1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson with us. Hello are 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: you too, Good morning. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: To Julie. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Jenny. 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, big five, thank you but scary a yeah. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Have you got a celebration planned? 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: Well, I'm very lucky. I've got a mallad out of 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: Parliament tonight, so I'm going with my mum and my 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: dad and my husband and kids to local restaurant and 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: Patoni for a nice family dinner Roochie, very nice Indian 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: place for dinner. But then I'm having a bit of 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: a birthday besh with mate at the Patoni Rugby club 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: rooms over the weekends. 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: Nice. No kids allowed of that one. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: I suppose, oh my kids will make it in the air, 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: but probably it'd be more adult to that one. That 17 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: will be a couple of years and a band so 18 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: we have a bit of a dance, So a fun 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: night hopefully. 20 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I've been told I've been told by somebody on the 21 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: text I'm not allowed to tell you that you look 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: awesome at fifty. 23 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: Jenny, Thank you very much, audience. 24 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: They told me off because I said she is a 25 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: hot babe, and they said, don't tell Ginny that she 26 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: is a hot babe. That's not a nice thing to 27 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: do to a woman. But I feel like it is 28 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Ginny that'll fill your car. I'm fine with that, totally 29 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: okay with that now, Mitch. 30 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Have youde the PC brigades out by the way, By 31 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: the way, congratulations six months, you know that is we're celebrated. 32 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, mate. 33 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: I thought Glenn has been a bit tough on it there, 34 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: but I just note that it seemed to stage. I 35 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: was an event last year where he was front row 36 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: for his daughter who was a very very talented musician, 37 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: and you couldn't see a prouder dad. 38 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: So like likes to pretend. 39 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, and that first. 40 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: Six months is the hardest off and it's when that's 41 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: not getting sleep and that sort of stuff. So I 42 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: think that's a good milestone to get. 43 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh Sam says. Oh Sam Sam says, is it a 44 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: thing to celebrate the fact that his dog Storm has 45 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: made it to sixteen weeks? 46 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 47 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's absolutely sixteen weeks of Storm. And 48 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: by the way, let's not forget Barry's doing his peak 49 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: on this as well. 50 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Barry's doing everything. When you were talking about it was 51 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: eugen he just said something about lack of sleep I 52 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't know anything about that. That's 53 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: that's all maternity leave over there. They sleep in a 54 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: different room or have been. I don't know what's going 55 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: on there. Listen, Mitch, anything down to Nelson Tasman to 56 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: check out how it's going down there. 57 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I have you. I've been down there three times. 58 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: I've been hit very hard. Obviously, we've all seen that 59 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: they just had a rolling wall of weather, even before 60 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: we sort of wedded to the orange and reds, that 61 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: had weather for weeks and it meant that the ground 62 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: just couldn't absorb water anymore, and so you know, messive 63 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: issues around you know, surface flooding. But also on top 64 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: of that heavy heavy rain and the river's breaking as well. 65 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Is the slash a problem? 66 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: So I have seen that there is definitely slash on 67 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: the ground. I mean, it's all relevant. I remember being 68 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: over in Gabriel, you know, Opra, the day after Gabriel 69 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: came through, and there's just the slash was just mind 70 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: boggling in terms of the amount of it that was 71 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: there and had to be dealt with. But there is definitely, 72 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: without a doubt, we got forestry, You've got a bit 73 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: of slash, So there are are some issues here around 74 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: cleaning up with a slash as well. 75 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Ginny, do you reckon that? David Seymour really didn't 76 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: know that he wasn't supposed to be the one that 77 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: wrote to the UN. 78 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: Of course he knew that, he said, a pretty prime minister. 79 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: He's been in politics a long time, so I'm sure 80 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: he was aware of that. But yeah, it's interesting that 81 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: in the regulatory standards that's two things in a week 82 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: which him and Winston is barking on. So it'll be 83 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: interesting to see what the actual letter that gets officially 84 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: sent looks like and how is it different. 85 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should will be great. It'll be a great letter. 86 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: What makes you so confident? 87 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: Match, We'll have a picture from David. I'm David, and 88 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: this is my picture of how you should deal with 89 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: Marty mt'ch. 90 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Why are you so confident it's going to be. 91 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: I've had my own personal experiences with the UN, and 92 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: so I'm probably not the best person to talk about that. 93 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: When I was overseas in the Middle East for ten years, 94 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: often the UN would call up and so we need 95 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: some help, And it's because they hadn't had the focus 96 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: on the idea is, for example, Mogadishu in their head 97 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: frustrated cargo there. So I'm not I'm not going to 98 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: get into the detail on it. I just think that 99 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: the Foreign Minister is definitely the right person to respond. 100 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: He will respond to deputy the Deputy Promise who has 101 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: got his own clear views on ited as well, and 102 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure the leader will reflect all. 103 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: Of that Christopher Lax and Lisa Rain. The man though 104 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: he's the Prime minister, he should sort this out. These 105 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: guys are making him, are they. 106 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: Not at all? Not at all? 107 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: Well, the opposite, you know, like on the government. If 108 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: a cabinet minister was you know, writing official blitters without 109 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: being signed off and agreed to by cabinet, it's pretty serious. 110 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: It seems like they get away with a whole lot 111 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: more than others would. 112 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: I completely totally refute. I think that you've got three 113 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: outstanding leaders. You look at them, they know they're not 114 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: at all, not at all in this government is actually 115 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: I love with you, discoverment. This is the second second 116 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: go round for me and and we've got great relations 117 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: through all of the parties. We're all focused on what 118 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: we need to be doing and delivering for the country 119 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: and you've got three passionate, smart leaders that are working 120 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: together to do that. 121 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: Mitch, I think Ginny's got a point here. I mean, 122 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: we can all see why David. It doesn't take a 123 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: rocket scientist to figure out that he wrote the letter 124 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: because he wanted to be able to be seen to 125 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: be the one giving the una well deserved slap down. 126 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: And that's fine when you're in opposition, but when you're 127 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: actually in government it does start to look a little 128 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: bit like the thing is not well. I don't know, 129 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: it's a little ill disciplined, don't you think. 130 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think that I'm not going to speculate at 131 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: all in terms of what David has written and what 132 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: he's putting forward. But obviously it was decided. I was 133 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: in their cabinet this week, but it was there was 134 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: a discussion. It was decided that Winston, rightly so was 135 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: the one that received the letter. He is the foreign 136 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: Minister and he'll respond to it, and it's as simple 137 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: as that. 138 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Has he got a point, though, Ginny has David actually 139 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: got a point that they need to pull their head 140 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: and if they don't know what they're talking about, well. 141 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: The point of fact, when I was in Cabnet, if 142 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 3: another minister had written a letter and someone else AIA 143 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: and sent it, there would be hell to pay for it. 144 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: There's a serious problem, Like there would be discipline happening 145 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: within Cabnet if that, and there would be talks worth 146 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: the PM or chief of staff because it's breaking discipline. 147 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: And it seems like there's a whole new set of 148 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: rules they just apply to Winston and David. 149 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: It's very hard to have the same It's very hard 150 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: to have the same set of rules if you're dealing 151 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: with different parties. Ginny, are you going to win the 152 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: by election? 153 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: We're aiming to. Yeah, we're doing everything. 154 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: That's not that doesn't sound confident. Are you going to 155 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: win it? 156 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: Yes, we are. I mean, you don't want to be 157 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: too light cocky, you know, I don't think he is 158 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: like being like but you know, Penny is an excellent candidate. 159 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: He is He's had a lot of experience, he's a 160 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: strong campaigner, he's excellent speaking to a room full of people. 161 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: So look, I have a lot of confidence that he's 162 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: the right guy to do it, and it's going to 163 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: be really exciting. 164 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Mitch, I know you don't want to back 165 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: either of these horses because they're not your horse. But 166 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: what do you reckon? Who do you reckon is actually 167 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: going to take this out? 168 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean on motes with Penny and a being for 169 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: a while. So you know, I just think it will 170 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: be an interesting competition. I think, you know, at the moment, 171 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: the thing they should be focused on is getting their 172 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: audits and getting their fears of order. Well, yeah in 173 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: labor as well, labor as well, how do you focus 174 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: on there? 175 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: I think we did get ours in, it's just the 176 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 3: auditor thing. The next thing which is coming. 177 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened to? What happened to? 178 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: I understand that there's a new system in place, and 179 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: so that's helpings up a bit. But it's what they've 180 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: discussed it with with the Electoral Commission and these agreement 181 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: there to get it. 182 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: It's not that flesh if you can't. 183 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: Think, is not I think Nationals also had some issues. 184 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: You Mark, I think is pretty good. But if you 185 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: want to go in the country, you've got to go 186 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: in yourself first. 187 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Now, now, Jenny, it's your birthday, so I don't want 188 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: to start. 189 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: I want to go to do I do I get 190 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: freeheads mark because it is true. 191 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I already let you get away with not answering the 192 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: u N question. Are you going to back up? You're 193 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: going to back up what National has done here? No, 194 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: say that a game. What are you going to back 195 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: up what you just said about National that they've had 196 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: some issues? 197 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? I was going to find it, but I'm on 198 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: my phone, but I have had g p T. 199 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: While you're talking to come out. 200 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: You can't come out and say, hey, you got this 201 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: is not actually have the facts that you or No, 202 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: we're literal away with it. 203 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it is. 204 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: I'll give you the link later here there is also. 205 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I will when you flick me the link, I 206 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: will make sure that I tell everybody who now wants 207 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: to know about this. 208 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: Do you know? 209 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: To you, Mitch, listen, what happened to the satellite because 210 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Judith has been weird about it? 211 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: Did you know? 212 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? I probably don't be as much as you. They 213 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: lost contact with What I do understand though, is that 214 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: it says she's been There has been benefits of the 215 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: country without doubt in terms of the amount of data 216 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: it's been collected, and there's also investment into Auckland university 217 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that they've got their own control set 218 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: to now that's able to monitor their a satellite that 219 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: is up there. So there were definitely some upsides and 220 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: benefits to it. But yeah, I mean, all I know 221 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: is that they've lost contact with that satellit. 222 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: What Jenny, Why is she being weird about it? Because 223 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I didn't I wouldn't have even cared about this, but 224 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: then when she got weird about it, now I care 225 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: about it. 226 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: Well, what's even weird is when they ask christ for 227 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: lux and he said, labor did it like we're up 228 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: in space and kind of kicked it or something. 229 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: That's a good idea we could see space. 230 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's. 231 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: Yes, we funded it, Yes we funded it, but it 232 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: was launched in that under under this government. But it's 233 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: not an area where you need to blame people. I mean, 234 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: we know space is a high risk environment, but it's 235 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: really important that we can capture any lessons learned and 236 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: openly and honestly and say you know, okay, this went wrong, 237 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: let's not do it again. That's an area where we 238 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: want to do some more investigations. And so I don't 239 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: understand why why Judith, Because she's really excited about being 240 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: the Minister for Space and talking that out and this 241 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: is something that people want to know a bit more about. 242 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: So I don't understand why she's not responding. 243 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: To Well, I think I think she has. She has responded. 244 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: I think the point that she made is that was 245 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 2: signed up. This was a labor satellite, so maybe it 246 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: started off somewhere to fix its audits and get it. 247 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: Before you go. So tell me so. So you weren't 248 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: in cabinet on Monday, Mitch, but did anybody tell you 249 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: about the massive showdown between Shane Jones and Tama Pautucker 250 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: over the lizards? 251 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: The lizards? Yeah, I want to know, what's a guy. 252 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: Tell us not at all? Are they work really well together, 253 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: those guys? But yeah, absolutely, And I think it's landed 254 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: in a pretty good place, hasn't it. 255 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, well there was a showdown anyway. Look, 256 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'll tell. 257 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: You what change Change trying to fix the economic vandalism 258 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: that was done by the previous government. And that's a 259 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: hard job. But he's definitely getting there. 260 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, the doc's doing a pretty good job of it. Okay. Anyway, 261 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: So Jenny, you're gonna go away you're gonna get me 262 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: the link about what National has done. Mitchig, go away, 263 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: call the other members of cabinet, find out what happened 264 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: at the showdown, and give me a tinkle and then 265 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: we can talk about it. 266 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 267 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 268 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.