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Speaker 1: So to the debate one snack poll guy. But the

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Speaker 1: Harris might be because of this sort of thing in Springfield.

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Speaker 2: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're

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Speaker 2: eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets.

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Speaker 1: It was a proct It probably didn't help the max

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Speaker 1: that went on. Now this is the possibility apparently of

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Speaker 1: another Marca Ruby as former chief of staff. Matt Terrell

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Speaker 1: is back with its Matt morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Did it move the needle? You know?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think what to see in

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Speaker 2: the polling, and I will take some time, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think this debate actually is going to make or

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Speaker 2: break this election. I don't think it moved the needle much.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there was missed opportunities by former President Trump last night.

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Speaker 2: But with that said, I'm not so sure, least to

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Speaker 2: my view, that Vice President Harris necessarily accomplished which she

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Speaker 2: need to accomplished last night. But todays are relays to

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Speaker 2: movie voters in her direction on key issues such as

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Speaker 2: the economy. You know, the economy's going to really drive

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Speaker 2: this elections and number one issue of voters care about.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the polling for President Trumpet actually

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Speaker 2: increased his favorability on that issue after the debate in

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Speaker 2: comparison to post pre debate. So, look, at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, I think this is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: race that comes down to the issues. We'll see how

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Speaker 2: that takes shape in time will tell.

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Speaker 1: How does she differentiate herself from Biden and why hasn't she.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a challenge and why she hasn't is because

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Speaker 2: it's hard to do in the sense that this has

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Speaker 2: been the Biden Harris administration. You know, look at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, she's been a second command in

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Speaker 2: this administration, and right now voters are concerned and frustrated

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Speaker 2: with where inflation is bad. You've had nearly roughly twenty

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Speaker 2: percent inflation almost over the roughly past four years that

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Speaker 2: the Biden Harris administration has been in office. You've seen

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Speaker 2: skyrocketing crossings at the border. The economy, inflation, border security

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Speaker 2: will be the top issues they're going to drive this race.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, in terms of separating herself from

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Speaker 2: the Biden administration, whence the Biden Harris administration that this

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Speaker 2: has been over the past roughly four years, that's almost

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Speaker 2: an impossible task. You saw her trying to do some

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Speaker 2: of that throughout this campaign, But voters know that she's

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Speaker 2: been in office, she's been an incumbent, and that's hard

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Speaker 2: to move off these issues, is it, Paul?

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Speaker 1: She could feel or her team could feel this morning

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Speaker 1: that she can win this thing just on good vibes

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Speaker 1: and beta Tomorrow's and all the other stuff she rolls out.

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Speaker 2: Well, Look, I think some of that works with the

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Speaker 2: political bases, namely, for example, the Democrat base. I think

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Speaker 2: they're fired up for Vice President Harris. I think the

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Speaker 2: GOP base is fired up for Foreign President Trump. I

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Speaker 2: think the political bases are going to turn out. I

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Speaker 2: think this election comes down to low propensity voters and

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Speaker 2: just those handful of independent and undecided voters. At the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, it's going to be roughly forty

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Speaker 2: five thousand voters, maybe one hundred thousand voters at the most.

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Speaker 2: They're going to decide this race. And what do they

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Speaker 2: care about. They care about the issues. They don't care

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Speaker 2: about personalities or vibes. They care about inflation, border security,

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Speaker 2: the economy, and right now, Foreign President Trump is pulling

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Speaker 2: quite well on those issues. He's actually doing better on

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Speaker 2: those issues than Vice President Harris. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, you might have voters out there saying, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I don't agree with form Persident Trump on everything.

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Speaker 2: I don't agree with every social media posts, for every

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Speaker 2: comment he made during the debate or on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 2: but I agree with them on those issues, and I

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Speaker 2: may vote for him based on those issues. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of voters may do that, but can be

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Speaker 2: up to four President Trump at the end of the

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Speaker 2: day to win them over.

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Speaker 1: Always good to have you on the product, mat appreciate

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Speaker 1: it very much. Mat Tyrell, who is Marco Rubio's former

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Speaker 1: rum chief of stuff.

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