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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to mattin title Afternoons full podcast number

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Speaker 2: eighty eight from Monday to seventh of March twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Great chat to end up with us bearing a bunch

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Speaker 2: of weapons and gold coins under concrete now garage, just

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Speaker 2: in case the crap goes down. Also, also by the end,

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Speaker 2: our chat on fobs and digital keys ended up with

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Speaker 2: the end of the World Book of Revelations, and so

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Speaker 2: it went a long way.

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Speaker 3: And we also ask the question why don't children say

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Speaker 3: hello to their teachers anymore?

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Speaker 2: It turns out it's because we're all bad parents, all right,

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Speaker 2: I think. I think that's the takeaway. Subscribe, sit to download,

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 4: There'd be.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Welcome into Monday. Matt and Tyler with you

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Speaker 3: until four pm. Great to have your company as always.

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Speaker 3: Get a met.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler, get everyone. Fantastic weekend. Went out to

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Speaker 2: the Warriors on Friday night. Warden oh Wa to come back.

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Speaker 2: Great time in the stands.

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Speaker 3: How were the crowd? What an awesome match from the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: There would have been absolute chaos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there was people up there. They blew up

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Speaker 2: half of Penrose at the halftime fireworks for Tohu Harris, boy,

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Speaker 2: that was quite a five. I was wondering. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to check and actually did they let off all the

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Speaker 2: fireworks accidentally? Because that seemed to be a year's worth

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Speaker 2: of fireworks.

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Speaker 3: I could hear them from Mount Wellington? What hell is that?

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Speaker 3: And then I realized, oh, of course the Warrior's game,

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Speaker 2: I'm not normally impressed by a fireworks display, but that

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Speaker 2: looks like a couple of hundred thousand where the fireworks

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Speaker 2: going up there? I also had I also witnessed the

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Speaker 2: funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and it'll be honest, if I share this with you,

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Speaker 2: it might not come across in the same way as

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Speaker 2: it experienced life. But I'll give it a go. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: I was that engagement party and it was full, and

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Speaker 2: it was in this yacht club and people had flyn

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Speaker 2: from America because the boy out of the Boy and

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Speaker 2: Girl it was from Ohio. And all the speeches were

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Speaker 2: on and my good friend leehart I was standing beside him.

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Speaker 2: He had his daughter had a party back at her

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Speaker 2: his house, and so he had to get back and

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Speaker 2: the speeches were running late, but we were locked at

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Speaker 2: the back with the whole crowd, and then we're the

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Speaker 2: speeches were over by the door. The only way out, yep.

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Speaker 2: So to leave, and he had to leave would be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's going, boy, what can I do here?

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Speaker 2: And so I say to him, do you think that's

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Speaker 2: And anyone that's seen Leehart's comedy, this feels like it's

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Speaker 2: The door goes goes silent and steers at him, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did he say to you? Did he turn

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Speaker 2: In my defense, I knew that was a cupboard. Stched

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Speaker 3: But he was in a no win predicament and you

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Speaker 2: He just had to let his daughter's party, you know,

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Speaker 2: roll roll at home. Well, the speeches went through, beautiful speeches.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic engagement party ruined by someone needs to get some

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Speaker 3: That's a great story. Right on to today's show. After

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Speaker 3: three o'clock, we want to have a chat about digital

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Speaker 3: car keys. They're becoming more common, often offering convenience by

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Speaker 3: allowing drivers to unlock and start their cars with a smartphone.

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Speaker 3: But there are big questions around how safe they are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this question is around the safety of

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Speaker 2: it and go away. So I want everything on my phone.

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Speaker 2: I want an app plus you've just gone through this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unreal, just for my we fob, my we electric

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Speaker 3: fob is if that's what you call it, seven hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: So why are they that expensive? Why is it seven

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Speaker 2: with an app on your phone? If if it's seven

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something I still don't like about the old

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Speaker 3: putting a physical key into a car, turning it, getting

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel right. No, no, no, yeah, what

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Speaker 3: There's one that's the batteries obviously died and clearly. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a good chat after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock. Narrow Escapes. This is on the back

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Speaker 3: of a couple who had a very narrow escape in

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Speaker 2: This is a fantastic story. Basically, you're in bed I

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Speaker 2: Then a car flies through the bedroom window, pins his

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Speaker 2: just smashes through the front of your house. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Do we know how it happened. I've read the first

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Speaker 2: How the hell he's made a hell of a mess.

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Speaker 2: impressive crash, but you know, just literally millimeters away from death.

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Speaker 3: Unreal story. But the question will put to you after

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Speaker 3: two o'clock as we want to hear your narrow escapes.

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Speaker 3: What happened where you just got out of it alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a car crash to the front of

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Speaker 2: and smashed up your mailbox. I was like, nah, it's

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Speaker 3: Did they not even knock on your door?

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Speaker 2: They crashed into it, reversed and drove off and left

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so narrow escapes right now, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's have a chat about what you should be

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Speaker 3: teaching your children before they go to school. It was

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Speaker 3: Greg boot Bruce but quoting an anonymous teacher, but a

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Speaker 2: Yes, so kids don't know when they arrive at school.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about primary school. They don't know what to

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Speaker 2: deal with it. These basics aren't being taught to kids

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Speaker 2: fact that the kids have been so moody coddled to

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Speaker 2: use an old fashioned word in their first five years

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Speaker 2: of the life, that they can't do anything parents. It's

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Speaker 2: when good parenting becomes bad. What you think is good

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Speaker 2: parenting is doing everything for them, tying their shoelacers, putting

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Speaker 2: unaidable to function when they get to school. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: that is that that becomes bad, That becomes bad teaching.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, I know they've started off this comment. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they started off off this column saying parents

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Speaker 3: kind of hate that word because it was overused. But

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Speaker 3: that is a big thing that, as you say, if

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Speaker 3: they don't have these social skills, if they don't know

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Speaker 3: going to really struggle by that time they get to school,

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Speaker 3: and teachers do not have the time, or the resource

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Speaker 3: They are there to teach them the basics of reading, maths.

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Speaker 2: And writing. As this synonymous teacher said, so in a way,

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Speaker 2: parents are to blame because we're not giving kids the

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Speaker 2: they've got a relationship problem, we jump in if they

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Speaker 2: want to know what's happening. You should get them to

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Speaker 2: ride their bike, go on monkey bars, playgrams, climb trees,

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Speaker 8: Well, what happens is that I've got a punk business here,

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Speaker 3: And that's respectful. I don't think you can call them

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Speaker 1: One digging into the issues that affect you on my asking.

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Speaker 11: They're well prepared because we've had probably now over a

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Speaker 10: and he's got experience with Trump. Of course he said

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is twenty nine past one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So we're talking about a teacher who Greg Bruce

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Speaker 2: dress themselves, carry their own school bag, hold a pencil,

437
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Speaker 2: punt know they're punt of there like a decent boot

438
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Speaker 2: down field. If they could kick you know that that

439
00:20:05,173 --> 00:20:09,733
Speaker 2: might be a spell check. There, their alphabet, colors, etcetera.

440
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Speaker 2: Can greet each other, say please and thank you, share

441
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Speaker 2: toys and equipment. My own kids made their own lunches

442
00:20:14,933 --> 00:20:18,293
Speaker 2: at five years old, albeit with supervision. This is basic stuff.

443
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Speaker 2: That's from Dave. Thank you so much.

444
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Speaker 3: Good text. Oh one hundred and eighty eighty is the

445
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Speaker 3: number to call.

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Speaker 2: This text is on the other side of the event,

447
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Speaker 2: saying this is classic. We paid teachers to do that.

448
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Speaker 2: Now we're expected to prep our kids for school. Just

449
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Speaker 2: do your job, teachers and shut up. Yeah, I mean

450
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Speaker 2: it's your they're your kids, so you probably should take

451
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Speaker 2: some responsibility for them. Joe, your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, guys, I'm a recent adult this court.

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Speaker 12: I'm twenty eight and I've been listening to you guys

454
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Speaker 12: talk about sort of the way to address other adults

455
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Speaker 12: and also the role.

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Speaker 9: That parents played birth teachers. You know, honestly, I think

457
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Speaker 9: it's a fine line.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. I think that.

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Speaker 9: As as history dictates, not every single adult is one

460
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Speaker 9: who should be trusted. And you know, I think that

461
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Speaker 9: there is a fine line there between.

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Speaker 14: A blind trust in an adult or someone who's an

463
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Speaker 14: elder and and sort of being taught to be cautious

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Speaker 14: around those things. I would, I wholeheartedly agree that that

465
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Speaker 14: parents need to be the ones to instill the positive

466
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Speaker 14: practices in their kids. I mean, similar to other texts

467
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Speaker 14: and callers you've had. I mean, my mum in particular,

468
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Speaker 14: you know, taught us from a young age that that

469
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Speaker 14: where you needed to make our own lunches and needed

470
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Speaker 14: to be polite.

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Speaker 12: And you know, you say please and thank you and

472
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Speaker 12: and all of that sort of thing. But I think

473
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Speaker 12: as it pertains to teachers, there needs to be some

474
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Speaker 12: caution taken there, and history certainly certainly suggests that what

475
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Speaker 12: do you mean, I went, well, I went to a

476
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Speaker 12: private school that I'm not going to name that that's

477
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Speaker 12: had some issues around teachers getting in trouble for.

478
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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, things that we all know things that

479
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Speaker 2: we all know about.

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Speaker 12: And I think that that's partly born out of this

481
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Speaker 12: blind trust and authority figures. And I think that that

482
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Speaker 12: what really needs to be taught at a young age

483
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Speaker 12: is that you need to be respectful, but you need

484
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Speaker 12: to be careful. And I also, as a side note,

485
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Speaker 12: find the sentiment of calling another friends parents by by

486
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Speaker 12: sir or ma'am massively updated. I think it's hugely important to.

487
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Speaker 9: Me to be fair.

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Speaker 2: Joe Nolan suggested to be fair, Joe no one it

489
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Speaker 2: all suggested calling them sir or ma'am. All I was

490
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Speaker 2: saying was that when I was a kid, you knew

491
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Speaker 2: that you went round a friend's house, you'd call them

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Speaker 2: by their last their parent, mister Adams or missus Adams,

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Speaker 2: miss Adams or whatever, and and and that was just

494
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Speaker 2: what you knew. I wasn't making a judgment call on

495
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Speaker 2: I say, it was very easy. You'd go and say

496
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Speaker 2: thank you mister Adams for dropping me off or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think it's probably out the window.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 12: I agree, and and right, I see, yeah, I see

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Speaker 12: what you're saying. But yeah, no, I think I think

501
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Speaker 12: that just these days and I think times, you know,

502
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Speaker 12: times obviously changed and not the most positive ablaze. And

503
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Speaker 12: there's there's stuff that's coming to life or has come

504
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Speaker 12: to light over the past let's say decade, But would

505
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Speaker 12: indicate that not every authority figure is someone to put

506
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Speaker 12: your your trust in. H But but on a on

507
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Speaker 12: a fundamental level, I do believe that it's the parents

508
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Speaker 12: responsibility and not that of teachers to be instilling sort

509
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Speaker 12: of values and and you know, going forward in life,

510
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Speaker 12: once you finish school, you spend a lot of time,

511
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Speaker 12: you know, interacting with your parents and using them as

512
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Speaker 12: your sort of litmus test or your your point of reference.

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Speaker 9: So you're not your past teachers.

514
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Speaker 12: So you know, teachers are really there to in my mind,

515
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Speaker 12: to facilitate learning and to facilitate you know, furthering. You're

516
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Speaker 12: getting to a point you want to be at in

517
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Speaker 12: your career, let's say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you know, you say that

519
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Speaker 2: you know you shouldn't trust everyone, but I mean that's

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Speaker 2: a big step down the path from sending kids to

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Speaker 2: school that can't do their shoelacers or even talk to

522
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Speaker 2: other kids, you know, and I think, you know, most

523
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Speaker 2: primary school teachers are pretty trustworthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Joe, and get your point on. I

525
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Speaker 3: think everybody could you know, could could see what you

526
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Speaker 3: were implying there on a particular school with the New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: But that's I mean, there's definitely terrible, terrible things have happened,

528
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Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. But I don't think it

529
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Speaker 2: changes the fact that you should make your kids competent

530
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Speaker 2: to be able to deal worth going to just dealing

531
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Speaker 2: with other humans before they go to school.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Joe, thank you very much for your core. Really appreciated.

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Speaker 13: It is.

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Speaker 2: Oh goodness.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five to two.

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Speaker 15: You talk Sibby headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's no

537
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Speaker 15: trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 16: Police and Wellington are asking for information after a home

539
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Speaker 16: invasion in Mirama's Darlington Road about two am and another

540
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Speaker 16: person being found wounded about two thirty am. Police so

541
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Speaker 16: that's possible the suspect entered other properties worries about police

542
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Speaker 16: pursuits after a fleeing driver collided with two other cars

543
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Speaker 16: in Auckland's Penrose yesterday, killing a member of the public

544
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Speaker 16: revealed today to be a Filipino immigrant. The driver and

545
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Speaker 16: another person were also critically injured. Job ads mentioning options

546
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Speaker 16: to work from home are dropping, picking at ten point

547
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Speaker 16: three percent in September twenty twenty three, falling to seven

548
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Speaker 16: point five last December. A new twelve bed high dependency

549
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Speaker 16: the unit has opened at Wellington Regional Hospital. Greater Wellington

550
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Speaker 16: Regional Council says a ten to eighty drop over water

551
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Speaker 16: reservoir areas does not pose a public risk. First Union

552
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Speaker 16: has officially become Workers First Union or Workers First. Radical

553
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Speaker 16: disruption is not the answer in zedmechair on Billionaires board

554
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Speaker 16: clean out bid. You can see more at Enzen Herald Premium.

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Speaker 16: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty one two

557
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Speaker 3: two and we're asking the question what skills do you

558
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Speaker 3: need to teach your kids before they go to school?

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Speaker 3: In terms of social skills. It's on the back of

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Speaker 3: a piece in the New Zealand Herald a quoting an

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Speaker 3: anonymous teacher who says that kids don't know what to

562
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Speaker 3: do if something goes wrong, they fall over and hurt themselves.

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Speaker 3: They don't know how to get back up and do

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Speaker 3: it all again. And there's a lot of social skills

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Speaker 3: that the teachers themselves are having to teach these kids.

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Speaker 2: Is a text. Hi guys, Jenny here, I really need

567
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Speaker 2: five year olds to be able to blow their noses,

568
00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:09,053
Speaker 2: unpack and open the contents of their lunch. They should

569
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Speaker 2: be able to ask or indicate that they would need

570
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Speaker 2: to go to the toilet. Cheers, good topic today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean those are the basics. If you're sending your

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Speaker 2: kids to school, then they can't do that. And you know,

573
00:27:19,613 --> 00:27:20,893
Speaker 2: a lot of these things are coming through with the

574
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,653
Speaker 2: kids don't know how to use the bathroom. And according

575
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Speaker 2: to this teacher here in this honest one, it says,

576
00:27:27,173 --> 00:27:29,493
Speaker 2: don't jump in and fix everything as a parent. They

577
00:27:29,573 --> 00:27:32,653
Speaker 2: need to they then they're learning nothing. So if you're

578
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Speaker 2: running the entire toilet operation yourself and their kid when

579
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Speaker 2: they go to school. I heard when my kids were

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Speaker 2: at school, there was a parent that asked to be

581
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Speaker 2: wrung if their kid need to go to the bathroom

582
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Speaker 2: so they could rush in and do it for them

583
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Speaker 2: with them. That's this is like a six year old kid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, dad, is insane? Come on, come on,

585
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Speaker 3: they will be okay.

586
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean just on there.

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Speaker 3: At what age would you be wanting to teach your

588
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Speaker 3: child to just go and sort that out themselves. If

589
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Speaker 3: they get into trouble when they go into the toilet.

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Speaker 3: Obviously there are people around that can help with that.

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Speaker 3: But what age would you say you go and do

592
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Speaker 3: it yourself.

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Speaker 2: Well, I sometimes get into trouble in the toilet myself.

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Speaker 2: At the same now I think about it, my accuracy

595
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Speaker 2: isn't what it could be. Oh, one hundred eighty ten

596
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Speaker 2: eighty is the number to call, Tanya. How are you

597
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Speaker 2: this afternoon?

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Speaker 3: I'm thank you, nice to chat. So what's your thoughts

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Speaker 3: about this?

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Speaker 17: I mean, there's many things that I think was the

601
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Speaker 17: important for them to learn before school, but one of

602
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Speaker 17: them I found with my children. I mean, there was

603
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Speaker 17: one year where there was I didn't have many Christmas

604
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Speaker 17: presents for the kids. So I found this letter online

605
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Speaker 17: from someone called Harry Brown, and he pretty much wrote

606
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Speaker 17: a letter to his daughter when they were poor one year,

607
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Speaker 17: and he thought that it was the best guest we

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Speaker 17: could possibly give, which was nobody owes you anything, and

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Speaker 17: if people, if you know a lot of adults don't

610
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Speaker 17: even understand that, but if stated it would be it

611
00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:57,133
Speaker 17: would just benefit their life so much because then they

612
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Speaker 17: wouldn't be expecting anything to give into them, and it's

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Speaker 17: something that you know, if you're given something, it's because

614
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Speaker 17: there's something that you've done that you've earned, or you

615
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Speaker 17: know you've the person has given you something because you've

616
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Speaker 17: done something for them that in order for them truth,

617
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Speaker 17: you know, given you something nicely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, that's really good advice. But if a

619
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Speaker 2: kid's going to school, so you want to get into

620
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Speaker 2: their head. So we're talking at a five year old card.

621
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Speaker 2: No one owes you anything, but you also need to

622
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Speaker 2: get into the head ask for help. Right, So it's not.

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Speaker 17: I mean, no one owes you anything, so but they

624
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Speaker 17: I mean asking for help. There's the difference between.

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Speaker 2: That, and so you have to get that nuance. You'd

626
00:29:38,253 --> 00:29:39,573
Speaker 2: have to get that nuance to them. Like no one

627
00:29:39,613 --> 00:29:41,413
Speaker 2: owes you anything. If someone does something for you, that

628
00:29:41,573 --> 00:29:43,773
Speaker 2: means that that you know, you should be grateful and

629
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Speaker 2: you know you've got to try and work out your

630
00:29:45,453 --> 00:29:48,093
Speaker 2: own your own your own path and stuff. But also

631
00:29:48,933 --> 00:29:50,413
Speaker 2: if you're in trouble, ask for help.

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Speaker 17: You know, yes, that's right. And plus I mean if

633
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Speaker 17: they knew that, then they don't owe them like other

634
00:29:56,053 --> 00:30:02,893
Speaker 17: people don't owe you kindness or anything like that because

635
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Speaker 17: it's a few Okay, the best My best option is

636
00:30:05,933 --> 00:30:10,493
Speaker 17: to if you can find that letter online and then

637
00:30:10,613 --> 00:30:12,693
Speaker 17: read it, and then you're going to understand what I'm

638
00:30:12,733 --> 00:30:13,213
Speaker 17: talking about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So do you know who it was? By it?

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Speaker 2: So you say, Harry Brown, Harry Brown, Yeah, Harry Brown letter. Okay,

641
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Speaker 2: a letter to day, A ninety sixty six letter to Dora,

642
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Speaker 2: Harry Brown letter to daughter. Here we go, it's coming

643
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Speaker 2: up one second enz Me media organization with a very

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Speaker 2: slow internet.

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Speaker 3: It is a rather large letter.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so you might have to break it down.

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Speaker 3: It's right. Can I just pack up on the no

648
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Speaker 3: one owes you anything part, So no one owes you anything.

649
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Speaker 3: You owe it to yourself to be the best person possible,

650
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Speaker 3: because if you are, others will want to be with you,

651
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:49,853
Speaker 3: want to provide you with the things you want in

652
00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:52,933
Speaker 3: exchange for what you were giving to them. Some people

653
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Speaker 3: will choose not to be with you for reasons that

654
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Speaker 3: have nothing to do with you. When that happens, look

655
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Speaker 3: elsewhere for the relationships you want. Don't make someone else's

656
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Speaker 3: problem your problem. Once you learn that you must earn

657
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Speaker 3: the love and respect of others, you'll never expect the

658
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Speaker 3: impossible and you won't be disappointed that others don't have

659
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Speaker 3: to share their property with you, nor their feelings or thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Very deep, yes it is.

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Speaker 17: But I just think some of the words that are

662
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Speaker 17: quite profound, and I think if a lot of people

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Speaker 17: learned that, honestly, they would make more of an effort

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Speaker 17: in life because they're not expecting people to come in

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Speaker 17: and save them as such.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I think what they do in life.

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Speaker 17: They work for basically. A lot of people in your

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Speaker 17: zin don't seem to know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look essentially, I'm just reading it now. It's

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Speaker 2: very good. So google that if you want to read that.

671
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Speaker 2: Harry Brown, that's with a Browne and you just put

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Speaker 2: that in Harry Brown Letter to Daughter and it's readily

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Speaker 2: available online. So give that a read. Thank you so much, Dania,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. O.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: There's some great texts coming through on nine to nine two.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to some of those very shortly. It is

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Speaker 3: sixteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Come a chat with the lads on eighty Matt and

680
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Speaker 1: Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety ticking every box

681
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Speaker 1: a seamless experience of weeds news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be it is thirteen to two. Having a great

683
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Speaker 3: discussion about what school skills to teach your children before

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Speaker 3: they go to school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of kids are going to school

686
00:32:26,773 --> 00:32:29,613
Speaker 2: and before you can even teach them math or how

687
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Speaker 2: to read, they don't even know how to go to

688
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Speaker 2: the toilet yet. Here's a current principal Senter text through

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Speaker 2: on nine two nine two. Here is my list manners

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Speaker 2: respecting elders, holding doors, acknowledging each other, how to take

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Speaker 2: turns and share, how to lose a bit of humility,

692
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Speaker 2: being a risk taker in their learning, resilience, self management

693
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Speaker 2: e g. Bags, lots more. But this was a good start. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: being a great list as a bunch of teachers are

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Speaker 2: been texting, would be really helpful if they could just

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Speaker 2: manage their own lunch box and their own lunch and

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Speaker 2: their own shoes, yeah, you know, and their own bag.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't talked to your kids how to do

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Speaker 2: that by the time they go to school, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's ands. Kids are quite happy about that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: They love to use tupperwar and bags and such. Getting

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Speaker 2: them to I think it's a cop out when kids

703
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Speaker 2: are given those valcrow shoes instead of learning how to

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Speaker 2: tie their shoelaces. And look, I got told off by grandparents,

705
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Speaker 2: as I said before, for this just being in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: So you do everything for your kids just to get

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Speaker 2: them out the door because you just want to go,

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Speaker 2: go go, and you go, I can't wait. Well, you

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Speaker 2: learn how to do that, but you have to do us.

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Speaker 2: You're not really you're not really teaching them.

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Speaker 3: No, that was me when I started sky the Valcrow shoes.

712
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Speaker 3: But I was shamed by my friends.

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Speaker 4: Weak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friends at five years old, of five years old,

715
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Speaker 3: and I remember this vividly laughed at me saying, do

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Speaker 3: you don't know how to tie your shoes? But then

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Speaker 3: they taught me, and I remember that vividly. Is just

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Speaker 3: like when I nailed how to tie my own shoes.

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Speaker 3: It's like, man, that was a good feeling.

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Speaker 2: Did you go for the two bunny years?

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Speaker 3: Two bunny years?

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Speaker 2: Tried and true? Greg? Your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 4: Greg?

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Speaker 2: Greg from Hamilton, Greg, we know you're there somewhere.

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Speaker 13: I don't know that.

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Speaker 18: I don't know what and there teach them from principal.

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Speaker 18: We've got a ringing up saying that into them skills

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Speaker 18: like being able to go to the toilet and manage

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Speaker 18: your lance box and things. You don't wonder why the

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Speaker 18: education system stuff when half the kids are going to

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Speaker 18: school and that's what they have to teach them before

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Speaker 18: they even get onto teaching stuff. So that's one skill

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Speaker 18: that definitely should be torn at home by the appearance.

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Speaker 18: But for me, there's a couple of things that I

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Speaker 18: think is absolutely necessary. But nobody ever doesn't. We need

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Speaker 18: to teach their kids how to keep left when they're

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Speaker 18: walking on the footpath.

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Speaker 2: I'm big on this. This is such a good point,

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Speaker 2: Greg and Tea.

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Speaker 18: If they're riding your bike, to keep lyft, now that's

741
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Speaker 18: their life. Still that little plants say it's over to

742
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Speaker 18: when they get in the car and they've how to

743
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Speaker 18: keep lyft, and you might find that all the road

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Speaker 18: rage of people driving on motorways will change when people

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Speaker 18: are taught and you don't teach them to re age.

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Speaker 18: And I've written to the ministers about this, but no

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Speaker 18: one seems to think it's even a jew But I

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Speaker 18: actually think it's very important. If you're walking down a

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Speaker 18: footbaths and you guys have done this anytimes and you

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Speaker 18: move to the left, you're a little bit older, and

751
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Speaker 18: the piston doesn't move. They don't have a clue where

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Speaker 18: they should be standing or what way should be going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh look, I get this all the time, Greg,

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Speaker 2: because I'm a runner, and I'll be out running and

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Speaker 2: I stay right to the left on the pavement and

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Speaker 2: there will the room for other people. But then you

757
00:35:35,493 --> 00:35:39,013
Speaker 2: get a bunch of people, and sometimes they'll be tourists,

758
00:35:39,053 --> 00:35:41,933
Speaker 2: so they don't know, and they're from a right side

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Speaker 2: of the road country right, and it's just the whole

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Speaker 2: system doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But then then you see a bunch of kids. You

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Speaker 2: see a bunch of people, parents walking their kids, and

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Speaker 2: they're on the wrong side, and you go, this is

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Speaker 2: a basic. This is basic for things to work. The pace.

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Speaker 2: I'm going the pace, I run, get out, get out

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Speaker 2: of my way. I'm hugging the left, and you better

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Speaker 2: do the same, or else we're going to have a problem.

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Speaker 3: Slight skiing downhill, when someone's wedging and they getting right

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Speaker 3: in your way, just pick alane, pick a lane and

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Speaker 3: the lane is left and otherwise Matt's going to mow

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Speaker 3: you down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ye, within my rights. So many texts coming through

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Speaker 2: here on nine two nine two. I have five children,

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Speaker 2: and I feel I am my children's primary teacher instill

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Speaker 2: in culture, values, responsibilities, independence, resilience, social interaction, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: I see schools as an extension who are there to

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Speaker 2: teach a curriculum and allowing children the space to learn

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Speaker 2: and expand interests. In saying that I do begrudge others

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Speaker 2: who do not live by my I do or I

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Speaker 2: don't begrudge, I do not grudge. I like the idea

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Speaker 2: of saying I do begrudge others who do not live

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Speaker 2: by my philosophy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean you can't go around begrudging all the time.

786
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Speaker 2: You'll be a miserable person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that is trvery big of that tag sting.

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Speaker 2: But I think that the key with this great article

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Speaker 2: from Greg Bruce in The Herald is this teacher is

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Speaker 2: saying that the not getting their kids ready for school

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Speaker 2: doesn't come from a place of neglect. It's the opposite

792
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Speaker 2: that teachers that parents think that if they help their

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00:37:10,653 --> 00:37:12,973
Speaker 2: kids do everything, and they're on their kids all the time,

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Speaker 2: and they're interrupting all the possible bad interactions with other

795
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Speaker 2: kids and they're sorting out all the problems and moving

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Speaker 2: the risks from their life. They're being good parents. But

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Speaker 2: what actually happens, as this teacher says, the parents are

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Speaker 2: to blame when they behave that because the kids are

799
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Speaker 2: not giving They're not giving the kids the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: develop or fail. So you think you're being a good

801
00:37:33,173 --> 00:37:35,933
Speaker 2: parent by being incredibly protective and doing everything for them,

802
00:37:36,253 --> 00:37:39,493
Speaker 2: but you're actually not making them capable of actually learning

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Speaker 2: when they start school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call? What school should you be teaching your

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Speaker 3: kids before they go to school? Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is

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Speaker 3: eight to two.

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Speaker 1: Mattith Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo

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Speaker 1: xc N eighty ticking every box a seamless experience awaits

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Speaker 1: news Talks.

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Speaker 3: V news Talks. We are going to carry this on

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock. It's been a great discussion and so

815
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Speaker 3: many people want to have a chat about it, but

816
00:38:13,293 --> 00:38:15,973
Speaker 3: some great teachs coming through. On nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: The overly involved parent who does everything for their kids

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Speaker 2: is called the helicopter parent. Essentially, you're restricting your kids

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Speaker 2: and limiting their growth by not giving them the opportunities

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Speaker 2: to do things themselves. Yeah, we're trying to avoid that

821
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Speaker 2: because it's kind of a cliche. And also I had

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Speaker 2: a trouble with the tense and I started calling it helicopterary.

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Speaker 3: Right, oh, okay, I got you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to be ale would be the you're being

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Speaker 2: too helicopterary? What would be the future? That one didn't

826
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Speaker 2: sound good, so I shied away from that word, you know,

827
00:38:45,893 --> 00:38:48,413
Speaker 2: but yeah, it is. And that's exactly what the teacher

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Speaker 2: is saying, because by not letting your kids fail up

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Speaker 2: to five, then they don't learn any lessons for sure,

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Speaker 2: and they just expect parents to be there to solve

831
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Speaker 2: the problem. My six year old has had a little

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Speaker 2: difficulty with reading this year. However, a job in her

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Speaker 2: class is answering the classroom phone. Well, it would be

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Speaker 2: great if she wasn't struggling with the reading. I consider

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Speaker 2: a massive wind. She knows how to confidently answer the phone.

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Speaker 3: That's huge. Yeah, yeah, and good on there, teacher for

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Speaker 3: making that part of the skills that if a child

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Speaker 3: is lacking confidence in one area to say, you were

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Speaker 3: now in charge of answering the classroom phone. That is massive.

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Speaker 2: So what should you teach your kids before they start

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Speaker 2: primary school? O. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine

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Speaker 2: ninety two. If you want to text us, we're going

843
00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:27,333
Speaker 2: to keep this going because we've got so much coming

844
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Speaker 2: through the system.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely new sport and weather on its way. It

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Speaker 3: is four minutes to too great to have your company.

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Speaker 3: As always, you're listening to Matt and Tyler. I hope

848
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Speaker 3: you're having a great Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: After that you well much.

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Speaker 5: So, then we go.

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Speaker 8: Be seeing for two.

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Speaker 4: Before they can.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety used talk said.

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Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the shows.

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Speaker 3: Heaven passed two and having a great discussion about what

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Speaker 3: skills you should be teaching your children before they go

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Speaker 3: to school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. This from an article by Greg Bruce

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Speaker 2: where he talked to a teacher anonymously, and she had

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Speaker 2: this to say. Kids don't know what to do if

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Speaker 2: something goes wrong. When they start school. If they fall

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Speaker 2: over and hurt themselves, they don't know how to get

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Speaker 2: back up and do it again. If someone says I

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Speaker 2: don't want to play with you today, they don't know

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Speaker 2: how to deal with it. She went on to say,

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Speaker 2: they don't need to learn how to read, write, any

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Speaker 2: of those things before they come to school, but they

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Speaker 2: need the life skills of how to put their own

870
00:40:54,373 --> 00:40:57,133
Speaker 2: clothes on, how to get themselves ready for swimming, how

871
00:40:57,173 --> 00:41:01,733
Speaker 2: to say hello to somebody, those little skills. That sounds ridiculous,

872
00:41:01,773 --> 00:41:03,093
Speaker 2: but a lot of kids don't even know how to

873
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:05,893
Speaker 2: say hello to someone, to an adult. The little skills

874
00:41:05,933 --> 00:41:08,173
Speaker 2: that our kids twenty five years ago is used to have,

875
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:11,173
Speaker 2: many of our kids today don't have them. When a

876
00:41:11,293 --> 00:41:14,053
Speaker 2: child starts skill, instead of starting reading and writing, we're

877
00:41:14,093 --> 00:41:16,213
Speaker 2: actually teaching them how to put their shoes on, how

878
00:41:16,253 --> 00:41:18,893
Speaker 2: to tie their shoelaceers, what their name looks like, how

879
00:41:18,933 --> 00:41:21,652
Speaker 2: to say hello, how to even hold a pencil because

880
00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:24,333
Speaker 2: they've only ever used iPads before, so we're teaching them

881
00:41:24,373 --> 00:41:27,533
Speaker 2: the basics before we even get to literacy. And she

882
00:41:27,653 --> 00:41:30,173
Speaker 2: says that the parents are to blame because we're not

883
00:41:30,213 --> 00:41:33,093
Speaker 2: giving the children the opportunity to develop or fail. We

884
00:41:33,213 --> 00:41:35,853
Speaker 2: jump in. If they've got a relationship problem, we jump

885
00:41:35,933 --> 00:41:37,973
Speaker 2: them if they did something wrong, or you rush into

886
00:41:38,053 --> 00:41:41,453
Speaker 2: the teacher and want to know what happens when the

887
00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:43,453
Speaker 2: kids aren't learning? They go, well, what's the it's the

888
00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:44,093
Speaker 2: teachers fault?

889
00:41:44,853 --> 00:41:48,013
Speaker 3: Oh weight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

890
00:41:48,093 --> 00:41:51,213
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.

891
00:41:51,613 --> 00:41:53,573
Speaker 3: Just before we go back to the phone calls. Got

892
00:41:53,613 --> 00:41:56,893
Speaker 3: a great email from Wayne, says, afternoon to both of you.

893
00:41:57,053 --> 00:41:59,613
Speaker 3: Great show, and really he sent us a bit earlier.

894
00:41:59,653 --> 00:42:02,053
Speaker 3: Look forward to the discussion around this. Interesting to know

895
00:42:02,133 --> 00:42:03,133
Speaker 3: who chia. Thank you Wayne.

896
00:42:03,213 --> 00:42:03,733
Speaker 2: Thanks Wayne.

897
00:42:03,853 --> 00:42:06,453
Speaker 3: Interesting to note that all children entering the school system

898
00:42:06,493 --> 00:42:09,093
Speaker 3: this year are all part of the COVID generation. They've

899
00:42:09,133 --> 00:42:11,413
Speaker 3: grown up with their families entering lockdown with all the

900
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:14,973
Speaker 3: uncertainty that brought about. There's an argument that says with

901
00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:18,453
Speaker 3: movement restrictions in place, families had more time to spend

902
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:20,933
Speaker 3: in each other's company, focusing on each other and spending

903
00:42:21,013 --> 00:42:23,773
Speaker 3: quality time together. However, it is also a time of

904
00:42:23,853 --> 00:42:27,813
Speaker 3: great unknowns, increased stress and for many financial uncertainty, etc.

905
00:42:28,213 --> 00:42:30,333
Speaker 3: It would be interesting for a study similar to the

906
00:42:30,493 --> 00:42:34,213
Speaker 3: Dunedin initiative to follow this cohort through their school careers.

907
00:42:34,253 --> 00:42:36,293
Speaker 3: In the UK, where I taught for a number of years,

908
00:42:36,573 --> 00:42:40,293
Speaker 3: all new entrants were assessed using baseline assessment. This meant

909
00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:43,853
Speaker 3: that their progress was measured from their actual starting points.

910
00:42:43,893 --> 00:42:47,093
Speaker 3: Some children who met or acceeded expectations may have begun

911
00:42:47,253 --> 00:42:50,573
Speaker 3: at a higher level. I guess I'm really saying that

912
00:42:50,773 --> 00:42:53,293
Speaker 3: unless we look beyond initial information, it's difficult to know

913
00:42:53,373 --> 00:42:55,773
Speaker 3: what's really behind this. But it is a good email.

914
00:42:55,813 --> 00:42:58,173
Speaker 3: When he talks about the COVID generation.

915
00:42:58,093 --> 00:43:00,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is interesting, and in this article here that

916
00:43:01,093 --> 00:43:03,573
Speaker 2: the teacher says when COVID hit and we were all

917
00:43:03,653 --> 00:43:08,732
Speaker 2: doing online learning, the weightless for pedriat pediatric assessment went

918
00:43:08,813 --> 00:43:11,213
Speaker 2: from literally six months to two years because all the

919
00:43:11,293 --> 00:43:13,853
Speaker 2: parents were homeschool and going, oh my god, my kid

920
00:43:13,893 --> 00:43:17,853
Speaker 2: can't do anything, and basically saying that the parents expect

921
00:43:17,893 --> 00:43:20,973
Speaker 2: the kids to the teachers to solve all their kids

922
00:43:21,053 --> 00:43:23,373
Speaker 2: problems from when they're five, and when they saw them

923
00:43:23,373 --> 00:43:25,373
Speaker 2: at home, they're like, oh my god, my kid.

924
00:43:25,573 --> 00:43:27,333
Speaker 3: Oh no, that is dali.

925
00:43:28,133 --> 00:43:31,772
Speaker 2: Oh no, So what should you teach your kids before

926
00:43:31,813 --> 00:43:34,733
Speaker 2: they start primary school? That's what we're talking about. And

927
00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:38,813
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number. Paul,

928
00:43:38,933 --> 00:43:39,652
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

929
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:44,373
Speaker 19: Hey mate, Hey, you know, I was just listening to

930
00:43:44,453 --> 00:43:48,333
Speaker 19: you about all of it, and it's my wife is

931
00:43:48,373 --> 00:43:52,493
Speaker 19: a child to a kindergarten teacher, and she's worked in

932
00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:58,573
Speaker 19: childiers before a few other child and I think, I

933
00:43:58,613 --> 00:44:01,493
Speaker 19: don't know for a fact, but in her line and

934
00:44:01,613 --> 00:44:04,213
Speaker 19: her view, in her point of view, a lot a

935
00:44:04,293 --> 00:44:07,533
Speaker 19: lot of mothers tend to and a lot of fathers

936
00:44:07,693 --> 00:44:11,413
Speaker 19: tend to rely on school teachers from the age of

937
00:44:11,613 --> 00:44:16,053
Speaker 19: three or two to when they're going into childcare. You know,

938
00:44:16,133 --> 00:44:19,413
Speaker 19: they relied on to teach them those skills of of

939
00:44:19,653 --> 00:44:22,133
Speaker 19: of getting up and doing your lunch and you know,

940
00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,613
Speaker 19: just the little things of walking off to the toilet

941
00:44:24,653 --> 00:44:27,853
Speaker 19: and stuff like that. Now, when I when I spoke

942
00:44:27,893 --> 00:44:30,413
Speaker 19: to my wife about my daughter not being able to

943
00:44:30,453 --> 00:44:32,173
Speaker 19: do that, and she's been with my wife for a

944
00:44:32,253 --> 00:44:36,493
Speaker 19: long time, right from pre school too to primary school. Now,

945
00:44:37,813 --> 00:44:39,773
Speaker 19: her thing was, we don't let the kids walk in

946
00:44:39,853 --> 00:44:42,973
Speaker 19: their Bible selves, and we watch them do everything. They

947
00:44:43,053 --> 00:44:46,013
Speaker 19: do things for the soelves, but they get watched doing everything.

948
00:44:46,653 --> 00:44:49,853
Speaker 19: Right in primary school, I noticed that my daughter had

949
00:44:50,213 --> 00:44:53,773
Speaker 19: weed her pants like the first week and it was

950
00:44:53,893 --> 00:44:58,013
Speaker 19: because she got outside the classroom and was scared because

951
00:44:58,013 --> 00:44:59,893
Speaker 19: she said, no one was following me to the bar.

952
00:45:03,293 --> 00:45:04,493
Speaker 19: And another thing is I think.

953
00:45:05,053 --> 00:45:06,973
Speaker 2: What's the lodge? You know what the logic is from

954
00:45:07,253 --> 00:45:10,093
Speaker 2: from following them and into the bathroom. Is it just

955
00:45:10,173 --> 00:45:12,293
Speaker 2: because they're concerned they're going to make a mess?

956
00:45:13,253 --> 00:45:17,533
Speaker 19: Well, because rat kids to feel safe, right and bathrooms

957
00:45:17,573 --> 00:45:19,333
Speaker 19: and stuff like that. If the kids at the park

958
00:45:19,453 --> 00:45:21,293
Speaker 19: or something like that, they shouldn't feel the need to

959
00:45:21,333 --> 00:45:23,613
Speaker 19: go bathroom by themselves and start to run or something

960
00:45:23,693 --> 00:45:25,893
Speaker 19: like that. It's a life school that they teach them.

961
00:45:26,693 --> 00:45:28,653
Speaker 19: But I just think it's sort of you know, we

962
00:45:28,773 --> 00:45:30,213
Speaker 19: never had that sort of stuff and the wet of

963
00:45:30,293 --> 00:45:33,973
Speaker 19: kids and and and just see the kids today, it's

964
00:45:34,053 --> 00:45:37,413
Speaker 19: like they're they're falling away behind because even at primary school.

965
00:45:37,453 --> 00:45:41,813
Speaker 19: I teach my daughter's primary school, most of those kids

966
00:45:41,853 --> 00:45:43,853
Speaker 19: that get there didn't even know how to how to

967
00:45:43,893 --> 00:45:46,573
Speaker 19: count from one to ten or even one to five,

968
00:45:46,973 --> 00:45:50,812
Speaker 19: or even understand what ABC's and b lookali even the letters,

969
00:45:50,893 --> 00:45:53,893
Speaker 19: just identifying the letters itself. But then a lot of

970
00:45:53,973 --> 00:45:59,292
Speaker 19: these kids that come from Cold Key is different to kindergarten. Yeah,

971
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:01,693
Speaker 19: you getting taught like a school. In kindergarten, when you

972
00:46:01,733 --> 00:46:04,333
Speaker 19: get taught your manners, get taught how to act and

973
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:08,133
Speaker 19: how to how to be a responsible persons a young

974
00:46:08,573 --> 00:46:13,573
Speaker 19: you know, yeah, just respecting other people's spaces and child

975
00:46:13,653 --> 00:46:15,453
Speaker 19: care you just to zoom mate.

976
00:46:15,653 --> 00:46:18,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess. I mean, no matter how much

977
00:46:18,213 --> 00:46:19,933
Speaker 2: you're in child care, you're probably at home with your

978
00:46:19,973 --> 00:46:24,133
Speaker 2: parents more than you are in childcare, so those basics

979
00:46:24,133 --> 00:46:26,733
Speaker 2: will be able to use the bathroom by yourself, you know,

980
00:46:26,773 --> 00:46:28,733
Speaker 2: there's still plenty of time for the parents to get

981
00:46:28,773 --> 00:46:29,253
Speaker 2: that one right.

982
00:46:30,573 --> 00:46:33,133
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, definitely, And even to the point of a

983
00:46:33,213 --> 00:46:36,213
Speaker 19: lot of kids have trouble eating. Yeah, that's one of

984
00:46:36,253 --> 00:46:39,693
Speaker 19: the biggest things where it isn't primary because certain foods

985
00:46:39,733 --> 00:46:43,053
Speaker 19: and certain habits of eating is provided by the parents

986
00:46:43,093 --> 00:46:45,653
Speaker 19: at home. They don't have munch and stuff like that.

987
00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:47,732
Speaker 19: You know, they're eating halfway through the day when it's

988
00:46:47,773 --> 00:46:50,253
Speaker 19: not supposed to be eaten. And that's when you get

989
00:46:50,253 --> 00:46:52,493
Speaker 19: to primary school. And I noticed a lot of the

990
00:46:52,933 --> 00:46:56,653
Speaker 19: kids don't eat and it's like they just used to

991
00:46:56,693 --> 00:47:00,693
Speaker 19: picking and you know, or the eating habits of home life,

992
00:47:00,813 --> 00:47:03,213
Speaker 19: and when it gets out to normal school, like they

993
00:47:03,213 --> 00:47:05,973
Speaker 19: don't have enough time to eat there. I don't have

994
00:47:06,093 --> 00:47:07,933
Speaker 19: enough time to eat, they don't have enough time to play.

995
00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:11,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, thanks so much your call fell. I mean

996
00:47:11,213 --> 00:47:13,053
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, my mum would aways give

997
00:47:13,053 --> 00:47:15,573
Speaker 2: me a full carrot in my lunch. Nice, And I thought,

998
00:47:15,773 --> 00:47:19,053
Speaker 2: this is this is at Marty Hill Primary School in Dunedin,

999
00:47:19,333 --> 00:47:21,053
Speaker 2: and I thought, you had to eat your whole lunch

1000
00:47:21,053 --> 00:47:22,732
Speaker 2: before you're allowed to play. So I'd be looking around

1001
00:47:22,773 --> 00:47:24,533
Speaker 2: and all my friends would be playing and I'd be

1002
00:47:24,573 --> 00:47:26,573
Speaker 2: sitting there just trying to get through a whole carrot,

1003
00:47:27,533 --> 00:47:29,893
Speaker 2: just munching through this carrot like a rabbit, and I

1004
00:47:29,933 --> 00:47:31,453
Speaker 2: couldn't get through it. And so I just missed out

1005
00:47:31,453 --> 00:47:34,013
Speaker 2: on playing because I had been I've been told you

1006
00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:35,053
Speaker 2: had to eat your whole lunch.

1007
00:47:35,213 --> 00:47:37,533
Speaker 3: That is a lovely story, though, that you had that

1008
00:47:37,653 --> 00:47:40,013
Speaker 3: installed in you now, Matt, eat your carrot before you

1009
00:47:40,173 --> 00:47:41,133
Speaker 3: get on the monkey bars.

1010
00:47:41,173 --> 00:47:41,652
Speaker 2: That's nice.

1011
00:47:41,773 --> 00:47:41,933
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1012
00:47:41,973 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 2: But then I told my mum that she said, no,

1013
00:47:44,973 --> 00:47:46,693
Speaker 2: you don't have to, So then I stopped eating my

1014
00:47:46,773 --> 00:47:48,093
Speaker 2: lunch at all. And then I just put them in

1015
00:47:48,173 --> 00:47:51,533
Speaker 2: my backpack and then about once a month, I'd hit

1016
00:47:51,653 --> 00:47:54,693
Speaker 2: them down the side of the bank at Donaldson's Nursery

1017
00:47:54,813 --> 00:47:57,453
Speaker 2: down the road from our house and not eat them

1018
00:47:57,453 --> 00:47:57,732
Speaker 2: at all.

1019
00:47:57,853 --> 00:48:00,933
Speaker 3: Started off so well, dinto folks, and then it went sideways.

1020
00:48:01,373 --> 00:48:02,973
Speaker 2: As a teacher, there are a few things I refused

1021
00:48:02,973 --> 00:48:06,293
Speaker 2: to do, including helping children with clothing and shoelaces. These

1022
00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:09,573
Speaker 2: things should be learnt before school. You are not helping

1023
00:48:09,613 --> 00:48:12,773
Speaker 2: them by doing too much. Thanks from Paula. Yeah, I mean,

1024
00:48:12,853 --> 00:48:14,293
Speaker 2: god bloody basics.

1025
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:15,172
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1026
00:48:15,573 --> 00:48:17,413
Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1027
00:48:17,653 --> 00:48:19,693
Speaker 3: number to call if you want to send through a text,

1028
00:48:19,813 --> 00:48:23,933
Speaker 3: nine to nine two. Just on the kindergarten discussion, I know,

1029
00:48:24,533 --> 00:48:27,652
Speaker 3: I think that early child care is still a big thing,

1030
00:48:27,893 --> 00:48:30,613
Speaker 3: whether that's kindergarten, whether that's preschool or whatever you want

1031
00:48:30,653 --> 00:48:34,493
Speaker 3: to call it. But is that still to parents out

1032
00:48:34,533 --> 00:48:36,293
Speaker 3: there listening, is that still a big thing for you

1033
00:48:36,533 --> 00:48:40,173
Speaker 3: to send your child for skills, for social skills and

1034
00:48:40,453 --> 00:48:44,172
Speaker 3: interacting with other children, or is it a necessity because

1035
00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:45,013
Speaker 3: you both have to work.

1036
00:48:45,493 --> 00:48:48,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think our kids we sent them for both.

1037
00:48:49,173 --> 00:48:51,773
Speaker 2: One we had to because we were both working, and

1038
00:48:51,813 --> 00:48:53,613
Speaker 2: the other one we thought, you know, it was good

1039
00:48:53,653 --> 00:48:56,093
Speaker 2: for the socialization and the other one was, you know,

1040
00:48:56,373 --> 00:48:58,013
Speaker 2: by that point, the other one was a bit older,

1041
00:48:58,093 --> 00:49:01,493
Speaker 2: but still at that daycare, and I remember us having

1042
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:05,172
Speaker 2: a discussion saying that it'd be great if our kids

1043
00:49:05,213 --> 00:49:08,013
Speaker 2: spend you know, like all that time with a bunch

1044
00:49:08,053 --> 00:49:10,573
Speaker 2: of other kids now and learn how to interact with them.

1045
00:49:10,693 --> 00:49:12,773
Speaker 3: Makes sense. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1046
00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:14,453
Speaker 3: the number to call. Nine two ninet two is the

1047
00:49:14,493 --> 00:49:17,053
Speaker 3: text number? It is sixteen past two.

1048
00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:20,973
Speaker 2: Yes, So the question is, I wait, one hundred eighteen

1049
00:49:21,053 --> 00:49:24,013
Speaker 2: eighty what should you teach your kids before they start

1050
00:49:24,133 --> 00:49:26,213
Speaker 2: primary school? And we've also got someone pushing back on

1051
00:49:26,293 --> 00:49:31,013
Speaker 2: the mantra nobody owes you anything? That famously Harry Brown,

1052
00:49:31,333 --> 00:49:33,373
Speaker 2: that famous letter that Harry Brown wrote to his daughter.

1053
00:49:33,893 --> 00:49:39,133
Speaker 2: All right, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, your new home.

1054
00:49:39,013 --> 00:49:42,853
Speaker 1: Of Afternoon Talk, Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the Volvo

1055
00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:46,053
Speaker 1: XC ninety, turn every journey into something special.

1056
00:49:46,213 --> 00:49:49,213
Speaker 4: Call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said, be.

1057
00:49:51,253 --> 00:49:52,652
Speaker 3: Nineteen past two.

1058
00:49:53,413 --> 00:49:55,493
Speaker 2: So we were talking before. I think it was Tanya Rangon,

1059
00:49:55,573 --> 00:49:58,013
Speaker 2: and she was talking about the famous Harry Brown letter

1060
00:49:58,133 --> 00:50:01,293
Speaker 2: to his daughter about you know, the basic idea is

1061
00:50:01,333 --> 00:50:04,253
Speaker 2: nobody owes you anything. This text of Matt says this

1062
00:50:04,413 --> 00:50:06,493
Speaker 2: nobody owes you anything mantra is just a miserable and

1063
00:50:06,573 --> 00:50:08,493
Speaker 2: mean way to approach life. We should all have up

1064
00:50:08,573 --> 00:50:11,813
Speaker 2: where we can, where we can where there is need,

1065
00:50:11,973 --> 00:50:15,093
Speaker 2: because but by the grace of God, that could be us.

1066
00:50:15,493 --> 00:50:18,333
Speaker 2: As for our kids, we owe them everything, starting with love, compassion,

1067
00:50:18,373 --> 00:50:22,453
Speaker 2: our undivited attention whenever possible in a world where certain interests,

1068
00:50:22,493 --> 00:50:24,813
Speaker 2: shall we say, want to make life harder than it

1069
00:50:24,933 --> 00:50:27,853
Speaker 2: needs to be. That's a misunderstanding of the nobody owes

1070
00:50:27,893 --> 00:50:30,453
Speaker 2: you anything, but nobody only anything means that you can

1071
00:50:30,493 --> 00:50:32,773
Speaker 2: still be grateful if someone does something for you, but

1072
00:50:32,893 --> 00:50:34,933
Speaker 2: to expect a whole lot of stuff and then feel

1073
00:50:34,973 --> 00:50:39,053
Speaker 2: disappointed when it isn't given to you, and that so

1074
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:41,252
Speaker 2: it could still be a very beautiful thing. In fact,

1075
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:44,693
Speaker 2: it's a fantastic thing. So no one owed you it,

1076
00:50:45,053 --> 00:50:46,733
Speaker 2: but they did it for you. Yep, So you can

1077
00:50:46,773 --> 00:50:49,293
Speaker 2: be very very grateful. And on the reverse side of that,

1078
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:51,533
Speaker 2: when people don't do things for you, you don't take

1079
00:50:51,573 --> 00:50:53,893
Speaker 2: it as an existential crisis in your life because they

1080
00:50:53,933 --> 00:50:54,413
Speaker 2: didn't owe you.

1081
00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:57,893
Speaker 3: It's that idea of entitlement, right Yeah, And sadly I

1082
00:50:58,053 --> 00:51:00,613
Speaker 3: think there is a real issue with entitlement, and not

1083
00:51:00,773 --> 00:51:02,493
Speaker 3: just New Zealand, but around the world. Now, that's why

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00:51:02,573 --> 00:51:06,453
Speaker 3: you get the victimhood that I didn't get something, you know,

1085
00:51:06,573 --> 00:51:09,613
Speaker 3: and I was owed it whatever reason. That's not how

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00:51:09,653 --> 00:51:10,133
Speaker 3: they will work.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean as a person you shouldn't be as

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00:51:12,493 --> 00:51:15,493
Speaker 2: charitable as you can from your perspective. No, you should

1089
00:51:15,533 --> 00:51:17,893
Speaker 2: give as much as you can to other people. But

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00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:20,613
Speaker 2: you can also do things where you're giving too much

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00:51:20,653 --> 00:51:22,893
Speaker 2: and seeming like you're a great parent, as this teacher.

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00:51:22,973 --> 00:51:26,613
Speaker 2: Anonymous teacher in this article is saying, the parents have

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00:51:26,733 --> 00:51:29,573
Speaker 2: lame because we're not giving kids the opportunity to develop

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00:51:29,613 --> 00:51:32,853
Speaker 2: and fail. Don't jump in and fix everything as a parent.

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00:51:33,293 --> 00:51:35,893
Speaker 2: Then they'll learn nothing. They're learning I'm in trouble, mom

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00:51:35,933 --> 00:51:37,373
Speaker 2: and dad will come and fix me. So you might

1097
00:51:37,453 --> 00:51:39,413
Speaker 2: be thinking that you're being the best parent in the world,

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00:51:39,493 --> 00:51:43,053
Speaker 2: and that you are being incredibly generous and giving to

1099
00:51:43,093 --> 00:51:46,413
Speaker 2: your but not allowing them to fail and learn, you're

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00:51:46,453 --> 00:51:48,453
Speaker 2: actually not setting them up to be able to deal

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00:51:48,493 --> 00:51:48,813
Speaker 2: with life.

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Speaker 3: Yeap, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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00:51:50,973 --> 00:51:53,373
Speaker 3: number to call, Kate, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 5: Great?

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00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:57,533
Speaker 20: Thank you. I've got a few points, but I want

1106
00:51:57,573 --> 00:52:01,773
Speaker 20: to make one is from my daughter. She was a

1107
00:52:01,853 --> 00:52:04,253
Speaker 20: primary school teacher in beech Haven. It was quite a

1108
00:52:04,293 --> 00:52:08,812
Speaker 20: deprived school, so she taught ones and twos. I'll start

1109
00:52:08,893 --> 00:52:11,093
Speaker 20: with her first, but they also wanted to talk about

1110
00:52:11,133 --> 00:52:14,133
Speaker 20: my friend who's a police officer and what she says

1111
00:52:14,413 --> 00:52:17,613
Speaker 20: that you should tell kids before they go to school.

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Speaker 20: And as a midwife, I also have a vested interest

1113
00:52:21,013 --> 00:52:24,733
Speaker 20: in that. But anyway, she what she used to do

1114
00:52:25,613 --> 00:52:30,093
Speaker 20: to support her kids, he brought up. She brought up

1115
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:34,413
Speaker 20: the levels of the Mary and Pacific Island boys by

1116
00:52:34,493 --> 00:52:37,653
Speaker 20: getting them to not lark around at the back and

1117
00:52:37,773 --> 00:52:43,053
Speaker 20: sit near her. She also got the parents involved, so

1118
00:52:43,133 --> 00:52:45,453
Speaker 20: the parents had to come in with the new teacher,

1119
00:52:46,213 --> 00:52:50,933
Speaker 20: and then she sees them in the afternoon without the

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Speaker 20: kids there and explains to them about how important it

1121
00:52:55,293 --> 00:52:58,133
Speaker 20: is to read with your kids, to teach them how

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00:52:58,213 --> 00:53:02,933
Speaker 20: to write their own name, to hear them do their homework,

1123
00:53:02,973 --> 00:53:04,813
Speaker 20: and make them sit at the particular table so you

1124
00:53:04,893 --> 00:53:07,933
Speaker 20: know what they're doing, getting off phones and all.

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00:53:07,813 --> 00:53:08,613
Speaker 21: Of that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 20: That they should also do chores on a regular basis,

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00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 20: and they need to get to bed early because they

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00:53:14,093 --> 00:53:15,973
Speaker 20: won't be able to study when they depth of school.

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00:53:18,213 --> 00:53:26,133
Speaker 20: So it's really important. I think that parents realize that

1130
00:53:26,933 --> 00:53:29,893
Speaker 20: their child might be in danger if they don't give

1131
00:53:30,093 --> 00:53:35,853
Speaker 20: the school names of people who may collect. Also from

1132
00:53:35,973 --> 00:53:40,253
Speaker 20: my friend who's a teacher, and she was a teacher

1133
00:53:40,293 --> 00:53:43,692
Speaker 20: but she was now a cop, she said that there

1134
00:53:43,733 --> 00:53:48,133
Speaker 20: are too many people, too many girls that have a

1135
00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:52,053
Speaker 20: child now and then they have boyfriends later on, they

1136
00:53:52,093 --> 00:53:55,653
Speaker 20: don't stay with the dad. And she said there should

1137
00:53:55,653 --> 00:54:00,973
Speaker 20: be strict rules around babysitting because as a cop she

1138
00:54:01,293 --> 00:54:04,973
Speaker 20: used to get lots of lots of weird people, you know,

1139
00:54:05,133 --> 00:54:07,692
Speaker 20: wanting to go out with the girl, and the girl thought, oh,

1140
00:54:07,773 --> 00:54:10,453
Speaker 20: it's amazing, and he loved my kids, and you know,

1141
00:54:10,573 --> 00:54:12,812
Speaker 20: they can go out. But really they're after the kids

1142
00:54:12,853 --> 00:54:16,693
Speaker 20: and not the not the mom, not the mum. So

1143
00:54:17,253 --> 00:54:22,213
Speaker 20: also as a midwife, I would suggest when anyone is

1144
00:54:22,333 --> 00:54:29,333
Speaker 20: babysitting that they actually know who they are and they

1145
00:54:29,453 --> 00:54:33,253
Speaker 20: explain rules about no one touches you under your swimsuit

1146
00:54:33,413 --> 00:54:35,893
Speaker 20: and and things like that they can because that is

1147
00:54:36,013 --> 00:54:40,253
Speaker 20: really common. And as a midwife, I don't feel I

1148
00:54:40,373 --> 00:54:43,253
Speaker 20: used to see this all the time. A girl, a

1149
00:54:43,333 --> 00:54:45,733
Speaker 20: girl having lots of visitors and then you've got an

1150
00:54:45,813 --> 00:54:49,133
Speaker 20: uncle cuddling up to her in her bed, and various people.

1151
00:54:48,933 --> 00:54:50,493
Speaker 22: Staying over, and you think.

1152
00:54:52,173 --> 00:54:55,133
Speaker 20: When I hear from social workers that offer, there's so

1153
00:54:55,373 --> 00:54:59,173
Speaker 20: there is so much incestuous stuff going on and things

1154
00:54:59,293 --> 00:55:01,533
Speaker 20: that shouldn't happen to children.

1155
00:55:03,173 --> 00:55:08,973
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Kate. Yeah, I mean, of

1156
00:55:09,093 --> 00:55:11,893
Speaker 2: course there's terrible, terrible risks out there in the world.

1157
00:55:13,253 --> 00:55:16,573
Speaker 2: But you know, and this text to here on says

1158
00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:21,373
Speaker 2: this one second, I've just lost it here. This isn't

1159
00:55:21,413 --> 00:55:23,493
Speaker 2: all on parents. When I grew up, an eight year

1160
00:55:23,533 --> 00:55:26,453
Speaker 2: old was adequate supervision for a five year old. We

1161
00:55:26,573 --> 00:55:29,133
Speaker 2: all want independent kids, but if you sent a five

1162
00:55:29,213 --> 00:55:30,893
Speaker 2: to eight year old out to the shops today, you're

1163
00:55:30,933 --> 00:55:33,413
Speaker 2: risking a call from social services at Pascal.

1164
00:55:34,173 --> 00:55:34,373
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1165
00:55:34,453 --> 00:55:36,013
Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, we've talked about this before

1166
00:55:36,093 --> 00:55:38,373
Speaker 2: on the show. Jonathan Hyde talks about how you want

1167
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:40,253
Speaker 2: to send your kids down to the shops as young

1168
00:55:40,293 --> 00:55:42,493
Speaker 2: as they can, to do as many independent stuff as

1169
00:55:42,533 --> 00:55:47,013
Speaker 2: they can so they becomes as competent as possible. But

1170
00:55:47,253 --> 00:55:49,733
Speaker 2: there is now a thing where you know, there is

1171
00:55:49,733 --> 00:55:52,333
Speaker 2: a certain judgment about that kind of thing, because you know,

1172
00:55:52,493 --> 00:55:54,453
Speaker 2: we hear about all the terrible things that can happen,

1173
00:55:54,773 --> 00:55:58,292
Speaker 2: and terrible things can definitely happen, but we can't stop

1174
00:55:58,373 --> 00:56:02,013
Speaker 2: our kids from you know, experiencing what the world's like,

1175
00:56:02,413 --> 00:56:06,253
Speaker 2: just because we can imagine incredibly horrific things happening to them.

1176
00:56:06,333 --> 00:56:10,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that parental anxiety across pretty much everything, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, my child is still not speaking at the

1178
00:56:12,653 --> 00:56:14,613
Speaker 3: age of two and a half, there must be something

1179
00:56:14,653 --> 00:56:16,453
Speaker 3: wrong with it. My child doesn't know how to pick

1180
00:56:16,533 --> 00:56:18,413
Speaker 3: up a pin at four years old, there must be

1181
00:56:18,493 --> 00:56:20,613
Speaker 3: something wrong with my child. I mean, as just an

1182
00:56:20,653 --> 00:56:23,172
Speaker 3: information overload for parents. No, there's nothing wrong with your

1183
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:25,613
Speaker 3: child if they're not speaking by two and a half, three,

1184
00:56:25,773 --> 00:56:27,933
Speaker 3: even four, you know, I mean, there might not be

1185
00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:29,613
Speaker 3: anything wrong with your child if they hold in a

1186
00:56:29,693 --> 00:56:32,613
Speaker 3: pin like we're with their fist, rather than.

1187
00:56:32,613 --> 00:56:34,893
Speaker 2: Well, if someone has had two children, you're really, really,

1188
00:56:35,013 --> 00:56:37,133
Speaker 2: really worry about every second of the first child, and

1189
00:56:37,213 --> 00:56:38,813
Speaker 2: then then the second child you're like, oh, okay that

1190
00:56:39,213 --> 00:56:42,133
Speaker 2: you know that this will work itself out. There's too

1191
00:56:42,213 --> 00:56:44,333
Speaker 2: much emphasis as this text on making kids happy and

1192
00:56:44,373 --> 00:56:47,853
Speaker 2: not enough emphasis on making them competent, capable, and hopefully

1193
00:56:47,933 --> 00:56:50,652
Speaker 2: good human beings. The ironies is that if we better

1194
00:56:50,693 --> 00:56:52,973
Speaker 2: prepare them for the world, eg. By expecting more of

1195
00:56:53,053 --> 00:56:56,613
Speaker 2: them and holding them accountable in line with previous generations

1196
00:56:56,733 --> 00:56:59,573
Speaker 2: we're likely raised better adjusted and happier people. That's from

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Speaker 2: Caliga Text text Yes.

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Speaker 3: Right, keen to hear from you on this one. I

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Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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00:57:05,373 --> 00:57:08,053
Speaker 3: to call. What schools should we be teaching our children

1201
00:57:08,093 --> 00:57:10,813
Speaker 3: before they start school? Nine two ninety two is the

1202
00:57:10,973 --> 00:57:12,933
Speaker 3: text number. It's twenty six past two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

1204
00:57:20,693 --> 00:57:23,013
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on youth Talk Zebby it.

1205
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Speaker 3: Is twenty eight past too, Rebecca. Good afternoon to you.

1206
00:57:27,253 --> 00:57:29,013
Speaker 4: Hello, how are you very good?

1207
00:57:29,093 --> 00:57:31,493
Speaker 3: And what's your take on the skills that children need

1208
00:57:31,533 --> 00:57:32,373
Speaker 3: before they start school?

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Speaker 5: I think kids need to be independent. Parents have got

1210
00:57:37,413 --> 00:57:41,533
Speaker 5: a lot of responsibility to help the children become independent

1211
00:57:41,653 --> 00:57:46,333
Speaker 5: as well, and it requires effort. And I think parents

1212
00:57:46,373 --> 00:57:50,173
Speaker 5: are are sort of seeing parenting these days, so yes,

1213
00:57:50,453 --> 00:57:53,773
Speaker 5: I agree. Well, one thing, I've also read Jonathan Hyde,

1214
00:57:53,893 --> 00:57:56,533
Speaker 5: and I love that guy. I think what he's being

1215
00:57:56,693 --> 00:57:59,773
Speaker 5: makes sense. I try to avoid technology to my kids

1216
00:57:59,813 --> 00:58:03,053
Speaker 5: that I want to send my kids to, you know,

1217
00:58:03,333 --> 00:58:05,373
Speaker 5: to the local dairy to pick some few things up

1218
00:58:05,413 --> 00:58:07,373
Speaker 5: and make my life easy as well and give them

1219
00:58:07,413 --> 00:58:10,653
Speaker 5: the confidence. But one thing I've noticed is that we

1220
00:58:10,853 --> 00:58:13,893
Speaker 5: all don't have as a society, we do not have

1221
00:58:14,133 --> 00:58:17,973
Speaker 5: same values. And what I mean by this is I

1222
00:58:18,093 --> 00:58:20,493
Speaker 5: mean to my sister in rows. It was a child's

1223
00:58:20,493 --> 00:58:23,173
Speaker 5: fitday party and my sister in law and her friends

1224
00:58:23,173 --> 00:58:26,013
Speaker 5: they were having a discussion and they said, no matter what,

1225
00:58:26,453 --> 00:58:29,653
Speaker 5: you should not be touching a child, which meaning like,

1226
00:58:29,853 --> 00:58:32,573
Speaker 5: if there's on a road there's a child crossing on

1227
00:58:32,733 --> 00:58:35,813
Speaker 5: his own, you should not touch the child because this

1228
00:58:36,013 --> 00:58:38,333
Speaker 5: is this is how we protect the kids. And I'm like,

1229
00:58:38,373 --> 00:58:40,453
Speaker 5: what if there is a car coming and they're like,

1230
00:58:40,613 --> 00:58:42,533
Speaker 5: you stand in front of the car, but you do

1231
00:58:42,693 --> 00:58:43,813
Speaker 5: not push the child away?

1232
00:58:44,093 --> 00:58:46,933
Speaker 2: What age are we talking about? For this party were bigger,

1233
00:58:48,533 --> 00:58:51,053
Speaker 2: but what age was there were the kids at this party?

1234
00:58:54,093 --> 00:58:57,853
Speaker 5: No, it's like any age. It could be like toddless

1235
00:58:58,013 --> 00:59:01,493
Speaker 5: to like sixteen year old. The point is that if

1236
00:59:01,573 --> 00:59:05,733
Speaker 5: my child is in danger, some other hearing might feel

1237
00:59:05,933 --> 00:59:09,653
Speaker 5: uncomfortable like helping the child, so they don't know what's

1238
00:59:09,693 --> 00:59:13,773
Speaker 5: acceptable as a parent. Now, like me as a mother,

1239
00:59:14,013 --> 00:59:17,173
Speaker 5: if I see a child roaming around alone, I would

1240
00:59:17,333 --> 00:59:20,693
Speaker 5: like to go with him and ask are you okay?

1241
00:59:21,093 --> 00:59:25,013
Speaker 5: Can I help you in any way? Yeah? You should

1242
00:59:25,093 --> 00:59:27,693
Speaker 5: this should be the virtue of the whole society. But

1243
00:59:27,973 --> 00:59:30,853
Speaker 5: so many people are so scared to do the right

1244
00:59:30,933 --> 00:59:33,373
Speaker 5: thing now. So what I'm trying to say is the

1245
00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:36,773
Speaker 5: virtues are not the same anymore. So one person like

1246
00:59:37,253 --> 00:59:39,173
Speaker 5: I don't want to get involved in this because I

1247
00:59:39,213 --> 00:59:41,333
Speaker 5: don't want to be seen as a certain person because

1248
00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:44,893
Speaker 5: there's so many stories out there, you know what I mean,

1249
00:59:45,093 --> 00:59:48,613
Speaker 5: Not like what Jonathan Hired is saying. It's good, it

1250
00:59:49,573 --> 00:59:52,373
Speaker 5: makes sense, but as a society.

1251
00:59:52,093 --> 00:59:53,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, have the rules.

1252
00:59:54,293 --> 00:59:56,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, Because I mean,

1253
00:59:56,053 --> 00:59:58,093
Speaker 2: you might want to do the right thing that's going

1254
00:59:58,133 --> 00:59:59,773
Speaker 2: to be good for a kid, but there's another parent

1255
00:59:59,853 --> 01:00:03,453
Speaker 2: around that believes that your parents shouldn't people, shouldn't talk

1256
01:00:03,493 --> 01:00:05,213
Speaker 2: a certain way for kids, shouldn't tell them what to do,

1257
01:00:06,173 --> 01:00:08,053
Speaker 2: shouldn't pack them up if they're about to run onto

1258
01:00:08,053 --> 01:00:10,013
Speaker 2: the and you never be able to touch kids, then

1259
01:00:10,253 --> 01:00:12,573
Speaker 2: that makes it hard because it's their kids in there

1260
01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,693
Speaker 2: and there and there the situation that you're put into.

1261
01:00:15,933 --> 01:00:18,173
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. That's that that is a

1262
01:00:18,333 --> 01:00:20,413
Speaker 2: that is a problem. But I mean, if the kids

1263
01:00:20,693 --> 01:00:22,493
Speaker 2: his parents saying that kids should never be touched by

1264
01:00:22,573 --> 01:00:25,373
Speaker 2: it and grabbed by an adult if they're running or

1265
01:00:25,453 --> 01:00:28,213
Speaker 2: doing something stupid, that that would be the most insane

1266
01:00:28,333 --> 01:00:31,253
Speaker 2: rule to have get hit by a car. Kid comes

1267
01:00:31,333 --> 01:00:33,773
Speaker 2: running across the party with a steak knife, Yeah, then

1268
01:00:33,893 --> 01:00:37,893
Speaker 2: I thinks going to But The Coddling of the American

1269
01:00:37,933 --> 01:00:41,293
Speaker 2: Mind by Jonathan Hyden just he put the interesting point

1270
01:00:41,373 --> 01:00:45,893
Speaker 2: that at one point in American history, what happened was

1271
01:00:46,293 --> 01:00:49,093
Speaker 2: a New York dad his kid went missing, and he

1272
01:00:49,213 --> 01:00:51,693
Speaker 2: campaigned to have missing kids put on the milk pails,

1273
01:00:51,773 --> 01:00:54,213
Speaker 2: right on the milk curtains every day. So every day

1274
01:00:54,293 --> 01:00:56,693
Speaker 2: in America through late seventies and right through the eighties

1275
01:00:56,733 --> 01:00:58,893
Speaker 2: and nineties, and still this day, when people get up,

1276
01:00:58,933 --> 01:01:02,453
Speaker 2: they see a missing child on the on the milk cart.

1277
01:01:03,133 --> 01:01:06,653
Speaker 2: And as a result, America went into this crazy feeling

1278
01:01:06,773 --> 01:01:08,493
Speaker 2: like a lot of kids were being grabbed and a

1279
01:01:08,533 --> 01:01:10,853
Speaker 2: lot of terrible things were happening, when it wasn't really

1280
01:01:10,933 --> 01:01:13,853
Speaker 2: it was more complicated. It would be the divorce situations

1281
01:01:13,893 --> 01:01:16,573
Speaker 2: that were making the kid go missing. So he believes

1282
01:01:16,933 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 2: when you look into that's when people started getting incredibly

1283
01:01:19,693 --> 01:01:22,013
Speaker 2: freaked out and stopping the kids going down to the

1284
01:01:22,093 --> 01:01:23,893
Speaker 2: shops and stopping the kids going to the park by

1285
01:01:23,933 --> 01:01:28,893
Speaker 2: themselves and the helicopter parenting came in because people were

1286
01:01:28,933 --> 01:01:30,533
Speaker 2: seeing these kids and going, oh my god, my kid

1287
01:01:30,573 --> 01:01:33,773
Speaker 2: could be grabbed, and that permeated across the world. And

1288
01:01:33,853 --> 01:01:35,693
Speaker 2: now we get the culture we have now where kids

1289
01:01:35,733 --> 01:01:38,213
Speaker 2: can't walk to school, and when less kids walk to school,

1290
01:01:38,253 --> 01:01:40,053
Speaker 2: even less kids walk to school because it seems like

1291
01:01:40,093 --> 01:01:41,933
Speaker 2: an odd thing to do and everyone's dropping them off

1292
01:01:42,013 --> 01:01:45,253
Speaker 2: and such, and he's putting it that this is one

1293
01:01:45,293 --> 01:01:47,733
Speaker 2: of the starting points of just this absolute paranoia that's

1294
01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:49,613
Speaker 2: out there about what can happen to our kids when

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Speaker 2: really they can walk to the shops and back from

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Speaker 2: six years old.

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Speaker 3: They did it for many decades in the past and

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Speaker 3: they can still do it. But that has been a

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Speaker 3: great discussion. So thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so just to some thing's up, this is

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Speaker 2: what this teacher said to Greg Bruce anonymously. So parents

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Speaker 2: that are blame. We're not giving our kids the opportunity

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01:02:12,973 --> 01:02:15,133
Speaker 2: to develop and fail. We jump in if they've got

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01:02:15,173 --> 01:02:17,453
Speaker 2: a relationship problem, we jump in if they do something

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01:02:17,493 --> 01:02:20,813
Speaker 2: wrong with Russian and we wonder why and hassle the

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Speaker 2: teacher when anything happens. You should get them to ride

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Speaker 2: their bike, go to the monkey bars, and the play games,

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01:02:25,613 --> 01:02:27,653
Speaker 2: crime trees, get them to write, get them to draw,

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Speaker 2: not on an iPad, but literally. I would say all

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Speaker 2: children should do team sports. Don't jump in and fix

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Speaker 2: everything as a parent. Then they've learned nothing. They're learning.

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Speaker 2: If I'm in trouble, mom and dad will come and

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Speaker 2: fix it.

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Speaker 3: Yeap, beautiful advice. That is where we'll leave that discussion.

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Speaker 3: Headlines with railing coming up. Then let's have a chat

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Speaker 3: about digital car keys and the price will cost to

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Speaker 3: replace those fobs. Crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've just seen some people have been texting in

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Speaker 2: since we started talking about this. How much people are

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Speaker 2: paying to get their fob replaced when they lose their keys. Insane,

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Speaker 2: it's insanity.

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Speaker 3: It is right. That's coming up. It is twenty six

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Speaker 3: to three.

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Speaker 4: US talks. They'd be headlines with.

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Speaker 15: Blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 2: It's no trouble with a blue.

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Speaker 16: The Trade Minister can't predict how long trade negotiations with

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Speaker 16: India will take, but says talks will start next month.

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Speaker 16: New Zealand has not been formally invited to join an

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Speaker 16: alliance supporting Ukraine, but our Prime Minister's attended a virtual

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Speaker 16: meeting discussing issues hosted by Britain. The performance of government

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Speaker 16: agency bosses will go under the microscope this month and next.

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Speaker 16: A briefing to Minister Judith Colin states the public service

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Speaker 16: has too much management complexity and uncertainty, a lack of

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Speaker 16: innovation and inefficient use of resources. Education Minister Ericus Stanford's

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Speaker 16: heading to Iceland for the International Summit on the Teaching

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Speaker 16: Profession and visiting schools in the UK, Sweden and Germany,

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Speaker 16: and Universities Minister Shane that Etti is attending the Conference

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Speaker 16: of Pacific Education Ministers in Papua New Guinea. Act is

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Speaker 16: criticized a post by Tapati Mari's Araweri Waititi that said

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Speaker 16: he should treat mowing the lawn as if the grass

1342
01:04:09,413 --> 01:04:14,853
Speaker 16: was David Seymour Supermarket Walls food Stuff's property boss describes

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Speaker 16: victory over rival Walworths as a game changer. You can

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Speaker 16: find out more at enz and Herald Premium. Back to

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Speaker 16: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. Let's have a chat about

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01:04:25,373 --> 01:04:28,533
Speaker 3: car keys. Digital car keys could be the future. More

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Speaker 3: of these digital car keys are becoming common in new vehicles.

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01:04:32,093 --> 01:04:35,293
Speaker 3: They offer convenience as you'd expect by allowing drivers to

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01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:38,773
Speaker 3: unlock and start their vehicles using a smartphone. But big

1351
01:04:38,933 --> 01:04:42,613
Speaker 3: questions around the safety of these digital car keys. So effectively,

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01:04:42,893 --> 01:04:45,053
Speaker 3: how it works is you might have it with one

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01:04:45,093 --> 01:04:46,933
Speaker 3: of your credit cards on your smartphone. So you've got

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01:04:46,973 --> 01:04:49,613
Speaker 3: your Wii wallet on your smartphone, your digital wallet, so

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01:04:49,733 --> 01:04:54,173
Speaker 3: you upload this digital krke and then it allows you

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Speaker 3: to unlock and start the car.

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Speaker 2: Yeah awesome, Yeah that's what you want, right. It sounds

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01:04:59,933 --> 01:05:02,133
Speaker 2: very flash Yeah, because and I'd like to hear from

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01:05:02,133 --> 01:05:04,213
Speaker 2: people on one hundred and eighty ten eighty that are

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Speaker 2: trying to run a completely digital wallet like I am.

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Speaker 2: You are, So I want to I want to remove everything.

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Speaker 2: I don't want car keys. I want them to be

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Speaker 2: on my phone. I do all my credit card and

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Speaker 2: if post transactions on my phone. Everything I've currently because

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01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 2: I've got the swiper, because we've got the ends in

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01:05:21,933 --> 01:05:24,413
Speaker 2: me has the highest security ever. I think we've protected knocks.

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Speaker 2: There's about fifty doors to get into the studio.

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Speaker 3: He needs protecting.

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Speaker 2: He does need protecting. Yeah, he needs protection from us,

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Speaker 2: judging where some of his comments. But so I've got

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01:05:36,053 --> 01:05:38,853
Speaker 2: to have that, and I've got to have my gym swiper,

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Speaker 2: So I super glued them together poorly.

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Speaker 3: I can see that I was just about to question

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Speaker 3: your super glue inability.

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01:05:44,533 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 2: I've super glued them together and super glued them to

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01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:49,573
Speaker 2: my phone and absolute mess with the super glue when

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01:05:49,613 --> 01:05:53,013
Speaker 2: everywhere my fingers I could have committed multiple crimes because

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Speaker 2: my prints were missing for days.

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Speaker 3: You've got to know what you're doing when you rock

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Speaker 3: out the super glue. You've got to practice beforehand. Right,

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01:06:00,493 --> 01:06:02,133
Speaker 3: Have I got this down pad? Have I got the movement?

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure because you've only got.

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01:06:03,573 --> 01:06:05,653
Speaker 3: A second and a half before that rise and your stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's not get complicated. Let's not get off

1385
01:06:07,933 --> 01:06:11,253
Speaker 2: topic with I could talk about that for hours. But

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01:06:11,413 --> 01:06:14,373
Speaker 2: the whole digital wallet thing, yeah, I want my car

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01:06:14,493 --> 01:06:17,693
Speaker 2: keys to be in there, right And I think I

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Speaker 2: mean people say that it's not a safe How do

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01:06:19,973 --> 01:06:21,293
Speaker 2: you mean not as safe as a key that you

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Speaker 2: can drop on the ground or a fob that you

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Speaker 2: can press and your car will beep and you can

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Speaker 2: go and find out exactly where it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to bring up the price of or

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Speaker 3: the cost of replacing fobs very very soon as part

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Speaker 3: of this discussion. But I think you're insane having everything

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Speaker 3: on your phone. And the reason I think you're insane.

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Speaker 3: What if it doesn't work for some reason. You go

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Speaker 3: to pick up your groceries at the supermarket and all

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01:06:41,973 --> 01:06:44,213
Speaker 3: you've got is your credit card on your phone, and

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01:06:44,453 --> 01:06:48,733
Speaker 3: just for some reason that day, it doesn't compute, cannot

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01:06:48,853 --> 01:06:51,733
Speaker 3: read it, whatever the situation is. At that point, you're stuffed.

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Speaker 3: I like having a physical, tangible thing in my hand

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01:06:55,213 --> 01:06:55,693
Speaker 3: just in case.

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Speaker 2: Well, this happened to me at a farmer's market the

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Speaker 2: other day. I would have to pay, and I assumed

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01:06:58,653 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 2: that it was going to be a sort of payWave

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01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:03,093
Speaker 2: situation with my phone. I sorted out the guy just

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Speaker 2: gave me his bank account, and I just fired it

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Speaker 2: through and bought my eggs and meat off him by

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Speaker 2: putting it straight into his bank out. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's ways to do it. But the thing is, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: what you're not understanding is I am so addicted to

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Speaker 2: my phone, a terrible digital addiction that I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: find that I will never not have my phone. But

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Speaker 2: I may well leave my keys behind, I may well

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01:07:21,733 --> 01:07:24,813
Speaker 2: leave my wallet behind, but I sense it to the

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Speaker 2: very depth of my soul, of my phone isn't on me,

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Speaker 2: it's first result. Everything is always with me if it's

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01:07:30,373 --> 01:07:33,133
Speaker 2: in the phone. But I am I am also conscious

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Speaker 2: as well that a cashless society would be a bad

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01:07:35,253 --> 01:07:37,493
Speaker 2: thing because we want to have the freedom to be

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Speaker 2: able to pay for things and big brother not know

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Speaker 2: exactly what we're doing. So that's one part of it

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Speaker 2: that I don't like, and I don't nest necessarily like

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Speaker 2: that dirty bustard Tim Cook being part of everything I do.

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Speaker 3: You know I e one hundred eighty ten eighty How

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Speaker 3: do you feel about Mett's idea of going completely digital?

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Speaker 3: And a supplementary question the key fobs? Why are they

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Speaker 3: so friggin expensive when you break them? And I know

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Speaker 3: that because I had some water damage to one of

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Speaker 3: my key fobs and seven hundred bucks seven hundred bucks

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Speaker 3: to replace those key fobs.

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Speaker 2: So it says digital care car keys. Oh you mean

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01:08:10,373 --> 01:08:13,973
Speaker 2: like Tesla old news? Yeah, No one's saying they brand new, mate, Absolutely,

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01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:15,653
Speaker 2: no one said they were brand new. But they are

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01:08:15,733 --> 01:08:18,412
Speaker 2: getting more popular. Yeah, as BMW are doing them now,

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01:08:18,853 --> 01:08:22,692
Speaker 2: and Posta and a bunch of other brands. They're coming

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01:08:22,773 --> 01:08:24,372
Speaker 2: much more common than just the Tesla.

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Speaker 3: Most of the major car manufacturers are now looking at

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Speaker 3: this as an option. And we all remember when we

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01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:31,412
Speaker 3: had the ANALOGU key, we actually had to put it

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01:08:31,532 --> 01:08:35,412
Speaker 3: in to the ignition and turn it. Now, I don't

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01:08:35,412 --> 01:08:37,372
Speaker 3: think you'd find a car built that it has those

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01:08:37,372 --> 01:08:39,253
Speaker 3: old analog keys. They're all pushed that and they've all

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01:08:39,293 --> 01:08:39,972
Speaker 3: got these forbes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean so they are coming yeah, all right, Okay,

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01:08:43,293 --> 01:08:45,532
Speaker 2: Wait one hundred eighty ten eighty you're running a full

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01:08:45,572 --> 01:08:47,772
Speaker 2: digital wallet. Do you want your car keys to be

1449
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:50,972
Speaker 2: moved into your phone? And tell us about your fob

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01:08:51,053 --> 01:08:54,452
Speaker 2: and how much it costs to replace nineteen Why can

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01:08:54,532 --> 01:08:58,652
Speaker 2: someone out there who does this, who does the fob cloning?

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01:08:59,133 --> 01:09:02,093
Speaker 2: Why does it cost seven hundred and fifty dollars? Or

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01:09:02,173 --> 01:09:04,133
Speaker 2: some of these texts coming through, how much it costs

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01:09:04,173 --> 01:09:06,213
Speaker 2: to get their keys in place when they lose them?

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01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:09,293
Speaker 3: Insanity ninety two is the text number eighteen two three.

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Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on Talkback Matt and Taylor Afternoons

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty US talks.

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Speaker 3: B Good afternoon, We're talking about car keys one digital

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01:09:24,532 --> 01:09:27,572
Speaker 3: car keys. They are becoming more common in newer vehicles. Tesla.

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01:09:27,772 --> 01:09:30,532
Speaker 3: We're one of the first major car manufacturers to bring

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01:09:30,612 --> 01:09:33,772
Speaker 3: them in, but more and more car manufacturers are looking

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01:09:33,812 --> 01:09:35,492
Speaker 3: at these digital car keys.

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01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:40,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, BMW pasta. So unlike traditional keyfobs, digital keys rely

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01:09:40,692 --> 01:09:45,572
Speaker 2: on smartphones and encrypted and thought thought authentication protocols, reducing

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01:09:45,572 --> 01:09:49,133
Speaker 2: the likelihood of a traditional relay attacks, but introducing new

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01:09:49,253 --> 01:09:55,253
Speaker 2: cyber security considerations. I'm trying to run a full digital wallet.

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01:09:55,293 --> 01:09:56,532
Speaker 2: But yeah, thing that's hanging out in the back of

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01:09:56,612 --> 01:09:57,692
Speaker 2: it was my keyfob.

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Speaker 3: That's the last piece of the puzzle. Yes, but we've

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01:10:01,213 --> 01:10:04,492
Speaker 3: also asked the question about why replacement key fobs are

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01:10:04,572 --> 01:10:07,812
Speaker 3: so bloody expensive. Seven hundred bucks Julia, how are you?

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01:10:08,893 --> 01:10:10,213
Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm good. How are you guys?

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01:10:10,652 --> 01:10:13,293
Speaker 3: Very good? Now you recently had to replace you Keith

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01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:14,972
Speaker 3: for Yeah.

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01:10:14,893 --> 01:10:15,133
Speaker 5: I did.

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01:10:15,213 --> 01:10:18,173
Speaker 23: Actually, I think one of the blame the children.

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01:10:19,692 --> 01:10:20,052
Speaker 4: The time.

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01:10:20,893 --> 01:10:22,933
Speaker 23: Try your insurance, which I did. I think have a

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01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:26,652
Speaker 23: pretty much four cocks so that's a little tap had

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01:10:26,732 --> 01:10:28,852
Speaker 23: come in from Europe the key, so I look out

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01:10:29,013 --> 01:10:31,133
Speaker 23: a spare key for a few weeks. But have you

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01:10:31,213 --> 01:10:32,293
Speaker 23: tried your insurance company?

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01:10:32,732 --> 01:10:35,492
Speaker 3: No, because I'm a mug and I probably should should

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01:10:35,572 --> 01:10:36,572
Speaker 3: ring my insurance company.

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01:10:36,772 --> 01:10:38,652
Speaker 2: Do you know how much do you know how much

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01:10:38,732 --> 01:10:42,333
Speaker 2: yours was in total, Julia that the insurance company played

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01:10:42,333 --> 01:10:44,692
Speaker 2: for and what was your excess on it?

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01:10:46,013 --> 01:10:48,612
Speaker 23: I was about eleven hundred I thinks once that came

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01:10:48,652 --> 01:10:50,652
Speaker 23: and it had to be programmed as well in top

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01:10:50,772 --> 01:10:54,932
Speaker 23: weeks to come in from yes, Germany or somewhere. But yeah,

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01:10:54,933 --> 01:10:56,772
Speaker 23: it wasn't much of the excess. I can't remember hundred,

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01:10:56,772 --> 01:10:59,812
Speaker 23: one hundred and fifty or something. Yeah, I played there

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01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:01,013
Speaker 23: directly to the car.

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01:11:01,133 --> 01:11:03,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what you went, you went, you went.

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01:11:04,093 --> 01:11:05,532
Speaker 2: Weren't able to drive around for a bit.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 23: I did have one spearbit with some kids using the

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Speaker 23: car as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're talking about you're talking about driving kids

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01:11:16,173 --> 01:11:19,572
Speaker 2: like adult kids, Yeah as well, but we was my car.

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01:11:19,652 --> 01:11:24,053
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, they prime prime suspects.

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01:11:24,333 --> 01:11:25,253
Speaker 3: Definitely, because.

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Speaker 23: The insurance company your spot on.

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01:11:28,692 --> 01:11:31,532
Speaker 3: Just just while we're we were having a chat, I

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01:11:31,612 --> 01:11:33,972
Speaker 3: looked up my policy and you're quite right, keys and locks,

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01:11:34,013 --> 01:11:35,933
Speaker 3: if your keys to your car, have me lost of

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01:11:36,013 --> 01:11:38,532
Speaker 3: style and pay up to one thousand dollars. But here's

1509
01:11:38,612 --> 01:11:42,053
Speaker 3: the fish is my exes. My exes unfortunately as seven

1510
01:11:42,093 --> 01:11:42,612
Speaker 3: hundred bucks.

1511
01:11:42,652 --> 01:11:48,772
Speaker 2: So seven hundred yeah, so Julius play one hundred and fifteen,

1512
01:11:48,772 --> 01:11:49,692
Speaker 2: you're playing seven hundred.

1513
01:11:50,093 --> 01:11:53,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my premiums are pretty low, as low as.

1514
01:11:52,933 --> 01:11:55,053
Speaker 2: I can get them, Julia, would you ever consider just

1515
01:11:55,133 --> 01:11:57,412
Speaker 2: going for a digital key just on your if it

1516
01:11:57,492 --> 01:11:58,692
Speaker 2: was available on your start phone.

1517
01:12:00,133 --> 01:12:03,812
Speaker 23: No, I'm trying to organize primarily end up being fit flat,

1518
01:12:03,933 --> 01:12:06,013
Speaker 23: So no, No, I'd rather have got old session key.

1519
01:12:06,173 --> 01:12:06,852
Speaker 8: Ibout you, guys.

1520
01:12:07,853 --> 01:12:09,852
Speaker 2: The good thing about it. The good thing about a

1521
01:12:09,933 --> 01:12:13,173
Speaker 2: digital app is that you could lock your kids out

1522
01:12:13,213 --> 01:12:14,812
Speaker 2: of the car if you didn't want them at a

1523
01:12:14,853 --> 01:12:17,133
Speaker 2: certain times because you can put you know, time frames

1524
01:12:17,173 --> 01:12:17,372
Speaker 2: on them.

1525
01:12:19,173 --> 01:12:21,772
Speaker 23: You think that like the old fashion why toaster?

1526
01:12:22,093 --> 01:12:27,692
Speaker 3: Yeah called Julian, I went one hundred eighty ten eights

1527
01:12:27,732 --> 01:12:29,973
Speaker 3: the numbered call. There's a lot of tecks coming through

1528
01:12:30,013 --> 01:12:32,572
Speaker 3: about the key fobs, guys. Seven hundred dollars for a

1529
01:12:32,652 --> 01:12:35,732
Speaker 3: key fob is simply a ripoff. I shopped around after

1530
01:12:35,812 --> 01:12:39,093
Speaker 3: I dived into the sea with my Amarok fob. I

1531
01:12:39,173 --> 01:12:42,333
Speaker 3: found a perfectly good one done by a little obscure shop.

1532
01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:43,932
Speaker 3: He did it for around two hundred bucks.

1533
01:12:44,412 --> 01:12:46,852
Speaker 2: What you can do in advance of losing your your

1534
01:12:47,093 --> 01:12:49,333
Speaker 2: your key? Because you know, I bought a new car. Recently,

1535
01:12:49,333 --> 01:12:50,892
Speaker 2: I was shot when they only gave me one key,

1536
01:12:51,372 --> 01:12:52,932
Speaker 2: you know, one that from the dealer.

1537
01:12:53,173 --> 01:12:55,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, demand the second one, surely, yes.

1538
01:12:55,853 --> 01:12:55,893
Speaker 5: So.

1539
01:12:56,933 --> 01:12:58,053
Speaker 2: But what you can do is you can go to

1540
01:12:58,093 --> 01:13:00,093
Speaker 2: one of those kiosks in a more you know, and

1541
01:13:00,173 --> 01:13:04,932
Speaker 2: they'll they'll they'll run a duplicate for you, reasonably cheaply

1542
01:13:05,173 --> 01:13:06,892
Speaker 2: that they have to go out and scan your car

1543
01:13:07,013 --> 01:13:09,013
Speaker 2: and do everything, and you have to leave your care

1544
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:10,852
Speaker 2: and that you know, it takes a bit of time,

1545
01:13:11,173 --> 01:13:13,093
Speaker 2: but they can scan it a lot less than seven

1546
01:13:13,173 --> 01:13:13,692
Speaker 2: hundred bucks.

1547
01:13:13,933 --> 01:13:15,412
Speaker 3: I wish I'd known that a hea at a time.

1548
01:13:15,492 --> 01:13:18,732
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighties the number to call Jason.

1549
01:13:19,013 --> 01:13:21,452
Speaker 2: Jason, you're not happy with the idea of a phone

1550
01:13:21,452 --> 01:13:21,892
Speaker 2: for everything?

1551
01:13:23,253 --> 01:13:25,892
Speaker 11: Oh before before I give you why, Like you guys

1552
01:13:25,933 --> 01:13:27,492
Speaker 11: have got a commend you both. You come up to

1553
01:13:27,492 --> 01:13:31,293
Speaker 11: the most fascinating talk back discussions I've ever heard. So

1554
01:13:31,452 --> 01:13:33,972
Speaker 11: some of the you must spend days thinking while we're

1555
01:13:33,973 --> 01:13:35,492
Speaker 11: going to while we're going to raise next for you.

1556
01:13:37,093 --> 01:13:39,372
Speaker 11: It's all the stuff that we subconsciously think about but

1557
01:13:39,492 --> 01:13:41,333
Speaker 11: never stop to think about. If you get my point, But.

1558
01:13:41,772 --> 01:13:43,772
Speaker 2: Jason, I'll just if we can just cut that audio

1559
01:13:43,853 --> 01:13:45,532
Speaker 2: and send it to her bosses. That'd be great things.

1560
01:13:45,652 --> 01:13:49,293
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, at anytime. Hey two eighty four years to

1561
01:13:49,412 --> 01:13:52,372
Speaker 11: why why it should and why it shouldn't. About about

1562
01:13:52,452 --> 01:13:54,412
Speaker 11: two months before Christmas, my wife and I and the

1563
01:13:54,452 --> 01:13:58,213
Speaker 11: dog were out at not the dog, sorry, my wife

1564
01:13:58,253 --> 01:14:00,053
Speaker 11: and I dogs in the bat We're out and I

1565
01:14:00,093 --> 01:14:03,173
Speaker 11: think Pie Beach and or some of those you know

1566
01:14:03,293 --> 01:14:06,213
Speaker 11: of those western beaches anyway, and this woman was running

1567
01:14:06,293 --> 01:14:08,572
Speaker 11: up to us in a stirrup, saying, oh, if you

1568
01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:11,772
Speaker 11: seen Sena Khakey, And she'd she'd been along the beach

1569
01:14:11,853 --> 01:14:13,852
Speaker 11: with a with a with a friend and she'd lost it,

1570
01:14:13,933 --> 01:14:17,173
Speaker 11: dropped out of a pocket. Tide was coming in. She

1571
01:14:17,253 --> 01:14:19,692
Speaker 11: knew she had it confined down to about eight hundred meters,

1572
01:14:19,732 --> 01:14:21,652
Speaker 11: which is a long way on a beach. So we

1573
01:14:22,452 --> 01:14:24,972
Speaker 11: helped her for about twenty minutes, couldn't find it. Tide

1574
01:14:25,053 --> 01:14:31,092
Speaker 11: came in and she was absolutely stumped, like tow truck whatever, locksmouth, whatever,

1575
01:14:31,572 --> 01:14:33,973
Speaker 11: you know, way out in a remote area. And I

1576
01:14:34,013 --> 01:14:35,772
Speaker 11: was thinking to myself at the time, meagine, you know,

1577
01:14:36,532 --> 01:14:38,732
Speaker 11: imagine if she had something on a phone that managed

1578
01:14:38,772 --> 01:14:41,213
Speaker 11: to activate a car or whatever, you know, digital wallle

1579
01:14:41,333 --> 01:14:44,492
Speaker 11: like you're talking about that, So that that's four. And

1580
01:14:44,572 --> 01:14:47,173
Speaker 11: then I've got a mate who should should not be

1581
01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:50,612
Speaker 11: anywhere near going to digital Walllet he's hopeless with his phone,

1582
01:14:52,333 --> 01:14:55,812
Speaker 11: goes to the Big Apple before Christmas. Hadn't heard from

1583
01:14:55,893 --> 01:14:58,572
Speaker 11: him for five, six, seven days. And that's very unusual

1584
01:14:58,612 --> 01:15:01,333
Speaker 11: because he's always contact you know, daily, twice sometimes and

1585
01:15:01,372 --> 01:15:03,732
Speaker 11: he goes away sure as the eggs. I had a

1586
01:15:03,772 --> 01:15:05,652
Speaker 11: bet with him that I bet you you lose your

1587
01:15:05,692 --> 01:15:08,133
Speaker 11: bloody phone while you're over there. And he lost his phone,

1588
01:15:08,372 --> 01:15:11,412
Speaker 11: could he would stuff? He couldn't get money, Yeah, it

1589
01:15:11,532 --> 01:15:14,412
Speaker 11: wouldn't do a thing. And it got me thinking, you know,

1590
01:15:14,492 --> 01:15:17,013
Speaker 11: these two things that you can't lose and you go overseas,

1591
01:15:17,053 --> 01:15:19,933
Speaker 11: and I thought your passport was the main one. Not

1592
01:15:20,053 --> 01:15:22,333
Speaker 11: to it's actually your phone, your life from there.

1593
01:15:22,532 --> 01:15:22,732
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1594
01:15:23,213 --> 01:15:23,372
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1595
01:15:23,532 --> 01:15:24,612
Speaker 2: Is he a big drink of your friend?

1596
01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:26,053
Speaker 8: What's that?

1597
01:15:26,333 --> 01:15:27,052
Speaker 2: Is he a big drinker?

1598
01:15:27,213 --> 01:15:27,412
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1599
01:15:27,612 --> 01:15:29,492
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, Well let's just say it was you.

1600
01:15:34,893 --> 01:15:36,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that I mean And that's the thing.

1601
01:15:36,812 --> 01:15:39,333
Speaker 2: When you do lose your phone for whatever reason, maybe

1602
01:15:39,333 --> 01:15:40,612
Speaker 2: you've had a big night out. You wake up the

1603
01:15:40,652 --> 01:15:43,893
Speaker 2: next day you don't have your phone. You feel so

1604
01:15:44,772 --> 01:15:47,293
Speaker 2: hamstrung to sort out the problem. As you say, Jason,

1605
01:15:47,333 --> 01:15:49,452
Speaker 2: because you're like, everything you want to do to sort

1606
01:15:49,452 --> 01:15:52,093
Speaker 2: out your problem is in your phone. So everything that

1607
01:15:52,253 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 2: you would use to find your phone is in your

1608
01:15:55,973 --> 01:15:58,772
Speaker 2: phone to check if you lift it in an uber

1609
01:15:59,213 --> 01:16:01,892
Speaker 2: to wring someone for help.

1610
01:16:02,812 --> 01:16:03,933
Speaker 4: We are this.

1611
01:16:04,133 --> 01:16:05,732
Speaker 2: This is a really good push back on my idea

1612
01:16:05,772 --> 01:16:08,213
Speaker 2: that want everything in my phone is if you do

1613
01:16:08,452 --> 01:16:12,092
Speaker 2: lose your phone, you were and you are absolutely hamstrung.

1614
01:16:12,253 --> 01:16:16,372
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no, that's my main thing. Like you know,

1615
01:16:16,412 --> 01:16:18,892
Speaker 11: it's all very well and I use it for ninety

1616
01:16:18,933 --> 01:16:20,572
Speaker 11: percent of things, but I always carry a bit of

1617
01:16:20,612 --> 01:16:23,372
Speaker 11: folding and my wallet. And if you really want to

1618
01:16:23,412 --> 01:16:26,173
Speaker 11: carry something like your fib or your your your wallet

1619
01:16:26,173 --> 01:16:27,372
Speaker 11: and you don't want to lose it, put it in

1620
01:16:27,452 --> 01:16:29,333
Speaker 11: your front of your pocket and your jeenes because it

1621
01:16:29,452 --> 01:16:31,333
Speaker 11: never comes out of that little pocket in your front.

1622
01:16:31,452 --> 01:16:31,852
Speaker 9: Yah.

1623
01:16:32,293 --> 01:16:35,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to thanks Jason. You see, my thing is

1624
01:16:35,093 --> 01:16:39,213
Speaker 2: I'm so dangerously The only good thing about my phone addiction,

1625
01:16:39,812 --> 01:16:41,053
Speaker 2: and a lot of that is to do with the

1626
01:16:41,093 --> 01:16:43,412
Speaker 2: New York Times crosswords and such.

1627
01:16:43,372 --> 01:16:48,093
Speaker 3: Addictive connections and with a mini crossword hundred a minute.

1628
01:16:48,133 --> 01:16:49,933
Speaker 2: Yet I've done a couple under the minute. I had

1629
01:16:49,933 --> 01:16:51,933
Speaker 2: absolute blow out. Let's not talking about it today, but

1630
01:16:52,812 --> 01:16:55,173
Speaker 2: The one positive about my phone addiction is that I

1631
01:16:55,253 --> 01:16:56,732
Speaker 2: always sense when I don't have it on me.

1632
01:16:56,933 --> 01:16:59,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, love it. Seven to three. We're going to pick

1633
01:16:59,692 --> 01:17:02,293
Speaker 3: this up again very shortly. Oh one hundred and eighty

1634
01:17:02,333 --> 01:17:03,333
Speaker 3: ten eighties and number to call?

1635
01:17:03,572 --> 01:17:07,333
Speaker 2: Are you going full digital wallet? And tell us about

1636
01:17:07,372 --> 01:17:09,412
Speaker 2: how much you paid for you fob when it went missing,

1637
01:17:12,333 --> 01:17:14,492
Speaker 2: the issues that affect you, and a bit.

1638
01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:15,412
Speaker 4: Of fun along the way.

1639
01:17:15,652 --> 01:17:19,572
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation,

1640
01:17:19,812 --> 01:17:20,812
Speaker 1: Style and design.

1641
01:17:21,013 --> 01:17:22,132
Speaker 2: Have it all News.

1642
01:17:22,013 --> 01:17:26,333
Speaker 3: Talks B News Talk ZB it is five to three

1643
01:17:26,732 --> 01:17:28,293
Speaker 3: a couple of teachers of the news. Then we're going

1644
01:17:28,333 --> 01:17:30,253
Speaker 3: to pick it back up after three o'clock.

1645
01:17:30,853 --> 01:17:34,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, gaday fellas. I went to get a new keyfob

1646
01:17:34,173 --> 01:17:38,253
Speaker 2: for our VW two egg. Quote from VW New Zealand

1647
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:41,932
Speaker 2: was eighteen hundred dollars it out. Couldn't get it any cheaper.

1648
01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:44,732
Speaker 2: You can buy a replica for thirty dollars from TIMU,

1649
01:17:45,213 --> 01:17:47,532
Speaker 2: but VW won't program it for you. Yeah, I mean

1650
01:17:48,013 --> 01:17:51,092
Speaker 2: risky on TIMO. If you think about security, Tmu's rubbish.

1651
01:17:51,452 --> 01:17:53,452
Speaker 2: They say it has to come through the dealer. Would

1652
01:17:53,492 --> 01:17:55,892
Speaker 2: love to get an explanation from VW Dealer on why

1653
01:17:56,013 --> 01:17:59,972
Speaker 2: it cost eighteen one hundred dollars for a thirty dollar keyfob.

1654
01:18:00,372 --> 01:18:04,292
Speaker 2: I mean, what is eighteen hundred How is that even possible?

1655
01:18:04,732 --> 01:18:06,972
Speaker 3: That is insane? And eighteen hundred bucks for one.

1656
01:18:07,173 --> 01:18:11,293
Speaker 2: Keybobing that's doing pretty basic stuff that would.

1657
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:13,612
Speaker 3: Take them what probably five minutes just to program.

1658
01:18:13,853 --> 01:18:16,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, So is this someone that's doing this that can

1659
01:18:16,973 --> 01:18:18,933
Speaker 2: ring up and explain, because I've got a service to

1660
01:18:19,013 --> 01:18:20,333
Speaker 2: come around and do it for me once. It's like

1661
01:18:20,692 --> 01:18:24,972
Speaker 2: a locksmith come and you know, clone my fob. Yeah,

1662
01:18:25,093 --> 01:18:26,013
Speaker 2: and that costs a lot.

1663
01:18:26,333 --> 01:18:31,333
Speaker 3: Why racketeering operation going on? Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1664
01:18:31,412 --> 01:18:33,572
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety

1665
01:18:33,572 --> 01:18:36,732
Speaker 3: two is the text number. New sport and weather coming up.

1666
01:18:36,893 --> 01:18:40,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as well as these expensive fobs and digital keys,

1667
01:18:40,853 --> 01:18:42,652
Speaker 2: I want to hear from people that are running a

1668
01:18:42,692 --> 01:18:43,612
Speaker 2: full digital wallet.

1669
01:18:48,652 --> 01:18:52,852
Speaker 1: Your new homes are insightful and entertaining. Talk It's Mattie

1670
01:18:53,093 --> 01:18:57,053
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC eighty on

1671
01:18:57,253 --> 01:18:58,213
Speaker 1: News Talk SEV.

1672
01:18:58,893 --> 01:19:01,532
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back to the show. Seeven pass three

1673
01:19:01,572 --> 01:19:04,532
Speaker 3: and we're talking about digital car keys. It is the

1674
01:19:04,652 --> 01:19:08,133
Speaker 3: future more and more major car manufacturers looking into the

1675
01:19:08,333 --> 01:19:11,772
Speaker 3: digital car keys. They are more convenient, they say, by

1676
01:19:11,812 --> 01:19:16,053
Speaker 3: allowing drivers to unlock and start their vehicles using a smartphone. Matt,

1677
01:19:16,213 --> 01:19:18,812
Speaker 3: you love this idea because you are horribly addicted to

1678
01:19:18,853 --> 01:19:19,213
Speaker 3: your phone.

1679
01:19:19,333 --> 01:19:21,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, so I never leave it behind. I'm

1680
01:19:21,253 --> 01:19:23,213
Speaker 2: not happy about being horribly addicted to my phone, but

1681
01:19:23,652 --> 01:19:26,772
Speaker 2: I'm never going to lose it because I'll feel it

1682
01:19:26,933 --> 01:19:29,052
Speaker 2: in my soul if it's not with me for a second.

1683
01:19:29,772 --> 01:19:33,372
Speaker 2: Whereas you know, keys, you know, cards, all that kind

1684
01:19:33,412 --> 01:19:36,133
Speaker 2: of stuff, I can easily lose. Also, I just like

1685
01:19:36,213 --> 01:19:41,932
Speaker 2: having empty pockets. It seems ridiculous to have this fob

1686
01:19:42,013 --> 01:19:45,213
Speaker 2: of got here for my car that as people are

1687
01:19:45,532 --> 01:19:47,652
Speaker 2: texting in and ringing in saying, if you lose it

1688
01:19:48,213 --> 01:19:50,772
Speaker 2: can cost up to eighteen hundred dollars to replace. Yeah,

1689
01:19:51,173 --> 01:19:53,852
Speaker 2: or you know, seven hundred dollars as you paid because

1690
01:19:53,853 --> 01:19:55,652
Speaker 2: you didn't check that your insurance would pay for it. Yeah,

1691
01:19:55,772 --> 01:19:58,412
Speaker 2: but that just seems crazy because it is just the

1692
01:19:58,452 --> 01:20:02,732
Speaker 2: same thing, whether it's the the setup and the fob,

1693
01:20:02,933 --> 01:20:04,253
Speaker 2: or you have it as an app on your phone.

1694
01:20:04,732 --> 01:20:07,093
Speaker 2: What is the big difference. If anything, the phone is

1695
01:20:07,173 --> 01:20:07,892
Speaker 2: much more secure.

1696
01:20:08,013 --> 01:20:09,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel like I have. How do you

1697
01:20:09,652 --> 01:20:11,892
Speaker 3: lock your house though? When you when you leave the house,

1698
01:20:11,933 --> 01:20:14,732
Speaker 3: if you're not got like a massive chain digital? Oh,

1699
01:20:14,812 --> 01:20:15,333
Speaker 3: it's digital.

1700
01:20:15,452 --> 01:20:20,093
Speaker 2: It's digital in my house. I don't think it gives

1701
01:20:20,173 --> 01:20:20,692
Speaker 2: too much away.

1702
01:20:20,893 --> 01:20:22,652
Speaker 3: I thought I almost seed you there, I'll say that differently.

1703
01:20:24,333 --> 01:20:27,772
Speaker 3: There we go. You've confused a matter now, But keen

1704
01:20:27,812 --> 01:20:29,932
Speaker 3: to hear from you. I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1705
01:20:29,973 --> 01:20:32,133
Speaker 3: How do you feel about the idea of digital card keys?

1706
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:36,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the idea of a complete digital situation like

1707
01:20:36,333 --> 01:20:38,892
Speaker 2: I pay my credit cards and my IF poster all

1708
01:20:38,933 --> 01:20:43,133
Speaker 2: in my phone. Now that that's fantastic. I don't really

1709
01:20:43,333 --> 01:20:44,932
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm going to a concert, it's all

1710
01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:48,412
Speaker 2: in there. I don't really need to have a wallet anymore.

1711
01:20:48,452 --> 01:20:50,732
Speaker 3: And you must you must have a backup credit card

1712
01:20:50,732 --> 01:20:51,333
Speaker 3: when you go out.

1713
01:20:51,452 --> 01:20:53,532
Speaker 2: No, no, I just don't take it out with me.

1714
01:20:53,812 --> 01:20:57,412
Speaker 2: The credit card sits at home. Adam you, what are

1715
01:20:57,452 --> 01:20:58,093
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this?

1716
01:20:59,732 --> 01:20:59,932
Speaker 9: Well?

1717
01:21:00,253 --> 01:21:03,293
Speaker 6: Yeah, totally get the idea of him a key for

1718
01:21:03,372 --> 01:21:08,812
Speaker 6: your car. But Matt, yes, I got can't buy you

1719
01:21:09,013 --> 01:21:11,932
Speaker 6: the game running with the old digital elbow skins.

1720
01:21:12,412 --> 01:21:14,172
Speaker 7: But what do you deal with the driver's license?

1721
01:21:14,933 --> 01:21:17,253
Speaker 2: I see this is a problem. This is a problem, Adam.

1722
01:21:17,812 --> 01:21:21,612
Speaker 2: You've you've pointed out the big problem with this as

1723
01:21:22,253 --> 01:21:24,053
Speaker 2: and this happened to me. This really bit me in

1724
01:21:24,093 --> 01:21:26,852
Speaker 2: the butt, Adham. When I flew down to Queenstown recently

1725
01:21:27,772 --> 01:21:31,293
Speaker 2: last year and I was supposed to go, I was going,

1726
01:21:32,253 --> 01:21:35,013
Speaker 2: I had rented a house and Wonica and me and

1727
01:21:35,093 --> 01:21:37,253
Speaker 2: my kids were going over there. Arrived at the airport

1728
01:21:37,293 --> 01:21:40,692
Speaker 2: and I didn't have my license to get the rental car,

1729
01:21:41,492 --> 01:21:43,173
Speaker 2: and so I tried to show them pictures of my

1730
01:21:43,253 --> 01:21:45,293
Speaker 2: license from my phone and they're like, nah, you can't

1731
01:21:45,293 --> 01:21:47,492
Speaker 2: get the rental car. So it's this is a late

1732
01:21:47,572 --> 01:21:50,253
Speaker 2: flight into Queenstown, had to get a taxi from Queenstown

1733
01:21:50,492 --> 01:21:53,333
Speaker 2: to Wantica in the middle of the night, right right

1734
01:21:53,372 --> 01:21:53,972
Speaker 2: across the Crown.

1735
01:21:55,053 --> 01:21:56,452
Speaker 7: So you've just answered my question.

1736
01:21:56,812 --> 01:22:00,133
Speaker 19: I wondered if I could just leave my licensees home

1737
01:22:00,253 --> 01:22:01,532
Speaker 19: and to show the cops photo.

1738
01:22:03,093 --> 01:22:04,693
Speaker 7: Never tested it, but sounds.

1739
01:22:04,452 --> 01:22:06,652
Speaker 3: Like you have, yeah, And it was a massive fail

1740
01:22:06,732 --> 01:22:07,412
Speaker 3: by the sounds of it.

1741
01:22:07,572 --> 01:22:09,612
Speaker 2: Well, because because what of the rule the rules is,

1742
01:22:09,853 --> 01:22:11,572
Speaker 2: someone will tell me on eight hundred and eighteen eighty,

1743
01:22:11,612 --> 01:22:14,133
Speaker 2: So you're supposed to have your license on you at

1744
01:22:14,173 --> 01:22:16,333
Speaker 2: all times when you're driving Is that right, adam?

1745
01:22:17,213 --> 01:22:20,492
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's everthin sixteen. I've been told you've got to

1746
01:22:20,492 --> 01:22:21,333
Speaker 13: carry your license with.

1747
01:22:21,372 --> 01:22:22,052
Speaker 7: You at all times.

1748
01:22:22,532 --> 01:22:25,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, but are the police gonna make Are the police

1749
01:22:25,173 --> 01:22:27,173
Speaker 2: going to taser you and throw you in a cell

1750
01:22:27,293 --> 01:22:29,052
Speaker 2: for not having it if you show the picture to them.

1751
01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:31,692
Speaker 3: I'd expect, so you know that's not appropriate at all.

1752
01:22:31,732 --> 01:22:33,013
Speaker 3: They should be locking you up for that.

1753
01:22:35,772 --> 01:22:38,652
Speaker 2: Evention. But yeah, Adam, that very point you've made did

1754
01:22:38,812 --> 01:22:39,772
Speaker 2: bite me in the backside?

1755
01:22:40,093 --> 01:22:42,253
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure, as you say, someone will let us know.

1756
01:22:42,293 --> 01:22:44,213
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. The fine is fifty bucks if you

1757
01:22:44,213 --> 01:22:46,692
Speaker 3: don't have your license on you. So if you're okay

1758
01:22:46,812 --> 01:22:48,652
Speaker 3: to pay fifty bucks if you get pulled over and

1759
01:22:48,732 --> 01:22:50,133
Speaker 3: you can't present a license.

1760
01:22:49,893 --> 01:22:52,412
Speaker 2: Would it kill the government to organize a digital license?

1761
01:22:52,973 --> 01:22:55,293
Speaker 2: I mean, how hard has that to do? You know,

1762
01:22:55,572 --> 01:22:57,253
Speaker 2: just going to kill your government? If you're listening.

1763
01:22:57,412 --> 01:22:59,333
Speaker 3: They don't like digital anything, though, isn't it. We want

1764
01:22:59,372 --> 01:23:03,133
Speaker 3: digital voting, we want digital licenses, digital passports. Come on,

1765
01:23:03,572 --> 01:23:06,133
Speaker 3: they hate it, they absolutely hate it. Oh, eight hundred

1766
01:23:06,293 --> 01:23:09,213
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call? Quick? Couple

1767
01:23:09,293 --> 01:23:12,412
Speaker 3: of texts? Guys, what if your battery dies then you

1768
01:23:12,452 --> 01:23:13,213
Speaker 3: can't start your car.

1769
01:23:13,492 --> 01:23:16,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's true. You have to keep some

1770
01:23:16,893 --> 01:23:18,812
Speaker 2: you know, some battery. But you know what if the

1771
01:23:18,893 --> 01:23:21,253
Speaker 2: better in your car dies, what if you're jump into

1772
01:23:21,253 --> 01:23:23,013
Speaker 2: the water with you if someone did with their am

1773
01:23:23,173 --> 01:23:25,692
Speaker 2: rock keys in their pocket when I and destroy it?

1774
01:23:25,772 --> 01:23:27,012
Speaker 2: You know, what if? What if?

1775
01:23:27,053 --> 01:23:27,253
Speaker 4: What if?

1776
01:23:27,372 --> 01:23:28,812
Speaker 2: There is there are some things? You know, what if

1777
01:23:28,853 --> 01:23:29,492
Speaker 2: you lose your keys?

1778
01:23:29,692 --> 01:23:31,812
Speaker 3: Can you start on your Wii because you've got the

1779
01:23:31,812 --> 01:23:34,052
Speaker 3: Wi fob there and mines in my backpack and my locker.

1780
01:23:34,372 --> 01:23:36,452
Speaker 3: You've got a Wii analogue one that you can pull

1781
01:23:36,532 --> 01:23:36,732
Speaker 3: out of.

1782
01:23:36,893 --> 01:23:37,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, can't you?

1783
01:23:37,893 --> 01:23:39,772
Speaker 3: But then can you start your car? I don't think

1784
01:23:39,812 --> 01:23:40,093
Speaker 3: you can.

1785
01:23:41,013 --> 01:23:42,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Actually I think it would get

1786
01:23:42,933 --> 01:23:44,293
Speaker 2: me in. But I think the only way to start

1787
01:23:44,333 --> 01:23:46,893
Speaker 2: my car is the button. Yeah, yeah, I tell you what.

1788
01:23:46,973 --> 01:23:49,412
Speaker 2: With new cars, it's an absolute disaster. You've got to

1789
01:23:49,492 --> 01:23:52,253
Speaker 2: make sure, you know, if you run out of gas

1790
01:23:52,333 --> 01:23:56,213
Speaker 2: and a new car now with things like automat ACCT handbrakes, yep,

1791
01:23:56,612 --> 01:23:59,572
Speaker 2: and you know a bunch of computer stuff gets in

1792
01:23:59,612 --> 01:24:02,612
Speaker 2: the way from you just wheeling your car off the road.

1793
01:24:02,772 --> 01:24:03,333
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1794
01:24:03,452 --> 01:24:05,133
Speaker 3: Oh, if your battery dies and you try and jump

1795
01:24:05,173 --> 01:24:07,173
Speaker 3: start it yourself and you get it wrong cheap is

1796
01:24:07,452 --> 01:24:08,253
Speaker 3: you're gonna know about it?

1797
01:24:09,572 --> 01:24:13,333
Speaker 2: Alistair says, guys, I had sorry Tyler, you want to

1798
01:24:13,372 --> 01:24:13,572
Speaker 2: read it?

1799
01:24:13,692 --> 01:24:14,532
Speaker 3: No, no, you go for it.

1800
01:24:14,692 --> 01:24:16,933
Speaker 2: You wanted to read it. It's your one, Okay, you

1801
01:24:17,053 --> 01:24:19,213
Speaker 2: go for it. Thanks mate. Hey, guys, I had the

1802
01:24:19,293 --> 01:24:22,293
Speaker 2: unfortunate situation of my phone going down a long drop toilet,

1803
01:24:22,732 --> 01:24:25,612
Speaker 2: so best to have a backup plan. And yesterday for

1804
01:24:26,213 --> 01:24:29,412
Speaker 2: some reason, payWave wasn't working. Yeah, I mean your phone

1805
01:24:29,492 --> 01:24:33,532
Speaker 2: can go down, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, I mean

1806
01:24:33,572 --> 01:24:36,293
Speaker 2: a back up because you could so your partners could

1807
01:24:36,492 --> 01:24:40,812
Speaker 2: have a clone of your key on their phone, you know,

1808
01:24:40,893 --> 01:24:42,692
Speaker 2: if they've got the app as well. Because you can

1809
01:24:42,732 --> 01:24:44,372
Speaker 2: have that, you can have it on everyone's phone and

1810
01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:47,012
Speaker 2: your family. Yeah, and that's why it has these cool features,

1811
01:24:47,093 --> 01:24:48,732
Speaker 2: like you could just stop your kid from taking your

1812
01:24:48,772 --> 01:24:50,412
Speaker 2: car if you didn't want them to, by turning off

1813
01:24:50,532 --> 01:24:51,532
Speaker 2: their access to the car.

1814
01:24:51,692 --> 01:24:51,852
Speaker 4: You know.

1815
01:24:51,933 --> 01:24:53,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, great point.

1816
01:24:53,133 --> 01:24:53,253
Speaker 4: Right.

1817
01:24:53,293 --> 01:24:55,892
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1818
01:24:56,412 --> 01:24:58,692
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. It is

1819
01:24:58,812 --> 01:25:04,253
Speaker 3: thirteen past three, Good afternoon. We're talking about digital car keys.

1820
01:25:04,412 --> 01:25:08,093
Speaker 3: They are becoming more problem more more common, not problematic.

1821
01:25:08,492 --> 01:25:11,213
Speaker 3: They do offer convenience the car manufacturers saying, of course

1822
01:25:11,253 --> 01:25:13,572
Speaker 3: they would if they work by allowing drivers to unlock

1823
01:25:13,652 --> 01:25:16,572
Speaker 3: and start their vehicles using a smartphone, and Matt is

1824
01:25:16,652 --> 01:25:19,052
Speaker 3: trying to go fully digital as much as possible.

1825
01:25:19,133 --> 01:25:26,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And look, this is a good one.

1826
01:25:26,532 --> 01:25:29,173
Speaker 2: So you were saying before can you start your car

1827
01:25:29,253 --> 01:25:31,452
Speaker 2: if you've got the key? And then someone said you

1828
01:25:31,492 --> 01:25:34,412
Speaker 2: could press your key against the push starter button to

1829
01:25:34,492 --> 01:25:37,092
Speaker 2: start your car. How it works? But no, I think

1830
01:25:37,612 --> 01:25:39,732
Speaker 2: with my car key, if it doesn't detect that there's

1831
01:25:39,732 --> 01:25:42,093
Speaker 2: a car key in the car, then it won't start.

1832
01:25:42,412 --> 01:25:44,372
Speaker 2: So it has to detect the key as well, exactly.

1833
01:25:44,412 --> 01:25:45,732
Speaker 2: You know, it detects when I get close and it

1834
01:25:45,853 --> 01:25:48,732
Speaker 2: unlocks the doors. This is the fob I'm currently wanting,

1835
01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:51,053
Speaker 2: and then and then, but it has to be there.

1836
01:25:51,093 --> 01:25:54,012
Speaker 2: So I just don't think there's any difference really between

1837
01:25:54,053 --> 01:25:57,452
Speaker 2: having in a fob like this and having it as

1838
01:25:57,452 --> 01:25:59,372
Speaker 2: an app on your phone. I think that's just the

1839
01:25:59,412 --> 01:26:01,093
Speaker 2: way it's going to be going forward.

1840
01:26:01,173 --> 01:26:03,412
Speaker 3: I tend to agree, but that doesn't answer so with

1841
01:26:03,532 --> 01:26:05,372
Speaker 3: the analogue part that you pull out of the fob,

1842
01:26:05,452 --> 01:26:08,732
Speaker 3: most of them have it. There's no ignition put the

1843
01:26:08,812 --> 01:26:09,572
Speaker 3: analog key.

1844
01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:11,253
Speaker 2: Into so you can't start it, so that'll get you

1845
01:26:11,293 --> 01:26:13,333
Speaker 2: into your car. Yeah, and at that point you can

1846
01:26:13,412 --> 01:26:16,173
Speaker 2: eat the sunglasses or whatever out of it if you

1847
01:26:16,772 --> 01:26:19,172
Speaker 2: a problem. But yeah, you know you're still straightted.

1848
01:26:19,692 --> 01:26:22,732
Speaker 3: I think I have gone into the digital car key column.

1849
01:26:22,772 --> 01:26:22,892
Speaker 19: Now.

1850
01:26:23,093 --> 01:26:24,133
Speaker 3: They sound like a good idea.

1851
01:26:26,412 --> 01:26:28,732
Speaker 2: Michael, what's your take on this?

1852
01:26:30,293 --> 01:26:31,452
Speaker 21: Yeah, Hi, guys, can hear me.

1853
01:26:31,692 --> 01:26:35,412
Speaker 2: I can hear you loud and clear, Michael, no worries.

1854
01:26:36,013 --> 01:26:36,213
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1855
01:26:36,293 --> 01:26:39,092
Speaker 21: So I drive a EV and I use my phone

1856
01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:41,893
Speaker 21: as everything for the car. So I just want to

1857
01:26:41,933 --> 01:26:44,772
Speaker 21: give my twenty cents on the matter. You know, when

1858
01:26:44,812 --> 01:26:47,692
Speaker 21: you forget your car keys at home, or well your

1859
01:26:47,732 --> 01:26:49,772
Speaker 21: phone at home, you're stuck in the mud. So that's

1860
01:26:49,812 --> 01:26:52,133
Speaker 21: when you know your phone is always there for when

1861
01:26:52,173 --> 01:26:53,612
Speaker 21: you need it, especially if you use it as a

1862
01:26:53,692 --> 01:26:57,333
Speaker 21: car fop. But that's always why I take the car. Well,

1863
01:26:57,372 --> 01:27:01,213
Speaker 21: you get a credit card essentially that acts like a

1864
01:27:01,412 --> 01:27:05,652
Speaker 21: key for the card the car to operate. But I

1865
01:27:05,812 --> 01:27:08,652
Speaker 21: just want to say it's so convenient because I don't

1866
01:27:08,692 --> 01:27:11,372
Speaker 21: need to carry keys at all. You know, the car

1867
01:27:11,652 --> 01:27:15,173
Speaker 21: the house door, uses the code to go into the car,

1868
01:27:15,372 --> 01:27:18,212
Speaker 21: uses your phone to unlock and open and to activate

1869
01:27:18,253 --> 01:27:22,412
Speaker 21: and start, and I don't see the security problems with that,

1870
01:27:22,572 --> 01:27:25,253
Speaker 21: because on my phone, on the app that links to

1871
01:27:25,372 --> 01:27:28,333
Speaker 21: the car, I can track and monitor the status of

1872
01:27:28,412 --> 01:27:32,133
Speaker 21: the car and its location at all times. So it's

1873
01:27:32,213 --> 01:27:36,053
Speaker 21: kind of no point in worrying about security. So, you know,

1874
01:27:36,532 --> 01:27:39,093
Speaker 21: it just makes life so much more convenient. And you know,

1875
01:27:39,532 --> 01:27:41,532
Speaker 21: in the worst case, when I need to get on

1876
01:27:41,612 --> 01:27:44,572
Speaker 21: the ferry to go through Waiki Island and somebody needs

1877
01:27:44,612 --> 01:27:47,532
Speaker 21: to get my car, I can remotely give them access

1878
01:27:47,652 --> 01:27:50,932
Speaker 21: to my car for a period of time, so they can,

1879
01:27:51,013 --> 01:27:53,213
Speaker 21: you know, come and pick me up at the ferry terminal.

1880
01:27:53,372 --> 01:27:55,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand the secure I'm with you, Michael,

1881
01:27:55,372 --> 01:27:58,133
Speaker 2: I don't understand the security concerns because if you just

1882
01:27:58,213 --> 01:28:00,293
Speaker 2: have a fob to open it, right, that is just

1883
01:28:00,372 --> 01:28:02,412
Speaker 2: a physical thing. Anyone that's got it compress the thing.

1884
01:28:02,893 --> 01:28:04,973
Speaker 2: But to get into your phone, they're going to have

1885
01:28:05,013 --> 01:28:09,133
Speaker 2: to go through your password or face ID. So the

1886
01:28:09,293 --> 01:28:11,933
Speaker 2: digital key in your phone has already got layers of

1887
01:28:11,973 --> 01:28:17,452
Speaker 2: security that the current the current fob situation doesn't help, yeah, exactly.

1888
01:28:17,572 --> 01:28:19,412
Speaker 21: And the car, when you get in the car, you

1889
01:28:19,532 --> 01:28:22,572
Speaker 21: open it, it requires you to add a pass key

1890
01:28:22,893 --> 01:28:26,093
Speaker 21: before you can actually activate the vehicle. So even if

1891
01:28:26,133 --> 01:28:28,372
Speaker 21: they got through your phone and activated the car, they

1892
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:30,293
Speaker 21: still need to get your pass key. And you know

1893
01:28:30,412 --> 01:28:33,812
Speaker 21: that's just another layer of security, which you know, it's

1894
01:28:33,893 --> 01:28:36,133
Speaker 21: kind of points is trying to feal a vehicle these days.

1895
01:28:36,293 --> 01:28:39,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so Michael, does your you know, so on

1896
01:28:39,492 --> 01:28:43,053
Speaker 2: your on your car, does it have proximity opening so

1897
01:28:43,133 --> 01:28:45,333
Speaker 2: when you get close, it just opens up because it's

1898
01:28:45,333 --> 01:28:46,612
Speaker 2: detected that your phone is near it.

1899
01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:49,532
Speaker 21: And that's the best part. You know, my phone is

1900
01:28:49,572 --> 01:28:52,053
Speaker 21: always worth me because I'm very I know, I know

1901
01:28:52,173 --> 01:28:53,852
Speaker 21: you guys are right. You know, if you lose your phone,

1902
01:28:53,893 --> 01:28:56,173
Speaker 21: you lose half your life because everything is on your phone.

1903
01:28:56,492 --> 01:28:58,492
Speaker 21: So that's one of the most important things you need

1904
01:28:58,572 --> 01:29:01,053
Speaker 21: to look after is look after your phone. Don't lose it,

1905
01:29:01,133 --> 01:29:04,533
Speaker 21: don't be reckless, don't just leave it behind. But regardless,

1906
01:29:04,612 --> 01:29:07,652
Speaker 21: it opens up when I get to the car. It

1907
01:29:07,812 --> 01:29:11,492
Speaker 21: closes automatically when I leave the car. And sometimes I

1908
01:29:11,572 --> 01:29:14,053
Speaker 21: go away for work and get loan vehicles from the

1909
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:16,772
Speaker 21: airport and I forget to lock the car because I'm

1910
01:29:16,812 --> 01:29:19,293
Speaker 21: so used to my car just reacting to my phone.

1911
01:29:19,372 --> 01:29:22,652
Speaker 21: That's on me always that I need to think about

1912
01:29:22,692 --> 01:29:24,532
Speaker 21: this because now I need to actually use a fob

1913
01:29:24,652 --> 01:29:26,973
Speaker 21: key to lock the car or press a button on

1914
01:29:27,053 --> 01:29:27,892
Speaker 21: the car for it to lock.

1915
01:29:28,412 --> 01:29:31,652
Speaker 2: And so if someone did get your phone and walk

1916
01:29:31,732 --> 01:29:34,692
Speaker 2: towards the car, that would still open it. So someone

1917
01:29:34,732 --> 01:29:36,253
Speaker 2: had nipt your phone, it would open it. But when

1918
01:29:36,293 --> 01:29:37,772
Speaker 2: they got into your car, they wouldn't be able to

1919
01:29:37,772 --> 01:29:39,333
Speaker 2: start it because they wouldn't.

1920
01:29:38,973 --> 01:29:42,372
Speaker 21: Have the code exactly exactly, they can't get anywhere.

1921
01:29:42,732 --> 01:29:45,012
Speaker 3: So just just walk me through how if someone wants

1922
01:29:45,133 --> 01:29:47,412
Speaker 3: to drive your car, or you want to loan your

1923
01:29:47,452 --> 01:29:49,133
Speaker 3: car out, or you take it them for service n

1924
01:29:49,213 --> 01:29:51,333
Speaker 3: or to the mechanic. How does that work? So you

1925
01:29:51,572 --> 01:29:53,412
Speaker 3: give them a code to your key?

1926
01:29:54,652 --> 01:29:54,692
Speaker 12: No?

1927
01:29:55,013 --> 01:29:57,092
Speaker 21: No, I just go on my app and I activate

1928
01:29:57,173 --> 01:29:59,852
Speaker 21: the car to be usable for a certain period of time.

1929
01:30:00,253 --> 01:30:04,093
Speaker 21: Car right, smarteah, And then it allows them access to

1930
01:30:04,213 --> 01:30:06,732
Speaker 21: use the car, and I can still monitor and track everything.

1931
01:30:06,812 --> 01:30:08,852
Speaker 21: I can see the speed they're driving, I can see

1932
01:30:08,853 --> 01:30:10,893
Speaker 21: what they're doing, and I even have a camera in

1933
01:30:10,973 --> 01:30:12,892
Speaker 21: the car that I can actually look at what's doing.

1934
01:30:13,093 --> 01:30:14,053
Speaker 3: It's a tesla, is it?

1935
01:30:15,093 --> 01:30:15,293
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1936
01:30:15,333 --> 01:30:15,532
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1937
01:30:15,572 --> 01:30:17,133
Speaker 2: Are they doing anything? Have you ever caught anyone doing

1938
01:30:17,133 --> 01:30:18,013
Speaker 2: anything interesting in the car?

1939
01:30:19,572 --> 01:30:19,612
Speaker 5: No.

1940
01:30:19,732 --> 01:30:21,892
Speaker 21: I always blocked the speed limit to eighty so if

1941
01:30:21,933 --> 01:30:24,452
Speaker 21: I least somebody use the vehicle. I just blocked the

1942
01:30:24,492 --> 01:30:27,492
Speaker 21: speed because I can control that, so they can't faster

1943
01:30:27,572 --> 01:30:29,652
Speaker 21: than eighty just so that they don't get any speed phones.

1944
01:30:30,293 --> 01:30:31,892
Speaker 2: And if they do something wrong, can you just send

1945
01:30:31,933 --> 01:30:34,013
Speaker 2: them home, put them on auto CUPI lock them out

1946
01:30:35,213 --> 01:30:37,492
Speaker 2: to the police, bring them around to your house for

1947
01:30:38,053 --> 01:30:38,652
Speaker 2: a seeing too.

1948
01:30:41,812 --> 01:30:42,012
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1949
01:30:42,853 --> 01:30:43,652
Speaker 9: I think it's the way to go.

1950
01:30:43,772 --> 01:30:46,652
Speaker 21: You know, it's so convenient. And yeah, I do understand

1951
01:30:46,692 --> 01:30:49,572
Speaker 21: the prices of keyfobs if you're unfortunately to lose it,

1952
01:30:49,933 --> 01:30:52,052
Speaker 21: it's so expensive and it's just a hassle.

1953
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:55,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so and of course this control on your phone,

1954
01:30:55,772 --> 01:30:57,492
Speaker 2: that's just stand up with the car. You're not paying

1955
01:30:57,652 --> 01:30:59,852
Speaker 2: paying anything at all for that. So and it can

1956
01:30:59,933 --> 01:31:02,973
Speaker 2: never be locked, so you know, because even if you

1957
01:31:03,053 --> 01:31:04,652
Speaker 2: lose your phone, then you'll just get a new phone.

1958
01:31:04,652 --> 01:31:08,892
Speaker 2: And then you the download the app again and register.

1959
01:31:09,133 --> 01:31:11,572
Speaker 21: Yeah you can actually, if you have a spouse or

1960
01:31:11,652 --> 01:31:13,452
Speaker 21: other people that used the vehicle, you can just have

1961
01:31:13,612 --> 01:31:17,213
Speaker 21: them are done with the app and register your vehicle.

1962
01:31:17,293 --> 01:31:19,572
Speaker 21: So they can also use their phones as a key

1963
01:31:19,652 --> 01:31:22,572
Speaker 21: to your car. So your wife or if you have asbend.

1964
01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:25,812
Speaker 21: You know, everybody uses the same yeah phone or app

1965
01:31:26,412 --> 01:31:27,012
Speaker 21: to the vehicle.

1966
01:31:27,213 --> 01:31:29,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fantastic, Thank you so much. Michael so I

1967
01:31:29,612 --> 01:31:31,452
Speaker 2: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty Are you open to

1968
01:31:31,532 --> 01:31:34,612
Speaker 2: this going fully digital so everything's on your phone, your

1969
01:31:34,933 --> 01:31:38,293
Speaker 2: credit cards and even the keys to your car are

1970
01:31:38,372 --> 01:31:40,093
Speaker 2: on your phone or are you worried about that?

1971
01:31:40,333 --> 01:31:40,492
Speaker 4: Yep?

1972
01:31:40,612 --> 01:31:42,772
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you I eight hundred eighty ten

1973
01:31:42,812 --> 01:31:44,372
Speaker 3: eighty supplementary question.

1974
01:31:44,732 --> 01:31:48,012
Speaker 2: Why the hells is replacing a fob cost eighteen hundred dollars?

1975
01:31:48,053 --> 01:31:50,612
Speaker 2: Sometimes we haven't heard from someone to explain that situation.

1976
01:31:50,772 --> 01:31:54,333
Speaker 2: How can cloning a key possibly cost that much?

1977
01:31:54,333 --> 01:31:56,852
Speaker 3: There's a massive conspiracy there. Love to hear from you. Oh,

1978
01:31:56,853 --> 01:31:59,292
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty twenty two Parts three.

1979
01:32:03,492 --> 01:32:07,133
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1980
01:32:07,253 --> 01:32:08,333
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used.

1981
01:32:08,173 --> 01:32:12,293
Speaker 3: To good afternoon, twenty four past three, and we're talking

1982
01:32:12,333 --> 01:32:15,812
Speaker 3: about the rise of digital car keys. They're becoming more common.

1983
01:32:15,893 --> 01:32:19,772
Speaker 3: They are pretty convenient. You can just unlock or start

1984
01:32:19,812 --> 01:32:23,293
Speaker 3: your vehicle using a smartphone. And it's not the only

1985
01:32:23,412 --> 01:32:25,732
Speaker 3: thing that we can input into our smartphone these days.

1986
01:32:25,772 --> 01:32:30,213
Speaker 3: Pretty much everything. Your credit cards, can't get your driver's

1987
01:32:30,293 --> 01:32:32,812
Speaker 3: license yet. Yeah, I hope the government gets on board.

1988
01:32:32,612 --> 01:32:34,772
Speaker 2: With that sort that out government. You know, you can

1989
01:32:34,893 --> 01:32:36,293
Speaker 2: get a picture of it, but that's not good enough.

1990
01:32:36,412 --> 01:32:40,133
Speaker 2: As I tried it at the budget rentals and then

1991
01:32:40,853 --> 01:32:43,012
Speaker 2: at Queen's out Hereport they wouldn't accept the picture my phone.

1992
01:32:43,213 --> 01:32:45,892
Speaker 2: You guys, crack me up. Convenient laugh laf love lave, love,

1993
01:32:45,973 --> 01:32:48,093
Speaker 2: love love. How hard is it to unlock a door

1994
01:32:48,253 --> 01:32:50,213
Speaker 2: or put the key in? The agnition, I'll stick to

1995
01:32:50,253 --> 01:32:54,772
Speaker 2: my eighty nine land Cruiser or my escort. Thanks, I see,

1996
01:32:54,893 --> 01:32:57,133
Speaker 2: not that kind of escort, right, And then we wonder

1997
01:32:57,213 --> 01:33:00,372
Speaker 2: why kids can't even wipe their noses. Yeah, I mean

1998
01:33:00,452 --> 01:33:02,412
Speaker 2: it's true. I mean, it isn't that hard, is it really?

1999
01:33:02,572 --> 01:33:05,933
Speaker 3: No, it isn't actually that hard that much time to

2000
01:33:05,973 --> 01:33:06,852
Speaker 3: your nay, does it really?

2001
01:33:06,933 --> 01:33:09,852
Speaker 2: But you know, the thing is if you do lose

2002
01:33:09,893 --> 01:33:12,732
Speaker 2: your keys, and even super smart people like you Tyler

2003
01:33:12,812 --> 01:33:14,372
Speaker 2: have lost lost their keys and had to pay seven

2004
01:33:14,452 --> 01:33:16,532
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to get the fob replaced, I'll tell me

2005
01:33:16,732 --> 01:33:19,652
Speaker 2: not the keys on the eighty nine land Cruiser, because

2006
01:33:19,652 --> 01:33:21,652
Speaker 2: that is I don't imagine those keys would cost that

2007
01:33:21,772 --> 01:33:22,372
Speaker 2: much to replace.

2008
01:33:22,572 --> 01:33:23,932
Speaker 3: How do you do it? I mean, for the people

2009
01:33:24,093 --> 01:33:26,013
Speaker 3: that like to go for a run. For example, you're

2010
01:33:26,013 --> 01:33:28,852
Speaker 3: not going to carry your massive key chain in your

2011
01:33:28,893 --> 01:33:30,293
Speaker 3: pocket while you're going for a run. And you kind

2012
01:33:30,333 --> 01:33:32,013
Speaker 3: of have to write even with a fop and I've

2013
01:33:32,013 --> 01:33:33,972
Speaker 3: got to take my fob off every time I want

2014
01:33:34,013 --> 01:33:34,892
Speaker 3: to go out for a wee run.

2015
01:33:34,973 --> 01:33:35,173
Speaker 1: It is.

2016
01:33:35,213 --> 01:33:35,932
Speaker 3: It's pain in the butt.

2017
01:33:36,732 --> 01:33:45,253
Speaker 2: Mary Anne, you do not support going fully digital. I understand, Marianne.

2018
01:33:47,013 --> 01:33:52,532
Speaker 2: Marian Mary, she is there.

2019
01:33:52,692 --> 01:33:55,492
Speaker 3: I mean she's maybe she didn't like us singing that much.

2020
01:33:55,572 --> 01:33:56,052
Speaker 8: Marianne.

2021
01:33:56,893 --> 01:33:58,892
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna we're gonna come back to Marianne.

2022
01:34:00,692 --> 01:34:01,053
Speaker 12: What is that?

2023
01:34:01,253 --> 01:34:01,372
Speaker 5: Is that?

2024
01:34:01,532 --> 01:34:06,013
Speaker 2: That songs by Leonard Cohen? Isn't it? Well, Marianne, I.

2025
01:34:06,133 --> 01:34:09,692
Speaker 3: Just followed you or Lee, It's sounded really good. Oh wait, hello,

2026
01:34:10,173 --> 01:34:10,612
Speaker 3: there we go.

2027
01:34:10,893 --> 01:34:14,173
Speaker 22: Sorry, Hey, thanks guys. Hey listen.

2028
01:34:14,173 --> 01:34:14,972
Speaker 2: A couple of points.

2029
01:34:15,133 --> 01:34:19,732
Speaker 22: I went traveling recently, and it wasn't infrequent that although

2030
01:34:19,812 --> 01:34:23,612
Speaker 22: the machines looked like they took payWave, the people wanted

2031
01:34:23,732 --> 01:34:26,772
Speaker 22: your physical card. This was like India, Sri Lanka, a

2032
01:34:26,812 --> 01:34:30,133
Speaker 22: couple other places. So I don't know, it's because they

2033
01:34:30,173 --> 01:34:34,293
Speaker 22: didn't want to pay a payWave you know charge, which

2034
01:34:34,412 --> 01:34:36,572
Speaker 22: you know we get now here in New Zealand. You know,

2035
01:34:36,692 --> 01:34:39,252
Speaker 22: do you accept an extra amount if you use payWave.

2036
01:34:39,293 --> 01:34:41,133
Speaker 22: I don't know if that was the reason or whether

2037
01:34:41,213 --> 01:34:43,093
Speaker 22: in some places they're just not set up for it.

2038
01:34:43,213 --> 01:34:46,612
Speaker 22: So it was very useful to have the physical cards

2039
01:34:46,652 --> 01:34:50,173
Speaker 22: as well as the digital ones on my machine. The

2040
01:34:50,253 --> 01:34:54,053
Speaker 22: other thing is the app, which was really useful. I

2041
01:34:54,133 --> 01:34:57,173
Speaker 22: actually lost one of my visas and I was able

2042
01:34:57,253 --> 01:34:59,532
Speaker 22: to go into the app for A and Z and

2043
01:34:59,732 --> 01:35:01,852
Speaker 22: switch it on and off, so that if somebody had

2044
01:35:01,933 --> 01:35:04,372
Speaker 22: found it. It was really good. I mean I could

2045
01:35:04,412 --> 01:35:08,612
Speaker 22: still use it. I didn't have to completely in it,

2046
01:35:09,293 --> 01:35:11,812
Speaker 22: but if I knew I had to pay or wanted

2047
01:35:11,812 --> 01:35:13,932
Speaker 22: to pay something with that card, I could just unlock

2048
01:35:14,013 --> 01:35:15,973
Speaker 22: it for you know, a minute or two and then

2049
01:35:16,053 --> 01:35:19,092
Speaker 22: lock it back up. So I think the digital things

2050
01:35:19,133 --> 01:35:23,492
Speaker 22: are very clever, but I don't think, particularly if you're traveling,

2051
01:35:23,853 --> 01:35:25,293
Speaker 22: you should rely on them alone.

2052
01:35:25,612 --> 01:35:27,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd be bold just to take your phone,

2053
01:35:28,053 --> 01:35:31,492
Speaker 2: and especially if you're traveling to somewhere like India and

2054
01:35:31,652 --> 01:35:34,612
Speaker 2: just expect everyone to be able to to run the

2055
01:35:34,652 --> 01:35:38,293
Speaker 2: payWave situation on your phone. But did you did you

2056
01:35:38,333 --> 01:35:39,852
Speaker 2: get did you find your credit card again?

2057
01:35:40,492 --> 01:35:40,532
Speaker 5: No?

2058
01:35:40,732 --> 01:35:42,772
Speaker 22: I never did, actually, so when I got home, I

2059
01:35:42,893 --> 01:35:44,492
Speaker 22: canceled it and got a new art. I don't know

2060
01:35:44,532 --> 01:35:44,972
Speaker 22: what happened.

2061
01:35:45,013 --> 01:35:47,173
Speaker 2: I must have dropped it because you could turn it

2062
01:35:47,253 --> 01:35:49,053
Speaker 2: off for anyone trying to use it had no luck.

2063
01:35:49,853 --> 01:35:52,213
Speaker 22: They had nobody tried to use it. I don't think.

2064
01:35:52,293 --> 01:35:55,253
Speaker 22: I mean, you know, there was no calls from me

2065
01:35:55,372 --> 01:35:57,412
Speaker 22: and Z saying, oh, have you just tried to buy

2066
01:35:57,492 --> 01:35:57,932
Speaker 22: a car?

2067
01:35:58,213 --> 01:36:01,532
Speaker 20: And you know, Luce or something like that.

2068
01:36:02,692 --> 01:36:05,852
Speaker 8: So I think I just I just dropped it somewhere,

2069
01:36:05,973 --> 01:36:06,093
Speaker 8: you know.

2070
01:36:06,973 --> 01:36:10,173
Speaker 2: But say in the future, Marianne, like down the track,

2071
01:36:10,412 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 2: when everyone's got that and the technology has moved on

2072
01:36:13,372 --> 01:36:15,572
Speaker 2: to the point it is now where you expect people

2073
01:36:15,612 --> 01:36:18,173
Speaker 2: to be able to take f bos everywhere. Do you

2074
01:36:18,412 --> 01:36:21,692
Speaker 2: like the idea of having a completely digital setup so

2075
01:36:21,853 --> 01:36:24,572
Speaker 2: you only have to have your phone and that'll get

2076
01:36:24,572 --> 01:36:26,213
Speaker 2: you into a car, that'll get you into a house

2077
01:36:26,253 --> 01:36:27,732
Speaker 2: that you can pay for everything on it. It's got

2078
01:36:27,732 --> 01:36:29,732
Speaker 2: your driver's license on it's got your passport on it.

2079
01:36:30,812 --> 01:36:35,253
Speaker 22: No, No, I don't. Actually, I think it's still useful

2080
01:36:35,333 --> 01:36:38,333
Speaker 22: to have the physical card. I mean, for example, you're

2081
01:36:38,372 --> 01:36:41,972
Speaker 22: saying everything's digital, but you know I had to actually

2082
01:36:42,053 --> 01:36:44,732
Speaker 22: go into banks and use my credit card in a

2083
01:36:44,853 --> 01:36:48,732
Speaker 22: machine to get cash. I can't see that change in

2084
01:36:48,812 --> 01:36:53,852
Speaker 22: any time fast, because you know, that's just it's a

2085
01:36:53,933 --> 01:36:57,492
Speaker 22: long way off that and that's not just somewhere like India,

2086
01:36:57,572 --> 01:37:00,333
Speaker 22: that's anywhere, and you know the States or Europe. You

2087
01:37:00,492 --> 01:37:02,572
Speaker 22: need a card if you're going to go and get money.

2088
01:37:04,452 --> 01:37:07,372
Speaker 22: So no, I don't see it happening anytime soon. And

2089
01:37:07,612 --> 01:37:11,532
Speaker 22: I buy those little you know, scan of protector envelope

2090
01:37:11,572 --> 01:37:13,933
Speaker 22: so you can put your credit card inside them so

2091
01:37:14,053 --> 01:37:17,293
Speaker 22: that you know, there used to be people would use

2092
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:21,452
Speaker 22: a machine and they could read your card, so you know,

2093
01:37:21,492 --> 01:37:23,253
Speaker 22: I try to be careful with it, but I can't

2094
01:37:23,293 --> 01:37:26,013
Speaker 22: see them ever being completely well, not not for a

2095
01:37:26,133 --> 01:37:30,253
Speaker 22: very long time, completely replaced. And just finally I had

2096
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:33,093
Speaker 22: the same thing at Queenstown Airport where I turned up

2097
01:37:33,173 --> 01:37:37,492
Speaker 22: and just by dumb luck, I actually had my driver's

2098
01:37:37,652 --> 01:37:40,732
Speaker 22: silence with me. But you know, it never occurred to

2099
01:37:40,812 --> 01:37:43,173
Speaker 22: me that i'd need it to hire a car.

2100
01:37:43,652 --> 01:37:48,412
Speaker 2: I forgot good reminder. Yeah, all right, thank you so much,

2101
01:37:48,812 --> 01:37:53,132
Speaker 2: So long maran, great vocal.

2102
01:37:54,133 --> 01:37:54,692
Speaker 3: That's lovely.

2103
01:37:54,933 --> 01:37:56,572
Speaker 2: I was actually almost hitting the chain. You tried to

2104
01:37:56,612 --> 01:37:58,652
Speaker 2: harmonize and you just were so flat then, Tyler that

2105
01:37:58,692 --> 01:38:02,333
Speaker 2: you ran that was actually quite a good fare. Well

2106
01:38:02,572 --> 01:38:03,652
Speaker 2: to Marianne, we.

2107
01:38:03,692 --> 01:38:05,572
Speaker 3: Didn't actually ask what she thought about our singing.

2108
01:38:05,973 --> 01:38:09,412
Speaker 2: Well, my singing was good and that's quite I think

2109
01:38:09,452 --> 01:38:10,092
Speaker 2: that's objective.

2110
01:38:10,133 --> 01:38:11,732
Speaker 3: Can we get Mary an Beck and just get a

2111
01:38:11,812 --> 01:38:15,013
Speaker 3: review on that? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

2112
01:38:15,133 --> 01:38:19,092
Speaker 3: the number to call? Are you all for going fully

2113
01:38:19,173 --> 01:38:21,093
Speaker 3: digital on the back of these car keys that are

2114
01:38:21,133 --> 01:38:23,772
Speaker 3: now digital on your phone? Or do you still like analog?

2115
01:38:23,893 --> 01:38:26,293
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number? It is

2116
01:38:26,532 --> 01:38:27,412
Speaker 3: twenty nine to four.

2117
01:38:30,333 --> 01:38:33,892
Speaker 15: Jus talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis, It's

2118
01:38:34,013 --> 01:38:37,132
Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble Fine art A councilors

2119
01:38:37,173 --> 01:38:40,412
Speaker 15: are holding an emotion filled meeting to discuss their Ministry

2120
01:38:40,452 --> 01:38:44,732
Speaker 15: of Health fluoridations standoff as this month's deadline looms.

2121
01:38:45,133 --> 01:38:49,173
Speaker 16: One councilor characterized it as people poisoning themselves, while another

2122
01:38:49,253 --> 01:38:53,812
Speaker 16: pointed out decades old pair reviewed evidence backs treating water.

2123
01:38:54,692 --> 01:38:58,052
Speaker 16: Trade Minister Todd McLay is promising Kiwis and the dairy

2124
01:38:58,133 --> 01:39:02,253
Speaker 16: industry to get the best deal possible with India. Negotiations

2125
01:39:02,412 --> 01:39:06,612
Speaker 16: will start next month. Real Estate Institute figures show how

2126
01:39:06,772 --> 01:39:11,173
Speaker 16: sales levels are again relatively stable across the country, rising

2127
01:39:11,253 --> 01:39:14,612
Speaker 16: three point four percent annually to a median of seven

2128
01:39:14,732 --> 01:39:19,372
Speaker 16: hundred and seventy two thousand dollars. Monaco Supercenter, the biggest

2129
01:39:19,732 --> 01:39:22,772
Speaker 16: large format shopping center to go on the block, is

2130
01:39:22,893 --> 01:39:26,372
Speaker 16: again up for sale after eighteen years, valued at one

2131
01:39:26,492 --> 01:39:30,852
Speaker 16: hundred and fifty million dollars. The US continues to be

2132
01:39:30,973 --> 01:39:34,772
Speaker 16: battered by storms, with dozens killed, power cut to hundreds

2133
01:39:34,772 --> 01:39:39,573
Speaker 16: of thousands, tornado and flood warnings and wildfires in Oklahoma.

2134
01:39:40,652 --> 01:39:44,573
Speaker 16: Forget the bomb squad, The Crusaders prove Rugby should be beautiful.

2135
01:39:44,933 --> 01:39:48,452
Speaker 16: See forgifits full column. It ends at Herald Premium. Back

2136
01:39:48,492 --> 01:39:50,452
Speaker 16: to matte Ethan Tyler Adams.

2137
01:39:50,612 --> 01:39:52,652
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, And we're talking about

2138
01:39:52,692 --> 01:39:55,892
Speaker 3: digital car keys. They are becoming more common with more

2139
01:39:55,973 --> 01:40:00,293
Speaker 3: major car manufacturers utilizing them for new vehicles. It's effectively

2140
01:40:00,612 --> 01:40:02,133
Speaker 3: a car key on your phone.

2141
01:40:02,612 --> 01:40:05,052
Speaker 2: Tyler, you run one of those humiliating sort of wallet

2142
01:40:05,173 --> 01:40:06,692
Speaker 2: situations that wraps around your phone.

2143
01:40:06,812 --> 01:40:10,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice, isn't it. It's effectively So look these

2144
01:40:10,213 --> 01:40:13,093
Speaker 3: might drive his license front and center, so and look

2145
01:40:13,133 --> 01:40:15,293
Speaker 3: at this that comes off there. I mean, I've got

2146
01:40:15,333 --> 01:40:18,253
Speaker 3: to explain it to everybody listening. It's effectively a phone case.

2147
01:40:19,452 --> 01:40:21,772
Speaker 3: And like a little man bag wallet situation going on.

2148
01:40:21,973 --> 01:40:27,012
Speaker 2: It's basically the size of a brick. It's absolutely huge

2149
01:40:27,213 --> 01:40:28,052
Speaker 2: and very nerdy.

2150
01:40:28,333 --> 01:40:30,933
Speaker 3: But like you, I know when I don't have it

2151
01:40:31,013 --> 01:40:32,772
Speaker 3: on me because it's so frick and massive.

2152
01:40:32,893 --> 01:40:35,732
Speaker 2: But wouldn't you rather all that stuff just went inside

2153
01:40:35,812 --> 01:40:37,412
Speaker 2: your phone and then you wouldn't have to have the

2154
01:40:37,532 --> 01:40:40,133
Speaker 2: humiliating little leather case around it. It would be handy

2155
01:40:40,333 --> 01:40:40,772
Speaker 2: as it is.

2156
01:40:40,853 --> 01:40:42,772
Speaker 3: I mean, I do feel like a real muppet when

2157
01:40:42,772 --> 01:40:44,372
Speaker 3: I'm at the checkout and I'm trying to find the

2158
01:40:44,452 --> 01:40:45,012
Speaker 3: right card.

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01:40:45,213 --> 01:40:45,772
Speaker 19: Is it that one?

2160
01:40:45,933 --> 01:40:46,452
Speaker 3: Is that one?

2161
01:40:47,452 --> 01:40:51,572
Speaker 2: Guys? This one? This text fully digital never New World Order?

2162
01:40:51,692 --> 01:40:53,972
Speaker 2: Next thing barcodes tattooed on the back of your neck.

2163
01:40:54,013 --> 01:40:55,652
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that is true. And a few people

2164
01:40:55,652 --> 01:40:57,013
Speaker 2: who are saying that, Matt, why don't you just get

2165
01:40:57,093 --> 01:40:59,812
Speaker 2: chipped if you love it so much? And that is

2166
01:40:59,893 --> 01:41:02,652
Speaker 2: the natural end to it, where you just had a chip.

2167
01:41:03,053 --> 01:41:05,092
Speaker 2: I talked to the sky. I interviewed this guy recently

2168
01:41:05,173 --> 01:41:07,932
Speaker 2: who was chipping all his people that worked in his factory,

2169
01:41:08,372 --> 01:41:10,452
Speaker 2: and so they could just walk in it was under

2170
01:41:10,452 --> 01:41:12,772
Speaker 2: the skin, and then everywhere they went and every computer

2171
01:41:12,853 --> 01:41:17,333
Speaker 2: would go just unlocked when they went near it and stuff,

2172
01:41:17,412 --> 01:41:20,972
Speaker 2: and he swore by chipping as employees. I don't think

2173
01:41:20,973 --> 01:41:23,812
Speaker 2: I would allow my look as much as I love

2174
01:41:23,893 --> 01:41:26,492
Speaker 2: in zed me as a company and used to ZB,

2175
01:41:26,652 --> 01:41:27,973
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd allow them to chip me.

2176
01:41:28,173 --> 01:41:29,652
Speaker 3: No, I don't know if I'd do it for ZB.

2177
01:41:29,893 --> 01:41:33,213
Speaker 3: I might do it for convenience of shopping. David, how

2178
01:41:33,253 --> 01:41:33,772
Speaker 3: are you mate?

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01:41:35,173 --> 01:41:38,293
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just got a couple of things. One as

2180
01:41:38,372 --> 01:41:41,932
Speaker 7: we fully going digital. I live in the Hawks pay

2181
01:41:42,013 --> 01:41:44,452
Speaker 7: and we had a CD moment one go. As everybody knows,

2182
01:41:45,213 --> 01:41:48,932
Speaker 7: we had no power for three weeks. People couldn't charge

2183
01:41:48,973 --> 01:41:53,492
Speaker 7: the APPLA. I was security in the street. Came down

2184
01:41:53,532 --> 01:41:56,973
Speaker 7: to get industry. So basically, when it came to me

2185
01:41:57,133 --> 01:41:59,692
Speaker 7: having generators, I had them, but not everybody has one.

2186
01:42:00,812 --> 01:42:03,253
Speaker 7: So that's the first thing. And the second thing is

2187
01:42:03,293 --> 01:42:08,213
Speaker 7: when you were talking earlier about driver's licenses. The driver's license,

2188
01:42:08,372 --> 01:42:13,612
Speaker 7: as I do believe, falls under the act that came

2189
01:42:13,652 --> 01:42:16,853
Speaker 7: out in two thousand and two called the Electronics Transactions

2190
01:42:16,893 --> 01:42:19,652
Speaker 7: at two thousand and two. And what that act did.

2191
01:42:19,933 --> 01:42:22,572
Speaker 7: It said that you weren't allowed to ignore the validity

2192
01:42:22,652 --> 01:42:25,532
Speaker 7: of something just because it was in an electronic format.

2193
01:42:26,452 --> 01:42:29,892
Speaker 7: That now has that act now has been incorporated into

2194
01:42:29,973 --> 01:42:32,532
Speaker 7: another Act and it's called the Business something about the Act.

2195
01:42:33,692 --> 01:42:36,572
Speaker 7: I can't remember the exact wording of that, but if

2196
01:42:36,652 --> 01:42:42,812
Speaker 7: you sat on the government website for Electronics Transactions at

2197
01:42:42,853 --> 01:42:44,692
Speaker 7: two thousand and two, I have no doubt it will

2198
01:42:44,732 --> 01:42:46,852
Speaker 7: come up, because that's how I leave it and changed.

2199
01:42:47,612 --> 01:42:50,213
Speaker 7: So the format has been in there for years, but

2200
01:42:50,692 --> 01:42:55,532
Speaker 7: nobody's really pushed it. I had a situation the four

2201
01:42:55,652 --> 01:42:58,852
Speaker 7: years ago where I was dealing with a government department

2202
01:42:59,053 --> 01:43:01,732
Speaker 7: and someone was being a bit of a bully, and

2203
01:43:02,372 --> 01:43:04,973
Speaker 7: I asked for some information and they asked for some

2204
01:43:05,133 --> 01:43:07,053
Speaker 7: information back, and I gave it to them in an

2205
01:43:07,173 --> 01:43:10,492
Speaker 7: electronic format. They said to me, you can't do that,

2206
01:43:10,692 --> 01:43:13,253
Speaker 7: we need the heart copy. I went back to them

2207
01:43:13,293 --> 01:43:15,293
Speaker 7: and quoted the section of the Act and under the

2208
01:43:15,333 --> 01:43:20,293
Speaker 7: Electronics Transactions Act, and the problem went away. So it

2209
01:43:20,452 --> 01:43:23,612
Speaker 7: leads me to put it applies to everybody, not just

2210
01:43:24,973 --> 01:43:29,533
Speaker 7: some people. And it also implies that the Act implies

2211
01:43:30,133 --> 01:43:32,932
Speaker 7: correctly to driver's licenses as well.

2212
01:43:33,253 --> 01:43:37,093
Speaker 2: So you're saying, David, that in line with that Act,

2213
01:43:37,452 --> 01:43:41,932
Speaker 2: then showing a picture of your driver's license should be enough.

2214
01:43:43,133 --> 01:43:46,492
Speaker 7: Yeah, it should be. And go one step further on that,

2215
01:43:46,692 --> 01:43:49,333
Speaker 7: I have actually been pulled up and have actually used

2216
01:43:49,372 --> 01:43:52,732
Speaker 7: my phone, and the opposite did scan my phone for

2217
01:43:52,853 --> 01:43:57,852
Speaker 7: the barcode and doing that sort of stuff. So, you know,

2218
01:43:58,372 --> 01:44:02,572
Speaker 7: so if you can't, if the law says you can't. Firstly,

2219
01:44:02,652 --> 01:44:05,133
Speaker 7: you can't contract out of the law. The second thing

2220
01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:08,293
Speaker 7: it says is that you're allowed to use an alex

2221
01:44:08,333 --> 01:44:11,732
Speaker 7: tronic format and it can't lose its validity just because

2222
01:44:11,772 --> 01:44:14,612
Speaker 7: it's an electronic format. And I remember that's the way

2223
01:44:14,652 --> 01:44:19,612
Speaker 7: it was written. Yeah, unless they've got some other validity reason,

2224
01:44:20,412 --> 01:44:23,253
Speaker 7: they can't do it just because it's an electronic format.

2225
01:44:23,532 --> 01:44:25,692
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for cool David. Very interesting.

2226
01:44:26,253 --> 01:44:28,652
Speaker 2: Do you remember when they used to say that, you know,

2227
01:44:28,692 --> 01:44:31,372
Speaker 2: when it came to signing contracts, it was okay if

2228
01:44:31,412 --> 01:44:33,692
Speaker 2: they came through on a fax machine, so if it

2229
01:44:33,812 --> 01:44:35,452
Speaker 2: was signed and then it printed out again. But I

2230
01:44:35,452 --> 01:44:39,173
Speaker 2: always thought that was meaningless. You know, what, what's the

2231
01:44:39,253 --> 01:44:43,013
Speaker 2: difference really if it's on a fax or you know,

2232
01:44:43,253 --> 01:44:45,652
Speaker 2: on an email. You know, it was like it was

2233
01:44:46,492 --> 01:44:48,812
Speaker 2: like because the facts were slightly older technology, it was

2234
01:44:48,933 --> 01:44:51,253
Speaker 2: somehow more legit. You know, that's kind of the Amish

2235
01:44:51,293 --> 01:44:53,412
Speaker 2: way of looking harmsh way of looking things. You decide

2236
01:44:53,933 --> 01:44:57,612
Speaker 2: a line in the sand where it's where technology is at,

2237
01:44:57,973 --> 01:44:59,772
Speaker 2: you know, And the kind of same with the fob

2238
01:45:00,013 --> 01:45:03,492
Speaker 2: and the app on your phone. The fob is just

2239
01:45:03,772 --> 01:45:07,933
Speaker 2: a piece of digital technology, whether it's existing as an

2240
01:45:07,933 --> 01:45:09,652
Speaker 2: app on your phone or not. It's just a matter

2241
01:45:09,692 --> 01:45:13,213
Speaker 2: of where you sit in time. But what David said

2242
01:45:13,213 --> 01:45:16,772
Speaker 2: about the you know, not having power in your phone,

2243
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:20,732
Speaker 2: not being able to charge in situations like Gabrielle and such,

2244
01:45:20,973 --> 01:45:23,053
Speaker 2: that's a really good point. So you definitely want to

2245
01:45:23,133 --> 01:45:25,892
Speaker 2: have that little ten at home that has your if

2246
01:45:25,933 --> 01:45:30,172
Speaker 2: we do go to digital passports and licenses and keys

2247
01:45:30,333 --> 01:45:31,893
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, you would want to

2248
01:45:31,973 --> 01:45:36,932
Speaker 2: have the little you know, solid, you know, impenetrable box

2249
01:45:37,013 --> 01:45:40,852
Speaker 2: at home that had all your actual original documentation for

2250
01:45:40,973 --> 01:45:42,572
Speaker 2: when you know the apocalypse.

2251
01:45:42,213 --> 01:45:44,173
Speaker 3: Its yeah, the little black box full of cash.

2252
01:45:44,333 --> 01:45:44,532
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2253
01:45:45,253 --> 01:45:47,652
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty see number call

2254
01:45:48,213 --> 01:45:50,213
Speaker 3: some great texts coming through. Will get to a few

2255
01:45:50,213 --> 01:45:51,333
Speaker 3: of those very shortly.

2256
01:45:51,772 --> 01:45:57,212
Speaker 1: It is nineteen to four, The big stories, the big issues,

2257
01:45:57,452 --> 01:45:59,772
Speaker 1: the big trends, and everything in between.

2258
01:46:00,133 --> 01:46:02,293
Speaker 4: Matt and Taylor Afternoons.

2259
01:46:01,732 --> 01:46:04,893
Speaker 1: With the Volvo XC ninety attention to detail and a

2260
01:46:04,973 --> 01:46:05,932
Speaker 1: commitment to comfort.

2261
01:46:06,053 --> 01:46:06,933
Speaker 4: News talks, there'd be.

2262
01:46:08,412 --> 01:46:12,253
Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is seventeen to four and we're talking about

2263
01:46:12,372 --> 01:46:14,932
Speaker 3: digital car keys? Are they the future going one hundred

2264
01:46:14,933 --> 01:46:15,452
Speaker 3: percent digital?

2265
01:46:15,492 --> 01:46:18,692
Speaker 2: As well? Having everything on your phone, your passport, your license, everything,

2266
01:46:18,772 --> 01:46:23,173
Speaker 2: your birth certificate, your car keys, the whole life in

2267
01:46:23,293 --> 01:46:26,012
Speaker 2: your phone. Do you support it? One hundred and eighty

2268
01:46:26,093 --> 01:46:28,692
Speaker 2: ten eighty. I was saying, if you did that, then

2269
01:46:28,772 --> 01:46:32,133
Speaker 2: you would want to have a special impenetrable box at

2270
01:46:32,213 --> 01:46:35,692
Speaker 2: home that has all your official documentation that you go

2271
01:46:35,772 --> 01:46:37,532
Speaker 2: to it if the crap hits the fan.

2272
01:46:37,732 --> 01:46:38,692
Speaker 21: Yep K.

2273
01:46:39,013 --> 01:46:40,893
Speaker 2: This text from Steve here. What's the point of a

2274
01:46:40,933 --> 01:46:43,013
Speaker 2: secure box in your home if you can't get into

2275
01:46:43,053 --> 01:46:46,772
Speaker 2: your home? Steve? Yeah, So exactly what I was a

2276
01:46:46,893 --> 01:46:48,973
Speaker 2: visioning is sort of a John Wick type situation. If

2277
01:46:49,013 --> 01:46:51,293
Speaker 2: you've seen that Fantastic movie when he decides to come

2278
01:46:51,293 --> 01:46:53,412
Speaker 2: out of retirement to kill a bunch of Russian gangsters.

2279
01:46:53,853 --> 01:46:57,333
Speaker 2: He takes to the floor of his garage with a

2280
01:46:57,412 --> 01:46:59,732
Speaker 2: sledgehammer and he opens the box. He's got all the

2281
01:46:59,812 --> 01:47:03,133
Speaker 2: different passports, he's got all the different money, he's got

2282
01:47:03,173 --> 01:47:06,093
Speaker 2: all the documentary documentation. He means, he's got all those

2283
01:47:06,133 --> 01:47:08,053
Speaker 2: gold coins he needs to run his thing and he's

2284
01:47:08,053 --> 01:47:09,772
Speaker 2: got all of the guns he does. Yea, I was

2285
01:47:09,812 --> 01:47:12,293
Speaker 2: imagining that kind of thing. Concrete it into the back

2286
01:47:12,372 --> 01:47:15,052
Speaker 2: of your house just for you know, it could be outside,

2287
01:47:15,293 --> 01:47:16,692
Speaker 2: just for when things go back.

2288
01:47:16,853 --> 01:47:19,053
Speaker 3: But aside from taking on Russian gangsters, have you got

2289
01:47:19,093 --> 01:47:20,852
Speaker 3: time to get the sled chammer out and just get

2290
01:47:20,893 --> 01:47:23,013
Speaker 3: through a concrete floor to get the stuff that you need?

2291
01:47:23,452 --> 01:47:25,532
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you've got to go pretty fast.

2292
01:47:25,572 --> 01:47:26,973
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've got an hour there just

2293
01:47:27,053 --> 01:47:28,372
Speaker 3: to get through that concrete floor.

2294
01:47:28,452 --> 01:47:30,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a lot to concrete. Your fob

2295
01:47:31,412 --> 01:47:34,972
Speaker 2: is your other option to get into your car. Mark

2296
01:47:35,732 --> 01:47:36,813
Speaker 2: your thoughts, Welcome.

2297
01:47:36,612 --> 01:47:40,213
Speaker 13: The show, Yeah, good after him, guys, enjoy your afternoon shows.

2298
01:47:40,253 --> 01:47:46,012
Speaker 13: I think listening, you know, yeah, I'm a bit old fashion,

2299
01:47:46,173 --> 01:47:48,173
Speaker 13: and I don't think you want to break concrete for

2300
01:47:48,333 --> 01:47:53,932
Speaker 13: a price of concrete these days, a lot of them.

2301
01:47:54,372 --> 01:47:55,612
Speaker 13: Every time you're going to do that, you're going to

2302
01:47:55,652 --> 01:47:59,293
Speaker 13: go through a lot of concrete, quite cool concrete rooms.

2303
01:48:02,133 --> 01:48:05,572
Speaker 13: Old fashion. I do believe that digital is going to

2304
01:48:05,612 --> 01:48:07,812
Speaker 13: be coming in the way, and I know someone mentioned

2305
01:48:08,452 --> 01:48:11,612
Speaker 13: barcades eventually. Who knows in the future whether you get

2306
01:48:11,612 --> 01:48:13,892
Speaker 13: a little barcade on under your wrest like you've seen

2307
01:48:13,933 --> 01:48:17,852
Speaker 13: on those movies and everything information and your your blood

2308
01:48:17,893 --> 01:48:20,692
Speaker 13: type and everything could be on that. But I think

2309
01:48:21,612 --> 01:48:23,333
Speaker 13: my dad, I've been I've learned up my dad. He

2310
01:48:23,372 --> 01:48:26,812
Speaker 13: always taught me to always make sure carry some cash

2311
01:48:26,893 --> 01:48:29,532
Speaker 13: with you and Becky, what's not a huge amount, that's

2312
01:48:29,652 --> 01:48:33,092
Speaker 13: enough to take a guess and get some food because

2313
01:48:34,333 --> 01:48:38,412
Speaker 13: electronics does go down, digital will go down, and you

2314
01:48:38,492 --> 01:48:40,012
Speaker 13: know who wants to be that guy in the fish

2315
01:48:40,053 --> 01:48:41,852
Speaker 13: and chip shop when the ed posco is there because

2316
01:48:41,893 --> 01:48:43,172
Speaker 13: you can't buy you and your sausages.

2317
01:48:43,973 --> 01:48:47,892
Speaker 9: So you know, I've got mini.

2318
01:48:50,293 --> 01:48:53,293
Speaker 2: Mentioning those onon sausages again Matty.

2319
01:48:53,933 --> 01:48:58,572
Speaker 13: But yeah, and also like traveling over says, you'll set up.

2320
01:48:58,572 --> 01:49:00,293
Speaker 13: Myself and my wife have done it. And we always

2321
01:49:00,333 --> 01:49:03,173
Speaker 13: made sure that we had a just a small, small

2322
01:49:03,652 --> 01:49:05,173
Speaker 13: little die that you can put in your back in

2323
01:49:05,213 --> 01:49:07,492
Speaker 13: their head. Everyone's numbers because if you lost your phone,

2324
01:49:08,053 --> 01:49:09,973
Speaker 13: you know you go and use a foreign in a

2325
01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:13,572
Speaker 13: country like Australia and all that. I only look. Only

2326
01:49:13,612 --> 01:49:16,013
Speaker 13: took me three years to following member my wife's cell

2327
01:49:16,053 --> 01:49:19,412
Speaker 13: phone number, so I can't remember everyone announce Yeah, so

2328
01:49:19,853 --> 01:49:21,772
Speaker 13: and that helps out. And we took cash as well.

2329
01:49:21,812 --> 01:49:24,772
Speaker 13: But I'm just a little bit wary about that, the

2330
01:49:24,853 --> 01:49:29,372
Speaker 13: whole digital phase, because, like you say, your cars and

2331
01:49:29,893 --> 01:49:32,253
Speaker 13: stuff like that, like you know, a previous call city

2332
01:49:32,253 --> 01:49:33,692
Speaker 13: you can un lock it and all that sort of stuff.

2333
01:49:34,532 --> 01:49:36,572
Speaker 13: In near future time, you know, be able to program

2334
01:49:36,652 --> 01:49:38,213
Speaker 13: the any thing to drive up and drive bay and

2335
01:49:38,253 --> 01:49:40,612
Speaker 13: back you out, you know. And do you really want

2336
01:49:40,612 --> 01:49:42,492
Speaker 13: to be sitting at your table and someone in India

2337
01:49:42,572 --> 01:49:44,093
Speaker 13: is trying to scan you and they lock into your

2338
01:49:44,133 --> 01:49:45,492
Speaker 13: car and drive it off on your way. You eat

2339
01:49:45,492 --> 01:49:46,892
Speaker 13: and your tea and you go, oh, there's.

2340
01:49:49,572 --> 01:49:52,972
Speaker 2: Especially if they decide to raid the restaurant your own well,

2341
01:49:53,333 --> 01:49:53,692
Speaker 2: and I.

2342
01:49:53,692 --> 01:49:56,772
Speaker 13: Think there's too lot infrastructure and is youll infrastructure like

2343
01:49:56,893 --> 01:49:58,293
Speaker 13: you know how miss spots in his yell on the

2344
01:49:58,372 --> 01:50:01,612
Speaker 13: straw pretty poor for cell phone reception. If you go

2345
01:50:01,772 --> 01:50:04,612
Speaker 13: somewhere either deep South or over on the coast or

2346
01:50:04,652 --> 01:50:07,173
Speaker 13: something like that, and you want to pay someone by banking,

2347
01:50:07,293 --> 01:50:10,012
Speaker 13: then the next minute in hiving, banking can't work because

2348
01:50:10,053 --> 01:50:12,253
Speaker 13: you don't have internet connection. So you've got to drive

2349
01:50:12,412 --> 01:50:14,173
Speaker 13: to the nearest town hoping that they've got a bank

2350
01:50:14,253 --> 01:50:16,932
Speaker 13: machine or a dairy that's got enough case to buy

2351
01:50:17,652 --> 01:50:20,012
Speaker 13: whatever hold you're going to buy. Off the West coast people.

2352
01:50:20,133 --> 01:50:20,933
Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.

2353
01:50:22,333 --> 01:50:25,412
Speaker 13: You know, you've still got to think think smart too,

2354
01:50:25,532 --> 01:50:28,053
Speaker 13: you know. So I know people don't like carrying a

2355
01:50:28,093 --> 01:50:30,452
Speaker 13: lot of cash, but you know you've got to carry

2356
01:50:30,532 --> 01:50:34,092
Speaker 13: something driver's license. I got caught up with an iPhoto

2357
01:50:34,173 --> 01:50:36,173
Speaker 13: snapped mind, thinking wif I lose it? And I went

2358
01:50:36,173 --> 01:50:40,053
Speaker 13: to the heya and do a vehicle changeover, and they

2359
01:50:40,093 --> 01:50:41,932
Speaker 13: asked for proof of idea, and I said, I shove

2360
01:50:42,013 --> 01:50:44,772
Speaker 13: this my wallet at home. I said, I have my

2361
01:50:44,853 --> 01:50:46,253
Speaker 13: phone and I got my license on it.

2362
01:50:46,293 --> 01:50:47,093
Speaker 9: They wouldn't accept it.

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01:50:47,333 --> 01:50:51,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the same thing to me. Thanks for that, Mark,

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01:50:51,692 --> 01:50:54,133
Speaker 2: And yeah, boy, I'm salivating thinking about a good old

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01:50:54,173 --> 01:50:55,333
Speaker 2: duned and onion sausage.

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01:50:55,652 --> 01:50:56,492
Speaker 3: Sounds good right now?

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01:50:56,973 --> 01:51:00,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing about the tattooed codes on your neck

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01:51:00,452 --> 01:51:02,892
Speaker 2: where everything goes and the chipping. This text is here,

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01:51:02,973 --> 01:51:06,452
Speaker 2: Chris is Matt Your reference to barcodes tattooed on people's

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01:51:06,532 --> 01:51:08,972
Speaker 2: heads also has a link to the of the beast

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01:51:09,093 --> 01:51:11,812
Speaker 2: referred to in the Book of Revelations, So it might

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01:51:11,933 --> 01:51:13,852
Speaker 2: really kick off some other stuff if we go too far.

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01:51:14,412 --> 01:51:14,612
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:51:15,093 --> 01:51:17,213
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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01:51:17,213 --> 01:51:20,333
Speaker 3: to cool hato, how are you this afternoon.

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01:51:21,452 --> 01:51:23,372
Speaker 24: Great guys, always enjoyable to listen to it.

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01:51:24,053 --> 01:51:24,892
Speaker 9: A couple of things.

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01:51:25,053 --> 01:51:28,453
Speaker 4: First one, they're using QR.

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01:51:28,333 --> 01:51:31,173
Speaker 24: Codes in a number of hospitals that you walk in

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01:51:31,333 --> 01:51:33,612
Speaker 24: and they can beat and they know who's been needed

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01:51:33,612 --> 01:51:36,372
Speaker 24: to know who you are, so they're being used around

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01:51:36,412 --> 01:51:40,772
Speaker 24: the world. Second thing, why not just put a little

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01:51:40,853 --> 01:51:44,093
Speaker 24: microchip in your arm and you can just walk up

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01:51:44,173 --> 01:51:46,572
Speaker 24: and do anything you want pay for it, which is

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01:51:46,652 --> 01:51:49,372
Speaker 24: going to make people go spastic. And then the other

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01:51:49,452 --> 01:51:53,412
Speaker 24: one would be that if you take a photo of

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01:51:53,572 --> 01:51:57,253
Speaker 24: your passport when you travel and your passport gets stolen

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01:51:58,013 --> 01:52:00,372
Speaker 24: or done, you can actually use that to get into

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01:52:00,412 --> 01:52:02,852
Speaker 24: a number of countries you can because you can show it.

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01:52:03,372 --> 01:52:03,892
Speaker 9: Yeah you can.

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01:52:04,372 --> 01:52:04,572
Speaker 12: Wow.

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01:52:05,013 --> 01:52:05,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's it.

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01:52:05,973 --> 01:52:09,772
Speaker 24: I Mean, we talked about the licenses, but if you

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01:52:09,933 --> 01:52:11,973
Speaker 24: use your passport and you take a photo of it,

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01:52:12,093 --> 01:52:15,973
Speaker 24: it's a really good way to have another form of

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01:52:16,093 --> 01:52:19,692
Speaker 24: wealth protection when you're traveling. Because I know someone who

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01:52:19,772 --> 01:52:21,172
Speaker 24: used it to get into Australia.

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01:52:21,652 --> 01:52:22,333
Speaker 2: I did not know that.

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01:52:22,532 --> 01:52:22,732
Speaker 19: Yeah.

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01:52:22,933 --> 01:52:25,732
Speaker 3: Interesting, I mean, just on the chip, hater, and we

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01:52:25,853 --> 01:52:27,973
Speaker 3: can all sit here and laugh and say, you know,

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01:52:28,173 --> 01:52:30,692
Speaker 3: that's that's just fiction. That's never going to happen. I

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01:52:30,772 --> 01:52:33,173
Speaker 3: can envision that being an option very soon.

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01:52:33,253 --> 01:52:35,093
Speaker 2: It's not that fix. Normal dog's got a chip in

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01:52:35,133 --> 01:52:35,692
Speaker 2: them exactly.

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01:52:38,452 --> 01:52:38,652
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:52:38,973 --> 01:52:40,772
Speaker 3: And for you, hato, is that a step too far?

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01:52:40,933 --> 01:52:44,093
Speaker 3: Because I can honestly sit here and say I would

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01:52:44,333 --> 01:52:46,572
Speaker 3: probably be okay with that if it's you know, for

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01:52:46,732 --> 01:52:48,933
Speaker 3: shopping at the grocery store. But I get that for

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01:52:48,973 --> 01:52:51,772
Speaker 3: a lot of people it would be a step too far.

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01:52:53,133 --> 01:52:55,532
Speaker 24: Correct, they would be and it's and it's a thought,

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01:52:55,572 --> 01:52:57,412
Speaker 24: and then it would obviously be your option. It's not

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01:52:57,492 --> 01:52:59,133
Speaker 24: going to be a thing that they're going to say

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01:52:59,173 --> 01:52:59,893
Speaker 24: you have to do it.

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01:53:00,013 --> 01:53:01,492
Speaker 4: But if you had the option, or if I.

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01:53:01,572 --> 01:53:04,812
Speaker 24: Had the option to put that chip in there, that

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01:53:04,933 --> 01:53:07,253
Speaker 24: would pay for my groceries, pay.

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01:53:07,133 --> 01:53:11,572
Speaker 4: For my restaurant, pay for I opened my car, opened

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01:53:11,612 --> 01:53:12,572
Speaker 4: my front door.

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01:53:12,812 --> 01:53:14,532
Speaker 21: And I had to do was put it across it.

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01:53:14,772 --> 01:53:17,572
Speaker 24: I'm fine, you can always And instead of having a

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01:53:17,692 --> 01:53:20,972
Speaker 24: concrete floor that you have to smash while it's safe.

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01:53:21,253 --> 01:53:23,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good, good, No, I don't know. I think

2425
01:53:23,333 --> 01:53:25,053
Speaker 2: the concrete floor that you smashed every time you need

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01:53:25,093 --> 01:53:27,173
Speaker 2: your original documents is smart.

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01:53:27,213 --> 01:53:27,372
Speaker 16: You know.

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01:53:27,772 --> 01:53:27,972
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:53:29,333 --> 01:53:32,452
Speaker 2: It was a great scene, dramatic, dramatic scene, and great

2430
01:53:32,572 --> 01:53:35,612
Speaker 2: editing that scene. Between that and the Russian gangster working

2431
01:53:35,652 --> 01:53:38,492
Speaker 2: out that his son had annoyed him, sold my car

2432
01:53:38,612 --> 01:53:40,973
Speaker 2: last year, went back into the Ford app on my

2433
01:53:41,053 --> 01:53:44,412
Speaker 2: phone recently to add my new car, and my other

2434
01:53:44,532 --> 01:53:46,772
Speaker 2: car was still on there. Could see exactly where it

2435
01:53:46,973 --> 01:53:50,093
Speaker 2: was and could still lock and unlock and start the car.

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01:53:50,812 --> 01:53:53,612
Speaker 2: That's a huge security risk. Luckily I'm a nice, honest

2437
01:53:53,652 --> 01:53:56,772
Speaker 2: person and deleted it. Yeah, that that is a that

2438
01:53:56,933 --> 01:53:58,652
Speaker 2: is I've heard of. There's been a few things like that.

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01:53:58,893 --> 01:54:01,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is terrifying. Right, We're going to wrap this

2440
01:54:01,933 --> 01:54:04,612
Speaker 3: up very shortly, but keen to hear from you. O

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01:54:05,412 --> 01:54:07,772
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2442
01:54:07,772 --> 01:54:08,133
Speaker 3: to call.

2443
01:54:08,853 --> 01:54:11,372
Speaker 2: Gone are the days where people can double d clutch

2444
01:54:11,572 --> 01:54:13,852
Speaker 2: and toe and heel at the same time. You might

2445
01:54:13,933 --> 01:54:15,173
Speaker 2: need peeps to explain this to you.

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01:54:15,612 --> 01:54:15,812
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2447
01:54:15,933 --> 01:54:19,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been explaining the whole clutch thing to my

2448
01:54:20,093 --> 01:54:23,133
Speaker 2: kids and this there's a double chundre there. I must say,

2449
01:54:23,133 --> 01:54:24,532
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there.

2450
01:54:24,572 --> 01:54:28,852
Speaker 1: Is eight to four the big stories, the big issues,

2451
01:54:29,093 --> 01:54:31,452
Speaker 1: the big trends, and everything in between.

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01:54:41,533 --> 01:54:43,573
Speaker 3: It is five to four and been having a great

2456
01:54:43,613 --> 01:54:46,932
Speaker 3: discussion about digital car keys. Should we go fully digital

2457
01:54:47,053 --> 01:54:48,253
Speaker 3: or are you a bit worried about that?

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01:54:48,533 --> 01:54:48,733
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2459
01:54:48,733 --> 01:54:51,253
Speaker 2: And it all started with talking about fobes as well

2460
01:54:51,293 --> 01:54:53,533
Speaker 2: and how expensive they are to get replaced. Few people

2461
01:54:53,533 --> 01:54:55,173
Speaker 2: have been texting through. You can go to mister Minute

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01:54:55,253 --> 01:54:57,733
Speaker 2: or one of those kiosks in the wall or of

2463
01:54:57,893 --> 01:55:00,573
Speaker 2: variety places and get the fib you have now cloned

2464
01:55:00,893 --> 01:55:02,772
Speaker 2: before you lose it, and that'll cost you abut one

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01:55:02,812 --> 01:55:04,092
Speaker 2: hundred hundred fifty dollars.

2466
01:55:04,053 --> 01:55:05,932
Speaker 3: Rather than seven hundred lat muggins over here.

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01:55:06,053 --> 01:55:07,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it might be a thing that's worth doing

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01:55:08,013 --> 01:55:10,653
Speaker 2: because the chances are you will lose it at some point. Yep,

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01:55:10,933 --> 01:55:12,053
Speaker 2: someone will lose your keys for you.

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01:55:12,253 --> 01:55:16,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly a couple of techs to wrap it all up, guys,

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01:55:16,413 --> 01:55:18,333
Speaker 3: I think a lot more people would lose their arms

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01:55:18,413 --> 01:55:22,293
Speaker 3: rather than their wallet. You could not imagine how many

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01:55:22,373 --> 01:55:27,013
Speaker 3: wallets get stolen when someone goes around. Yes, to go

2474
01:55:27,253 --> 01:55:30,053
Speaker 3: fully digital makes a whole lot of sense. I hate

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01:55:30,093 --> 01:55:31,893
Speaker 3: carrying around too much stuff when I go about my

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01:55:31,973 --> 01:55:33,812
Speaker 3: day to day. Having it all on your phone just

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01:55:33,893 --> 01:55:34,373
Speaker 3: makes sense.

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01:55:34,573 --> 01:55:37,013
Speaker 2: We had our new Zealand passports stolen at the very

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01:55:37,093 --> 01:55:40,213
Speaker 2: top of Norway beside Russian border. Photocopy or not, we

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01:55:40,293 --> 01:55:43,133
Speaker 2: could not even leave Norway until we had new passports

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01:55:43,133 --> 01:55:46,533
Speaker 2: from High Commission in London. Courier to us. No airline

2482
01:55:46,533 --> 01:55:49,972
Speaker 2: would touch you. That's on the back of a call

2483
01:55:50,013 --> 01:55:51,573
Speaker 2: it Hayden saying that you can use a picture of

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01:55:51,613 --> 01:55:54,333
Speaker 2: your passport into some countries. But yeah, I mean Russian border.

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01:55:54,413 --> 01:55:57,293
Speaker 2: That might be a different thing. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, full

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01:55:57,373 --> 01:55:59,533
Speaker 2: digital is great, but make sure you get all your

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01:55:59,573 --> 01:56:02,053
Speaker 2: original documents, some cash and some gold coins and a

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01:56:02,133 --> 01:56:04,293
Speaker 2: number of weapons and bury them under some concrete and

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01:56:04,333 --> 01:56:06,892
Speaker 2: your garage in case the crap goes down, John Wick style.

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01:56:06,933 --> 01:56:11,012
Speaker 2: That's my advice to you, all right. Anyway, Look, thanks

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01:56:11,053 --> 01:56:14,333
Speaker 2: for listening, and see us tomorrow afternoon for aternoons that

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01:56:14,413 --> 01:56:14,933
Speaker 2: are saying it.

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01:56:15,053 --> 01:56:16,213
Speaker 3: Is now afternoon.

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01:56:16,373 --> 01:56:18,653
Speaker 2: See you tomorrow afternoon for another edition of Man in

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01:56:18,693 --> 01:56:19,573
Speaker 2: twelve Afternoons.

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01:56:19,733 --> 01:56:21,333
Speaker 3: Absolutely, see you there.

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01:56:23,973 --> 01:56:24,733
Speaker 22: You cry.

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01:56:27,812 --> 01:56:30,253
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