1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Afternoon, nearly every single member of the common Heiro's gang 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: in the country has been charged by police. This is 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: the result of a three year investigation into money laundering, 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: drug importation and drug supply. Detective Superintended Greg Williams as 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: the director of the National Organized Crime Group. Ay, Greg, Hi, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: how are you very well? 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Thank you? 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Listen. How much of a blow is this to a 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: gang like this? 10 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, this is huge, you know. They it's a said, 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: we basically have focused on the hierarchy, so that's all 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: the leadership of the gang pass. Now they're in patch members. 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: So they're all patch members, all of them, so forty 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: one members and out of a total of ninety two. 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, this is a significant impact on what we 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: say as the organized criminal enterprises that they are engaging in. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Just because they've been charged, Greg, doesn't mean that they 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: can't carry on with their underground, underworld activities. So how 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: much of how much is it actually stopping what they're 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: able to do? 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's a complex question, isn't it. In the sense 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: that we tend to find these groups I use the 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: word relentless, you know they Yep, we're charging them, We're 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: putting people in prison and sense of that. But they 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: continue to be relentless but focus on the commentarias here 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: sort of follows quite a big piece of work done 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: across Australasia on the Commonaros and that's primarily because, as 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: we said, you know, they've made it very clear they 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: want to be the number one gang in the world. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: And probably the biggest dange that they have for us 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: is that big transnational link that they have across the 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: world where you know, they can have access sourcing significant 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: quantities of various drugs. So you know, it still disrupts 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: the ability for them to be able to bring that 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: into the country and run it through the systems and 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: structures they had set up across the country. 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: Listen, what about this military style training that they put 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of their memberstory, Who did they bring 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: in from overseas to do that? 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we've mentioned it, but we've the route here, 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: I explained to our listeners as this is not currently 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: a sort of a trial by media here, you know, 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: so that's all has to be proved in the court. 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: So we've got it very careful when we make the 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: release about what we're saying. So when we say we 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: can't really go into much more detail about that. We 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: can't because it really has to run through the court process. 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: But I'm sure the listeners understand what we mean by 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: that are the process and it's sort of just as 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: we sort of said earlier today, it's part of the 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: overall sort of message at the Contras given about being 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: the number one gang in the underworld in New Zealand, 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: and they intend to use violence to make sure that 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: they actually are the number one GAG. So it reflects 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: their thinking. That's probably the chilling point that comes out 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: of this. Greg. 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm loving the crackdown that you guys are doing at 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the moment on organized crime. Are you loving it as 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: much as I am? 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm very lucky I have a fairly passionate group of 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: people that work under me, and the beauty of the 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: national nice crime group we've got. You know, we're right 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: across the country now and that means that we can 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: really see and understand those national processes running, and that's 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: been a great highlight of probably this particular investigation of 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: linking that. Plus we've also really focused on building our 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: capability to be able to investigate really complex money launering 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: because it's critical to every investigation we do, so yeah, 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: it's an on I mean, look, this is this is 70 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: one of many awesome investigations that National Nized Crime Group 71 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: has done this year. You know, this is not our 72 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: only focus, but it just shows the breadth of the 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: work that our guys are capable of. 74 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Greg really appreciated, well done, Thank you so much. It's 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Greg Williams, the detective and superintended and director of the 76 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: National Organized Crime Group. For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.