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Speaker 1: Afternoon. The woman at the center of the jeffm mc

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Speaker 1: skimmings scandal has spoken out for the first time today

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Speaker 1: and called for further inquiries into police culture. And at

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Speaker 1: the same time, the Commissioner, Richard Chambers, has appeared at

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Speaker 1: Scrutiny Week in Parliament and told Parliament he doesn't think

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Speaker 1: that police have a culture issue. Commissioner, do you think

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Speaker 1: that there is a problem with police culture?

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Speaker 2: No, those that do fall below expectations. My expectation is

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Speaker 2: that we act on that and we deal with them.

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Speaker 1: Mark Mitchell is the policeman has stand with us now

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Speaker 1: home match, Hi here the how are you well? Thanks mate?

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Speaker 1: What do you think culture issue or no?

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Speaker 3: So I think that there was definitely, without a doubt,

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Speaker 3: clearly a culture issue with the previous police executive. But

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Speaker 3: I also agree with the Commissioner that if you see

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Speaker 3: someone that falls below the stands of the police, then

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Speaker 3: action needs to be taken on that. Without a doubt

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Speaker 3: you would have seen him as the incoming commissioner. He's

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Speaker 3: put guard rails back up around the use of devices,

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Speaker 3: doing audits to make sure that there's a really clear

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Speaker 3: message throughout the whole service. The standards and integrity and

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Speaker 3: those police values are inherently so important. But the one

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Speaker 3: thing that I would say is that, yes, we had

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Speaker 3: that previous police executive that departed from those values and

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Speaker 3: clearly had a lack of integrity, you also had four

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Speaker 3: very senior police officers that stood up with bravery and

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Speaker 3: stuck to those police values and showed enormous integrity. And

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Speaker 3: I think that the fifteen thousand people that we have

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Speaker 3: either sworn or non sworn around the country, they more

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Speaker 3: likely reflect those values than the values of that police executive.

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Speaker 1: So that's a noe to another inquiry.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, we don't see the need for that

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Speaker 3: because the IPCA report was very clear, it had lots

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Speaker 3: of detail in it. That's given the police of roadmap

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Speaker 3: to work off in terms of their own internal work

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Speaker 3: and turn inquiries investigations. And we've been very clear from

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Speaker 3: government that we're going to put a Inspector General in place,

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Speaker 3: and we think that that's going to be a really

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Speaker 3: strong check and balance to try and give the public

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Speaker 3: the confidence they need, and we're working hard to do

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Speaker 3: that that we're taking the action required that we don't

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Speaker 3: have that happen again in our country.

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Speaker 1: Is it the case that all senior cops are now

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Speaker 1: having their Internet usage audited.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's guardrails in place now around there's lots of

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Speaker 3: what that's going on. Absolutely, the Commissioner and the senior

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Speaker 3: team are making sure that there's a health check done

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Speaker 3: around standards and integrity.

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Speaker 1: Why only the senior cops are not all police?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know if it's all senior police that

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Speaker 3: is very operational. You have does to come from that.

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Speaker 3: But I know that there's been guardrails put back in

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Speaker 3: place around the use of police devices.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff match, Thank you very much as always, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: Police Minister.

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