farm. And then

818
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 19: the drone comes back to base and then we run

819
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 19: it through a scanner AI kit. It as counted as

820
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 19: it goes, but we do have to verify some things

821
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 19: because the AI is still learning technology.

822
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: There was my next question, where do you recognize that

823
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: right here, right now versus where it might be next

824
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: year or the year after.

825
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 19: In terms of this, we're getting up to ninety seven

826
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Speaker 19: percent accuracy in the first passes.

827
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 6: We getting up.

828
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 19: We're climbing up to ninety nine in some areas. But

829
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 19: sheep seem to be a bit harder because they tend

830
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 19: to hide and scrub and so forth. So but dairy

831
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 19: cattle we can get really close to one hundred percent accuracy,

832
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 19: you know, ninety nine percent plus right now. So that's

833
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 19: that you question about a year's time. Will advance even

834
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 19: further beyond that as we do more more runs across

835
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 19: farms plicular in the hill country areas.

836
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: Fantastic. We'll stay in touch on it. Well done, Stephen Garan,

837
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Speaker 3: who is worth PGG writings, need to have a word

838
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Speaker 3: about Tory in a moment.

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Speaker 3: to so well. What I think is the fourth time

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Speaker 3: in a week we've heard from Tory Farnow, which is

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Speaker 3: a problem in itself because in the third interview or

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Speaker 3: possibly the fourth, she was given as she reveals that

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Speaker 3: originally she thought MIAs flew below the radar, so in

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Speaker 3: her ongoing quest not to fly below the radar. She

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Speaker 3: has been getting about all the trouble she's found herself

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Speaker 3: in has come from her friends, many of whom worked

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Speaker 3: for Are you ready for it? Just Cinda a dern

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Speaker 3: say no more now. The original interview was with z B.

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Speaker 3: That was her I sold my car interview. Her next

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Speaker 3: interview was with Stuff that was the Stuff interview, Stuff

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Speaker 3: claiming it was an exclusive despite the fact it wasn't

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Speaker 3: and we knew it wasn't because they asked about her

876
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Speaker 3: car and they couldn't have known about the car without

877
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: the ZB interview, which was, as far as I can tell,

878
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: not an exclusive either, because she does a fairly regulus

879
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: loot on z B and Wellington. The third interview was

880
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: on the Telly, where she confessed the sold car story

881
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: was in fact made up but taken out of context,

882
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: despite the fact she had raised it or by herself

883
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: having done the Telly. She seems to have wandered off

884
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: and done a podcast, which is where she raised the

885
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: fact she had done the tally but the telly hadn't

886
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: gone so well. The podcast and the telly, by the way,

887
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: were at no times claimed to be exclusives, but she

888
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: did raise the bit where she seems to get her

889
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: advice from Jessinda's mates. Of course, much earlier than this,

890
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: she should have stopped digging and basically tried to get

891
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: back down below the radar, because I'm not sure if

892
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: Jinda's friends have told her this, but she's making a

893
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: spectacular dick of herself and dragging the city's reputation down

894
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: with her. Now it's a very very good lesson and

895
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: why some people simply are not suited for one public

896
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: life and two leadership. Now, without being too unkind, it

897
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: would appear she struggles to run her own life far

898
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 3: less the whole city's. And she's also has that suspect

899
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: skill in choosing friends. Clearly, So four interviews down, we

900
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: now know more about Tory than anyone ever would have wanted,

901
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure even stuff now would want to

902
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: follow up to call it another exclusive. And if we

903
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: have learned anything it's that it's not hard to see

904
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: why the capital is in the state it's in. It's

905
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 3: not hard to sympathize whether fellow councilor is either. Must

906
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: be a nightmare dealing with this. And if the central

907
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: government woke up today and decided that Diane Kelviot was

908
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: right and an administrator might be a good idea, I

909
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: don't know how many people would be left objecting to

910
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: that asking. It's called a crazy train, Mike. Keep your

911
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: head down, do as you're told, be totally ineffective. Do

912
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: you reckon? Is that how you want to live your life?

913
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: It's called a job, Mike. Those of us that have

914
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: them are often faced with that dilemma. But sometimes choosing

915
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: not to do it is just too costly, so we

916
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: just suck it up. Tony, You're happy living that way.

917
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: Recost's ability to serve two apparently opposite approaches, Mike. The

918
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: word that you're looking for is duplicitous, Mike, recost her,

919
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: how do you explain it? It's called be an as

920
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: Kesser ask Glenn, Mike, how costs help with it?

921
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: Or did I not say exactly that?

922
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: It's exactly what he said, alf Heir, I said, yeah,

923
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: I have to be mate. If you're not loving every minute,

924
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: bugger off or words to that effect. Anyway, facial recognition,

925
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: you go into the supermarket. They've been trying this out.

926
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: Apparently it works. We don't have the final report. Tell

927
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: you what we do have the final report on today

928
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: is the pylon, the transpower pylon. Final report comes out today.

929
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 3: Here's my prediction. It will say something like numb things

930
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 3: went along and unscrewed too many bolts. Do you want

931
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: to take a bet on that or not? News for

932
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: you in the next then then we'll get back to

933
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: the supermarket. There are news talks Edbek.

934
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show you can Trust, the mic Hosking.

935
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from a different class.

936
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB Big Week four. Zelensky and America is

937
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: just wrapped up at the UN.

938
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Speaker 17: We have to prepare the second piece simmit to end

939
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 17: the war all together. And I invite all of you,

940
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Speaker 17: all principal Nieans, to join us in this process, all

941
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Speaker 17: who truly respect the UN Charter. We invite China, We

942
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 17: InVID Brazil, I have already invited. We are working with

943
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Speaker 17: African Nizis, with all of Latin America, Middle East, Central Asia, Europe,

944
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 17: the Pacific region, North America, all all are equally important

945
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 17: for this all without acceptions.

946
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Speaker 3: You're saying, as English has incrouved market in the last

947
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: couple of years. Hasn't it used to work really hard

948
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: on the English but now it seems almost fluent as

949
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: lensk get the U in a couple of moments ago,

950
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: twenty three minutes away from eight food stuff six months

951
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: facial recognition trial seems to have got the TIC. The

952
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: early indication suggests one hundred and thirty events like assault

953
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: and verbal abuse have been avoided. They are standing by

954
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 3: for a final report. But food Stuff's North Ireland General

955
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: Counsel Julian Benfield, well, there's Julian morning to you.

956
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: Morning Mike.

957
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: What have you got? I mean when we say the

958
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: final report, what have you got in front of you?

959
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: And how much more is coming in a final report

960
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: that may or may not change anything.

961
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 23: Yes, as you say, our trial has come to an

962
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 23: end and so this trial of facial recognition technology in

963
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 23: twenty five stores was all about helping to keep our

964
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 23: people safe. We've got a draft report from our independent evaluator,

965
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 23: so that's an evaluator that we appointed based on the

966
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 23: advice of the Privacy Commission. The early results from them

967
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 23: are strong. It's showing seventeen hundred and forty seven actual

968
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Speaker 23: matches of repeat offenders. And as you have said, the

969
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 23: early results show that we've avoided serious incidents one hundred

970
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 23: and thirty serious incidents, so that's things like assult and

971
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 23: verable abuse.

972
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 19: The safety of.

973
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 23: Our team is a top priority, so avoiding around one

974
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 23: hundred and thirty serious incidents is huge. That's one hundred

975
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 23: and thirty times that our team membersign in harms way

976
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 23: or attacked or abused. And we've also said that our

977
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Speaker 23: customers are very supportive of what we're doing. We are

978
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 23: based on that draft report. We're continuing to use facial

979
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Speaker 23: recognition technology in the meantime while we wait for that

980
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 23: final report from an independent evaluator. But they have said

981
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 23: to us that they don't expect the findings to materially

982
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 23: change between draft report and final report.

983
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: So do you how do you know it was avoided

984
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: if it didn't happen, How literally does that unfold?

985
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 23: So we've got our independent evaluator that that factors come

986
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 23: from the end of one hundred and thirty incidents that

987
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 23: are avoided has come from independent evaluator Scalety, who's a

988
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 23: respected research and evaluation firm. What they've looked at is

989
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 23: harmful behavior data at the twenty five trial stores and

990
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 23: compared that against the non trial stores. They've looked at

991
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 23: the direct defect of facial recognition, so the evidence that

992
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 23: it's actually detected offenders in store, as well as the

993
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 23: deterrent effect which has been real, so offenders choosing not

994
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 23: to come to the store at all because they think

995
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 23: that the technology will detect them.

996
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: Good bang for buck scenario, the technology to put it in,

997
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: how many you may or may not avoid, et cetera

998
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: versus the cost of you what does it work? Does

999
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: it add up well?

1000
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Speaker 23: I mean, these early results absolutely show that it's been

1001
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 23: a success. You know, we've seen some serious and seat

1002
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 23: of incidents avoided, minimal privacy impact based on early findings

1003
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 23: and customers support. In terms of the cost, we don't

1004
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 23: have a fixed budget tack or retail crime. We can't

1005
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 23: put a price on the safety of our team and customers.

1006
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 23: So also been what we need to do to address

1007
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 23: such an important issue.

1008
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: Is it could be I mean, you might be in

1009
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: the wrong department. Do you have a vibe that we

1010
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: were talking to Andrew cost Of the police commissioner before.

1011
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: This is all post COVID and we're all angsty and

1012
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: angry and furious and cost of living and all that

1013
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. Is it possible this thing will solve

1014
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: itself to a degree.

1015
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 23: Well, we think we need to do more, and that's

1016
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 23: why we've been raising attention to the retail crime issue

1017
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 23: two US so years now. We've seen massive increases in

1018
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 23: retail crime during that period. It is fair to say

1019
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 23: that there has been an increase in aggression in our

1020
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 23: stores since the COVID area. But our experts tell us

1021
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 23: that it's not cost of living that is causing this issue.

1022
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 23: Our security experts tell us it's professional criminals targeting brand

1023
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 23: specific goods and links to organized crime, and not linked

1024
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 23: to cost of living. And to be honest, no violence

1025
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 23: or aggression in our stores is acceptable. You know, all

1026
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 23: of our store teams deserve to return home safe every day.

1027
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: Those social media videos that I used to watch where

1028
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: the guy would literally walk through barefoot normally, grab a

1029
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: can of beers and a side of beef and then

1030
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: just walk out. But as the security guard watched them

1031
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: do that does that still happen And if it does regularly, I.

1032
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 23: Mean it happens all the time. We've reported on our incidents,

1033
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 23: and while they're slightly down this quarter, there are a

1034
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Speaker 23: huge number of incidents that come through. And you know,

1035
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Speaker 23: our trials focused on repeat offenders and in the last quarter,

1036
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 23: thirty eight percent of all offenses were caused by repeat offenders.

1037
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 23: So this facial recognition technology helps us to identify the

1038
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Speaker 23: defenders before they come into the store. And it's one

1039
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Speaker 23: of the most productive technologies that we can find because

1040
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Speaker 23: if you catch the offender earlier on in the store journey,

1041
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 23: they tend to be less aggressive when they are approached.

1042
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: Good conspiracy text, Mike, how many false positives? And how

1043
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 3: do we know they aren't using the data of the

1044
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: additional surveillance and shopper tracking.

1045
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 23: Yeah, well on the second point, absolutely not this. We've

1046
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 23: been very clear and transparent to New Zealand about the

1047
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 23: fact that this is solely about retail crime and it

1048
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 23: is solely about keep targeting repeat offenders and stopping them

1049
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 23: from doing more harm. That is all it's about, not

1050
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 23: about anything else. That is the sole focus of our trial.

1051
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 3: All right, Julian appreciated very much. Julian Benefield, who is

1052
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: with Foodstuffs in North Ireland. Their General Council eighteen minutes

1053
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: away from Eightsky go to the nation asb do their

1054
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: Regional Economic school Board. I always find it fascinating they

1055
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: look at annual growth if there is any employment, building,

1056
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 3: consents and retail sales. And we've got some really stark movements,

1057
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: like things have fallen off a cliff in some places

1058
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: and they've gone gangbusters and others. Now the biggest region

1059
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: in the country is Gisbon or the most successful region

1060
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: in the country. The most prosperous region in the country

1061
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: is Gismon. There up a couple a lot of building

1062
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: going on that particular part of the world. The worst

1063
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: region in the country, actually, I tell you the worst

1064
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 3: region in the country in the moment. Seventeen to two.

1065
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: The Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1066
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Speaker 2: by the News.

1067
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Speaker 11: Talks at B.

1068
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: Mike Morning. People aren't going back to the office in

1069
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 3: Wellington motorways full of damn cars Again, Well, I suppose

1070
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: that's good, isn't it. So the worst region in the country, unfortunately,

1071
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: and you were the worst last time. So this will

1072
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: come as no shock. Is Nelson, poor old Nelson. I

1073
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: mean Nelson you look at so much about Nelson is wonderful,

1074
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: and yet you're the least productive or least prosperous region

1075
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: in the country. Marlborough's down at fourteenth. Not only are

1076
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: they down fourteenth, equal Wellington. See Wellington. You can explain

1077
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: it if I say, hey, do you reckon? Wellington's doing

1078
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: well the A and R reckon they're about fourteenth out

1079
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: of sixteen in the country. You can explain it. Marlborough

1080
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: has fallen eleven places, so something dramatic has gone wrong

1081
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: in Marlborough. So the West coast is steady, still struggling

1082
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: a bit. The Bay of Plenty, which once upon a

1083
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 3: time we wanted to move to the Bay Plenty about

1084
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 3: a year ago when things were really going gangbusters. But

1085
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: your a bunch of losers. Now you're down seventh. Wouldn't

1086
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: touch you with a barge pole. Taranaki Auckland down. Auckland's miserable.

1087
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: So their ninth in the country. And that's the engine

1088
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: room of the economy. So you've got to worry about that.

1089
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: Mane of or two loong and evy, what's going on here.

1090
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: What's going on? Eight up? Eight up? Eight to seventh?

1091
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean something profound has happened to one were too

1092
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: long and we let me know what that is? Hawk's

1093
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: Bay through the roof again. We wanted to go to

1094
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: the bay. Saw a beautiful apartment advertised at the moment

1095
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 3: in Napier are ho Reary down by the port? Would

1096
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: you if you moved to Hawk's Bay by an apartment?

1097
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 3: An apartment seemed an odd thing to buy in Hawks Bay?

1098
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 5: Are we talking like high?

1099
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I know where you're asking about three or

1100
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: four stories? Yeah, I no, you wouldn't do that. This

1101
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: was the penthouse too. It's very nice, beautiful views, magnificent views.

1102
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 3: But I thought the same thing. I thought to myself,

1103
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 3: but might just.

1104
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 13: A long ago?

1105
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: How long are you gonna hold them to?

1106
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 11: You know?

1107
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: There was the thirties, For God's.

1108
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 5: Sake, some scars run, that's true.

1109
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: Northland up up a little bit? Why Katto up? Canterbury up?

1110
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: Canterbury is always up but number one of the country's gisman,

1111
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 3: followed by a target, a tiger A city. So good

1112
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: on you now listen just briefly, guy, yesterday in Australia,

1113
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: does breakfast television for the ABC. One of the guys

1114
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: who hosted the ABC's Ago we have on the program periodically,

1115
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 3: Michael Roland. Nice guy anyways is a guy read his sports,

1116
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: guy called Tony Armstrong. Only Armstrong sort of came out

1117
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: of nowhere three or four years ago. They thought he

1118
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: was quite cool. They hired and he reads the sport.

1119
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: Three and a half years in, he's quit. And this

1120
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: is what this is everything that's wrong with the media

1121
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: these days. It's not hard to be successful. And I'm

1122
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: a living, breathing example that all you gotta do is

1123
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 3: turn up. You don't have to be that good. I'm

1124
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: not that good. I'm not that brilliant, I'm not that exceptional.

1125
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: All I do is turn up every morning. And I've

1126
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: been doing it for a long time. And after a while,

1127
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: you going, ah, good old Mike. You don't like me

1128
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: any more than you used to like me, but you go,

1129
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: good old Mike. At least he turns up. This guy,

1130
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: Tony Armstrong, he was in the job for three and

1131
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: a half years. I mean, for God's sake, three and

1132
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: a half years. Any quote unquote feels like a zombie.

1133
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh it's the early morning EWS oh, really gets to

1134
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: you after a while. I mean, what's the matter with you?

1135
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: And if you don't believe me after sixteen years, look

1136
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: at Glenn. Glenn's been here for forty seven years, getting

1137
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: up in the early hours of the morning since just

1138
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: after the war, and every morning and no one likes Glenn,

1139
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: but we gore.

1140
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 13: Good old Glenn.

1141
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: He's still turning up every morning. And that's the key

1142
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: to success. So all of these people in media these

1143
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: days who think they've been serving the long time for

1144
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: three and a half years or four, who's been on

1145
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: the job for six years, now, that's not a thing.

1146
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 5: It's like a familiar smell, isn't it. It doesn't have

1147
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 5: to be a nice smell.

1148
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: But okay, I wasn't.

1149
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 5: Talking about me specifically, then maybe I am, But.

1150
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 3: I mean it's what happened to people who actually want

1151
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: to come to work and enjoy what they do. And

1152
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: the hours aren't really the out I mean, who cares

1153
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: what the hours are? And you don't have to three

1154
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 3: and a half years them if you zombie, so I'll

1155
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: have to quit. Then what's he going to do? The

1156
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: working for the ABC? Immediately they said that, fine of

1157
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 3: another job, But that's you know, just what happened to

1158
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: a bit of stoicism, a bit of determination, a bit

1159
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: of professionalism, a bit of consistency, a bit of loyalty,

1160
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: a bit of get off your ars and do something

1161
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: half decent fit. That's It's how you get enjoyment. It's

1162
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: how Mike sees it. Turn Away Frost, Breakfast with Baile's

1163
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: real estate news talks, they'd be given away from It

1164
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: turns out we're not drinking milk the way we used to.

1165
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: We had one point two million fewer glasses last year.

1166
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 3: That's five point six million liters less over the last

1167
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: couple of decades. Obviously there's some nutritional fallout from that.

1168
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: I guess ABC Nutritions. Angela beryls well, this's Angela.

1169
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 24: Morning, Good morning, Mike, show you.

1170
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm very well, indeed take you. So we've got fewer

1171
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 3: people drinking less milk, but that doesn't tell us why

1172
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 3: do we know why?

1173
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 24: Well, look, Fonterra Brand's actually conducted some research earlier this

1174
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 24: year and it's down to a few different reasons. There's

1175
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 24: a changing demographic makeup of New Zealand, which isn't favoring

1176
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 24: milk consumption. There's a dominance in processed foods, including the

1177
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 24: likes of fuzzy drinks which are now dominating our supermarket shelves.

1178
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 24: Is the trend in plant based milk alternatives. Also these

1179
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 24: awareness issues and consumers are not necessarily understanding the benefits

1180
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 24: of milk, but also they might not be aware of

1181
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 24: the very broad range of milk products available. So for example,

1182
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 24: Angor has a zero electo products that's souitable for those

1183
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 24: that are lactose intolerant. There's quite a broad range of

1184
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 24: products available there as well.

1185
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: So what is this about? Is it about people drinking

1186
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 3: less milk and who cares? It's just a bottom line

1187
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: business thing. Or is it if we drink less milk

1188
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: there are consequences health wise down the track and we

1189
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: don't quite know what they are.

1190
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 24: And I think this is exactly it's Mike. We know that,

1191
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 24: you know, drinking milk it provides us with a fast

1192
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 24: ray of nutrients. So it's a really nutrient packed whole food.

1193
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 24: It contains you know, protein, you calcium, but also the

1194
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 24: likes of vitamin's aa B, two B to ol, phosphorus,

1195
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 24: SM and zinc as well. So what we know is

1196
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 24: that we need calcium especially during those early years up

1197
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 24: until about the mid twenties, to help build our peak

1198
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 24: bone mass or peak bone density. So what we estimate

1199
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 24: is that if people are actually reducing their say dairy

1200
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 24: or milk intake, and they're not getting that calcium from

1201
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 24: other sources, then we may be looking at an increased

1202
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 24: risk of say, osteoporosis and bone fracture down in those

1203
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 24: later years when these young children or younger adults are

1204
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 24: becoming older adults. So it might not be for another

1205
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 24: fifty or so years before we actually start to see

1206
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 24: the impact of this declining milk consumption.

1207
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 3: Is the intolerance you see in my lifetime. Everything's changed.

1208
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 3: Chocolate's now good for you, or dark chocolates, coffees apparently

1209
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: now good for you. What was bad is now good,

1210
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: what was good is now bad. Is milk suffering some

1211
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: of that as well or not?

1212
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 24: I think there's been a lot of misinformation around. I mean,

1213
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 24: you only have to look on you know, some of

1214
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 24: your streaming TV documentaries that can be incredibly biased and

1215
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 24: don't necessarily provide you with accurate nutrition information. And I

1216
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 24: think also everyone seems to be an expert in nutrition

1217
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 24: these days that people really need to turn to registered

1218
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 24: dietitians for nutrition advice, and we can help you and

1219
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 24: Ie both pinpoint what's going to be correct for someone's

1220
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 24: health and bust a lot of those muths as well.

1221
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: Again toel appreciate Angela Burrell Well Beryl Nutritionists. Four minutes

1222
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: away from asking Mike none, it's too steady. We don't

1223
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: get the highs or the lows. Would you like me

1224
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: to get the mayor Grant Smith to give you a call? No, No,

1225
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: I'll pass on that, thanks, Mike. Drugs is the downfall

1226
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: of Nelson's Stokes all rentals in the unemployed. Excellent insight,

1227
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: Either that or a gross generalization one or the other.

1228
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be about sandwich boards.

1229
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: Well it could be the sandwich boards as well the

1230
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 3: drugs misd.

1231
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 5: I really turn a corner now that they've ban those

1232
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: sandwiches and.

1233
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: The sandwich boards. Nelson banning sandwich boards since nineteen ninety nine.

1234
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: That's how you do it, Mike. We loved Glenn. You see,

1235
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: I've told you what happens was you came home from

1236
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: the war, you turned on well it was transistor back then,

1237
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: wasn't it turned on the transistor? And that was Glenn.

1238
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, put the baker light earpiece in the air.

1239
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: Exactly, just got to hang around a one news for

1240
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: you in a couple of moments. Then as Politics Wednesday,

1241
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell exclusive to the Mike Hosking Breakfast

1242
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: could because no one else wants them, but I'm a.

1243
00:59:53,360 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: Pin big news fold opinions the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

1244
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial and

1245
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: rural news.

1246
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: Todd Stead b.

1247
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 11: I don't remember.

1248
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: Is it must be the AFL final she's doing this weekend.

1249
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: This is Katie Perry and something's happened to her and

1250
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: I can't quite work out what it is. And she's

1251
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: once upon a time she was almost as big as

1252
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: a big thing, and then it's all seemingly gone wrong

1253
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: and she's never been able to recover. And she looks

1254
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 3: a bit I don't know why. She looks a little

1255
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: bit tragically days, but sad but needy. Whatever it is anyway,

1256
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 3: the review says, seemingly learning nothing from those past miss steps,

1257
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: the miss steps of the various albums she's produced seventeen

1258
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: to Witness, twenty twenty, Smile, teenage dream, Perry wanders even

1259
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: further off path with this lifeless, floundering makeup of one

1260
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 3: four three, which is the name of the album. One

1261
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: fourth three is the name of the album. And because

1262
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: the boss was in here, this gives you an boss,

1263
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: was it? What do you call me? He says, loose,

1264
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 3: very loose today? Didn't he didn't? He just said very

1265
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: very loose.

1266
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 25: Yeah.

1267
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 5: We predicted he was going to come in and say

1268
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 5: you were beyond.

1269
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: Near some like that. And so because of all of that,

1270
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: which I think is workplaced bullying, it is close enough

1271
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 3: and work placed bauling to want to do something about him.

1272
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 5: We might have to force him out.

1273
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: You might have to force me to be cool. Two

1274
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: day Time eleven tracks. All of them sound like this.

1275
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 3: Am I right? Because I haven't heard it, any of

1276
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: them apart from this one, but they all sound like this.

1277
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 3: We only interviewed her once. Do you reckon the chance

1278
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: of interviewing a DNA?

1279
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 5: Slim and now that you've said all that stuff, slim

1280
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 5: to none.

1281
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 3: Eight minutes past eight, Ginny Anderson is with us along

1282
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: with Mike Mitchell. Good morning to both of you too.

1283
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Good morning now, Jinny.

1284
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 26: I'm still in shock. I'm stilling shocked that you actually

1285
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 26: played Katie Perry was coming to temper.

1286
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1287
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: It's a bit much, isn't it. We try and be

1288
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 3: a bit hip and groovy every now and again, Jinny,

1289
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 3: just to go for the younger demo. Anyway, Now, what

1290
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: were you meaning in your press release here? Sometimes tense

1291
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: relationship between Costa and Mitchell. It was always going to

1292
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: be hard for a dog handler and a detective to

1293
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: see I to eye on these big overarching strategic issues.

1294
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 3: Now what what What sort of knife were you pulling

1295
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 3: out of your sheet there and stabbing it into his back?

1296
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 26: I think another at all. I just think that they

1297
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 26: came to the job front perspectives and that came out

1298
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 26: pretty clear right from the start.

1299
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: Okay, what were your thoughts your thoughts on.

1300
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 27: Well, firstly, that was a clear swipe again, Claus, it

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Speaker 27: didn't he Anderson making it personal clear swipe the dogs?

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Speaker 27: What correspondent, Well, you can explain it to Jenny Butt

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Speaker 27: And now that the correspondence off there on the dog

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Speaker 27: section is hilarious. They think that it's very funny that

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Speaker 27: an ex civilian worker from P and HQ is having

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Speaker 27: a swipe at the dog section are actually out there

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Speaker 27: doing it. And by the way, Jenny, if if I'm

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Speaker 27: going to talk about public service, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 27: I'll measure you up against sergeants. So Burrogs the OC

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Speaker 27: of the woman we dog section that said, who I

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Speaker 27: was with last week we actually doing the hard yards

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Speaker 27: and doesn't really appreciate. I don't think the dogs section

1313
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Speaker 27: really appreciate being criticized for the work that they're out

1314
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Speaker 27: there doing. And by the way, the other thing that's

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Speaker 27: really puzzling about this whole thing, Mike, is that I'm

1316
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Speaker 27: pretty sure Ginny Nson married an ex police dog handler.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Well, it just goes to the point, Mike, doesn't it

1319
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Speaker 26: that I wasn't then critical at all of the dog section.

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Speaker 26: My point was they had different operational perspectives and a

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Speaker 26: mark so sensitive that he takes that to heart and

1322
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Speaker 26: I apologize.

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Speaker 1: So well.

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Speaker 27: It was an unnecessary personal swape, Jinny, and you've got

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Speaker 27: a habit of doing those. I just say, just beg

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 27: it down a little bit, doesn't.

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01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 26: He I'm sorry that you're sensiti and I don't want

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Speaker 26: to hurt your feelings.

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Speaker 3: Eight what Jenny, your thoughts, your thoughts on cost He's a.

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Speaker 26: Great guy like he's intelligent. He worked incredibly hard, and

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01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 26: I worked alongside of him when I was in police

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Speaker 26: when he was an assistant commissioner and irate him. I

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Speaker 26: think he's a good person who did a great job,

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Speaker 26: and he went above and beyond to do everything he could,

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Speaker 26: and he had some really challenging things.

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Speaker 15: To deal with.

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Speaker 3: Was one of them your government.

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Speaker 26: One of them was a protest, for sure, and I

1339
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 26: think his comments around COVID and what that did a

1340
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Speaker 26: society and what that did to crime in New Zealand

1341
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Speaker 26: was one of the big things that he had to

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Speaker 26: grapple with.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing that he said yesterday his most defining moment,

1344
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: or his proudest moment, was where they cleared that protest out.

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 3: My argument would be he should never have let the

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: protests get to where it did in the first place.

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Speaker 26: It's really difficult in hindsight to see operationally what could

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Speaker 26: have been done better. I've heard comments from police that

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 26: when that big dove came in, that big reign that

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 26: really made an impact on the tense, that that was

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 26: an opportunity that could have been used. I mean, in hindsight,

1352
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 26: this twenty twenty vision of what could have been done better.

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 26: But I think whatever happens, both parliament, MP's and the

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 26: police all lined a lot from how we could do

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Speaker 26: things better next time.

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Speaker 3: Mark, is it fair to suggest, in particular ularly Luckson's

1357
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: comments yesterday as well as yours, that you've either changed

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: your mind or you're so glad he's leaving that you

1359
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 3: couldn't help yourself but being nice, because what you did

1360
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: say and what you said yesterday are two completely different things.

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Speaker 27: No. I think in opposition was very clear that I

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01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 27: didn't agree the direction on which the government was taking

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 27: us as in terms of their policies in public safety

1364
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 27: rapidly as the Commissioners set himself he's got to serve

1365
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 27: the government of today. That is difficult, but I would

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 27: say that as the incoming government, and as I released

1367
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 27: my very clear leader of expectation, which I released publicly

1368
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 27: so that old country could see, he's responded to that

1369
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 27: and without a doubt, and he's put a shoulder to

1370
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 27: the wheel, and like you said himself, were starting to

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01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 27: see some good early results from them. We've got a

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01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 27: long way to go, it's a lot more to do,

1373
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 27: but you know, there's definitely been a response.

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01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Ginny Richard Chambers and is it Jabon Jevon mix

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01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 3: skimmyn Ginny you know those two, Yes, they would they

1376
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: make good commissioners, either of them.

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Speaker 24: There great.

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 15: They're both good, good police officers who.

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 26: Have done many years of operational police service in the organization.

1380
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 26: Very while different to the skills, but they're both great.

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01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:07,479
Speaker 3: Mark.

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01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 27: Yeah, look, I agree as I've worked very closely obviously

1383
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 27: with Jiven and my roles Minister. I don't know Richards

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01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 27: as well, but he's also got a very big reputation

1385
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 27: in a lot of experience, and you don't get to

1386
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 27: be an assistant commission or a deputy commissioner without having met.

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: And so they will present you with a couple of options.

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01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: You and the Prime Minister will make the choice. As

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: my understanding you.

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 27: So it goes to a panel. Now the Public Service

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 27: Commission runs that process. They'll come with recommendation to myself

1393
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 27: which I then take to the Prime Minister and ultimately

1394
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 27: the Prime Minister and I make the decision on who

1395
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 27: will be appointed as our next police commissioner.

1396
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 3: Fantastic brief break, talk about four year terms in the moment,

1397
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: Jimmy and Jinny Anderson and Mark Mentell thirteen Past.

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, how

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Speaker 3: It'd be you talking to make sixteen Past Day Politics Wednesday,

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01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell gy Ginny. Do you have a view on

1402
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: four year terms or not?

1403
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 26: Well, my recollection is I have for my sins a

1404
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 26: week for Judith Colins. When I was in police, she

1405
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 26: was minister and that was when National Foods came in

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01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 26: in two thousand and eight and I'd been working previously

1407
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 26: as a as a an in the Beehive and you

1408
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 26: and what struck me was when you had a new

1409
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 26: government coming in, it took them a full year to

1410
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 26: just understand how.

1411
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 15: The system worked.

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 26: And I'm not being critical at all, it was just

1413
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 26: people had never been ministers before coming in trying to

1414
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 26: come to terms with it. Then they had about a

1415
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 26: year to do stuff and then you had a year

1416
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 26: of campaigning.

1417
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 15: So, especially when you're a first term.

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01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 26: Government, even harder when you're in a coalition because you've

1419
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 26: got three different parties with three different agendas, Trying to

1420
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 26: deliver stuff is becoming harder and harder. And so I

1421
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 26: think that a four to two year will be a

1422
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 26: far better way for Foot New Zealand to progress and

1423
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 26: see continuity over time.

1424
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: What do you recommend, Well, I.

1425
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 27: Don't accept for admitt it that truth Colin needed a year.

1426
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 27: They can't things done.

1427
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 26: They all and I'm not saying labor as well.

1428
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 27: There is nonsense that you should you shouldn't be a minister,

1429
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 27: you shouldn't be a miss or government.

1430
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: I look at you guys, you're a year and now right,

1431
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 3: and you've done a lot of stuff, Sime and Brown's

1432
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: announced more things than he's actually done. I mean that

1433
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 3: guy's held more press conferences than he's put through legislation.

1434
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: And you're still working through a lot of what you

1435
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: want to do, and you'll need all of this one

1436
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 3: year plus you'll need all of next and then at

1437
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: the end of the next year, presumably you'll go, look

1438
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 3: what we've done. Here we go, let's have an election campaign.

1439
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 27: The first part is in terms of continuity, and I

1440
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 27: think Favor I've sort of moved into four year space

1441
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 27: as well in terms of getting things done, though certainly

1442
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 27: in my portfolios we're getting things done within six feet

1443
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 27: state six state weeks. Changes were starting to take Hick

1444
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 27: and I can point to those, So I just don't

1445
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 27: exact if if you're seriously saying that you can't give

1446
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 27: anything done on the twelve months, you've got to have

1447
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:03,799
Speaker 27: a look at yourself.

1448
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 3: Okay, let me give you a couple of examples. Where

1449
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 3: are the fairies.

1450
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 15: Think?

1451
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 27: Well, the fairies decision that's just that. Well, let me

1452
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 27: give you some examples in mind portfolios.

1453
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: Why are we doing one hundred and twenty on the

1454
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: roads of national significant significance.

1455
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 27: Yet you see more beat officers on the street.

1456
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 11: Incredible.

1457
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: What I'm saying IS's pointed. I mean, there's a lot

1458
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: of stuff you haven't done. You've been there a year.

1459
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 27: So I'm not saying that or so in it one minute.

1460
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 27: What I'm saying is that I don't think the text

1461
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 27: parts of this country expect a government to change and

1462
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 27: then everyone sit around for twelve months and not doing anything.

1463
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 27: There's been an enormous legislation program underway that's now this

1464
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 27: loot done in the first eight months of this government.

1465
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 27: There had been some big fundamental changes made. We do

1466
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 27: have a world class public service that will adapt and

1467
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 27: start to deliver on that. I just think that to

1468
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 27: accept the fact that Judith Collins, CA. Women couldn't do

1469
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 27: something into ald months just regristing before. Of course you

1470
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 27: could do it.

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 3: In conclusion, both of you, both of you would favor

1472
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 3: a four year Probably.

1473
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 26: You get more time, You get more time to because

1474
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 26: it's a crazy rush and you see, you know, things

1475
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 26: being done, like, for example, announcements being made just that

1476
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 26: sound good or for the face of it without actually

1477
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 26: really delivering things. And if you're serious about making long

1478
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 26: term change on infrastructure, on important things like transport, you

1479
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 26: need a longer period of time to deliver those properly.

1480
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: Okay, would you, Jenny, while I got you work from home,

1481
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 3: would you do you broadly agree with what the government's

1482
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: done or you don't mind?

1483
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 26: Well, yeah, it's a bit of a how many hour

1484
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 26: wisk from home because we don't know that for sure.

1485
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 26: I did find it interesting that the day they don't meet,

1486
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 26: but you know they check out child poverty targets. And also,

1487
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 26: Nicole McKee, you put stuff through cabinet that loosens up

1488
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 26: gun ranges that the stand up and cabinet is all

1489
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 26: about making public servants go back to work. So I

1490
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 26: think it's politics of distraction, to be honest. But people

1491
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 26: definitely should go to work. I'm more concerned about the

1492
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 26: six thousands who don't have jobs in Wellington, in the

1493
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 26: state of the Wellington local economy as a result of that.

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: Marke Well I.

1495
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 27: Just thought that, you know, it's at the end of

1496
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 27: the day, working from home arrangements that should not be

1497
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 27: as entitlement. There should be some flexibility in the system,

1498
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 27: but it should be a genuine agreement between the employee

1499
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 27: and the employer. I think that there is definitely absolute

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 27: value and being in the office, building those relationships, getting

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 27: mentoring from more senior colleagues around experience in personal growth.

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01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 27: I think there's a whole lot of reasons why, very

1503
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 27: good reasons why that connection is really important. And so

1504
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 27: you know, and I completely totally support what the Minister's done.

1505
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 3: Good stuff go well, We'll see next Wednesday. Mark Mitchell,

1506
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,280
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1515
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Speaker 3: finding the buyers that the well others can't. Basically, so

1516
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: Bailey's buyers they see the value and they feel the potential.

1517
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 3: And Bailey's buyers they're all over the country, right across

1518
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 3: the world in fact, and Bailey's buyers are ready to

1519
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: make your property their next adventure. So for half a century,

1520
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 3: Bailey's have done real estate differently with a multi disciplined

1521
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: approach and expertise across the residential, commercial, rural, ender property services.

1522
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: So it all means basically that Bailey's is expertly positioned

1523
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: to add value time after time from the farm to

1524
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: the factory, family home, facility management. Bailey's they got the

1525
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 3: boots on the ground, proudly delivering all together better results

1526
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 3: across all corners of the property sector. Since nineteen seventy three,

1527
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: Bailey's dot co dot nz as your address Bailey's dot

1528
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 3: co dot nz you can discover the difference license. Of course,

1529
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: under the RAA Act of two thousand and eight, tasking

1530
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 3: my problem in twong This fluoridation thing fascinates me. I'm

1531
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: actually a fluoride fan. I like fluoride. I think fluoride

1532
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: is good for you. I think it should be in

1533
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: the water. So let's not go down that track. If

1534
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 3: you disagree with me. All I'm saying is that there

1535
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: was needed from the Ministry of Health. It was just

1536
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 3: before Ashley quit and moved on, and he basically rounded

1537
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: up fourteen councils and he told them you got to

1538
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 3: go do it. One of those councils was Tawong and

1539
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 3: they went, well, hold on and this went to court

1540
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 3: and interestingly enough, the court said it wasn't legal. So

1541
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 3: we've got this sort of the standoff with the court

1542
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: saying one thing. The Ministry of Health's now appealing that

1543
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: the High Court decision found the order enforcing the fourteen

1544
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: councils to fluoridate was unlawful. The Ministry is appealing that.

1545
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 3: So Twonger goes, we'll hold on while this is in court.

1546
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 3: Why don't we ask for a delay because we don't

1547
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 3: necessarily want to do it. So the Ministry comes back.

1548
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 3: The High Court had twice confirmed the direction. They argue

1549
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 3: for councils to fluoridate the water supplies, and that remained valid,

1550
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 3: so Tarong's request for an extension is not granted. When

1551
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: the council is stuck and they go, what do we do? Now?

1552
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: Personally I'd hold out, but their fear is that under penalty,

1553
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 3: if you don't do it, then you're potentially going to

1554
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: be fined up to two hundred thousand dollars and an

1555
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: additional ten thousand dollars for each and every day of

1556
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 3: non compliance. So they freaked out and they're going to

1557
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: have to do it despite the fact it may well

1558
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: eventually end up through the courts. The court's saying, well, no,

1559
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 3: you can't force these people to fluoridate water at all,

1560
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: which would then be another discussion about how dysfunctional the

1561
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 3: whole country is and how come Ashley rounded up fourteen

1562
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 3: councils and not all the councils and the whole thing's

1563
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: are messed. But anyway, that's where Toweronga is at the moment. Hey,

1564
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 3: do you know want to know who's miserable? Australia's miserable

1565
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: because their misery indexes out. So if you're just thinking about,

1566
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 3: you know, lobbing over to the Gold Coast because you

1567
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 3: hate this place. It's even worse over there, sucked and good. Anyway,

1568
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: I'll give you the numbers with Murray and a couple

1569
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: of moments after the news which is.

1570
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: Next demanding the answers from the decision makers the My

1571
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast with Veta Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News

1572
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: togs dB.

1573
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 3: I'll work you through the fine detail in just a

1574
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 3: couple of moments. But it's the big day for Fontier.

1575
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 3: A lot of people in this country are not just

1576
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 3: the farmers, are looking for the numbers. And the initial

1577
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 3: number is the midpoint as now nine dollars ten. It

1578
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 3: is the farm gate price. It's up fifty cents. So

1579
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 3: the midpoint now is at nine dollars ten. So if

1580
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: you believe dre in New Zealand eight po six as

1581
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: you break even point on average, so a midpoint of

1582
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 3: nine ten, things are on the up and up for Derry.

1583
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: But more in a moment. Twenty three to.

1584
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

1585
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: Mind for New Zealand Business, The.

1586
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 3: Turner Murray Olds Morning, Perion, Hello, Michael, good morning now

1587
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 3: the RB yesterday and our old friend Michelle, So a hold.

1588
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 3: I think most people were expecting a hold, But how

1589
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: many people And I'm reading a lot of commentary. It's

1590
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: all negative, and it's it's you know, we're bleeding, and

1591
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 3: it's a disaster and all that sort of stuff. Do

1592
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 3: many people in Australia that you here say the reason

1593
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 3: you're holding is because you actually have a level of

1594
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 3: liberty and elevation in the economy that deems it necessary

1595
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: for her to hold and not cut. In other words,

1596
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 3: you only cut if you're in deep trouble and you're not.

1597
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 11: Well.

1598
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 25: It depends which way you look at inflation, and there

1599
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 25: are two ways to look at inflation. You've got the

1600
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 25: underlying inflation, the headline inflation. The headline inflation rate looks

1601
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 25: to be pretty low two point seven percent. We've got

1602
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 25: to figures out today. That's what economists are expecting. The

1603
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,839
Speaker 25: headline rate of inflation will be under three percent today,

1604
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 25: and we know the Reserve Bank of Australia says interest

1605
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 25: rates will not come down until inflation's between two and

1606
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 25: three percent. That's the sweet spot. But the RBA does

1607
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 25: not look at headline inflation. It strips out things like

1608
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 25: government help subsidies to pay energy bills. That's pushing inflation down.

1609
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 25: The Reserve Bank realizes that's only a sugarhead. It's a

1610
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 25: short term stimulus that is dampening inflation because people are

1611
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,879
Speaker 25: actually getting help to pay the bills.

1612
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:01,839
Speaker 11: That's underlying inflation.

1613
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 25: That's what they want to strip out, those one off sugarheads.

1614
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 25: And Michelle Bullock and the team are saying, listen, it's

1615
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 25: not that flash. You've also got something called the Misery Index.

1616
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 25: Now I've not heard of this before. I knew you

1617
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 25: wanted to talk about it this morning, so I went

1618
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 25: digging and the Sydney Morning Herald's going to crack a

1619
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 25: yarn on this. Apparently, Well, the Committee for the Economic

1620
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 25: Development of Australia has worked out Australians are more economically

1621
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 25: miserable than they've been ever since, you know, long before COVID,

1622
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 25: the COVID, but he drove us into the dumps, as

1623
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 25: you know, But since twenty eleven we've never been this

1624
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 25: sad sack over here about the economy. The index is

1625
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 25: calculated by looking at the rate of inflation.

1626
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 11: The unemployment, rate of interest rates.

1627
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 25: And Michelle Bullick looks he's trying to steer this path.

1628
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:49,440
Speaker 25: So apparently we are very very flat, indeed miserable economically.

1629
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 11: Don't forget Australia.

1630
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 25: One third has paid off the home, one third is

1631
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 25: trying to pay it off, they've got the mortgage, and

1632
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 25: one third is renting. And the second report out yesterday

1633
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 25: Mike by IPSOS has found levels of misery and satisfaction

1634
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 25: very very different. Boomers that would be me have largely

1635
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 25: paid off the home. We've got a bit of cash

1636
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 25: in the bank. It's the youngsters trying to buy their

1637
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 25: first time and they are so grumpy and absolutely peeved

1638
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 25: off with governments of all descriptions because they can't get

1639
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 25: into the home market. It's a mess, it's a hot mess,

1640
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 25: and there's lots of moving parts and goodness knows where

1641
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 25: it's going to finish.

1642
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 3: So it's funny thing. I read another article the other

1643
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: day the number of people moving into state has collapsed

1644
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 3: because their argument was they can't afford to move into state.

1645
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 3: So once upon a time it was all Queensland. Everyone

1646
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: couldn't wait to get to Queensland fast enough. And if

1647
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 3: you weren't going to Queensland, are going to wa But

1648
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: you can't afford to do that now. Yet I sit

1649
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 3: on this side of the Tasman and we literally are

1650
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 3: sitting record after record after record of New Zealand is scarpering,

1651
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: mainly to Australia. So it's a funny thing, isn't it.

1652
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: It's all psychological. It doesn't need to be factual because

1653
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 3: factually you're not doing that well. But psychologically many people

1654
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: sit here and go, tell you what that Australia, what

1655
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: you know, how good is that? I can't wait to

1656
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 3: get there? We ad ah, well, it is.

1657
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 25: A bit weird and there are lots of again, lots

1658
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 25: of moving parts. I mean, we had a strike yesterday

1659
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 25: here in New South Wales by nurses and midwives. Why

1660
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 25: because they're getting paid twenty percent more in Queensland. The

1661
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 25: state government here, the labor state government in New South Wales,

1662
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 25: Australia's biggest state, the biggest economy, says we cannot afford

1663
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 25: to pay what they're paying. In Queensland they had ten years,

1664
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 25: we had ten years of coalition government. Here in New

1665
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 25: South Wales, public sector waves rises were capped at two

1666
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 25: and a half percent, never mind what inflation was. So nurses, police,

1667
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 25: teachers and so on, they're well behind the eight ball.

1668
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 25: They are not getting paid as much as they are,

1669
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,919
Speaker 25: for example in Queensland. So we still have that migration

1670
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 25: north out of New South Wales and people are leaving

1671
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 25: big smoke like Sydney. They're going to live and work

1672
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 25: in smaller regional centers because they simply cannot afford to

1673
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 25: get started here in Sydney.

1674
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 3: It's too expended, precisely, So why it's the same, I guess, yes,

1675
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: it's the same here. See, I was funny enough, I

1676
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 3: was looking at some places in Queensland the other day houses.

1677
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: So why if you're a nurse or a policeman and

1678
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: you earn a bit more in Queensland and your housing's

1679
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 3: cheaper in Queensland, and it's sunnier in Queensland, then why

1680
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: wouldn't you go? I mean, what do you want to

1681
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: sit in the town Sydney accountable to house? What's the

1682
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 3: point of that?

1683
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 11: It's full of bloody Queenslanders.

1684
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 25: Look look a cheaper housing, better climate and better wages.

1685
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 11: I mean, why wouldn't you go if you've got a

1686
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 11: young family?

1687
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1688
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 3: Exactly. This rooftop solar panels. The other thing I'm following

1689
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 3: very closely because my understanding was once upon a time

1690
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: in Australia you got your panel on your roof and

1691
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 3: then you'd get paid for the power that you gave

1692
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 3: the power company the stuff you didn't use. Then that's

1693
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 3: swapped and now they charge you because they don't want

1694
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: the power. Plus the market's collapse because they've got no

1695
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: customers left because everyone's gone and stuck a panel on

1696
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: their roof.

1697
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 11: Very very much.

1698
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 25: So there's new figures out this morning that basically mums

1699
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 25: and dads are putting so many panels on their on

1700
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 25: their roofs across the country. Four times more electricity generation

1701
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 25: through rooftop solar in the first six months of twenty

1702
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 25: twenty four than all of the commercial projects combined. That's

1703
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 25: down again a bunch of factors. We're desperately trying to

1704
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 25: upgrade the national electricity grid, the network that takes power

1705
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 25: from where it's generated out to where it's needed.

1706
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 11: Now that's like I mean, it's you know, like Noah

1707
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 11: used it. It's so old.

1708
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 25: It just can't cope with the amount of renewables coming online.

1709
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 25: That's why energy regulators had to lower the price that

1710
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 25: was paying households for you know, all the power they

1711
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 25: were generating you've also got a big uptaken batteries. A

1712
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 25: good mate of mine here in Sydney he installed a battery,

1713
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 25: a big battery on the side of his home to store.

1714
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 11: The power that he's generating of his roof. His power bills.

1715
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 25: He's paying about eighty cents a week or something for

1716
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 25: his power bill's I mean a big investment. He spent

1717
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 25: about right, I don't know, forty k Yeah, but and

1718
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 25: he's so tight. This guy's from Canada. He is so

1719
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,520
Speaker 25: tight he makes a Scotsman look positively flush with cash.

1720
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 25: He says, you'll pay it off in five six years,

1721
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 25: that's how good the savings are going to be.

1722
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 3: That's interesting because the average the average is seven so

1723
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: in this country it's seventy years and the average turnover

1724
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: for a house. So if you're one of those people

1725
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: who you know you're not moving, then it's probably worth

1726
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 3: you while because it's a big out working on the roof. Yeah, exactly,

1727
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: do you see it? Because the other thing I read

1728
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: in Australia the other day is wealthy suburbs don't have

1729
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 3: them because they don't have to. So in other words, no,

1730
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: it's seeing I mean, you know your bill two or

1731
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: three four hundred dollars a week. What do you care?

1732
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: Because you've got the dough and you see them more

1733
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 3: in regionalized suburbs of places like Sydney because you know

1734
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 3: they need the money.

1735
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, that's very true.

1736
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 25: If you drive through the city's western suburbs, home prices

1737
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 25: are more modest than they are saying Hunter's Hill or

1738
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 25: you know, the eastern suburbs. Dear boy, we can't have

1739
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 25: these rotty solar panels so destroying the skyline and and

1740
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 25: four clues.

1741
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: You've got that beautiful Italian terra cotta. Why would you

1742
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 3: want to stick something really ugly on that?

1743
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 11: Because you're saving money. But as you say, you don't

1744
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 11: need it in Double Bay.

1745
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 3: No, exactly this this bleeders load just quickly. The three

1746
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 3: game format, I've never understood it. Why isn't it the

1747
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: best of three? Why do you have to have two

1748
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 3: and a one all drawer? And that's stupid, isn't it?

1749
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 25: Well it is a bit daft. I mean, I love

1750
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 25: the three game format. You know, one team wins the first,

1751
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 25: another team wins the second.

1752
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 11: The decider is always exciting.

1753
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 25: But I mean, look, don't forget lettersloads are big deals

1754
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 25: both sides of the Tasman. I mean, you're going to

1755
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 25: get a full house every time. But it is a

1756
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 25: bit sad, isn't it When you're going to go to

1757
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,959
Speaker 25: Wellingen this Saturday house at the Cake ten and there's nothing.

1758
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 6: On the line.

1759
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 25: I mean, it's a bit and don't forget Look Australia.

1760
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 25: I know rugby union over here is the fourth code.

1761
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 25: Just about you've got Asie rules in rugby league and

1762
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 25: football call it soccer. Is that maybe the third string

1763
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 25: and rugby very much the fourth But you know, once

1764
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 25: upon a time this transit has to be rival was

1765
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 25: just about the best in the world. It was fantastic.

1766
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 25: We can get back there maybe, But they're talking about

1767
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 25: an Anzac Day rugby union one off test I.

1768
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 11: Think from twenty twenty six.

1769
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 25: That's the suggestion this morning, is that maybe that the

1770
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 25: Blederslow's on the line for that one off Anzac Day

1771
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 25: Test and then later in the year when there's another

1772
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 25: couple to be played because the calendar is so crowded,

1773
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 25: that's why it was cut from three to two the

1774
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 25: international calendar, so you have the Anzac Day Test with

1775
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 25: the letters Loaves on the line, then later in the year,

1776
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 25: you got two more to decide the outcome for that year.

1777
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 25: That to me looks like a pretty bloody good idea.

1778
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: Good on you, all right, see, I appreciate it. Murrayold's

1779
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 3: across the Test and get back to the farm in Pontier.

1780
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 3: In a moment fourteen two the Hike.

1781
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard by News Talk, sa'd.

1782
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: Be comparison to Australia. So the Big AFL Finals this weekend.

1783
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 3: Problem with the mcg is it's in Melbourne and one

1784
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: of the teams in the final is the Sydney Swans

1785
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 3: and the other team in the final of the Brisbane line.

1786
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 3: So all the teams are traveling and to get a

1787
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 3: ticket you can't and if you can, darding price for

1788
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: a round trip from Sydney with Quantus is one thousand bucks,

1789
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 3: which is twice the price it normally is Virgin slightly

1790
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 3: cheaper at seven hundred dollars, but from Brisbane it's thirteen

1791
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 3: hundred dollars more than double wadded. It is so exact

1792
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 3: more airlines. So we go back to this whole thing. Oh,

1793
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 3: we haven't got enough competition. Well, they've got plenty of

1794
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 3: competition in Australia. Seventy million dollars one game brings into Melbourne,

1795
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: the Melbourne economy. They've got a public holiday around it,

1796
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: of course, the AFL final anyway, the point being that

1797
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 3: doesn't matter where you go. The same problems that we

1798
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 3: face here are the same problems they face across the Tasman.

1799
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 11: Right.

1800
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 3: Good news, this business of Fontira. They announced this morning

1801
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 3: the fifty cent left in the forecast farm gate milk

1802
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 3: price mid point nine bucks. Will take that all day long.

1803
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: The share price, the dividend they pay forty to sixty

1804
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 3: cents at this particular point in time, So take your

1805
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 3: nine bucks, take your let's call it fifty, so you're

1806
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: collecting nine to fifty. So they see a strengthening global

1807
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 3: dairy trade price generally they see a constrained milk supply

1808
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: and key producing regions. So we're doing nicely. Their whole range,

1809
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 3: by the way, on the farm gate price is eight

1810
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 3: to twenty five after nine seventy five, so they're a

1811
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 3: firming it. Expectations will maintain strong margins in all three

1812
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 3: of our sales channels. So things are going very nicely.

1813
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, so thank as we so often say on

1814
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 3: this program, Thank the Good Lords for the Farmers.

1815
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: Nine to nine The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar

1816
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 2: Fbase News Talk sedb.

1817
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 3: Serving away from nine, I note that Coca Cola this

1818
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 3: morning have pulled their spice flavored. Coca Cola Spiced hasn't worked,

1819
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 3: only been on the shelf six months they introduced it,

1820
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 3: while they're going to introduce another new flavor next year.

1821
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 3: They said it was spice was going to be a

1822
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 3: permanent flavor, which clearly turned out not to be true.

1823
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 3: Apparently there was a combined this is a marketing issue.

1824
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: There was a lack of awareness of the new offering,

1825
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,879
Speaker 3: so that's the marketing department's problem. There was also confumer

1826
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: confusion over the flavor because apparently it wasn't spicy. Did

1827
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 3: we ever get this here? Coca Cola spice, I've never

1828
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 3: heard of it. They've had Coca Cola dream World. Have

1829
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 3: we had dream World? Do we know co Cola Dreamworld?

1830
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 3: There's been Coca Cola Starlight and Coca Cola Bite. So

1831
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 3: all they keep doing these days, apparently, is just making

1832
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 3: up new things that seemingly don't work. Now it is

1833
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:17,959
Speaker 3: five minutes away from nine.

1834
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: Trending now with the MS Warehouse, the home of big

1835
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: brand cosmetics.

1836
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 3: Football NFL Cowboys things are problematic already. They're one for

1837
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 3: two for the season. They're not going well. They look

1838
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 3: like bollocks anyway. Dak Prescott, he's now in trouble. Dak

1839
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 3: Press costs there sixty million dollar a year.

1840
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 6: Quarterback.

1841
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 3: A fan said he wanted to jump off a cliff

1842
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 3: because of the way the Cowboys have started the season.

1843
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 3: Do you hear that said jump off if you want?

1844
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 3: It's not very cool. Jerry Jones, who owns the team

1845
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 3: and has owned the team for a hundred years, he

1846
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 3: goes on local radio station. He does a local radio

1847
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: station thing each week. And the criticism, as they've said,

1848
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: Jerry's the main problem with the organization. So Jerry goes

1849
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: on the radio this morning, goes, actually, it's fair. I

1850
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 3: accept that completely. I don't know how you could look

1851
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: at it any other way. Then into Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons,

1852
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 3: excuse me, as one of their star players. He's gone

1853
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 3: on his podcast to defend Deck.

1854
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 28: He said the same thing today to the guys, right,

1855
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 28: jump off, you're going to Burt. I have now full

1856
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 28: belief in this guy. Right, when you figure out what's

1857
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 28: wrong and people are attacking earlier, and you keep getting

1858
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 28: better and better, so then when you start going on

1859
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 28: your run, you feel invincible.

1860
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 11: Right. It's all about clicking.

1861
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 28: Right, everything's all about clicking NFL at the right time

1862
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 28: to go on your run. It's never the usually the

1863
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 28: best teams, and sometimes the best teams usually do because

1864
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 28: they're clicking at the right time. But at the end

1865
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 28: of the day, you know, that's what this journey's about.

1866
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 28: And right now, we just got to find our groove.

1867
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 28: We got to find their spot. We got to get

1868
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 28: into rhythm. That's all this is, and it's trials.

1869
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Said psychobabbem. I think that sounds like psychobabble to me. Anyway.

1870
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 3: Most people say, well, Michael, what you need to do

1871
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 3: is practice some more, because every time something goes wrong,

1872
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: that's when you hit your podcast. Stop doing the podcast

1873
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: and start doing their practice. Tell you what I watched yesterday.

1874
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 3: If you're into the NFL with the Commanders, and once

1875
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 3: upon a time when they were called the Redskins, they

1876
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 3: were like so useless, it was inconceivable how useless they were.

1877
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 3: And yet yesterday, not only were they good but they won,

1878
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 3: and they look, they look, they don't they don't look

1879
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 3: the goods. I don't want to oversell them, but they thought, geezus,

1880
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 3: tell you what, there's a pathway back. They've got their

1881
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: brew and they got the thing whatever Michael was saying.

1882
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 3: They got a bit of that going on. So so

1883
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: that's all good. Back tomorrow morning on The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

1884
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 3: Thursday Morning's edition from six There's always Happy Days, Really Dark.

1885
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 2: For more from The Mic Hosking Breakfast, listen live to

1886
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

1887
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.