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Speaker 1: Taku de Ferris has doubled down on his anti immigrant post.

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Speaker 1: He's posted an eight minute video rounted midnight where he

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Speaker 1: says he doesn't give a crap about what Willie Jackson thinks.

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Speaker 1: Marty seeds it for Mary only to campaign and basically

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Speaker 1: he's not sorry. Willie Jackson is head of the labor

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Speaker 1: Marty Caucus.

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Speaker 2: Hi, WILLI yeah, you to hear that, all right?

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Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the Mary party about this post.

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Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to them, but Chippy has. Chippy gave

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Speaker 2: him a call and voiced his displeasure and over apologized

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Speaker 2: and apparently apologized the game to the public. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we're pleased about that, but IM not sure what Doc's doing.

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Speaker 2: You know that we haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a punt. What do you reckon he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He's probably doubled down and doesn't want to resolve from

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Speaker 2: what he said, which is, you know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: really disappointing. I am you know, of course what was

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Speaker 2: very disappointing result in tarmaky, but I wanted to say,

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Speaker 2: and I'll say on your show because you got to

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Speaker 2: you got a big following. You know, we were humbled

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Speaker 2: by the support by from the different ethnic groups, Indians, pacifica.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's great part our people, you know, African people.

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Speaker 2: I think Doc called them black people or whatever. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I think it's great when they all come on.

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Speaker 2: They didn't come on to take over the Mauldi Sea.

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Speaker 2: They come on as fellow colleagues and Labor Party members

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Speaker 2: just to give us some support. I think that that's

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Speaker 2: humbling and I'm never We're never going to say no

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Speaker 2: to that because that's what makes up this country and

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Speaker 2: the you know, we reciprocate of helped in general electorates.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, you know, I think he's just

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Speaker 2: got the wrong end of the stick. And it's been

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Speaker 2: quite offensive.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, what is it to you that is offensive?

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Speaker 2: Oh? The calling out, the belittling of those those people,

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Speaker 2: that's what I that's what I think is is wrong,

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Speaker 2: you know, And to say, you know, basically saying you know,

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Speaker 2: you have no right to participate. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: just the Maordi scene. Yes it's a Maldi scene, but

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Speaker 2: these people want to help. And so you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're in politics, hither you take as much out as possible.

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Speaker 2: And those people were all offended. So I've apologized personally

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Speaker 2: to a number of them, and I take the opportunity

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Speaker 2: are getting to apologize today. But I mean I'm not

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Speaker 2: the one who offended them, but you know they'll be

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Speaker 2: a lot of them were taken back but shocked. Actually,

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Speaker 2: who you mean the people who are helping that's right? Yeah, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Now I'd like to know why the Maori Party has

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Speaker 1: changed their tune. I mean, up to now, they've been

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Speaker 1: pretty unapologetic for some of the pretty wacky stuff they've said.

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, in the last week they're

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Speaker 1: prepared to apologize for this kind of thing. Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you're going to have to ask them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the second time we take them

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Speaker 2: on their word, and deb and the already have been

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Speaker 2: quite very apologetic. I mean, I think you've seen it

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Speaker 2: if I saw this heroll post from Dead Pecker, and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was very good about a week ago,

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Speaker 2: and then doctor Ferris came out after that and and

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Speaker 2: sort of made it. Really you know, this is my theory.

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Speaker 1: Really, my theory is that the reason that the Maori

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Speaker 1: Party have apologized for like the first time ever is

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Speaker 1: because they realized that if they want to get into

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Speaker 1: government with you, guys are going to have to tone

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Speaker 1: this crap down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it takes a genius to

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Speaker 2: work there out, you know. I mean, that's that's just

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Speaker 2: the reality, right, we can't and those I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know you've been around a while, you know those are

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Speaker 2: the big Those are conversations we've had that I have

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Speaker 2: with them, you know, And I know the line that

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Speaker 2: you know, you and your mate the Hoskins are running.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're out of control, they're racist.

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Speaker 1: Well come on, I mean, did you watch the eight Minutes?

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Speaker 1: Does seem a little out of control and racist? U?

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Speaker 2: Well? Well yeah, but you know, I mean look at

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Speaker 2: the party. I mean I thought Seymour in the most

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Speaker 2: racist campaign in history, the National Party lux and had

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Speaker 2: no problem jumping all right. You know, Won Winston went

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Speaker 2: off as rocket during the campaign, people saying things, but

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Speaker 2: they managed to pull things or pull together when it counts.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm hoping that party Malory can get

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Speaker 2: it together and get Doc into shape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Hey, thank you very much, Willy appreciate it.

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