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Speaker 1: So here's another tick in the old Canterbury box moves

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Speaker 1: on for horticulture and more companies looking to move south.

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Speaker 1: And they like the cheaper land, they like the reliable water,

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Speaker 1: increasing reports of more apples, more grapes, pack houses, processing

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Speaker 1: factories anyway. Vegetables New Zealand chair John Murphy, he's among

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Speaker 1: those who've actually made the move in John's with us,

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Speaker 1: John Morning wen He Mike, so you move from Marlborough.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did. We started growing some garlic and shalots

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Speaker 2: down there about ten years ago and it hasn't all

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Speaker 2: been sunshine on the lollipops, but we've grown some good

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Speaker 2: crop down Do you.

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Speaker 1: Feel the vibe? Is there a thing on in Canterbury

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Speaker 1: in terms of land and water and all of those

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Speaker 1: sort of decisions you have to make.

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Speaker 2: O Look, wherever we have good land and good water available,

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Speaker 2: it certainly increases our options. So that's a really good thing.

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Speaker 2: But what I would say is it's not an extremely

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Speaker 2: simple process either. You can't just go from a proven

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Speaker 2: area where we grow so beautiful greens and hotta fenua

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Speaker 2: or something like that and moving to another area without

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Speaker 2: some complexity involved.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And is that regulatory or is it logistical, A.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of both, a little bit of all of

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Speaker 2: the above. So it's really good that the current government

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Speaker 2: is prioritizing water schemes. That's really important to us. What

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Speaker 2: I would say is that's needed in current areas as

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Speaker 2: well as ones where there's potential for growth as well.

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Speaker 2: But there's not much point in that if you don't

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Speaker 2: sort the other side of the equation as well, which

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Speaker 2: is permitted activity. So we need a national environmental standard,

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Speaker 2: as I've talked to you about before. If we get

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Speaker 2: those things in place, then there's actually really good opportunities

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 1: Good are people cognizant of all of that and will

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Speaker 1: eventually get around to doing something about it or not?

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Speaker 2: I think so? I think so. We're working pretty hard

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Speaker 2: on that. But it's great to see things like rocket

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Speaker 2: apples being grown in South South Canterbury. That's really really

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Speaker 2: positive and will help us get to that doubling of

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Speaker 2: the export values. But also new opportunities mean that we

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Speaker 2: can keep supplying fresh, healthy vegetaborced in New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: feeding the country, So that's fantastic good.

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Speaker 1: I note that Hoart, New Zealand we started a campaign

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Speaker 1: this week for people to support local. I find it

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Speaker 1: hard to believe that people don't support local. Wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: want to support local fruit and vegetables.

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Speaker 2: Well say, I certainly would. And the reality is that

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Speaker 2: precious best, the stuff that comes from here as world

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Speaker 2: class and we just want people to add one more

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Speaker 2: to their dishes as much as they can.

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Speaker 1: What about the Canterbory story they send to lack of

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Speaker 1: pack houses, stuff like that. If you start growing, will

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Speaker 1: those infrastructural things come, do you think? Look?

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Speaker 2: Over time? I think they will. But I think that

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Speaker 2: just points to the fact that we need a national approach.

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Speaker 2: We need to be smart about these things. And quite

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Speaker 2: often what you see is there's good land available and

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Speaker 2: the people that know about that land are the people

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Speaker 2: that are farmed there for a while. So growers know

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Speaker 2: their own patch very very well. People that grow specific

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Speaker 2: products that haven't been grown in those areas know the products.

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Speaker 2: So about marrying the two together.

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Speaker 1: Good. So good to catch up with you. Many appreciate

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Speaker 1: it very much. John Murphy Vegetables, New Zealand chair made

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Speaker 1: the move from Marlble Canterbury. Canterbury is going

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